The rest of the story...a place to freely discuss "the hub of the digital scrapbook community"
Saturday, April 11, 2009
Happy Easter!
I told you I would be back around Easter! What has been going on around the digi scene? Looks like the Scrapper Awards are coming to DST soon, always some good controversy with those. National Scrapbook day coming hopefully some good sales.
This doesn't concern you, so why are you posting about it?
April 26, 2009 5:36 PM
It does not? You know this how? Seems someone is getting a little nervous. I will continue to post and if you do not like it, then maybe you should refrain from posting.
It does not? You know this how? Seems someone is getting a little nervous. I will continue to post and if you do not like it, then maybe you should refrain from posting.
April 26, 2009 6:17 PM
No it doesn't concern you at all. YOU are the one who needs to refrain from posting!
When are all you stupid scrappers going to learn that you don't have a right to know anything unless WE see fit to let you know? This whole Amanda and Lily Anne thing doesn't concern you at all, so just shut up about it and quit asking questions!!
What happens if all these crazy accusations and assumptions turn out to be untrue? --------------------------------- That would be great. I would love for them to be untrue.
All this will die down eventually. She is so new to the digi community Lilyanne may not even know about this blog. If nothing else it has brought her work to our attention and that might garner a few sales. So all will not be lost.
But someone broached this subject and it is our nature to speculate. I think it just need to run it's course.
I think even if we aren't speculating whether they are the same people, we are going to speculate about why SO and ES dumped her.
When are all you stupid scrappers going to learn that you don't have a right to know anything unless WE see fit to let you know? This whole Amanda and Lily Anne thing doesn't concern you at all, so just shut up about it and quit asking questions!!
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You know maybe you should not be reading this blog.
If SO sent you here for damage control, you are not helping.
I never said CR lied, but someone said they didn't know of any designer that popped right onto the scene and I mentioned one. Anne de Jong was another, as far as I know. I stress that I'm not saying they are liars etc, just that it does happen that designers pop up out of nowhere and are instantly popular.
I sense a lot of this drama being created by designers who have not been as successful as this LilyAnne person.
Not sure what that means. They are the same person or they are using the same stock resource and claiming it as their own. Weird, don't you think?
April 26, 2009 6:31 PM
They could be using the same CU resources, Sparky. Just quit asking questions and let the people who need to deal with it! You don't need to know ANYTHING about this unless someone involved sees fit to let you know!
This is Kami from Scrap Orchard. I'd just like to clear a couple things up.
First, Scrap Orchard would never knowingly hire a designer who was pretending to be someone other than who they really are. In fact, as we do with all our designers, we require references and a w-9.
Second, the terms of LilyAnne's departure from Scrap Orchard are not open for discussion and not something we will be sharing. Legally, that is not something we are able to do. Just as any employer, we are not at liberty to discuss personnel issues with the public. If you for some reason feel that your personal information is somehow compromised due to LilyAnne's brief association with Scrap Orchard, please feel free to contact us at customerservice@scraporchard.com and we will certainly address your individual concerns.
Lastly, for reasons we are not able to disclose, we're certain the person posing here as a Scrap Orchard Designers is not in any way affiliated with our store. Please keep in mind, anyone can claim to be anyone they want when they are posting anonymously.
Ultimately, our customers are extremely important to us, as is our design team, and we treat all of them with the utmost respect and professionalism. Feel free to contact any of us individually with any concerns you might have.
You have no right to speculate! Quit asking questions that don't concern you
April 26, 2009 6:24 PM
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I have every right to speculate. Freedom of Speech and all that. I have never shopped at SO and since that store has been mentioned in this drama and along comes you, I'm never going to shop there.
They could be using the same CU resources, Sparky. Just quit asking questions and let the people who need to deal with it! You don't need to know ANYTHING about this unless someone involved sees fit to let you know!
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How are they using the same CU resources when LilyAnne's doodles ARE CU? She can't take someone else's CU doodles and resell them as CU doodles. So how would Amanda have used the same doodles that LilyAnne is selling as CU before LilyAnne even existed as a digi designer?
I'm the designer from SO that posted earlier, how do you know we don't read here? I read here, and I know of 2 other designers I talk to at SO that read here.
I'm not saying that she wasn't kicked out over the accusations of being Amanda Dykan, however, I'm saying I was told it was for something unrelated to that.
April 26, 2009 5:47 PM
It's pretty obvious that Scrap Orchard people read here. Posts from Bren Boone and Kami just kind of support some of the things the anon SO designer was saying.
Sorry, I just don't believe that these stores were innocently duped into doing business with Amanda Dykan in disguise. I think they knew who she was and chose to ignore it for a chance to make a quick buck. Then when the shite hits the fan, they just claim they were duped and kick her out of the store.
oh please, what are they going to gain by that?! Just because Joedee was willing to do it with Ashley Olson doesn't mean the rest of the digi world is really that stupid. That's so overreaching it's sad.
oh please, what are they going to gain by that?! Just because Joedee was willing to do it with Ashley Olson doesn't mean the rest of the digi world is really that stupid. That's so overreaching it's sad.
April 26, 2009 6:56 PM
Learn to read. They stand to gain a quick buck, which is all they care about in the first place.
Thinking that people are stupid enough to believe that all these designers and stores just jumped blindly into business with a TOTAL unknown is what's overreaching and sad.
How are they using the same CU resources when LilyAnne's doodles ARE CU? She can't take someone else's CU doodles and resell them as CU doodles. So how would Amanda have used the same doodles that LilyAnne is selling as CU before LilyAnne even existed as a digi designer?
I'd say that's all the proof I needed
April 26, 2009 6:48 PM
Well if this just doesn't clench it for you all then I do not know what to say. Bottom line is- Amanda Dykan is pretending to be LilyAnne and for those of you who do not believe it then what?? LilyAnne is a pirate? That kit was out way before "LillyAnne" doodles. What a fricken nightmare.
Sorry, I just don't believe that these stores were innocently duped into doing business with Amanda Dykan in disguise. I think they knew who she was and chose to ignore it for a chance to make a quick buck. Then when the shite hits the fan, they just claim they were duped and kick her out of the store.
April 26, 2009 6:54 PM
Have to agree. And if they are requiring that designers have references and w-9s, then how did Amanda aka LilyAnne just slip by them??
Well if this just doesn't clench it for you all then I do not know what to say. Bottom line is- Amanda Dykan is pretending to be LilyAnne and for those of you who do not believe it then what?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^
So how did she dupe Scrap Orchard, Shabby Pickle, and Sweet Shoppe into selling her kits?
Wow, you know the found OJ not guilty with more evidence than shown here. I'm not saying don't ask questions and all that but assumptions are a whole different thing.
Yeah, the doodles look the same, but that doesn't mean they are the same person. That's a huge leap.
It is really pretty clear that AD used G's doodles to make her kit. She also used the flower with leaves, hat, and Eiffel tower from G's set. And LilyAnne's look like they are definitely "inspired"(pretty much copied, IMO) but if you look closely, they are not the exact same doodles. There are small differences.
Lastly, for reasons we are not able to disclose, we're certain the person posing here as a Scrap Orchard Designers is not in any way affiliated with our store.
Sweet Genieveve has had these doodles out forever and a day-maybe Amanda and Lily Anne were using THOSE
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Well it looks like LilyAnne copied those, that or it looks like she might have even taken them and added a few things here or there because they are very very similar.. look at the ends of the legs, the one in the back curves exactly the same as LilyAnne's
Do you REALLY believe that Amanda Dykan was able to somehow trick Faith True, Bren Boone and Misty Cato into doing collabs with her less than a month after appearing on the digi scene? With no other web footprint? And do you REALLY believe that the store owners at Shabby Pickle, Scrap Orchard, and Sweet Shoppe just blindly said ok to selling these kits in their shops?? If they REALLY require references, w9's, etc. then HOW did this happen?
*sigh* SG sold these for CU for a loong time. Any number of people could have bought and used them.
Are you a product of homeschooling?
April 26, 2009 7:17 PM I get that Einstein but since when do you buy commercial use items and think it is okay to resale them as ANOTHER commercial use item. That would be illegal. No, I am not a product of home schooling and fail to see what that has to do with anything or what is wrong with home schooling. Cunt much?
I get that Einstein but since when do you buy commercial use items and think it is okay to resale them as ANOTHER commercial use item. That would be illegal. No, I am not a product of home schooling and fail to see what that has to do with anything or what is wrong with home schooling. Cunt much?
April 26, 2009 7:33 PM
rofl! How stupid are you?
People are repacking and selling CU and PU stuff every damn day. No one said it was right-just that it happens all the time.
You people are way too easily distracted. The question that needs to be answered is how Amanda pulled this one off if stores are as careful as they say they are.
She is saying that you are not supposed to sell commercial items for commercial use. She is not saying that you can't, or that someone won't. It is just common sense not to do it.
It is quite obvious, just like you can't, by law, be a pedophile- but it sure doesn't stop you......
I hope you have adult supervision in your 4x4 jail cell.
I get that Einstein but since when do you buy commercial use items and think it is okay to resale them as ANOTHER commercial use item. That would be illegal.
I agree with this. Even if this LilyAnne is not Amanda, what she is doing with modifying and using SG's doodles is not ok.
I mean really. Does everyone not remember Amanda posting this video on penscrappers showing how to trace and modify a doodle? http://www.penscrappers.com/2008/12/01/amanda-dykan-2/
I am guessing that in her mind if she changes it a little bit, it is ok. She doesn't seem to have learned her lesson. Maybe if she had just tried to be original and create her own art in the first place this would not have all blown up.
You people are way too easily distracted. The question that needs to be answered is how Amanda pulled this one off if stores are as careful as they say they are.
Do you REALLY believe that Amanda Dykan was able to somehow trick Faith True, Bren Boone and Misty Cato into doing collabs with her less than a month after appearing on the digi scene? With no other web footprint? And do you REALLY believe that the store owners at Shabby Pickle, Scrap Orchard, and Sweet Shoppe just blindly said ok to selling these kits in their shops?? If they REALLY require references, w9's, etc. then HOW did this happen?
