Saw the request for new space. Debating over a topic...Steakums or DST downtime.
For those of you that are gold and diamond members there, does the frequent and extended down time irritate you? Do you feel like the money you paid for "membership" give you special gripe privileges? Does it irritate you enough to complain to Shannon?
As always discuss this or anything else...I still check in on you, and will post new space around Easter or sooner if requested. Have a good one...off to drink a pint.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 491 of 491Sigh, maybe it's your attitude? Did you think of that? No, obviously not. Again, way to deflect.
Um, I'm the one with the GOOD attitude and don't really see the things wrong with DST that everyone else has been pointing at. So I guess I need to check my good attitude and make it bad? That makes sense?
I've seen so many newbies post in the scrap chatter or NSBR and just not get answered. I think that's snobby, maybe you don't.
So who's responsibility is it to answer these posts? Why don't YOU answer them?
I don't think it's snobby that they are going unanswered. I've seen them and usually they are asking questions that are really hard. Such as "How do I begin digiscrapping when I can't figure out Photoshop?" And then when someone does respond, you all will complain that it is pimping.
I think it's time to make the community what we want it to be and stop waiting for someone else to take care of it for us.
Elemental Scraps New look has gone live. What do you think?
I like it. The place needed freshening up!
I like the new look of ES, much better than before. Unfortunately it's just as slow loading as the last site. I can't stand shopping in a store that takes forever to load.
I haven't noticed it being slow for at least the last few months.
new space please
They're just out to get our money.
Money grubbing designers.
April 4, 2009 9:35 PM
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Wow so people who want to make an honest living out of designing are Money grubbers... WOW!
Since when it is so bad to want to earn an honest wage???
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They're just out to get our money.
Money grubbing designers.
April 4, 2009 9:35 PM
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Wow so people who want to make an honest living out of designing are Money grubbers... WOW!
Since when it is so bad to want to earn an honest wage???
April 6, 2009 7:51 PM
She's just another one of the people who think designers should just close up shop and give everthing away....... Does she really think people should spend hours and hours on kits just for her free enjoyment........
only when they are using marketing tactics like retiring and coming back at a new store a few months later.
I think the poster was being sarcastic to make a point? I could be wrong.
So who's responsibility is it to answer these posts? Why don't YOU answer them?
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I do.
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I think it's time to make the community what we want it to be and stop waiting for someone else to take care of it for us.
April 5, 2009 11:04 PM
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After 18 months of beating my head against a brick wall, I'm done. The community is never going to be what I want it to be because it's too big and too many people are happy with the status quo or have gone elsewhere.
I don't have a "bad" attitude towards DST, I'm just over it. There's a big difference.
only when they are using marketing tactics like retiring and coming back at a new store a few months later.
April 6, 2009 10:01 PM
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Anne De Jong never said she was retiring, she said she was taking a break.
Lisa Whitney said the same thing.
I'm not sure who the designers are that say they are retiring and then move to a new store.
Not true on Lisa Whitney. It was said yhat she was retiring and she claimed it was the last chance to get her stuff. She's back and so is her stuff.
I don't have a "bad" attitude towards DST, I'm just over it. There's a big difference.
April 7, 2009 3:00 AM
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You're over it? Yet here you are on a blog that is dedicated to smacking DST? That doesn't sound over it to me.
Is she selling the same products that she said "last chance" about?
Is she selling the same products that she said "last chance" about?
April 7, 2009 8:18 AM
Yep - even her SA Apprentice kit
Is she selling the same products that she said "last chance" about?
April 7, 2009 8:18 AM
Yep.
You're over it? Yet here you are on a blog that is dedicated to smacking DST? That doesn't sound over it to me.
April 7, 2009 7:51 AM
What is your problem? You are here on the same blog that she is. And while DST might be mentioned in the title there are posts about all thing digi-not just DST.
If you want the whole sunshine and roses approach, what are YOU doing here?
I am here because you all need someone to debate with. Otherwise it's just a bitch-fest.
