The rest of the story...a place to freely discuss "the hub of the digital scrapbook community"
Saturday, April 11, 2009
Happy Easter!
I told you I would be back around Easter! What has been going on around the digi scene? Looks like the Scrapper Awards are coming to DST soon, always some good controversy with those. National Scrapbook day coming hopefully some good sales.
Can you guys just imagine Amanda behind her computer saying, "Oh, shit-they found me out again!" when someone figures out another of her "truths" to be a lie?? LOL! It makes me chuckle.
wv=resqu Sorry, no one can rescue you now Amanda/LilyAnne
Well Shannon posts screenies from the DCR and promises to keep the thread open. No Kool Aid! Is this another first for DST? ---------------------------------- Kudos to Shannon. ^^^^^ I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised by Shannon's most recent posts.
Can you guys just imagine Amanda behind her computer saying, "Oh, shit-they found me out again!" when someone figures out another of her "truths" to be a lie?? LOL! It makes me chuckle ---------------------- I think she's so crazy that she doesn't even try to make up plausible lies. That woman needs serious help
wow little ms. self-righteous opeysmama may finally being some light. i have to say that this time she indeed did surprise me.
LMAO WV=outcher - let's all out her yet again...ah amanda, you just can't quite get that grip on reality can you? it's a shame really, i was liking what i was seeing from lat.
Has anyone checked to see if even the personal use items used in her LO's were actually purchased by her? If AD purchased them at one point and there's no proof that LAT purchased them...? She has products by Blythe Evans, Jofia, Linda Billdale, etc. http://scraporchard.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=12036
I don't believe that pic of 'LilyAnne' for a second. I have a friend who lives in that area of Texas, she's been complaining about the heat for weeks. Why would LAT be wearing long sleeves and a knitted hat??? Even inside with the a/c on, nobody dresses like that when it's that hot. Maybe AD has a good friend in Quebec.
I live in East Texas and it's been in the 70s for weeks now. 90s the past 2 weeks. I put up my winter clothes at the end of March and haven't looked back. I do agree with a previous post about the shadow on that piece of paper too, it's a little off.
I was wondering about "LilyAnne's" digital purchases too. If "LilyAnne" is using Flergs shawdows, like Amanda; then she would have a receipt for them, with her name on it.
It is a weird photo. Even putting the warm clothing, the hotel room, and the odd note aside... who lays on a bed all casual like that with a note saying "not amanda-see!" just seems weird to me. I think I would just stand in front of the camera and hold the note. ALthough, I would also plan to hold the note while standing with Amanda.
Of course, even that wouldn't prove anything. Did anyone notice how they both use the hyphen as punctuation a lot? Who does that?
It's looking to me like LA is a real person but Amanda is using her identity as a way to sneak through the backdoor, standing over LA, pulling all the strings. That's just how it's starting to smell to me. LA probably isn't a real designer of any kind and has no interest in doing so and she may have just been a front for Amanda. I know if it was my name being smeared everywhere, I would've came out publicly. Her silence speaks volumes.
Oh Heather, just stop!!! I can understand why Heather is saying what she's saying, but why is she providing Amanda with more excuses? Sheesh, if wacko AD is going to lie to everyone, at least don't provide the lies for her!
I knew there was no way that Melissa would have given permission for her images to be used like that. I've been around this kind of industry for a long time and I don't tend to say stuff just for the heck of saying stuff.
So regardless of who LAT is, she did a no-no. Any other newcomer I might have accepted that they didn't know any better. But Amanda was showing her the ropes and introducing her to this community and we know that Amanda knew better.
Either she allowed a good friend to do something really wrong or she herself was designing under the name of LilyAnne.
Can I go to bed now? It's 2am and I am really tired LOL -------------------------------- Yeah you go to bed, and I'll go to Tahiti. Gosh I couldn't leave the country with all these unanswered questions.
But how do we know that was really Melissa? I have screenshots that will prove that Ruby created that user name! Wait, I have it around here somewhere...
But how do we know that was really Melissa? I have screenshots that will prove that Ruby created that user name! Wait, I have it around here somewhere...
April 30, 2009 7:20 PM
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You have screen shots proving Ruby created that user name? Put up or shut up, unless of course you're just attempting to be funny and I'm missing the humor. Otherwise I don't believe it for a second.
So are we saying that Amanda and LilyAnne are sisters then or related and live with one another? Seriously. My point was that it's a little odd to share an IP with someone not in your immediate family. Once again I have to be literal.
You have screen shots proving Ruby created that user name? Put up or shut up, unless of course you're just attempting to be funny and I'm missing the humor. Otherwise I don't believe it for a second. ________________
7:42 here and I apologize. The bottle would be extremely nice, depending on what's in it. As for the nap, well that's gonna have to wait. Sorry for the grump, grandson is in the ER waiting for results of a hip x-ray, and I'm sitting here on pins and needles waiting to hear what's going on.
But how do we know that was really Melissa? I have screenshots that will prove that Ruby created that user name! Wait, I have it around here somewhere... ---------------------------- You can always contact Melissa and ask her. That's the preferred method. Go straight to the source:)
Your internet privileges have been revoked, 8:08. >.< ------------------------- I know I should know these things. I went to twitter today and thought I landed on another planet. I think you hit a certain age and all of a sudden technology seems so hard to keep up with.
For what ever reason I never really understood the term when I heard it and didn't have any reason to check into it. I suppose I could google "ip addresses" and find out more than I need to know.
*********************************** I have? Really, damn hadn't realized. Guess I need to apologize yet again, but I'm just not gonna do it. Damn my insensitivity.
Oh and....Amanda has a dynamic IP (changes frequently)....what does this mean. How do you get a dynamic IP address?
April 30, 2009 8:12 PM ------------------------------ Do you seriously not know this? It is a numeric connection id. It depends on your ISP and what kind of internet account you have. Some have a static ip, which means your ip is always the same, some have dynamic which means each time you log on, your ISP allocates you a different IP.
You can find out your ip address by going to http://www.whatsmyip.org/
If it changes every time you log on you have a dynamic IP, if it is always the same, you have a static ip.
I know I should know these things. I went to twitter today and thought I landed on another planet. I think you hit a certain age and all of a sudden technology seems so hard to keep up with. --------
What age is that? I haven't hit it yet and neither have my parents. I think it's a personal thing, more than an age thing.
IP is short of Internet Provider, so an IP address is an Internet Provider Address. It's generally something unique to you, like a street address. Your Internet Provider assigns you an 'address' when you sign up, so they can track you usage, amongst other things. I hope that helps.
Technically, IP stands for Internet Protocol. Anyway, if you're in the same house on two networked computers on the same internet connection, you'll have the same IP address.
So if someone has two IP addresses are they logging in on two different computers or two different internet providers?
April 30, 2009 8:22 PM --------------------------- That depends on if you have a dynamic or static ip! If you have dynamic ip, it changes every time you log on to the internet. Not everyone has a static ip.
If you have a dynamic ip, you can connect to the internet on the same computer twice on the same day and have a different ip each time.
so fill someone in on the hyphen ------------------------------ Earlier someone commented that both AD and LAT used hyphens and that it was unusual. They might have been joking, I don't know.
So the fact that Amanda has a dynamic IP (changes frequently). LilyAnne has two IP addresses. One of which is shared with no one. The other of which is shared with Amanda. Could be an indication that they are two separate people.
So the fact that Amanda has a dynamic IP (changes frequently). LilyAnne has two IP addresses. One of which is shared with no one. The other of which is shared with Amanda. Could be an indication that they are two separate people.
April 30, 2009 8:40 PM ------------------------------ No it doesn't really prove anything.
If Amanda is LilyAnne, then the fact she has a dynamic ip means her ip address will change as will 'LilyAnn's' and the fact they shared one ip addy, means 'they' were both logged in at one point under that ip. If they are not the same person, it just proves that LilyAnn used Amanda's internet connection or vice versa.
If Amanda is LilyAnne, then the fact she has a dynamic ip means her ip address will change as will 'LilyAnn's' and the fact they shared one ip addy, means 'they' were both logged in at one point under that ip. If they are not the same person, it just proves that LilyAnn used Amanda's internet connection or vice versa.
April 30, 2009 8:44 PM ---------------------------- I should say it doesn't prove anything except there is a connection between the two, either they have shared an internet connection, or they are the same person.
