The rest of the story...a place to freely discuss "the hub of the digital scrapbook community"
Saturday, April 11, 2009
Happy Easter!
I told you I would be back around Easter! What has been going on around the digi scene? Looks like the Scrapper Awards are coming to DST soon, always some good controversy with those. National Scrapbook day coming hopefully some good sales.
Didn't Amanda Kay sell with Amanda Dykan at Purple Paper Flowers too? That is just a little suspicious. And Then Amanda Kay ends up on Lilyanne's creative team but doesn't know it's Amanda Dykan, after all that time working with Amanda Dykan?
Didn't they sell at Digital Candy together too? I heard that LA/AD were both RL friends with the owner of Digital Candy. How can they both be friends with her if they are the same person? And now Digital Candy owns that new site that is hosting ADs Bud Club.
I think LA was just looking up to AD and using her as a mentor. Too bad the mentor she chose was the "green goblin" of the digiscrap community.
A great question, and one the DST powers that be should be looking into is WHY exactly LA had access to AD's DST log in information, which she obviously logged in under the wrong account with her welcome post.
I'd bet Dykan was letting her use her account to read "tips" in the DCR when she needed info.
DST should just ban Dykan, for granting access to the private designer forum to someone who didn't have access.
I'll be sad when Dykan finally gives up on digi. Who else could ever provide such fantastic trainwrecks? LOL...
wv=reafer yes please. hehehe!OMG, NO one would be this stupid, to post this, other than AD herself!
Amanda, just give it up. We all KNOW the truth, and no matter what fantastical stories you come up with to make it look like LilyAnne is a real person (who just happens to ADORE you ROFLMAO!!), you are sadly mistaken if you think we are that gullible and stupid. You are so incredibly transparent it is laughable. Hahaha. Oh, I need to laugh more than that! MWAHAHAHahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! (I must admit, though, it is incredibly entertaining to read your frenzied posts, throwing out anything you can to try to explain away the whole problem. I guess people really don't change much, huh? Oh, and just because you put a little slam on yourself in this post(ALMOST cleverly), you think people won't still KNOW it's you? Just how dumb can you get and still breathe?
The owner of DC is someone named Kate and they don't know her irl, they were close friends over the internet so I don't know how she could possibly know both LA and AD irl.
wait a minute! you say "someone named kate" so you claim to not know her name. but you DO know that they don't know one another IRL? come on Amanda! we're not that stupid.
The owner of DC is someone named Kate and they don't know her irl, they were close friends over the internet so I don't know how she could possibly know both LA and AD irl.
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Yep, that would be me. And to set the record straight. I have never met AD or LA IRL, I have only ever worked with Amanda while she was at DC, I have however been in touch with her about the bud club as I knew she was wanting someone to purchase the club from her. We are not hosting her Bud Club, we just purchased it from her and have moved it to our "DST copy cat" site - which she has posted that in the Bud Club section of the site. I just thought I would clarify a few things, seeing as you didn't know who owned DC.
wait a minute! you say "someone named kate" so you claim to not know her name. but you DO know that they don't know one another IRL? come on Amanda! we're not that stupid.
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Feel stupid now bitch? I'm not Amanda and the owner of DC just posted and OMG! look at that! She's someone named Kate!
Funny, I heard this Kate chick and LA went to college together like 10 years ago or something, and have been friends ever since. but now that we all know that LA is actually AD, this "friend" now doesn't know her. my guess is that she knows them both and knows that they are one in the same.
Feel stupid now bitch? I'm not Amanda and the owner of DC just posted and OMG! look at that! She's someone named Kate!
April 27, 2009 9:09 PM
I think your the stupid bitch, bitch. You completely missed the point, bitch. How is it you aren't sure what the owner of Digital Candy's name is (as in- "is someone named Kate") yet you are sure that she doesn't know LilyAnne or Amanda Dykan, bitch? Besides, bitch, if you read "Kate's" post, bitch, she said she knows them, bitch, and of course she's gonna lie, bitch, because the fact that she knows both of them (IRL or on-line only) means she's a lying bitch, bitch. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, bitch.
I think your the stupid bitch, bitch. You completely missed the point, bitch. How is it you aren't sure what the owner of Digital Candy's name is (as in- "is someone named Kate") yet you are sure that she doesn't know LilyAnne or Amanda Dykan, bitch? Besides, bitch, if you read "Kate's" post, bitch, she said she knows them, bitch, and of course she's gonna lie, bitch, because the fact that she knows both of them (IRL or on-line only) means she's a lying bitch, bitch. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, bitch.
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Yes BITCH but too bad I didn't mean "someone named Kate" as in I wasn't sure, I meant someone named Kate as in a PERSON named Kate dumbass
Why would "kate" call her own site a "copy cat DST" site
easy, because either it wasn't Kate or because she's the type of person who hangs out with LA/AD and is willing to vouch for her (which easily means she doesn't have two brain cells to rub together). either way I won't be heading to her store or her "DST Copy Cat" site.
I just love how you are accusing everyone of being Amanda. Typical response.
I'm really on your side and think something is wrong in ad/la world. So you maybe you could just cool it a bit? Step away for awhile.
April 27, 2009 9:36 PM
LOVE that. Believe me. When I post, I use my name. All that anger? MUST be the infamous "MB". Funny how no one can mention her name, but can slam mine all over the place.
Okay- FOR THE RECORD. You all want me to set the record straight- so I will. First of all- it's none of any of your business. I left the scene months ago after you all couldn't STOP talking about me. I gave up all my stores- some by choice- others not. All because another designer made up her mind I had pirated a bracket shape. Guilty until proven innocent- and then still guilty. Someone posted a thread in here about who they wished would STOP designing- and my name was promptly at the top of it. So, you know what? I took the hint. I had someone else take over my bud club and you all really successfully got rid of me in the community. Yes, I'm still living. Yes, I'm still working with my manufacturing partners. What business is it of any of you? Why do you care so much?
IF I was LilyAnne (and I'm not saying I am), who cares? Really? WHO CARES? Who is being hurt? Other than LilyAnne, I mean? Really? Are you? All this is great gossip- that's all. Believe what you want. LilyAnne and I have been friends for years. Doesn't matter if I confirm or deny that I'm her- or she's me- because clearly you all have decided in your head what the truth MUST be.
Here's the sad thing. LilyAnne was great as a paper designer. I did help her learn the community- and even gave her a computer I wasn't using anymore. We live in the same city. We became friends. So of course, she must be me.
And yes, I use Flergs shadows on all my previews. I encouraged Lily to do the same. And yes. I bought a CU font and used it to make some alphas. I also told LA where to go buy some great fonts. I even told her the name of that font- because she ASKED.
None of it matters. I know that by posting I'm only creating more drama. Really, though. Call my crazy all you want. But I'm not the one all up in someone else's life.
Here's the sad thing. LilyAnne was great as a paper designer. I did help her learn the community- and even gave her a computer I wasn't using anymore. We live in the same city. We became friends. So of course, she must be me.
April 27, 2009 10:00 PM ------------------------------ If LA was such a great paper designer/graphic designer, wouldn't she have her OWN computer??
What I've heard about this through the grapevine doesn't cast MB in a very flattering light. But I have no proof. We know no one will believe you around here unless you have proof. I'm not even going to try.
11.43, thanks. You can say what you like about MB to me, I've never liked her, she was always copying someone. In the early days it was Gina Miller, then it was other people. Never a single original thought or design from her.
MB is clever. She never leaves a trail. I think quite a few people know about the stuff she's done to others. But I agree that without proof it won't go far.
But she sell all the Time at Shabby Pickle Designs
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She's only guesting there, which makes a difference, I guess. If they were thinking of offering her a spot, I don't think they will be doing that now, but who knows?
It wasn't just the bracket shape Amanda and you know it. It was more the fact that you were tracing some guys stock illustrations in AI and passing them off as your own AND selling them as CU. it all just happened to come crashing down at the same time. The designers who purchased your CU doodles and used them in kits had to pull those kits and delete the items they bought from you. It was a big mess.
And yes, people have been hurt by the LilyAnne thing. Think of the scrappers who were so thrilled about joining LA's CT and the store owners who hired you/her. Now the clean up they all have to face. Lies always end up hurting someone. Beyond all that, look at all of the nasty drama this created. Just let it go and move on Amanda! The jig is up.
IF I was LilyAnne (and I'm not saying I am), who cares? Really? WHO CARES? Who is being hurt? Other than LilyAnne, I mean? Really?
are you kidding me? Who was hurt? How about the store owners that you duped and made look stupid? How about the designers that you lied to, who spent time making kits with you, only to have them pulled off the market because of you? how about the people that you lied to and stole from when you used their CU stuff illegally? These people don't mean anything Amanda? THat statement alone tells me that you have absolutely no morals, no ethics and no clue. go away Amanda/Lily Anne, take the hint again and go away for good! No one wants you/either of you around - you psycho, get some help!
How about the store owners that you duped and made look stupid? How about the designers that you lied to, who spent time making kits with you, only to have them pulled off the market because of you?
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FIRST, I'm not Amanda. I'm just posting another point of view.
I think all of this is more a result of reaction from this community and how it handles these issues. Why should a store owner feel stupid for taking on what they considered at the time to be a good designer? They only feel that way because we continue to point fingers at them. Designers come and go from every store. Really this shouldn't be a big deal.
Is it possible that we set ourselves up for this sort of thing to happen and continue happening? It seems that the insistance that we NEED to know is actually starting to cause more damage than it is worth. This won't be the last time a designer tries to come back as someone else after a tar and feathering. And in some ways, I'm glad to see a store standing up to this blog and not just jumping the gun and removing the stuff. I'm tired of the control that this blog has over everything. And I know that there is a designer who is going around stiring stuff up. It makes me really angry that she has that type of control in this community. I hope people will see that for it is.
If the gossip and back stabbing would stop then people can just buy stuff they like and scrap.
I know, I'm here too reading the gossip. Surely you'll be able to smack my post on something better than that!
Is it possible that we set ourselves up for this sort of thing to happen and continue happening?It seems that the insistance that we NEED to know is actually starting to cause more damage than it is worth.This won't be the last time a designer tries to come back as someone else after a tar and feathering. And in some ways, I'm glad to see a store standing up to this blog and not just jumping the gun and removing the stuff. I'm tired of the control that this blog has over everything. And I know that there is a designer who is going around stiring stuff up. It makes me really angry that she has that type of control in this community. I hope people will see that for it is. ***********************************
I think it's very possible that we set ourselves up for this, and that, unfortunately, we (store owners, designers and scrappers alike) make it damn easy to happen. We're, 99% of us, women. Out of that 99% how many are competitive? And, as women, how many of us can say that we don't have a catty, snarky side that we often have to contain? It's going to happen, there's no avoiding it. No matter what precautions are taken, there's going to be shit that continues to play out.
As for needing to know? I said before, there are plenty of things that go on that the customer/scrapper has no need to know. However, in the case of Amanda Dykan and LilyAnne Taylor, I think we have every right to know. There are plenty of us who have no desire to endorse Amanda, no matter what name she uses. As someone else pointed out, this is no different than Joedee taking on Ashley and trying to pawn her off on unsuspecting customers as someone else. It sucked then, it sucks now.
