There is no one on this earth I would shake & cry over - let alone a digiscrap designer. This makes me feel good since I always thought I had no life - but obviously there are those who have even less of one than I do!
If you applied to the call knowing her CT was going to choose (which she did disclose), then you have no reason to bitch. At. All.
I agree with the PP that the ones chosen are all good scrappers. Except for one in my eyes, too, but she's a huge SSD kiss ass, so I wasn't surprised to see her on the list.
It would be great if someone could actually fill us in on what was said, though.
There was one that applied that went after KCB and her team. It was either at SSD or on KCB's fan page but it got deleted. She got really nasty to the CT as a whole for not picking her. I know she CT'd for the MSS blog before it went to a store. I think her name had Scraps in it or something.
I wouldn't have applied to that team in the first place. You MUST use every new release, you MUST scrap 4 pages a month, and they MUST be done between Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. Just to get the kit for free? I'll pass.
I'm the OP. Kendall is definitely the one I was thinking of. I thought there were far better scrappers, many on fewer teams, but everyone looks for something different.
As far as the possible "scraps" person, I'm not familiar with who blogs for MSS. Looking at the application thread, there was a Rachels Scraps whose gallery is weak and I would have passed right on by.
There was also a tjscraps that applied. I think she's an OK scrapper, but she's on a lot of busy teams. I wouldn't have chosen her.
Her name at SSD is LauraMarie. She's on 9 teams already, almost all of them at Scrap Orchard. If she did that, I'd kick her off my team quicker than shit. That is awful.
She's not even an amazing scrapper - average. I would have passed her over, too, given far more talented scrappers in that thread.
Why is that sad? Better to have an active in the forum, if ordinary, scrapper than one who is better but doesn't participate in anything.
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For my team, I'd pick the talented scrapper over the half-assed scrapper/forum groupie every single time. I guess it's all about what is important to you in a creative team member.
LauraMarie sounds like a real piece of work! She may have dodged a bullet with her current with her teams, but I'm guessing there are a few designers who will avoid her after her crazy temper tantrum. I know I will.
There were quite a few people pouting on Facebook because of that call yesterday.
For my team, I'd pick the talented scrapper over the half-assed scrapper/forum groupie every single time. I guess it's all about what is important to you in a creative team member. ----
Yep, the person who gets my name out there. No good having a talented scrapper if they don't promote you. Been there, had that.
The half-assed scrapper isn't doing anything to make your work sell. In fact, they may do more harm than good. If I see an ugly page, I'm not going to click on it to see if the kit was cute.
If you are getting all butt hurt because you got turned down for a CT, you probably shouldn't be applying in the first place. Disappointed, yes. Enraged and/or devastated, no.
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Says who? Says you? There's a big difference between a half assed scrapper and an ordinary scrapper. If the ordinary scraper is active and promoting you, then they are making your work sell.
They will regret it because wherever Trixie Craps goes you can bet she will bring trouble. That girl whines and throws temper tantrums the instant someone dares to disagree with her! She is a miserable person.
I didn't follow much but what happened to Pickleberry Pop? The owner was Annette, and I thought she was a well respected owner with a store doing very well, then Carolyn seemed to have taken over, I thought mostly as an admin, to help Annette, but now, it is yet another owner, and Carolyn is opening her own store.
She got hacked by someone who knew she had applied, but not gotten, for the CT call? So, that is implying that someone hacked her specifically for that purpose?
You can't be serious? Who the hell would believe that nonsense? Hacked. That's amazing. I definitely would disassociate myself with her ASAP. What a headcase.
I would have a hell of a lot more respect for Laura Marie if she admitted it and stood by what she said. Now, no respect whatsoever. Not that I had much anyway, but I try to be kind to the mentally crazy.
I didn't follow much but what happened to Pickleberry Pop? The owner was Annette, and I thought she was a well respected owner with a store doing very well, then Carolyn seemed to have taken over, I thought mostly as an admin, to help Annette, but now, it is yet another owner, and Carolyn is opening her own store.
Anyone has a summary of what has been going on?
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Yeah, Carolyn bought it from Annette a few years ago and then kind of ran her designer base in to the ground by acting like such a bitch to too many people. I'm guessing most of their designers are glad to see her gone. The new owner seems to be making some changes that at least appear to be an effort to bring the store back up. They have some designers that aren't that good but they also have some designers that are quite good. Mye and Tracy probably have pretty good sales bases to offer (for whatever reason I don't understand), but they may bring drama with them too. They tend to tattle on each other and have to try and out-do each other a lot. Hopefully the new owner is able to put her foot down and not put up with their crap. And I also heard from someone who's on both of their CT's that they are both dropping some of their other stores for PBP. I would guess PBP wouldn't have taken them if they kept that many others. PBP may not be a top-tier store, but they are sure as hell better than SBB and MScraps. They've already weeded out a few of the loser designers, so that's a good sign. I haven't hung out there a lot, but when I have, there doesn't seem to be the cattiness and drama going on there that goes on at SSD, SO, and a few others. From what I've heard, the new owner is more professional and reasonable than many other store ownders, so who knows. She can't be any worse than Carolyn, Stacy or Maya and a few others who treat everyone like enemies, choose favorites and hold grudges. Carolyn was famous for that. It's probably best she has her own store now cuz she can't get along with anyone else anyway. It'll be interesting to see how they do the next few months. I've actually wondered about trying to get on there because even though they aren't a TOP store, they also don't seem to be involved in as much drama as some other places. Of course, I could be wrong, but one of my designer friends is at PBP and she tells me all the time that she likes it there. No drama amongst designers and CT's and her sales are better there than her stores at GP, SBB, FPG and MM. So maybe there's something to be said for having a lower profile but keeping your nose to the grindstone. All I know is that I'm sick to death of having to deal with some of the snotty-ass owners I've dealt with in the past. And I'm getting tired of some people acting like SO or SSD or SBG is THE only place to be. And no, I'm not bitter because I've been turned down at any of those stores. I'll admit I'm too new to be considered a great designer, but I think I'm definitely middle-tier and working my way up. Up to "where" is the question.
Yes, I know who the new owner is and I have respected her as a designer for a long time. I was excited when I found out she was taking over. She IS very professional and fair, but TRUST me, she will NOT put up with crap.
I know we've talked before about the "amazing page" commenters at DST that have 10k+ posts each. I was just wondering WHY they do that? Is it some kind of contest? Do they really enjoy saying "pretty page" 4,000 times? Seems odd to me.
Laura getting hacked is almost as good as the person who accidentally posted a very personal inbox message on her wall and didn't know how to delete it, despite very detailed instructions from a friend. The person still couldn't do it and decided it was because she was on a Mac, and Facebook had to work different on a Mac!
User error is user error, making up stupid excuses just makes you look stupid.
the convo about hoohoos is fun? How old are you? I bet you watch Housewives, don't you? ----
WTF are you talking about? The comment was in response to "Looks like the classy Laura Marie Scraps is in the house". The comment before that one was about Ho Hos. There's a difference between vaginas and chocolate cake snacks. Seems like the only one obsessed with 'hoohoos', as you so maturely put it, is you.
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I'm obsessed with them because I mentioned them once, and then only because I mistyped something, of which I have no clue in the first place. What the heck are hohos? Forgive me.
Blogger has changed their settings/format. Unless the blog owner contacts Blogger or looks up how to change it back to how it was, then it's going to continue to not have the numbers and be messed up.
When I had my last CT Call, I had my girls look over the applicants that I chose for my short list and then told me who they thought would work best on OUR team. Yes... OUR team. Even though I'm the designer, my girls are a very valuable resource to me. They promote me, work with each and every kit. They always meet deadlines and they totally rock. In order to get to that point, I had to let a lot of slackers go. And in this ct world, a lot of the ct girls know each other from other teams and they know who has been problems in the past for other teams. That's why I trust my team to help me choose.
With all of that being said, I had the final say on who came to the team. KCB should have done the same and then maybe she wouldn't have to deal with this crappy response. It's your team... take responsibility for it.
It doesn't matter how you run your team, etc. Although, I do agree that asking your CT about applicants is definitely a good idea because they do know who the slackers are and who makes LOs, etc.
KCB posted that her CT would be choosing up front for all to see. If you're going to apply under those conditions, then why bitch about it when you weren't chosen? It's not like she mislead anyone at all.
It's SSD. It's KCB. Of COURSE they're going to choose their favorite people. It's how it's done in high school, people. But if you applied, you have no reason to call anyone a "coward."
The only coward in this drama is Laura Marie for stating she had someone hack her account. That is pathetic and sad. But, people have stood by her (stupid people).
I don't see any change either. But I guess the people who can't see past the first 200 comments are those who click on the number of comments rather than the post title to read all the comments. They don't have the "newer" or "newest" links to click on. I feel sorry for them but since they can't see the newest comment anyway, there's nothing else we can do to help. *shrug*
I just checked and you guys are absolutely right abut the commenters at DST- all they know how to do is say _______page (nice, pretty, etc) I praise and I at least try to say something constructive.
