Here you go, this is for the poster that asked nicely. For the contributor that would like to start a new blog...feel free.
I don't generally start a new post in the middle of a good topic, since it usually kills the conversation. But really, there is never anything new to discuss anyway.
I do appreciate the self nominated Digi Task Force. I am sure they will bring to light thousands of cases of digital thievery and deceit in the wildly corrupt nation of digital scrapbooking.
Sunday, April 11, 2010
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If things are dead at DST, where do people hand out to stay on top of all things digital?
I have noticed very little movement in the forums at DST.
Flergs doesn't have Disney images in her kits but her CT made layouts using such images and they are used in the promotion of her kit in her store.
Tell me, if I decided to sell something, let's say bubble gum, would it be okay for me to use Disney images on my packaging? The images wouldn't be on the gum products themselves, just on the packaging for them. If it's not okay for me to do such a thing, how is it any different?
You know, I think it is horrible what happened with the pirating issue and all with this girl that just got called out on it but really people quit slobbing the knob of ssd already. That store has some really shitty designs in it. They have only one good designer in there and the rest is just crap. I love how Robin states we strive to make something unique with every design we do.the shit looks like everyone elses to me. Try to get some decent shit in there. Quit trying to mass produce everything just to get something out there.
Tell me, if I decided to sell something, let's say bubble gum, would it be okay for me to use Disney images on my packaging? The images wouldn't be on the gum products themselves, just on the packaging for them. If it's not okay for me to do such a thing, how is it any different?
Oh because its Flergs, dont you realize that she can do anything and get away with it? Because she is the allmighty god of SB
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You could contact Maya and tell her you think it isn't appropriate. It's clear it bothers you, so why not take action?
for me to use Disney images on my packaging?
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Your gum example doesn't work. She isn't using it on the packaging of the kit.
So if my kid has on a wall-e tshirt and I use that kit, then she can't use my layout as an example? Or for that matter any designer with any kit?
I just looked at the offending layout. It isn't going to sell the kit because it's not very good.
studiotangie has a layout with the Lost Boys image on it.
That store has some really shitty designs in it. They have only one good designer in there and the rest is just crap. I love how Robin states we strive to make something unique with every design we do.the shit looks like everyone elses to me. Try to get some decent shit in there. Quit trying to mass produce everything just to get something out there.
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Thank you for your opinion. I want to make sure that you understand that it is an opinion. I don't agree with it. I like their designs and think many of them are unique. Most designers copy SSD, not the other way around.
studiotangie has a layout with the Lost Boys image on it.
April 11, 2010 5:16 PM
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I don't see what the big deal is. It's just a creative example.
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some people are just cranky and want to bitch.
There's more important issues out there. Like people actually using
Disney items in their kits or stealing from other designers.
or people stealing pics off a blog and using them for CT layouts...
Thank you for starting a new thread. :)
It was hard to get to the end of the old one, as blogger.com has been gimpy lately.
Random question about PDF files:
Is it possible to save only 2 pages out of a longer pdf file? (without being the author of the pdf file). If so, how?
ie. I have some long newsletters that only have a couple pages that I want to save (tutorial), but I want to get rid of the rest to save storage space. I realize I could print those 2 pages, but I'd prefer to keep them on my cmpt.
Thanks in advance. :)
Thank you for your opinion. I want to make sure that you understand that it is an opinion. I don't agree with it. I like their designs and think many of them are unique. Most designers copy SSD, not the other way around.
lol yet another SB from SSD coming in to say how fab SSD is. Also uh believe me, They have copied me more then once in designs. So no its not the other way around. I would not copy that crap if you paid me to do it. Also before you say I am just a pissed off designer because I applied and did not get in well think again, they had asked me to join and I turned them down. ")
have any well known established digi designers (ie shabby princess, jen wilson, etc) expressed their interest in joining the new digi bbb group?
Yes, I buy from SSD. And I posted my opinion just as you did your opinion. You made yours sound like fact. It is my opinion that they produce good products.
If they copy you, how about you post a link because I might like your stuff?
But thus far I haven't found too many other sites that suit my taste.
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I agree. I'll find something that I think looks like SSD but it's lacking something and my layout doesn't flow together the same.
But I would love to know which designers the SSD designer are "copying". Sounds like someone just blowing some smoke to prove they are right.
If ms-I-turned-ssd down was telling the truth, she wouldn't have to be on this blog bragging about it and talking smack about her competition.
Also before you say I am just a pissed off designer because I applied and did not get in well think again, they had asked me to join and I turned them down. ")
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I'm certain that's true. They rarely add a new designer, it's super hard to get in, but they asked you and you turned them down to go to a bigger and better store right?
I think it is horrible what happened with the pirating issue and all with this girl that just got called out on it but really people quit slobbing the knob of ssd already. That store has some really shitty designs in it. They have only one good designer in there and the rest is just crap. I love how Robin states we strive to make something unique with every design we do.the shit looks like everyone elses to me. Try to get some decent shit in there. Quit trying to mass produce everything just to get something out there.
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Speaking from experience I worked at SSD and I will tell you the reason I quit last year was because Robin pushed to hard for new product every week. It became very difficult for me as an artist to be creative in that way and eventually I realized it was about making money for Robin and she didnt care about anything else. I felt like a machine pumping out weekly kits I didnt even like, just to please her deep pockets. It killed my creativity and ultimately some of my sales (because the designs were not that exciting anymore I admit) and eventually I left. From the outside it looks like a great place but honestly it was the biggest mistake I ever made as an artist. I know a few girls that have also worked there that say the same things about Robin and the shop. Probably the reason for the constant turnover there.
bigger and better store right?
April 11, 2010 6:27 PM
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Yes, bitterdigiscraps.com
6:31: you're so full of shit!
What SSD designers have left in the past year?