I'm the person that actually responded to the bad attitude poster. I'm here because I believe that a number of them problems with the digi community exist because people are imature. If someone doesn't answer their posts they take it personally. If someone doesn't comment on their layouts they whine. If a designer retires and then decides to come back, they get smacked on a blog. And this is just the recent crap. You all feel you have the right to know everything that a designer has ever done wrong before you even think about buying a product. It's crazy!
I'm not looking for sunshine and roses. I don't think it's right that DST doesn't work half the time. I'm annoyed about the broken images and slow gallery. And I have dealt with these by emailing DST with my name attached.
But I'm also not going to sit back and let the smack about the lies prevail. Someone has to ask the questions and point it out.
I'm on this blog because it might change even one person's perspective and hopefully let them know that that this place is full of lies, jealousy, and deceit. I'm big enough to read it and not believe it! And I can handle whatever you dish out. It would be different if any of what is posted posted wasn't just a bunch of accusations with no proof. It's all based on feelings.
You are so about being OPEN and allowing all opinions, right? I think you can handle having someone asking more questions before you point fingers. If not, well, then you aren't thick skinned enough to be on a smack blog.
Oh goodie, the savior of the digi scrap world is here!
You're not fooling anyone-you're here because you want to read the smack. Tell yourself whatever you need to to justify it to yourself, but no one but you is buying that bullshit.
that this place is full of lies, jealousy, and deceit.
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And what digi site isn't??
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I'm big enough to read it and not believe it!
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Well, all of us idiots out here need to bow down and thank doG that you're here as the moral watchdog of the digi world! After all, you're the only one capable of realizing that smack blogs contain some lies or *gasp!* opinions
@@ You seriously need to get over yourself.
It was said at least once at DST that Lisa Whitney was retiring and it was the last chance to grab her stuff.
Then she's back 3 months later with all her old stuff.
I can see how that looks like a marketing ploy to some.
Lisa Whitney never said she was going to retire. When she closed her shop she said she was going into hibernation, which to me says that someday she would be back. Here is the link to her blog with the sale announced as a hibernation sale.
http://lisawhitney.typepad.com/eclecticmommy/2008/11/dont-miss-it.html
Some of you people get the facts wrong and then spout off like morons!
Food for thought...
I am a customer not a designer. I pay absolutely NO attention to banner ads. I don't click on them and doubt I ever will.
Do you think they are actually useful. Do other customers use them?
It was said at least once at DST that Lisa Whitney was retiring and it was the last chance to grab her stuff.
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Please link up to the post where this was said. Just a quick search indicates that she stated that she was taking a temporary hiatus and that products were going into hibernation. I did not see the words "retire" or "last chance".
I don't think it's right that DST doesn't work half the time. I'm annoyed about the broken images and slow gallery. And I have dealt with these by emailing DST with my name attached.
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Do you think you're the only one who has emailed DST? The emails are ignored, the customers are brushed aside, and THAT'S why places like this blog exist.
Ann Dejong also stated she was taking a break from designing, not retiring. The fact that she went to a new store, just made sense. FPD is a has been store.
Link to announcement - http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129053
Please link up to the post where this was said. Just a quick search indicates that she stated that she was taking a temporary hiatus and that products were going into hibernation. I did not see the words "retire" or "last chance".
April 7, 2009 4:07 PM
A quick search at DST and I came up with this:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=158315&highlight=lisa+whitney&page=2
post #12
So, please link up where you see "that she stated that she was taking a temporary hiatus and that products were going into hibernation."
Sometimes posts at a site don't get answered. There are so many posts sometimes they just slip by unnoticed.
It is perfectly ok to bump your own post with a comment like "this may have slipped through the cracks, any help would be appreciated."
If a question doesn't get answered, it is not necessarily that people are being rude. There is so much going on in the digi world, it is getting harder and harder to just keep up with everything.
Food for thought...
I am a customer not a designer. I pay absolutely NO attention to banner ads. I don't click on them and doubt I ever will.
Do you think they are actually useful. Do other customers use them?