I guess I've been under a rock... I didn't know there was another smack block until tonight & saw the Lily thread. I don't shop around much so I didn't know who Lily was but had heard of Amanda before. What did she do to get banned from DST in the first place?
I don't think at this point Amanda will admit to anything. That's too bad. It would be interesting to have a girl to girl honest chat with her. I wonder what makes her tick.
When I joined my store I had to provide a copy of my passport and a W-9. I also had to sign and return a contract which they postal mailed to me (hence confirming my address). Seems other stores don't do the same, which is a shame and a surprise given the recent history of this whole industry.
April 29, 2009 2:35 PM ------------------------
This is effin nuts!! Why should the store owner be allowed to know the true identity of the designers (real name, real adress) while the designers wouldn't have access to these infos about the store owner? And don't tell me "if you have nothing to hide, why are you complaining?" I have nothing to hide but you never know if the store owner is going to double cross you either. It's not because they run stores that they are better than the designers they hire.
Well why in the world would you entrust your designs to a store-owner you don't trust??? There are plenty of decent store-owners around. Start asking other designers for references on the store-owners you are interested in selling for. I would never apply at a store without knowing if the owner was reputable!
"Why should the store owner be allowed to know the true identity of the designers (real name, real adress) while the designers wouldn't have access to these infos about the store owner?"
Well to be fair, I do have all that information about the store and it's owner because it's an LLC company and all that stuff is on public record (and yes, I did check before I signed with them).
In essence, the store is a proper business and not an amateur who don't know what they're doing. I wouldn't sign with any store who didn't take the business seriously.
Anyone want to take bets as to why AD was banned from DST? My first thought was maybe she harassed someone via PM or something and they reported her. Thoughts?
Well why in the world would you entrust your designs to a store-owner you don't trust??? There are plenty of decent store-owners around.
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Sometimes you don't know until it's too late. It's happen to a number of designers. They thought it was ok and then the owner disappears without paying designers. I think it's ridiculous to say "you should have known" because they always appear to be decent at first.
Isn't it odd/unusual that LAT just came out of nowhere, no one had heard of her and right off the bat starts selling at SP and SO and gets collab gigs with big name designers like Misty C.? Didn't AD have some collabs at SDD previously? I am not accusing anyone, but is it possible any of the stores/designers involved with her knew it was AD and went along with the charade cause they liked her designs & thought they would sell?
Isn't it odd/unusual that LAT just came out of nowhere, no one had heard of her and right off the bat starts selling at SP and SO and gets collab gigs with big name designers like Misty C.? Didn't AD have some collabs at SDD previously? I am not accusing anyone, but is it possible any of the stores/designers involved with her knew it was AD and went along with the charade cause they liked her designs & thought they would sell?
May 1, 2009 9:30 AM
*********************************** I know that thought was brought up earlier, but I have a hard time believing it of the designers that were involved, especially Misty, I just can't see it. Now I can ALMOST see AD having gone to them and saying something like "I know you can't work with me anymore but I have a BFF that does awesome work, would you like to give her a hand up in the business?" Like I said, I can ALMOST see that happening. People like Misty always come across as very trusting to me, and I can see that scenario happening. I think they were duped, they liked what they saw and took a chance. They got burnt and, unfortunately, probably won't be as quick to help anyone else out in the future.
ES had a call and she got in there based on that. And I'm sure soon after that she caught SO's eye because she was posting ad at DSA. If you're designs are good that's really what matters to get into a store. You can "come out of nowhere" since they are looking for something new.
The same goes for designers. They see your stuff and say "sure, let's collab".
I wish people would stop making this such a conspiracy. Isn't it enough to bring LA and AD down?
Isn't it enough to bring LA and AD down? --------------------------------- I agree. I think the goal was accomplished here. We can speculate as to the why's until the cows come home. When dealing with AD, the why's just never get answered.
Thanks for the background info, I didn't know some of it. I had just never heard of LAT until I saw the collab with Misty. I guess I wasn't paying attention at DSA. I am obviously not a designer or on CT. I wasn't sure how things worked. It just seemed most designers "pay their dues" before getting in the big league shops.
This is just all so lame on Amanda's part. You got busted as Amanda for copying images. Or tracing doodles whatever. SO you recreate yourself as LillyAnne you do well as her no one suspects you but then 2 months into it you decided to start tracing designs again. Didn't you learn your lesson the first time around?
Also Amanda next time (Because I am sure we haven't seen the last of her) be smart about it. Make sure that there are no ties back to yourself. Ie...... Facebook, Moderator on your forum, being on her CT, etc. It is just all to obvious. Also drop the southern charm it really doesn't work for you either.
It just seemed most designers "pay their dues" before getting in the big league shops. --------------------------------- I would have thought so too. That just added to the weirdness of this whole situation
It just seemed most designers "pay their dues" before getting in the big league shops.
May 1, 2009 10:12 AM
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It's true in most cases. But every now and then a designer comes out of nowhere and lands in a big store. And all it takes is an email to a store owner with a link to some samples. They are just that good to start out and usually have design experience elsewhere.
Really when it comes down to it noone really knows each other in this industry. We think that if they collab they must be best buds. I've done enough collabs to know it is usually just a friendly business relationship.
i always see ES as being an entry level store, for the most part, so it's not surprising to see LAT start there, then move on as she gets enough attention, even quickly. many folks start at es and move out pretty quickly it seems.
Well, you guys wonder why a new designer got into such good stores. DUH. She is not a new designer. Amanda is more experienced and the designs were good and that is why she got into such good stores. Store owners do not care how long you have been designing. As long as your designs are good. "LilyAnne" was not a new designer and so that is why she got somewhere really fast. And the designers that collabed with her saw a "new" designer with great stuff and so who would not collab with her?? I know a lot of designers would, so give up on that one. And, I don't see ES as being an entry level store. The store owner probably saw her potential and great designs and didn't hesitate to take her on. Same with SP and SO. I used to think that ES was entry level, but the new store owner has really turned that place around. I was looking through the store the other day and there are some really great designs there. Oh, and no-I am not affiliated with ES. Not a designer, CT member, etc. so give up on that one. That is getting a little old.
I sent an email to LilyAnne when this first started resigning b/c I can’t be involved in anything like this since I run a store. I haven’t heard back from her though. But just to let everyone else know I’m gone as well.
Amanda
I have also sent LilyAnne a mail, that I'm not on the team anymore.
akhn
Hello everyone, I would like to know if anyone has any comment on what is happening surrounding LilyAnne? You've probably all seen the drama at DST...if not you will...LilyAnne, if you're out there please speak to us. I feel being on your team warrents some information because we're wearing your blinkie...we're representing you...that reflects on us. Because of that, I want to know what's going on in your arena.
Thanks for any info ladies.
Becky
Hi everyone,
I need to resign from the CT. I had a lot of fun working with the designs in the short time I was with the team. I wish I had gotten a chance to know everyone. I hope to see you all around the digi-world
I hang out at OScraps, stop in and say hi sometime :).
Dawn
Effective immediately, I am resigning from the CT.
I wish you all the best . . . I hang out at several locations around digi land, and I’m sure I’ll see y’all around.
Cheryl
Yep, what they said. =D
See you guys at SSD, SPD, and A5D!
Bryn
Effective immediately I am no longer able to be a member of the LilyAnne Taylor creative team. Good luck to all!
Ashley Meek
Ladies effective today I'm also resigning. I can't stand this whole drama anymore.
[Oh, and no-I am not affiliated with ES. Not a designer, CT member, etc. so give up on that one. That is getting a little old.]
Or maybe you're just saying that to throw me off!
"Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me..."
"Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me..."
Amanda Dykan, you are nuts! Seriously, stop being a liar and a thief. Get a good therapist and start taking care of your family. Think about your poor kids who has to live with a crazy mom. If you keep using fake identities, making money out of other people's work, lie, steal, you will definitely end up in jail. What you do is wrong and illegal.
Oh my I have been so out of the loop and havent been to the blog or dst in a long time. Can someone tell me where to start reading about the Amanda thing? I cant find where the post even begins. thanks!
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
************ The long quote with the wine, ending inconceivable is a FROM A MOVIE (The Princess Bride)
That was really hilarious BTW _______________________________
LOL, apparently you don't know the movie as well as you think you do! The little bald guy (Fezzig?) says Inconceivable and the Mandy Patankin character says "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means". The previous poster was going along with the joke!
I wish we could get the whole story from Kami at SO. I believe she COULD tell us if she wanted to and here's why. She said that they require a W-9. (that doesn't mean they actually got it, however!!) That would make LA an independent contractor, NOT an employee.
