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Saturday, April 11, 2009
Happy Easter!
I told you I would be back around Easter! What has been going on around the digi scene? Looks like the Scrapper Awards are coming to DST soon, always some good controversy with those. National Scrapbook day coming hopefully some good sales.
I think the attacks on MB are probably coming from AD. She sees it as revenge. because it was MB who originally said that AD had plagiarized her. And now AD has ~~almost~~ successfully taken the attention off of herself, albeit temporarily.
Regardless if the screenshot is real or fake I looked at her store at SPD and her products do look very much like Amanda's. Amanda did glitter stlyes exactly like the ones that Lilyanne has at SPD. The doodles too. I am on the fence about this mess but if it is true, then the person who outted her is not the issue. The fact that crazy Amanda might be fooling the community is the problem I have. It does seem pretty fishy though.
Amanda Dykan and Melissa Bennett are both psychopathic designers who I avoid at all costs. Why the big fuss over a couple of women who constantly forget to take their meds? LilyAnne is Amanda Dykan, who wanted a fresh start from being busted for copyright infringement amongst many other things and Melissa Bennett feels the need to out her publically. Thats it gals, end of story! Big FREAKIN deal!
LilyAnne is Amanda Dykan, who wanted a fresh start from being busted for copyright infringement amongst many other things ^^ Can you please explain how you are so sure of this?
If it's true, then it's just CRAZY that so many of the same designers collabed with her again.
LilyAnne is Amanda Dykan, who wanted a fresh start from being busted for copyright infringement amongst many other things and Melissa Bennett feels the need to out her publically. --------------------------
IF this is true, I can certainly see why Melissa Bennett would want to out her publicly. Pulling an Ashley Olsen is just not cool.
I think the attacks on MB are probably coming from AD. She sees it as revenge. because it was MB who originally said that AD had plagiarized her. And now AD has ~~almost~~ successfully taken the attention off of herself, albeit temporarily.
April 26, 2009 11:18 AM
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I'm NOT AD. Good try though.
I just know that MB is involved in a lot of the drama. Somehow she usualy gets someone else to do the dirtywork.
What brand new designer hops to 3 different stores in less than 2 months?
April 26, 2009 11:52 AMExactly, and comes out of nowhere. Don't most new designers start by hanging out, posting, getting their name out in the community, start with a freebie here and there for people to get a feel of what they have to offer? Not just all of sudden appearing, in established stores, with all kinds of kits and stuff ready to go. So she's just what? Been sitting in the background designing and all of a sudden you have well-known, established stores read to take her on? Nope, I'm with some of the others here, I'm calling bullshit on this.
And knowing the digi community like I do, I find it hard to believe that all those designers that did collabs with her didn't know what was going on.
April 26, 2009 12:09 PM ********************************* Such an insightful statement, sad but very insightful indeed. I can't imagine any of the designers that have done the collabs with her just took a brand new designer and decided, out of the goodness of their hearts, to do a collab with her. Puhlease.
Why would the designers knowingly collab with LilyAnne if they knew she was Amanda. That just seems so weird. But I guess no weirder than collabing with a total unknown.
Something strange in the neighbor hood....who ya gonna call...dsthof of course...
BTW, is this being discussed on any of the other smack blogs (if there are any left)??
And knowing the digi community like I do, I find it hard to believe that all those designers that did collabs with her didn't know what was going on.
April 26, 2009 12:09 PM
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
April 26, 2009 12:21 PM
No.
If they knowingly did collabs with "Lily Ann Taylor" and tried to pull one over on their customers that's just beyond wrong.
If Bren Boone and Faith True and Misty Cato are that sneaky, I want to know about it.
If the store owners at Scrap Orchard and Shabby Pickly are willing to deceive their customers like this, their customers have every right to know.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
April 26, 2009 12:21 PM
Are you freakin' nuts??
So this was all a big coordinated effort to give Amanda Dykan another chance and you want people to leave it alone? Good luck with that!
"They would all have you believe that they're just sweet and naive and oh-so-helpful to new designers.
It's not true." __________________________
"Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be." __________________________
Some of us designers honestly didn't know and quite frankly I still don't know if it's true or not. I saw a fresh new face on the design scene, I liked her work, I asked to do a collab with her and that's basically it. Whether or not what is being said about her is true or not, it has absolutely nothing to do with me and that's the way I want it to remain.
I think it's unfortunate for her if all of this is untrue. But if it is true I think it's very deceptive, underhanded and trifling.
I really hate that it happened either way it goes.
Please don't generalize and add me (or any other designer) to whatever speculations you all are making here. Some of us were none the wiser and still are.
"Why would the designers knowingly collab with LilyAnne if they knew she was Amanda. That just seems so weird."
exactly... why would all these designers waste their time making kits that are just gonna get pulled off the market a few weeks later? no... i don't see how they could have known in the first place, since no one really seems to know, and why they would risk their reputations.... and waste their time doing a collaboration with her.
If Bren Boone and Faith True and Misty Cato are that sneaky, I want to know about it.
April 26, 2009 12:28 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why does everyone think they need to be in the "know" about everything? Designers and store owners do not need to inform the public about every little thing that goes on. This is suppose to be a fun hobby for scrappers to enjoy. How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
April 26, 2009 12:21 PM *********************************** You're kidding right? Amanda was wrongly accused? That's probably the most laughable thing I've read on here yet. The woman is freakin' lunatic, everyone knows she's a lunatic, and these well-known, established designers want her to be able to have a fresh start? Why? Why would any of them take that chance? I just don't get it, makes no sense whatsoever.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be. ---------------------------------- Why should anyone let it be?
If it is true that the designers were trying to help Amanda, they made an error in judgment.
First, with the digi police out there how could they think they would get away with it.
Second, As we all know, us consumers do not like being deceived.
Third, Amanda had many other problems going on in addition to the last accusation. Seriously, why help someone like Amanda yet totally condemn someone like Tandika.
Fourth, if this becomes public knowledge those designers may lose a certain percentage of their customer base.
I do think something fishy is going on. But, I'm still not convinced that LilyAnne is Amanda. I am not willing to condemn someone based on what little evidence has been presented.
Why does everyone think they need to be in the "know" about everything? Designers and store owners do not need to inform the public about every little thing that goes on. This is suppose to be a fun hobby for scrappers to enjoy. How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
April 26, 2009 12:39 PM
If someone is lying and playing games in order to get my money, it's absolutely my business.
If store owners and designers want people to do nothing but shut up and shop, they need to do nothing but shut up and design and conduct business. Stay off the forums and the blogs and stop pretending to be friends with everyone if all you want is their money.
Why does everyone think they need to be in the "know" about everything? Designers and store owners do not need to inform the public about every little thing that goes on. This is suppose to be a fun hobby for scrappers to enjoy. How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
April 26, 2009 12:39 PM *********************************** Okay so maybe we don't need to be in the know about everything, but as a customer spending my hard-earned money I don't want it going to someone like Amanda Dykan. So yes, in this instance customers have every freakin' right to know, and to question what the hell is going on. Don't tell me to get a life, don't tell me what I do and don't need to know. I spend plenty of money on digi stuff, and I want to know who it's going to.
How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone. -------------------------------- LOL What do you think this blog is all about?
Why does everyone think they need to be in the "know" about everything? Designers and store owners do not need to inform the public about every little thing that goes on. This is suppose to be a fun hobby for scrappers to enjoy. How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
April 26, 2009 12:39 PM
As long as designers and store owners keep playing these games, it IS everyone's business!
If Lily Anne is innocent, she has been dragged all through the mud just for spite. ------------------------------- She has not been dragged through the mud. She has been dragged through this little blog that the majority of digi scrappers know nothing about.
And if nothing else, seriously there is some speculation as to her quick entrance into the digi scrap world and her sudden disappearance of kits from Scrap Orchard.
I spend plenty of money on digi stuff, and I want to know who it's going to.
April 26, 2009 12:46 PM
If you like the products then buy it. If you don't like it, move along. Who cares who made the product. Amanda has not done anything to deserve this CRAP! Wouldn't you want to design under over if you had to put up with this kind of stuff? THINK ABOUT IT!!
She has not been dragged through the mud. She has been dragged through this little blog that the majority of digi scrappers know nothing about. -- @@ Yeah right.
If you like the products then buy it. If you don't like it, move along. Who cares who made the product. Amanda has not done anything to deserve this CRAP! Wouldn't you want to design under over if you had to put up with this kind of stuff? THINK ABOUT IT!!
April 26, 2009 12:57 PM
STFU. Amanda has no one but herself to blame. No one made her tell that crazy shooting story. No one made her rip off her bud club customers. No one made her pay her designers late. No one made her steal from stock photo sites. And no one made her take on alternate identity.
The only thing that the alternate identity does is make her look GUILTY AS HELL.
If you like the products then buy it. If you don't like it, move along. Who cares who made the product. Amanda has not done anything to deserve this CRAP! Wouldn't you want to design under over if you had to put up with this kind of stuff? THINK ABOUT IT!!
April 26, 2009 12:57 PM
There's no way I'm going to buy products if they're from a known plagierizer and thief.
If Amanda has been designing under a fake name, customers have every right to know that.
And I hope that the person whose picture she is using will take action against her.
There are some very eeire similarities between Amanda and LilyAnne:
1. They both are good artists 2. They both are good graphic designers 3. They are both into doing collab kits 4. They both seem to jump around not seeming able to find a place in the digi community to stay put and develop 5. They both seem too busy to maintain their blogs
But then maybe these traits can be applied to many designers.
STFU. Amanda has no one but herself to blame. No one made her tell that crazy shooting story. No one made her rip off her bud club customers. No one made her pay her designers late. No one made her steal from stock photo sites. And no one made her take on alternate identity.
The only thing that the alternate identity does is make her look GUILTY AS HELL.
April 26, 2009 1:00 PM
Haven't you ever made a mistake and needed a fresh start? Last time I checked it was not a crime. Why condemn her and everyone else who are not so simple minded. Is all this worth getting so worked up over? Seems silly to me.
STFU. Amanda has no one but herself to blame. No one made her tell that crazy shooting story. No one made her rip off her bud club customers. No one made her pay her designers late. No one made her steal from stock photo sites. ^^^ I have to agree with all of this.