April 7, 2009 3:59 PM
Another shopper who pays no attention at all to banner ads.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=156597&highlight=LWD
http://lisawhitney.typepad.com/eclecticmommy/2008/11/dont-miss-it.html
Some of you people get the facts wrong and then spout off like morons!
April 7, 2009 3:52 PM
pot, meet kettle
The original comment was that the retiring/last chance comments were made AT DST.
A quick search at DST and I came up with this:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=158315&highlight=lisa+whitney&page=2
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The comment that Lisa was retiring came from Michele not Lisa. You can't blame Lisa that someone else passed along incorrect information.
I didn't blame Lisa-just posted a link to where it was said at DST that she was retiring and it was the last chance to grab her products.
The idea that someone states something at DST and then that info is passed on here as "fact" is mind boggling.
Just because something is said at DST or anywhere else for that matter doesn't make it true. This is the internet and anyone can say anything they want. You have to do your own due diligence and research to determine fact from fiction.
Just because something is said at DST or anywhere else for that matter doesn't make it true. This is the internet and anyone can say anything they want. You have to do your own due diligence and research to determine fact from fiction.
April 7, 2009 4:39 PM
Thank you, Captain Obvious. That was exactly the point about the DST posts. You're no safer trusting info from DST than info from anywhere else on the net
I didn't blame Lisa-just posted a link to where it was said at DST that she was retiring and it was the last chance to grab her products.
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I wasn't referring to "you" specifically. Just "you" as globally meaning all of us. The gist of the original posts was criticizing designers for saying that they were retiring and then showing back up in a few months. Lisa was used as an example. My point was only that she didn't actually say that she was retiring so accusing her of using that as a marketing ploy was unjustified.
Thank you, Captain Obvious. That was exactly the point about the DST posts. You're no safer trusting info from DST than info from anywhere else on the net
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Yep, I need to be obvious because some people around here just don't get it.
It doesn't matter even if she did say she's retiring. She's allowed to change her mind. (or any other designer for that matter!)
Designers just need to stay out of forums, off the blogs, STFU and just design and sell their stuff. Go to the DCR and comiserate with each other on how horrible customers are or something.
Changing your mind is ok.
Marketing ploys are ok.
Saying you are going to retire when you know you are switching stores pisses people off. I'm not saying anyone did this. But apparently just giving the impression that you might have done this is enough to piss people off.
Actually some people just get pissed off rather easily.
So next time a designer has a sale because she is leaving, retiring, taking a break or whatever...people may not rush to grab the deals before they're gone just in case they may come back. If it's on sale and you want it just buy it.
I'm really pissed off that the thread on the Photography forum that (rightfully) disgruntled Michelle Pearson photography students were speaking up on has been buried in the Scrap Resources forum.
Hollie posts about it here:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=184857
WTF!!! Why is Shannon allowing this to happen? That's bullshit. Potential customers need to know what happened...it should be kept in the forefront.
OMG When a designer asks for a style or action to create vellum in the DCR you know the digiscrapping world is up the creek without a paddle..
Seriously?? I am just flabbergasted that the skills of designers have degraded to such a point that the need an action to create vellum. That is what commercial use products have brought us. UGH!!
I am sorry but you cannot say you are a designer when you don't even know how to create vellum!
NEWBIE CU DESIGNERS.... please learn how to DESIGN!!! You, (shock horror) do not need an action or style for every little thing you create.. you can (SHOCK HORROR) do it yourself if you only learn how to use your software!!
WTF!!! Why is Shannon allowing this to happen? That's bullshit. Potential customers need to know what happened...it should be kept in the forefront.
April 7, 2009 6:08 PM
Are you to DST or something? This is exactly what Shannon allows to happen any time there's an issue like this. She's been letting it happen since very shortly after DST opened its doors.
6:10, take it to the DCR.
all you designers wanted to cash in on the "laziness" of people who didn't or couldn't learn their software, so shut up and go milk the cash cow, 6:10
Nope, not new to DST...just not there enough to notice trends.
I do check the gallery and visit the Photograpy forum once in a while, and this thread caught my attention because I took one of Michelle's classes, and I was happy that people were coming forward to report her FRAUD.
re: the request for a vellum making action
Quick! Someone let Amanda Rockwell know that there's a CU product she hasn't made yet!!!!