OMG, I saw a post about So You Think You Can Scrap and I have to say what a shady event this turned out to be! I mean they REALLY let Sandra Edwards aka Fruitloop Sally be a contender in it! Come on now...that is just crap! Not to mention you can spot the favortism! I realize now it was just a ploy for A5D and SP to make money! How sad! And yes I won a bonus round but so what! Finding out a WELL KNOWN designer is in it has really made me sick! I have decided to boycott both stores! And when the contest is done I will be sharing with all of my friends!!!
I believe most digital stores consider their designers independent contractors, not employees. All the contracts I have seen have been worded that way.
Blog owner here, I haven't abandoned you! I just got back from a business trip, have no idea what is going on but will catch up later. I will post new space later tonight. I need cliff notes!
Finding out a WELL KNOWN designer is in it has really made me sick! Designers aren't allowed to participate in scrapping contests? That's a load of crap. Some of them aren't that great at scrapping. And why should it matter as long as they don't sell for the stores involved in the contest?
OMG, I saw a post about So You Think You Can Scrap and I have to say what a shady event this turned out to be! I mean they REALLY let Sandra Edwards aka Fruitloop Sally be a contender in it! Come on now...that is just crap! Not to mention you can spot the favortism!
Everyone was assigned numbers, the judges don't know who the contestants are.
Did she win? I didn't think it was over yet.
One more thing, you weren't required to use the kits were you? I thought that was just for the bonus round.
Of course it was ploy to make money. LOL, that is what these challenges and contests are all about. Selling kits for the challenges, and advertising the stores involved. Store gets more money, scrappers have some fun.
Maybe I will...maybe I won't...just my opinion that is seems kind of unfair that they would let someone with way more designing capabilities go up against average everyday women.
Alot of the A5D designers which is one of the stores "sponsoring" the event!
May 1, 2009 5:01 PM
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You're right, it's rigged. They just want to suck up to the CTs that keep getting their stuff for free. How else could they possibly keep them on the team?
You're right, it's rigged. They just want to suck up to the CTs that keep getting their stuff for free. How else could they possibly keep them on the team?
May 1, 2009 5:05 PM
LMAO who pissed in your cornflakes you grumpy old witch!
someone with way more designing capabilities go up against average everyday women.
May 1, 2009 5:04 PM
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You have the ability to learn just as much about PSP and Photoshop. Being a designer doesn't mean that they are a great scrapper. There's more to it and it used different design skills.
A lot of designers became designers from scrapbooking. They love this hobby just as much as the average scrapbooker and should be able to participate in contests and events. I am a designer, and I used to feel bad if I won something, or got a freebie at a chat, but I don't let it bother me anymore. I love this hobby, and deserve to participate anyway I want.
I don't believe that pic of 'LilyAnne' for a second. I have a friend who lives in that area of Texas, she's been complaining about the heat for weeks. Why would LAT be wearing long sleeves and a knitted hat??? Even inside with the a/c on, nobody dresses like that when it's that hot. Maybe AD has a good friend in Quebec.
*********************************** she'd have to be further north than that, maybe Alaska? I'm Canadian and hasn't been that cold in Quebec for a bit.
Yes, let's not forget about all of the other crap, taking place in that stupid contest. Like the same numbers winning every week. When the layout looks like a 5 year old put it together. I sure didnt expect to win anything, but was not expecting all the crap taking place.
Leaving the gallery open last week till Monday morning ...that was bull. They can't even follow their own rules.
So much more to tell, but I have other things to do like shopping...the sales are killer & there are coupons galore. The designers are dying to get rid of some of their merchandise. I am sure sales are down quite a bit from last year.
Just making a point! Seems maybe you know her or like her so sorry if I offended you by making a statement!
May 1, 2009 5:18 PM
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I don't know her. I just don't like it when people enter contests and they whine about designers and ct's winning as if they've done something terrible by playing along. It's bad sportsmanship.
Yes, let's not forget about all of the other crap, taking place in that stupid contest. Like the same numbers winning every week. When the layout looks like a 5 year old put it together. I sure didnt expect to win anything, but was not expecting all the crap taking place.
Leaving the gallery open last week till Monday morning ...that was bull. They can't even follow their own rules.
So much more to tell, but I have other things to do like shopping...the sales are killer & there are coupons galore. The designers are dying to get rid of some of their merchandise. I am sure sales are down quite a bit from last year.
Just love scrap & I am not ashamed to admit it.
***ROFLLLL I couldn't have said it better myself****
I don't know her. I just don't like it when people enter contests and they whine about designers and ct's winning as if they've done something terrible by playing along. It's bad sportsmanship.
May 1, 2009 5:24 PM
You can think what you want...I could care less! You don't know me or anything about me.
Nope that is not my style sweetie!!! I have more class than that...I am not low like you!
May 1, 2009 5:28 PM
Right, you're just on this blog posting smack about fruitloop sally and the contest because you are such an angel? Would you be posting this if you were winning? I don't think so!
Right, you're just on this blog posting smack about fruitloop sally and the contest because you are such an angel? Would you be posting this if you were winning? I don't think so!
May 1, 2009 5:31 PM
Oh, and I am so sure you haven't posted any smack right? I can see your horns from here!
Oh, and I am so sure you haven't posted any smack right? I can see your horns from here!
May 1, 2009 5:32 PM
I NEVER said that I didn't post smack. But you are trying to say that it isn't your style to post smack and yet here you are? That's it's not your style to lose and cry foul because they aren't picking you?
I'm not on here complaining about how I'm losing a contest to a designer who can scrap better than me.
Then how do you plan to boycot the stores involved? and by your definition you are one of the favored that you complained about in your post. So I suspect that you are just lying at this point.
well it does seem a little questionable IMO to have a site CT member in a contest held in a gallery where the requirements are that 75% of the products used in the LO have to be from that store unless that rule is not in effect for the contest
How is that not boycotting when I am not buying there and neither are my good friends?!?!?!? What do you care anyway? Unless you haven't won anything on there. Ohhh, makes perfect sense now.
Lets be honest here. The winning entries did look very "simple" and it was strange to me that a noticeable amount of amazing layouts weren't picked. We all know a amazing page from a so-so page. If there wasn't something going on behind the scenes than what gives?
Also the judges were amazing designers that I know have better taste than that.
Lets be honest here. The winning entries did look very "simple" and it was strange to me that a noticeable amount of amazing layouts weren't picked. We all know a amazing page from a so-so page. If there wasn't something going on behind the scenes than what gives?
Also the judges were amazing designers that I know have better taste than that.
She's leaving digi for good? BS. She has said that before. How many crazy Amanda incidents will it take before people learn not to believe a damn thing she says?un
Now that she has admitted it, can everyone back off of her accusers???? Many of us knew that Amanda was LilyAnne but just couldn't share all the information we had. And there are always some die hard shit stirrers that HAVE to take the side of the accused - even though they don't know what in the hell they are talking about.
Many of us knew that Amanda was LilyAnne but just couldn't share all the information we had. And there are always some die hard shit stirrers that HAVE to take the side of the accused - even though they don't know what in the hell they are talking about.
May 1, 2009 7:25 PM
If people would have come forward as soon as they knew Amanda had done something wrong when she pirated as Amanda, maybe all this LilyAnne crap could have been averted.
There is way too much covering up, ennabling, and excuse making amongst designers. As long as that keeps happening, crooks like Amanda will keep doing this kind of thing over and over.
Why would you not have been able to share the info that you had?Because, anyone who accuses another designer in this fucking community gets their name dragged through the mud. There have been TONS of designers that have been stolen from and anytime they confront the situation, the entire fucking community turns on the designer that is the victim. They are labeled as liars, greedy, bitches, you name it.
It happens EVERYTIME there is an incident like this. So, it isn't about enabling or covering up, it is about keeping my name out of the fucking dung heap that is the digi community. Take a look back through the comments here or over at DST. Look how many people attacked the victims! Melissa Bennett was crucified here and she was the victim. So you fucking vultures should think twice about ripping apart designers that are victims of this kind of shit. There is a hell of a lot more that you DON'T know about a lot of people in the digi community and that is because you are all a bunch of blood thirsty vampires.
So, are all the designers that bought CU stuff from "Lilyann" Requesting their money back/ charging back the purchases? She made a lot of money off of EVERYONE and its all useless...
