Not all designers want to make a huge scene when they leave a store. Even if they didn't get paid. They want to keep their name out of blogs like this. Especially if they want to move on and be successful elsewhere.
But yes, it is very true that many SPD designers did not get paid. And yes, its true that Laura's excuse was that the money was diverted/stolen.
OMG How nostalgic! This is where the digi begun 5-6 years ago. I remember paying 5 to 7 $ for some of those kits and scrapping my first pages with them. No way they are made in China. It's genuine digital art without any CU fluff. Most of the digi kits looked much worse back then. So why not sell those lovely antiquities for a fair price.
My personal digi shocker right now is stufftoscrap.com whose fugly ass products stick like a sore thumb in every single enabling thread.
OMG How nostalgic! This is where the digi begun 5-6 years ago. I remember paying 5 to 7 $ for some of those kits and scrapping my first pages with them. No way they are made in China. It's genuine digital art without any CU fluff. -----------
I agree with your sentiments but I don't ever remember any kits, unless they were collabs, being $5 to $7 way back in the days you are talking about.
I don't know anything about warnings but the new designers are: DesignbyGinger Marta van Eck MaryPop Designs Mystique Designs Seni Designs Shayarka Designs StarLight Designs The new people feel sorry for the shop owner because some people left and took a lot of the designers and CT people with them. The new designers must believe her story that the money was stolen (I guess).
I agree with your sentiments but I don't ever remember any kits, unless they were collabs, being $5 to $7 way back in the days you are talking about.
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I went through CDs with my oldest digi purchases. None of the kit previews had a price tag on it, so I don't have anything to back this up. But designers like Ronna Penner, Mo Jackson, Digital Bits (don't remember her real name) always had higher price range. Designer Digitals have never been a thrift place either and they still sell those oldies for the whopping $6. One example http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/663
Well, just for those who haven't been reading this forum for the past two years, funds don't "disappear" on their way to paypal. We have heard these lame excuses before and I just wish designers would educate themselves and stop being so gullible.
If paypal is the given mode of shopping cart, then paypal is the processor, receiver and bank for any purchase at a shop using paypal to process payments. The Zencart or shop is linked and after paypal accepts the payment, it gives back code to the store that allows it to release the links for download. The money however never leaves paypal.
So, the owner outright lied to everyone when she said the money disappeared on its way to paypal. Can't happen. Now, paypal accounts can be hacked and if the owner has a debit card linked to the paypal account and she used it anywhere to buy anything, then that card could have been stolen and someone used it to clean out the store account. I know several people who have had this happen and not just to paypal debit cards, but debit cards for regular banks. But money just doesn't disappear.
File charges with the local DA where she lives. Get some balls and get involved. This is your money and she has lied. Force her to prove where your money is.
OMG How nostalgic! This is where the digi begun 5-6 years ago. I remember paying 5 to 7 $ for some of those kits and scrapping my first pages with them. No way they are made in China. It's genuine digital art without any CU fluff. ______________________________ Well, I agree but it's also very, very simple. Just like with any technology, digiscrapping has become more complex due to better applications, higher resolution cameras and scanners that produce stunning results for optimal extraction. True designers have become 1000 times more complex with their skills. I remember paying anywhere from 4-7 for kits back in 2003 and 2004 and I still have them. I open them up sometimes and even though they were really neat at the time, they are very, very noobie and 50% of the stuff has flaws, such as bad blending, stray pixels or is really blurry close up. I just opened up a really neat alpha from an old SBB designer (I have no clue if she's still designing today) and it's a really neat hanging alpha off of a tied bow, obviously hand made digitally but every piece has stray pixels because she made one and duplicated it for every letter. The "bow" is nothing more than a rectangle of the length of ribbon cut off and made into an "x" where the letter hangs. The alpha is nothing more than an oval with a bevel added and a flat, black letter created with a font on top. No shadows, no textures.
At the time, I remember thinking how absolutely neat it was and amazed at how she could have created it. LOL Nostalgic, yes. Would I buy it today? No way. I wouldn't download it as a freebie.
If I remember correctly, I could buy 5 or 6 things for $20 back in the day. Good products - and I believe the average was about $3.50. I remember being thrilled that I could get so much for under $5 that it was easy to spend $20.
$6 and $7 kits were nearly unheard of 4 or 5 years ago when I first discovered digi. And, back then it was all digital - except for the patterns some used for their papers. You were able to go from store to store and buy products that were different. Now, the price has doubled and its seems to be all the same.