And you're right. This is not the first time, and it will not be the last time, but in instances like this, I sure hope that every time it does happen there is someone that makes the customer/scrapper aware of it!
And as for the trouble-making designer, well you give this blog a lot of credit for being able to control what's going on in the digi community. If indeed that's the case, give us proof, not just innuendoes and, since we have so much power, let this blog and its readers/smackers see what they can do to take care of this designer.
this is no different than Joedee taking on Ashley and trying to pawn her off on unsuspecting customers as someone else. It sucked then, it sucks now. April 28, 2009 10:17 AM
I couldn't agree more. I don't know why SO or ES shut down LAT's store, but I can only suspect it's because they had proof that we don't. But there seems to be too much evidence that LAT and AD are the same person. I'm a long time customer of some of the designers at SPD and I can tell you this, as long as the owners of that store ignore the fact that this woman is pulling a scam, I won't go back there or anywhere else that houses this designer. There is being fair and then there is just being blind.
But if they weren't dragged through the mud so much then maybe they wouldn't have to hide who they really are? They might use their own design name and at least that way you aren't handing them money. Some people really don't care to know about the drama surrounding everyone.
I couldn't agree more. I don't know why SO or ES shut down LAT's store, but I can only suspect it's because they had proof that we don't. But there seems to be too much evidence that LAT and AD are the same person. I'm a long time customer of some of the designers at SPD and I can tell you this, as long as the owners of that store ignore the fact that this woman is pulling a scam, I won't go back there or anywhere else that houses this designer. There is being fair and then there is just being blind.
April 28, 2009 10:29 AM
Word! I am a huge fan of Holly and Nikki but I will not be shopping there anytime soon. I refuse to shop at a store who allows a known thief and liar to peddle their wares. Not to mention the illegal wares she selling. Those doodles once again are not hers.
I refuse to shop at a store who allows a known thief and liar to peddle their wares.
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It makes you wonder why a reputable store like Shabby Pickle would even risk their reputation. Let's face it, this is only going to come up again and again as long as she is selling somewhere.
I have heard NOTHING about this anywhere but here. How would you expect them to hear if they don't read this blog?
April 28, 2009 12:36 PM
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So you think with all the people that do read and post here, that not one of them is friends with, or at least friendly with, anyone from SPD? And you think no one has emailed or PM'ed any of them and left them know the talk that's been going on? Seriously?
Even if they don't read this blog there's been enough talk about this for the last couple of days that they have to have heard something. -------------------------------- not necessarily. is this being talked about outside this blog? if they don't read this blog they wouldn't know about it at all. i do not agree that this blog controls the whole digi community. i think percentage wise very few of the "whole" digi community reads this blog.
we are just like a bunch of teenagers gossiping in the corner having no real affect on the community around us.
we should not delude ourselves thinking any different.
So you think with all the people that do read and post here, that not one of them is friends with, or at least friendly with, anyone from SPD? And you think no one has emailed or PM'ed any of them and left them know the talk that's been going on? Seriously? -------------------------------- I haven't notified them. Have you? I don't make any assumptions that anyone else has.
I haven't notified them. Have you? I don't make any assumptions that anyone else has.
April 28, 2009 12:58 PM
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I make assumptions all the time when it comes to the digi community. We actually are like a bunch of teenagers sitting in the corner gossiping, and gossip is never truly confined just to that corner now is it?
Oh come on, are you guys for real? You really don't think they read this blog or know anything about this? You have GOT to be kidding?? Bren Boone has posted at least a couple times in this thread, and you know damn well that she has told the owner and other designers at SP about it. I'm sure they are monitoring it very closely. The cannot claim ignorance at all.
As a business owner, I would never let an anonymous blog control my business. I do not think SO closed LAT's shop because of this blog. That is just ridiculous.
Whether SO should have contacted SPD depends on what their reason was. Since we don't know that reason it is all mere speculation.
The fact that LAT's designs are still for sale at SPD is not proof of anything. It just adds to the bizarreness of this whole situation.
Bren Boone has posted at least a couple times in this thread, and you know damn well that she has told the owner and other designers at SP about it. ----------------------------------- Good point. I stand corrected.
So if SP knows all about it maybe they don't have any proof of any wrong doing.
Or...and I read way to many mystery novels...they are in cahoots with AD/LAT so they are leaving her stuff up so we will think they are not the same person. Very deep conspiracy theory here. But what the heck. Pass the popcorn please.
If SO had enough "evidence" to shut her store down, they had a moral obligation to contact her other store(s).
April 28, 2009 12:30 PM
They not under that obligation. It could have been personal difference. That's enough reason to shut a store down. But doesn't need to be reported to every store owner in digiworld.
WTF people, seriously. Get away from your computer and go outside and play ball with your kids or something.
April 28, 2009 1:15 PMWTF, you're apparently not outside playing ball either.
As a business owner, I would never let an anonymous blog control my business. I do not think SO closed LAT's shop because of this blog. That is just ridiculous.Read and comprehend before you type. Not once has anyone said that this blog caused SO to shut down LAT's store. Someone said they thought this blog had a big influence over the digi community. End of story.
[They not under that obligation. It could have been personal difference. That's enough reason to shut a store down. But doesn't need to be reported to every store owner in digiworld.]
I didn't say that was it. But we don't know what it was so it could have been something like that. Who know? Maybe she didn't contribute to the collab?
Yep, that would be me. And to set the record straight. I have never met AD or LA IRL, I have only ever worked with Amanda while she was at DC, I have however been in touch with her about the bud club as I knew she was wanting someone to purchase the club from her. We are not hosting her Bud Club, we just purchased it from her and have moved it to our "DST copy cat" site - which she has posted that in the Bud Club section of the site. I just thought I would clarify a few things, seeing as you didn't know who owned DC. ------------------------------------ I do not think this is the real Kate. Most owners use their full names. And I can't believe that she would call her other site the "DST copy cat" site. Wouldn't an owner give the correct name and possibly a link in the hopes that we would click over there to check it out.
And as for the trouble-making designer, well you give this blog a lot of credit for being able to control what's going on in the digi community. If indeed that's the case, give us proof, not just innuendoes and, since we have so much power, let this blog and its readers/smackers see what they can do to take care of this designer.
April 28, 2009 10:17 AM
So who is she and where's the proof? I know many have insinuated that MB is the trouble-maker, but that's all there's been, insinuations. Is it MB, is there someone else? Is there any proof? Anything even as circumstantial as in the LAT=AD situation? 3:19 is right. This has been a fun ride, not sure I'm ready to see it end quite yet. Damned teenage genes anyway, always getting in the way of grownup, rational thoughts.
I normally can see another persons side of most situations. Even if I don't agree with them, I can understand where they are coming from and empathize with them.
I find this whole situation eerie. One connection between AD and LAT would be one thing and could be explained as a coincidence. But there are far too many connections here to be mere coincidences.
I might have gone for the theory that LAT was an AD stalker/copycat, but then AD comes here and claims to be LAT's friend and "loves her work". What's not to love when it looks just like yours??
At this point my vote would be that they are the same person. And here I can empathize with Amanda. Not that I think she did the right thing, but I can understand that she wanted to continue doing what she loves and tried to create a new image so she could be back in the game.
But I even have problems with that scenario because if I were coming back as a new identity I would make sure I did things differently than I did before so it wouldn't be obvious. Like they say that when you go through the witness protection program you need to really change up your life. Not do things like you did before because that makes it too easy to identify you.
LAT's m.o. is so similar to AD's that I find it difficult to imagine that AD wouldn't have been smart enough to change it up a bit.
Hence, my utter confusion in this whole situation.
Well, here's some dirt for you. Sherlock Holmes back and it occurred to me that if LA is AD, then she couldn't possibly have worked for a paper company right? So it took no time at all to contact the powers that be at Autumn Leaves, and low and behold, what do you know? They said that they've had a ton of inquiries into a LilyAnne Taylor and they have no record of anyone by that name ever working for their company. So it seems as though you're both, if there are actually two of you to begin with) lying.
Huh, imagine that. Autumn Leaves has never heard of LAT. I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya. You think that's why with a google search she never existed before March, and the only place she's ever existed is digi land in the past month. Shocked, yep I am.
I think Lilyanne used a CU item from Amanda's stash and that is what got her in trouble and removed from SO and ES. One store found out and they are most likely going to let all the other stores she sells at know. Who knows why SP hasn't let her go yet. I think there are just too many coincidences here. Oh, and just for the record, I think Melissa Bennett is a total bitch, and I agree that she doesn't have an idea of her own.
Well she may be an idiot, I've never met the woman, but she obviously knows what's going on with LA/AD because she's disabled the collaboration kits with Misty Cato and Bren Boone! So she know's that something is up right?
Sounds to me like Amanda Dykan is there to stay at Shabby Pickle!
[Maybe Misty and Bren asked her to? Looks bad for Faith True if they did, hers is still there].
All the more reason to believe that it was the store that took the collabs down. It was the kits that had designers in stores other than SPD that disappeared. Faith True sells at SPD right?
Well IF I were Faith True, and I had asked to have my collab withdrawn as well and SP had not done so, I wouldn't be selling at SP any more.
And IF I were Faith True and I hadn't asked, I'd be worried about my credibility.
In either case, IF I were Laura Deceatis I would be gaily skipping thru the meadow waving a bunch of daisies and singing the Teletubbies song. That is, apparently, what she's doing.
I'm tired of the control that this blog has over everything. -----------------------------------
This blog doesn't have control over anything. -----------------------------------
And I know that there is a designer who is going around stiring stuff up. It makes me really angry that she has that type of control in this community. I hope people will see that for it is. ^^^^^ THIS is what is wrong with the "community." A bunch of vague innuendo, half-assed accusations, and all the stupid juvenile secrecy.
If someone's doing something wrong, have the freakin' guts to call them out, or just shut the hell up. The vague little hints do nothing but fuel speculation, gossip, and a bunch of inaccuracies.
The 'meanies' who 'control' things wouldn't be able to control any.damn.thing if everyone else would just be honest and quit ennabling them.
>And I know that there is a designer who is going around stiring stuff up. It makes me really angry that she has that type of control in this community. I hope people will see that for it is.
We do Amanda, we see it only too clearly. I think that's what you're worried about.
Well, here's some dirt for you. Sherlock Holmes back and it occurred to me that if LA is AD, then she couldn't possibly have worked for a paper company right? So it took no time at all to contact the powers that be at Autumn Leaves, and low and behold, what do you know? They said that they've had a ton of inquiries into a LilyAnne Taylor and they have no record of anyone by that name ever working for their company. So it seems as though you're both, if there are actually two of you to begin with) lying.
So Amanda, what do you have to say to that? April 28, 2009 4:43 PM
ok, so now we know LAT is a big fat liar too. whether or not she's AD, although i think that's pretty much been established, she lied about working for paper companies.
interesting that we've heard from AD but not from LAT. wonder how LAT can explain this one away.
5.54 After one of Ms Dykan's regular meltdowns (can't remember whether it was a piracy one or a running off with ppl's money one at this point) somebody shot her door. Probably just a kid with an air gun or something, these things happen, but in true drama queen style Ms D complained long and loud to anyone who would listen that it was a scrapper who had been whipped up into a frenzy of unjustified hatred by evil blogs (such as this one).