Even if Amanda Dykan is not Lily Ann Taylor, she's done plenty of damage to her own reputation in the past. No one needs to trash Amanda-she already did that herself.
Haven't you ever made a mistake and needed a fresh start? Last time I checked it was not a crime. Why condemn her and everyone else who are not so simple minded. Is all this worth getting so worked up over? Seems silly to me.
April 26, 2009 1:06 PM
If it seems silly to you, then move right along.
If people have been duped into buying Amanda's products under false pretenses, they have every right to know about it. And all the stores and designers who helped her do this need to be held accountable also.
If you like the products then buy it. If you don't like it, move along. Who cares who made the product. ------------------------------ You may be wired differently but I care about who I buy products from.
I try not to buy products from tobacco making companies, and I don't want to buy products from deceitful designers.
Life is just not all about me and what I want. So no, just because I like a product doesn't mean I will buy it.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
Oh, puhLeeezzzz! No way would Misty Cato have collabed with her if she'd known who it was. I doubt that any designer with half a brain would do that. They know it would be design-suicide if they got found out.
It's not hard to manufacture a new identity online. but it is impossible to back-date that persona online, as we see in the case of "LilyAnne" who has no history before March of this year
Maybe store owners need to request a scan of a drivers license or some other picture ID and a social security number (if the designer is from the States) or some other official proof of ID. Anyone can come up with any name or persona they can dream up the way things are now. asking for a credit-card that they can verify, or doing a credit check on the designer in question would put a stop to all of these cases. these steps would really only need to be taken if the designer suddenly appeared with no history, as "LilyAnne" and Ashley Olson's alter-ego did.
If LilyAnne is for real, all she would need to do is provide a scan of her drivers license to any of the store-owners or designers who she has worked with. But at this point, I think she will only be believed if she allows it to be seen by everyone. Too many conspiracy theorists will think that she's in cahoots with whatever person claims that they saw her ID.
Amanda has not done anything to deserve this CRAP! Wouldn't you want to design under over if you had to put up with this kind of stuff? THINK ABOUT IT!!
Oh, poor widdle Amanda. She has done nothing wrong.
Using designs that someone else created, (or using stock photos you have no rights to use) and calling them her own is not wrong? Bet you wouldn't think that if you were one of the people she stole from.
If I was any of the people that had worked with LilyAnne I would be asking for her to send me a scan of her drivers license or other official photo ID. If she is who she says she is, she should have no problem doing that. But I suppose even a drivers license can be altered and faked.
And yes. Amanda did it all to herself. No one made her do any of the crap she pulled.
Maybe store owners need to request a scan of a drivers license or some other picture ID and a social security number (if the designer is from the States) or some other official proof of ID. Anyone can come up with any name or persona they can dream up the way things are now. asking for a credit-card that they can verify, or doing a credit check on the designer in question would put a stop to all of these cases. --------------------- This is what should have been happening all along. You have to provide positive proof of your identity to any REAL employer, so if digi shops and designers want to be taken seriously, they need to do the same.
If people have been duped into buying Amanda's products under false pretenses, they have every right to know about it. And all the stores and designers who helped her do this need to be held accountable also.
Haven't you ever made a mistake and needed a fresh start? ---------------------------------- Yes I've made mistakes.
The first step is to admit your mistake, apologize and ask for forgiveness.
Changing a name and pretending that the mistake never happened is not the answer. That would just be adding a mistake on top of a mistake. A fresh start happens in your mind and heart not in your name or photo.
Amanda, you need to own up to your mistakes and quit trying to justify or hide from them. You are a great artist. If you combined your art with some better people skills you could go a long ways.
Be proud of yourself, hold your head high and dang it quit lying to people. To thine own self be true.
Customers have every right to know. We're the ones spending our money.
April 26, 2009 12:47 PM ------------------------------------
Why? Why do you need to know? I'm not a designer, don't even buy from them, I make my own but still!
Guess I just don't get it. Why do you need to know personal stuff about them? Don't you see something you like, purchase it and if it's quality stuff continue to purchase?
If you hear something a celebrity did in RL that you don't like do you quit seeing movies that they're in? What about clothing designers? Do you google them before you'll dare give them your $ for that pair of jeans?
If you hear something a celebrity did in RL that you don't like do you quit seeing movies that they're in? What about clothing designers? Do you google them before you'll dare give them your $ for that pair of jeans?
PLEASE!! Get real. snort!
April 26, 2009 1:42 PM
I haven't been able to watch a Mel Gibson movie and enjoy it ever since I saw his crazy rant about Jewish people.
I don't buy designer clothes or purses-I'm just not into that.
I don't knowingly support crooks and liars.
Snort all you want. Some people care where their money goes.
If you hear something a celebrity did in RL that you don't like do you quit seeing movies that they're in? ------------------------------- Actually my mom refused to watch anything with Jane Fonda in it because she didn't like her politics.
Some people do live by their conscience.
You are free to buy from who you want. As are others.
Why? Why do you need to know? I'm not a designer, don't even buy from them, I make my own but still!
Guess I just don't get it. Why do you need to know personal stuff about them? Don't you see something you like, purchase it and if it's quality stuff continue to purchase?
If you hear something a celebrity did in RL that you don't like do you quit seeing movies that they're in? What about clothing designers? Do you google them before you'll dare give them your $ for that pair of jeans?
PLEASE!! Get real. snort!
April 26, 2009 1:42 PM
Word! None of this is anyones business. I think some people just think it is their right to know everything. Designers deserve privacy just like customers do. If this was about a customer then you would all be screaming how designers and stores violated a customers privacy! Bit of a double standard dontcha think?
I don't need to know anything personal about designers. I do expect them to be honest about their identity, though.
April 26, 2009 1:52 PM
There are TONS of designers who use alter identities and you do not have a clue to who they are. Why should this be any different? Just because you got a hard on for Amanda?
Word! None of this is anyones business. I think some people just think it is their right to know everything. Designers deserve privacy just like customers do. If this was about a customer then you would all be screaming how designers and stores violated a customers privacy! Bit of a double standard dontcha think?
There are TONS of designers who use alter identities and you do not have a clue to who they are. Why should this be any different? Just because you got a hard on for Amanda?
April 26, 2009 1:56 PM
Have other designers with "alter" identities used them to cover up their reputation they earned under different identities?
If so, then yes, customers have the right to know.
Designers deserve privacy just like customers do. ^^ Then tell them to stay off the message boards, blogs, etc. and to quit putting all their personal shit out there.
Changing a name and pretending that the mistake never happened is not the answer. That would just be adding a mistake on top of a mistake. A fresh start happens in your mind and heart not in your name or photo. ^^^ True dat!
April 26, 2009 2:07 PM No, it wasn't. Unless you count the screen shot, but then Chuck Norris is Lilyanne too. You never know, he may just be a man of many skills.
Did any of the designers who collabed with her get an inkling that she might be an ass kicking ranger from Texas?
That would be so much more interesting.
Off to google what the makers of Coke do with their time before I give those people any of my money at the store. Because damn it, I have the right to know all! I am a digital scrapbooker after all.
There are TONS of designers who use alter identities and you do not have a clue to who they are. Why should this be any different? Just because you got a hard on for Amanda?
April 26, 2009 1:56 PM *********************************** Sure lots of designers sell under other identities, but those designers have never pulled the shit that Amanda has. There's a big difference in using a separate identity than there is in ripping people off, monetarily and artistically, than there is in keeping your IRL name quiet. And how many of those designers that don't design under their real names ever accused a digi scrapper of trying to shoot her for crying out loud?
Was it ever even proven that Amanda Dykan is Lily Ann Taylor??
April 26, 2009 2:07 PM
Why don't you just worry about yourself and let the people who are involved in this mess sort it out. It is NOT about YOU!
Off to google what the makers of Coke do with their time before I give those people any of my money at the store. Because damn it, I have the right to know all! I am a digital scrapbooker after all.
Ever think that maybe that is one of the reasons she had to design under a new name?
April 26, 2009 2:26 PM *********************************** Well dammit, never thought about it that way. So that means that the would-be-psycho-wanna-be-killer-stalker-gun wielding digi scrapper is still out there and might try to take her out again, unless she designs under an alias? Yep sure don't understand why the rest of us didn't see it from that angle.
I have worked with Misty Cato and I can assure you she is neither in cahoots or stupid.
It is unfortunate that it happened, especially to Misty, but it did. From what I can see the designs were pulled from the stores just as soon as anything was suspected.
Misty is one of the nicest most honorable people. If you take a look at her history you will recognize that she stays out of the drama...always. Name one Misty Cato drama ever...there are none.
I can't imagine why Misty would collab with a brand new, unknown designer when they are only allowed X number of outside collabs a year. It just seems VERY WEIRD.
I can't imagine why Misty would collab with a brand new, unknown designer when they are only allowed X number of outside collabs a year. It just seems VERY WEIRD.
Amanda and other designers trying to get my money under false pretenses certainly is about me. My money-my business.
April 26, 2009 2:33 PM
They did not purposely set out to fool anyone. They do not need to inform you of anything they do that does not directly affect the quality of the items. When you go buy clothes do you need to know the clothing designers business because it is your money your spending? Lol Blithering FOOL!
Ever think that maybe that is one of the reasons she had to design under a new name?
Oh GAWD, that is something that ONLY AD would be dumb {or crazy} enough to say, and think we wouldn't see right through it. Just another example of her trying to justify her lies.
*********************************** Well dammit, never thought about it that way. So that means that the would-be-psycho-wanna-be-killer-stalker-gun wielding digi scrapper is still out there and might try to take her out again, unless she designs under an alias? Yep sure don't understand why the rest of us didn't see it from that angle.
LMAO!
Store-owners, beware. Because no doubt Amanda will try again at some point in the future. She's probably cooking up a new identity even now, only this time she'll take her time... show up as a scrapper, try to make herself get noticed as a new up-and-coming design star, and then start to try to work her way in to unsuspecting stores, and doing collabs with unsuspecting designers... Be careful store-owners and designers. She WILL try again.