I was happy that people were coming forward to report her FRAUD.
April 7, 2009 6:18 PM
Unfortunately, if people are coming forward at DST, it will get squelched very quickly.
You are so about being OPEN and allowing all opinions, right? I think you can handle having someone asking more questions before you point fingers. If not, well, then you aren't thick skinned enough to be on a smack blog.
April 7, 2009 10:49 AM
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As the original "bad attitude" poster, I think you should follow your own advice. You have pointed your finger at me several times, and quite happily. You refer to me as the bad attitude poster, I reiterate that I didn't have a bad attitude, I was merely expressing my dissatisfaction, sorry if that counts as bad attitude with you, but that makes you immature, as you can only see things as 'bad' and 'good'.
I gave a list of what I wanted to see in a forum, which you happily picked apart, again in a very accusatory tone. Even to the point of making things up like, "they aren't answered as they are asking really hard questions", I wasn't aware saying hello was a hard question. Wow, look at that, I learned something new today.
I'm not sure why you are taking it all so personally.
I have responded in a mature way, but you can't seem to handle that.
OMG When a designer asks for a style or action to create vellum in the DCR you know the digiscrapping world is up the creek without a paddle..
Seriously?? I am just flabbergasted that the skills of designers have degraded to such a point that the need an action to create vellum. That is what commercial use products have brought us. UGH!!
I am sorry but you cannot say you are a designer when you don't even know how to create vellum!
NEWBIE CU DESIGNERS.... please learn how to DESIGN!!! You, (shock horror) do not need an action or style for every little thing you create.. you can (SHOCK HORROR) do it yourself if you only learn how to use your software!!
April 7, 2009 6:10 PM
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I do hope that you directed her to Atomic Cupcake, I do believe she has such an action and has had one for a very long time.
all you designers wanted to cash in on the "laziness" of people who didn't or couldn't learn their software, so shut up and go milk the cash cow, 6:10
April 7, 2009 6:17 PM
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Sorry I am not one of those designers. I can make all my own stuff and don't need CU products to do it. I actually took the time to learn my software and I don't sell CU products. Why on earth would I create more competition for myself?? Albeit competition that can't design for themselves!
I have no desire to use the same CU stuff every second designer uses. Keeping my designs original works for me and my customers know they will get an original quality product when they buy my designs and that is the way I like it.
Would love to see how popular a Vellum style would be in the CU market tho, would be interesting! ROFL Oh dear....
Link to ONE post that someone hasn't said hello to someone. Maybe it just hasn't been done in a time frame that's satisfactory to you?
6:33, you are really becoming an obnoxious harpie, and I am not the OP that you are constantly picking apart. You obviously think that DST is just peachy, so why aren't you over there being friendly and contributing to the great community?
I do that too!
I'm really pissed off that the thread on the Photography forum that (rightfully) disgruntled Michelle Pearson photography students were speaking up on has been buried in the Scrap Resources forum.
Hollie posts about it here:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=184857
WTF!!! Why is Shannon allowing this to happen? That's bullshit. Potential customers need to know what happened...it should be kept in the forefront.
April 7, 2009 6:08 PM
I have to say that I am pretty jaded by what goes on at DST, but I followed your link and read these two threads.
I have to echo your WTF! This is some of the most blatant hushing up that I have seen at DST...ever. I really hope that more people do notice and comment on this over there, because it's beyond wrong.
I didn't think my opinion of DST could go much lower, but I was wrong.
6:10, take it to the DCR.
April 7, 2009 6:14 PM
Word.
She has a point though.
I have to echo your WTF! This is some of the most blatant hushing up that I have seen at DST...ever. I really hope that more people do notice and comment on this over there, because it's beyond wrong.
I didn't think my opinion of DST could go much lower, but I was wrong.
April 7, 2009 6:42 PM
Anyone who has taken one of Michelle Pearson's "classes" and has been dissatisfied should let that be known on photography sites, since she obviously has the ability to get opinions hushed up at DST
6:10, take it to the DCR.