Instead of clicking on the comment numbers, click on the post title (New Space for 2012) and then you'll get to a page that has the newer and older post links.
I don't see any change either. But I guess the people who can't see past the first 200 comments are those who click on the number of comments rather than the post title to read all the comments. They don't have the "newer" or "newest" links to click on. I feel sorry for them but since they can't see the newest comment anyway, there's nothing else we can do to help. *shrug*
Clicking on the new space didn't work for me as it would only take me to the first page and no page numbers as the bottom. I finally made a post and then the numbers showed back up so there is obviously a glitch or the blog owner has to update but I can once again see page numbers at the bottom.
Is it legal to sell kits that contain decoupage images sourced online? Wouldn't the image have to be in the public domain to be used?
I would greatly appreciate some advice here, I was about to buy a kit I really like but when I looked closely I recognised at least 3 images and sure enough, I found them online for sale in decoupage stores and being shared on foreign websites.
Email the decoupage store and wait to see what they'll do about it. Writing them shouldn't cost you more time than posting here. I'm not being mean or trying to put you down but I think that's the only way to be certain. The designer could have obtained the right to sell the images although I really don't think that is the case.
I did exactly that after posting here, I've even asked them if the image is in the public domain. Not sure if they'll share that information or not, they may not even get back to me.
Is there a resource on the net to check 'common' PD images? I know I've seen these types of images a bunch of times in the last 6 years.
If it turns out the images are copyrighted, should I just let it go? I was initially checking for my own benefit as I'm often skeptical about image sources and don't want to land myself in trouble. I don't want to get the designer in trouble, I'm quite sure over 50% of her kits use these images, but at the same time, it could have consequences for everyone who buys and uses her kits, couldn't it?
Has the designer been using this kind of images for long or just this particular kit? Is she one of the better selling designers in her store? I ask because that might play a part in how the scrap store react to it. I think it's your right as a potential customer to "innocently" write the store to ask if they know about the images and if it's okay for you to buy and use the kit. It might be interesting to see how they'll respond. If the designer is really in the right, she has nothing to worry about.
In answer to your questions: I'd say majority of her kits use these images and I think the store is relatively new though I can't say for sure. I believe the designer is quite popular, I could be wrong though.
I feel hesitant to contact the store owner until I know if the images are copyrighted or not.
Thanks for the advice, I'll wait to hear back from the decoupage store.
Just out of curiosity, what consequences do you think a scrapper could face for using copyrighted images? If you're just using the images for your own personal use, I don't think you need to worry if the images are copyrighted or not. Of course if you don't want to support piracy that's totally understandable, but you mentioned landing yourself in trouble and I don't understand how that would happen. I would think if there was any trouble, it would fall on the designer's shoulders, not yours. (and please don't call me an idiot for not fully studying copyright law, I'm not a designer so I didn't think it applied to me)
I think I understand where the OP is coming from. I didn't think she's gonna be in a real trouble with the law or anything but to make layouts you don't have a complete trust that they won't attract wrong kind of attention when posting in galleries or personal blog is troubling enough for a lot of people. Me for one. I used to CT for some designers who will never do this. But if this kind of thing happens and the products have to be removed from stores, the layouts made with such products will likely be asked to be taken down as well. I will probably be really pissed since the layouts are mine and I shouldn't have to feel embarrassed showing them.
Sahlin Studio has done this with Mickey Mouse related stuff ( ears, Epcot train etc etc) but she only offered it as add-ons to her Disney inspired kits for free. I think it's ok, as your not making money off of them. Which is probally why Paula has them as a freebie.
No. It sharing someone else's images is not ok. Even if are not making money off of it.
I don't for a second believe that any designer does not know that. Try buying something from Paula or Sahlin's store and give it away as freebies. Claim that it's ok since you aren't making any money off it and see if Paula or Sahlin come screaming at you about how you are a pirate for sharing their designs.
Sharing copyrighted or trademarked items for free is SO not ok. It is still distributing and it is potentially negatively affecting the income of the copyright holder. It is NEVER ok to share copyrighted items, free or paid for. It is still piracy!
That is like saying it is ok to share software because it is free. Ah, that is major NO!
According to Wikipedia: "Copyright infringement is the unauthorized or prohibited use of works under copyright, infringing the copyright holder's exclusive rights, such as the right to reproduce or perform the copyrighted work, or to make derivative works. It often refers to copying intellectual property without the creator's written permission."
It has nothing to do with whether they are making money. They are reproducing copyrighted material without permission. It is the copyright holder's exclusive right to distribute their work. It's no different than pirates who share digital kits with each other. Because they aren't making money doesn't make it OK. It's the copyright holder's right to sell the use of their copyrighted material and any use without permission is taking money out of their pockets. The reason digital designers do it is because they usually get away with it. George Lucas has better things to do than sue a digi scrap designer who is giving away the Star Wars Logo for free, but that still doesn't make it right.
When I said I didn't want to get into trouble, I was worried that I'd be as liable as the designer, even though I'd purchased the product in good faith. Is that not the case?
The kit has been removed. Thanks for all the information :D
Sahlin Studio has done this with Mickey Mouse related stuff ( ears, Epcot train etc etc) but she only offered it as add-ons to her Disney inspired kits for free. I think it's ok, as your not making money off of them. Which is probally why Paula has them as a freebie. February 1, 2012 5:45 PM
lol! Why don't you try sharing all your scrap kits for free and see how that goes.
Sahlin Studio has done this with Mickey Mouse related stuff ( ears, Epcot train etc etc) but she only offered it as add-ons to her Disney inspired kits for free. I think it's ok, as your not making money off of them. Which is probally why Paula has them as a freebie. February 1, 2012 5:45 PM
lol! Why don't you try sharing all your scrap kits for free and see how that goes.
What a flamin' moron.
You don't make any sense. I don't see what that has to do with scrap kits for free. Someone asked about Paula's new freebie and copyright issues.
Designers that do Disney freebies as "add-on" to a kit they are are selling is no bueno. Yes the add-on is free, but you are giving away those Disney images to incite people to BUY the kit that it matches. Which means you will essentially be making money of the Disney stuff when people buy the kit.
Yes it's wrong but Disney doesn't care nor take action. So what can you do? The only way to punish those designers is social sanction which is never gonna happen since there are thousands of Disney scrappers out there who LOVE these freebies and more than willing to buy any Disney related product designers can put in their shops. I myself will never support them but really, what else can you do? We have been talking about this time and time again and everything is still the same.
Great valentine overlay for all the lesbians out there!
There are lots of talented lesbians scrappers from all over the world ...apparently including you! i have a lot of friends that go this way and everyone should support them! If you liked this freebie, please share it.
So many people have got preconceived notions about gays and lesbians like you! There are plenty of people who are gay, bisexual, lesbian and that is perfectly fine. Just be the best person that you can be...straight or not! Go do your laundry Baby! If you talk bad about other people you can be sure as hell that they're doing the same to you!
I really think it's ok, as your not making money off of them.
______ So you're saying it's really ok if I go buy a bunch of kits and then just share them all? Woot!
Really. Think before you speak.
That is not what they meant. They were talking about the Star Wars things in Paula's freebie. Not about the scrap kits you buy.
Here is my question If scrappers can use images off the internet ( like pictures of actors from google, perfume bottle ads, pictures of shoes, vacation spots, plus other things), why can't someone make a flair out of one of the pictures and offer it as a freebie like Paula did? Aren't those images they use on those pages copyrighted also? Obviously it is okay as some top designers allow their CT members to use images borrowed off the internet. Or maybe it isnt ok and the designers don't really care?
Designers who allow their CTs to use images without permission are playing with fire as Cajoline found out. It is written right into my CT contract that it's not OK. The pictures they use must be ones they took or have permission to use or a stock photo with the proper permissions. There are some stock photo sites where the pictures are permissable to use. The Morgue Files is one where I have read the TOUs and they are permissible for use in advertising your products like a CT LO but not to put in a kit for sale.
Personal LOs used for completing challenges and in galleries are a whole different matter than taking a copyrighted image and distributing it for other people to use. It's the distributing part. A designer who does it is using the freebie to market their business and therefore profitting from it. It's wrong. period.
That being said I wouldn't grab images from the web even for a personal LO but those who do aren't nearly in the same category as those who re-distribute the images.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of FREE stock images a designers can use in their kits and scrappers can use on their pages. Majority of them can easily be found on sites by looking for Creative Commons-licensed content that is OK for commercial use.
There is absolutely no reason to ban stock photos or to chastise people who use them. Just educate yourself and educate your creative teams. It's not hard, people.