^^^^oh and it is FACT, I worked for them (SSD) for quite some time. All our kits looked the same after a while and there is nothng original there. I dont care what your opinion is about SSD.
One last thing since you seem to know-it-all. There are plenty of designers they have been seeked out but the designer turned down SSD. I've seen that there too so dont think it's so rare. Just because you dont know doesnt mean it's not true.
ok, so you got me. I dont need you dragging my good name through mud so I wont say when I left really but I did in fact work there. Get over yourself bitch. No need to be so fucking jealous because you couldnt get in there.
Robin pushed to hard for new product every week. It became very difficult for me as an artist to be creative in that way and eventually I realized it was about making money for Robin and she didnt care about anything else.
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God forbid that a shop owner that sells digi kits would ask you to actually produce something and then even worse, she would want to make money. Oh my that's the worst thing I have ever heard!
God forbid that a shop owner that sells digi kits would ask you to actually produce something and then even worse, she would want to make money. Oh my that's the worst thing I have ever heard!
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Shut the fuck up bitch. someone piss in your cheerios this morning or what?
All our kits looked the same after a while and there is nothng original there.
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so there's what 10 roller skating kits? 10 doctor kits? They ALL look the same? Sorry but I don't think so.
And I don't believe that you "worked" for SSD at all. It's too easy to lie on this blog behine your annony wall.
and before you try to point that back to me, I'm not claiming to be someone that I'm not.
Shut the fuck up bitch. someone piss in your cheerios this morning or what?
April 11, 2010 6:42 PM
LOL! I think the person posting that is a dumbass. Gosh, a digi store owner wanting to make money!!! How terrible!
And that's your best comeback. What are you 12?
and before you try to point that back to me, I'm not claiming to be someone that I'm not.
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Ive got nothing to prove to you and its your problem if you choose to think like an idiot. Get a life bitch.
your funny. you must be one of the wanna be suck ups that has been trying to get in there for years. ha, ha....your hillarious! im outta here so you can talk to yourself.
Ive got nothing to prove to you and its your problem if you choose to think like an idiot. Get a life bitch.
April 11, 2010 6:46 PM
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and you're a lying about "working" for SSD. Some life you have. Sitting on a blog trying to be someone you never will become!
you must be one of the wanna be suck ups that has been trying to get in there for years.
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actually, I'm not even a designer. I don't CT either. I don't hang out at SSD. So what's there to get into? I buy the kits that I want and leave.
Probably the reason for the constant turnover there.
April 11, 2010 6:31 PM
What constant turnover? Who's left even in the past year? Why do SO MANY stay if it's that bad?
7:01, don't believe the shit that's being posted on this blog. You won't get an answer because they are a bunch of lying dipshits.
Because the designers who follow Robin's release schedule make a lot of money. Slackers who whine about it don't make money and want to leave.
God forbid that a shop owner that sells digi kits would ask you to actually produce something and then even worse, she would want to make money. Oh my that's the worst thing I have ever heard!
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I actually agree with this statement. We keep asking for more professionalism in the industry and for it to be less sahm excuses. A store owner requiring designers to actually design is good for the owner and the designer.
So I'm not sure how this is a "piss in your cheerios comment". It's more of an observation on how business works.
Speaking from experience I worked at SSD and I will tell you the reason I quit last year was because Robin pushed to hard for new product every week. It became very difficult for me as an artist to be creative in that way and eventually I realized it was about making money for Robin and she didnt care about anything else. I felt like a machine pumping out weekly kits I didnt even like, just to please her deep pockets. It killed my creativity and ultimately some of my sales (because the designs were not that exciting anymore I admit) and eventually I left. From the outside it looks like a great place but honestly it was the biggest mistake I ever made as an artist. I know a few girls that have also worked there that say the same things about Robin and the shop. Probably the reason for the constant turnover there.
April 11, 2010 6:31 PM
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This has more BS in it than a presidential promise.
ok, so you got me. I dont need you dragging my good name through mud so I wont say when I left really but I did in fact work there. Get over yourself bitch. No need to be so fucking jealous because you couldnt get in there.
April 11, 2010 6:40 PM
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If your kits are as creative as your language, it's no wonder you didn't sell anything.
I had never been to SSD before the recent piracy thread. The forum seemed friendly, and everyone was excited about the GGG sale so I went and had a look - and even at 50% off minimum I couldn't find a THING - not one thing - I wanted to spend money on. There wasn't a single unique kit in the bunch. And I think the entire store needs a lesson in previews because my 12 year old could do better.
Speaking as a designer, how can you put out an original kit each week? Designing is supposed to be an art form. Sorry but I don't see myself as an assembly line.
No fucking wonder there are so many problems with CU misuse. When designers are forced to put out an artistic form of art each week every week to meet a quota, shit's going to happen. People will rely on CU too much.
Blah, blah, blah.
As a designer, it's your job to find out what the criteria is before you sign to a store. If the owner doesn't tell you, ask. If the owner changes her or his mind, you let them know that it's not what you signed up for and negotiate. It's a business, treat it like a business.
Art form my ass.
Huh? It can't be an art form because it's a business?
Producing a kit is not an art form. It's a creative process, not art.
Far too many designers think of themselves as artists first and business women - or men - second. This is their big mistake. If you just want to make art, give it away for free. If you want to sell it, then think of it as a business.
I used to be designer but I quit, as it was not worth my time. Far too many store owners expected me to do more that just sell and design. It was not profitable.
Huh? It can't be an art form because it's a business?
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6:31 pm here. Thats what I was saying and why I left. Making a business run is one thing, asking us to create a kit every single week so she could make a mint as quick as possible was killing my creativity. That's all I was really trying to say but the idiot (6:40pm aka: the unintelligent bitch) who only believes what she wants and hasn't an artistic bone in her body doesnt have a clue what that means. What reason in the world would I have to lie about working there? Absolutely NONE. I did work there and if I didnt I would post my name but I'm not stupid enough for her stupid ass to ruin my career by doing so. Like I said she's an idiot unlike myself. Luckily I'm in a great store, producing kits as I like making a great salary.