April 26, 2009 7:30 PM It happened and it will continue to happen unless new measures are implemented into these stores. With identity theft so ramped it is not even safe to just fill out a w9 and send in a photocopy of an ID because it could be anyone's ID, a friend, a sister, a stranger, a neighbor.. who knows!! Things need to be much more strict and ran better with background checks and such.
Srsly, they need to start requiring fingerprints, a DNA sample, and signed affidavits from at least 5 people proving that they are who they say they are. Scrapbooking is very serious business.
Srsly, they need to start requiring fingerprints, a DNA sample, and signed affidavits from at least 5 people proving that they are who they say they are. Scrapbooking is very serious business.
April 26, 2009 8:01 PM Brillant 8:01!! These are all very, very, good ideas! Keep the idea coming sweetie. Who knows perhaps you can get a job out of all this.
I think I'll stick to stores that run their business professionally. Looks like I don't have many choices at all. April 26, 2009 8:04 PM
now what is your definition of professional? personally, i think it's professional when a store fires someone for doing something illegal and then refuses to gossip and smear that persons name for no other reason than to be nasty and malicious... but apparently quite a few of your disagree.
I just watched the AD doodle video and at the end she even states that you can recolor the doodle and use it in your digital kits. She doe not address copy right issues. As the Head of Design and Education for a national scrapbook store chain (as indicated in her bio) I would think she would have mentioned that.
i think it's professional when a store fires someone for doing something illegal and then refuses to gossip and smear that persons name for no other reason than to be nasty and malicious... but apparently quite a few of your disagree. ----------------------------------- I agree. Neither ES or SO kept her around very long. Maybe as soon as they realized the issue (whatever the issue truly is) they quietly got rid of her.
If it wasn't for whoever put up the fake screen shot, we wouldn't even know there was an issue.
Many years ago when I discovered an embezzlement, I had a few lawyers suggest that we quietly get rid of the person. They said banks do it all the time. That way business keeps going and it doesn't cause customer panic.
there's no proof that anyone did anything illegal. ---------------------------------- no there isn't. but i don't think that two stores got rid of her because they didn't like her blond hair.
We need more space- purdy please! ------------------------------------- We don't need more space. Just use your older and newer buttons. Or are you wanting new space so the topic will change?
now what is your definition of professional? personally, i think it's professional when a store fires someone for doing something illegal and then refuses to gossip and smear that persons name for no other reason than to be nasty and malicious... but apparently quite a few of your disagree.
April 26, 2009 8:11 PM I'm assuming you are talking about Scrap Orchard. They are correct and professional in the way the handled this. It could very well open up to a lawsuit had they divulged any sort of employee information. They came in and spoke without giving any personal information. Which is more than I can say for the shabby pickle.
I can only think of one store that is run totally professionally with SSL, etc. And I don't think their CS is all that great. ---------------------------------- What store would that be? I can think of a few SBG DSP SBB Designer Digitals
I think I'll stick to stores that run their business professionally. Looks like I don't have many choices at all.
April 26, 2009 8:04 PM
come on! who cares! we all just want the gossip. that's what it boils down too. none of these issues have any bearing on us, our lives or our families. we just love the drama and WE WANT TO KNOW! i'm not afraid to say it! i love the juicy details. why do we have to pretend to be indignant and self-righteous. why can't we just speculate and theorize and... hell, if nobody will tell us, let's make up something, cuz it's sure to be better than the truth!
i'll start
lilyanne got fired because kami caught her having sex with her husband, but what nobody knows is that kami and bren are secretly lesbian lovers and are planning on running off to some tropical island where they're going to start their own lesbian digi store and make kits centered completely around boobies!!
What kind of references do the stores require? I thought it would be more digital references. Like do you have a presence at a digi site, what challenges have you participated in, where have you been posting your layouts. Do they check real life references? Do they care about who you really are?
Other than needing a W-9 for tax pruposes and needing your address so they can mail you a 1099. Do they need to know much about your real life?
Are you suggesting that they need real live references just to sell digital kits?
now what is your definition of professional? personally, i think it's professional when a store fires someone for doing something illegal and then refuses to gossip and smear that persons name for no other reason than to be nasty and malicious... but apparently quite a few of your disagree
lilyanne got fired because kami caught her having sex with her husband, but what nobody knows is that kami and bren are secretly lesbian lovers and are planning on running off to some tropical island where they're going to start their own lesbian digi store and make kits centered completely around boobies!!
April 26, 2009 8:29 PM
This is great and oh so true! We come here looking for the drama and smut, then when we find it we all run around acting all shocked and mortified. LOL Thanks for lightening things up.
if SO was professional, they never would have been doing business with her in the first place. Same with ES, SP, and SSD. ---------------------------------- That is not necessarily so. They didn't do business with her for very long. Being professional doesn't mean you don't make mistakes. It means you can identify your mistakes in a timely fashion and take steps to rectify them with a minimum of loss.
I doubt that the stores are responsible for the person who posted the fake screen shot and started this whole drama.
And why not require real live referenes? That's what real professionals with real businesses do. ---------------------------------- I don't think that the majority of the online digi scrap shops are real professionals with real businesses. Hence you are not going to see things done the way it would be done in the real world.
So if stores like SO "require references," I guess they didn't check LilyAnne's??? ------------------------------------ Do stores actually require references? I've never tried to sell at a store so I don't know how a store gets their designers.
Some of you are so naive, it's a wonder you manage to get around and do what you have to do every day.
You can do all the background checks you want, but if a person has no criminal history nor done anything wrong, it's not going to show up, is it? No, of course not.
There is no proof at all that shows LilyAnne and Amanda are the same person. It's pure speculation. I have no problem with that, or I wouldn't be here. But to state it as fact, that's crap.
Personal references? Background checks? Seriously?
How much do (some of) you think these stores are making exactly? As much as I love this community- let's be honest, this isn't exactly the Fortune 500...
The amazing part of this to me is that a good number of you seem to think it's difficult to pretend to be someone you're not online as you post anonymously! Oh, the sweet irony...
This is just knee jerk reacting. Something bad happens and people want to change the rules so that something bad can't happen again. The problem is you can not anticipate all the bad things that can happen. It is impossible to prevent every bad thing from ever happening. The best thing is to be able to identify the problems and take corrective measures when they happen. It seems this is what has happened so as far as I am concerned ES and SO have handled things appropriately. LilyAnne is not at their stores any longer and life will go on.
The best thing is to be able to identify the problems and take corrective measures when they happen. It seems this is what has happened so as far as I am concerned ES and SO have handled things appropriately. LilyAnne is not at their stores any longer
So what's up with SP then? Why do they think that it is ok for her to still be selling there?
So what's up with SP then? Why do they think that it is ok for her to still be selling there?
April 26, 2009 10:04 PM
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It is possible that she was asked to leave SO for a different reason than what's been thrown out on this blog. We don't know what happened. Why should SP ask her to leave based on speculation from a smack blog?
Some similarities between AD & LT layouts.. they both have their drop shadows at the top.. unusual in the land of digi, most people have it at 120 degrees.
Check out their galleries too, and this little girl, photo taken by Kristy Krouse who I gather is her best friend. http://www.amandadykan.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=116
This little girl looks an awful lot like LT little girl here. http://scraporchard.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32773&ppuser=12036
She left ES because she got a spot with SO a few days after signing on with ES.
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Yeah but someone posted a thread a while back at ES asking if LilyAnne was leaving because her blinkie said exclusively at SO or something like that and they were told she wouldn't be leaving until May
It's not May yet and she just happens to leave ES suddenly the same day as SO? Yeah, I don't think so.
here she claims she doesn't have kids.. but her layout sounds like she does.. http://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=394605&postcount=19
Check out their galleries too, and this little girl, photo taken by Kristy Krouse who I gather is her best friend. http://www.amandadykan.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=116
This little girl looks an awful lot like LT little girl here. http://scraporchard.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32773&ppuser=12036
April 26, 2009 10:28 PM
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You are kidding, right? How you can possibly tell? One girl has her face half hidden by her hands. Most little girls would look the same in those poses. Sheesh.
You are kidding, right? How you can possibly tell? One girl has her face half hidden by her hands. Most little girls would look the same in those poses. Sheesh.
April 26, 2009 10:48 PM ----------------------------------- http://www.amandadykan.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=187
Id on't think the two girls look alike at all. One has curly hair and one has straight hair.
April 26, 2009 11:04 PM -------------------------- Haven't you heard of hair straighteners/curlers? You don't think they do hair up for dance recitals?
I don't know if it's a Texas thing, but Amanda and LilyAnne have a lot of the same speech patterns in the forums. I know when you speak to people they would, but when writing do they? Something to think about.
I don't know if it's a Texas thing, but Amanda and LilyAnne have a lot of the same speech patterns in the forums. I know when you speak to people they would, but when writing do they? Something to think about.
April 27, 2009 4:13 AM
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How can you tell? That's just grasping for evidence to prove your point.
I think she sounds like CR personally. That's it, maybe she's CR!
You know Amanda is associated with the paper industry. It's possible that they know each other through that??? They are both involved at Memory Mixers.
What's curious about this the 'LilyAnne' layout is that not only do they use the exact same Linda Billdale cardboard, but they both say 'remaining', as in 'remaining items by'. I have never EVER seen crediting in this form before, yet 'both' these women do it. Most people say 'all other', or list the majour source first and the 'except'.
Strikes me as an odd coincidence.
And I can confirm that there is a deleted thread in the DCR by Amanda Dykan, dated 17 April, the same day as LilyAnne's Hi thread. AD hasn't otherwise posted in the DCR for months. Again, odd coincidence.