They did not purposely set out to fool anyone. They do not need to inform you of anything they do that does not directly affect the quality of the items. When you go buy clothes do you need to know the clothing designers business because it is your money your spending? Lol Blithering FOOL!
April 26, 2009 3:04 PM
Call me anything you want if it makes you feel better.
If they ever want to see another dime of my money, they need to exonerate themselves.
This latest stunt is just about enough to make me stop spending for a good long time. I need to use my stash anyway and quit ennabling all this bad behavior.
I am constantly amazed at the stupidity and unprofessionalism of designers and store owners.
Amanda didn't even have a teensy bit of trouble pulling this one off, did she?
April 26, 2009 3:13 PM
Can you people please lighten up just a little bit and let the people involved work this out. There is enough people being hurt by all this without you adding fuel to the fire and bringing in store owners and designers.
Can you people please lighten up just a little bit and let the people involved work this out. There is enough people being hurt by all this without you adding fuel to the fire and bringing in store owners and designers.
April 26, 2009 3:22 PM
Can you just lighten up and let people discuss what they want?
If store owners and designers had been even a little bit careful or cautious in the first place, no one would be hurt.
You really need to quit telling customers they can't have opinions
I hate to see Misty Cato's name get dragged into this. I can not think of one single designer with more integrity than Misty, and I do not believe for a second that she knew who "LilyAnne" really was. Misty has a great reputation because she has earned it, and the fact that she was duped by a liar doesn't change that.
You really need to quit telling customers they can't have opinions
April 26, 2009 3:28 PM
The only people who read this blog is customers? Here we go again with the customer/designer war! I know lots of designers and store owners that read this blog as well as customers. Bottom line is, we are all just people. I do not see why the need to label everyone. :(
I hate to see Misty Cato's name get dragged into this. I can not think of one single designer with more integrity than Misty, and I do not believe for a second that she knew who "LilyAnne" really was. Misty has a great reputation because she has earned it, and the fact that she was duped by a liar doesn't change that.
April 26, 2009 3:36 PM
I totally agree and same goes for Bren too! You people continue on with your fish fry. I'm outta here.
I sell at either ES or SO, I'm not saying which one. But, LilyAnne did not leave SO herself, she was kicked out. Then, as far as I know, her store at ES was shut off due to the accusations as well.
I don't think we'll ever know the truth. And really I could care less. Any of these kooky designers could end up designing for a paper company and I'll buy their stuff without even knowing it.
ROFL - so some 'supposed' designer comes in and cites some BS they think they know (which they are wrong about anyway), and you believe it and run off in a bit of a tither and say I'm going to take my toys home and go play?
ROFL - so some 'supposed' designer comes in and cites some BS they think they know (which they are wrong about anyway), and you believe it and run off in a bit of a tither and say I'm going to take my toys home and go play?
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I'm not a "supposed" designer, I do sell at one of these stores. I will also say that LilyAnne was kicked out of SO for something completely different than being accused of being Amanda Dykan. Do I know exactly what? No, I don't. But that is what I was told where I sell (which is SO, who cares if you know I guess. This whole Amanda Dykan thing popped up at the same time she was being accused for something else.
LilyAnne was kicked out of SO for something completely different than being accused of being Amanda Dykan. Do I know exactly what? No, I don't. But that is what I was told where I sell (which is SO, who cares if you know I guess. This whole Amanda Dykan thing popped up at the same time she was being accused for something else.
so if she was kicked out of SO, why can't they just be honest about and say they asked her to leave?
They're just helping Amanda/Lily get away with more if they know the facts and don't say something.
This is exactly why I'm just so sick of it all. All the secrecy and covering up and then they just turn around and do it all again.
I agree. It doesn't mean I won't continue to shop and buy digikits, but it does mean I won't be giving any business to shops who are not willing to be honest and forthright, and have full disclosure when they know about a thief or liar that I may have bought from... and who may also have my personal information because of that! If they're not willing to let others know who to be careful about, then I do not think they have their customers best interests at heart, and I will not be comfortable doing business there anymore.
Now anyone who has purchased anything from "LilyAnne" has something else to worry about - like what could be done with their personal information!
I hope that whatever else she is being accused of will be disclosed as well, seeing the woman has people's private information!
Considering that the only personal information she might have is what you volunteered to give, don't blame SO that she might have info on you. YOU gave it to her. You can just as easily sign up with false info to protect yourself, don't blame them.
I hope that whatever else she is being accused of will be disclosed as well, seeing the woman has people's private information!
April 26, 2009 4:16 PM *********************************** Nah, will never happen because, after all, why do we as customers have any right to expect to know anything?
They would only have to let you know if she is suspected of doing anything with that personal information. Highly unlikely that's what's going on. She doesn't have your credit card numbers. The sky is not falling.
Even then you do have to consider it. Everywhere you go you can't assume that every store owner knows everything about their designers. Don't enter in your personal information. It's your responsibility to protect yourself.
I have to agree with all the drama and trouble coming out of SO. I hope that the few decent designers they have will find a more reputable place to sell :(
Word! None of this is anyones business. I think some people just think it is their right to know everything. Designers deserve privacy just like customers do. If this was about a customer then you would all be screaming how designers and stores violated a customers privacy! Bit of a double standard dontcha think?
April 26, 2009 1:52 PM
No. I'm not trying to get your money.
April 26, 2009 1:57 PM ----------------------------------
The designer isn't out to "get your money" not in that sense anyway. She's made a product that she would like to have you purchase. If you like it you buy it, if not, don't buy! It's not like they're asking for donations. ----------------------------------
Designers deserve privacy just like customers do. ^^ Then tell them to stay off the message boards, blogs, etc. and to quit putting all their personal shit out there.
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I agree to a degree with this. IMO designers need to be "personal" to a extent. People want that. You probably know as well as I do if a designer doesn't get involved in the community they get 9 kinds of shit over it! However I think there should be a limit. They are still running a business and need to watch just how personal they get in public.
It's a shame really. If they're making a quality product who the hell cares what name they're using or where they're from or how long they've been in the digi-world? As long as the customer gets what they paid for and gets support when needed then I could care less what the designer's alter identity is!
They did not purposely set out to fool anyone. They do not need to inform you of anything they do that does not directly affect the quality of the items. When you go buy clothes do you need to know the clothing designers business because it is your money your spending? Lol Blithering FOOL! --------------------------------- I'd be careful of who you call a fool. Somewhere I heard that only a fool calls other people fools.
Most of us are conversing about this subject without out resorting to calling anyone names.
I'd be careful of who you call a fool. Somewhere I heard that only a fool calls other people fools.
Most of us are conversing about this subject without out resorting to calling anyone names.
April 26, 2009 4:51 PM
Hmm, resorting to childish threats now eh? I am scared now. Not! Grow the hell up! You must be new to this damn blog or you would beable to see much worse then "fool" around here. Doh!
I hate to see Misty Cato's name get dragged into this. I can not think of one single designer with more integrity than Misty, and I do not believe for a second that she knew who "LilyAnne" really was. Misty has a great reputation because she has earned it, and the fact that she was duped by a liar doesn't change that.
April 26, 2009 3:36 PM
I totally agree and same goes for Bren too! You people continue on with your fish fry. I'm outta here.
April 26, 2009 3:41 PM
Oh puhleez people! We are suppose to believe that these designers collabed with someone they did not even know, and who just popped on the scene a month ago.. without knowing who they are working with!! Are they that stupid or do they think we are that stupid to by that load of bs. This stinks to high heaven and back. Can they get anymore deceitful? Never mind, I know that is a rhetorical question.
I'd be careful of who you call a fool. Somewhere I heard that only a fool calls other people fools.
Most of us are conversing about this subject without out resorting to calling anyone names.
April 26, 2009 4:51 PM
Hmm, resorting to childish threats now eh? I am scared now. Not! Grow the hell up! You must be new to this damn blog or you would be able to see much worse then "fool" around here. Doh! ----------------------------- I am not new to this blog and I do not see how you perceive any kind of threat by what I said.
I think name calling is immature and unproductive. I am entitled to that opinion.
Oh puhleez people! We are suppose to believe that these designers collabed with someone they did not even know, and who just popped on the scene a month ago.. without knowing who they are working with!! Are they that stupid or do they think we are that stupid to by that load of bs. This stinks to high heaven and back. Can they get anymore deceitful? Never mind, I know that is a rhetorical question.
Nobody is gonna give YOU any proof because it does not concern you. It will be handled as seen fit and not played out on a smack blog for all to view. Trying to be Perry Mason?
Unfortunately sometimes once the circumstantial evidence is strong enough the burden goes to the accused to prove themselves innocent. ^^^ What a load of crap. All you designers and store owners use this blog as your private dumping ground to try and discredit each other. You're not fooling near the number of people that you think you are.
Nobody is gonna give YOU any proof because it does not concern you. It will be handled as seen fit and not played out on a smack blog for all to view. Trying to be Perry Mason?
What a load of crap. All you designers and store owners use this blog as your private dumping ground to try and discredit each other. You're not fooling near the number of people that you think you are.
April 26, 2009 5:26 PM
All you customers use it to whine and cry all the time. All the while screaming that you are owed everything under the sun.
Nobody is gonna give YOU any proof because it does not concern you. It will be handled as seen fit and not played out on a smack blog for all to view. Trying to be Perry Mason?
April 26, 2009 5:26 PM
This doesn't concern you, so why are you posting about it?
Unfortunately sometimes once the circumstantial evidence is strong enough the burden goes to the accused to prove themselves innocent. ^^^ What a load of crap. All you designers and store owners use this blog as your private dumping ground to try and discredit each other. You're not fooling near the number of people that you think you are.
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hmmm I posted that and I am not a designer so I don't know where all that came from.
I was just pointing out that no there is no proof but many circumstantial issues have been discussed that I wish would be clarified.
If the powers that be don't want to clarify anything that is their prerogative.
Looks like you're the one that doesn't know the digi community. Stores like SO and SP don't just take on any new designer that pops up.
The fact that this designer hopped into those two stores so quickly without any background or history is fishy.
And knowing the digi community like I do, I find it hard to believe that all those designers that did collabs with her didn't know what was going on.