I think it was at that point that any doubt whatsoever about Ms D's mental condition was conclusively removed from people's minds.
In either case, IF I were Laura Deceatis I would be gaily skipping thru the meadow waving a bunch of daisies and singing the Teletubbies song. That is, apparently, what she's doing.
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ROTFL From what I hear that's what she's always doing!
This blog has no control over anything. There was one blog, the "bad blog" that may have had some control, but not this one, this one never gets mentioned anywhere in the forums that I have seen. Maybe in the DCR, which means you've outted yourself as a designer or store owner.
As for SP not knowing, like other have said, get real. There were quite a few designer names listed as last visitors on Claudia's, Amanda's and LilyAnne's profiles at DST just after they were mentioned here. Some of them are honest enough to admit they read here, others play the 'oh-so-innocent' card.
I don't read ScrapTalk, I have no idea what that is. But if you admit it, you aren't one of the 'oh-so-innocent' ones that reads, says they don't and causes all sorts of trouble any way, and yet, no one seems to clue in.
I don't read ScrapTalk, I have no idea what that is. But if you admit it, you aren't one of the 'oh-so-innocent' ones that reads, says they don't and causes all sorts of trouble any way, and yet, no one seems to clue in.
April 28, 2009 6:27 PM ---------------------------- Just because they read, doesn't mean they cause trouble! Some of us like to stay out of trouble but like to keep up with the latest.
I have no doubt that just as many scrappers stir the pot as designers.
Oh but if were a Hot Topic it wouldn't be an innocent question, would it? LOL
April 28, 2009 6:39 PM ---------------------------- ROFL Sorry but there is no way that came across as an innocent question. LOL LOL It sounded like an attempt to stir the pot.
Moving it appears to have worked tho, there is a response already!
Yeah, who would have thunk Ms Smith was a blog reader ;)
Not so much stirring the pot as bringing the pot to the table. Too easy for certain people to ignore the whole thing whilst they can pretend they never read this blog.
I'm still hoping that SPD will pay Amanda Dykan for all the sales she must be getting from this publicity. Making the check to LilyAnn Taylor, obviously.
The fact that LA is missing in action is proof enough. If she were innocent she would have come forward and stopped this long before now. If Amanda were such a friend to her she would have let her know that all this was going on so she could defend herself.
wv=deschi-does she really think we are so stupid???
I'm sure they do like watching the train wrecks that they create
April 28, 2009 7:01 PM -------------------------------- Well I am a designer and take offense to that, because I DON'T create those train wrecks. The people that behave so stupidly do along with the people who like to stir the pot...
Maybe Misty and Bren have some evidence that the rest of us don't have - evidence which warranted having the collabs pulled. I can't imagine they had them pulled based on smack blog speculation.
I don't read ScrapTalk, I have no idea what that is. But if you admit it, you aren't one of the 'oh-so-innocent' ones that reads, says they don't and causes all sorts of trouble any way, and yet, no one seems to clue in.
April 28, 2009 6:27 PM ---------------------------- Just because they read, doesn't mean they cause trouble! Some of us like to stay out of trouble but like to keep up with the latest.
April 28, 2009 6:35 PM
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That's not what I said at all, Please go ahead and read it again.
I'm sure they do like watching the train wrecks that they create
April 28, 2009 7:01 PM -------------------------------- Well I am a designer and take offense to that, because I DON'T create those train wrecks. The people that behave so stupidly do along with the people who like to stir the pot...
April 28, 2009 7:04 PM
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If you don't create them, then what's your problem? She was talking about the designers that do create the train wrecks.
If you don't create them, then what's your problem? She was talking about the designers that do create the train wrecks.
April 28, 2009 7:21 PM ---------------------------------- Was she? I didn't see here differentiating between the two at all. Sounded like we were all lumped in the one basket to me.
Well Faith True has come to LilyAnne's defense at DST. Why don't you all come out of lurkdom and post over there and really give the mods something to think about.
If you don't create them, then what's your problem? She was talking about the designers that do create the train wrecks.
April 28, 2009 7:21 PM ---------------------------------- Was she? I didn't see here differentiating between the two at all. Sounded like we were all lumped in the one basket to me.
April 28, 2009 7:27 PM
Actually, I WAS. But now I'm wondering why you're so defensive if you're so innocent.
Hmm, Faith True *is* as stupid as she looks then. ---------------------------------- I don't know what *stupid* looks like to you. I would not judge someones intelligence based on their looks. There are a lot of beautiful stupid people and there are alot of brilliant average looking people. I don't think Faith looks stupid at all.
(no I don't know her, don't own any of her products, I'm not a designer and I am not on a CT, I just thought that was a mean comment)
I don't think even Faith believes what she said there. Wishful thinking maybe? I think she wants to leave that collab kit up as long as she possibly can, to make as much $$ as possible before it eventually, inevitably, gets pulled, as it should. Saying that she doesn't believe the allegations only gives her a false sense of security that maybe people won't hold it against her that she's keeping it up
The allegations may seem ridiculous. And if there was only a couple of things I would agree. But even I who normally stick up for everyone can not deny that there are too many unanswered questions.
The allegations may seem ridiculous. And if there was only a couple of things I would agree. But even I who normally stick up for everyone can not deny that there are too many unanswered questions.
April 28, 2009 7:55 PM ------------------------------- Yup I agree, I am not one to throw stones and would normally give benefit of the doubt, but there are just too many co-incidences...
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How does that correlate to not wanting to be involved with drama?
April 28, 2009 10:03 PM Um... this is the comments section. Not a one-on-one instant messaging service.
Faith in her post spoke as if working on colabs with LA proved that this was all false. So, when you work on a colab, is all communication generally through email? or via phone, etc?
Faith in her post spoke as if working on colabs with LA proved that this was all false. So, when you work on a colab, is all communication generally through email? or via phone, etc?
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When I was designing, all the collabs I did were strictly through email, sometimes though IM, or PMs.
Interesting to note that you can find Amanda Dykan in the White Pages but you can't find LilyAnne Taylor, not in Southlake, Texas anyway. There are some LilyAnnes in other parts of Texas, just not the part she claims she's from. Doesn't prove anything, but it is interesting.
Oh my gosh. I realize I have been obsessed with this whole subject. Yet, I don't know the players involved at all so why the heck am I playing this game.
I suddenly realized that I've heard of Amanda but never did any business with her. I didn't get involved with the bud club. After the Tandika incident I have vowed away from digital subscriptions. I saw that she jumped around and spread herself too thin so I stayed away.
So tonight I found myself googling this LilyAnne chick and all of a sudden I realized I had wasted hours. All on someone I don't know and don't care about.
Sometimes I just need to close my eyes to all that is going on in the digi world. It is all so surreal and at the moment not adding anything productive to my life. I am going to step away and get back to real life for a while.
I'll check back in a few weeks. There will either be some answers or this will just fade into la la land never to be resolved. Such a shame really to have to deal with all this crap and take the fun away from such a wonderful hobby.
Didn't Amanda Kay sell with Amanda Dykan at Purple Paper Flowers too? That is just a little suspicious. And Then Amanda Kay ends up on Lilyanne's creative team but doesn't know it's Amanda Dykan, after all that time working with Amanda Dykan?
Didn't they sell at Digital Candy together too?... April 27, 2009 8:20 PM
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Yes I sold briefly at PPF with AD. No I did not sell with her at DC. I left DC long before she showed up there. Not sure what it has to do with anything though. I stopped designing to focus on other things like my family and then in my spare time running SUN & scrapping. I saw Lily Anne's call and applied because I thought her kits looked cute and she was someone new and different. I was away visiting family and came back to multiple emails and PM's about all of this and how Lily Anne might be AD, blah blah blah. I've been given many explanations/stories from stores, designers, and scrappers. I personally don't what is true and what isn't but I'm no longer on her CT because I'd rather not be involved in it. I honestly don't go around assuming all designers that make (or steal in this case) cute doodles are AD but maybe from now on I should, could have saved me a lot of trouble. Anyway, just thought I'd clear that up... carry on...
Oh no! That cunt Opeysmama is upset! Shut down the thread, if her uptight ass doesn't unclench soon there WILL be hell to pay for all of us!!!
wv: operly...Opey's ass was operly clenched
April 29, 2009 11:40 AM
***********************************Yep was just coming here to post about that. That woman needs to learn to lighten up. Tacky huh? How is it tacky? Isn't DST supposed to the place we're able to go and ask questions and seek answers? If it's done nothing else at least it's made Faith rethink her position on the whole thing. So dear opeysmama can chastise all she wants or, better yet, go take a flying f**king leap somewhere.
OMG have you ever heard from a more self-righteous know-it-all in your life? She really needs to be knocked down a peg or two and figure out she ain't all that. But somehow I think Ruby's just the gal to do it.
I"m at work and don't have time. I was wondering if someone could type up a list of the coincidences and post them at DST. Maybe Ruby would be the best person since she has already posted there.
We could keep the questions professional and polite so as to not be accused of drama.
Oh and look at Canay. She ranks right up there with Ruby when it comes to sense and reason. A list of the the coincidences and concerns would be great, but I'm at work too.
Guess Opeysmama got some PMs about LilyAnne's apparent pirating then. Shame she didn't also get the message that it seemed to be linked to Amanda Dykan (who, as we know has form for it) and _that_ was what set the alarm bells ringing in the first place, before even the screenshot appeared.
yeah - but that screen shot was seen by quite a few folks, before the cu thing even started happening - it's what made Melissa go snooping in the first place. The screen shot just didn't go public til later.
Now - is Ashley Olson one to talk about coming out to straighten up the story?!
"Interesting to note that you can find Amanda Dykan in the White Pages but you can't find LilyAnne Taylor"
You mean to tell me that after Amanda Dykan accused this board of traveling to her home and putting a bullet in her door...after fabricating an entire stalking campaign, after screaming at the top of her lungs about how afraid she was, about how wronged she was, lying about how she had IP's and emails and threatening the people who post on this board with arrests from the local "precinct" - and then going public and falsely accusing this board of creating monster bloggers that lurk in the dark with guns blazing...rflmao...so after all that insane drama, this delusional human has not taken steps to have her address and phone number secured?
Now on Earth could she possibly accuse 'us' of knowing where she lives (and abusing that knowledge) if the information wasn't actually available anywhere? Come on, you have to fuel your paranoia otherwise you might turn up sane somewhere, and who would talk about you then?
What happens if all these crazy accusations and assumptions turn out to be untrue?
I would be very happy for LilyAnne if that is so.
Any one of the issues might be able to be explained. LilyAnne may be an online name hence no directory listing or reference from Autumn Leaves. She emulated Amanda's style because she likes and admires Amanda. Amanda could have been mentoring her which explains the similarity and that is how she could have so many kits available in such a short time. She may have purchased all the CU items she used. She changed stores looking for a better dear....
All we are asking is for the explanations.
I think this is only part of the issue.
I am concerned about the concept that we should just shut up and not ask questions and just buy what we like.
That's Donna's speciality though. She frequently posts a new thread with the 'only post in this thread if you agree with me' tagline. Stupid bitch.
One does have to wonder why, if LilyAnne did buy all that CU stuff why she didn't have any store receipts, PayPal receipts, PayPal account records or even a recollection of the username she used to purchase them.