Im just trying to decide what I am going to do. Anyone else think we are owed our money back since the items we bought were pirated and are useless?
Well since she really only sold about a month I would not pay her if I were the store owner and I would be refunding all her purchases - but that is just me - We can't even use the kits she created since she used the doodle illegally - so it isn't just the cu products but her kits to
Yes!!! Do charge backs through paypal. You have every right to get your money back and I will be doing the same!! She may have admitted she was LAT but she never admitted to stealing things from other designers. I have a feeling this is all we will ever get of this woman. Your all entitled to your money for purchasing things you cant even use now!!!
The same thing they gained by leaking info on this blog while stirring the pot and never coming forward only to run in like a night in shining armor with the official news.
Im just trying to decide what I am going to do. Anyone else think we are owed our money back since the items we bought were pirated and are useless?
May 1, 2009 7:55 PM
*********************************** Absolutely you should run and do the charge back right now. Get your money back. You shouldn't have to pay for stuff you can't use.
For all you that think this blog is a bad idea (and I know you're there even though you don't admit so at DST) what would have happened if this blog wasn't here? Amanda would still be selling happily as Lilyann and none of us would be the wiser. So for all you nay-sayers that think this blog is only for gossip and bitchy women with nothing better to do, think again.
Amanda...please, please, please...either be original or be gone. Photoshop is not a hard program to learn.
The same thing they gained by leaking info on this blog while stirring the pot and never coming forward only to run in like a night in shining armor with the official news.
May 1, 2009 8:02 PM
*********************************** well alrigthy then...i'll just leave it at that.
The same thing they gained by leaking info on this blog while stirring the pot and never coming forward only to run in like a night in shining armor with the official news.
May 1, 2009 8:02 PM
Hey dumbass, it was a DST mod who leaked the initial info (the screenshot)
For all you that think this blog is a bad idea (and I know you're there even though you don't admit so at DST) what would have happened if this blog wasn't here? Amanda would still be selling happily as Lilyann and none of us would be the wiser. So for all you nay-sayers that think this blog is only for gossip and bitchy women with nothing better to do, think again.
Hey dumbass, it was a DST mod who leaked the initial info (the screenshot)
May 1, 2009 8:05 PM *********************************** thank you, wasn't sure why DSA was getting the credit for leaking the info. no i'm not DSA, although i do hang there occasionally.
I think the poster is talking about people from that board and not the board in general. That is what it seems with all the SO girls posting on here and going back and forth with info. That forum is full of SO girls isn't it?
because you are all a bunch of blood thirsty vampires.
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I really loathe these sweeping statements. A lot of us here were just trying to find the truth, because no one else was willing to talk about it. How does that make us blood thirsty vampires and fucking vultures?
I am not Amanda Dykan! All the designers involved here and at digi shop gave little bits of information and there are still not enough answers, You guys always handle this shit behind doors and leave every body in the dark. Posting this and that over here on this blog and never giving out the whole truth for us to see ourselves. You all need to learn how to put up at the beginning and maybe this type of thing would stop happening!
Because, anyone who accuses another designer in this fucking community gets their name dragged through the mud. There have been TONS of designers that have been stolen from and anytime they confront the situation, the entire fucking community turns on the designer that is the victim. They are labeled as liars, greedy, bitches, you name it.
--Lets keep in mind that there are over about 1400 "Anonymous" posts on this site alone. I'm sure if anyone really had information to get out...the would have and could have without any personal slander.
There have been TONS of designers that have been stolen from and anytime they confront the situation, the entire fucking community turns on the designer that is the victim. They are labeled as liars, greedy, bitches, you name it. -------------
Really? The entire fucking community? I'm impressed, that's a lot of people.
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1420 Newer› Newest»Can you guys just imagine Amanda behind her computer saying, "Oh, shit-they found me out again!" when someone figures out another of her "truths" to be a lie?? LOL! It makes me chuckle.
wv=resqu Sorry, no one can rescue you now Amanda/LilyAnne
Well Shannon posts screenies from the DCR and promises to keep the thread open. No Kool Aid! Is this another first for DST?
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Kudos to Shannon.
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I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised by Shannon's most recent posts.
More kudos
Yeah, especially since I have always thought Shannon to be such a self righteous bitch. Surprising.
Amazing what changes you can accomplish with just a little calm rationality...
Can you guys just imagine Amanda behind her computer saying, "Oh, shit-they found me out again!" when someone figures out another of her "truths" to be a lie?? LOL! It makes me chuckle
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I think she's so crazy that she doesn't even try to make up plausible lies. That woman needs serious help
Kami from SO came here and posted. You can find it a few pages back as she posted under her name.
wow little ms. self-righteous opeysmama may finally being some light. i have to say that this time she indeed did surprise me.
LMAO WV=outcher - let's all out her yet again...ah amanda, you just can't quite get that grip on reality can you? it's a shame really, i was liking what i was seeing from lat.
Me too, but I suspect that's because it had so much OPS in it.
Well Shannon posts screenies from the DCR and promises to keep the thread open. No Kool Aid! Is this another first for DST?
April 30, 2009 5:01 PM
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WTG Shannon! It's about time DST started to pour the Kool Aid down the drain!
Kudos to Ruby and the other "speak your mind with no fear" gals :D
Has anyone checked to see if even the personal use items used in her LO's were actually purchased by her? If AD purchased them at one point and there's no proof that LAT purchased them...?
She has products by Blythe Evans, Jofia, Linda Billdale, etc.
http://scraporchard.com/gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=12036
...where did you hear she got fired anyways?
April 30, 2009 5:24 PM
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Direct from the owner of SO, Kami, who posted on page 4, somewhere near the top.
I don't believe that pic of 'LilyAnne' for a second. I have a friend who lives in that area of Texas, she's been complaining about the heat for weeks. Why would LAT be wearing long sleeves and a knitted hat??? Even inside with the a/c on, nobody dresses like that when it's that hot. Maybe AD has a good friend in Quebec.
I live in East Texas and it's been in the 70s for weeks now. 90s the past 2 weeks. I put up my winter clothes at the end of March and haven't looked back.
I do agree with a previous post about the shadow on that piece of paper too, it's a little off.
I was wondering about "LilyAnne's" digital purchases too. If "LilyAnne" is using Flergs shawdows, like Amanda; then she would have a receipt for them, with her name on it.
It is a weird photo. Even putting the warm clothing, the hotel room, and the odd note aside... who lays on a bed all casual like that with a note saying "not amanda-see!" just seems weird to me. I think I would just stand in front of the camera and hold the note. ALthough, I would also plan to hold the note while standing with Amanda.
Of course, even that wouldn't prove anything. Did anyone notice how they both use the hyphen as punctuation a lot? Who does that?
It's looking to me like LA is a real person but Amanda is using her identity as a way to sneak through the backdoor, standing over LA, pulling all the strings. That's just how it's starting to smell to me. LA probably isn't a real designer of any kind and has no interest in doing so and she may have just been a front for Amanda. I know if it was my name being smeared everywhere, I would've came out publicly. Her silence speaks volumes.
Gotta love some good drama. lol
Oh Heather, just stop!!! I can understand why Heather is saying what she's saying, but why is she providing Amanda with more excuses? Sheesh, if wacko AD is going to lie to everyone, at least don't provide the lies for her!
Where is the person who thought maybe Pink Cat gave permission for the stamp copies?
Melissa Rodger's post will be news for you. Not for anyone else tho.
Will Melissa be posting here or at DST?
She already did, in the KoolAid Free thread
I knew there was no way that Melissa would have given permission for her images to be used like that. I've been around this kind of industry for a long time and I don't tend to say stuff just for the heck of saying stuff.
OK just saw her post.
Well there you have it.
So regardless of who LAT is, she did a no-no. Any other newcomer I might have accepted that they didn't know any better. But Amanda was showing her the ropes and introducing her to this community and we know that Amanda knew better.
Either she allowed a good friend to do something really wrong or she herself was designing under the name of LilyAnne.
Either way...shame on her.
Can I go to bed now? It's 2am and I am really tired LOL
Can I go to bed now? It's 2am and I am really tired LOL
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Yeah you go to bed, and I'll go to Tahiti. Gosh I couldn't leave the country with all these unanswered questions.
I hope it doesn't Bora you too much being in paradise. Don't inhale on the plane tho, there might be Mexicans.
wv: factol. This and a wire brush could clear up all kinds of things round here.
Well my boss will be happy. I haven't gotten any work done since this whole debacle started.