April 26, 2009 12:09 PM
Yes. This is exactly what is bothering me as well. You do not come on the scene and a month later do collabs with several designers without them knowing who you are. What rubbish. Makes absolutely zero sense what so ever. This just keeps on getting crazier and crazier by the moment. Pass the popcorn.
Yes. This is exactly what is bothering me as well. You do not come on the scene and a month later do collabs with several designers without them knowing who you are. What rubbish. Makes absolutely zero sense what so ever. This just keeps on getting crazier and crazier by the moment. Pass the popcorn.
April 26, 2009 5:41 PM
Amen sister!
Something's not right, and all the deflecting in the world isn't going to change it.
Nobody is gonna give YOU any proof because it does not concern you. It will be handled as seen fit and not played out on a smack blog for all to view. Trying to be Perry Mason?
Promise? I love it when you babies take your toys elsewhere to go play. Gives us sane people a little time to breath before you come slithering back.
All you customers use it to whine and cry all the time. All the while screaming that you are owed everything under the sun.
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I'm glad you don't care if I leave. But I can promise you that I will not come slithering back.
Hmmm...now where should I not be coming back to...SO or SP??
I'm calling BS that Lily Anne wasn't kicked out over the whole Amanda thing.
And on a SO designer posting here about it all-they are far too professional for that.
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I'm the designer from SO that posted earlier, how do you know we don't read here? I read here, and I know of 2 other designers I talk to at SO that read here.
I'm not saying that she wasn't kicked out over the accusations of being Amanda Dykan, however, I'm saying I was told it was for something unrelated to that.
She's Amanda She's not Amanda It's none of our business who she is The designers knew The designers didn't know The customers don't like the designers The designers don't like the customers We should buy from unethical designers if the produce a good product We should have social conscience about who we buy from
It's an interesting world and we all have interesting opinions. I have not had this much fun in ages. The drama is fascinating.
Where are the personal posts? Has she been participating at other sites? I don't know any designers that just jumped into the biz with all these kits already created and have had absolutely no exposure on any of the forums. ----------
Christina Renee for one. She doesn't scrap, had no pages but she appeared at FPD when it first started, a place everyone wanted to be. It happens.
I think even CR had some posts at DST before she jumped right into designing. Honestly, I don't care enough to go and check out something from that long ago.
Also, CR may have been flaky, but she never lied and did the things Amanda has done.
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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She has her own store too. Maybe that is now her base and she's going to guest at other stores.
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I'll ask again:
Where is her own store?
Yes I know she has kits at Shabby Pickle. I'm not asking about that. I am asking about the store you have now mentioned twice.
I think the attacks on MB are probably coming from AD. She sees it as revenge. because it was MB who originally said that AD had plagiarized her. And now AD has ~~almost~~ successfully taken the attention off of herself, albeit temporarily.
April 26, 2009 11:18 AM
ITA.
Regardless if the screenshot is real or fake I looked at her store at SPD and her products do look very much like Amanda's. Amanda did glitter stlyes exactly like the ones that Lilyanne has at SPD. The doodles too. I am on the fence about this mess but if it is true, then the person who outted her is not the issue. The fact that crazy Amanda might be fooling the community is the problem I have. It does seem pretty fishy though.
Who runs iScrapbook?
Amanda Dykan is selling stuff there.
because it was MB who originally said that AD had plagiarized her.
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or was it?
Amanda Dykan and Melissa Bennett are both psychopathic designers who I avoid at all costs. Why the big fuss over a couple of women who constantly forget to take their meds? LilyAnne is Amanda Dykan, who wanted a fresh start from being busted for copyright infringement amongst many other things and Melissa Bennett feels the need to out her publically. Thats it gals, end of story! Big FREAKIN deal!
it sure would be nice to have someone offer up some proof instead of just flinging out all these accusations
LilyAnne is Amanda Dykan, who wanted a fresh start from being busted for copyright infringement amongst many other things
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Can you please explain how you are so sure of this?
If it's true, then it's just CRAZY that so many of the same designers collabed with her again.
Speaking of MB, I liked her designs a lot better before she went to SSD.
LilyAnne is Amanda Dykan, who wanted a fresh start from being busted for copyright infringement amongst many other things and Melissa Bennett feels the need to out her publically.
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IF this is true, I can certainly see why Melissa Bennett would want to out her publicly. Pulling an Ashley Olsen is just not cool.
I think the attacks on MB are probably coming from AD. She sees it as revenge. because it was MB who originally said that AD had plagiarized her. And now AD has ~~almost~~ successfully taken the attention off of herself, albeit temporarily.
April 26, 2009 11:18 AM
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I'm NOT AD. Good try though.
I just know that MB is involved in a lot of the drama. Somehow she usualy gets someone else to do the dirtywork.
Amanda did glitter stlyes exactly like the ones that Lilyanne has at SPD.
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So does about every designer!
it sure would be nice to have someone offer up some proof instead of just flinging out all these accusations
April 26, 2009 11:39 AM
True dat.
blog owner, we need new SPACE!
please
I'm NOT AD. Good try though.
Riiiiiiight... Sounds exactly like something AD would say. ;)
This whole LilyAnne Taylor thing is weird.
What brand new designer hops to 3 different stores in less than 2 months?
because it was MB who originally said that AD had plagiarized her.
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I don't believe this.
Sweet baby Jesus-every time Amanda Dykan's name is brought up, the crazy factor shoots through the roof. That right there should tell you something.
Wasn't it Zoe Pearn who said that AD had plaigerized her?
This whole LilyAnne Taylor thing is weird.
What brand new designer hops to 3 different stores in less than 2 months?
April 26, 2009 11:52 AMExactly, and comes out of nowhere. Don't most new designers start by hanging out, posting, getting their name out in the community, start with a freebie here and there for people to get a feel of what they have to offer? Not just all of sudden appearing, in established stores, with all kinds of kits and stuff ready to go. So she's just what? Been sitting in the background designing and all of a sudden you have well-known, established stores read to take her on? Nope, I'm with some of the others here, I'm calling bullshit on this.
April 26, 2009 11:55 AM
I thought it was MB who brought the whole Zoe thing to light also. MB's so helpful. Never would clip something to something just to fake evidence.
What brand new designer hops to 3 different stores in less than 2 months?
April 26, 2009 11:52 AM
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one that doesn't know the digi community!
Are designers really stupid enough to do collab kits with other designers that they know NOTHING about?
After all the Joedees, Tandikas, Ashley Olsens, Amanda Dykans, etc. I would hope not.
But sadly, it looks like I overestimated their intelligence.
April 26, 2009 12:00 PM
Wouldn't all the store owners be in on it then? They are the ones taking on this new designer. They must all be in on the alter ego too! *GASP*
ROFLMAO my verification is rehirus. To perfect for my sarcasm - re-hire-us
I thought it was MB who brought the whole Zoe thing to light also. MB's so helpful. Never would clip something to something just to fake evidence.
April 26, 2009 12:03 PM
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Omg! Amanda, grow the hell up! You got busted, now just deal with it PSYCHO!!
April 26, 2009 12:04 PM
Looks like you're the one that doesn't know the digi community. Stores like SO and SP don't just take on any new designer that pops up.
The fact that this designer hopped into those two stores so quickly without any background or history is fishy.
And knowing the digi community like I do, I find it hard to believe that all those designers that did collabs with her didn't know what was going on.
And knowing the digi community like I do, I find it hard to believe that all those designers that did collabs with her didn't know what was going on.
April 26, 2009 12:09 PM
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Such an insightful statement, sad but very insightful indeed. I can't imagine any of the designers that have done the collabs with her just took a brand new designer and decided, out of the goodness of their hearts, to do a collab with her. Puhlease.
I thought it was MB who brought the whole Zoe thing to light also.
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I thought it was Zoe who brought up the whole stock photo thing?
Are designers really stupid enough to do collab kits with other designers that they know NOTHING about?
After all the Joedees, Tandikas, Ashley Olsens, Amanda Dykans, etc. I would hope not.
But sadly, it looks like I overestimated their intelligence.
April 26, 2009 12:06 PM
They would all have you believe that they're just sweet and naive and oh-so-helpful to new designers.
It's not true.
This whole Lily Anne thing reeks of a jealous designer trying to discredit her.
Why would the designers knowingly collab with LilyAnne if they knew she was Amanda. That just seems so weird. But I guess no weirder than collabing with a total unknown.
Something strange in the neighbor hood....who ya gonna call...dsthof of course...
BTW, is this being discussed on any of the other smack blogs (if there are any left)??
I thought it was MB who brought the whole Zoe thing to light also. MB's so helpful. Never would clip something to something just to fake evidence.
Well, Helllloooooooooo, Amanda!
And knowing the digi community like I do, I find it hard to believe that all those designers that did collabs with her didn't know what was going on.
April 26, 2009 12:09 PM
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
Nope, still not Amanda. Sorry!
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
April 26, 2009 12:21 PM
No.
If they knowingly did collabs with "Lily Ann Taylor" and tried to pull one over on their customers that's just beyond wrong.
If Bren Boone and Faith True and Misty Cato are that sneaky, I want to know about it.
If the store owners at Scrap Orchard and Shabby Pickly are willing to deceive their customers like this, their customers have every right to know.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
April 26, 2009 12:21 PM
Are you freakin' nuts??
So this was all a big coordinated effort to give Amanda Dykan another chance and you want people to leave it alone? Good luck with that!
proof please. come on and pony up!
"They would all have you believe that they're just sweet and naive and oh-so-helpful to new designers.
It's not true."
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"Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be."
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Some of us designers honestly didn't know and quite frankly I still don't know if it's true or not. I saw a fresh new face on the design scene, I liked her work, I asked to do a collab with her and that's basically it. Whether or not what is being said about her is true or not, it has absolutely nothing to do with me and that's the way I want it to remain.
I think it's unfortunate for her if all of this is untrue. But if it is true I think it's very deceptive, underhanded and trifling.
I really hate that it happened either way it goes.
Please don't generalize and add me (or any other designer) to whatever speculations you all are making here. Some of us were none the wiser and still are.
What a shame for her.