April 7, 2009 6:14 PM
Word.
April 7, 2009 6:43 PM
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How do you know it wasn't?
I'm really pissed off that the thread on the Photography forum that (rightfully) disgruntled Michelle Pearson photography students were speaking up on has been buried in the Scrap Resources forum.
Hollie posts about it here:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=184857
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It looks like Michelle responded. She's blaming the class participants and implying that they are dissatisfied because they didn't take good photos to begin with.
How do you know it wasn't?
April 7, 2009 7:43 PM
It wasn't.
6:10, take it to the DCR.
April 7, 2009 6:14 PM
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Sorry I have no desire to ruffle feathers over there and get my name dragged through the mud in the process. Much easier to whine here.
Sorry I have no desire to ruffle feathers over there and get my name dragged through the mud in the process. Much easier to whine here.
April 7, 2009 7:50 PM
Well at least you're being honest. I can respect that.
Michelle's response that it was a post processing class is neither here nor there. I took her photography class, and it was just as bad. A few "handouts" - normally less than one page per lesson - with descriptions of photography basics (like aperture) that could have easily been found using a google search. It was a total rip off.
We were given Michelle's Flickr account to post our photos for comment, which she did do the first few weeks, but then totally abandoned.
AND she had the nerve to tell us that we were such a downer (for complaining about the class) that she couldn't get enthused. HELLOOOO...you had our damn money, that should have been incentive enough!
Very interesting that Lena claims she just now noticed that Michelle's original post was considered advertising, and that's why it was moved. That first post was on the Photography forum for 2-1/2 months!
It looks like Michelle responded. She's blaming the class participants and implying that they are dissatisfied because they didn't take good photos to begin with.
April 7, 2009 7:44 PM
It looks like she hairflipped, too.
Lena's explanation is just stupid. If Shannon moved it, she should have admitted it instead of sending Lena over to explain.
I'd bet big bucks that the only reason it got noticed is because Michelle reads over here, got pissed, and went straight to Shannon.
I mean, c'mon. Almost NOTHING gets responses from Shannon, but one of her old time buds gets called out and the thread is moved?! What a coincidence!!
Jeez, there's more lying and game playing over at DST than anywhere else in digi.
This Michelle Pearson thing just cinches it.
6:33, you are really becoming an obnoxious harpie, and I am not the OP that you are constantly picking apart. You obviously think that DST is just peachy, so why aren't you over there being friendly and contributing to the great community?
April 7, 2009 6:37 PM
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Amen.
I have to echo your WTF! This is some of the most blatant hushing up that I have seen at DST...ever. I really hope that more people do notice and comment on this over there, because it's beyond wrong.
I didn't think my opinion of DST could go much lower, but I was wrong.
April 7, 2009 6:42 PM
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There's been worse but it has been pretty bad over at DST in the last 8 or so months. I just don't want to hang there at all. I'm going to have quit some of my CTs as they require me to post at DST and I have no desire to. Free product is not enough compensation.
wv - plogi = someone who plugs someghing in the digi world
Michelle's response that it was a post processing class is neither here nor there. I took her photography class, and it was just as bad. A few "handouts" - normally less than one page per lesson - with descriptions of photography basics (like aperture) that could have easily been found using a google search. It was a total rip off.
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So why didn't people complain earlier??
It's a damn shame that someone else has gotten away with lots of peoples' $$ because the truth was kept quiet at DST.
We all need to start speaking up about this kind of crap-ESPECIALLY at DST. They can move threads, but they can't hide the truth forever if people are willing to speak up.
I didn't think my opinion of DST could go much lower, but I was wrong.
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Sadly, I agree.
Michelle did a hairflip at DST?? Why, because she can't face the truth?
This is a good thing because this means she won't be advertising her "classes" there anymore.
Good riddance.
Michelle said:
This is truely a Shame, I will not be posting here again so if you need to get a hold of me email me at mashell26@yahoo.com.. WOW I've been a digiscrapper for over 5 yrs, owned and ran digiscrappin.biz and held the biggest digiscrap contest to date (The Ulimate digiscrapper contest).. What a way to go out eh?