Producing a kit is not an art form. It's a creative process, not art.
Far too many designers think of themselves as artists first and business women - or men - second. This is their big mistake. If you just want to make art, give it away for free. If you want to sell it, then think of it as a business.
I used to be designer but I quit, as it was not worth my time. Far too many store owners expected me to do more that just sell and design. It was not profitable.
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Well, for me I am an artist and a business woman first. We can be both if done right. And creating a kit IS an art form. That said, mass producing crap does NOT make you sucessful. I think we see so much turnover in designers because so many jump into this overnight and mass produce very unoriginal crap hoping to make a quick buck. I've been around long enough to know that this is a bad idea.
Bottom line - mass production does not make you an artist, good business person or rich.
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Making a kit doesn't make you an artist either. Certainly there are artists out there producing kits, but they are far and few between.
Far too many store owners expected me to do more that just sell and design. It was not profitable.
That's called relationship building and marketing. You can't just design and sell - if you aren't willing to market yourself its just as well you quit.
What reason in the world would I have to lie about working there? Absolutely NONE. I did work there and if I didnt I would post my name but I'm not stupid enough for her stupid ass to ruin my career by doing so. Like I said she's an idiot unlike myself. Luckily I'm in a great store, producing kits as I like making a great salary.
April 11, 2010 11:02 PM
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You should really watch what you are posting. It's obvious to me who you are and honestly I'm shocked at the way you are presenting yourself. If I caught on, then others have too.
You should really watch what you are posting. It's obvious to me who you are and honestly I'm shocked at the way you are presenting yourself. If I caught on, then others have too.
April 12, 2010 12:10 AM
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Actually, you don't know who it is. And because it's anon here, 11:02 could be intentionally trying to make you think that he/she is someone else.
People post here frequently with no other intentions then to make someone look bad. Since you don't know for sure, don't assume that isn't what's happening in this case.
That's all I was really trying to say but the idiot (6:40pm aka: the unintelligent bitch) who only believes what she wants and hasn't an artistic bone in her body doesnt have a clue what that means. What reason in the world would I have to lie about working there? Absolutely NONE.
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If that's what you were trying to say, why didn't you just say that? Instead you made Robin out to be this horrible store owner that was sweat shopping your talent.
And what reason does anyone have to lie on this blog? To bring down the stores that they don't like. There's competition and hatred in this industry and it is clear that many are willing to back stab to amke a store look bad.
So maybe you are telling the truth or maybe you aren't? It's impossible to know without you saying who you are. It's impossible for you to say who you are without ruining your rep. But I'm with the above poster. I have some idea because only a handful have left the store and only a few hang around enough to care enough to comment.
OK, am I the only curious person here? I can't think of anyone who has left SSD recently. But this conversation has made me wish I had paid closer attention.
Also for the sake of argument, my personal feeling is that the poster saying that she "worked for" and "made a salary" from SSD is lying. As a designer, you don't really work for the store or make a salary from them. It's consignment. You aren't their employee. I have never met a store owner or a sucessful designer who felt that they were an employed by the store. So your wording makes me suspect that you are lying.
But if you really didn't sell your designs at SSD and leave because all your artistic mojo was squashed out of you as you were opressed into slave labor...well, that just sucks all the fun out of this particular line of gossip. So just forget that I mentioned it.
I figured it out too. I'm not surprised.
Seriously? I could come in here and curse and say I was someone who just left SBG because Maya is a freak ... you might think you know who I am, but you have NO idea. I would just know enough details to make you think you know who I am.
I can only think of one designer that has left SSD in the past 2 years that is still around at a popular store, or I guess only one that I cared to follow.
You don't enough inside details and that's why you can't figure it out. I suppose someone could make this up but I'm not sure why they would. I'm not going to post it here in case I'm wrong. But I suspect someone.
Far too many store owners expected me to do more that just sell and design. It was not profitable.
That's called relationship building and marketing. You can't just design and sell - if you aren't willing to market yourself its just as well you quit.
April 12, 2010 12:05 AM
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I know that, that is not what I was taking about. When I said sell, I was including marketing et al.
I was talking about hosting challenges and crap like that. It was taking up far too much time and I wasn't getting paid for it.
Hosting challenges is a form of marketing and networking. Being active in the forums is good for sales.
WTF is going on with the google ads in the DST forum posts? That's tacky!
Login and you won't see them.
I was talking about hosting challenges and crap like that. It was taking up far too much time and I wasn't getting paid for it.
Ya. That's marketing and relationship building.
Active forums = higher sales for you.
Hosting challenges = getting to know people so the feel like you are friends = more sales for you.
That's why almost every store does it. I can't think of any successful store that doesn't. Store owners aren't just asking this stuff of designers because they feel like making more work for you. It's work for them, too - they wouldn't do it if it wasn't proven successful.
Like I said - if you don't get that, it's just as well you stopped designing.
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If all of that had worked, I'd still be selling. I get it and I got it then too. Do stop treating me like I'm an idiot.
People turned up to the challenges to get free stuff. It made next to no difference in my sales.
I don't see any successful designers doing all that crap, so that throws your theory out the window, doesn't it?
Hosting challenges is a form of marketing and networking. Being active in the forums is good for sales.
April 12, 2010 1:06 AM
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Proof? I've been around for a long time and while I see that people believe this, it's not true and there's no proof that it works.
WTF is going on with the google ads in the DST forum posts? That's tacky!
April 12, 2010 1:08 AM
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What ads? I don't see them. Adblock is your friend.
I see lots and LOTS of successful designers doing all that 'crap'.
I'm not treating you like an idiot. I'm treating you like someone who doesn't understand marketing. You say you get it, but you still think of it as something unreasonable that store owners required of you and didn't pay you for - so you don't get it at all.