I believe the analogy of "borrowing" unauthorized stock images to distribute in freebies to sharing your digital scrap kits for free with your friends is spot on. I fail to see how anyone would think they're 2 different things. You do know your digital scrap kits are nothing more than images, right? And the giving away of those images to your friends for free is no different than a designer giving away images for free...
Annoys me when designers who make a buttload of money (Trixie, Sahlin) use 4shared for downloads. Spend $10 a month and give your fans fast, direct downloads.
Better yet, get yourself server space, a domain name and host your own downloads. It's even cheaper.
Folks who use 4shared might want to look into doing that anyway, with the whole megaupload deal. I've heard some other sites are being targeted, too. n I would imagine sites like 4shared and rapidshare will be next in line.
I'll be honest, I hardly even bother when designers use RapidShare. Most of the time it takes forever and sometimes I wait 320 seconds for the dl link only to to have it start all over again because it didn't 'take'. I don't think it's very professional to use it, personally. But that's just me. To me, it may be free, but usually it isn't worth the headache.
Folks who use 4shared might want to look into doing that anyway, with the whole megaupload deal. I've heard some other sites are being targeted, too. n I would imagine sites like 4shared and rapidshare will be next in line. February 2, 2012 12:51 PM
Megaupload is gone. Shut down by the feds. I know FileSonic had stopped enabling downloads and many more, including 4Shared, have taken measures to protect themselves.
Yeah, well, the U.S. is first. The rest of the world is not far behind. Google ACTA. If you thought SOPA was bad, (putting on my conspiracy hat) my true belief is that SOPA was to distract us all from ACTA.
"ACTA is an international trade agreement negotiated by the European Union, the United States, Japan, Canada, South Korea, Australia, Mexico, Morocco, Singapur [sic] as well as a few other countries, whose aim is to enforce copyright and tackle counterfeited goods (hence its acronym: Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement)."
Nothing relevant to previous discussions, but for the sake of store owners (hopefully) reading this: When you do store collabs/blog trains, could you PLEASE create an all-inclusive preview? I am sorting through my downloads from the last few months and it drives me nuts not to have previews for kits. If I can't see a preview of a kit, I know it will sit there unused because it will get lost amongst the thousands of other folders. I know each designer provides their individual preview, but I like to be able to see the entire finished kit in one preview. If you could keep this in mind for the future, that would be fabulous. No Previews.... No Fun!
For some reason, I can only see the first 200 comments even though it says there are almost 600... anyone else having this problem. Oh and lest anyone think I am just an idiot that doesn't know how to click a link for next page... there is no link. :)
Nothing relevant to previous discussions, but for the sake of store owners (hopefully) reading this: When you do store collabs/blog trains, could you PLEASE create an all-inclusive preview? I am sorting through my downloads from the last few months and it drives me nuts not to have previews for kits. If I can't see a preview of a kit, I know it will sit there unused because it will get lost amongst the thousands of other folders. I know each designer provides their individual preview, but I like to be able to see the entire finished kit in one preview. If you could keep this in mind for the future, that would be fabulous. No Previews.... No Fun!
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I agree. I was organizing some kits I purchased from Lilas and not one of them had a preview in it. (Not a collab), but still... she obviously made one for her shop product but couldn't bother putting one in any of her kit links. Pisses me off when I gotta go hunt them down.
Nothing relevant to previous discussions, but for the sake of store owners (hopefully) reading this: When you do store collabs/blog trains, could you PLEASE create an all-inclusive preview? I am sorting through my downloads from the last few months and it drives me nuts not to have previews for kits. If I can't see a preview of a kit, I know it will sit there unused because it will get lost amongst the thousands of other folders. I know each designer provides their individual preview, but I like to be able to see the entire finished kit in one preview. If you could keep this in mind for the future, that would be fabulous. No Previews.... No Fun!
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I think freebies are important and I am in the camp that thinks designers should bite the bullet and pay for hosting to skip sites like 4shared ... but I won't agree with asking store owners or blog train organizers to make one big overall preview.
Honestly as a freebie hunter I think you need to look at your expectations.
Those kind of previews can take HOURS to make. Not to mention the organizational work going into getting the designer to send their parts to whomever is doing the preview (usually for blog trains designers don't upload their parts to the store server like they do store collabs). I really don't think it's reasonable to ask for all that extra time and work to go into a mega kit you are already getting for free so it can be more 'fun' for you.
For paid kits - I agree, an overall preview is necessary.
I think freebies are important and I am in the camp that thinks designers should bite the bullet and pay for hosting to skip sites like 4shared ... but I won't agree with asking store owners or blog train organizers to make one big overall preview.
Honestly as a freebie hunter I think you need to look at your expectations.
Those kind of previews can take HOURS to make. Not to mention the organizational work going into getting the designer to send their parts to whomever is doing the preview (usually for blog trains designers don't upload their parts to the store server like they do store collabs). I really don't think it's reasonable to ask for all that extra time and work to go into a mega kit you are already getting for free so it can be more 'fun' for you.
For paid kits - I agree, an overall preview is necessary.
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Sorry you feel that way. The "top-tier" stores typically do "bother" making the effort. I would think a preview is needed to advertise what people are getting in the first place. I'm sure running a store is a lot of work, but is it that tough to find a designer or CT member to offer up a few hours of time to help present the event effectively? Those who say no are probably also those who don't bother doing much marketing themselves because they can't be "bothered". If you can't "bother", then maybe you shouldn't own a store. Creating a kit without a preview is kind of like trying to drive a car without the key.
Are we wishing for a SINGLE collab preview or several ones? I would think that for a collab to be displayed effectively in a single preview might be asking a lot, unless you dont mind having just tiny views of all the papers and elements. But I would agree to have at least some previews, and if the collab is done by several designers, each of them should at least have their own stuff in a preview.
I've done that, and yes, it does take hours. I can't imagine not including one, though... just seems lazy.
I agree, it's part of the responsibility of putting something like that together. And if you can't rely on your participants getting things to you on time, how do you know they'll have them on their blog on time?
Here is something I don't understand: are color palette copyrightable? If so, it answers my question. If not, why would one need to find commercial use color swatches? http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=296454 And then, why would some designers assign a CU label to them. Can a designer complain that another one used her color swatches like they would ask to remove an element from a kit?
Sorry you feel that way. The "top-tier" stores typically do "bother" making the effort. I would think a preview is needed to advertise what people are getting in the first place. I'm sure running a store is a lot of work, but is it that tough to find a designer or CT member to offer up a few hours of time to help present the event effectively? Those who say no are probably also those who don't bother doing much marketing themselves because they can't be "bothered". If you can't "bother", then maybe you shouldn't own a store. Creating a kit without a preview is kind of like trying to drive a car without the key.
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Which 'top tier' stores do that? When Scrap Orchard (a name that gets tossed around here as top tier) did their Halloween blog train there was no previews at all, just Halloween doors on everyone's blog. On the last Scrapbook Graphics blog train there were only individual previews. I don't remember a recent freebie where there was a big overall preview. Which ones do you remember?
I'm not talking about creating a KIT without a preview - I'm talking about a FREEBIE.
I'm sure running a store is a lot of work, but is it that tough to find a designer or CT member to offer up a few hours of time to help present the event effectively? Those who say no are probably also those who don't bother doing much marketing themselves because they can't be "bothered". If you can't "bother", then maybe you shouldn't own a store.
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You are absolutely clueless about what it takes to run a store.
Are we wishing for a SINGLE collab preview or several ones? I would think that for a collab to be displayed effectively in a single preview might be asking a lot, unless you dont mind having just tiny views of all the papers and elements. But I would agree to have at least some previews, and if the collab is done by several designers, each of them should at least have their own stuff in a preview.
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The OP is wishing for a single preview, specifically saying individual designer previews are not enough.
If it's that important to you to have an overall preview just so you can organize your kits with a preview ("folder"), and you don't think it's asking too much of a store owner etc. to do it, then maybe you should just create the preview yourself. If you know how to scrap, then you can create a preview. And if it's not that much trouble, then just do it. Idiot.
I see happy tits, Alyssa, aka. alyangel made Shabby Miss Jenn's CT. I hope Jenn knows she just made her entire store available to a crazy, lying, probable pirate (and "designer").
Did anyone else notice that when SMJ posted her new CT she just picked up Happy Tits to be on her CT? Seriously!? How does a well-known, established designer like SMJ not know to avoid Alyssa? Is that even possible?
Looks like we were posting at the same time. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read the new team's names. Jenn is in for a wild roller coaster ride on this one. And I fully agree about the pirating part. It won't be coincidence when SMJ's designs start getting distributed in the parenting "sharing" forums next month.
Speaking of, isn't Alyssa part owner of With Love Studio? If so, how did that store get to be on the MSA site to be featured? I might have gotten the site wrong it might have been DST. I remember reading somewhere about WLS.