What's curious about this the 'LilyAnne' layout is that not only do they use the exact same Linda Billdale cardboard, but they both say 'remaining', as in 'remaining items by'. I have never EVER seen crediting in this form before, yet 'both' these women do it. Most people say 'all other', or list the majour source first and the 'except'.
Strikes me as an odd coincidence. *********************************** I picked up on the crediting also, they "both" credit exactly the same way.
I just had to go look and sure enough, a deleted thread by AmandaDykan in the DCR on April 17th. Huh. Go figure. I guess I know which way I am leaning now. Sad. I feel bad for the girls who joined LilyAnnes CT. I would love to hear what they are being told at this point.
Just goes to show how dumb AD is. If she'd posted something else (saying nothing much even) and THEN deleted the mistake post with reason 'duplicate', likely nobody would have ever been any the wiser.
You know, juries have convicted people with nothing but circumstantial evidence.
While I don't agree with something like that involving human life, I do think there's enough of it in this case here. There's just way too many things that make you go Hmmmm.... Either Amanda and this Lilly chick are one in the same or LillyAnne has a serious hard-on for Amanda and is obsessing over her, wanting to BE her. Of the two choices, I would choose the more rational one of them being the same person.
Another fact, the first thread LilyAnne ever posted at DST was to the ES designer call. The same day she signed up at DST. So, it is very possible Amanda Dykan saw the post, and "created" LilyAnne that day.
oh and I do my shadows from the top because I don't like my shadows from the bottom. I guess that makes me AD too!
whatever...
The best proof here is the fact that they both sell at Memory Mixer. They are connected. http://www.memorymixer.com/catalog/designs Where AD left off, LA took over.
Set Up? In what way? Someone came along, predicted LilyAnne was going to post a Hi thread (almost nobody posts a Hi thread in the DCR by the way), hacked Amanda Dykan's account, posted something, deleted it, and a few minutes later LilyAnne does indeed make a Hi post? Why?
Why else would Amanda Dykan make and immediately delete a post, her first in the DCR for literally months, unless it was posted by mistake? If it was, why didn't she post anything else in replacement or just edit it?
If Ms Dykan has auto login selected at DST like most people, it would be a very easy mistake to make to post under the 'wrong' account. With all the other, admittedly circumstantial, evidence I am inclined to believe that's what happened. Amanda Dykan never was smart enough to cover her tracks, why would she be any different now?
Well no matter what LT and AD are definitely connected. My guess is that they are the same person but I know that there is no proof of that. But I am still entitled to my guess.
If it is true, why come here and vehemently deny it. I have no doubt that Amanda is posting here. Seriously, she needs to grow up and just own up to her stuff.
Oh, just to add, AD's post is timestamped at 08.02 (per screenshot) and LilyAnne's timestamped 08.05 (per DCR). This is in line with the posts either side of the deleted AD post, which are timestamped 7.14am and 9.55am. If the screenshot IS a fake, whoever did it has great attention to detail.
So you have to ask yourself. WHY would anyone want to 'set up' Lily Anne?
They'd have to have access to Amanda Dykan's DCR account (to post the deleted post) in order to setup the suspiscious deletion. Would have to know LilyAnne was going to post to the DCR and when, and precision timing to get it just right.
Or, could be opportunist, saw a deleted post, saw LilyAnne make a Hi post, decide to fake a screenshot of ADs deleted post. But why? She wasn't the only newcomer to the DCR that day, so why pick on her?
And that's before you even start to think about the collabs, the store hopping, etc etc.
I just think the balance of probability lies with AD being LillyAnne, more than it does with the whole thing being a setup.
Set Up? In what way? Someone came along, predicted LilyAnne was going to post a Hi thread (almost nobody posts a Hi thread in the DCR by the way), hacked Amanda Dykan's account, posted something, deleted it, and a few minutes later LilyAnne does indeed make a Hi post? Why?
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No, someone who is jealous of LA decided to bring her down and jumped on the opportunity of AD posting and deleting at that time. They altered a DST post to make it look like she is AD. And it works so well because of the connections.
It's just a theory. Just like everything else posted on this blog. And there are designers evil enough to alter evidence to bring someone down.
This is really out of hand and all so crazy. Amanda, if you are reading this, and I think that you are, just move on. No one can deny that you are talented, but your problem has always been trying to do too much at a time, be everywhere, take short cuts and be popular. You suck at multitasking. My best advice would be to start creating your OWN art, and getting into some other field of graphic design and move on from digital scrapbooking. Go design for childrens books or paper companies or something along those lines and make sure that all of your work is your own. Take the extra time to draw your own doodles and stay away from CU and stock illustrations. Do one thing and do it well. Just move on to something else. Digital scrapbooking is not the end all be all of the world. There are various avenues for you to use your skills. If the allegations are true, and I tend to believe they are, then this has hurt a lot of people. Just walk away and stay away. It's not the end of the world. Just move on please.
No, someone who is jealous of LA decided to bring her down and jumped on the opportunity of AD posting and deleting at that time. They altered a DST post to make it look like she is AD. And it works so well because of the connections. ------------------------------------ and I've got some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale.
I just have to say thank GOODNESS I came onto the scrap scene! If not, man, you guys would have NOTHING else to talk about! Also, I want to thank you guys for thinking I'm LilyAnne. I love her stuff! I love it that you guys give me so much credit. Thanks!! I also really love that all of this is in writing. Really helps alot with my crazy, pycho, schitzo problems. Makes me realize the voices are, indeed, real. Whew. Was worried.
Makes you wonder what they did with their sad pathetic lives before you and smack blogs, doesn't it Amanda?
Poor mom down the street who they used their amateur Sherlock Holmes skills on so had someone they could talk shit about instead of examining their own lives and figuring out where they hell they went wrong and why they are so screwed up that they need to live off what is going on in other people's lives.
Amanda, instead of coming on all defensive (which makes you appear guilty by the way) why don't you try and explain some of what is happening here.
April 27, 2009 1:02 PM ***********************************Oh I don't think she was trying to be defensive at all. She was playing cute and trying to throw us off our line of thought. Cute doesn't work for you Amanda, you've screwed up one to many times.
Makes you wonder what they did with their sad pathetic lives before you and smack blogs, doesn't it Amanda?
Poor mom down the street who they used their amateur Sherlock Holmes skills on so had someone they could talk shit about instead of examining their own lives and figuring out where they hell they went wrong and why they are so screwed up that they need to live off what is going on in other people's lives.
So the whole reference thing has been bothering me, I mean if SO supposedly checks all their references like they say they do, and if LilyAnn Taylor is really Amanda Dykan then someone had to lie for her right? Who would do that?! Sherlock Holmes that I am, I dug this up.
http://scraporchard.com/designerapplication.php
They want "Names & email address of 2-3 professional references (preferably one from a store owner and one from a peer)"
Who is a store owner (that Amanda Dykan would know) a peer (designer) and who she is obviously still in touch with? One name is answer to both questions. Amanda Kay (owns Sunshine Studio Scraps, is a designer and is on LilyAnn's CT right now)
My guess is that LA got dinged for using a CU product that she didn't purchase because it came out of AD's stash. When asked to produce proof of purchase, she was unable to do so without revealing that she's AD. Grounds for dismissal at that point. It was probably an MB CU product. She's mixed in this somehow. Always is.
Forget about MB and SSD, I want the scoop on how those "Sunshine Girls" are in on this, I always knew there was something up there. Didn't AD sell there for a long time?
I was responding the post above, but I'm not MB, get a life!
April 27, 2009 5:46 PM
Your response still doesn't make sense to think it was AD/LA posting who the reference was. She doesn't want you to know about the Memory Mixer connection. Trust me!
April 27, 2009 5:59 PM --------------------------------- Unusual she does them up too, but they are definately not the same as LT & AD's. Who's are smaller and not as soft.
A lot of people use Flergs' shadow styles she offered on her blog for free and gave permission to designers to use on previews. That's where the shadows come from.
A lot of people use Flergs' shadow styles she offered on her blog for free and gave permission to designers to use on previews. That's where the shadows come from.
April 27, 2009 6:40 PM ------------------------------- except they are not the same shadows
And no one would ever guess how many digiscrappers were so obsessed with other people's lives. Trying to tear other people down further to make themselves feel better.
Do you ever hear anything good posted on this blog? Rarely. It's a bunch of bitter women who haven't grown up since high school.
Why do I keep reading? It's like a train wreck, I have to keep watching the way you all behave hoping that none of you are people that I would call a friend.
And no one would ever guess how many digiscrappers were so obsessed with other people's lives. Trying to tear other people down further to make themselves feel better.
I have to keep watching the way you all behave hoping that none of you are people that I would call a friend.
April 27, 2009 7:30 PM
Right back at ya! ;)
I'd much rather have friends who are honest and can handle the truth even when it isn't all sugary sweet and sunshiney. I'd also hope that my friends would have better things to do than sitting around and trying to handslap and preach at people that they don't like.
Is it possible that Lilyann knows Dycho errr AD from the paper industry and they are friends. BOTH friends with Krause.
SO LA is friends with Dykan and has really shit judgment for a mentor.
So know she is enamored with Dykan in Digi, and is learning the digi biz from her. Since Dyko "credits" that way: naturally she would too... That's how she was shown to.
Now, with all that being said:
the w9's -- SO WHAT. How hard is it to make up a freakin SS#. 90% of W9s do not ever even get turned in. They dont HAVE to be turned in unless the designer sells more then $500 of merch. Otherwise the store owner just files it away and no one ever sees the damned thing.
for the stock photos - that is a possiblity. MANY models pose for "spreads" for stock. Not just single photos. So it is entirely possible for the same model to be in a single shot, or a family shot with OTHER MODELS. They are all getting paid...
for the doodles - I would say they LA was "inspired" by Genevieve ( or what ever her name is) who was "inspired" by rubber stamps by the Angel Company from the 2005-06 catalog. A loose copy of a loose copy of a loose copy. NONE of them are original AT ALL LOL...