Also why she had access to Amanda Dykan's DST/DCR account.
End of the day, DST know that either Amanda Dykan IS LilyAnne, or that she shared her DCR access with LilyAnne. The first is of no concern to them, but the second is a banning offence.
I am concerned about the concept that we should just shut up and not ask questions and just buy what we like.
Personally, I am insulted by that attitude.
April 29, 2009 1:57 PM
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Ah yes, but if you want places like DST to remain all sunshine and kool-aid isn't that what we should do? Shut up, shop and spend our money? Doesn't matter that the person we're giving that money too might be the most unscrupulous designer in the business. If you like her stuff, buy it. Just shut up and pretend everything is all sunshine and kool-aid.
As for the accusations being false? Well if that ever comes to be proven I will be more than happy to apologize to LAT. But since she seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth I'm not sure how I'd go about apologizing.
All we are asking is for the explanations. *** You got one when Amanda posted. ;) ------------------------------ But her explanation did not make reasonable sense. Were you satisfied with her explanation or did it leave you feeling like something was missing?
We didn't get an explanation did we? Only 'the screenshot is fake' (it isn't) and 'she's my buddy'. That's not an explanation.
Fact is, Amanda cannot offer an explanation, because if she could she would be admitting she was LilyAnne. Only LilyAnne can offer the explanation, and Amanda is too chicken shit to even TRY and pull a stunt like that.
If Amanda is LilyAnne it is too bad she just didn't admit it here. It probably would have all gone away.
I always thought that is what Clinton should have done. Said "yeah I'm a horny guy and got it on with Monica". People probably would have thought "oh ok, typical guy" and not thought any more about it. It is the continual lying and denial that pisses everyone off.
Seriously, next time you do something wrong and get called on it. Just admit it. People won't know how to react and it will be forgotten much sooner.
LAT's CT are vouching for her, but can they absolutely prove that she is not who she claims to be?
In all this mess, if Lilyanne is truly Lilyanne, how will she prove it? Personally, I don't think staying silent is the best way. Silence gets interpreted as guilt.
Seems to me the store owners have the proof if they required Amanda and Lilyanne to fill out W-4s, no?
If Amanda is LilyAnne it is too bad she just didn't admit it here. It probably would have all gone away.
I always thought that is what Clinton should have done. Said "yeah I'm a horny guy and got it on with Monica". People probably would have thought "oh ok, typical guy" and not thought any more about it. It is the continual lying and denial that pisses everyone off.
Seriously, next time you do something wrong and get called on it. Just admit it. People won't know how to react and it will be forgotten much sooner.
When I joined my store I had to provide a copy of my passport and a W-9. I also had to sign and return a contract which they postal mailed to me (hence confirming my address). Seems other stores don't do the same, which is a shame and a surprise given the recent history of this whole industry.
You all still smack her at every opportunity. ---------------------------------- I don't smack her at all. But as I recall (but my memory may be bad) is the AO didn't really admit it. She had "excuses" for what she did.
When I joined my store I had to provide a copy of my passport and a W-9. I also had to sign and return a contract which they postal mailed to me (hence confirming my address). Seems other stores don't do the same, which is a shame and a surprise given the recent history of this whole industry --------------------------------- What store are you at. It sounds like they are very professional and how all stores should be.
If LA was a nobody selling at a barely known store, would this have even been an issue? --------------------------------- Well, LA was pretty much of a nobody. She'd only been around 2 months and I bet many people did not know who she was until reading about her on this blog.
It's hard to know why the person who took the screen shot did that and then posted it here. Would she have done the same thing if LilyAnne was at a barely known store?
Or did she do it because she noticed Amanda's name and that got her sleuthing? It wouldn't have mattered who was on the other side. LilyAnne, or BettyJo, or whatever.
LilyAnne may be an online name hence no directory listing or reference from Autumn Leaves.
If you're submitting an application for employment with your name on it and you list a reference, is it not assumed the reference should be for the name on your application?
If the reference is for a name other than the name on your application, should you not divulge that information on said application so your potential employer can actually verify the reference you are providing?
By neglecting to inform your potential employer that the reference might actually be under another name, are you not just setting YOURSELF up to look like a liar?
By neglecting to inform your potential employer that the reference might actually be under another name, are you not just setting YOURSELF up to look like a liar? ------------------------------- Definitely, But I don't know what information she gave her potential employer and Kami from Scrap Orchard did not divulge any of that.
I don't know who posted here that they checked with Autumn Leaves. Was that just a scrapper sleuthing or was it someone from one of the stores? I guess that is one of the problems with posting anon. We don't know what's true or not.
If LA was a nobody selling at a barely known store, would this have even been an issue? ------------------------- I think the "issue" was the fact that it was Amanda possibly posing as someone else, not that it was an up and coming designer at a popular store.
Do a whois on imaginarycrackers.com and you'll find that it's registered with godaddy but with an anonymous proxy listed as the registrar. It's not any better proof, just another "hmmm..." to add to the list.
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1420 Newer› Newest»Didn't Amanda Kay sell with Amanda Dykan at Purple Paper Flowers too? That is just a little suspicious. And Then Amanda Kay ends up on Lilyanne's creative team but doesn't know it's Amanda Dykan, after all that time working with Amanda Dykan?
Didn't they sell at Digital Candy together too? I heard that LA/AD were both RL friends with the owner of Digital Candy. How can they both be friends with her if they are the same person? And now Digital Candy owns that new site that is hosting ADs Bud Club.
Things that make you go hmmmmm
Well, there you go. Ask the owner of DC if they're 2 people. Problem solved. ;)
Well, there you go. Ask the owner of DC if they're 2 people. Problem solved. ;)
Anyone know who the owner is? Didn't someone just buy it?
I think LA was just looking up to AD and using her as a mentor. Too bad the mentor she chose was the "green goblin" of the digiscrap community.
A great question, and one the DST powers that be should be looking into is WHY exactly LA had access to AD's DST log in information, which she obviously logged in under the wrong account with her welcome post.
I'd bet Dykan was letting her use her account to read "tips" in the DCR when she needed info.
DST should just ban Dykan, for granting access to the private designer forum to someone who didn't have access.
I'll be sad when Dykan finally gives up on digi. Who else could ever provide such fantastic trainwrecks? LOL...
wv=reafer yes please. hehehe!OMG, NO one would be this stupid, to post this, other than AD herself!
Amanda, just give it up. We all KNOW the truth, and no matter what fantastical stories you come up with to make it look like LilyAnne is a real person (who just happens to ADORE you ROFLMAO!!), you are sadly mistaken if you think we are that gullible and stupid. You are so incredibly transparent it is laughable. Hahaha. Oh, I need to laugh more than that! MWAHAHAHahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! (I must admit, though, it is incredibly entertaining to read your frenzied posts, throwing out anything you can to try to explain away the whole problem. I guess people really don't change much, huh? Oh, and just because you put a little slam on yourself in this post(ALMOST cleverly), you think people won't still KNOW it's you? Just how dumb can you get and still breathe?
The owner of DC is someone named Kate and they don't know her irl, they were close friends over the internet so I don't know how she could possibly know both LA and AD irl.
wait a minute! you say "someone named kate" so you claim to not know her name. but you DO know that they don't know one another IRL? come on Amanda!
we're not that stupid.
The owner of DC is someone named Kate and they don't know her irl, they were close friends over the internet so I don't know how she could possibly know both LA and AD irl.
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Yep, that would be me. And to set the record straight. I have never met AD or LA IRL, I have only ever worked with Amanda while she was at DC, I have however been in touch with her about the bud club as I knew she was wanting someone to purchase the club from her. We are not hosting her Bud Club, we just purchased it from her and have moved it to our "DST copy cat" site - which she has posted that in the Bud Club section of the site. I just thought I would clarify a few things, seeing as you didn't know who owned DC.
wait a minute! you say "someone named kate" so you claim to not know her name. but you DO know that they don't know one another IRL? come on Amanda!
we're not that stupid.
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Feel stupid now bitch? I'm not Amanda and the owner of DC just posted and OMG! look at that! She's someone named Kate!
I have never met AD or LA IRL
Funny, I heard this Kate chick and LA went to college together like 10 years ago or something, and have been friends ever since. but now that we all know that LA is actually AD, this "friend" now doesn't know her. my guess is that she knows them both and knows that they are one in the same.
Feel stupid now bitch? I'm not Amanda and the owner of DC just posted and OMG! look at that! She's someone named Kate!
April 27, 2009 9:09 PM
I think your the stupid bitch, bitch. You completely missed the point, bitch. How is it you aren't sure what the owner of Digital Candy's name is (as in- "is someone named Kate") yet you are sure that she doesn't know LilyAnne or Amanda Dykan, bitch? Besides, bitch, if you read "Kate's" post, bitch, she said she knows them, bitch, and of course she's gonna lie, bitch, because the fact that she knows both of them (IRL or on-line only) means she's a lying bitch, bitch. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, bitch.
So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, bitch.
April 27, 2009 9:20 PM
you have some anger issues. they have drugs for that!
they have drugs for that!
they have drugs for schizophrenia, paranoid delusions and pathological liars too Amanda. look into them!
sorry not ad/la.
I just love how you are accusing everyone of being Amanda. Typical response.
I'm really on your side and think something is wrong in ad/la world. So you maybe you could just cool it a bit? Step away for awhile.
Ummm, Kate could be anybody, just because her name is linked to DC that it is her, if it was her profile yes.. but it isn't.
Ummm, Kate could be anybody, just because her name is linked to DC that it is her, if it was her profile yes.. but it isn't.
April 27, 2009 9:41 PM
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OOOPS meant to say just because it is linked to DC doesn't mean it is her.
I think your the stupid bitch, bitch. You completely missed the point, bitch. How is it you aren't sure what the owner of Digital Candy's name is (as in- "is someone named Kate") yet you are sure that she doesn't know LilyAnne or Amanda Dykan, bitch? Besides, bitch, if you read "Kate's" post, bitch, she said she knows them, bitch, and of course she's gonna lie, bitch, because the fact that she knows both of them (IRL or on-line only) means she's a lying bitch, bitch. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it, bitch.
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Yes BITCH but too bad I didn't mean "someone named Kate" as in I wasn't sure, I meant someone named Kate as in a PERSON named Kate dumbass
That's a laugh. Why would "kate" call her own site a "copy cat DST" site?
Why would "kate" call her own site a "copy cat DST" site
easy, because either it wasn't Kate or because she's the type of person who hangs out with LA/AD and is willing to vouch for her (which easily means she doesn't have two brain cells to rub together). either way I won't be heading to her store or her "DST Copy Cat" site.
sorry not ad/la.
I just love how you are accusing everyone of being Amanda. Typical response.
I'm really on your side and think something is wrong in ad/la world. So you maybe you could just cool it a bit? Step away for awhile.
April 27, 2009 9:36 PM
LOVE that. Believe me. When I post, I use my name. All that anger? MUST be the infamous "MB". Funny how no one can mention her name, but can slam mine all over the place.