"Why would the designers knowingly collab with LilyAnne if they knew she was Amanda. That just seems so weird."
exactly... why would all these designers waste their time making kits that are just gonna get pulled off the market a few weeks later? no... i don't see how they could have known in the first place, since no one really seems to know, and why they would risk their reputations.... and waste their time doing a collaboration with her.
If Bren Boone and Faith True and Misty Cato are that sneaky, I want to know about it.
April 26, 2009 12:28 PM
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Why does everyone think they need to be in the "know" about everything? Designers and store owners do not need to inform the public about every little thing that goes on. This is suppose to be a fun hobby for scrappers to enjoy. How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
April 26, 2009 12:21 PM
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You're kidding right? Amanda was wrongly accused? That's probably the most laughable thing I've read on here yet. The woman is freakin' lunatic, everyone knows she's a lunatic, and these well-known, established designers want her to be able to have a fresh start? Why? Why would any of them take that chance? I just don't get it, makes no sense whatsoever.
WV = supind, pretty damned close to stupid huh?
so why don't the troublemakers who started all this in the first place come back and show some proof?
Because there is none.
Someone is just gunning for LilyAnne and Melissa.
Bren is right-this is shame no matter how it turns out.
If Lily Anne is innocent, she has been dragged all through the mud just for spite. It has happened to plenty of other designers.
If Lily Anne is Amanda Dykan, then that's a bad situation, too.
Whoever started all this needs to stop.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
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Why should anyone let it be?
If it is true that the designers were trying to help Amanda, they made an error in judgment.
First, with the digi police out there how could they think they would get away with it.
Second, As we all know, us consumers do not like being deceived.
Third, Amanda had many other problems going on in addition to the last accusation. Seriously, why help someone like Amanda yet totally condemn someone like Tandika.
Fourth, if this becomes public knowledge those designers may lose a certain percentage of their customer base.
I do think something fishy is going on. But, I'm still not convinced that LilyAnne is Amanda. I am not willing to condemn someone based on what little evidence has been presented.
Why does everyone think they need to be in the "know" about everything? Designers and store owners do not need to inform the public about every little thing that goes on. This is suppose to be a fun hobby for scrappers to enjoy. How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
April 26, 2009 12:39 PM
If someone is lying and playing games in order to get my money, it's absolutely my business.
If store owners and designers want people to do nothing but shut up and shop, they need to do nothing but shut up and design and conduct business. Stay off the forums and the blogs and stop pretending to be friends with everyone if all you want is their money.
Why does everyone think they need to be in the "know" about everything? Designers and store owners do not need to inform the public about every little thing that goes on. This is suppose to be a fun hobby for scrappers to enjoy. How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
April 26, 2009 12:39 PM
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Okay so maybe we don't need to be in the know about everything, but as a customer spending my hard-earned money I don't want it going to someone like Amanda Dykan. So yes, in this instance customers have every freakin' right to know, and to question what the hell is going on. Don't tell me to get a life, don't tell me what I do and don't need to know. I spend plenty of money on digi stuff, and I want to know who it's going to.
How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
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LOL What do you think this blog is all about?
Customers have every right to know. We're the ones spending our money.
Why does everyone think they need to be in the "know" about everything? Designers and store owners do not need to inform the public about every little thing that goes on. This is suppose to be a fun hobby for scrappers to enjoy. How is any of this anyones BUSINESS?? You all really need to get lives and leave everyone else alone.
April 26, 2009 12:39 PM
As long as designers and store owners keep playing these games, it IS everyone's business!
I guess honesty in BUSINESS is just too much to ask for in the digi world.
If Lily Anne is innocent, she has been dragged all through the mud just for spite.
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She has not been dragged through the mud. She has been dragged through this little blog that the majority of digi scrappers know nothing about.
And if nothing else, seriously there is some speculation as to her quick entrance into the digi scrap world and her sudden disappearance of kits from Scrap Orchard.
Whoever started all this needs to stop.
April 26, 2009 12:43 PM
I agree! It's nobody's business. Leave Amanda alone!
proof. We need proof.
I agree! It's nobody's business. Leave Amanda alone!
April 26, 2009 12:51 PM
Amanda is not the one that people need to leave alone.
Why DID those kits disappear from Scrap Orchard?
I spend plenty of money on digi stuff, and I want to know who it's going to.
April 26, 2009 12:46 PM
If you like the products then buy it. If you don't like it, move along. Who cares who made the product. Amanda has not done anything to deserve this CRAP! Wouldn't you want to design under over if you had to put up with this kind of stuff? THINK ABOUT IT!!
She has not been dragged through the mud. She has been dragged through this little blog that the majority of digi scrappers know nothing about.
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@@ Yeah right.
If you like the products then buy it. If you don't like it, move along. Who cares who made the product. Amanda has not done anything to deserve this CRAP! Wouldn't you want to design under over if you had to put up with this kind of stuff? THINK ABOUT IT!!
April 26, 2009 12:57 PM
STFU. Amanda has no one but herself to blame. No one made her tell that crazy shooting story. No one made her rip off her bud club customers. No one made her pay her designers late. No one made her steal from stock photo sites. And no one made her take on alternate identity.
The only thing that the alternate identity does is make her look GUILTY AS HELL.
If you like the products then buy it. If you don't like it, move along. Who cares who made the product. Amanda has not done anything to deserve this CRAP! Wouldn't you want to design under over if you had to put up with this kind of stuff? THINK ABOUT IT!!
April 26, 2009 12:57 PM
There's no way I'm going to buy products if they're from a known plagierizer and thief.
If Amanda has been designing under a fake name, customers have every right to know that.
And I hope that the person whose picture she is using will take action against her.
There are some very eeire similarities between Amanda and LilyAnne:
1. They both are good artists
2. They both are good graphic designers
3. They are both into doing collab kits
4. They both seem to jump around not seeming able to find a place in the digi community to stay put and develop
5. They both seem too busy to maintain their blogs
But then maybe these traits can be applied to many designers.
Who cares who made the product.
April 26, 2009 12:57 PM
Some do care. Those who do are entitled to know who made it.
STFU. Amanda has no one but herself to blame. No one made her tell that crazy shooting story. No one made her rip off her bud club customers. No one made her pay her designers late. No one made her steal from stock photo sites. And no one made her take on alternate identity.
The only thing that the alternate identity does is make her look GUILTY AS HELL.
April 26, 2009 1:00 PM
Haven't you ever made a mistake and needed a fresh start? Last time I checked it was not a crime. Why condemn her and everyone else who are not so simple minded. Is all this worth getting so worked up over? Seems silly to me.
STFU. Amanda has no one but herself to blame. No one made her tell that crazy shooting story. No one made her rip off her bud club customers. No one made her pay her designers late. No one made her steal from stock photo sites.
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I have to agree with all of this.
Even if Amanda Dykan is not Lily Ann Taylor, she's done plenty of damage to her own reputation in the past. No one needs to trash Amanda-she already did that herself.
And I hope that the person whose picture she is using will take action against her.
April 26, 2009 1:02 PM
Did you ever stop to think that she has permission to use that photo?
Haven't you ever made a mistake and needed a fresh start? Last time I checked it was not a crime. Why condemn her and everyone else who are not so simple minded. Is all this worth getting so worked up over? Seems silly to me.
April 26, 2009 1:06 PM
If it seems silly to you, then move right along.
If people have been duped into buying Amanda's products under false pretenses, they have every right to know about it. And all the stores and designers who helped her do this need to be held accountable also.
If you like the products then buy it. If you don't like it, move along. Who cares who made the product.
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You may be wired differently but I care about who I buy products from.
I try not to buy products from tobacco making companies, and I don't want to buy products from deceitful designers.
Life is just not all about me and what I want. So no, just because I like a product doesn't mean I will buy it.
Faith and the others that did collabs were trying to help Amanda as they believed she was wrongly accused and needed a fresh start. Let's just all move on now. Let it be.
Oh, puhLeeezzzz! No way would Misty Cato have collabed with her if she'd known who it was. I doubt that any designer with half a brain would do that. They know it would be design-suicide if they got found out.
It's not hard to manufacture a new identity online. but it is impossible to back-date that persona online, as we see in the case of "LilyAnne" who has no history before March of this year
Maybe store owners need to request a scan of a drivers license or some other picture ID and a social security number (if the designer is from the States) or some other official proof of ID. Anyone can come up with any name or persona they can dream up the way things are now. asking for a credit-card that they can verify, or doing a credit check on the designer in question would put a stop to all of these cases. these steps would really only need to be taken if the designer suddenly appeared with no history, as "LilyAnne" and Ashley Olson's alter-ego did.
If LilyAnne is for real, all she would need to do is provide a scan of her drivers license to any of the store-owners or designers who she has worked with. But at this point, I think she will only be believed if she allows it to be seen by everyone. Too many conspiracy theorists will think that she's in cahoots with whatever person claims that they saw her ID.
Amanda has not done anything to deserve this CRAP! Wouldn't you want to design under over if you had to put up with this kind of stuff? THINK ABOUT IT!!
Oh, poor widdle Amanda. She has done nothing wrong.
Using designs that someone else created, (or using stock photos you have no rights to use) and calling them her own is not wrong? Bet you wouldn't think that if you were one of the people she stole from.
If I was any of the people that had worked with LilyAnne I would be asking for her to send me a scan of her drivers license or other official photo ID. If she is who she says she is, she should have no problem doing that. But I suppose even a drivers license can be altered and faked.
And yes. Amanda did it all to herself. No one made her do any of the crap she pulled.
Did you ever stop to think that she has permission to use that photo?
April 26, 2009 1:08 PM
Shut up Amanda. Seriously. You're just digging your hole deeper and deeper.
Get some help before you hurt someone.
Maybe store owners need to request a scan of a drivers license or some other picture ID and a social security number (if the designer is from the States) or some other official proof of ID. Anyone can come up with any name or persona they can dream up the way things are now. asking for a credit-card that they can verify, or doing a credit check on the designer in question would put a stop to all of these cases.
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This is what should have been happening all along. You have to provide positive proof of your identity to any REAL employer, so if digi shops and designers want to be taken seriously, they need to do the same.