Perhaps people saw that you thought it was all 'crap' and you were resenting having to do it, so the relationship building didn't happen.
Almost every dollar I spend on kits goes to designers I feel like I know personally. I will find money to get their new kits to support and encourage them. And its all from feeling welcome at their store forums, having them respond personally to me, and start to feel like friends.
Digi designing was not profitable, so I quit. I know all about marketing. The digi scrap industry required far too much of my personal time. There's this 'need' in the scrap industry for the customers to get to know the designers. Customers in other 'cottage' industries don't feel this need.
I'm doing really well in my other little cottage business and it requires zero participation in forums, zero hosting of challenges, zero crap.
I advertise and I get customers. Pure and simple and profitable.
Fair enough. It's a need in this industry, true, and I can see there are other ones that don't have the same need, as well as other ones that do.
It wasn't ever a judgment on you - so my apologies if it came across that way. I was just saying if that stuff bothered you, it was just as well you quit. I don't see that stuff going away.
I didn't see it as a judgment. I'm sorry if I sounded snarky.
I was in a store and doing well and it had no forums, no challenges etc. but then it all fell apart.
I can see why some designers go to 2Peas, I don't think they need to do all that stuff over there. I could be wrong though.
I don't see any successful designers doing all that crap, so that throws your theory out the window, doesn't it?
April 12, 2010 1:19 AM
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You have obviously never spent time at DSP then because ALL the designers host challenges there. It works if you do it right.
your funny. you must be one of the wanna be suck ups that has been trying to get in there for years. ha, ha....your hillarious! im outta here so you can talk to yourself.
April 11, 2010 6:48 PM
You got your laptop at San Francisco?
You have obviously never spent time at DSP then because ALL the designers host challenges there. It works if you do it right.
April 12, 2010 3:25 AM
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Just because it works for one store, doesn't mean it works for all stores. Quite a few stores have quit the idea all together because it's time consuming and doesn't work.
Just because it works for one store, doesn't mean it works for all stores. Quite a few stores have quit the idea all together because it's time consuming and doesn't work.
April 12, 2010 4:21 AM
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Then they are doing it wrong.
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You are so naive.
Challenges are dumb anyway. I don't do them because I want to scrap what I want to scrap and not have someone tell me to do something just so I can get points for a kit or discount.
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Challenges are dumb anyway. I don't do them because I want to scrap what I want to scrap and not have someone tell me to do something just so I can get points for a kit or discount.
April 12, 2010 7:54 AM
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I agree. But when there is a yummy prize (kit, discount...) for everybody who participates (not only for the best LO), I throw some elements in a page and then I call it a LO!
All of you that are talking about SSD not putting out original stuff, or their stuff is crappy, etc, makes me want to know what are you looking for in a kit? What style do you like to scrap with? What stores DO you like to shop at?
Sounds like maybe I want to broaden my horizons a bit and see where the really good stuff is.
I agree. But when there is a yummy prize (kit, discount...) for everybody who participates (not only for the best LO), I throw some elements in a page and then I call it a LO!
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8:05 that's a stupid attitude! Why make a crappy LO just to get a prize? Why not put some thought into it and scrap a fantastic page to be proud of?
Almost every dollar I spend on kits goes to designers I feel like I know personally. I will find money to get their new kits to support and encourage them. And its all from feeling welcome at their store forums, having them respond personally to me, and start to feel like friends.
April 12, 2010 1:28 AM
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I don't get this mentality at all. I don't need to be friends with the guy at the grocery store, or the paper boy, etc. These people want to sell you something. They should be polite and professional, but it's ridiculous to demand fake friendship too.
All the sucking up people do in digiland is just bizarre.
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Oh I agree. I dont think most designer care that much about their customers. It's all fake. they just want your money so of course they are going to be super nice to you.
All of you that are talking about SSD not putting out original stuff, or their stuff is crappy, etc, makes me want to know what are you looking for in a kit? What style do you like to scrap with? What stores DO you like to shop at?
Sounds like maybe I want to broaden my horizons a bit and see where the really good stuff is.
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for me I just get tired of the same looking kits that they put out. Maybe if they took a little more time to put some effort into the kits they would be more original. Its like a race to get the most kits out. I think a good example of what I appreciate is Shabby Princess. I bet SP makes more money by herself then the entire SSD shop together.
I don't need to be friends with the guy at the grocery store, or the paper boy, etc. These people want to sell you something. They should be polite and professional, but it's ridiculous to demand fake friendship too.
I have 3 grocery stores within a 3 block walking distance of me. I always go to the one where the owner is kind, knows my kids names, smiles at me, and asks me how I am doing. It's not friendship, but it's personal touch that makes one place stand out over others in a competitive market.
I have seen some stores change their points/rewards systems, but I haven't seen any do away with challenges altogether.
All of you that are talking about SSD not putting out original stuff, or their stuff is crappy, etc, makes me want to know what are you looking for in a kit? What style do you like to scrap with? What stores DO you like to shop at?
Sounds like maybe I want to broaden my horizons a bit and see where the really good stuff is.
There seems to be a formula to their kits - the same frames, word strips, flowers and ribbons show up again and again. Unless its a boy kit, then its frames, word strips and stars.
I'm not trying to sound mean - I just find the whole store really uninspired and uninspiring
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I bet you prefer digital art/fantasy kits?
I disagree about ssd. I like their stuff. But I'm a very traditional scrapper. When I see stuff at Catscrap or After5, I usually don't care for it.
It's not friendship, but it's personal touch that makes one place stand out over others in a competitive market.
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I get your point. But that's what I mean by being polite and professional. There's a huge difference between being friendly and being friends. I don't think everyone knows that.
you can all be ssd haters. doesn't matter. they just keep doing their thing and selling kits! the designers do make a lot of money. so they have a following.