So we can safely conclude that LA is, at minimum, FRIENDS/MENTORED by AD. They BOTH have no problem borrowing other designers ideas damn near close enough to be considered copying.
Bad news all the way around. Avoid them all like the plague. I can not BELIEVE stores and sites that "WANT" to be considered reputable keep associating with AD.
Do you ever hear anything good posted on this blog? Rarely. It's a bunch of bitter women who haven't grown up since high school. -----------------------
First, yes, I have seen some good posted on this blog, but hey, it's a smack blog, sheesh. Second, there are some people here who are just looking for trouble, others are trying to figure things out and yet others are just here for the entertainment. We aren't all bitter women. What a limited view of the world you have.
Thanks for the hand slap and sanctimonious attitude.
I don't know if it's a Texas thing, but Amanda and LilyAnne have a lot of the same speech patterns in the forums. I know when you speak to people they would, but when writing do they? Something to think about.
April 27, 2009 4:13 AM
^^^^
How can you tell? That's just grasping for evidence to prove your point.
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What do you mean, how can I tell? I checked their posts and they write the same way, doh! Besides, I was asking a question, so, umm, no grasping for evidence to prove my point.
Anyone think about the fact that Amanda Dykan could have been the reference for LiliAnne Taylor at SO????
April 27, 2009 6:39 PM
You honestly think anyone would accept Amanda Dykan as a reference? And that a paper company would lie and provide a reference for Lilyanne/Amanda?
Didn't Amanda Kay sell with Amanda Dykan at Purple Paper Flowers too? That is just a little suspicious. And Then Amanda Kay ends up on Lilyanne's creative team but doesn't know it's Amanda Dykan, after all that time working with Amanda Dykan?
I think LA was just looking up to AD and using her as a mentor. Too bad the mentor she chose was the "green goblin" of the digiscrap community.
A great question, and one the DST powers that be should be looking into is WHY exactly LA had access to AD's DST log in information, which she obviously logged in under the wrong account with her welcome post.
I'd bet Dykan was letting her use her account to read "tips" in the DCR when she needed info.
DST should just ban Dykan, for granting access to the private designer forum to someone who didn't have access.
I'll be sad when Dykan finally gives up on digi. Who else could ever provide such fantastic trainwrecks? LOL...
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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My bad.
April 26, 2009 5:51 PM
lol! Give someone enough rope . . .
April 26, 2009 5:58 PM
Yep!
This doesn't concern you, so why are you posting about it?
April 26, 2009 5:36 PM
It does not? You know this how? Seems someone is getting a little nervous. I will continue to post and if you do not like it, then maybe you should refrain from posting.
It does not? You know this how? Seems someone is getting a little nervous. I will continue to post and if you do not like it, then maybe you should refrain from posting.
April 26, 2009 6:17 PM
No it doesn't concern you at all. YOU are the one who needs to refrain from posting!
When are all you stupid scrappers going to learn that you don't have a right to know anything unless WE see fit to let you know? This whole Amanda and Lily Anne thing doesn't concern you at all, so just shut up about it and quit asking questions!!
What happens if all these crazy accusations and assumptions turn out to be untrue?
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That would be great. I would love for them to be untrue.
All this will die down eventually. She is so new to the digi community Lilyanne may not even know about this blog. If nothing else it has brought her work to our attention and that might garner a few sales. So all will not be lost.
But someone broached this subject and it is our nature to speculate. I think it just need to run it's course.
I think even if we aren't speculating whether they are the same people, we are going to speculate about why SO and ES dumped her.
You have no right to speculate! Quit asking questions that don't concern you
When are all you stupid scrappers going to learn that you don't have a right to know anything unless WE see fit to let you know? This whole Amanda and Lily Anne thing doesn't concern you at all, so just shut up about it and quit asking questions!!
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You know maybe you should not be reading this blog.
If SO sent you here for damage control, you are not helping.
I never said CR lied, but someone said they didn't know of any designer that popped right onto the scene and I mentioned one. Anne de Jong was another, as far as I know. I stress that I'm not saying they are liars etc, just that it does happen that designers pop up out of nowhere and are instantly popular.
I sense a lot of this drama being created by designers who have not been as successful as this LilyAnne person.
Check this out - see the chairs and table in the preview
http://www.amandadykan.com/shoppe/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=169
and now check this one
http://www.shabbypickledesigns.com/boutique/product.php?productid=17280&cat=0&page=1
Not sure what that means. They are the same person or they are using the same stock resource and claiming it as their own. Weird, don't you think?
I sense a lot of this drama being created by designers who have not been as successful as this LilyAnne person.
April 26, 2009 6:30 PM
ding, ding, ding! We have a winner.
Not sure what that means. They are the same person or they are using the same stock resource and claiming it as their own. Weird, don't you think?
April 26, 2009 6:31 PM
They could be using the same CU resources, Sparky. Just quit asking questions and let the people who need to deal with it! You don't need to know ANYTHING about this unless someone involved sees fit to let you know!
Hello Smackers,
This is Kami from Scrap Orchard. I'd just like to clear a couple things up.
First, Scrap Orchard would never knowingly hire a designer who was pretending to be someone other than who they really are. In fact, as we do with all our designers, we require references and a w-9.
Second, the terms of LilyAnne's departure from Scrap Orchard are not open for discussion and not something we will be sharing. Legally, that is not something we are able to do. Just as any employer, we are not at liberty to discuss personnel issues with the public. If you for some reason feel that your personal information is somehow compromised due to LilyAnne's brief association with Scrap Orchard, please feel free to contact us at customerservice@scraporchard.com and we will certainly address your individual concerns.
Lastly, for reasons we are not able to disclose, we're certain the person posing here as a Scrap Orchard Designers is not in any way affiliated with our store. Please keep in mind, anyone can claim to be anyone they want when they are posting anonymously.
Ultimately, our customers are extremely important to us, as is our design team, and we treat all of them with the utmost respect and professionalism. Feel free to contact any of us individually with any concerns you might have.
Kami
kami@scraporchard.com
Shauna
shauna@scraporchard.com
Melisa
mel@scraporchard.com
We have no right to speculate?
Wow, I had no idea I didn't have a right to review something idly or casually and often inconclusively or to meditate on or ponder a subject.
Thank you for informing me of my rights on this blog.
You have no right to speculate! Quit asking questions that don't concern you
April 26, 2009 6:24 PM
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I have every right to speculate. Freedom of Speech and all that. I have never shopped at SO and since that store has been mentioned in this drama and along comes you, I'm never going to shop there.
more popcorn, anyone?
So if LilyAnne provided references and a w-9, how could she be Amanda Dykan?
Thank you for informing me of my rights on this blog.
April 26, 2009 6:33 PM
You're welcome, now shut up and spend.
Not sure what that means. They are the same person or they are using the same stock resource and claiming it as their own. Weird, don't you think?
April 26, 2009 6:31 PM
They could be using the same CU resources, Sparky. ---------
Duh! That's what I said, Not Sparky. I have no idea who you are, but I have a very good idea of what you are.
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Just quit asking questions and let the people who need to deal with it!
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I can ask as many questions as I like. My questions, in fact, all our questions, don't stop anyone from dealing with the situation.
You know maybe you should not be reading this blog.
If SO sent you here for damage control, you are not helping.
April 26, 2009 6:29 PM
Yes, she was sent over for damage control but not by SO. :) And yup, she is only fueling the fire.
They could be using the same CU resources, Sparky. Just quit asking questions and let the people who need to deal with it! You don't need to know ANYTHING about this unless someone involved sees fit to let you know!
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How are they using the same CU resources when LilyAnne's doodles ARE CU? She can't take someone else's CU doodles and resell them as CU doodles. So how would Amanda have used the same doodles that LilyAnne is selling as CU before LilyAnne even existed as a digi designer?
I'd say that's all the proof I needed
I think the person not wanting us to ask questions is Amanda and/or LilyAnne.
I believe Kami truly doesn't think it is a SO designer.
I'm the designer from SO that posted earlier, how do you know we don't read here? I read here, and I know of 2 other designers I talk to at SO that read here.
I'm not saying that she wasn't kicked out over the accusations of being Amanda Dykan, however, I'm saying I was told it was for something unrelated to that.
April 26, 2009 5:47 PM
It's pretty obvious that Scrap Orchard people read here. Posts from Bren Boone and Kami just kind of support some of the things the anon SO designer was saying.
I sense a lot of this drama being created by designers who have not been as successful as this LilyAnne person.
April 26, 2009 6:30 PM
ding, ding, ding! We have a winner.
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Not necessarily. Some of us are just customers.
Sorry, I just don't believe that these stores were innocently duped into doing business with Amanda Dykan in disguise. I think they knew who she was and chose to ignore it for a chance to make a quick buck. Then when the shite hits the fan, they just claim they were duped and kick her out of the store.
Not necessarily. Some of us are just customers.
April 26, 2009 6:53 PM
So, you're saying you had a hand in creating the drama? Because that's what was being said in the post that you quoted.
oh please, what are they going to gain by that?! Just because Joedee was willing to do it with Ashley Olson doesn't mean the rest of the digi world is really that stupid. That's so overreaching it's sad.
So, many designers will just do a collab with anyone? Nice to know
So, many designers will just do a collab with anyone? Nice to know
April 26, 2009 6:57 PM
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Three designers is SO MANY? Since when? Considering the huge number of designers out there, I'd hardly call three designers a lot.
oh please, what are they going to gain by that?! Just because Joedee was willing to do it with Ashley Olson doesn't mean the rest of the digi world is really that stupid. That's so overreaching it's sad.
April 26, 2009 6:56 PM
Learn to read. They stand to gain a quick buck, which is all they care about in the first place.
Thinking that people are stupid enough to believe that all these designers and stores just jumped blindly into business with a TOTAL unknown is what's overreaching and sad.