If people have been duped into buying Amanda's products under false pretenses, they have every right to know about it. And all the stores and designers who helped her do this need to be held accountable also.
April 26, 2009 1:09 PM
ITA.
Did you ever stop to think that she has permission to use that photo?
April 26, 2009 1:08 PM
ROFLMAO!!
No. Since Amanda is a proven thief and liar, it did NOT occur to me that she would pretend to be someone else while using a picture with permission.
This has GOT to be you, Amanda. Only you would post something this crazy.
Haven't you ever made a mistake and needed a fresh start?
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Yes I've made mistakes.
The first step is to admit your mistake, apologize and ask for forgiveness.
Changing a name and pretending that the mistake never happened is not the answer. That would just be adding a mistake on top of a mistake. A fresh start happens in your mind and heart not in your name or photo.
Amanda, you need to own up to your mistakes and quit trying to justify or hide from them. You are a great artist. If you combined your art with some better people skills you could go a long ways.
Be proud of yourself, hold your head high and dang it quit lying to people. To thine own self be true.
Customers have every right to know. We're the ones spending our money.
April 26, 2009 12:47 PM
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Why? Why do you need to know? I'm not a designer, don't even buy from them, I make my own but still!
Guess I just don't get it. Why do you need to know personal stuff about them? Don't you see something you like, purchase it and if it's quality stuff continue to purchase?
If you hear something a celebrity did in RL that you don't like do you quit seeing movies that they're in? What about clothing designers? Do you google them before you'll dare give them your $ for that pair of jeans?
PLEASE!! Get real. snort!
If you hear something a celebrity did in RL that you don't like do you quit seeing movies that they're in? What about clothing designers? Do you google them before you'll dare give them your $ for that pair of jeans?
PLEASE!! Get real. snort!
April 26, 2009 1:42 PM
I haven't been able to watch a Mel Gibson movie and enjoy it ever since I saw his crazy rant about Jewish people.
I don't buy designer clothes or purses-I'm just not into that.
I don't knowingly support crooks and liars.
Snort all you want. Some people care where their money goes.
Amanda is a crazy liar, and all those designers who helped her pull off this Lily Anne Taylor thing are just as bad as she is.
If you hear something a celebrity did in RL that you don't like do you quit seeing movies that they're in?
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Actually my mom refused to watch anything with Jane Fonda in it because she didn't like her politics.
Some people do live by their conscience.
You are free to buy from who you want. As are others.
Guess I just don't get it. Why do you need to know personal stuff about them?
April 26, 2009 1:42 PM
I don't need to know anything personal about designers. I do expect them to be honest about their identity, though.
Why? Why do you need to know? I'm not a designer, don't even buy from them, I make my own but still!
Guess I just don't get it. Why do you need to know personal stuff about them? Don't you see something you like, purchase it and if it's quality stuff continue to purchase?
If you hear something a celebrity did in RL that you don't like do you quit seeing movies that they're in? What about clothing designers? Do you google them before you'll dare give them your $ for that pair of jeans?
PLEASE!! Get real. snort!
April 26, 2009 1:42 PM
Word! None of this is anyones business. I think some people just think it is their right to know everything. Designers deserve privacy just like customers do. If this was about a customer then you would all be screaming how designers and stores violated a customers privacy! Bit of a double standard dontcha think?
I don't need to know anything personal about designers. I do expect them to be honest about their identity, though.
April 26, 2009 1:52 PM
There are TONS of designers who use alter identities and you do not have a clue to who they are. Why should this be any different? Just because you got a hard on for Amanda?
Word! None of this is anyones business. I think some people just think it is their right to know everything. Designers deserve privacy just like customers do. If this was about a customer then you would all be screaming how designers and stores violated a customers privacy! Bit of a double standard dontcha think?
April 26, 2009 1:52 PM
No. I'm not trying to get your money.
CUSTOMERS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO KNOW WHERE THEIR MONEY IS GOING.
IF AMANDA DYKAN IS POSING AS SOMEONE ELSE, PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW THAT.
There are TONS of designers who use alter identities and you do not have a clue to who they are. Why should this be any different? Just because you got a hard on for Amanda?
April 26, 2009 1:56 PM
Have other designers with "alter" identities used them to cover up their reputation they earned under different identities?
If so, then yes, customers have the right to know.
Amanda is not a victim. Not at all.
Designers deserve privacy just like customers do.
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Then tell them to stay off the message boards, blogs, etc. and to quit putting all their personal shit out there.
Changing a name and pretending that the mistake never happened is not the answer. That would just be adding a mistake on top of a mistake. A fresh start happens in your mind and heart not in your name or photo.
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True dat!
I almost think I'd rather see vengeful bitch MB go down than AD. Although... it's close. Maybe we'll get us a two-fer!
Was it ever even proven that Amanda Dykan is Lily Ann Taylor??
Amanda has only herself to blame.
That's got to be hell.
No, duh, it's not her fault. It's whoever outted her that is to blame!
S-P-A-C-E pleeeease!
There is nothing wrong with this space. Quit your bitching.
I almost think I'd rather see vengeful bitch MB go down than AD. Although... it's close. Maybe we'll get us a two-fer!
April 26, 2009 2:07 PM
Nice try, Sparky, but it isn't going to happen.
S-P-A-C-E pleeeease!
April 26, 2009 2:13 PM
Is there a limit on the amount of comments there can be that I don't know about?
What does it matter if the post is here or a new one is started?
Space. Now. Please.
April 26, 2009 2:07 PM
No, it wasn't. Unless you count the screen shot, but then Chuck Norris is Lilyanne too. You never know, he may just be a man of many skills.
Did any of the designers who collabed with her get an inkling that she might be an ass kicking ranger from Texas?
That would be so much more interesting.
Off to google what the makers of Coke do with their time before I give those people any of my money at the store. Because damn it, I have the right to know all! I am a digital scrapbooker after all.
There are TONS of designers who use alter identities and you do not have a clue to who they are. Why should this be any different? Just because you got a hard on for Amanda?
April 26, 2009 1:56 PM
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Sure lots of designers sell under other identities, but those designers have never pulled the shit that Amanda has. There's a big difference in using a separate identity than there is in ripping people off, monetarily and artistically, than there is in keeping your IRL name quiet. And how many of those designers that don't design under their real names ever accused a digi scrapper of trying to shoot her for crying out loud?
Was it ever even proven that Amanda Dykan is Lily Ann Taylor??
April 26, 2009 2:07 PM
Why don't you just worry about yourself and let the people who are involved in this mess sort it out. It is NOT about YOU!
Off to google what the makers of Coke do with their time before I give those people any of my money at the store. Because damn it, I have the right to know all! I am a digital scrapbooker after all.
April 26, 2009 2:19 PM
LMFAO!! How true this is!!
And how many of those designers that don't design under their real names ever accused a digi scrapper of trying to shoot her for crying out loud?
April 26, 2009 2:22 PM
Ever think that maybe that is one of the reasons she had to design under a new name?
*snort*
Why don't you just worry about yourself and let the people who are involved in this mess sort it out. It is NOT about YOU!
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No. I will ask what I want when I want.
You want my money? Then deal with it.
Ever think that maybe that is one of the reasons she had to design under a new name?
April 26, 2009 2:26 PM
Her own lies made it tough for her?
Too bad.
Bren Boone
Faith True
Misty Cato
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Either in cahoots with Amanda or really, really stupid.
Why don't you just worry about yourself and let the people who are involved in this mess sort it out. It is NOT about YOU!
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Amanda and other designers trying to get my money under false pretenses certainly is about me. My money-my business.
Ever think that maybe that is one of the reasons she had to design under a new name?
April 26, 2009 2:26 PM
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Well dammit, never thought about it that way. So that means that the would-be-psycho-wanna-be-killer-stalker-gun wielding digi scrapper is still out there and might try to take her out again, unless she designs under an alias? Yep sure don't understand why the rest of us didn't see it from that angle.
where is the proof that Lily Anne is Amanda?
***marking my spot for ease of future reading***
I have worked with Misty Cato and I can assure you she is neither in cahoots or stupid.
It is unfortunate that it happened, especially to Misty, but it did. From what I can see the designs were pulled from the stores just as soon as anything was suspected.
Misty is one of the nicest most honorable people. If you take a look at her history you will recognize that she stays out of the drama...always. Name one Misty Cato drama ever...there are none.
where is the proof that Lily Anne is Amanda?Where's the proof she isn't? (bum bum bum)
So, designers are just out there making collabs with anyone and everyone without knowing anything about them?
No wonder there are so many crooks in digi-there are so many easy marks!
still no proof that Lily Anne is Amanda.
I can't imagine why Misty would collab with a brand new, unknown designer when they are only allowed X number of outside collabs a year. It just seems VERY WEIRD.
I can't imagine why Misty would collab with a brand new, unknown designer when they are only allowed X number of outside collabs a year. It just seems VERY WEIRD.
April 26, 2009 2:51 PM
Yes, it does.
Amanda and other designers trying to get my money under false pretenses certainly is about me. My money-my business.
April 26, 2009 2:33 PM
They did not purposely set out to fool anyone. They do not need to inform you of anything they do that does not directly affect the quality of the items. When you go buy clothes do you need to know the clothing designers business because it is your money your spending? Lol Blithering FOOL!
Ever think that maybe that is one of the reasons she had to design under a new name?
Oh GAWD, that is something that ONLY AD would be dumb {or crazy} enough to say, and think we wouldn't see right through it. Just another example of her trying to justify her lies.
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Well dammit, never thought about it that way. So that means that the would-be-psycho-wanna-be-killer-stalker-gun wielding digi scrapper is still out there and might try to take her out again, unless she designs under an alias? Yep sure don't understand why the rest of us didn't see it from that angle.
LMAO!
Store-owners, beware. Because no doubt Amanda will try again at some point in the future. She's probably cooking up a new identity even now, only this time she'll take her time... show up as a scrapper, try to make herself get noticed as a new up-and-coming design star, and then start to try to work her way in to unsuspecting stores, and doing collabs with unsuspecting designers... Be careful store-owners and designers. She WILL try again.