The beauty of capitalism is that people are free to buy wherever they want. If you don't like what a store sells, don't buy it, and if no one else likes it, the store will eventually go out of business. I don't buy much at SSD, but it doesn't bother me that other people do. So if it bothers you, I'm wondering why. Care to enlighten me?
The beauty of capitalism is that people are free to buy wherever they want. If you don't like what a store sells, don't buy it, and if no one else likes it, the store will eventually go out of business. I don't buy much at SSD, but it doesn't bother me that other people do. So if it bothers you, I'm wondering why. Care to enlighten me?
The beauty of capitalism is that people are free to buy wherever they want. If you don't like what a store sells, don't buy it, and if no one else likes it, the store will eventually go out of business. I don't buy much at SSD, but it doesn't bother me that other people do. So if it bothers you, I'm wondering why. Care to enlighten me?
For whatever reason they are the store this blog loves to hate! There must be some history. The only thing I can assume is that they aren't their scrapping style and they think they shouldn't be successful because they don't shop there.
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Clearly, I really feel strongly about this, lol! Anyway, I don't know how I triple posted. Shrug.
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ROTFLMAO!!
Can I change the subject for just a short minute? Im working on a layout and I always seem to struggle with great drop shadows for my elements/pictures. Does anyone have a great tutorial or know where I can buy some great styles? I am tired of the same old boring shadows and love the look of a layout where the shadows actually make the page look real (not digital). I know, Im lame, but just looking to spice up my pages.:)
^^^This is a smack blog.
And please don't buy shadows. That's a rip-off!
shadow tut:
http://flergsblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/tutorial-drop-shadows.html
^^^This is a smack blog.
And please don't buy shadows. That's a rip-off!
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ok, how bout i just say i hate her and plan to rip off her idea and sell it. Will that satisfy your smacking need? Jeeze
free shadows here:
http://www.flergalicious.com/blog/?p=181
I don't buy much at SSD, but it doesn't bother me that other people do. So if it bothers you, I'm wondering why. Care to enlighten me?
It doesn't bother me at all. I was interested in their store because their forum is so full of positive people who seem to LOVE it there. So I really tried to want to buy some of it, and even half price wasn't interested. I don't really care that other people like it and it does well.
I get your point. But that's what I mean by being polite and professional. There's a huge difference between being friendly and being friends. I don't think everyone knows that.
I agree. I don't think of designers I buy from as my friends ... except for one of them as we really did cross into friendship because of similar circumstances in our families. But I do still buy from them because of a personal touch I don't get from other designers.
Here's a cpuple real pirates:
http://tinyurl.com/y57ganh
and
http://tinyurl.com/yywnjv4
Ebay never shuts them down either. :(
Piracy and copyright infringement is all over Ebay. They don't give a shit as long as there making money.
How do you report that shit to Disney?
I feel sorry for the people that buy from her. Her sample is terrible!
http://www.rleeroush.net/index.htm
not just ebay...
tips@disneyantipiracy.com
How do you report that shit to Disney?
I found this in a forum, the person had reported copyright infringement and this was a response from Disney-
Please feel free to use our email address (tips@disneyantipiracy.com) or
our Antipiracy voice mail hotline, 818-560-3300, if you want to provide
more information about the suspected infringement or to report a
suspected infringement in the future.
Very truly yours,
Antipiracy Group, Corporate Legal
The Walt Disney Company
500 South Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-0527
Good luck to ya..there's so much of that crap on Ebay I don't know how you would go about reporting it all.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
http://www.rleeroush.net/index.htm
not just ebay...
April 12, 2010 4:38 PM
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This gal is either totally ignorant of copyright laws of she doesn't give a shit. Disney, Pixar, Pooh, Simpsons etc etc etc.
This gal is either totally ignorant of copyright laws of she doesn't give a shit. Disney, Pixar, Pooh, Simpsons etc etc etc.
April 12, 2010 5:49 PM
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She's been contacted numerous times because she stole other designers' items to put in those kits. She knows. She doesn't give a shit. Karma's a bitch though and she'll pay her dues.
I wonder if http://www.stopdigitalpiracy.blogspot.com/ can help?
...snicker...
She has some of my freebies from 2005 in one of her kits. Not cu stuff either. I created them digitally and they look like digital crap but they were cool in the old days, LOL! She told me that she had permission from Disney. And she got my stuff from a CU designer who she never replied to the request for name.
I think she's smoking something and lacking in brain cells.
Karma's a bitch though and she'll pay her dues.
April 12, 2010 6:12 PM
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Proof? I keep hearing this and it's just not true. Yes, a few people get caught out, but there are so many more out there that never get caught.
Proof? I keep hearing this and it's just not true. Yes, a few people get caught out, but there are so many more out there that never get caught.
April 12, 2010 6:53 PM
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Proof? Faith. Why are you asking for proof? There's not much I can say to prove faith. You either believe or you don't. So I'm counting on that afterlife will deliver justice in the end. If you don't believe that, then that's your world view and you might not understand why I look at it that way when justice isn't properly delievered. I know she'll continue on and keep making money. But at some point she'll be answering to the crap she put out into this world.
But in the mean time, I have reported her to the Disney email and hope Disney will dish out some hell to her!
These look like something I have in my stash but I can't locate:
http://tinyurl.com/y58odws
Are they Jen Caputo's?
She charges shipping! People are paying $5.99 for a kit and then $4.00 more for shipping. And they are getting crap. How sad for those scrappers!
Proof? Faith. Why are you asking for proof? There's not much I can say to prove faith. You either believe or you don't. So I'm counting on that afterlife will deliver justice in the end.
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Oh, one of those things that helps you sleep at night. Right, got it.
Oh, one of those things that helps you sleep at night. Right, got it.
April 12, 2010 7:51 PM
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Do you have anything to contribute about the piracy issue?
These look like something I have in my stash but I can't locate:
http://tinyurl.com/y58odws
Are they Jen Caputo's?