Check this out - see the chairs and table in the preview
http://www.amandadykan.com/shoppe/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=169
and now check this one
http://www.shabbypickledesigns.com/boutique/product.php?productid=17280&cat=0&page=1
How are they using the same CU resources when LilyAnne's doodles ARE CU? She can't take someone else's CU doodles and resell them as CU doodles. So how would Amanda have used the same doodles that LilyAnne is selling as CU before LilyAnne even existed as a digi designer?
I'd say that's all the proof I needed
April 26, 2009 6:48 PM
Well if this just doesn't clench it for you all then I do not know what to say. Bottom line is- Amanda Dykan is pretending to be LilyAnne and for those of you who do not believe it then what?? LilyAnne is a pirate? That kit was out way before "LillyAnne" doodles. What a fricken nightmare.
Sorry, I just don't believe that these stores were innocently duped into doing business with Amanda Dykan in disguise. I think they knew who she was and chose to ignore it for a chance to make a quick buck. Then when the shite hits the fan, they just claim they were duped and kick her out of the store.
April 26, 2009 6:54 PM
Have to agree. And if they are requiring that designers have references and w-9s, then how did Amanda aka LilyAnne just slip by them??
Well if this just doesn't clench it for you all then I do not know what to say. Bottom line is- Amanda Dykan is pretending to be LilyAnne and for those of you who do not believe it then what??
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So how did she dupe Scrap Orchard, Shabby Pickle, and Sweet Shoppe into selling her kits?
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=17142&cat=332&page=1
Sweet Genieveve has had these doodles out forever and a day-maybe Amanda and Lily Anne were using THOSE
Wow, you know the found OJ not guilty with more evidence than shown here. I'm not saying don't ask questions and all that but assumptions are a whole different thing.
Yeah, the doodles look the same, but that doesn't mean they are the same person. That's a huge leap.
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=17142&cat=332&page=1
Sweet Genieveve has had these doodles out forever and a day-maybe Amanda and Lily Anne were using THOSE
April 26, 2009 7:09 PM
And so it is okay for this "LilyAnne" person to resale them for commercial use? You are not that naive right?
maybe the whole digi world consists of one or two designers who are all pretending to be hundreds of different people!! The nerve!
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=17142&cat=332&page=1
Sweet Genieveve has had these doodles out forever and a day-maybe Amanda and Lily Anne were using THOSE
April 26, 2009 7:09 PM
And so it is okay for this "LilyAnne" person to resale them for commercial use? You are not that naive right?
April 26, 2009 7:13 PM
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The one sold by LilyAnne is different. There's a vase on the table, the legs on the chairs and table are more sturdy.
So how did she dupe Scrap Orchard, Shabby Pickle, and Sweet Shoppe into selling her kits?
April 26, 2009 7:05 PM
Nobody was duped. Laura knows full well what is going on right now and is choosing to ignore it.
And so it is okay for this "LilyAnne" person to resale them for commercial use? You are not that naive right?
April 26, 2009 7:13 PM
*sigh* SG sold these for CU for a loong time. Any number of people could have bought and used them.
Are you a product of homeschooling?
Nobody was duped. Laura knows full well what is going on right now and is choosing to ignore it.
April 26, 2009 7:16 PM
Unless you ARE Laura you can't say that for certain.
And Laura aside, how did Scrap Orchard and Sweet Shoppe fall for this if they are careful about who they allow to sell in their stores??????
wv=table
Oh, the irony!
It is really pretty clear that AD used G's doodles to make her kit. She also used the flower with leaves, hat, and Eiffel tower from G's set. And LilyAnne's look like they are definitely "inspired"(pretty much copied, IMO) but if you look closely, they are not the exact same doodles. There are small differences.
Lastly, for reasons we are not able to disclose, we're certain the person posing here as a Scrap Orchard Designers is not in any way affiliated with our store.
Hahahaha. Riiiight. You're CERTAIN.
Amanda also used G's poodle in her kit.
And so it is okay for this "LilyAnne" person to resale them for commercial use? You are not that naive right?
April 26, 2009 7:13 PM
*sigh* SG sold these for CU for a loong time. Any number of people could have bought and used them.
Are you a product of homeschooling?
April 26, 2009 7:17 PM
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You must be a product of public schooling, right? You can't buy CU and then sell it as CU, doh!
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=17142&cat=332&page=1
Sweet Genieveve has had these doodles out forever and a day-maybe Amanda and Lily Anne were using THOSE
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Well it looks like LilyAnne copied those, that or it looks like she might have even taken them and added a few things here or there because they are very very similar.. look at the ends of the legs, the one in the back curves exactly the same as LilyAnne's
What's to stop someone from just putting whatever they want on a W9? What does the form ask for and how is the information verified?
People, come on. The doodles are not the issue.
Do you REALLY believe that Amanda Dykan was able to somehow trick Faith True, Bren Boone and Misty Cato into doing collabs with her less than a month after appearing on the digi scene? With no other web footprint? And do you REALLY believe that the store owners at Shabby Pickle, Scrap Orchard, and Sweet Shoppe just blindly said ok to selling these kits in their shops?? If they REALLY require references, w9's, etc. then HOW did this happen?
You must be a product of public schooling, right? You can't buy CU and then sell it as CU, doh!
April 26, 2009 7:26 PM
It has been done before. And by Amanda Dykan no less.
I hope you have adult supervision when you leave the house.
*sigh* SG sold these for CU for a loong time. Any number of people could have bought and used them.
Are you a product of homeschooling?
April 26, 2009 7:17 PM
I get that Einstein but since when do you buy commercial use items and think it is okay to resale them as ANOTHER commercial use item. That would be illegal. No, I am not a product of home schooling and fail to see what that has to do with anything or what is wrong with home schooling. Cunt much?
I get that Einstein but since when do you buy commercial use items and think it is okay to resale them as ANOTHER commercial use item. That would be illegal. No, I am not a product of home schooling and fail to see what that has to do with anything or what is wrong with home schooling. Cunt much?
April 26, 2009 7:33 PM
rofl! How stupid are you?
People are repacking and selling CU and PU stuff every damn day. No one said it was right-just that it happens all the time.
spot on 7:30.
You people are way too easily distracted. The question that needs to be answered is how Amanda pulled this one off if stores are as careful as they say they are.
There is no verification of a W-9 because it is signed under penalties of perjury.
We don't know that Amanda Dykan or LilyAnne Taylor are even their reals names. So who knows what was entered on the W-9.
7:32 pm- you are an absolute imbecile.
She is saying that you are not supposed to sell commercial items for commercial use. She is not saying that you can't, or that someone won't. It is just common sense not to do it.
It is quite obvious, just like you can't, by law, be a pedophile- but it sure doesn't stop you......
I hope you have adult supervision in your 4x4 jail cell.
JTY
I get that Einstein but since when do you buy commercial use items and think it is okay to resale them as ANOTHER commercial use item. That would be illegal.
I agree with this. Even if this LilyAnne is not Amanda, what she is doing with modifying and using SG's doodles is not ok.
I mean really. Does everyone not remember Amanda posting this video on penscrappers showing how to trace and modify a doodle? http://www.penscrappers.com/2008/12/01/amanda-dykan-2/
I am guessing that in her mind if she changes it a little bit, it is ok. She doesn't seem to have learned her lesson. Maybe if she had just tried to be original and create her own art in the first place this would not have all blown up.
You people are way too easily distracted. The question that needs to be answered is how Amanda pulled this one off if stores are as careful as they say they are.
April 26, 2009 7:39 PM
This.
People, come on. The doodles are not the issue.
Do you REALLY believe that Amanda Dykan was able to somehow trick Faith True, Bren Boone and Misty Cato into doing collabs with her less than a month after appearing on the digi scene? With no other web footprint? And do you REALLY believe that the store owners at Shabby Pickle, Scrap Orchard, and Sweet Shoppe just blindly said ok to selling these kits in their shops?? If they REALLY require references, w9's, etc. then HOW did this happen?
April 26, 2009 7:30 PM
It happened and it will continue to happen unless new measures are implemented into these stores. With identity theft so ramped it is not even safe to just fill out a w9 and send in a photocopy of an ID because it could be anyone's ID, a friend, a sister, a stranger, a neighbor.. who knows!! Things need to be much more strict and ran better with background checks and such.
No one said that reselling CU is ok. Christ. Focus and return to the issue at hand.
These stores and designers are claiming they were tricked into doing business with Amanda. Bullshit.
Why would they assume every new designer was some pirate in disguise?
Obviously, these stores are not at all careful about identity and documentation.
Shocker
Why would they assume every new designer was some pirate in disguise?
April 26, 2009 7:49 PM
Why WOULDN'T they use some common sense and caution when taking on new employees?
Srsly, they need to start requiring fingerprints, a DNA sample, and signed affidavits from at least 5 people proving that they are who they say they are. Scrapbooking is very serious business.
Why would they assume every new designer was some pirate in disguise?
April 26, 2009 7:49 PM
Well when you have people like Amanda Dykan running wild you must always be on the lookout. It's unfortunate but true.
IF all this is true, I'll bet Amanda is having one hell of a good laugh at the digi community.
I think I'll stick to stores that run their business professionally. Looks like I don't have many choices at all.
Did SG actually draw those doodles or did she acquire them somewhere else?
Srsly, they need to start requiring fingerprints, a DNA sample, and signed affidavits from at least 5 people proving that they are who they say they are. Scrapbooking is very serious business.
April 26, 2009 8:01 PM
Brillant 8:01!!
These are all very, very, good ideas! Keep the idea coming sweetie. Who knows perhaps you can get a job out of all this.
We need more space-
purdy please!
Do you REALLY think that those designers and stores were innocent victims of Amanda Dykan?? Highly doubtful.
But either way (greedy crooks or really stupid) they don't look very good right now.
I think I'll stick to stores that run their business professionally. Looks like I don't have many choices at all.
April 26, 2009 8:04 PM
now what is your definition of professional? personally, i think it's professional when a store fires someone for doing something illegal and then refuses to gossip and smear that persons name for no other reason than to be nasty and malicious... but apparently quite a few of your disagree.