But how do we know that was really Melissa? I have screenshots that will prove that Ruby created that user name! Wait, I have it around here somewhere...
Has anything like this ever happened in the digi community before? On this scale?
April 30, 2009 5:10 PM
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Not exactly the same, but certainly on this scale or much bigger.
If they share an IP, they are the same person I would say.
My husband and I share an IP.
If they share an IP, they are the same person I would say.
April 30, 2009 7:27 PM
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On that basis, my daughter, my husband and I are all the same people.
But how do we know that was really Melissa? I have screenshots that will prove that Ruby created that user name! Wait, I have it around here somewhere...
April 30, 2009 7:20 PM
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You have screen shots proving Ruby created that user name? Put up or shut up, unless of course you're just attempting to be funny and I'm missing the humor. Otherwise I don't believe it for a second.
She was being facetious, 7:42...
wv: sacke (hahahahahaha)
So are we saying that Amanda and LilyAnne are sisters then or related and live with one another? Seriously. My point was that it's a little odd to share an IP with someone not in your immediate family. Once again I have to be literal.
You have screen shots proving Ruby created that user name? Put up or shut up, unless of course you're just attempting to be funny and I'm missing the humor. Otherwise I don't believe it for a second.
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Somebody needs a bottle and a nap.
7:42 here and I apologize. The bottle would be extremely nice, depending on what's in it. As for the nap, well that's gonna have to wait. Sorry for the grump, grandson is in the ER waiting for results of a hip x-ray, and I'm sitting here on pins and needles waiting to hear what's going on.
But how do we know that was really Melissa? I have screenshots that will prove that Ruby created that user name! Wait, I have it around here somewhere...
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You can always contact Melissa and ask her. That's the preferred method. Go straight to the source:)
What exactly is an IP address? How did I get one? Why do people have multiple addresses? And how can I know how many I have?
Oh and....Amanda has a dynamic IP (changes frequently)....what does this mean. How do you get a dynamic IP address?
7:42 has been cranky ALL DAY LONG.
Your internet privileges have been revoked, 8:08. >.<
$20 says Shannon or Ripal own this blog- LOL
Your internet privileges have been revoked, 8:08. >.<
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I know I should know these things. I went to twitter today and thought I landed on another planet. I think you hit a certain age and all of a sudden technology seems so hard to keep up with.
For what ever reason I never really understood the term when I heard it and didn't have any reason to check into it. I suppose I could google "ip addresses" and find out more than I need to know.
7:42 has been cranky ALL DAY LONG.
April 30, 2009 8:13 PM
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I have? Really, damn hadn't realized. Guess I need to apologize yet again, but I'm just not gonna do it. Damn my insensitivity.
$20 says Shannon or Ripal own this blog- LOL
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Well that could be an interesting conversation:)
OH hey you used a hyphen and we know what that means!! LOL
Oh and....Amanda has a dynamic IP (changes frequently)....what does this mean. How do you get a dynamic IP address?
April 30, 2009 8:12 PM
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Do you seriously not know this? It is a numeric connection id. It depends on your ISP and what kind of internet account you have. Some have a static ip, which means your ip is always the same, some have dynamic which means each time you log on, your ISP allocates you a different IP.
You can find out your ip address by going to http://www.whatsmyip.org/
If it changes every time you log on you have a dynamic IP, if it is always the same, you have a static ip.
I know I should know these things. I went to twitter today and thought I landed on another planet. I think you hit a certain age and all of a sudden technology seems so hard to keep up with.
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What age is that? I haven't hit it yet and neither have my parents. I think it's a personal thing, more than an age thing.
IP is short of Internet Provider, so an IP address is an Internet Provider Address. It's generally something unique to you, like a street address. Your Internet Provider assigns you an 'address' when you sign up, so they can track you usage, amongst other things. I hope that helps.
So if someone has two IP addresses are they logging in on two different computers or two different internet providers?
OH hey you used a hyphen and we know what that means!! LOL
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yes........yes we do.
Technically, IP stands for Internet Protocol. Anyway, if you're in the same house on two networked computers on the same internet connection, you'll have the same IP address.
So if someone has two IP addresses are they logging in on two different computers or two different internet providers?
April 30, 2009 8:22 PM
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That depends on if you have a dynamic or static ip! If you have dynamic ip, it changes every time you log on to the internet. Not everyone has a static ip.
If you have a dynamic ip, you can connect to the internet on the same computer twice on the same day and have a different ip each time.
so fill someone in on the hyphen
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Earlier someone commented that both AD and LAT used hyphens and that it was unusual. They might have been joking, I don't know.
So the fact that Amanda has a dynamic IP (changes frequently). LilyAnne has two IP addresses. One of which is shared with no one. The other of which is shared with Amanda. Could be an indication that they are two separate people.
So the fact that Amanda has a dynamic IP (changes frequently). LilyAnne has two IP addresses. One of which is shared with no one. The other of which is shared with Amanda. Could be an indication that they are two separate people.
April 30, 2009 8:40 PM
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No it doesn't really prove anything.
If Amanda is LilyAnne, then the fact she has a dynamic ip means her ip address will change as will 'LilyAnn's' and the fact they shared one ip addy, means 'they' were both logged in at one point under that ip. If they are not the same person, it just proves that LilyAnn used Amanda's internet connection or vice versa.
No it doesn't really prove anything.
If Amanda is LilyAnne, then the fact she has a dynamic ip means her ip address will change as will 'LilyAnn's' and the fact they shared one ip addy, means 'they' were both logged in at one point under that ip. If they are not the same person, it just proves that LilyAnn used Amanda's internet connection or vice versa.
April 30, 2009 8:44 PM
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I should say it doesn't prove anything except there is a connection between the two, either they have shared an internet connection, or they are the same person.
I guess I've been under a rock... I didn't know there was another smack block until tonight & saw the Lily thread. I don't shop around much so I didn't know who Lily was but had heard of Amanda before.
What did she do to get banned from DST in the first place?
I don't think at this point Amanda will admit to anything. That's too bad. It would be interesting to have a girl to girl honest chat with her. I wonder what makes her tick.
I'm exhausted. Go back a thousand posts and it will all be clear as mud to you:)
Actually we don't know why she was banned. Shannon said it was for something unrelated.
Could we please get a new blog entry? The comments are loading terribly slow and have timed out on me a few times.
I just load page 7 of the comments and it works fine, but a new page would be nice.
what's up with being able to delete posts here?
I don't know but I emailed the blog owner. This is weird!
When I joined my store I had to provide a copy of my passport and a W-9. I also had to sign and return a contract which they postal mailed to me (hence confirming my address). Seems other stores don't do the same, which is a shame and a surprise given the recent history of this whole industry.
April 29, 2009 2:35 PM
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This is effin nuts!! Why should the store owner be allowed to know the true identity of the designers (real name, real adress) while the designers wouldn't have access to these infos about the store owner? And don't tell me "if you have nothing to hide, why are you complaining?" I have nothing to hide but you never know if the store owner is going to double cross you either. It's not because they run stores that they are better than the designers they hire.
Agreed! There's a couple store owners that I'm glad they didn't have more than my fake name and email address. They ended up being bad news!
Well why in the world would you entrust your designs to a store-owner you don't trust??? There are plenty of decent store-owners around. Start asking other designers for references on the store-owners you are interested in selling for. I would never apply at a store without knowing if the owner was reputable!
Well why in the world would you entrust your designs to a store-owner you don't trust???
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Trusting my designs is one thing, providing a copy of my passport is a whole different matter.
Well why in the world would you entrust your designs to a store-owner you don't trust???
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Trusting my designs is one thing, providing a copy of my passport is a whole different matter.
May 1, 2009 1:09 AM
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Exactly!
So, I see Shabby Pickle finally kicked out LilyAnne/Amanda from their store!
Yeah, SP kicked her out yesterday some time.
"Why should the store owner be allowed to know the true identity of the designers (real name, real adress) while the designers wouldn't have access to these infos about the store owner?"
Well to be fair, I do have all that information about the store and it's owner because it's an LLC company and all that stuff is on public record (and yes, I did check before I signed with them).
In essence, the store is a proper business and not an amateur who don't know what they're doing. I wouldn't sign with any store who didn't take the business seriously.
Is there another blog like this somewhere? Link please!
Is there another blog like this somewhere? Link please!
May 1, 2009 5:08 AM
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Why? There was a paper smack one which somehow or other over the last few others has been subscriber only.