Eeew! These are gross! Why would anyone want to put one of these on their layout? http://www.heartbeatzcreationz.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=4183
Whether you scrap or make signature tags or whatever, I still wonder why the vast majority of posers are so lightly dressed and so often in explicite position. I never worked with that program but if they can make figurines like that, they surely can dress them properly and change the position. Why do we mostly see those kinds instead of some "cute" ones (can they make cute ones?)
I never understood why they were so provocative either. Do I really want that in a siggie? What are they conveying to other users? That they're a slut?
As said before, those are likely not to be used in scrapbooking. I am surprised they are in the same store. A bit like having a Victoria Secret section at Michael's. They both have their customer base, but I doubt they are the same. Just saying.
Anyone noticed that SM ended up not closing at all? I was probably just hiding under a rock somewhere but with all the talks about the closing, it looks like it is still alive.
Talk about self-absorbed. While providing full size scraps for scrappers and digital layouts, the store itself seems to be geared toward taggers.
How do I know? Because they have 733 tagger sized kits and only 148 full sized kits. Not to mention the use of the word "tube" all over the place. Get a clue. Scrappers aren't the only ones using or making digital kits.
As for the allure of posers. They are cheap to make, cheap to buy. There are a lot of women who are more open about their sexuality and actually like to use them to express that side of themselves usually with other women. Haven't you ever gone to a club and worn a mini skirt and a provocative low cut top?
There are MUCH worse out there than those. It's a matter of preference. (Not my preference, but for some it is)
Did anyone else notice that when SMJ posted her new CT she just picked up Happy Tits to be on her CT? Seriously!? How does a well-known, established designer like SMJ not know to avoid Alyssa? Is that even possible?
Alyssa = Paperplane Studio = Studio Demo = AlyAngel and a few others, also nicknamed Happy Tits after a discussion in this blog about a photo in the header of her blog where she was showing a deep clivage, then she came in the conversation as herself and stirred the pot. She has been linked to a forum Babygaga where kits are being shared. After her outburst on this blog, she was let go of her stores as designer. She opened her own store (WithLoveStudio) and has also joined other stores as a designer. I am sure others can add more interesting details but that is a quick summary.
My math says that there is a LOT of scrapbooking stuff in there, that is not much related to Posers. ___________________
Your math is wrong. Unless you're including items for sale that are used primarily in designing, such as designer previews, scripts, actions, and other cu products, which are also probably used by tagger oriented designers. But I wouldn't say those are related to scrapping as much as designing.
The majority of their PU items are tagger related. Especially since the majority of tube/poser users do it for tags, not layouts - from what I've seen.
It doesn't really matter anyway since the store is full of shit anyway. I wouldn't purchase anything sold from there regardless of whether it was for tagging or scrapping.
I suspect Happy Tits puts on a good story about how people misunderstood her, she's reformed, reports of her insanity are blown out of proportion, etc. Perhaps the designers who took her onto their CT would like to contact some of the store owners whose ENTIRE STORE COLLAB FOLDER on the FTP she emptied. On a whim.
I know of at least one designer at her store who knows exactly what Alyssa did and still stays on at her store so I guess sum people will always buy a sob story and a 'I just need a second chance' request.
Alyssa's also going by Profile Couture these days. Apparently she changes her design name as often as people change their underwear. ---- Who buys her shit?
---- Alyssa being on certain teams explains why some stuff has suddenly appeared on some of the sites I keep my eye out on.
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 679 Newer› Newest»Well cause it's KCB that's why LOL. I am not a huge fan of her stuff. So I don't understand why you would shake and cry.
There is no one on this earth I would shake & cry over - let alone a digiscrap designer. This makes me feel good since I always thought I had no life - but obviously there are those who have even less of one than I do!
I have no idea what KCB did for her call - why did someone say 'pick your own CT'?
She let her CT choose. Which apparently is "unfair". Since when do CT calls have to be fair? They pick who they pick, there's no rules. Get over it.
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If you applied to the call knowing her CT was going to choose (which she did disclose), then you have no reason to bitch. At. All.
I agree with the PP that the ones chosen are all good scrappers. Except for one in my eyes, too, but she's a huge SSD kiss ass, so I wasn't surprised to see her on the list.
It would be great if someone could actually fill us in on what was said, though.
So which is the one that you think got in because they are a kiss ass?
There was one that applied that went after KCB and her team. It was either at SSD or on KCB's fan page but it got deleted. She got really nasty to the CT as a whole for not picking her. I know she CT'd for the MSS blog before it went to a store. I think her name had Scraps in it or something.
Kendall is the kiss ass?
I wouldn't have applied to that team in the first place. You MUST use every new release, you MUST scrap 4 pages a month, and they MUST be done between Friday afternoon and Saturday morning. Just to get the kit for free? I'll pass.
I'm the OP. Kendall is definitely the one I was thinking of. I thought there were far better scrappers, many on fewer teams, but everyone looks for something different.
As far as the possible "scraps" person, I'm not familiar with who blogs for MSS. Looking at the application thread, there was a Rachels Scraps whose gallery is weak and I would have passed right on by.
There was also a tjscraps that applied. I think she's an OK scrapper, but she's on a lot of busy teams. I wouldn't have chosen her.
Were either of those the ones who went postal?
No they weren't. Scraps is the name she uses on FB. I have no idea what her SSD name is.
Kissing ass sadly is what you have to do around SSD to get picked for CT's. It is sad, but those that do it are obviously getting picked!
It was Laura Marie aka LauraMarieScraps that was causing all the trouble on FaceBook.
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Why is that sad? Better to have an active in the forum, if ordinary, scrapper than one who is better but doesn't participate in anything.
Her name at SSD is LauraMarie. She's on 9 teams already, almost all of them at Scrap Orchard. If she did that, I'd kick her off my team quicker than shit. That is awful.
She's not even an amazing scrapper - average. I would have passed her over, too, given far more talented scrappers in that thread.
Bullet dodged.
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Why is that sad? Better to have an active in the forum, if ordinary, scrapper than one who is better but doesn't participate in anything.
January 26, 2012 5:07 PM
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For my team, I'd pick the talented scrapper over the half-assed scrapper/forum groupie every single time. I guess it's all about what is important to you in a creative team member.
LauraMarie sounds like a real piece of work! She may have dodged a bullet with her current with her teams, but I'm guessing there are a few designers who will avoid her after her crazy temper tantrum. I know I will.
There were quite a few people pouting on Facebook because of that call yesterday.
And there will be more pouting when Zinnia's and Swallowtails announces hers tommorrow too.
I don't understand the big deal with Zinnias and Swallowtails. It's some squares on a page. I can make that type of page in 5 mins.
I wouldn't touch Laura Marie with a 10 ft pole and I'd certainly disassociate myself with her if she were on my team, too.
For my team, I'd pick the talented scrapper over the half-assed scrapper/forum groupie every single time. I guess it's all about what is important to you in a creative team member.
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Yep, the person who gets my name out there. No good having a talented scrapper if they don't promote you. Been there, had that.
I don't understand the big deal with Zinnias and Swallowtails.
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What big deal?
The half-assed scrapper isn't doing anything to make your work sell. In fact, they may do more harm than good. If I see an ugly page, I'm not going to click on it to see if the kit was cute.
If you are getting all butt hurt because you got turned down for a CT, you probably shouldn't be applying in the first place. Disappointed, yes. Enraged and/or devastated, no.
Isn't LauraMarie a designer, too?
What big deal?
January 26, 2012 6:28 PM
If people get upset over not getting on their CT, I'd say it's a big deal to them. Duh.
Yes, Laura Marie is a designer.
http://store.gingerscraps.net/LauraMarie-Scraps/
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Before you DUH me, find out what I was replying to, which was someone asking why are Zinnias and Swallowtails a big deal. Duh!
The half-assed scrapper isn't doing anything to make your work sell.
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Says who? Says you? There's a big difference between a half assed scrapper and an ordinary scrapper. If the ordinary scraper is active and promoting you, then they are making your work sell.
If people get upset over not getting on their CT, I'd say it's a big deal to them. Duh.
January 26, 2012 7:28 PM
They meant the big deal about Zinnias and Swallowtail templates.
Yes, Laura Marie is a designer.
http://store.gingerscraps.net/LauraMarie-Scraps/
January 26, 2012 7:41 PM
Yuck!
Yeah, LauraMarie is the person I originally posted about - pouting on her Facebook page.
I'd love to see / hear what she posted that got deleted. Yup, I'm nosy like that.
Pickle Berry Pop must be getting desperate to take on Trixie and Mye. WOW, desperate much?
Well, seeing as how a CT is a TEAM it makes perfect sense that you would let team members pick people they think they can trust and work with. Duh.
They will regret it because wherever Trixie Craps goes you can bet she will bring trouble. That girl whines and throws temper tantrums the instant someone dares to disagree with her! She is a miserable person.