I just watched the AD doodle video and at the end she even states that you can recolor the doodle and use it in your digital kits. She doe not address copy right issues. As the Head of Design and Education for a national scrapbook store chain (as indicated in her bio) I would think she would have mentioned that.
I can only think of one store that is run totally professionally with SSL, etc. And I don't think their CS is all that great.
Digi sucks. Too many SAHMs that think they can run a "business"
IF all this is true, I'll bet Amanda is having one hell of a good laugh at the digi community.
April 26, 2009 8:02 PM
I can hear the cackling now.
there's no proof that anyone did anything illegal.
i think it's professional when a store fires someone for doing something illegal and then refuses to gossip and smear that persons name for no other reason than to be nasty and malicious... but apparently quite a few of your disagree.
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I agree. Neither ES or SO kept her around very long. Maybe as soon as they realized the issue (whatever the issue truly is) they quietly got rid of her.
If it wasn't for whoever put up the fake screen shot, we wouldn't even know there was an issue.
Many years ago when I discovered an embezzlement, I had a few lawyers suggest that we quietly get rid of the person. They said banks do it all the time. That way business keeps going and it doesn't cause customer panic.
there's no proof that anyone did anything illegal.
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no there isn't. but i don't think that two stores got rid of her because they didn't like her blond hair.
We need more space-
purdy please!
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We don't need more space. Just use your older and newer buttons. Or are you wanting new space so the topic will change?
now what is your definition of professional? personally, i think it's professional when a store fires someone for doing something illegal and then refuses to gossip and smear that persons name for no other reason than to be nasty and malicious... but apparently quite a few of your disagree.
April 26, 2009 8:11 PM
I'm assuming you are talking about Scrap Orchard. They are correct and professional in the way the handled this. It could very well open up to a lawsuit had they divulged any sort of employee information. They came in and spoke without giving any personal information. Which is more than I can say for the shabby pickle.
I can only think of one store that is run totally professionally with SSL, etc. And I don't think their CS is all that great.
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What store would that be? I can think of a few
SBG
DSP
SBB
Designer Digitals
Maybe Shabby Pickle is waiting for some PROOF
What has the shabby pickle said? How can you know what anyone said on an anon blog?
I think I'll stick to stores that run their business professionally. Looks like I don't have many choices at all.
April 26, 2009 8:04 PM
come on! who cares! we all just want the gossip. that's what it boils down too. none of these issues have any bearing on us, our lives or our families. we just love the drama and WE WANT TO KNOW! i'm not afraid to say it! i love the juicy details. why do we have to pretend to be indignant and self-righteous. why can't we just speculate and theorize and... hell, if nobody will tell us, let's make up something, cuz it's sure to be better than the truth!
i'll start
lilyanne got fired because kami caught her having sex with her husband, but what nobody knows is that kami and bren are secretly lesbian lovers and are planning on running off to some tropical island where they're going to start their own lesbian digi store and make kits centered completely around boobies!!
if SO was professional, they never would have been doing business with her in the first place. Same with ES, SP, and SSD.
Oh ok. You were meaning that Shabby Pickles hasn't said anything.
So if stores like SO "require references," I guess they didn't check LilyAnne's???
So if stores like SO "require references," I guess they didn't check LilyAnne's???
April 26, 2009 8:35 PM
^^ just an oopsie!!
What kind of references do the stores require? I thought it would be more digital references. Like do you have a presence at a digi site, what challenges have you participated in, where have you been posting your layouts. Do they check real life references? Do they care about who you really are?
Other than needing a W-9 for tax pruposes and needing your address so they can mail you a 1099. Do they need to know much about your real life?
Are you suggesting that they need real live references just to sell digital kits?
Amanda can be quite charming and present herself in a pretty good light. Just read her bios at her various sites and blogs.
So if as LilyAnne she approached the designers and the shops, I can see how they would be duped. I don't think it is just about the money.
But then I am merely speculating here. Don't have proof of nuttin.
even if they don't require real live references, shouldn't they have checked out her digi history? Or the fact that there was none?
And why not require real live referenes? That's what real professionals with real businesses do.
now what is your definition of professional? personally, i think it's professional when a store fires someone for doing something illegal and then refuses to gossip and smear that persons name for no other reason than to be nasty and malicious... but apparently quite a few of your disagree
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Here! Here!
lilyanne got fired because kami caught her having sex with her husband, but what nobody knows is that kami and bren are secretly lesbian lovers and are planning on running off to some tropical island where they're going to start their own lesbian digi store and make kits centered completely around boobies!!
April 26, 2009 8:29 PM
This is great and oh so true! We come here looking for the drama and smut, then when we find it we all run around acting all shocked and mortified. LOL Thanks for lightening things up.
Do you REALLY think that those designers and stores were innocent victims of Amanda Dykan?? Highly doubtful.
But either way (greedy crooks or really stupid) they don't look very good right now.
April 26, 2009 8:09 PM
Hear hear!
if SO was professional, they never would have been doing business with her in the first place. Same with ES, SP, and SSD.
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That is not necessarily so. They didn't do business with her for very long. Being professional doesn't mean you don't make mistakes. It means you can identify your mistakes in a timely fashion and take steps to rectify them with a minimum of loss.
I doubt that the stores are responsible for the person who posted the fake screen shot and started this whole drama.
And why not require real live referenes? That's what real professionals with real businesses do.
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I don't think that the majority of the online digi scrap shops are real professionals with real businesses. Hence you are not going to see things done the way it would be done in the real world.
So if stores like SO "require references," I guess they didn't check LilyAnne's???
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Do stores actually require references? I've never tried to sell at a store so I don't know how a store gets their designers.
You all live in fantasy land.
People get fired from "real businesses" everyday for lying, stealing and cheating.
Bunch of nincompoops on this blog.
JTY
That tropical island is sounding real good.
You all live in fantasy land.
People get fired from "real businesses" everyday for lying, stealing and cheating.
Bunch of nincompoops on this blog.
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What are you talking about???
Some of you are so naive, it's a wonder you manage to get around and do what you have to do every day.
You can do all the background checks you want, but if a person has no criminal history nor done anything wrong, it's not going to show up, is it? No, of course not.
There is no proof at all that shows LilyAnne and Amanda are the same person. It's pure speculation. I have no problem with that, or I wouldn't be here. But to state it as fact, that's crap.
And why not require real live referenes? That's what real professionals with real businesses do.
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Yeah, and you know what? They get ripped off too. It happens, it's a fact of life.
Personal references? Background checks? Seriously?
How much do (some of) you think these stores are making exactly? As much as I love this community- let's be honest, this isn't exactly the Fortune 500...
The amazing part of this to me is that a good number of you seem to think it's difficult to pretend to be someone you're not online as you post anonymously! Oh, the sweet irony...
Bat Signal!
You are all ridiculous. You can get a job at a bank or through security at the airport easier than what you're asking these stores to do.
You are all ridiculous. You can get a job at a bank or through security at the airport easier than what you're asking these stores to do.
April 26, 2009 9:42 PM
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Not all of us are ridiculous, some of us realize the reality.
This is just knee jerk reacting. Something bad happens and people want to change the rules so that something bad can't happen again. The problem is you can not anticipate all the bad things that can happen. It is impossible to prevent every bad thing from ever happening. The best thing is to be able to identify the problems and take corrective measures when they happen. It seems this is what has happened so as far as I am concerned ES and SO have handled things appropriately. LilyAnne is not at their stores any longer and life will go on.
The best thing is to be able to identify the problems and take corrective measures when they happen. It seems this is what has happened so as far as I am concerned ES and SO have handled things appropriately. LilyAnne is not at their stores any longer
So what's up with SP then? Why do they think that it is ok for her to still be selling there?
Well I'm sure Faith True is having another meltdown- all of that work just to be pulled.
So what's up with SP then? Why do they think that it is ok for her to still be selling there?
April 26, 2009 10:04 PM
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It is possible that she was asked to leave SO for a different reason than what's been thrown out on this blog. We don't know what happened. Why should SP ask her to leave based on speculation from a smack blog?
She left ES because she got a spot with SO a few days after signing on with ES.
time for bed, can't wait to see what crops up overnight.
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translation=cause in fact there is something fishy going on
Some similarities between AD & LT layouts.. they both have their drop shadows at the top.. unusual in the land of digi, most people have it at 120 degrees.
Check out their galleries too, and this little girl, photo taken by Kristy Krouse who I gather is her best friend.
http://www.amandadykan.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=116
This little girl looks an awful lot like LT little girl here.
http://scraporchard.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32773&ppuser=12036
She left ES because she got a spot with SO a few days after signing on with ES.
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Yeah but someone posted a thread a while back at ES asking if LilyAnne was leaving because her blinkie said exclusively at SO or something like that and they were told she wouldn't be leaving until May
It's not May yet and she just happens to leave ES suddenly the same day as SO? Yeah, I don't think so.
LT is also apparently a designer bud subscriber.
http://www.amandadykan.com/forum/member.php?u=1050
And on her creative team
http://www.amandadykan.com/forum/showgroups.php
And scroll down to the bottom... also a SUPER MODERATOR!!!
Smells fishy to me, oh and if you are a member of her forum, make sure you log out if you don't want the your username on the profile views.
Interesting, another reference to Chuck Norris.. could AD have been trying to discredit the screenshot by sticking Chucks name on it....
http://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=402486&postcount=14
here she claims she doesn't have kids.. but her layout sounds like she does..
http://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=394605&postcount=19
http://scraporchard.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32773&ppuser=12036
Still smells fishy
Check out their galleries too, and this little girl, photo taken by Kristy Krouse who I gather is her best friend.
http://www.amandadykan.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=116
This little girl looks an awful lot like LT little girl here.
http://scraporchard.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=32773&ppuser=12036
April 26, 2009 10:28 PM
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You are kidding, right? How you can possibly tell? One girl has her face half hidden by her hands. Most little girls would look the same in those poses. Sheesh.