Anyone want to take bets as to why AD was banned from DST? My first thought was maybe she harassed someone via PM or something and they reported her. Thoughts?
No thoughts on that one! AD is so far out there I wouldn't even know where to start!
Maybe she tried to shoot Shannon.
And now Barb Speck weighs in on the conversation to condemn smack blogs.
Well why in the world would you entrust your designs to a store-owner you don't trust??? There are plenty of decent store-owners around.
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Sometimes you don't know until it's too late. It's happen to a number of designers. They thought it was ok and then the owner disappears without paying designers. I think it's ridiculous to say "you should have known" because they always appear to be decent at first.
Isn't it odd/unusual that LAT just came out of nowhere, no one had heard of her and right off the bat starts selling at SP and SO and gets collab gigs with big name designers like Misty C.? Didn't AD have some collabs at SDD previously? I am not accusing anyone, but is it possible any of the stores/designers involved with her knew it was AD and went along with the charade cause they liked her designs & thought they would sell?
Isn't it odd/unusual that LAT just came out of nowhere, no one had heard of her and right off the bat starts selling at SP and SO and gets collab gigs with big name designers like Misty C.? Didn't AD have some collabs at SDD previously? I am not accusing anyone, but is it possible any of the stores/designers involved with her knew it was AD and went along with the charade cause they liked her designs & thought they would sell?
May 1, 2009 9:30 AM
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I know that thought was brought up earlier, but I have a hard time believing it of the designers that were involved, especially Misty, I just can't see it. Now I can ALMOST see AD having gone to them and saying something like "I know you can't work with me anymore but I have a BFF that does awesome work, would you like to give her a hand up in the business?" Like I said, I can ALMOST see that happening. People like Misty always come across as very trusting to me, and I can see that scenario happening. I think they were duped, they liked what they saw and took a chance. They got burnt and, unfortunately, probably won't be as quick to help anyone else out in the future.
ES had a call and she got in there based on that. And I'm sure soon after that she caught SO's eye because she was posting ad at DSA. If you're designs are good that's really what matters to get into a store. You can "come out of nowhere" since they are looking for something new.
The same goes for designers. They see your stuff and say "sure, let's collab".
I wish people would stop making this such a conspiracy. Isn't it enough to bring LA and AD down?
Isn't it enough to bring LA and AD down?
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I agree. I think the goal was accomplished here. We can speculate as to the why's until the cows come home. When dealing with AD, the why's just never get answered.
Thanks for the background info, I didn't know some of it. I had just never heard of LAT until I saw the collab with Misty. I guess I wasn't paying attention at DSA. I am obviously not a designer or on CT. I wasn't sure how things worked. It just seemed most designers "pay their dues" before getting in the big league shops.
This is just all so lame on Amanda's part. You got busted as Amanda for copying images. Or tracing doodles whatever. SO you recreate yourself as LillyAnne you do well as her no one suspects you but then 2 months into it you decided to start tracing designs again. Didn't you learn your lesson the first time around?
Also Amanda next time (Because I am sure we haven't seen the last of her) be smart about it. Make sure that there are no ties back to yourself. Ie...... Facebook, Moderator on your forum, being on her CT, etc. It is just all to obvious. Also drop the southern charm it really doesn't work for you either.
It just seemed most designers "pay their dues" before getting in the big league shops.
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I would have thought so too. That just added to the weirdness of this whole situation
It just seemed most designers "pay their dues" before getting in the big league shops.
May 1, 2009 10:12 AM
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It's true in most cases. But every now and then a designer comes out of nowhere and lands in a big store. And all it takes is an email to a store owner with a link to some samples. They are just that good to start out and usually have design experience elsewhere.
Really when it comes down to it noone really knows each other in this industry. We think that if they collab they must be best buds. I've done enough collabs to know it is usually just a friendly business relationship.
i always see ES as being an entry level store, for the most part, so it's not surprising to see LAT start there, then move on as she gets enough attention, even quickly. many folks start at es and move out pretty quickly it seems.
Barb Speck can suck my left ass cheek while Opeysmama finishes sucking my right one.
WV: phang - LOL!
(oooohhhh, did she really use a hyphen?)
LilyAnne was just viewing the DST thread. No comment Lily??? Not even to your CT whom you royally screwed over. What a B!@#H!!!
"Barb Speck can suck my left ass cheek while Opeysmama finishes sucking my right one."
Gotta love white trash.
Well, you guys wonder why a new designer got into such good stores. DUH. She is not a new designer. Amanda is more experienced and the designs were good and that is why she got into such good stores. Store owners do not care how long you have been designing. As long as your designs are good. "LilyAnne" was not a new designer and so that is why she got somewhere really fast. And the designers that collabed with her saw a "new" designer with great stuff and so who would not collab with her?? I know a lot of designers would, so give up on that one.
And, I don't see ES as being an entry level store. The store owner probably saw her potential and great designs and didn't hesitate to take her on. Same with SP and SO. I used to think that ES was entry level, but the new store owner has really turned that place around. I was looking through the store the other day and there are some really great designs there. Oh, and no-I am not affiliated with ES. Not a designer, CT member, etc. so give up on that one. That is getting a little old.
Emails to Lilyanne from her CT-
I sent an email to LilyAnne when this first started resigning b/c I can’t be involved in anything like this since I run a store. I haven’t heard back from her though. But just to let everyone else know I’m gone as well.
Amanda
I have also sent LilyAnne a mail, that I'm not on the team anymore.
akhn
Hello everyone, I would like to know if anyone has any comment on what is happening surrounding LilyAnne? You've probably all seen the drama at DST...if not you will...LilyAnne, if you're out there please speak to us. I feel being on your team warrents some information because we're wearing your blinkie...we're representing you...that reflects on us. Because of that, I want to know what's going on in your arena.
Thanks for any info ladies.
Becky
Hi everyone,
I need to resign from the CT. I had a lot of fun working with the designs in the short time I was with the team. I wish I had gotten a chance to know everyone. I hope to see you all around the digi-world
I hang out at OScraps, stop in and say hi sometime :).
Dawn
Effective immediately, I am resigning from the CT.
I wish you all the best . . . I hang out at several locations around digi land, and I’m sure I’ll see y’all around.
Cheryl
Yep, what they said. =D
See you guys at SSD, SPD, and A5D!
Bryn
Effective immediately I am no longer able to be a member of the LilyAnne Taylor creative team. Good luck to all!
Ashley Meek
Ladies effective today I'm also resigning. I can't stand this whole drama anymore.
Lily I'm still waiting for my payment. :(
Tracy
[Oh, and no-I am not affiliated with ES. Not a designer, CT member, etc. so give up on that one. That is getting a little old.]
Or maybe you're just saying that to throw me off!
"Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me..."
ROTFL
LOL!! "You'd like to think that, wouldn't you???"
"Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me..."
INCONCEIVABLE!
May 1, 2009 2:16 PM
INCONCEIVABLE!
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Amanda is sure to try something again. She's just that nervy.
Amanda Dykan, you are nuts! Seriously, stop being a liar and a thief. Get a good therapist and start taking care of your family. Think about your poor kids who has to live with a crazy mom.
If you keep using fake identities, making money out of other people's work, lie, steal, you will definitely end up in jail. What you do is wrong and illegal.
Oh my I have been so out of the loop and havent been to the blog or dst in a long time. Can someone tell me where to start reading about the Amanda thing? I cant find where the post even begins. thanks!
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=188222
Thread here starts about halfway down page 2 of the comments (this topic). Link above is the thread at DST.
INCONCEIVABLE!
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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The long quote with the wine, ending inconceivable is a FROM A MOVIE (The Princess Bride)
That was really hilarious BTW
INCONCEIVABLE!
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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The long quote with the wine, ending inconceivable is a FROM A MOVIE (The Princess Bride)
That was really hilarious BTW
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LOL, apparently you don't know the movie as well as you think you do! The little bald guy (Fezzig?) says Inconceivable and the Mandy Patankin character says "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means". The previous poster was going along with the joke!
I wish we could get the whole story from Kami at SO. I believe she COULD tell us if she wanted to and here's why. She said that they require a W-9. (that doesn't mean they actually got it, however!!) That would make LA an independent contractor, NOT an employee.