I didn't follow much but what happened to Pickleberry Pop? The owner was Annette, and I thought she was a well respected owner with a store doing very well, then Carolyn seemed to have taken over, I thought mostly as an admin, to help Annette, but now, it is yet another owner, and Carolyn is opening her own store.
Anyone has a summary of what has been going on?
Last I checked, CTMs didn't have to work with each other.
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Last I checked, CTMs didn't have to work with each other.
January 27, 2012 9:49 AM
This.
Last I checked, CTMs didn't have to work with each other.
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Exactly! Just ohhh and ahhh over sometimes crappy layouts in the designer's forum.
Some of your "facts" on here seem to be pulled out of your big fat asses.
Some of your "facts" on here seem to be pulled out of your big fat asses.
January 27, 2012 11:25 AM
Some of your "specifics" seem to be stuck up your asshole.
No, that is your just your bloated hand looking for your hohos again. They are in your lap but you probably cant see it because you have 8...
Looks like the classy Laura Marie Scraps is in the house.
Awesome, it's about to get fun finally.
Wrong, clear the grease from your eyes and try again.
It's Laura Marie SoCal now. Gangsta Scrapper Extraordinaire.
Laura got hacked and said it wasn't her who went off in a rage on KCB LOL. I have got to use that excuse sometime.
She got hacked by someone who knew she had applied, but not gotten, for the CT call? So, that is implying that someone hacked her specifically for that purpose?
Yes. Handy excuse. The old Facebook Hack. LOL.
At least now, she's said "never again". Promise, Laura Marie?
You can't be serious? Who the hell would believe that nonsense? Hacked. That's amazing. I definitely would disassociate myself with her ASAP. What a headcase.
I don't recall anyone else getting "hacked."
Still laughing.
I would have a hell of a lot more respect for Laura Marie if she admitted it and stood by what she said. Now, no respect whatsoever. Not that I had much anyway, but I try to be kind to the mentally crazy.
I didn't follow much but what happened to Pickleberry Pop? The owner was Annette, and I thought she was a well respected owner with a store doing very well, then Carolyn seemed to have taken over, I thought mostly as an admin, to help Annette, but now, it is yet another owner, and Carolyn is opening her own store.
Anyone has a summary of what has been going on?
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Yeah, Carolyn bought it from Annette a few years ago and then kind of ran her designer base in to the ground by acting like such a bitch to too many people. I'm guessing most of their designers are glad to see her gone. The new owner seems to be making some changes that at least appear to be an effort to bring the store back up. They have some designers that aren't that good but they also have some designers that are quite good. Mye and Tracy probably have pretty good sales bases to offer (for whatever reason I don't understand), but they may bring drama with them too. They tend to tattle on each other and have to try and out-do each other a lot. Hopefully the new owner is able to put her foot down and not put up with their crap. And I also heard from someone who's on both of their CT's that they are both dropping some of their other stores for PBP. I would guess PBP wouldn't have taken them if they kept that many others. PBP may not be a top-tier store, but they are sure as hell better than SBB and MScraps. They've already weeded out a few of the loser designers, so that's a good sign. I haven't hung out there a lot, but when I have, there doesn't seem to be the cattiness and drama going on there that goes on at SSD, SO, and a few others. From what I've heard, the new owner is more professional and reasonable than many other store ownders, so who knows. She can't be any worse than Carolyn, Stacy or Maya and a few others who treat everyone like enemies, choose favorites and hold grudges. Carolyn was famous for that. It's probably best she has her own store now cuz she can't get along with anyone else anyway. It'll be interesting to see how they do the next few months. I've actually wondered about trying to get on there because even though they aren't a TOP store, they also don't seem to be involved in as much drama as some other places. Of course, I could be wrong, but one of my designer friends is at PBP and she tells me all the time that she likes it there. No drama amongst designers and CT's and her sales are better there than her stores at GP, SBB, FPG and MM. So maybe there's something to be said for having a lower profile but keeping your nose to the grindstone. All I know is that I'm sick to death of having to deal with some of the snotty-ass owners I've dealt with in the past. And I'm getting tired of some people acting like SO or SSD or SBG is THE only place to be. And no, I'm not bitter because I've been turned down at any of those stores. I'll admit I'm too new to be considered a great designer, but I think I'm definitely middle-tier and working my way up. Up to "where" is the question.
That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out right now, where I want to go.
Yes, I know who the new owner is and I have respected her as a designer for a long time. I was excited when I found out she was taking over. She IS very professional and fair, but TRUST me, she will NOT put up with crap.
Curious here: why did Annette sell in the first place?
No clue why Annette left. That I haven't heard. Seems like it may have been health reasons though.
I know we've talked before about the "amazing page" commenters at DST that have 10k+ posts each. I was just wondering WHY they do that? Is it some kind of contest? Do they really enjoy saying "pretty page" 4,000 times? Seems odd to me.
Curious here: why did Annette sell in the first place?
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Too much work, got bored, other interests, health issues; I don't know for sure, but any of those are likely.
Awesome, it's about to get fun finally.
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the convo about hoohoos is fun? How old are you? I bet you watch Housewives, don't you?
Laura getting hacked is almost as good as the person who accidentally posted a very personal inbox message on her wall and didn't know how to delete it, despite very detailed instructions from a friend. The person still couldn't do it and decided it was because she was on a Mac, and Facebook had to work different on a Mac!
User error is user error, making up stupid excuses just makes you look stupid.
the convo about hoohoos is fun? How old are you? I bet you watch Housewives, don't you?
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WTF are you talking about? The comment was in response to "Looks like the classy Laura Marie Scraps is in the house". The comment before that one was about Ho Hos. There's a difference between vaginas and chocolate cake snacks. Seems like the only one obsessed with 'hoohoos', as you so maturely put it, is you.
I like my vagina. I'm totally comfortable being obsessed with it.
Seems like the only one obsessed with 'hoohoos', as you so maturely put it, is you.
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I'm obsessed with them because I mentioned them once, and then only because I mistyped something, of which I have no clue in the first place. What the heck are hohos? Forgive me.
The comment before that one was about Ho Hos. There's a difference between vaginas and chocolate cake snacks.
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Sorry, I didn't see that they were snack. What kind of stupid name is ho hos for a snack?
Sorry, I didn't see that they were snack. What kind of stupid name is ho hos for a snack?
January 27, 2012 9:17 PM
As if calling your vagina a hoohoo isn't stupid?
I know someone knows what Laura said - spill it!
You mean her hacker...
Oh, right.
As if calling your vagina a hoohoo isn't stupid?
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I never called a vagina a hoohoo, what are you talking about? I mistyped the word. You are the one that called it a hoohoo.
I think this blog has reached an all-time low.
I think this blog has reached an all-time low.
DITTO!!
Not really. No. I'm still very much entertained. I think it's much worse when we were fixated on facebook fan count. :)
No an all time low will be when someone suggests Ho Hos in the HooHoo.
And here we are!
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Laura Marie called KCB a coward and that she was 'too chicken' to pick her own team.
why can't I see the newer comments? anyone having this problem?
Laura Marie called KCB a coward and that she was 'too chicken' to pick her own team.
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That's it?
(and lol at the idea of someone hacking her account to say that)
Laura Marie called KCB a coward and that she was 'too chicken' to pick her own team.
January 28, 2012 6:02 PM
Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
Something is wrong with this blog and being able to see the numbers and new posts.
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Something is wrong the people on this blog. They aren't numbered and I can't see them!!
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Hey... I can't see any new comments. Only the first 200. What's up?
Blogger has changed their settings/format. Unless the blog owner contacts Blogger or looks up how to change it back to how it was, then it's going to continue to not have the numbers and be messed up.
When I had my last CT Call, I had my girls look over the applicants that I chose for my short list and then told me who they thought would work best on OUR team. Yes... OUR team. Even though I'm the designer, my girls are a very valuable resource to me. They promote me, work with each and every kit. They always meet deadlines and they totally rock. In order to get to that point, I had to let a lot of slackers go. And in this ct world, a lot of the ct girls know each other from other teams and they know who has been problems in the past for other teams. That's why I trust my team to help me choose.
With all of that being said, I had the final say on who came to the team. KCB should have done the same and then maybe she wouldn't have to deal with this crappy response. It's your team... take responsibility for it.
Thank you, that is all! :)
It doesn't matter how you run your team, etc. Although, I do agree that asking your CT about applicants is definitely a good idea because they do know who the slackers are and who makes LOs, etc.
KCB posted that her CT would be choosing up front for all to see. If you're going to apply under those conditions, then why bitch about it when you weren't chosen? It's not like she mislead anyone at all.
It's SSD. It's KCB. Of COURSE they're going to choose their favorite people. It's how it's done in high school, people. But if you applied, you have no reason to call anyone a "coward."
The only coward in this drama is Laura Marie for stating she had someone hack her account. That is pathetic and sad. But, people have stood by her (stupid people).