They did not purposely set out to fool anyone. They do not need to inform you of anything they do that does not directly affect the quality of the items. When you go buy clothes do you need to know the clothing designers business because it is your money your spending? Lol Blithering FOOL!
April 26, 2009 3:04 PM
Call me anything you want if it makes you feel better.
If they ever want to see another dime of my money, they need to exonerate themselves.
They did not purposely set out to fool anyone.
April 26, 2009 3:04 PM
You don't know that and you do not speak for them.
Anyone who participated in this little scheme with Amanda looks just as bad as she does.
I am constantly amazed at the stupidity and unprofessionalism of designers and store owners.
Amanda didn't even have a teensy bit of trouble pulling this one off, did she?
If they ever want to see another dime of my money, they need to exonerate themselves.
April 26, 2009 3:07 PM
And what exactly would you like them to do to "exonerate" themselves? You people amaze me.
They did not purposely set out to fool anyone.
April 26, 2009 3:04 PM
You don't know that and you do not speak for them.
April 26, 2009 3:08 PM
Yes, that.
You have no right to speak for anyone other than yourself in all this.
This latest stunt is just about enough to make me stop spending for a good long time. I need to use my stash anyway and quit ennabling all this bad behavior.
I am constantly amazed at the stupidity and unprofessionalism of designers and store owners.
Amanda didn't even have a teensy bit of trouble pulling this one off, did she?
April 26, 2009 3:13 PM
Can you people please lighten up just a little bit and let the people involved work this out. There is enough people being hurt by all this without you adding fuel to the fire and bringing in store owners and designers.
Can you people please lighten up just a little bit and let the people involved work this out. There is enough people being hurt by all this without you adding fuel to the fire and bringing in store owners and designers.
April 26, 2009 3:22 PM
Can you just lighten up and let people discuss what they want?
If store owners and designers had been even a little bit careful or cautious in the first place, no one would be hurt.
You really need to quit telling customers they can't have opinions
My money-my business. You can't change that.
I hate to see Misty Cato's name get dragged into this. I can not think of one single designer with more integrity than Misty, and I do not believe for a second that she knew who "LilyAnne" really was. Misty has a great reputation because she has earned it, and the fact that she was duped by a liar doesn't change that.
You really need to quit telling customers they can't have opinions
April 26, 2009 3:28 PM
The only people who read this blog is customers? Here we go again with the customer/designer war! I know lots of designers and store owners that read this blog as well as customers. Bottom line is, we are all just people. I do not see why the need to label everyone. :(
I hate to see Misty Cato's name get dragged into this. I can not think of one single designer with more integrity than Misty, and I do not believe for a second that she knew who "LilyAnne" really was. Misty has a great reputation because she has earned it, and the fact that she was duped by a liar doesn't change that.
April 26, 2009 3:36 PM
I totally agree and same goes for Bren too! You people continue on with your fish fry. I'm outta here.
I sell at either ES or SO, I'm not saying which one. But, LilyAnne did not leave SO herself, she was kicked out. Then, as far as I know, her store at ES was shut off due to the accusations as well.
so if she was kicked out of SO, why can't they just be honest about and say they asked her to leave?
They're just helping Amanda/Lily get away with more if they know the facts and don't say something.
This is exactly why I'm just so sick of it all. All the secrecy and covering up and then they just turn around and do it all again.
I'm done buying anything scrap related for a while.
I don't think we'll ever know the truth. And really I could care less. Any of these kooky designers could end up designing for a paper company and I'll buy their stuff without even knowing it.
ROFL - so some 'supposed' designer comes in and cites some BS they think they know (which they are wrong about anyway), and you believe it and run off in a bit of a tither and say I'm going to take my toys home and go play?
once again-lots of BS, no proof, and all kinds of wild accusations and rumors flying all over the place.
You crazy bitches make the paper world look tame!
ROFL - so some 'supposed' designer comes in and cites some BS they think they know (which they are wrong about anyway), and you believe it and run off in a bit of a tither and say I'm going to take my toys home and go play?
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I'm not a "supposed" designer, I do sell at one of these stores. I will also say that LilyAnne was kicked out of SO for something completely different than being accused of being Amanda Dykan. Do I know exactly what? No, I don't. But that is what I was told where I sell (which is SO, who cares if you know I guess. This whole Amanda Dykan thing popped up at the same time she was being accused for something else.
So who's in the pics that Amanda used as LilyAnne?
LilyAnne was kicked out of SO for something completely different than being accused of being Amanda Dykan. Do I know exactly what? No, I don't. But that is what I was told where I sell (which is SO, who cares if you know I guess. This whole Amanda Dykan thing popped up at the same time she was being accused for something else.
April 26, 2009 4:07 PM
So much drama coming out of SO! blech
so if she was kicked out of SO, why can't they just be honest about and say they asked her to leave?
They're just helping Amanda/Lily get away with more if they know the facts and don't say something.
This is exactly why I'm just so sick of it all. All the secrecy and covering up and then they just turn around and do it all again.
I agree. It doesn't mean I won't continue to shop and buy digikits, but it does mean I won't be giving any business to shops who are not willing to be honest and forthright, and have full disclosure when they know about a thief or liar that I may have bought from... and who may also have my personal information because of that! If they're not willing to let others know who to be careful about, then I do not think they have their customers best interests at heart, and I will not be comfortable doing business there anymore.
Now anyone who has purchased anything from "LilyAnne" has something else to worry about - like what could be done with their personal information!
I hope that whatever else she is being accused of will be disclosed as well, seeing the woman has people's private information!
So much drama coming out of SO! blech
April 26, 2009 4:15 PM
I agree-too much shit stirring coming from over there.
Considering that the only personal information she might have is what you volunteered to give, don't blame SO that she might have info on you. YOU gave it to her. You can just as easily sign up with false info to protect yourself, don't blame them.
I hope that whatever else she is being accused of will be disclosed as well, seeing the woman has people's private information!
April 26, 2009 4:16 PM
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Nah, will never happen because, after all, why do we as customers have any right to expect to know anything?
oh crap not the personal information stuff again.
If you all weren't so stupid and entering in your real addresses and phone numbers at a store that you pay with paypal at it wouldn't be a problem.
Nah, will never happen because, after all, why do we as customers have any right to expect to know anything?
April 26, 2009 4:20 PM
LOL. Sad, but true.
So much for valuing your customers.
If you all weren't so stupid and entering in your real addresses and phone numbers at a store that you pay with paypal at it wouldn't be a problem.
April 26, 2009 4:22 PM
And if designers and store owners weren't so stupid and hiring and collabing with known liars and thieves, then people wouldn't have to worry.
They would only have to let you know if she is suspected of doing anything with that personal information. Highly unlikely that's what's going on. She doesn't have your credit card numbers. The sky is not falling.
then people wouldn't have to worry.
April 26, 2009 4:24 PM
Even then you do have to consider it. Everywhere you go you can't assume that every store owner knows everything about their designers. Don't enter in your personal information. It's your responsibility to protect yourself.
I have to agree with all the drama and trouble coming out of SO. I hope that the few decent designers they have will find a more reputable place to sell :(
Why is this SO's fault?
IF Lilyanne is Amanda they were deceived by her. How could they have known? Why would they knowingly take on that kind of crap?
The accusations don't make sense.
If Lily Anne is Amanda, why is she still selling at Shabby Pickle?
IS Lily Anne really Amanda? There's no proof of that
If Lily Anne is Amanda, why is she still selling at Shabby Pickle?
April 26, 2009 4:31 PM
^^^
Because she's not Amanda.
Word! None of this is anyones business. I think some people just think it is their right to know everything. Designers deserve privacy just like customers do. If this was about a customer then you would all be screaming how designers and stores violated a customers privacy! Bit of a double standard dontcha think?
April 26, 2009 1:52 PM
No. I'm not trying to get your money.
April 26, 2009 1:57 PM
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The designer isn't out to "get your money" not in that sense anyway. She's made a product that she would like to have you purchase. If you like it you buy it, if not, don't buy! It's not like they're asking for donations.
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Designers deserve privacy just like customers do.
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Then tell them to stay off the message boards, blogs, etc. and to quit putting all their personal shit out there.
April 26, 2009 2:03 PM
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I agree to a degree with this. IMO designers need to be "personal" to a extent. People want that. You probably know as well as I do if a designer doesn't get involved in the community they get 9 kinds of shit over it! However I think there should be a limit. They are still running a business and need to watch just how personal they get in public.
It's a shame really. If they're making a quality product who the hell cares what name they're using or where they're from or how long they've been in the digi-world? As long as the customer gets what they paid for and gets support when needed then I could care less what the designer's alter identity is!
She's probably selling kits like crazy right now. And wonder where the hell all the business is coming from. LOL!
If Lily Anne is Amanda, why is she still selling at Shabby Pickle?
April 26, 2009 4:31 PM
^^^
Because she's not Amanda.
April 26, 2009 4:31 PM
She's Amanda's alter ego.
As long as the customer gets what they paid for and gets support when needed then I could care less what the designer's alter identity is!
April 26, 2009 4:32 PM
Then why care if they participate at forums or post on a personal blog?
Who really wants designers pretending like they're everyone's BFF?
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Because she's not Amanda.
April 26, 2009 4:31 PM
She's Amanda's alter ego.
April 26, 2009 4:36 PM
Yes, and that's perfectly ok, so shut up and give her your money! You have no right to ask about anything-just shut up and spend!
They did not purposely set out to fool anyone. They do not need to inform you of anything they do that does not directly affect the quality of the items. When you go buy clothes do you need to know the clothing designers business because it is your money your spending? Lol Blithering FOOL!
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I'd be careful of who you call a fool. Somewhere I heard that only a fool calls other people fools.
Most of us are conversing about this subject without out resorting to calling anyone names.
I'd be careful of who you call a fool. Somewhere I heard that only a fool calls other people fools.
Most of us are conversing about this subject without out resorting to calling anyone names.
April 26, 2009 4:51 PM
Hmm, resorting to childish threats now eh? I am scared now. Not! Grow the hell up! You must be new to this damn blog or you would beable to see much worse then "fool" around here. Doh!
If Lily Anne is Amanda, why is she still selling at Shabby Pickle?