OMG, I saw a post about So You Think You Can Scrap and I have to say what a shady event this turned out to be! I mean they REALLY let Sandra Edwards aka Fruitloop Sally be a contender in it! Come on now...that is just crap! Not to mention you can spot the favortism! I realize now it was just a ploy for A5D and SP to make money! How sad! And yes I won a bonus round but so what! Finding out a WELL KNOWN designer is in it has really made me sick! I have decided to boycott both stores! And when the contest is done I will be sharing with all of my friends!!!
I believe most digital stores consider their designers independent contractors, not employees. All the contracts I have seen have been worded that way.
Blog owner here, I haven't abandoned you! I just got back from a business trip, have no idea what is going on but will catch up later. I will post new space later tonight. I need cliff notes!
Kami doesn't need to share the story - Amanda already did it.
WELL KNOWN designer
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Who is Fruitloop Sally? Where does she sell?
Finding out a WELL KNOWN designer is in it has really made me sick! Designers aren't allowed to participate in scrapping contests? That's a load of crap. Some of them aren't that great at scrapping. And why should it matter as long as they don't sell for the stores involved in the contest?
And why should it matter as long as they don't sell for the stores involved in the contest?
It does matter IMO when they CT for alot of the designers! And she sells at Pickleberrypop and Inspiration Lane
OMG, I saw a post about So You Think You Can Scrap and I have to say what a shady event this turned out to be! I mean they REALLY let Sandra Edwards aka Fruitloop Sally be a contender in it! Come on now...that is just crap! Not to mention you can spot the favortism!
Everyone was assigned numbers, the judges don't know who the contestants are.
Did she win? I didn't think it was over yet.
One more thing, you weren't required to use the kits were you? I thought that was just for the bonus round.
It does matter IMO when they CT for alot of the designers! And she sells at Pickleberrypop and Inspiration Lane
May 1, 2009 4:45 PM
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Maybe scrap contests aren't for you? Losing is hard, isn't it?
PBP & IL make her well known?
um ok...
Maybe scrap contests aren't for you? Losing is hard, isn't it?
May 1, 2009 4:57 PM
Awww, sweetie I win more than I lose, but thanks for caring!
It does matter IMO when they CT for alot of the designers!
Who does she CT for?
Alot of the A5D designers which is one of the stores "sponsoring" the event!
Awww, sweetie I win more than I lose, but thanks for caring!
Then why are you complaining about someone else winning because they are a designer?
You just didn't win this one...
(sounds like they haven't won yet anyway?)
Of course it was ploy to make money. LOL, that is what these challenges and contests are all about. Selling kits for the challenges, and advertising the stores involved. Store gets more money, scrappers have some fun.
Maybe I will...maybe I won't...just my opinion that is seems kind of unfair that they would let someone with way more designing capabilities go up against average everyday women.
Alot of the A5D designers which is one of the stores "sponsoring" the event!
May 1, 2009 5:01 PM
^^^
You're right, it's rigged. They just want to suck up to the CTs that keep getting their stuff for free. How else could they possibly keep them on the team?
designing does not = scrapping
A lot of great designers suck at scrapbooking.
You're right, it's rigged. They just want to suck up to the CTs that keep getting their stuff for free. How else could they possibly keep them on the team?
May 1, 2009 5:05 PM
LMAO who pissed in your cornflakes you grumpy old witch!
someone with way more designing capabilities go up against average everyday women.
May 1, 2009 5:04 PM
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You have the ability to learn just as much about PSP and Photoshop. Being a designer doesn't mean that they are a great scrapper. There's more to it and it used different design skills.
A lot of designers became designers from scrapbooking. They love this hobby just as much as the average scrapbooker and should be able to participate in contests and events. I am a designer, and I used to feel bad if I won something, or got a freebie at a chat, but I don't let it bother me anymore. I love this hobby, and deserve to participate anyway I want.
LMAO who pissed in your cornflakes you grumpy old witch!
May 1, 2009 5:08 PM
Just pointing out how stupid the idea is that they would choose CT to win over other scrappers. What purpose does that serve?
Maybe they are good scrappers and they like how they scrap?
What did you read about her? I thought everyone had a # and their identities were secret.
They could be kept secret but she used photos of herself that show her so hmmmm, what do you think???
I don't believe that pic of 'LilyAnne' for a second. I have a friend who lives in that area of Texas, she's been complaining about the heat for weeks. Why would LAT be wearing long sleeves and a knitted hat??? Even inside with the a/c on, nobody dresses like that when it's that hot. Maybe AD has a good friend in Quebec.
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she'd have to be further north than that, maybe Alaska? I'm Canadian and hasn't been that cold in Quebec for a bit.
They could be kept secret but she used photos of herself that show her so hmmmm, what do you think???
May 1, 2009 5:14 PM
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Ooops. Too bad! She's gonna win now.
Just making a point! Seems maybe you know her or like her so sorry if I offended you by making a statement!
Yes, let's not forget about all of the other crap, taking place in that stupid contest. Like the same numbers winning every week. When the layout looks like a 5 year old put it together. I sure didnt expect to win anything, but was not expecting all the crap taking place.
Leaving the gallery open last week till Monday morning ...that was bull. They can't even follow their own rules.
So much more to tell, but I have other things to do like shopping...the sales are killer & there are coupons galore. The designers are dying to get rid of some of their merchandise. I am sure sales are down quite a bit from last year.
Just love scrap & I am not ashamed to admit it.
Just making a point! Seems maybe you know her or like her so sorry if I offended you by making a statement!
May 1, 2009 5:18 PM
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I don't know her. I just don't like it when people enter contests and they whine about designers and ct's winning as if they've done something terrible by playing along. It's bad sportsmanship.
Yes, let's not forget about all of the other crap, taking place in that stupid contest. Like the same numbers winning every week. When the layout looks like a 5 year old put it together. I sure didnt expect to win anything, but was not expecting all the crap taking place.
Leaving the gallery open last week till Monday morning ...that was bull. They can't even follow their own rules.
So much more to tell, but I have other things to do like shopping...the sales are killer & there are coupons galore. The designers are dying to get rid of some of their merchandise. I am sure sales are down quite a bit from last year.
Just love scrap & I am not ashamed to admit it.
***ROFLLLL I couldn't have said it better myself****
I don't know her. I just don't like it when people enter contests and they whine about designers and ct's winning as if they've done something terrible by playing along. It's bad sportsmanship.
May 1, 2009 5:24 PM
You can think what you want...I could care less! You don't know me or anything about me.
You can think what you want...I could care less! You don't know me or anything about me.
May 1, 2009 5:26 PM
I know you don't like to lose and will cry foul if you don't win.
Nope that is not my style sweetie!!! I have more class than that...I am not low like you!
Nope that is not my style sweetie!!! I have more class than that...I am not low like you!
May 1, 2009 5:28 PM
Right, you're just on this blog posting smack about fruitloop sally and the contest because you are such an angel? Would you be posting this if you were winning? I don't think so!
Right, you're just on this blog posting smack about fruitloop sally and the contest because you are such an angel? Would you be posting this if you were winning? I don't think so!
May 1, 2009 5:31 PM
Oh, and I am so sure you haven't posted any smack right? I can see your horns from here!
Oh, and I am so sure you haven't posted any smack right? I can see your horns from here!
May 1, 2009 5:32 PM
I NEVER said that I didn't post smack. But you are trying to say that it isn't your style to post smack and yet here you are? That's it's not your style to lose and cry foul because they aren't picking you?
I'm not on here complaining about how I'm losing a contest to a designer who can scrap better than me.
I never said I was losing! ;)
Then how do you plan to boycot the stores involved? and by your definition you are one of the favored that you complained about in your post. So I suspect that you are just lying at this point.
well it does seem a little questionable IMO to have a site CT member in a contest held in a gallery where the requirements are that 75% of the products used in the LO have to be from that store unless that rule is not in effect for the contest
I will gift what I get if I get anything else! So now I am a liar.You can kiss my a**! Did you get that?
Actually, the site ct members were NOT eligible but personal ct members were. If she is on a site ct, she will be disqualified, right?
I will gift what I get if I get anything else! So now I am a liar.You can kiss my a**! Did you get that?
May 1, 2009 5:42 PM
Then you aren't boycotting. Have fun with your fake win.
lol at froot loop sally being a big name designer.
How is that not boycotting when I am not buying there and neither are my good friends?!?!?!? What do you care anyway? Unless you haven't won anything on there. Ohhh, makes perfect sense now.
Lets be honest here. The winning entries did look very "simple" and it was strange to me that a noticeable amount of amazing layouts weren't picked. We all know a amazing page from a so-so page. If there wasn't something going on behind the scenes than what gives?