Okay- FOR THE RECORD. You all want me to set the record straight- so I will. First of all- it's none of any of your business. I left the scene months ago after you all couldn't STOP talking about me. I gave up all my stores- some by choice- others not. All because another designer made up her mind I had pirated a bracket shape. Guilty until proven innocent- and then still guilty. Someone posted a thread in here about who they wished would STOP designing- and my name was promptly at the top of it. So, you know what? I took the hint. I had someone else take over my bud club and you all really successfully got rid of me in the community. Yes, I'm still living. Yes, I'm still working with my manufacturing partners. What business is it of any of you? Why do you care so much?
IF I was LilyAnne (and I'm not saying I am), who cares? Really? WHO CARES? Who is being hurt? Other than LilyAnne, I mean? Really? Are you? All this is great gossip- that's all. Believe what you want. LilyAnne and I have been friends for years. Doesn't matter if I confirm or deny that I'm her- or she's me- because clearly you all have decided in your head what the truth MUST be.
Here's the sad thing. LilyAnne was great as a paper designer. I did help her learn the community- and even gave her a computer I wasn't using anymore. We live in the same city. We became friends. So of course, she must be me.
And yes, I use Flergs shadows on all my previews. I encouraged Lily to do the same. And yes. I bought a CU font and used it to make some alphas. I also told LA where to go buy some great fonts. I even told her the name of that font- because she ASKED.
None of it matters. I know that by posting I'm only creating more drama. Really, though. Call my crazy all you want. But I'm not the one all up in someone else's life.
That's a laugh. Why would "kate" call her own site a "copy cat DST" site?
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Maybe because everyone here was calling it that in the last space? And she was being sarcastic? Atleast that's how I took it.
I meant someone named Kate as in a PERSON named Kate
yeah
we believe that, don't we ladies?
we believe that, don't we ladies?
April 27, 2009 10:02 PM
I really don't care.
who brought popcorn???
*props feet up and gets comfy for the show...*
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Kate chick and LA went to college together like 10 years ago or something, and have been friends ever since.
LilyAnne and I have been friends for years.
We live in the same city. We became friends.
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Hold on, here. Let me get this straight.
LilyAnne went to college with "Kate" years and years ago.
LilyAnne and Amanda Dykan live in the same city and have been friends for years.
Amanda Dykan sells at "Kate's" store and they become "buds".
LilyAnne decides she's gonna start designing right about the same time her IRL friend has been shamed out of the community.
And it's just a giant coincidence that Kate happens to know both of them and they know each other?
We're supposed to believe this?
are amanda and kate the same people too?
sounds good to me.
moving on now...
Here's the sad thing. LilyAnne was great as a paper designer. I did help her learn the community- and even gave her a computer I wasn't using anymore. We live in the same city. We became friends. So of course, she must be me.
April 27, 2009 10:00 PM
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If LA was such a great paper designer/graphic designer, wouldn't she have her OWN computer??
April 27, 2009 11:00 PM
These people won't move on, they have a hard on for Amanda.
These people won't move on, they have a hard on for Amanda.
April 27, 2009 11:08 PM
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I think it is more a case of nothing better to gossip about..
I would love to know how this ends. But I don't think it's going to. And it probably isn't worth going over again and again.
LA is probably AD. Move on. Don't buy her stuff if it bothers you.
Blogger Amanda Dykan said...
All because another designer made up her mind I had pirated a bracket shape.
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Huh? I thought was Baer's Garten who stole the shape and was accused by ScrapChef, are you now saying that was you? Color me confused.
April 27, 2009 11:27 PM
Different situation.
What I've heard about this through the grapevine doesn't cast MB in a very flattering light. But I have no proof. We know no one will believe you around here unless you have proof. I'm not even going to try.
11.43, thanks. You can say what you like about MB to me, I've never liked her, she was always copying someone. In the early days it was Gina Miller, then it was other people. Never a single original thought or design from her.
MB is clever. She never leaves a trail. I think quite a few people know about the stuff she's done to others. But I agree that without proof it won't go far.
LilyAnne was great as a paper designer.
What paper company? Let's call and check. That would clear this whole mess up.
WeRMemoryKeepers and Autumn Leaves
But she sell all the Time at Shabby Pickle Designs
But she sell all the Time at Shabby Pickle Designs
April 28, 2009 4:24 AM
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She's only guesting there, which makes a difference, I guess. If they were thinking of offering her a spot, I don't think they will be doing that now, but who knows?
It wasn't just the bracket shape Amanda and you know it. It was more the fact that you were tracing some guys stock illustrations in AI and passing them off as your own AND selling them as CU. it all just happened to come crashing down at the same time. The designers who purchased your CU doodles and used them in kits had to pull those kits and delete the items they bought from you. It was a big mess.
And yes, people have been hurt by the LilyAnne thing. Think of the scrappers who were so thrilled about joining LA's CT and the store owners who hired you/her. Now the clean up they all have to face. Lies always end up hurting someone. Beyond all that, look at all of the nasty drama this created. Just let it go and move on Amanda! The jig is up.
IF I was LilyAnne (and I'm not saying I am), who cares? Really? WHO CARES? Who is being hurt? Other than LilyAnne, I mean? Really?
are you kidding me? Who was hurt? How about the store owners that you duped and made look stupid? How about the designers that you lied to, who spent time making kits with you, only to have them pulled off the market because of you? how about the people that you lied to and stole from when you used their CU stuff illegally? These people don't mean anything Amanda? THat statement alone tells me that you have absolutely no morals, no ethics and no clue. go away Amanda/Lily Anne, take the hint again and go away for good! No one wants you/either of you around - you psycho, get some help!
How about the store owners that you duped and made look stupid? How about the designers that you lied to, who spent time making kits with you, only to have them pulled off the market because of you?
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FIRST, I'm not Amanda. I'm just posting another point of view.
I think all of this is more a result of reaction from this community and how it handles these issues. Why should a store owner feel stupid for taking on what they considered at the time to be a good designer? They only feel that way because we continue to point fingers at them. Designers come and go from every store. Really this shouldn't be a big deal.
Is it possible that we set ourselves up for this sort of thing to happen and continue happening? It seems that the insistance that we NEED to know is actually starting to cause more damage than it is worth. This won't be the last time a designer tries to come back as someone else after a tar and feathering. And in some ways, I'm glad to see a store standing up to this blog and not just jumping the gun and removing the stuff. I'm tired of the control that this blog has over everything. And I know that there is a designer who is going around stiring stuff up. It makes me really angry that she has that type of control in this community. I hope people will see that for it is.
If the gossip and back stabbing would stop then people can just buy stuff they like and scrap.
I know, I'm here too reading the gossip. Surely you'll be able to smack my post on something better than that!
Is it possible that we set ourselves up for this sort of thing to happen and continue happening? It seems that the insistance that we NEED to know is actually starting to cause more damage than it is worth. This won't be the last time a designer tries to come back as someone else after a tar and feathering. And in some ways, I'm glad to see a store standing up to this blog and not just jumping the gun and removing the stuff. I'm tired of the control that this blog has over everything. And I know that there is a designer who is going around stiring stuff up. It makes me really angry that she has that type of control in this community. I hope people will see that for it is.
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I think it's very possible that we set ourselves up for this, and that, unfortunately, we (store owners, designers and scrappers alike) make it damn easy to happen. We're, 99% of us, women. Out of that 99% how many are competitive? And, as women, how many of us can say that we don't have a catty, snarky side that we often have to contain? It's going to happen, there's no avoiding it. No matter what precautions are taken, there's going to be shit that continues to play out.
As for needing to know? I said before, there are plenty of things that go on that the customer/scrapper has no need to know. However, in the case of Amanda Dykan and LilyAnne Taylor, I think we have every right to know. There are plenty of us who have no desire to endorse Amanda, no matter what name she uses. As someone else pointed out, this is no different than Joedee taking on Ashley and trying to pawn her off on unsuspecting customers as someone else. It sucked then, it sucks now.
And you're right. This is not the first time, and it will not be the last time, but in instances like this, I sure hope that every time it does happen there is someone that makes the customer/scrapper aware of it!
And as for the trouble-making designer, well you give this blog a lot of credit for being able to control what's going on in the digi community. If indeed that's the case, give us proof, not just innuendoes and, since we have so much power, let this blog and its readers/smackers see what they can do to take care of this designer.
this is no different than Joedee taking on Ashley and trying to pawn her off on unsuspecting customers as someone else. It sucked then, it sucks now.
April 28, 2009 10:17 AM
I couldn't agree more. I don't know why SO or ES shut down LAT's store, but I can only suspect it's because they had proof that we don't. But there seems to be too much evidence that LAT and AD are the same person. I'm a long time customer of some of the designers at SPD and I can tell you this, as long as the owners of that store ignore the fact that this woman is pulling a scam, I won't go back there or anywhere else that houses this designer. There is being fair and then there is just being blind.
But if they weren't dragged through the mud so much then maybe they wouldn't have to hide who they really are? They might use their own design name and at least that way you aren't handing them money. Some people really don't care to know about the drama surrounding everyone.
I couldn't agree more. I don't know why SO or ES shut down LAT's store, but I can only suspect it's because they had proof that we don't. But there seems to be too much evidence that LAT and AD are the same person. I'm a long time customer of some of the designers at SPD and I can tell you this, as long as the owners of that store ignore the fact that this woman is pulling a scam, I won't go back there or anywhere else that houses this designer. There is being fair and then there is just being blind.
April 28, 2009 10:29 AM
Word! I am a huge fan of Holly and Nikki but I will not be shopping there anytime soon. I refuse to shop at a store who allows a known thief and liar to peddle their wares. Not to mention the illegal wares she selling. Those doodles once again are not hers.
I refuse to shop at a store who allows a known thief and liar to peddle their wares.
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It makes you wonder why a reputable store like Shabby Pickle would even risk their reputation. Let's face it, this is only going to come up again and again as long as she is selling somewhere.
What makes you think Laura, Holly or Nikki even know what's going on here?
Has anyone emailed them to let them know?
I doubt if they read this blog.
What makes you think Laura, Holly or Nikki even know what's going on here?
Has anyone emailed them to let them know?
I doubt if they read this blog.
April 28, 2009 12:11 PM
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Even if they don't read this blog there's been enough talk about this for the last couple of days that they have to have heard something.
If SO had enough "evidence" to shut her store down, they had a moral obligation to contact her other store(s).
I have heard NOTHING about this anywhere but here. How would you expect them to hear if they don't read this blog?
I have heard NOTHING about this anywhere but here. How would you expect them to hear if they don't read this blog?
April 28, 2009 12:36 PM
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So you think with all the people that do read and post here, that not one of them is friends with, or at least friendly with, anyone from SPD? And you think no one has emailed or PM'ed any of them and left them know the talk that's been going on? Seriously?
Even if they don't read this blog there's been enough talk about this for the last couple of days that they have to have heard something.
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not necessarily. is this being talked about outside this blog? if they don't read this blog they wouldn't know about it at all. i do not agree that this blog controls the whole digi community. i think percentage wise very few of the "whole" digi community reads this blog.
we are just like a bunch of teenagers gossiping in the corner having no real affect on the community around us.
we should not delude ourselves thinking any different.
So you think with all the people that do read and post here, that not one of them is friends with, or at least friendly with, anyone from SPD? And you think no one has emailed or PM'ed any of them and left them know the talk that's been going on? Seriously?
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I haven't notified them. Have you? I don't make any assumptions that anyone else has.