You are kidding, right? How you can possibly tell? One girl has her face half hidden by her hands. Most little girls would look the same in those poses. Sheesh.
April 26, 2009 10:48 PM
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http://www.amandadykan.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=187
Ok try this one then..
Well her facebook friends are mostly well known designers. Of course she and Amanda are in the same network.
Id on't think the two girls look alike at all. One has curly hair and one has straight hair.
I think you are reaching with those photos. And look at that, Amanda as LilyAnne even invented and Photoshopped herself another husband.
LT also has Kristy Krouse as a friend on facebook. Plus, her first friend after she joined facebook, was Amanda Dykan going by her profile.
I think you are reaching with those photos. And look at that, Amanda as LilyAnne even invented and Photoshopped herself another husband.
April 26, 2009 11:15 PM
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I don't know about you, but that looks like a stock photo to me.
Id on't think the two girls look alike at all. One has curly hair and one has straight hair.
April 26, 2009 11:04 PM
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Haven't you heard of hair straighteners/curlers? You don't think they do hair up for dance recitals?
I don't know about you, but that looks like a stock photo to me.
April 26, 2009 11:40 PM
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But she's in it, oh wait, the avatar pic is also a stock photo? Reaching, just a bit.
I don't know if it's a Texas thing, but Amanda and LilyAnne have a lot of the same speech patterns in the forums. I know when you speak to people they would, but when writing do they? Something to think about.
I don't know if it's a Texas thing, but Amanda and LilyAnne have a lot of the same speech patterns in the forums. I know when you speak to people they would, but when writing do they? Something to think about.
April 27, 2009 4:13 AM
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How can you tell? That's just grasping for evidence to prove your point.
I think she sounds like CR personally. That's it, maybe she's CR!
..and CR lives in the same neck of the woods!
*GASP* AD = Lily Anne = CRD
the pictures of those little girls don't look alike to me.
You know Amanda is associated with the paper industry. It's possible that they know each other through that??? They are both involved at Memory Mixers.
>http://www.amandadykan.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=187
>Ok try this one then..
>April 26, 2009 10:57 PM
What's curious about this the 'LilyAnne' layout is that not only do they use the exact same Linda Billdale cardboard, but they both say 'remaining', as in 'remaining items by'. I have never EVER seen crediting in this form before, yet 'both' these women do it. Most people say 'all other', or list the majour source first and the 'except'.
Strikes me as an odd coincidence.
And I can confirm that there is a deleted thread in the DCR by Amanda Dykan, dated 17 April, the same day as LilyAnne's Hi thread. AD hasn't otherwise posted in the DCR for months. Again, odd coincidence.
What's curious about this the 'LilyAnne' layout is that not only do they use the exact same Linda Billdale cardboard, but they both say 'remaining', as in 'remaining items by'. I have never EVER seen crediting in this form before, yet 'both' these women do it. Most people say 'all other', or list the majour source first and the 'except'.
Strikes me as an odd coincidence.
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I picked up on the crediting also, they "both" credit exactly the same way.
I just had to go look and sure enough, a deleted thread by AmandaDykan in the DCR on April 17th. Huh. Go figure. I guess I know which way I am leaning now. Sad. I feel bad for the girls who joined LilyAnnes CT. I would love to hear what they are being told at this point.
Just goes to show how dumb AD is. If she'd posted something else (saying nothing much even) and THEN deleted the mistake post with reason 'duplicate', likely nobody would have ever been any the wiser.
Stupid AND mad, an unfortunate combination.
wv: fishee
You know, juries have convicted people with nothing but circumstantial evidence.
While I don't agree with something like that involving human life, I do think there's enough of it in this case here. There's just way too many things that make you go Hmmmm....
Either Amanda and this Lilly chick are one in the same or LillyAnne has a serious hard-on for Amanda and is obsessing over her, wanting to BE her. Of the two choices, I would choose the more rational one of them being the same person.
Another fact, the first thread LilyAnne ever posted at DST was to the ES designer call. The same day she signed up at DST. So, it is very possible Amanda Dykan saw the post, and "created" LilyAnne that day.
You've never ever seen remaining items used in credits? So by your "proof" these people are also Amanda Dykan:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=252842
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=268344
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=328743
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=526969
The mystery post is a little weird and might connect with the proof above. But it could also be a set-up.
oh and I do my shadows from the top because I don't like my shadows from the bottom. I guess that makes me AD too!
whatever...
The best proof here is the fact that they both sell at Memory Mixer. They are connected. http://www.memorymixer.com/catalog/designs Where AD left off, LA took over.
Set Up? In what way? Someone came along, predicted LilyAnne was going to post a Hi thread (almost nobody posts a Hi thread in the DCR by the way), hacked Amanda Dykan's account, posted something, deleted it, and a few minutes later LilyAnne does indeed make a Hi post? Why?
Why else would Amanda Dykan make and immediately delete a post, her first in the DCR for literally months, unless it was posted by mistake? If it was, why didn't she post anything else in replacement or just edit it?
If Ms Dykan has auto login selected at DST like most people, it would be a very easy mistake to make to post under the 'wrong' account. With all the other, admittedly circumstantial, evidence I am inclined to believe that's what happened. Amanda Dykan never was smart enough to cover her tracks, why would she be any different now?
Well no matter what LT and AD are definitely connected. My guess is that they are the same person but I know that there is no proof of that. But I am still entitled to my guess.
If it is true, why come here and vehemently deny it. I have no doubt that Amanda is posting here. Seriously, she needs to grow up and just own up to her stuff.
Oh, just to add, AD's post is timestamped at 08.02 (per screenshot) and LilyAnne's timestamped 08.05 (per DCR). This is in line with the posts either side of the deleted AD post, which are timestamped 7.14am and 9.55am. If the screenshot IS a fake, whoever did it has great attention to detail.
So you have to ask yourself. WHY would anyone want to 'set up' Lily Anne?
They'd have to have access to Amanda Dykan's DCR account (to post the deleted post) in order to setup the suspiscious deletion. Would have to know LilyAnne was going to post to the DCR and when, and precision timing to get it just right.
Or, could be opportunist, saw a deleted post, saw LilyAnne make a Hi post, decide to fake a screenshot of ADs deleted post. But why? She wasn't the only newcomer to the DCR that day, so why pick on her?
And that's before you even start to think about the collabs, the store hopping, etc etc.
I just think the balance of probability lies with AD being LillyAnne, more than it does with the whole thing being a setup.
Set Up? In what way? Someone came along, predicted LilyAnne was going to post a Hi thread (almost nobody posts a Hi thread in the DCR by the way), hacked Amanda Dykan's account, posted something, deleted it, and a few minutes later LilyAnne does indeed make a Hi post? Why?
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No, someone who is jealous of LA decided to bring her down and jumped on the opportunity of AD posting and deleting at that time. They altered a DST post to make it look like she is AD. And it works so well because of the connections.
It's just a theory. Just like everything else posted on this blog. And there are designers evil enough to alter evidence to bring someone down.
I almost think I'd rather see vengeful bitch MB go down than AD. Although... it's close. Maybe we'll get us a two-fer!
April 26, 2009 2:07 PM
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Hi there Jeanie P!
Thinking of pulling an "Amanda" too?
This is really out of hand and all so crazy. Amanda, if you are reading this, and I think that you are, just move on. No one can deny that you are talented, but your problem has always been trying to do too much at a time, be everywhere, take short cuts and be popular. You suck at multitasking. My best advice would be to start creating your OWN art, and getting into some other field of graphic design and move on from digital scrapbooking. Go design for childrens books or paper companies or something along those lines and make sure that all of your work is your own. Take the extra time to draw your own doodles and stay away from CU and stock illustrations. Do one thing and do it well. Just move on to something else. Digital scrapbooking is not the end all be all of the world. There are various avenues for you to use your skills. If the allegations are true, and I tend to believe they are, then this has hurt a lot of people. Just walk away and stay away. It's not the end of the world. Just move on please.
Wonderful advice 10:02. Now if we only thought for a minute that she'd actually get control of herself and do it.
http://www.memorymixer.com/catalog/designs/585-Almost-Like-Love-Alphabet-Pack
http://www.memorymixer.com/catalog/designs/632-Love-Story-Alphabet-Pack
Jesus. H. Christ.
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Jesus. H. Christ.
April 27, 2009 10:30 AM
I'm with ya on that one.
Someone pass the pogo stick.
Here's someone who is/was on 'both' AD and LA's CTs. Wonder if she knew she was CTing for a schizo?
http://merank.blogspot.com/
wv: phink, I phink therefore I am.
It feels like I've been beamed to an alternative planet. Non of this makes any sense.
No, someone who is jealous of LA decided to bring her down and jumped on the opportunity of AD posting and deleting at that time. They altered a DST post to make it look like she is AD. And it works so well because of the connections.
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and I've got some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale.
and I've got some ocean front property in Nebraska for sale.
Link please.
I just have to say thank GOODNESS I came onto the scrap scene! If not, man, you guys would have NOTHING else to talk about! Also, I want to thank you guys for thinking I'm LilyAnne. I love her stuff! I love it that you guys give me so much credit. Thanks!! I also really love that all of this is in writing. Really helps alot with my crazy, pycho, schitzo problems. Makes me realize the voices are, indeed, real. Whew. Was worried.
Where is LilyAnne? No posts to her blog or anywhere else for that matter.
Pay attention 12.32, these have been posted already (and if you couldnt be bothered to read the posts, you could always try Google)
Blog: http://imaginarycrackers.com/
Only remaining store: http://www.shabbypickledesigns.com/boutique/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=45
Amanda, the word is BUSTED.
Oh I've been paying attention. How else do you think I know that she hasn't posted to her blog or over at SP in days?
Misinterpreted your post, my bad.
Amanda, instead of coming on all defensive (which makes you appear guilty by the way) why don't you try and explain some of what is happening here.