Also the judges were amazing designers that I know have better taste than that.
Lets be honest here. The winning entries did look very "simple" and it was strange to me that a noticeable amount of amazing layouts weren't picked. We all know a amazing page from a so-so page. If there wasn't something going on behind the scenes than what gives?
Also the judges were amazing designers that I know have better taste than that.
May 1, 2009 5:56 PM
VERY WELL PUT!!!!!!
Has anyone hear anything about TheresK and her CU stuff? She has been pulled from ES in the last couple days.
Oh, I know about Theres! She just decided to leave ES.
Wow! Amanda Dykan confesses?
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18196#post18196
Can't say I'm surprised.
[Can't say I'm surprised.]
I'm not surprised that it's true, just that she finally admitted it.
She's leaving digi for good? BS. She has said that before. How many crazy Amanda incidents will it take before people learn not to believe a damn thing she says?un
Her overlays are blurry. I will never purchase from her again.
Has anyone hear anything about TheresK and her CU stuff? She has been pulled from ES in the last couple days.May 1, 2009 6:16 PM
Now that she has admitted it, can everyone back off of her accusers???? Many of us knew that Amanda was LilyAnne but just couldn't share all the information we had. And there are always some die hard shit stirrers that HAVE to take the side of the accused - even though they don't know what in the hell they are talking about.
Amanda is one crazy bitch. That is all.
Many of us knew that Amanda was LilyAnne but just couldn't share all the information we had. And there are always some die hard shit stirrers that HAVE to take the side of the accused - even though they don't know what in the hell they are talking about.
May 1, 2009 7:25 PM
If people would have come forward as soon as they knew Amanda had done something wrong when she pirated as Amanda, maybe all this LilyAnne crap could have been averted.
There is way too much covering up, ennabling, and excuse making amongst designers. As long as that keeps happening, crooks like Amanda will keep doing this kind of thing over and over.
Many of us knew that Amanda was LilyAnne but just couldn't share all the information we had.
May 1, 2009 7:25 PM
Why would you not have been able to share the info that you had?
well if this forum can be believed amanda confessed
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18196#post18196
well if this forum can be believed amanda confessed
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18196#post18196
Hasn't TheresK gone to SBB?
Why would you not have been able to share the info that you had?Because, anyone who accuses another designer in this fucking community gets their name dragged through the mud. There have been TONS of designers that have been stolen from and anytime they confront the situation, the entire fucking community turns on the designer that is the victim. They are labeled as liars, greedy, bitches, you name it.
It happens EVERYTIME there is an incident like this. So, it isn't about enabling or covering up, it is about keeping my name out of the fucking dung heap that is the digi community. Take a look back through the comments here or over at DST. Look how many people attacked the victims! Melissa Bennett was crucified here and she was the victim. So you fucking vultures should think twice about ripping apart designers that are victims of this kind of shit. There is a hell of a lot more that you DON'T know about a lot of people in the digi community and that is because you are all a bunch of blood thirsty vampires.
OMG!
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1942
I agree. If those who knew just came forward and said so, maybe all these pages of speculation could've been thwarted.
Not that it wasn't fun to read. lol
word verification: loged=I am logged off of this whole fiasco.
Try reading earlier 7:47 that is old news byt like at least 10 minutes hahahaha
So, are all the designers that bought CU stuff from "Lilyann" Requesting their money back/ charging back the purchases? She made a lot of money off of EVERYONE and its all useless...
Im just trying to decide what I am going to do. Anyone else think we are owed our money back since the items we bought were pirated and are useless?
Well since she really only sold about a month I would not pay her if I were the store owner and I would be refunding all her purchases - but that is just me - We can't even use the kits she created since she used the doodle illegally - so it isn't just the cu products but her kits to
Yes!!! Do charge backs through paypal. You have every right to get your money back and I will be doing the same!! She may have admitted she was LAT but she never admitted to stealing things from other designers. I have a feeling this is all we will ever get of this woman. Your all entitled to your money for purchasing things you cant even use now!!!
well if this forum can be believed amanda confessed
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18196#post18196
May 1, 2009 7:42 PM
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Why would we not be able to believe "this forum?" What would they have to gain by making it up?
The same thing they gained by leaking info on this blog while stirring the pot and never coming forward only to run in like a night in shining armor with the official news.
May 1, 2009 7:44 PM
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That is seriously a pathetic excuse for all the cover ups.
The only Melissa bashing that was done here was done by Amanda herself and/or other designers.
You're just a chicken shit who waited for someone else to be brave enough to come forward. You suck
Im just trying to decide what I am going to do. Anyone else think we are owed our money back since the items we bought were pirated and are useless?
May 1, 2009 7:55 PM
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Absolutely you should run and do the charge back right now. Get your money back. You shouldn't have to pay for stuff you can't use.
For all you that think this blog is a bad idea (and I know you're there even though you don't admit so at DST) what would have happened if this blog wasn't here? Amanda would still be selling happily as Lilyann and none of us would be the wiser. So for all you nay-sayers that think this blog is only for gossip and bitchy women with nothing better to do, think again.
Amanda...please, please, please...either be original or be gone. Photoshop is not a hard program to learn.
wv=cathoryn
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The same thing they gained by leaking info on this blog while stirring the pot and never coming forward only to run in like a night in shining armor with the official news.
May 1, 2009 8:02 PM
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well alrigthy then...i'll just leave it at that.
The same thing they gained by leaking info on this blog while stirring the pot and never coming forward only to run in like a night in shining armor with the official news.
May 1, 2009 8:02 PM
Hey dumbass, it was a DST mod who leaked the initial info (the screenshot)
For all you that think this blog is a bad idea (and I know you're there even though you don't admit so at DST) what would have happened if this blog wasn't here? Amanda would still be selling happily as Lilyann and none of us would be the wiser. So for all you nay-sayers that think this blog is only for gossip and bitchy women with nothing better to do, think again.
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Amen!
who said anything about initial info?
if you need me to say is s l o w e r i can. leeeeaaakkkiiinngg innnfffooo.
who is the dumb ass now?
Hey dumbass, it was a DST mod who leaked the initial info (the screenshot)
May 1, 2009 8:05 PM
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thank you, wasn't sure why DSA was getting the credit for leaking the info. no i'm not DSA, although i do hang there occasionally.
SO got rid of her stuff much quicker than SP. If any store was playing games, it was the pickle
who is the dumb ass now?
May 1, 2009 8:06 PM
It's still you.
I think the poster is talking about people from that board and not the board in general. That is what it seems with all the SO girls posting on here and going back and forth with info. That forum is full of SO girls isn't it?
It would appear that AD has left Facebook as well. She was still there yesterday.
who said anything about initial info?
if you need me to say is s l o w e r i can. leeeeaaakkkiiinngg innnfffooo.
who is the dumb ass now?
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Amanda seriously you have been figured out just get off it already
because you are all a bunch of blood thirsty vampires.
May 1, 2009 7:44 PM
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I really loathe these sweeping statements. A lot of us here were just trying to find the truth, because no one else was willing to talk about it. How does that make us blood thirsty vampires and fucking vultures?
I am not Amanda Dykan! All the designers involved here and at digi shop gave little bits of information and there are still not enough answers, You guys always handle this shit behind doors and leave every body in the dark. Posting this and that over here on this blog and never giving out the whole truth for us to see ourselves. You all need to learn how to put up at the beginning and maybe this type of thing would stop happening!
Because, anyone who accuses another designer in this fucking community gets their name dragged through the mud. There have been TONS of designers that have been stolen from and anytime they confront the situation, the entire fucking community turns on the designer that is the victim. They are labeled as liars, greedy, bitches, you name it.
--Lets keep in mind that there are over about 1400 "Anonymous" posts on this site alone. I'm sure if anyone really had information to get out...the would have and could have without any personal slander.
You all need to learn how to put up at the beginning and maybe this type of thing would stop happening!
May 1, 2009 8:18 PM
True. This had been said before.
There have been TONS of designers that have been stolen from and anytime they confront the situation, the entire fucking community turns on the designer that is the victim. They are labeled as liars, greedy, bitches, you name it.
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Really? The entire fucking community? I'm impressed, that's a lot of people.
We'd still have Lilyanne/Amanda, Ashley v. 1.0, Ashley v. 2.0 (Shantilly Faire). What else?
I miss Scrappy Sheep's blog- the original!
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