April 12, 2010 7:06 PM
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Not Jen's. But those templates are easy to do, maybe the seller made them?
Do you have anything to contribute about the piracy issue?
April 12, 2010 7:54 PM
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Why? Do I need too? I didn't realize that was the price of admission.
Not Jen's. But those templates are easy to do, maybe the seller made them?
April 12, 2010 7:55 PM
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She's stolen everything else. These are probably included. I don't think she has a creative bone in her body. Are you up for being her lawyer or something?
tips@disneyantipiracy.com
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I bet you prefer digital art/fantasy kits?
I disagree about ssd. I like their stuff. But I'm a very traditional scrapper. When I see stuff at Catscrap or After5, I usually don't care for it.
Actually no - I'm like you, I prefer traditional kits that look like the kits I used to paper scrap with. I guess I can't put my finger on it but I just find SSD really uninspired.
I don't like Catpscrap or After5 either - everything looks the same there too - a bunch of ephemeral elements on almost white papers.
Maybe I'm just too picky.
What about Oscraps?
She's stolen everything else. These are probably included. I don't think she has a creative bone in her body. Are you up for being her lawyer or something?
April 12, 2010 8:14 PM
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No, I just don't believe in assuming things.
Not Jen's. But those templates are easy to do, maybe the seller made them?
April 12, 2010 7:55 PM
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u r assuming that she made them.
No, I'm not. I said maybe she made them. There's a difference, can you see it?
Anyhow, the folded frames are here:
http://www.storeide.se/gunhild/Scrapbooking.htm
I thought they were Gunhild's.
^^^Thanks for posting that link! WOW! Great stuff!
Ha!
ALL FILES ARE MAILED ON CD SO YOU HAVE A PERMANENT BACK-UP OF YOUR PURCHASE.
SHIPPING IS $4.00, THIS INCLUDES THE COST OF THE CD, CASE, PACKAGING AND SHIPPING.
(EBAY REQUIRES ALL DIGITAL ITEMS BE SHIPPED. FOR ALTERNATIVE SHIPPING METHODS, PLEASE EMAIL ME.)
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/calls-15/geek-chic-summer-guest-call-237002/
just GAG
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Huh? I don't get it, why are you gagging?
Hmm, Interesting comments about SSD. I wonder if the person commenting on the previews might have a point, because I have been there a whole lot of times, but I can never get past the point of looking to buying. Can't put my finger on why that would be, tho.
Anonymous said...
^^^Thanks for posting that link! WOW! Great stuff!
April 12, 2010 8:59 PM
Ok, I just can't believe that you don't know her! Hmm, let me tell you another name: Scrappin cop. Now you will have realized that you have paid for what the "designer" got for free and then just recoloured/clustered!!! Welcome to freebieland!
Scrappn cop is fantastic, but it's only free if you use it for personal use. If you're going to go commercial and resell, she requires a $20.00 lifetime fee.
Ok, I just can't believe that you don't know her! Hmm, let me tell you another name: Scrappin cop. Now you will have realized that you have paid for what the "designer" got for free and then just recoloured/clustered!!! Welcome to freebieland!
April 13, 2010 5:45 AM
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Actually, I'm excited because I've never seen most of this stuff before. I think I must buy from designers who don't use a lot of CU items. But both those places are great stash builders!
I'm no longer a freebie hunter so I didn't know there was good stuff.
Scrappn cop is fantastic, but it's only free if you use it for personal use. If you're going to go commercial and resell, she requires a $20.00 lifetime fee.
April 13, 2010 7:50 AM
I am a scrapper, not a designer. My point is that I can "design" too, because there are many resources out there, and there are free. Why should I buy i.e. a set of flairs with animal doodles on them, when there is the freebie flair template by x1, a free doodle font with animals by x2? I can combine those two things, like any scrapper. Got it?
Many designers started designing when they realized a) thata they could do that themselves and b) that there are scrappers willing to pay for their kits no matter how unispired they were.
I suggest that people should stop buying what they can make themselves (that doesn't apply only to digiland. Think for instance the orange juice: buy oranges and make your own - it's healthier and better tasting).
^^^I get what you are saying, but all that can take extra time. I don't want to have to recolor and mess with stuff every time. So I buy it already coordinated. But I buy a lot of CU stuff so that I can do my own thing. I found that can be more useful especially when it comes to silk flowers and buttons.
I like to have frozen orange juice on hand just in case I don't have time to squeeze my own. ;)
With all the CU stuff out there and all the free stuff, CU and kits, I'm actually surprised anyone with a good knowledge of their program still buys from designers at all.
I'm sorry, but I think vegaschristina is a whiny little twit. She is often very rude to others, but she seems to have made herself the NSBR manners police. I found her little catty remarks toward Ruby in this thread very distasteful. http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/nsbr-chatter-9/warning-those-you-who-play-farmville-mafia-wars-update-post-1-a-236859/
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she's just ignorant and bull-headed. I ignore her.
I found her little catty remarks toward Ruby in this thread very distasteful.
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Oh please, Ruby is hardly an innocent when it comes to dishing out the snark! She comes across as a sanctimonious elitist who tries to cow those with opposing viewpoints with her superior attitude.
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I agree that Ruby can be like that, but I personally didn't think she had a sanctimonious, elitist attitude in that particular thread. Just because she sometimes acts like that, it doesn't give others free reign to be snarky to her whenever she doesn't agree with them. You know the old saying, two wrongs don't make a right. I think vegaschristina was being a bitch when it wasn't warranted, just because Ruby had the nerve to express a different viewpoint, and it's not the first time Christina has done that.
Anonymous said...
With all the CU stuff out there and all the free stuff, CU and kits, I'm actually surprised anyone with a good knowledge of their program still buys from designers at all.