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Are all the comments of dots and stuff people trying to figure out the new way the blog displays comments?
I haven't seen anything different about the way new posts come up or anything. What has changed?
I don't see any change either. But I guess the people who can't see past the first 200 comments are those who click on the number of comments rather than the post title to read all the comments. They don't have the "newer" or "newest" links to click on. I feel sorry for them but since they can't see the newest comment anyway, there's nothing else we can do to help. *shrug*
I just checked and you guys are absolutely right abut the commenters at DST- all they know how to do is say _______page (nice, pretty, etc) I praise and I at least try to say something constructive.
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Instead of clicking on the comment numbers, click on the post title (New Space for 2012) and then you'll get to a page that has the newer and older post links.
I don't see any change either. But I guess the people who can't see past the first 200 comments are those who click on the number of comments rather than the post title to read all the comments. They don't have the "newer" or "newest" links to click on. I feel sorry for them but since they can't see the newest comment anyway, there's nothing else we can do to help. *shrug*
Clicking on the new space didn't work for me as it would only take me to the first page and no page numbers as the bottom. I finally made a post and then the numbers showed back up so there is obviously a glitch or the blog owner has to update but I can once again see page numbers at the bottom.
Is it legal to sell kits that contain decoupage images sourced online? Wouldn't the image have to be in the public domain to be used?
I would greatly appreciate some advice here, I was about to buy a kit I really like but when I looked closely I recognised at least 3 images and sure enough, I found them online for sale in decoupage stores and being shared on foreign websites.
Email the decoupage store and wait to see what they'll do about it. Writing them shouldn't cost you more time than posting here. I'm not being mean or trying to put you down but I think that's the only way to be certain. The designer could have obtained the right to sell the images although I really don't think that is the case.
I did exactly that after posting here, I've even asked them if the image is in the public domain. Not sure if they'll share that information or not, they may not even get back to me.
Is there a resource on the net to check 'common' PD images? I know I've seen these types of images a bunch of times in the last 6 years.
If it turns out the images are copyrighted, should I just let it go? I was initially checking for my own benefit as I'm often skeptical about image sources and don't want to land myself in trouble. I don't want to get the designer in trouble, I'm quite sure over 50% of her kits use these images, but at the same time, it could have consequences for everyone who buys and uses her kits, couldn't it?
Has the designer been using this kind of images for long or just this particular kit? Is she one of the better selling designers in her store? I ask because that might play a part in how the scrap store react to it. I think it's your right as a potential customer to "innocently" write the store to ask if they know about the images and if it's okay for you to buy and use the kit. It might be interesting to see how they'll respond. If the designer is really in the right, she has nothing to worry about.
In answer to your questions: I'd say majority of her kits use these images and I think the store is relatively new though I can't say for sure. I believe the designer is quite popular, I could be wrong though.
I feel hesitant to contact the store owner until I know if the images are copyrighted or not.
Thanks for the advice, I'll wait to hear back from the decoupage store.
Can you post a link to the images in the decoupage store for us to look at them - they might be dover images or something similar.
Just heard back from the decoupage store, the images are copyrighted to her so I gave her the details. Glad I checked before buying :S
Does this happen a lot with designers?
Just out of curiosity, what consequences do you think a scrapper could face for using copyrighted images? If you're just using the images for your own personal use, I don't think you need to worry if the images are copyrighted or not. Of course if you don't want to support piracy that's totally understandable, but you mentioned landing yourself in trouble and I don't understand how that would happen. I would think if there was any trouble, it would fall on the designer's shoulders, not yours. (and please don't call me an idiot for not fully studying copyright law, I'm not a designer so I didn't think it applied to me)
I think I understand where the OP is coming from. I didn't think she's gonna be in a real trouble with the law or anything but to make layouts you don't have a complete trust that they won't attract wrong kind of attention when posting in galleries or personal blog is troubling enough for a lot of people. Me for one. I used to CT for some designers who will never do this. But if this kind of thing happens and the products have to be removed from stores, the layouts made with such products will likely be asked to be taken down as well. I will probably be really pissed since the layouts are mine and I shouldn't have to feel embarrassed showing them.
speaking of copyright.....whats the verdict on Paula Kesselrings FB freebie? FULL of copyrighted/trademarked images...
Shes not selling them (over 70 in the pack), but.....I dunno.
Last month it was COLS (OTBS) with her kit with a couple of the same images...but she was SELLING it.
whatcha think on this one?
Sahlin Studio has done this with Mickey Mouse related stuff ( ears, Epcot train etc etc) but she only offered it as add-ons to her Disney inspired kits for free. I think it's ok, as your not making money off of them. Which is probally why Paula has them as a freebie.
No. It sharing someone else's images is not ok. Even if are not making money off of it.
I don't for a second believe that any designer does not know that. Try buying something from Paula or Sahlin's store and give it away as freebies. Claim that it's ok since you aren't making any money off it and see if Paula or Sahlin come screaming at you about how you are a pirate for sharing their designs.
It sharing someone else's images is not ok. Even if are not making money off of it.
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I shouldn't type when I'm this sleepy. That should say:
Sharing someone else's images is not ok. Even if you are not making money off of it.
If that is the case, why do they get away with it?
I really think it's ok, as your not making money off of them. Which is probally why Paula and Sahlin has them as a freebie...
Sharing copyrighted or trademarked items for free is SO not ok. It is still distributing and it is potentially negatively affecting the income of the copyright holder. It is NEVER ok to share copyrighted items, free or paid for. It is still piracy!
That is like saying it is ok to share software because it is free. Ah, that is major NO!
According to Wikipedia: "Copyright infringement is the unauthorized or prohibited use of works under copyright, infringing the copyright holder's exclusive rights, such as the right to reproduce or perform the copyrighted work, or to make derivative works. It often refers to copying intellectual property without the creator's written permission."
It has nothing to do with whether they are making money. They are reproducing copyrighted material without permission. It is the copyright holder's exclusive right to distribute their work. It's no different than pirates who share digital kits with each other. Because they aren't making money doesn't make it OK. It's the copyright holder's right to sell the use of their copyrighted material and any use without permission is taking money out of their pockets. The reason digital designers do it is because they usually get away with it. George Lucas has better things to do than sue a digi scrap designer who is giving away the Star Wars Logo for free, but that still doesn't make it right.
When I said I didn't want to get into trouble, I was worried that I'd be as liable as the designer, even though I'd purchased the product in good faith. Is that not the case?
The kit has been removed. Thanks for all the information :D
Sahlin Studio has done this with Mickey Mouse related stuff ( ears, Epcot train etc etc) but she only offered it as add-ons to her Disney inspired kits for free. I think it's ok, as your not making money off of them. Which is probally why Paula has them as a freebie.
February 1, 2012 5:45 PM
lol! Why don't you try sharing all your scrap kits for free and see how that goes.
What a flamin' moron.
Sahlin Studio has done this with Mickey Mouse related stuff ( ears, Epcot train etc etc) but she only offered it as add-ons to her Disney inspired kits for free. I think it's ok, as your not making money off of them. Which is probally why Paula has them as a freebie.
February 1, 2012 5:45 PM
lol! Why don't you try sharing all your scrap kits for free and see how that goes.
What a flamin' moron.
You don't make any sense.
I don't see what that has to do with scrap kits for free. Someone asked about Paula's new freebie and copyright issues.
Designers that do Disney freebies as "add-on" to a kit they are are selling is no bueno. Yes the add-on is free, but you are giving away those Disney images to incite people to BUY the kit that it matches. Which means you will essentially be making money of the Disney stuff when people buy the kit.
Yes it's wrong but Disney doesn't care nor take action. So what can you do? The only way to punish those designers is social sanction which is never gonna happen since there are thousands of Disney scrappers out there who LOVE these freebies and more than willing to buy any Disney related product designers can put in their shops. I myself will never support them but really, what else can you do? We have been talking about this time and time again and everything is still the same.
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Great valentine overlay for all the lesbians out there!
Great valentine overlay for all the lesbians out there!
There are lots of talented lesbians scrappers from all over the world ...apparently including you!
i have a lot of friends that go this way and everyone should support them!
If you liked this freebie, please share it.
So many people have got preconceived notions about gays and lesbians like you!
There are plenty of people who are gay, bisexual, lesbian and that is perfectly fine. Just be the best person that you can be...straight or not!
Go do your laundry Baby!
If you talk bad about other people you can be sure as hell that they're doing the same to you!
I really think it's ok, as your not making money off of them.
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So you're saying it's really ok if I go buy a bunch of kits and then just share them all? Woot!
Really. Think before you speak.
I really think it's ok, as your not making money off of them.
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So you're saying it's really ok if I go buy a bunch of kits and then just share them all? Woot!
Really. Think before you speak.