I haven't notified them. Have you? I don't make any assumptions that anyone else has.
April 28, 2009 12:58 PM
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I make assumptions all the time when it comes to the digi community. We actually are like a bunch of teenagers sitting in the corner gossiping, and gossip is never truly confined just to that corner now is it?
Oh come on, are you guys for real? You really don't think they read this blog or know anything about this? You have GOT to be kidding?? Bren Boone has posted at least a couple times in this thread, and you know damn well that she has told the owner and other designers at SP about it. I'm sure they are monitoring it very closely. The cannot claim ignorance at all.
Thank you 1:06.
Must be a bunch of Republicans in here. Clueless and paranoid with absolutely nothing else to do except blabber bullshit.
I haven't been in here for about 3 days and there's like 3 or 4 pages of posts...about Amanda?
WTF people, seriously. Get away from your computer and go outside and play ball with your kids or something.
As a business owner, I would never let an anonymous blog control my business. I do not think SO closed LAT's shop because of this blog. That is just ridiculous.
Whether SO should have contacted SPD depends on what their reason was. Since we don't know that reason it is all mere speculation.
The fact that LAT's designs are still for sale at SPD is not proof of anything. It just adds to the bizarreness of this whole situation.
Maybe SP is going with innocent until PROVEN guilty? They aren't going to be bullied by a bunch of people posting on an anon. blog.
Bren Boone has posted at least a couple times in this thread, and you know damn well that she has told the owner and other designers at SP about it.
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Good point. I stand corrected.
So if SP knows all about it maybe they don't have any proof of any wrong doing.
Or...and I read way to many mystery novels...they are in cahoots with AD/LAT so they are leaving her stuff up so we will think they are not the same person. Very deep conspiracy theory here. But what the heck. Pass the popcorn please.
If SO had enough "evidence" to shut her store down, they had a moral obligation to contact her other store(s).
April 28, 2009 12:30 PM
They not under that obligation. It could have been personal difference. That's enough reason to shut a store down. But doesn't need to be reported to every store owner in digiworld.
WTF people, seriously. Get away from your computer and go outside and play ball with your kids or something.
April 28, 2009 1:15 PMWTF, you're apparently not outside playing ball either.
As a business owner, I would never let an anonymous blog control my business. I do not think SO closed LAT's shop because of this blog. That is just ridiculous.Read and comprehend before you type. Not once has anyone said that this blog caused SO to shut down LAT's store. Someone said they thought this blog had a big influence over the digi community. End of story.
April 28, 2009 1:15 PMWTF, you're apparently not outside playing ball either.
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I'm so bored with these types of responses.
I'm so bored with these types of responses.
April 28, 2009 1:50 PM
Yeah me too. Not quite sure why I typed that other than the fact that I was feeling a little giddy from the heat. Sorry bout that.
LMAO WV=grated. Like this whole freaking thing is just really grating on my last nerve, but here I still am reading.
[They not under that obligation. It could have been personal difference. That's enough reason to shut a store down. But doesn't need to be reported to every store owner in digiworld.]
Right. I'm sure that was it.
Right. I'm sure that was it.
April 28, 2009 2:26 PM
I didn't say that was it. But we don't know what it was so it could have been something like that. Who know? Maybe she didn't contribute to the collab?
This has been a fun ride. Thank you to whoever posted that initial fake screen shot.
I don't know if AD = LAT but they are obviously connected and maybe that is what the original poster wanted to make known.
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Yep, that would be me. And to set the record straight. I have never met AD or LA IRL, I have only ever worked with Amanda while she was at DC, I have however been in touch with her about the bud club as I knew she was wanting someone to purchase the club from her. We are not hosting her Bud Club, we just purchased it from her and have moved it to our "DST copy cat" site - which she has posted that in the Bud Club section of the site. I just thought I would clarify a few things, seeing as you didn't know who owned DC.
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I do not think this is the real Kate. Most owners use their full names. And I can't believe that she would call her other site the "DST copy cat" site. Wouldn't an owner give the correct name and possibly a link in the hopes that we would click over there to check it out.
Actually, I am friends with Holly and Nikki but I haven't contacted either of them.
I don't want them knowing I read this. lol
And as for the trouble-making designer, well you give this blog a lot of credit for being able to control what's going on in the digi community. If indeed that's the case, give us proof, not just innuendoes and, since we have so much power, let this blog and its readers/smackers see what they can do to take care of this designer.
April 28, 2009 10:17 AM
So who is she and where's the proof? I know many have insinuated that MB is the trouble-maker, but that's all there's been, insinuations. Is it MB, is there someone else? Is there any proof? Anything even as circumstantial as in the LAT=AD situation? 3:19 is right. This has been a fun ride, not sure I'm ready to see it end quite yet. Damned teenage genes anyway, always getting in the way of grownup, rational thoughts.
I normally can see another persons side of most situations. Even if I don't agree with them, I can understand where they are coming from and empathize with them.
I find this whole situation eerie. One connection between AD and LAT would be one thing and could be explained as a coincidence. But there are far too many connections here to be mere coincidences.
I might have gone for the theory that LAT was an AD stalker/copycat, but then AD comes here and claims to be LAT's friend and "loves her work". What's not to love when it looks just like yours??
At this point my vote would be that they are the same person. And here I can empathize with Amanda. Not that I think she did the right thing, but I can understand that she wanted to continue doing what she loves and tried to create a new image so she could be back in the game.
But I even have problems with that scenario because if I were coming back as a new identity I would make sure I did things differently than I did before so it wouldn't be obvious. Like they say that when you go through the witness protection program you need to really change up your life. Not do things like you did before because that makes it too easy to identify you.
LAT's m.o. is so similar to AD's that I find it difficult to imagine that AD wouldn't have been smart enough to change it up a bit.
Hence, my utter confusion in this whole situation.
Well, here's some dirt for you. Sherlock Holmes back and it occurred to
me that if LA is AD, then she couldn't possibly have worked for a paper
company right? So it took no time at all to contact the powers that be
at Autumn Leaves, and low and behold, what do you know? They said that
they've had a ton of inquiries into a LilyAnne Taylor and they have no
record of anyone by that name ever working for their company. So it
seems as though you're both, if there are actually two of you to begin
with) lying.
So Amanda, what do you have to say to that?
Huh, imagine that. Autumn Leaves has never heard of LAT. I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya. You think that's why with a google search she never existed before March, and the only place she's ever existed is digi land in the past month. Shocked, yep I am.
I think Lilyanne used a CU item from Amanda's stash and that is what got her in trouble and removed from SO and ES. One store found out and they are most likely going to let all the other stores she sells at know. Who knows why SP hasn't let her go yet. I think there are just too many coincidences here.
Oh, and just for the record, I think Melissa Bennett is a total bitch, and I agree that she doesn't have an idea of her own.
Maybe cos Laura Deceatis is an idiot?
Maybe cos Laura Deceatis is an idiot?
April 28, 2009 5:15 PM
Well she may be an idiot, I've never met the woman, but she obviously knows what's going on with LA/AD because she's disabled the collaboration kits with Misty Cato and Bren Boone! So she know's that something is up right?
Sounds to me like Amanda Dykan is there to stay at Shabby Pickle!
Maybe Misty and Bren asked her to? Looks bad for Faith True if they did, hers is still there.
wv: chuzzin. Chuzzin to ignore the truth, Laura?
[Maybe Misty and Bren asked her to? Looks bad for Faith True if they did, hers is still there].
All the more reason to believe that it was the store that took the collabs down. It was the kits that had designers in stores other than SPD that disappeared. Faith True sells at SPD right?
Well IF I were Faith True, and I had asked to have my collab withdrawn as well and SP had not done so, I wouldn't be selling at SP any more.
And IF I were Faith True and I hadn't asked, I'd be worried about my credibility.
In either case, IF I were Laura Deceatis I would be gaily skipping thru the meadow waving a bunch of daisies and singing the Teletubbies song. That is, apparently, what she's doing.
I'm tired of the control that this blog has over everything.
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This blog doesn't have control over anything.
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And I know that there is a designer who is going around stiring stuff up. It makes me really angry that she has that type of control in this community. I hope people will see that for it is.
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THIS is what is wrong with the "community." A bunch of vague innuendo, half-assed accusations, and all the stupid juvenile secrecy.
If someone's doing something wrong, have the freakin' guts to call them out, or just shut the hell up. The vague little hints do nothing but fuel speculation, gossip, and a bunch of inaccuracies.
The 'meanies' who 'control' things wouldn't be able to control any.damn.thing if everyone else would just be honest and quit ennabling them.
wv=liatini
Amanda Dykan's drink of choice??!
PS Somebody needs to tell Angie Kovacs as well, her collab is still there and she doesn't sell at SP.
>And I know that there is a designer who is going around stiring stuff up. It makes me really angry that she has that type of control in this community. I hope people will see that for it is.
We do Amanda, we see it only too clearly. I think that's what you're worried about.
Well, here's some dirt for you. Sherlock Holmes back and it occurred to
me that if LA is AD, then she couldn't possibly have worked for a paper
company right? So it took no time at all to contact the powers that be
at Autumn Leaves, and low and behold, what do you know? They said that
they've had a ton of inquiries into a LilyAnne Taylor and they have no
record of anyone by that name ever working for their company. So it
seems as though you're both, if there are actually two of you to begin
with) lying.
So Amanda, what do you have to say to that?
April 28, 2009 4:43 PM
ok, so now we know LAT is a big fat liar too. whether or not she's AD, although i think that's pretty much been established, she lied about working for paper companies.
interesting that we've heard from AD but not from LAT. wonder how LAT can explain this one away.
Where has LAT been the last few days. No posts on her blog, no posts at SO, SPD or DST. The shit hits the fan and she just disappears?
That's the problem with imaginary friends, they are never there when you need them...
Sounds to me like Amanda Dykan is there to stay at Shabby Pickle!
April 28, 2009 5:26 PM
If that's the case the Pickle has lost my business. Like someone said, WHY do stores who want credibility have anything to do with Amanda Dykan?
I'm also very disappointed that Faith True is apparently CHOOSING to help Amanda deceive people.
Boos to both Faith and SP :(
I was just reading the about LilyAnne section of her blog. It is very obvious that she didn't write this herself.
For example:
"LilyAnne is a 30-something year old" not "I am a 30-something year old.
"You can find her store here at Imaginary Crackers " not "You can find my store"
"Feel free to Email our girl" not "feel free to email me"
rather interesting...
What are the references about a scrapper shooting at Amanda? What the heck did Amanda do to make people not like her so much?
5.54 After one of Ms Dykan's regular meltdowns (can't remember whether it was a piracy one or a running off with ppl's money one at this point) somebody shot her door. Probably just a kid with an air gun or something, these things happen, but in true drama queen style Ms D complained long and loud to anyone who would listen that it was a scrapper who had been whipped up into a frenzy of unjustified hatred by evil blogs (such as this one).
I think it was at that point that any doubt whatsoever about Ms D's mental condition was conclusively removed from people's minds.
wv: doofec. And isn't she just.
Must be a bunch of Republicans in here. Clueless and paranoid with absolutely nothing else to do except blabber bullshit.
I haven't been in here for about 3 days and there's like 3 or 4 pages of posts...about Amanda?