April 13, 2010 9:32 AM
I totally agree! Maybe the designers buy from each other, you know many of them are also CT and want to support each other, so the money just changes hands.
Vegas Christina got burned. She's not fessing up to it. I wonder if her husband used her credit card for game points
Anonymous said...
I'm sorry, but I think vegaschristina is a whiny little twit. She is often very rude to others, but she seems to have made herself the NSBR manners police. I found her little catty remarks toward Ruby in this thread very distasteful. http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/nsbr-chatter-9/warning-those-you-who-play-farmville-mafia-wars-update-post-1-a-236859/
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Wait! I thought discussions regarding personal matters with businesses were against DST rules? Pssssh!
I found a new Designer, well new to me. Nitwit Collections. They seem to have some really adorable items over there. Anyone ever purchased from them? Is it good quality, I hate to spend that kind of money on a kit to find out that I cannot use the items. So any input would be really helpful.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/data/500/tranquil_1kl.jpg
The word art on this layout baffles me. What does this mean?
"fill your paper with the breathings of your heart."
Is that a reference to scrapbooking? An ESL problem? Something else?
Nitwit is a good designer.
Wait! I thought discussions regarding personal matters with businesses were against DST rules? Pssssh
Quick! Push the red 'report' button so the admin can come in and shut it down to make way for more ISO posts!
Maybe she's the best designer ever, but her choice of names is...questionable.
Never heard of Nitwit, but Peppermint (One LIttle Bird) is leaving MScraps and heading for Catscrap -- surely there is good gossip in that move since she's only been there a couple of months.
Wait! I thought discussions regarding personal matters with businesses were against DST rules? Pssssh!
April 13, 2010 3:05 PM
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Really? Never heard that rule before. The only rule I know about business is not to discuss transactions in which you are not personally involved and the one about no accusations or slandering unless you have proof.
Besides, even if there was such a rule, not saying there isn't one, I've just never heard it, you can't expect new management to be in the know about all old management's rules.
Never heard of Nitwit, but Peppermint (One LIttle Bird) is leaving MScraps and heading for Catscrap -- surely there is good gossip in that move since she's only been there a couple of months.
April 13, 2010 5:05 PM
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It's called getting your foot in the door and going to a better place. That is all. Or I assume.
Never heard of Nitwit, but Peppermint (One LIttle Bird) is leaving MScraps and heading for Catscrap -- surely there is good gossip in that move since she's only been there a couple of months.
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Sometimes it just boils down to a bad business choice, so it's better to cut your losses and move on.
I just did practically the same thing - no I'm not her. But one of the stores I joined a few months ago, presented itself to me in a way that wasn't factual plus the owner turned out be a person who didn't keep her word. The forum was dead - the advertising crap and I hardly sold anything. I left. She's pissed, but I don't care. It was a bad move on my part to sign up with her. I should have trusted by gut, but I didn't. Live and learn.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/data/500/tranquil_1kl.jpg
The word art on this layout baffles me. What does this mean?
"fill your paper with the breathings of your heart."
Is that a reference to scrapbooking? An ESL problem? Something else?
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Google. It's a poem or quote by William Wordsworth, speaking about poetry.
I just did practically the same thing - no I'm not her. But one of the stores I joined a few months ago, presented itself to me in a way that wasn't factual plus the owner turned out be a person who didn't keep her word. The forum was dead - the advertising crap and I hardly sold anything. I left. She's pissed, but I don't care. It was a bad move on my part to sign up with her. I should have trusted by gut, but I didn't. Live and learn.
April 13, 2010 5:28 PM
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Been there, done that. It was another reason in the end that I quit designing.
Get your story straight plz. Peppermint was never a designer at MScraps.
Google. It's a poem or quote by William Wordsworth, speaking about poetry.
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Thanks! I suppose the fact that it's from Wordsworth gives it some class, even if it's an odd choice.
Really? Never heard that rule before. The only rule I know about business is not to discuss transactions in which you are not personally involved and the one about no accusations or slandering unless you have proof.
Besides, even if there was such a rule, not saying there isn't one, I've just never heard it, you can't expect new management to be in the know about all old management's rules.
There is such a rule and an over-zealous admin applied it in the DCR recently.
I just did practically the same thing - no I'm not her. But one of the stores I joined a few months ago, presented itself to me in a way that wasn't factual plus the owner turned out be a person who didn't keep her word. The forum was dead - the advertising crap and I hardly sold anything. I left. She's pissed, but I don't care. It was a bad move on my part to sign up with her. I should have trusted by gut, but I didn't. Live and learn.
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oh oh oh - what store? lol
There is such a rule and an over-zealous admin applied it in the DCR recently.
April 13, 2010 7:51 PM
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Thanks for clearing that up.
Get your story straight plz. Peppermint was never a designer at MScraps.
April 13, 2010 6:30 PM
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I thought she was always at catscrap? But I don't really keep up with this stuff, so I guess I could be wrong.
Nitwit collections is terrific. Mary Fran's kits are really fun, and the quality is top notch. If you're looking for fun and cute, you can't go wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
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go away.
Peppermint is leaving CatScrap for Oscraps.
OScraps would make sense. It looks like CatScrap is holding a call for new designers. They wouldn't hold a call just because one designer leaves, would they? Maybe there is some gossip there. The entire site looks like it's in disrepair, the forums are dead, only the same couple of designers with new products all the time. I'd probably get the hell out of there too.
I used to love Catscrap, but now all their stuff looks washed out and horrible. Not sure what happened, but I haven't bought anything from them in 6 months. Kind of sad. They were cool at one point.
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That was a useful contribution, thank you.
I don't know why everyone is beating around the bush. The two designers that I can think of that have left SSD within the last couple years are Laura Decaetis and Bree Clarkson.
What does everyone think of the new line up at Creative Mundi. I am a huge fan of Starlight Designs and Armina. There is a couple of other new Designers over there that look like they have some cute Designs too. I am going to go broke soon.