That is not what they meant. They were talking about the Star Wars things in Paula's freebie. Not about the scrap kits you buy.
Here is my question
If scrappers can use images off the internet ( like pictures of actors from google, perfume bottle ads, pictures of shoes, vacation spots, plus other things), why can't someone make a flair out of one of the pictures and offer it as a freebie like Paula did? Aren't those images they use on those pages copyrighted also? Obviously it is okay as some top designers allow their CT members to use images borrowed off the internet. Or maybe it isnt ok and the designers don't really care?
Designers who allow their CTs to use images without permission are playing with fire as Cajoline found out. It is written right into my CT contract that it's not OK. The pictures they use must be ones they took or have permission to use or a stock photo with the proper permissions. There are some stock photo sites where the pictures are permissable to use. The Morgue Files is one where I have read the TOUs and they are permissible for use in advertising your products like a CT LO but not to put in a kit for sale.
Personal LOs used for completing challenges and in galleries are a whole different matter than taking a copyrighted image and distributing it for other people to use. It's the distributing part. A designer who does it is using the freebie to market their business and therefore profitting from it. It's wrong. period.
That being said I wouldn't grab images from the web even for a personal LO but those who do aren't nearly in the same category as those who re-distribute the images.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of FREE stock images a designers can use in their kits and scrappers can use on their pages. Majority of them can easily be found on sites by looking for Creative Commons-licensed content that is OK for commercial use.
There is absolutely no reason to ban stock photos or to chastise people who use them. Just educate yourself and educate your creative teams. It's not hard, people.
I believe the analogy of "borrowing" unauthorized stock images to distribute in freebies to sharing your digital scrap kits for free with your friends is spot on. I fail to see how anyone would think they're 2 different things. You do know your digital scrap kits are nothing more than images, right? And the giving away of those images to your friends for free is no different than a designer giving away images for free...
What ever happened to Heather Ann Meltzer?
I hadn't been to her blog in awhile, but now it's password protected.
Darn, I used to enjoy looking at her blog - she always had really nice layouts. I hope she starts blogging again.
How about the pictures of George Clooney (or whomever) you add to your avatar as your "date" for a store event?
You aren't giving out your avatar for people to download. There is a huge difference between personal use and re-distributing the image.
Annoys me when designers who make a buttload of money (Trixie, Sahlin) use 4shared for downloads. Spend $10 a month and give your fans fast, direct downloads.
Annoys me when someone bitches about the method of delivery for a FREE product.
Annoys me when someone bitches about the method of delivery for a FREE product.
Agreed!!!
Better yet, get yourself server space, a domain name and host your own downloads. It's even cheaper.
Folks who use 4shared might want to look into doing that anyway, with the whole megaupload deal. I've heard some other sites are being targeted, too. n I would imagine sites like 4shared and rapidshare will be next in line.
Or go in together with several other designers to make it even cheaper! It's so not expensive.
I'll be honest, I hardly even bother when designers use RapidShare. Most of the time it takes forever and sometimes I wait 320 seconds for the dl link only to to have it start all over again because it didn't 'take'. I don't think it's very professional to use it, personally. But that's just me. To me, it may be free, but usually it isn't worth the headache.
^^ actually I meant 4-shared. But regardless, it's a pain in the ass. I can handle Rapidshare as a rule.
Folks who use 4shared might want to look into doing that anyway, with the whole megaupload deal. I've heard some other sites are being targeted, too. n I would imagine sites like 4shared and rapidshare will be next in line.
February 2, 2012 12:51 PM
What are you referring to?
Megaupload is gone. Shut down by the feds. I know FileSonic had stopped enabling downloads and many more, including 4Shared, have taken measures to protect themselves.
I should add that (other than megaupload, which was located in the US) if you are outside the US, you probably won't have a problem using most sites.
In the US, uploaded.to is blocked as are some others.
The US is so fucked up.
I don't want to go into a huge political tirade on this blog, but what's happening here is scary.
Yeah, well, the U.S. is first. The rest of the world is not far behind. Google ACTA. If you thought SOPA was bad, (putting on my conspiracy hat) my true belief is that SOPA was to distract us all from ACTA.
"ACTA is an international trade agreement negotiated by the European Union, the United States, Japan, Canada, South Korea, Australia, Mexico, Morocco, Singapur [sic] as well as a few other countries, whose aim is to enforce copyright and tackle counterfeited goods (hence its acronym: Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement)."
It has been signed.
Who exactly is Cajoline & what happened to her? I thought I read something about her being sued for using a photograph?
Does she design or ct?
If I remember, Cajoline is being sued (or was) because her CT used a copyrighted photograph, not her.
Wow, not much going on I guess.
hello
i see paula kesselring changed up her freebie.
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Nothing relevant to previous discussions, but for the sake of store owners (hopefully) reading this: When you do store collabs/blog trains, could you PLEASE create an all-inclusive preview? I am sorting through my downloads from the last few months and it drives me nuts not to have previews for kits. If I can't see a preview of a kit, I know it will sit there unused because it will get lost amongst the thousands of other folders. I know each designer provides their individual preview, but I like to be able to see the entire finished kit in one preview. If you could keep this in mind for the future, that would be fabulous. No Previews.... No Fun!
For some reason, I can only see the first 200 comments even though it says there are almost 600... anyone else having this problem. Oh and lest anyone think I am just an idiot that doesn't know how to click a link for next page... there is no link. :)
^^^^ Nevermind... after commenting I now have older and newer links.
Nothing relevant to previous discussions, but for the sake of store owners (hopefully) reading this: When you do store collabs/blog trains, could you PLEASE create an all-inclusive preview? I am sorting through my downloads from the last few months and it drives me nuts not to have previews for kits. If I can't see a preview of a kit, I know it will sit there unused because it will get lost amongst the thousands of other folders. I know each designer provides their individual preview, but I like to be able to see the entire finished kit in one preview. If you could keep this in mind for the future, that would be fabulous. No Previews.... No Fun!
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I agree. I was organizing some kits I purchased from Lilas and not one of them had a preview in it. (Not a collab), but still... she obviously made one for her shop product but couldn't bother putting one in any of her kit links. Pisses me off when I gotta go hunt them down.
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Nothing relevant to previous discussions, but for the sake of store owners (hopefully) reading this: When you do store collabs/blog trains, could you PLEASE create an all-inclusive preview? I am sorting through my downloads from the last few months and it drives me nuts not to have previews for kits. If I can't see a preview of a kit, I know it will sit there unused because it will get lost amongst the thousands of other folders. I know each designer provides their individual preview, but I like to be able to see the entire finished kit in one preview. If you could keep this in mind for the future, that would be fabulous. No Previews.... No Fun!
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I think freebies are important and I am in the camp that thinks designers should bite the bullet and pay for hosting to skip sites like 4shared ... but I won't agree with asking store owners or blog train organizers to make one big overall preview.
Honestly as a freebie hunter I think you need to look at your expectations.
Those kind of previews can take HOURS to make. Not to mention the organizational work going into getting the designer to send their parts to whomever is doing the preview (usually for blog trains designers don't upload their parts to the store server like they do store collabs). I really don't think it's reasonable to ask for all that extra time and work to go into a mega kit you are already getting for free so it can be more 'fun' for you.
For paid kits - I agree, an overall preview is necessary.
I think freebies are important and I am in the camp that thinks designers should bite the bullet and pay for hosting to skip sites like 4shared ... but I won't agree with asking store owners or blog train organizers to make one big overall preview.
Honestly as a freebie hunter I think you need to look at your expectations.
Those kind of previews can take HOURS to make. Not to mention the organizational work going into getting the designer to send their parts to whomever is doing the preview (usually for blog trains designers don't upload their parts to the store server like they do store collabs). I really don't think it's reasonable to ask for all that extra time and work to go into a mega kit you are already getting for free so it can be more 'fun' for you.
For paid kits - I agree, an overall preview is necessary.
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Sorry you feel that way. The "top-tier" stores typically do "bother" making the effort. I would think a preview is needed to advertise what people are getting in the first place. I'm sure running a store is a lot of work, but is it that tough to find a designer or CT member to offer up a few hours of time to help present the event effectively? Those who say no are probably also those who don't bother doing much marketing themselves because they can't be "bothered". If you can't "bother", then maybe you shouldn't own a store. Creating a kit without a preview is kind of like trying to drive a car without the key.
Are we wishing for a SINGLE collab preview or several ones? I would think that for a collab to be displayed effectively in a single preview might be asking a lot, unless you dont mind having just tiny views of all the papers and elements. But I would agree to have at least some previews, and if the collab is done by several designers, each of them should at least have their own stuff in a preview.
I've done that, and yes, it does take hours. I can't imagine not including one, though... just seems lazy.
I agree, it's part of the responsibility of putting something like that together. And if you can't rely on your participants getting things to you on time, how do you know they'll have them on their blog on time?