April 26, 2009 4:31 PM
^^^
Because she's not Amanda.
April 26, 2009 4:31 PM
Nice try but I know for a FACT it is. She knows she is busted.
So if she was kicked out of SO for an entirely different reason why doesn't someone tell us what is going on so we can move on to a new topic....
Nice try but I know for a FACT it is. She knows she is busted.
April 26, 2009 5:03 PM
enough. Put up or shut up.
So if she was kicked out of SO for an entirely different reason why doesn't someone tell us what is going on so we can move on to a new topic....
April 26, 2009 5:04 PM
You don't need to know. Shut up and spend.
I hate to see Misty Cato's name get dragged into this. I can not think of one single designer with more integrity than Misty, and I do not believe for a second that she knew who "LilyAnne" really was. Misty has a great reputation because she has earned it, and the fact that she was duped by a liar doesn't change that.
April 26, 2009 3:36 PM
I totally agree and same goes for Bren too! You people continue on with your fish fry. I'm outta here.
April 26, 2009 3:41 PM
Oh puhleez people! We are suppose to believe that these designers collabed with someone they did not even know, and who just popped on the scene a month ago.. without knowing who they are working with!! Are they that stupid or do they think we are that stupid to by that load of bs. This stinks to high heaven and back. Can they get anymore deceitful? Never mind, I know that is a rhetorical question.
I'd be careful of who you call a fool. Somewhere I heard that only a fool calls other people fools.
Most of us are conversing about this subject without out resorting to calling anyone names.
April 26, 2009 4:51 PM
Hmm, resorting to childish threats now eh? I am scared now. Not! Grow the hell up! You must be new to this damn blog or you would be able to see much worse then "fool" around here. Doh!
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I am not new to this blog and I do not see how you perceive any kind of threat by what I said.
I think name calling is immature and unproductive. I am entitled to that opinion.
Oh puhleez people! We are suppose to believe that these designers collabed with someone they did not even know, and who just popped on the scene a month ago.. without knowing who they are working with!! Are they that stupid or do they think we are that stupid to by that load of bs. This stinks to high heaven and back. Can they get anymore deceitful? Never mind, I know that is a rhetorical question.
April 26, 2009 5:08 PM
Exactly.
wv=liess
So if she was kicked out of SO for an entirely different reason why doesn't someone tell us what is going on so we can move on to a new topic....
April 26, 2009 5:04 PM
Because it is none of your business. It is a dog eat dog world. Now go sit in the corner and deal with it.
Because it is none of your business. It is a dog eat dog world. Now go sit in the corner and deal with it.
April 26, 2009 5:11 PM
Yeah, shut up and spend! You do not have any right to know-don't you dare question designers or stores-who do you think you are?
I am not new to this blog and I do not see how you perceive any kind of threat by what I said.
I think name calling is immature and unproductive. I am entitled to that opinion.
April 26, 2009 5:09 PM
Sure you are.
There is no proof that Lily Anne is Amanda
There is no proof that Lily Anne is Amanda
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But there is plenty of speculation and circumstantial evidence though.
But there is plenty of speculation and circumstantial evidence though.
April 26, 2009 5:18 PM
That's not proof
It is a dog eat dog world and me and my money will go play with some other dogs for a while.
Unfortunately sometimes once the circumstantial evidence is strong enough the burden goes to the accused to prove themselves innocent.
This is a blog not a court house. Innocent until proven guilty doesn't exist on the smack blog world.
I'm calling BS that Lily Anne wasn't kicked out over the whole Amanda thing.
And on a SO designer posting here about it all-they are far too professional for that.
That's not proof
April 26, 2009 5:19 PM
Nobody is gonna give YOU any proof because it does not concern you. It will be handled as seen fit and not played out on a smack blog for all to view. Trying to be Perry Mason?
http://scraporchard.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7091&highlight=LilyAnne
Very brief announcement "Lilyanne Taylor has left the building"
That's it, not other info forth coming.
Unfortunately sometimes once the circumstantial evidence is strong enough the burden goes to the accused to prove themselves innocent.
^^^
What a load of crap. All you designers and store owners use this blog as your private dumping ground to try and discredit each other. You're not fooling near the number of people that you think you are.
It is a dog eat dog world and me and my money will go play with some other dogs for a while.
April 26, 2009 5:20 PM
Promise? I love it when you babies take your toys elsewhere to go play. Gives us sane people a little time to breath before you come slithering back.
Way too much drama coming out of Scrap Orchard.
Nobody is gonna give YOU any proof because it does not concern you. It will be handled as seen fit and not played out on a smack blog for all to view. Trying to be Perry Mason?
April 26, 2009 5:26 PM
The truth always comes out in the end.
You have no right to try and speak for anyone.
Promise? I love it when you babies take your toys elsewhere to go play. Gives us sane people a little time to breath before you come slithering back.
April 26, 2009 5:28 PM
Oh yeah, you sound really sane @@
What a load of crap. All you designers and store owners use this blog as your private dumping ground to try and discredit each other. You're not fooling near the number of people that you think you are.
April 26, 2009 5:26 PM
All you customers use it to whine and cry all the time. All the while screaming that you are owed everything under the sun.
All you customers use it to whine and cry all the time. All the while screaming that you are owed everything under the sun.
April 26, 2009 5:32 PM
You want my money? Then deal with it.
Customer service isn't easy. Welcome to the wonderful world of retail, designer bitches.
Lily Anne Taylor is not Amanda Dykan.
Amanda Dykan is not Lily Anne Taylor.
Nobody is gonna give YOU any proof because it does not concern you. It will be handled as seen fit and not played out on a smack blog for all to view. Trying to be Perry Mason?
April 26, 2009 5:26 PM
This doesn't concern you, so why are you posting about it?
Unfortunately sometimes once the circumstantial evidence is strong enough the burden goes to the accused to prove themselves innocent.
^^^
What a load of crap. All you designers and store owners use this blog as your private dumping ground to try and discredit each other. You're not fooling near the number of people that you think you are.
April 26, 2009 5:26 PM
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hmmm I posted that and I am not a designer so I don't know where all that came from.
I was just pointing out that no there is no proof but many circumstantial issues have been discussed that I wish would be clarified.
If the powers that be don't want to clarify anything that is their prerogative.
Looks like you're the one that doesn't know the digi community. Stores like SO and SP don't just take on any new designer that pops up.
The fact that this designer hopped into those two stores so quickly without any background or history is fishy.
And knowing the digi community like I do, I find it hard to believe that all those designers that did collabs with her didn't know what was going on.
April 26, 2009 12:09 PM
Yes. This is exactly what is bothering me as well. You do not come on the scene and a month later do collabs with several designers without them knowing who you are. What rubbish. Makes absolutely zero sense what so ever. This just keeps on getting crazier and crazier by the moment. Pass the popcorn.
Yes. This is exactly what is bothering me as well. You do not come on the scene and a month later do collabs with several designers without them knowing who you are. What rubbish. Makes absolutely zero sense what so ever. This just keeps on getting crazier and crazier by the moment. Pass the popcorn.
April 26, 2009 5:41 PM
Amen sister!
Something's not right, and all the deflecting in the world isn't going to change it.
Customer service isn't easy. Welcome to the wonderful world of retail, designer bitches.
April 26, 2009 5:34 PM
Bitter much sweetie? ;)
Nobody is gonna give YOU any proof because it does not concern you. It will be handled as seen fit and not played out on a smack blog for all to view. Trying to be Perry Mason?
Promise? I love it when you babies take your toys elsewhere to go play. Gives us sane people a little time to breath before you come slithering back.
All you customers use it to whine and cry all the time. All the while screaming that you are owed everything under the sun.
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I'm glad you don't care if I leave. But I can promise you that I will not come slithering back.
Hmmm...now where should I not be coming back to...SO or SP??
I'm calling BS that Lily Anne wasn't kicked out over the whole Amanda thing.
And on a SO designer posting here about it all-they are far too professional for that.
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I'm the designer from SO that posted earlier, how do you know we don't read here? I read here, and I know of 2 other designers I talk to at SO that read here.
I'm not saying that she wasn't kicked out over the accusations of being Amanda Dykan, however, I'm saying I was told it was for something unrelated to that.
April 26, 2009 5:47 PM
Well, it looks like SO designers aren't too professional to talk anonymous smack!
My bad.
Hmmm...now where should I not be coming back to...SO or SP??
April 26, 2009 5:47 PM
I'd say Scrap Orchard.
She's Amanda
She's not Amanda
It's none of our business who she is
The designers knew
The designers didn't know
The customers don't like the designers
The designers don't like the customers
We should buy from unethical designers if the produce a good product
We should have social conscience about who we buy from
It's an interesting world and we all have interesting opinions. I have not had this much fun in ages. The drama is fascinating.
Where are the personal posts? Has she been participating at other sites? I don't know any designers that just jumped into the biz with all these kits already created and have had absolutely no exposure on any of the forums.
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Christina Renee for one. She doesn't scrap, had no pages but she appeared at FPD when it first started, a place everyone wanted to be. It happens.
The drama is fascinating.
April 26, 2009 5:55 PM
No kidding. Pass the popcorn and fasten your seatbelts!
Well, it looks like SO designers aren't too professional to talk anonymous smack!
My bad.
April 26, 2009 5:51 PM
lol! Give someone enough rope . . .
I think even CR had some posts at DST before she jumped right into designing. Honestly, I don't care enough to go and check out something from that long ago.
Also, CR may have been flaky, but she never lied and did the things Amanda has done.
Not conclusive "proof" but another coincidence is that script font in Amanda's blinkie is the same script font used on LilyAnne's blog.
I know fonts are available to everyone but like I say...just another coincidence.
Designers have as much right to talk smack on this blog as anyone else does.
Oh, and I am a customer not a designer. But I happen to like designers and the ones I have had to deal with have always been nice and professional.
Amanda's blog and Lily Anne's blog both have polka dots in the background!
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There is NO proof that Amanda is Lily Anne.
What happens if all these crazy accusations and assumptions turn out to be untrue?
Amanda and Lily Anne both have the letter 'A' in their names!! Get out the pitchforks!
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