Thanks for the ad, Barbara, but as everybody knows, you don't bring up a designer's name unless you are ready for them to be grilled over the open flame. I have most of Armina's CU myself, thanks, and I know there are fans of Amerigo and the others, but I am not one. I just don't care for cartoonish kits containing little people with big eyes.
By no means was I trying to place a ad. I was simply asking what everyone's opinions were. There are many other shops that I enjoy too. It is just that one is fairly new to me. I did not mean to stir any type of trouble for any Designers. I will asking that again.
That should read I will not be asking that again.
I was also a fan of Catscrap but yes I agree their Designs have gone downhill
Laura Decaetis and Bree Clarkson
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what happened to them? do they still design anymore??
Laura Decaetis and Bree Clarkson
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what happened to them? do they still design anymore??
April 15, 2010 1:32 AM
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Laura opened up Shabby Pickle and still designs. Bree only really did templates, I'm not sure if she is still doing them though.
The two designers that I can think of that have left SSD within the last couple years are Laura Decaetis and Bree Clarkson.
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I'm sure there's been more than that, didn't Mary Fran of Nitwit go there for a very short time in the last two years? And I think there was one or two others. I'm fairly sure that about that, as they always seemed so steady and then in a two year period, they seemed to have a big turnover.
I don't know why everyone is beating around the bush. The two designers that I can think of that have left SSD within the last couple years are Laura Decaetis and Bree Clarkson.
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Kay Miller was also there for a short period.
Don't forget that Michelle Martin was at SSD for a while.
Why would you buy Lily Design's new "Sea Foam" kit if you already have her "Autumn by the Bay?" Isn't it all just more of the same? I can't quite put my finger on why but using that same little girl in the sailor suit in all those sample layouts is kindof creepy.
I can't understand how sites like this are in business. Could they actually be making any money?
http://sensualposers.net/Store/index.php?main_page=index&manufacturers_id=3&zenid=3hb22aus0stmo4n66fiip459h7
Also, what the hell are "posers" for? I keep seeing these horrific little creatures for sale! Who buys them and why?
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Taggers use them to make signature tags.
Why would you buy Lily Design's new "Sea Foam" kit if you already have her "Autumn by the Bay?" Isn't it all just more of the same? I can't quite put my finger on why but using that same little girl in the sailor suit in all those sample layouts is kindof creepy.
April 15, 2010 11:39 AM
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Errr. Yeah. Slightly creepy, unless they were all made by the same person who really loves her little girl (?).
Not the kind of kit I'd normally take a second glance at or buy.
God forbid that a shop owner that sells digi kits would ask you to actually produce something and then even worse, she would want to make money. Oh my that's the worst thing I have ever heard!
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Of course has the right to demand weekly kits. And designers have every right to leave if that interferes with their creativity. And consumers have every right to stop buying it because it all looks the same after a while.
Errr. Yeah. Slightly creepy, unless they were all made by the same person who really loves her little girl (?).
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ummm....no.....there were at least three different scrappers who used the same girl in their layouts. In fact, it could be, although it is hard to tell that the photo may actually be part of the kit? Whose little girl is it? Lily's? If that is the case then I think it is even MORE creepy that she is selling the image of her daughter as part of the kit.
Don't forget that Michelle Martin was at SSD for a while.
April 15, 2010 9:29 AM
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You mean Micheline Martin.
Kay Miller was also there for a short period.
April 15, 2010 7:43 AM
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That's right, it was Kay, not Mary Fran. Similar style, that's where I got confused.
I see that SaraAmarie has left too.
That's right, it was Kay, not Mary Fran. Similar style, that's where I got confused.
I see that SaraAmarie has left too.
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Yep Sara Amarie retired from designing if I remember correctly.
Wasn't Amanda Rockwell at SSD before she went to ScrapArtist?
I think Amanda Rockwell had her own store immediately before she went to SA, but I have no idea whether she sold at SSD (or anywhere else) before that.
Amanda was at SSD for a period of time after selling at ES and Digital Freebies. Left to go to Funky Play Ground and then moved on to Scrap Artist.
that's who I suspect
Who cares?
that's who I suspect
April 16, 2010 4:52 PM
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Amanda? You are kidding, right? She pumps out weekly products at SA all the time, why would she bitch about pumping out product? Not to mention, she's been at SA for two years if not more. Some people just don't think enough.
I don't think it's any of the designers who left, I think it's someone who is just trash talking.
I don't get this mentality at all. I don't need to be friends with the guy at the grocery store, or the paper boy, etc. These people want to sell you something. They should be polite and professional, but it's ridiculous to demand fake friendship too.
All the sucking up people do in digiland is just bizarre.
April 12, 2010 10:10 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
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Oh I agree. I dont think most designer care that much about their customers. It's all fake. they just want your money so of course they are going to be super nice to you.
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I don't want or need anything other than good CS from a designer.
I agree that many scrappers seem to have some bizarre need to feel like they're "friends" of the designer.
Amanda? You are kidding, right? She pumps out weekly products at SA all the time, why would she bitch about pumping out product? Not to mention, she's been at SA for two years if not more. Some people just don't think enough.
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She didn't pump out products when at SSD. She didn't sell CU when she was there either. I think she found her groove at SA. She rarely makes kit any longer.
She didn't like it there was the rumor.
The poster that was "trash talking" and saying they were a former designer at SSD later said that they didn't actually leave in the past year. And they only said that to protect their reputation.
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True, but I doubt it's Amanda. Could be Bree. She has a really nasty side to her.
She claimed that she had no reason to lie. So how could it be Bree if the designer is successfully selling in another store?
Or she's just lying.
Was this kit made with the same CU stuff that caused the problems with the SSD pirate?
Wondering...
http://thedailydigi.com/in-the-designers-studio-with-danielle-corbitt/
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It's entirely different from the CU one.
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