It is not difficult doing a collab preview if it is just incorporating all the previews on 1 600x600 doc.
If we're talking about individual pieces on one doc, that's a pain in the ass and most items will be buried anyway.
Here is something I don't understand: are color palette copyrightable? If so, it answers my question. If not, why would one need to find commercial use color swatches?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=296454
And then, why would some designers assign a CU label to them. Can a designer complain that another one used her color swatches like they would ask to remove an element from a kit?
I am really puzzled.
IMO if you can't a) choose your own palette and b) are willing to pay for palettes - you shouldn't be a designer.
NWO
What would be in the TOU for a color palette? Not interested in buying one to find out, but still curious.
Sorry you feel that way. The "top-tier" stores typically do "bother" making the effort. I would think a preview is needed to advertise what people are getting in the first place. I'm sure running a store is a lot of work, but is it that tough to find a designer or CT member to offer up a few hours of time to help present the event effectively? Those who say no are probably also those who don't bother doing much marketing themselves because they can't be "bothered". If you can't "bother", then maybe you shouldn't own a store. Creating a kit without a preview is kind of like trying to drive a car without the key.
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Which 'top tier' stores do that? When Scrap Orchard (a name that gets tossed around here as top tier) did their Halloween blog train there was no previews at all, just Halloween doors on everyone's blog. On the last Scrapbook Graphics blog train there were only individual previews. I don't remember a recent freebie where there was a big overall preview. Which ones do you remember?
I'm not talking about creating a KIT without a preview - I'm talking about a FREEBIE.
I'm sure running a store is a lot of work, but is it that tough to find a designer or CT member to offer up a few hours of time to help present the event effectively? Those who say no are probably also those who don't bother doing much marketing themselves because they can't be "bothered". If you can't "bother", then maybe you shouldn't own a store.
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You are absolutely clueless about what it takes to run a store.
Are we wishing for a SINGLE collab preview or several ones? I would think that for a collab to be displayed effectively in a single preview might be asking a lot, unless you dont mind having just tiny views of all the papers and elements. But I would agree to have at least some previews, and if the collab is done by several designers, each of them should at least have their own stuff in a preview.
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The OP is wishing for a single preview, specifically saying individual designer previews are not enough.
ROFL, I can't believe some of you guys are bitching about not having all inclusive previews for BLOG TRAINS. I mean, SERIOUSLY??
If it's that important to you to have an overall preview just so you can organize your kits with a preview ("folder"), and you don't think it's asking too much of a store owner etc. to do it, then maybe you should just create the preview yourself. If you know how to scrap, then you can create a preview. And if it's not that much trouble, then just do it. Idiot.
I see happy tits, Alyssa, aka. alyangel made Shabby Miss Jenn's CT. I hope Jenn knows she just made her entire store available to a crazy, lying, probable pirate (and "designer").
Did anyone else notice that when SMJ posted her new CT she just picked up Happy Tits to be on her CT? Seriously!? How does a well-known, established designer like SMJ not know to avoid Alyssa? Is that even possible?
Looks like we were posting at the same time. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read the new team's names. Jenn is in for a wild roller coaster ride on this one. And I fully agree about the pirating part. It won't be coincidence when SMJ's designs start getting distributed in the parenting "sharing" forums next month.
Happy Tits is also on AnnaBV's team and someone else at SO.
Speaking of, isn't Alyssa part owner of With Love Studio? If so, how did that store get to be on the MSA site to be featured? I might have gotten the site wrong it might have been DST. I remember reading somewhere about WLS.
Eeew! These are gross! Why would anyone want to put one of these on their layout?
http://www.heartbeatzcreationz.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=4183
Seriously? Really who would scrap with these??
Oh I think the one on the bottom left would be perfect for my family photos from Valentine's Day.
They're posers. What's your point? People don't necessarily scrap with them but use them for tags or whatnot.
Believe it or not, you can do other things besides create digiscrap layouts with digital images. I know, I know, it's shocking.
Whether you scrap or make signature tags or whatever, I still wonder why the vast majority of posers are so lightly dressed and so often in explicite position. I never worked with that program but if they can make figurines like that, they surely can dress them properly and change the position. Why do we mostly see those kinds instead of some "cute" ones (can they make cute ones?)
I never understood why they were so provocative either. Do I really want that in a siggie? What are they conveying to other users? That they're a slut?
I used to make siggie tags at Cafe Mom years ago and used posers a lot. People requested them all the time. I never understood it either.
As said before, those are likely not to be used in scrapbooking. I am surprised they are in the same store. A bit like having a Victoria Secret section at Michael's. They both have their customer base, but I doubt they are the same. Just saying.
Anyone noticed that SM ended up not closing at all? I was probably just hiding under a rock somewhere but with all the talks about the closing, it looks like it is still alive.
Talk about self-absorbed. While providing full size scraps for scrappers and digital layouts, the store itself seems to be geared toward taggers.
How do I know? Because they have 733 tagger sized kits and only 148 full sized kits. Not to mention the use of the word "tube" all over the place. Get a clue. Scrappers aren't the only ones using or making digital kits.
As for the allure of posers. They are cheap to make, cheap to buy. There are a lot of women who are more open about their sexuality and actually like to use them to express that side of themselves usually with other women. Haven't you ever gone to a club and worn a mini skirt and a provocative low cut top?
There are MUCH worse out there than those. It's a matter of preference. (Not my preference, but for some it is)
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Plus 987 scrapbook related products that are not kits: designer previews, elements, overlays, PS actions, PSP scripts, QP, wordart...
My math says that there is a LOT of scrapbooking stuff in there, that is not much related to Posers.
Did anyone else notice that when SMJ posted her new CT she just picked up Happy Tits to be on her CT? Seriously!? How does a well-known, established designer like SMJ not know to avoid Alyssa? Is that even possible?
WHO is Alyssa???????
Alyssa = Paperplane Studio = Studio Demo = AlyAngel and a few others, also nicknamed Happy Tits after a discussion in this blog about a photo in the header of her blog where she was showing a deep clivage, then she came in the conversation as herself and stirred the pot. She has been linked to a forum Babygaga where kits are being shared. After her outburst on this blog, she was let go of her stores as designer. She opened her own store (WithLoveStudio) and has also joined other stores as a designer. I am sure others can add more interesting details but that is a quick summary.
She wasn't just let go from her stores because of her outburst here. She went into the FTP of 1 or 2 of her stores and deleted all the store collabs.
My math says that there is a LOT of scrapbooking stuff in there, that is not much related to Posers.
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Your math is wrong. Unless you're including items for sale that are used primarily in designing, such as designer previews, scripts, actions, and other cu products, which are also probably used by tagger oriented designers. But I wouldn't say those are related to scrapping as much as designing.
The majority of their PU items are tagger related. Especially since the majority of tube/poser users do it for tags, not layouts - from what I've seen.
It doesn't really matter anyway since the store is full of shit anyway. I wouldn't purchase anything sold from there regardless of whether it was for tagging or scrapping.
Happy Tits is also on AnnaBV's team and someone else at SO.
February 6, 2012 11:09 PM
That is shocking, too, given how many SO designer's read this blog.
Are good scrappers really that hard to find these days we have to start taking people like Happy Tits?
I suspect Happy Tits puts on a good story about how people misunderstood her, she's reformed, reports of her insanity are blown out of proportion, etc. Perhaps the designers who took her onto their CT would like to contact some of the store owners whose ENTIRE STORE COLLAB FOLDER on the FTP she emptied. On a whim.
I know of at least one designer at her store who knows exactly what Alyssa did and still stays on at her store so I guess sum people will always buy a sob story and a 'I just need a second chance' request.
Yah, I guess sum people will do that and some people won't :)
Ok, so who would want that on a tag??? Posers in general are gross.
I am DYING to know what AlyAngel typed to us all before she chickened out and deleted it.
Ok, so who would want that on a tag??? Posers in general are gross.
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Well, obviously not you. So why are you so worried about what other folks do?
I want to know what "Aly" said too.
She does that. She posts then comes back and deletes it. LOL.
Because she's crazy.
She's just pulling our chain - ignore her, bad smells do go away in time ....
Alyssa's also going by Profile Couture these days. Apparently she changes her design name as often as people change their underwear.
Hey, happy tits!!
Still in remission from that bug bad 'cancer' of yours?
Alyssa being on certain teams explains why some stuff has suddenly appeared on some of the sites I keep my eye out on.
Interesting.
Why do we mostly see those kinds instead of some "cute" ones (can they make cute ones?)
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Yes, you can make cute ones and you do see them. All those fairies and elves and whatnot are also poser.
Alyssa's also going by Profile Couture these days. Apparently she changes her design name as often as people change their underwear.
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Who buys her shit?
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Alyssa being on certain teams explains why some stuff has suddenly appeared on some of the sites I keep my eye out on.
Interesting.
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Spill then!
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