WTF people, seriously. Get away from your computer and go outside and play ball with your kids or something.
April 28, 2009 1:15 PM
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First, I'm not a Republican, I don't live in the US.
Second, my kid is in school, I'm not going to drag her out just to play ball to satisfy you.
Third, the posts are not just about Amanda in the way you think. They are about deceit and lies and covers up. Amanda just happens to feature in them.
In either case, IF I were Laura Deceatis I would be gaily skipping thru the meadow waving a bunch of daisies and singing the Teletubbies song. That is, apparently, what she's doing.
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ROTFL From what I hear that's what she's always doing!
That's the problem with imaginary friends, they are never there when you need them...
April 28, 2009 5:46 PM
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Love this comeback! I want to use it in my signature.
This blog has no control over anything. There was one blog, the "bad blog" that may have had some control, but not this one, this one never gets mentioned anywhere in the forums that I have seen. Maybe in the DCR, which means you've outted yourself as a designer or store owner.
As for SP not knowing, like other have said, get real. There were quite a few designer names listed as last visitors on Claudia's, Amanda's and LilyAnne's profiles at DST just after they were mentioned here. Some of them are honest enough to admit they read here, others play the 'oh-so-innocent' card.
And? Everyone knows I read here. And so would you, if you read Scrap Talk.
I don't read ScrapTalk, I have no idea what that is. But if you admit it, you aren't one of the 'oh-so-innocent' ones that reads, says they don't and causes all sorts of trouble any way, and yet, no one seems to clue in.
Scrap Talk is a forum at DST :)
wv: fogess. What I want to be when I am old.
It's no secret lots of designers read here.. they probably like watching train wrecks as much as scrappers do.
I don't read ScrapTalk, I have no idea what that is. But if you admit it, you aren't one of the 'oh-so-innocent' ones that reads, says they don't and causes all sorts of trouble any way, and yet, no one seems to clue in.
April 28, 2009 6:27 PM
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Just because they read, doesn't mean they cause trouble! Some of us like to stay out of trouble but like to keep up with the latest.
I have no doubt that just as many scrappers stir the pot as designers.
Ruby, you might have better luck with responses if you move that one over to scrap talk.. so far it looks like no-one wants to comment...
Oops, I meant, move that one over to hot topics! ROFL
Oh but if were a Hot Topic it wouldn't be an innocent question, would it? LOL
Moved I'll give it five minutes before someone deletes it.
Oh but if were a Hot Topic it wouldn't be an innocent question, would it? LOL
April 28, 2009 6:39 PM
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ROFL Sorry but there is no way that came across as an innocent question. LOL LOL It sounded like an attempt to stir the pot.
Moving it appears to have worked tho, there is a response already!
French Ruby LOL. Can't say I always agree with her point of view, but she's one gutsy lady, I'll give her that.
Yeah, who would have thunk Ms Smith was a blog reader ;)
Not so much stirring the pot as bringing the pot to the table. Too easy for certain people to ignore the whole thing whilst they can pretend they never read this blog.
I'm still hoping that SPD will pay Amanda Dykan for all the sales she must be getting from this publicity. Making the check to LilyAnn Taylor, obviously.
French Ruby LOL. Can't say I always agree with her point of view, but she's one gutsy lady, I'll give her that.
April 28, 2009 6:50 PM
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Yes, she is not backwards in coming forward. ;-)
It's no secret lots of designers read here.. they probably like watching train wrecks as much as scrappers do.
April 28, 2009 6:33 PM
I'm sure they do like watching the train wrecks that they create
Well I guess that explains why Ms Dykan is still hanging around here 7.01...
The fact that LA is missing in action is proof enough. If she were innocent she would have come forward and stopped this long before now. If Amanda were such a friend to her she would have let her know that all this was going on so she could defend herself.
wv=deschi-does she really think we are so stupid???
I'm sure they do like watching the train wrecks that they create
April 28, 2009 7:01 PM
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Well I am a designer and take offense to that, because I DON'T create those train wrecks. The people that behave so stupidly do along with the people who like to stir the pot...
Maybe Misty and Bren have some evidence that the rest of us don't have - evidence which warranted having the collabs pulled. I can't imagine they had them pulled based on smack blog speculation.
I don't read ScrapTalk, I have no idea what that is. But if you admit it, you aren't one of the 'oh-so-innocent' ones that reads, says they don't and causes all sorts of trouble any way, and yet, no one seems to clue in.
April 28, 2009 6:27 PM
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Just because they read, doesn't mean they cause trouble! Some of us like to stay out of trouble but like to keep up with the latest.
April 28, 2009 6:35 PM
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That's not what I said at all, Please go ahead and read it again.
I'm sure they do like watching the train wrecks that they create
April 28, 2009 7:01 PM
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Well I am a designer and take offense to that, because I DON'T create those train wrecks. The people that behave so stupidly do along with the people who like to stir the pot...
April 28, 2009 7:04 PM
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If you don't create them, then what's your problem? She was talking about the designers that do create the train wrecks.
They moved Ruby's thread. LOL
If you don't create them, then what's your problem? She was talking about the designers that do create the train wrecks.
April 28, 2009 7:21 PM
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Was she? I didn't see here differentiating between the two at all. Sounded like we were all lumped in the one basket to me.
Hmm, Faith True *is* as stupid as she looks then.
They moved Ruby's thread. LOL
April 28, 2009 7:26 PM
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Ruby herself moved it.
Well Faith True has come to LilyAnne's defense at DST. Why don't you all come out of lurkdom and post over there and really give the mods something to think about.
If you don't create them, then what's your problem? She was talking about the designers that do create the train wrecks.
April 28, 2009 7:21 PM
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Was she? I didn't see here differentiating between the two at all. Sounded like we were all lumped in the one basket to me.
April 28, 2009 7:27 PM
Actually, I WAS. But now I'm wondering why you're so defensive if you're so innocent.
Hmm, Faith True *is* as stupid as she looks then.
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I don't know what *stupid* looks like to you. I would not judge someones intelligence based on their looks. There are a lot of beautiful stupid people and there are alot of brilliant average looking people. I don't think Faith looks stupid at all.
(no I don't know her, don't own any of her products, I'm not a designer and I am not on a CT, I just thought that was a mean comment)
I don't think even Faith believes what she said there. Wishful thinking maybe? I think she wants to leave that collab kit up as long as she possibly can, to make as much $$ as possible before it eventually, inevitably, gets pulled, as it should. Saying that she doesn't believe the allegations only gives her a false sense of security that maybe people won't hold it against her that she's keeping it up
The allegations may seem ridiculous. And if there was only a couple of things I would agree. But even I who normally stick up for everyone can not deny that there are too many unanswered questions.
Actually, I WAS. But now I'm wondering why you're so defensive if you're so innocent.
April 28, 2009 7:32 PM
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Whatever, and because I don't like being called something I am not.
The allegations may seem ridiculous. And if there was only a couple of things I would agree. But even I who normally stick up for everyone can not deny that there are too many unanswered questions.
April 28, 2009 7:55 PM
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Yup I agree, I am not one to throw stones and would normally give benefit of the doubt, but there are just too many co-incidences...
Whatever, and because I don't like being called something I am not.
April 28, 2009 7:55 PM
No one called you anything. Where did you get that idea?
No one called you anything. Where did you get that idea?
April 28, 2009 7:59 PM
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Sigh..... never mind!
WOW! 183 views and only 2 people have responded...
WOW! 183 views and only 2 people have responded...
April 28, 2009 8:10 PM
Are you one of those two or one of the 183?
Are you one of those two or one of the 183?
April 28, 2009 9:14 PM
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ROFL! Wouldn't you like to know!
Seriously tho, I have no desire to be involved in drama so make up your own mind on that one.
so... when you work on a collab... is it strictly over email? or phone too?
so... when you work on a collab... is it strictly over email? or phone too?
April 28, 2009 9:59 PM
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Huh??? you have lost me?
How does that correlate to not wanting to be involved with drama?
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Huh??? you have lost me?
How does that correlate to not wanting to be involved with drama?
April 28, 2009 10:03 PM Um... this is the comments section. Not a one-on-one instant messaging service.
Faith in her post spoke as if working on colabs with LA proved that this was all false. So, when you work on a colab, is all communication generally through email? or via phone, etc?
Faith in her post spoke as if working on colabs with LA proved that this was all false. So, when you work on a colab, is all communication generally through email? or via phone, etc?
April 28, 2009 10:07 PM
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When I was designing, all the collabs I did were strictly through email, sometimes though IM, or PMs.
Maybe she wants to believe in the goodness of people. Rose colored glasses are nice.
Thanks 10:09. I'll take her reply with a grain of salt
Hmm, maybe you would have more luck asking the question in the DCR??
Faith's defense of "Lily Anne" is just ridiculous. So emailing with someone just ensures their identity and/or honesty?
It's insulting that she thinks anyone would be stupid enough to buy that.
I'm so done with her and Shabby Pickle.
It is far easier to prove they ARE 2 different people than it is to prove they AREN'T.
Oddly, neither of them seems that interested in proving it.
Get them both on a conference call with someone.
And record it, because listening to one person try to do 2 voices would be hall of fame worthy.
ROFLOL
they have to sing a song at the same time.
Interesting to note that you can find Amanda Dykan in the White Pages but you can't find LilyAnne Taylor, not in Southlake, Texas anyway. There are some LilyAnnes in other parts of Texas, just not the part she claims she's from. Doesn't prove anything, but it is interesting.
Must be a bunch of Republicans in here. Clueless and paranoid with absolutely nothing else to do except blabber bullshit.
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Hi Hayley!
Oh my gosh. I realize I have been obsessed with this whole subject. Yet, I don't know the players involved at all so why the heck am I playing this game.
I suddenly realized that I've heard of Amanda but never did any business with her. I didn't get involved with the bud club. After the Tandika incident I have vowed away from digital subscriptions. I saw that she jumped around and spread herself too thin so I stayed away.
So tonight I found myself googling this LilyAnne chick and all of a sudden I realized I had wasted hours. All on someone I don't know and don't care about.
Sometimes I just need to close my eyes to all that is going on in the digi world. It is all so surreal and at the moment not adding anything productive to my life. I am going to step away and get back to real life for a while.
I'll check back in a few weeks. There will either be some answers or this will just fade into la la land never to be resolved. Such a shame really to have to deal with all this crap and take the fun away from such a wonderful hobby.
Didn't Amanda Kay sell with Amanda Dykan at Purple Paper Flowers too? That is just a little suspicious. And Then Amanda Kay ends up on Lilyanne's creative team but doesn't know it's Amanda Dykan, after all that time working with Amanda Dykan?
Didn't they sell at Digital Candy together too?...
April 27, 2009 8:20 PM
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Yes I sold briefly at PPF with AD. No I did not sell with her at DC. I left DC long before she showed up there. Not sure what it has to do with anything though.
I stopped designing to focus on other things like my family and then in my spare time running SUN & scrapping.
I saw Lily Anne's call and applied because I thought her kits looked cute and she was someone new and different. I was away visiting family and came back to multiple emails and PM's about all of this and how Lily Anne might be AD, blah blah blah. I've been given many explanations/stories from stores, designers, and scrappers. I personally don't what is true and what isn't but I'm no longer on her CT because I'd rather not be involved in it. I honestly don't go around assuming all designers that make (or steal in this case) cute doodles are AD but maybe from now on I should, could have saved me a lot of trouble.