April 27, 2009 12:31 PM
Makes you wonder what they did with their sad pathetic lives before you and smack blogs, doesn't it Amanda?
Poor mom down the street who they used their amateur Sherlock Holmes skills on so had someone they could talk shit about instead of examining their own lives and figuring out where they hell they went wrong and why they are so screwed up that they need to live off what is going on in other people's lives.
>Poor mom down the street who they used their amateur Sherlock Holmes skills on so had someone they could talk shit about
Yep, and look what happened to her. She ended up shooting Amanda Dykan's door out.
Amanda, instead of coming on all defensive (which makes you appear guilty by the way) why don't you try and explain some of what is happening here.
April 27, 2009 1:02 PM
***********************************Oh I don't think she was trying to be defensive at all. She was playing cute and trying to throw us off our line of thought. Cute doesn't work for you Amanda, you've screwed up one to many times.
Yep, and look what happened to her. She ended up shooting Amanda Dykan's door out.
ROFL!
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=vrwtc2&s=5
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=vrwtc2&s=5
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EXACT same shadowing on the previews.. just like the LOs
Makes you wonder what they did with their sad pathetic lives before you and smack blogs, doesn't it Amanda?
Poor mom down the street who they used their amateur Sherlock Holmes skills on so had someone they could talk shit about instead of examining their own lives and figuring out where they hell they went wrong and why they are so screwed up that they need to live off what is going on in other people's lives.
April 27, 2009 1:02 PM
Amanda, you've got to quit talking to yourself.
Seek help-you desperately need it.
I feel so sorry for Amanda's kids. I hope she'll get help for their sake.
I like amanda's alpha better.
3:30 PM- Don't talk about people's children. Amanda's or otherwise. There is a fine line here. It's been overstepped, but children are off limits.
piss off-the children were not smacked.
>I like amanda's alpha better.
>April 27, 2009 3:32 PM
Yeah, but which one?
So the whole reference thing has been bothering me, I mean if SO
supposedly checks all their references like they say they do, and if
LilyAnn Taylor is really Amanda Dykan then someone had to lie for her
right? Who would do that?! Sherlock Holmes that I am, I dug this up.
http://scraporchard.com/designerapplication.php
They want "Names & email address of 2-3 professional references
(preferably one from a store owner and one from a peer)"
Who is a store owner (that Amanda Dykan would know) a peer (designer)
and who she is obviously still in touch with? One name is answer to both
questions. Amanda Kay (owns Sunshine Studio Scraps, is a designer and is
on LilyAnn's CT right now)
Just a thought
Who is a store owner (that Amanda Dykan would know) a peer (designer)
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Memory Mixer never cut her loose. They probably gave a reference for Lilyanne.
I would think a paper company reference would be a pretty good one. And they don't get involved in this sort of crap.
My guess is that LA got dinged for using a CU product that she didn't purchase because it came out of AD's stash. When asked to produce proof of purchase, she was unable to do so without revealing that she's AD. Grounds for dismissal at that point. It was probably an MB CU product. She's mixed in this somehow. Always is.
Nice try AD, or should I call you LA?
Nice try AD, or should I call you LA?
April 27, 2009 5:23 PM
MORON, if that's AD and LA then they just posted something bad about themselves.
You must be MB to be using that response about the above post.
5:20: that's an interesting theory. Maybe not the part about MB but that would be a way to get caught when trying to be someone else!
You must be MB to be using that response about the above post.
I was responding the post above, but I'm not MB, get a life!
She's mixed in this somehow. Always is.
Too true! If not MB then SSD somewhere.
Forget about MB and SSD, I want the scoop on how those "Sunshine Girls" are in on this, I always knew there was something up there. Didn't AD sell there for a long time?
Oh look, Blythe Evans must be Amanda and LilyAnne too, she does her shadowing the same way on her previews:
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=20753&cat=309&page=4
I want the scoop on how those "Sunshine Girls" are in on this
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They're not. That's just stupid. If that was the case why didn't LA just go to there instead of ES and then SO?
I was responding the post above, but I'm not MB, get a life!
April 27, 2009 5:46 PM
Your response still doesn't make sense to think it was AD/LA posting who the reference was. She doesn't want you to know about the Memory Mixer connection. Trust me!
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EXACT same shadowing on the previews.. just like the LOs
April 27, 2009 3:14 PM
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Drop shadows up top instead of down the bottom which is standard.
Oh look, Blythe Evans must be Amanda and LilyAnne too, she does her shadowing the same way on her previews:
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=20753&cat=309&page=4
April 27, 2009 5:59 PM
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Unusual she does them up too, but they are definately not the same as LT & AD's. Who's are smaller and not as soft.
Anyone think about the fact that Amanda Dykan could have been the reference for LiliAnne Taylor at SO????
A lot of people use Flergs' shadow styles she offered on her blog for free and gave permission to designers to use on previews. That's where the shadows come from.
A lot of people use Flergs' shadow styles she offered on her blog for free and gave permission to designers to use on previews. That's where the shadows come from.
April 27, 2009 6:40 PM
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except they are not the same shadows
Does anyone not find it strange that LilyAnne is both a part of the bud club and a super moderator on Amanda's forum??
6:53, all of this is beyond strange.
Totally messed up. Lots of sick and twisted people out there, but never would have guessed that so many of them are digi scrappers!
Yeah, I'd have pegged the REAL crazies as paste-eaters ;)
Yeah, I'd have pegged the REAL crazies as paste-eaters ;)
April 27, 2009 7:27 PM
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Giggle, ahh, but both LT & AD were originally paste-eaters........
April 27, 2009 7:23 PM
And no one would ever guess how many digiscrappers were so obsessed with other people's lives. Trying to tear other people down further to make themselves feel better.
Do you ever hear anything good posted on this blog? Rarely. It's a bunch of bitter women who haven't grown up since high school.
Why do I keep reading? It's like a train wreck, I have to keep watching the way you all behave hoping that none of you are people that I would call a friend.
And no one would ever guess how many digiscrappers were so obsessed with other people's lives. Trying to tear other people down further to make themselves feel better.
Oh goodie! Amanda/LilyAnne is back!! :D
It's a bunch of bitter women who haven't grown up since high school.
April 27, 2009 7:30 PM
I completely agree with you about DST!
(tic)
I have to keep watching the way you all behave hoping that none of you are people that I would call a friend.
April 27, 2009 7:30 PM
Right back at ya! ;)
I'd much rather have friends who are honest and can handle the truth even when it isn't all sugary sweet and sunshiney. I'd also hope that my friends would have better things to do than sitting around and trying to handslap and preach at people that they don't like.
Is it possible that Lilyann knows Dycho errr AD from the paper industry and they are friends. BOTH friends with Krause.
SO LA is friends with Dykan and has really shit judgment for a mentor.
So know she is enamored with Dykan in Digi, and is learning the digi biz from her. Since Dyko "credits" that way: naturally she would too... That's how she was shown to.
Now, with all that being said:
the w9's -- SO WHAT. How hard is it to make up a freakin SS#. 90% of W9s do not ever even get turned in. They dont HAVE to be turned in unless the designer sells more then $500 of merch. Otherwise the store owner just files it away and no one ever sees the damned thing.
for the stock photos - that is a possiblity. MANY models pose for "spreads" for stock. Not just single photos. So it is entirely possible for the same model to be in a single shot, or a family shot with OTHER MODELS. They are all getting paid...
for the doodles - I would say they LA was "inspired" by Genevieve ( or what ever her name is) who was "inspired" by rubber stamps by the Angel Company from the 2005-06 catalog. A loose copy of a loose copy of a loose copy. NONE of them are original AT ALL
LOL...
So we can safely conclude that LA is, at minimum, FRIENDS/MENTORED by AD. They BOTH have no problem borrowing other designers ideas damn near close enough to be considered copying.
Bad news all the way around.
Avoid them all like the plague. I can not BELIEVE stores and sites that "WANT" to be considered reputable keep associating with AD.
Do you ever hear anything good posted on this blog? Rarely. It's a bunch of bitter women who haven't grown up since high school.
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First, yes, I have seen some good posted on this blog, but hey, it's a smack blog, sheesh. Second, there are some people here who are just looking for trouble, others are trying to figure things out and yet others are just here for the entertainment. We aren't all bitter women. What a limited view of the world you have.
Thanks for the hand slap and sanctimonious attitude.
I don't know if it's a Texas thing, but Amanda and LilyAnne have a lot of the same speech patterns in the forums. I know when you speak to people they would, but when writing do they? Something to think about.
April 27, 2009 4:13 AM
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How can you tell? That's just grasping for evidence to prove your point.
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What do you mean, how can I tell? I checked their posts and they write the same way, doh! Besides, I was asking a question, so, umm, no grasping for evidence to prove my point.
Anyone think about the fact that Amanda Dykan could have been the reference for LiliAnne Taylor at SO????
April 27, 2009 6:39 PM
You honestly think anyone would accept Amanda Dykan as a reference? And that a paper company would lie and provide a reference for Lilyanne/Amanda?
Didn't Amanda Kay sell with Amanda Dykan at Purple Paper Flowers too? That is just a little suspicious. And Then Amanda Kay ends up on Lilyanne's creative team but doesn't know it's Amanda Dykan, after all that time working with Amanda Dykan?
Sorry, not buying it.
I think LA was just looking up to AD and using her as a mentor. Too bad the mentor she chose was the "green goblin" of the digiscrap community.
A great question, and one the DST powers that be should be looking into is WHY exactly LA had access to AD's DST log in information, which she obviously logged in under the wrong account with her welcome post.
I'd bet Dykan was letting her use her account to read "tips" in the DCR when she needed info.
DST should just ban Dykan, for granting access to the private designer forum to someone who didn't have access.
I'll be sad when Dykan finally gives up on digi. Who else could ever provide such fantastic trainwrecks? LOL...
wv=reafer yes please. hehehe!
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