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Yes, it is quite a way to go out. Shame on YOU.
Michelle's hairflip was pathetic. Truly.
Anyone who lacks the ability to separate constructive criticism about work from personal criticism should NOT be attempting to hold down a job, much less run a business.
Michelle did a hairflip at DST?? Why, because she can't face the truth?
This is a good thing because this means she won't be advertising her "classes" there anymore.
Good riddance.
April 7, 2009 8:17 PM
I completely agree.
Sad thing is that she's probably doing the same kind of thing with her classes at some other site(s) out there.
Play that fiddle louder Michelle, it's the only way to drown out the legitimate complaints.
Unbelievable that Michelle is trying to become the victim in this.
Just sick that Shannon and her mod squad are ennabling her the way they have. Just love how Lena whipped out the DST terms when she told people they could continue the discussion!! She's become almost as skilled as Shannon at the smiley encrusted handslaps
WOW I've been a digiscrapper for over 5 yrs, owned and ran digiscrappin.biz and held the biggest digiscrap contest to date (The Ulimate digiscrapper contest).. What a way to go out eh?
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Hate to break it to you Michelle, but none of the above really gives you any bragging rights.
The way you went out was completely up to you. There have been complaints about your "classes" for a long time, and you chose to ignore them. You can only scam people and blow them off for so long. It's high time that it all caught up to you.
Michelle said:
This is truely a Shame, I will not be posting here again so if you need to get a hold of me email me at mashell26@yahoo.com.. WOW I've been a digiscrapper for over 5 yrs, owned and ran digiscrappin.biz and held the biggest digiscrap contest to date (The Ulimate digiscrapper contest).. What a way to go out eh?
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Wow, how old is this woman? Is she in her teens or 20s or something? I've never seen such childish behavior from someone who claims to be a professional. That shit really shouldn't fly with anyone who took that class and was less than happy about what went on. Glad I didn't take any of those classes because she sure the hell would be giving me a refund. ESPECIALLY after a comment like that. How pathetic.
The way you went out was completely up to you. There have been complaints about your "classes" for a long time, and you chose to ignore them. You can only scam people and blow them off for so long. It's high time that it all caught up to you.
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Spot on.
"Michelle said:
This is truely a Shame"
It's truly a shame she can't spell truly also.
What the heck was the Ultimate Digiscrapping Contest? I've never heard of it and I've been in digi since 2005. I remember Stand Up and Scrap and the Amazing Digi Scraping Race, but this one? Enlighten me, I must have missed it.
Robin Carlton won. I think it was one of the first digi contests and it was at dbiz which is gone now.
I think ES looks a TON better now than it did before! I LOVE the new look. The old one was downright ugly IMO. The new look is fresh and clean. Good job ES!
Blog owner, we need new space to smack each other around.
New space please!
Where is Comeundone?!
Why do you need a new space? What's wrong with this space?
too lazy to scroll...
Michelle is lame. One of the students should go on DST sharing "their" new workflow as a helpful post. I mean, taking her class, you're supposed to use it right?
If all the designers and customers who hate DST would simply stay off the site maybe the stupid thing would finally die a natural death. It's ugly, it's slow, it's filled with a bunch of fake wannabes who no longer know the truth from a hole in the ground. Not to mention the scammers like Michelle. How Shannon can take the money from that site and line her pockets with it. Then not invest a little bit of that money back into the site with upgrades to the server is just plain greedy! And sending out emails to people thanking them for their patience and telling them yet one more time that the site is going to be upgraded is BS! We've heard it before Shannon, not only do we not believe it, but even if you did it we'd still hate the site. Stop complaining people, do something about it! Without the site traffic, her advertisers won't get their views. Without advertisers, Shannon won't get her money. And Lord knows, when Shannon doesn't get her money, there won't be any more DST. Go spend your time at DSA or MSA where at least you won't be ripped off and they seem to actually run their sites and not just take the money and run.
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