Anyway, just thought I'd clear that up... carry on...
You lost me at why DC would buy the Bud Club. Just start your own "club"? What's the point of buying a defunct one?
They bought the current membership and tutorials. The tuts are worth something and it's easier than building from scratch.
ding ding ding!
Faith True: "I may have to think about this. I don't want the drama with her surrounding me. It's all too strange now."
Thank God.
ooh... Did I just hear the sound of a penny dropping?
wv: oxness. What a cow has?
Oh no! That cunt Opeysmama is upset! Shut down the thread, if her uptight ass doesn't unclench soon there WILL be hell to pay for all of us!!!
wv: operly...Opey's ass was operly clenched
Oh no! That cunt Opeysmama is upset! Shut down the thread, if her uptight ass doesn't unclench soon there WILL be hell to pay for all of us!!!
wv: operly...Opey's ass was operly clenched
April 29, 2009 11:40 AM
***********************************Yep was just coming here to post about that. That woman needs to learn to lighten up. Tacky huh? How is it tacky? Isn't DST supposed to the place we're able to go and ask questions and seek answers? If it's done nothing else at least it's made Faith rethink her position on the whole thing. So dear opeysmama can chastise all she wants or, better yet, go take a flying f**king leap somewhere.
OMG have you ever heard from a more self-righteous know-it-all in your life? She really needs to be knocked down a peg or two and figure out she ain't all that. But somehow I think Ruby's just the gal to do it.
oh joy so you finally see that faith is not the innocent everyone always claimed her to be.
I"m at work and don't have time. I was wondering if someone could type up a list of the coincidences and post them at DST. Maybe Ruby would be the best person since she has already posted there.
We could keep the questions professional and polite so as to not be accused of drama.
Oh and look at Canay. She ranks right up there with Ruby when it comes to sense and reason. A list of the the coincidences and concerns would be great, but I'm at work too.
Opeysmama is such a liar!!!!
Canay... I know you read here. I *heart* you.
Guess Opeysmama got some PMs about LilyAnne's apparent pirating then. Shame she didn't also get the message that it seemed to be linked to Amanda Dykan (who, as we know has form for it) and _that_ was what set the alarm bells ringing in the first place, before even the screenshot appeared.
yeah - but that screen shot was seen by quite a few folks, before the cu thing even started happening - it's what made Melissa go snooping in the first place. The screen shot just didn't go public til later.
Now - is Ashley Olson one to talk about coming out to straighten up the story?!
Well I guess she knows all about dealing with drama by ignoring it. Makes you wonder why she cares what 'truth' comes out though, huh?
Makes you wonder why she cares what 'truth' comes out though, huh?
April 29, 2009 1:04 PM
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Makes you wonder how she evens has the nerve to post to that thread, let alone expecting to hear the truth come out.
"Interesting to note that you can find Amanda Dykan in the White Pages but you can't find LilyAnne Taylor"
You mean to tell me that after Amanda Dykan accused this board of traveling to her home and putting a bullet in her door...after fabricating an entire stalking campaign, after screaming at the top of her lungs about how afraid she was, about how wronged she was, lying about how she had IP's and emails and threatening the people who post on this board with arrests from the local "precinct" - and then going public and falsely accusing this board of creating monster bloggers that lurk in the dark with guns blazing...rflmao...so after all that insane drama, this delusional human has not taken steps to have her address and phone number secured?
Now on Earth could she possibly accuse 'us' of knowing where she lives (and abusing that knowledge) if the information wasn't actually available anywhere? Come on, you have to fuel your paranoia otherwise you might turn up sane somewhere, and who would talk about you then?
Go Canay :)
What happens if all these crazy accusations and assumptions turn out to be untrue?
I would be very happy for LilyAnne if that is so.
Any one of the issues might be able to be explained. LilyAnne may be an online name hence no directory listing or reference from Autumn Leaves. She emulated Amanda's style because she likes and admires Amanda. Amanda could have been mentoring her which explains the similarity and that is how she could have so many kits available in such a short time. She may have purchased all the CU items she used. She changed stores looking for a better dear....
All we are asking is for the explanations.
I think this is only part of the issue.
I am concerned about the concept that we should just shut up and not ask questions and just buy what we like.
Personally, I am insulted by that attitude.
All we are asking is for the explanations.
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You got one when Amanda posted. ;)
That's Donna's speciality though. She frequently posts a new thread with the 'only post in this thread if you agree with me' tagline. Stupid bitch.
One does have to wonder why, if LilyAnne did buy all that CU stuff why she didn't have any store receipts, PayPal receipts, PayPal account records or even a recollection of the username she used to purchase them.
Also why she had access to Amanda Dykan's DST/DCR account.
End of the day, DST know that either Amanda Dykan IS LilyAnne, or that she shared her DCR access with LilyAnne. The first is of no concern to them, but the second is a banning offence.
Amanda isn't banned. So what does that tell you?
I rarely get involved in the digi drama. But I stepped out of my box and posted at DST.
I don't know if any of this is true or not. I hope it is all one big fat mistake.
PS She didn't leave SO, she was fired. May have been looking for a better deal, but she got the boot nonetheless.
I am concerned about the concept that we should just shut up and not ask questions and just buy what we like.
Personally, I am insulted by that attitude.
April 29, 2009 1:57 PM
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Ah yes, but if you want places like DST to remain all sunshine and kool-aid isn't that what we should do? Shut up, shop and spend our money? Doesn't matter that the person we're giving that money too might be the most unscrupulous designer in the business. If you like her stuff, buy it. Just shut up and pretend everything is all sunshine and kool-aid.
As for the accusations being false? Well if that ever comes to be proven I will be more than happy to apologize to LAT. But since she seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth I'm not sure how I'd go about apologizing.
All we are asking is for the explanations.
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You got one when Amanda posted. ;)
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But her explanation did not make reasonable sense. Were you satisfied with her explanation or did it leave you feeling like something was missing?
Just send your apology c/o Amanda Dykan (you can get her address from White Pages), I'm sure it would get there since they are such good buddies.
We didn't get an explanation did we? Only 'the screenshot is fake' (it isn't) and 'she's my buddy'. That's not an explanation.
Fact is, Amanda cannot offer an explanation, because if she could she would be admitting she was LilyAnne. Only LilyAnne can offer the explanation, and Amanda is too chicken shit to even TRY and pull a stunt like that.
Prove me wrong Amanda :)
If Amanda is LilyAnne it is too bad she just didn't admit it here. It probably would have all gone away.
I always thought that is what Clinton should have done. Said "yeah I'm a horny guy and got it on with Monica". People probably would have thought "oh ok, typical guy" and not thought any more about it. It is the continual lying and denial that pisses everyone off.
Seriously, next time you do something wrong and get called on it. Just admit it. People won't know how to react and it will be forgotten much sooner.
LAT's CT are vouching for her, but can they absolutely prove that she is not who she claims to be?
In all this mess, if Lilyanne is truly Lilyanne, how will she prove it? Personally, I don't think staying silent is the best way. Silence gets interpreted as guilt.
Seems to me the store owners have the proof if they required Amanda and Lilyanne to fill out W-4s, no?
word.
If Amanda is LilyAnne it is too bad she just didn't admit it here. It probably would have all gone away.
I always thought that is what Clinton should have done. Said "yeah I'm a horny guy and got it on with Monica". People probably would have thought "oh ok, typical guy" and not thought any more about it. It is the continual lying and denial that pisses everyone off.
Seriously, next time you do something wrong and get called on it. Just admit it. People won't know how to react and it will be forgotten much sooner.
If Amanda is LilyAnne it is too bad she just didn't admit it here. It probably would have all gone away.
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HA! Whatever! It never went away for AO. She admitted it. You all still smack her at every opportunity.
(I'm not AO. If that's the only response you have, then you're lame.)
Seems to me the store owners have the proof if they required Amanda and Lilyanne to fill out W-4s, no?
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It's not required for consignment contracts.
When I joined my store I had to provide a copy of my passport and a W-9. I also had to sign and return a contract which they postal mailed to me (hence confirming my address). Seems other stores don't do the same, which is a shame and a surprise given the recent history of this whole industry.
You all still smack her at every opportunity.
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I don't smack her at all.
But as I recall (but my memory may be bad) is the AO didn't really admit it. She had "excuses" for what she did.
When I joined my store I had to provide a copy of my passport and a W-9. I also had to sign and return a contract which they postal mailed to me (hence confirming my address). Seems other stores don't do the same, which is a shame and a surprise given the recent history of this whole industry
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What store are you at. It sounds like they are very professional and how all stores should be.
You all still smack her at every opportunity.
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That's only because Amanda keeps providing the opportunities.
Ashley Olsen posted in the DST thread about fake identities--now THAT's tacky.
Did everyone forget that AO also ran off with money when TDS went down the shitter? she didn't post or contact the designers for... how long?
no - no one forgot, thus the snarky comments about AO doing what she's doing at DST.
Is the board owner alive/
AO apologized has been forgiven and and she still participates at DST. Just because someone made mistakes is no reason to hold it over them forever.
she paid the designers
Let's not let someone use AO as a diversion here.
Let's not let someone use AO as a diversion here.
April 29, 2009 3:31 PM
Lame. You have nothing better to say?
I said I wasn't AO. It's not AD either.
If LA was a nobody selling at a barely known store, would this have even been an issue?
If LA was a nobody selling at a barely known store, would this have even been an issue?
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Well, LA was pretty much of a nobody. She'd only been around 2 months and I bet many people did not know who she was until reading about her on this blog.
It's hard to know why the person who took the screen shot did that and then posted it here. Would she have done the same thing if LilyAnne was at a barely known store?
Or did she do it because she noticed Amanda's name and that got her sleuthing? It wouldn't have mattered who was on the other side. LilyAnne, or BettyJo, or whatever.
LilyAnne may be an online name hence no directory listing or reference from Autumn Leaves.
If you're submitting an application for employment with your name on it and you list a reference, is it not assumed the reference should be for the name on your application?
If the reference is for a name other than the name on your application, should you not divulge that information on said application so your potential employer can actually verify the reference you are providing?
By neglecting to inform your potential employer that the reference might actually be under another name, are you not just setting YOURSELF up to look like a liar?
By neglecting to inform your potential employer that the reference might actually be under another name, are you not just setting YOURSELF up to look like a liar?
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Definitely, But I don't know what information she gave her potential employer and Kami from Scrap Orchard did not divulge any of that.
I don't know who posted here that they checked with Autumn Leaves. Was that just a scrapper sleuthing or was it someone from one of the stores? I guess that is one of the problems with posting anon. We don't know what's true or not.
I think it is funny that the name of the blog is
IMAGINARY CRACKERS
geez Amanda it is all made up isn't it?
If LA was a nobody selling at a barely known store, would this have even been an issue?
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I think the "issue" was the fact that it was Amanda possibly posing as someone else, not that it was an up and coming designer at a popular store.
just helping to push it to 1K
Do a whois on imaginarycrackers.com and you'll find that it's registered with godaddy but with an anonymous proxy listed as the registrar. It's not any better proof, just another "hmmm..." to add to the list.
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