@ 8:16-- damn, just bought a loaf a bread too. I was gonna copy the tabbie thing and they beat me to it. guess i'll go dismantle the car and see what i can extract..shocks, spark plugs!!!
Am I the only one who sees some weird creature in this OCEAN kit? http://mylifeandscrap.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_134&products_id=2155
Wow! Some great links today -- got a nice chuckle out of all of them! I noticed the "frenchgirl" who has the CU miscellany, aka household junk, at DSW is a "DSW Junior" which I thought was hilarious -- I think it must be their code for "Caveat Emptor"
Am I the only one who sees some weird creature in this OCEAN kit? http://mylifeandscrap.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_134&products_id=2155 July 18, 2010 12:23 PM
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Oh God, not another "Americo's recoloured templates" kit...
At the time, I remember thinking how absolutely neat it was and amazed at how she could have created it. LOL Nostalgic, yes. Would I buy it today? No way. I wouldn't download it as a freebie
Good gosh I wouldn't even want to look at my first kits. Barf, gag, awful, awful awful and to think I even sold some. You are right on with your assessment.
Designer Digitals have never been a thrift place either and they still sell those oldies for the whopping $6. One example http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/663
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That is not only really bad, it's over priced. I wouldn't pick it up as a freebie. I wouldn't have picked it up way back in the day either.
Am I the only one who sees some weird creature in this OCEAN kit? http://mylifeandscrap.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_134&products_id=2155 July 18, 2010 12:23 PM ----------
The cartoon fish don't go together at all. And the sun looks like it's tossing it's cookies.
Then I probably never bought from you way back in the day. Five years ago there were so many regular kits priced at $3.99 or even $4.99, that I would never have bought a kit for $6.
Divine Digital is still not back up. Guess she was smart to say "around July 15" because she's a week behind. I'm thinking their Christmas in July isn't going to happen, since there's no store..
Okay I know she said "If it bothers you, please ignore this thread." But isn't it enough already? Why do some people need to label themselves (and others) so much?!? July 17, 2010 12:35 PM
------------ "That got me thinking about art vs. craft, and what digital scrapbooking really is. Is it art? Is it Craft? Is it Design? Is it Decorating? Is it a hobby, or something more?"
^^^ That got me thinking that moron has way too much time on her hands. And have you checked out her *gallery*? No wonder she spends so much time trying to figure out what to call what she does, I could help with that I call it crap. She takes a texture, some ugly colors and blends it all together and calls it a layout.
I actually like her gallery. At least her layouts aren't overloaded with crap elements, or not enough elements, or too much white space, or not enough white space, or too fantasy, or not fantasy enough or extracted babies.
I actually like her gallery. At least her layouts aren't overloaded with crap elements, or not enough elements, or too much white space, or not enough white space, or too fantasy, or not fantasy enough or extracted babies.
But a lot of her posts drive me batty.
July 20, 2010 12:08 AM
Ditto! I think she's very creative. But she seems to like hearing herself talk way too much...
Hasn't been announced but I can assume Holly and Lizzy are going there... Lizzy aka Fizzy Pop said she would be back in Aug. - she is also the first one to post on their facebook page... The facebook page was just created and as of last night had over 150 fans already...
Is anyone familiar with Miss Behaving's classes? This one looks interesting but I already get Scrappers Guide videos and don't know if the Pen Tool class would be worthwhile. http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Miss-Behaving-Workshops-Pen-Tool.html
Is anyone familiar with Miss Behaving's classes? This one looks interesting but I already get Scrappers Guide videos and don't know if the Pen Tool class would be worthwhile. http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Miss-Behaving-Workshops-Pen-Tool.html
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Not familiar, but I wouldn't sign up for a class that is not ready yet. She shouldn't put it up for "sale" until she's got everything finished. Amanda Dykan did that with her Bud Club--sold memberships and didn't have anything in the tutorial area.
wv: suctin--I wouldn't get suct in to signing up for this class..
Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"? _________________ I think I just peed a little. LOL What a joke.
It's not just as ugly as a 14 year old's myspace page but it's probably run by one, or at least that's the way her crybaby "poor me" post makes her sound.
Oh great another scrapbook store-just what we need. I honestly can't think that most of these new stores are doing much business. I mean really how long can this go on before everything implodes. New Stores More Designers Shaking head!!
Is anyone familiar with Miss Behaving's classes? This one looks interesting but I already get Scrappers Guide videos and don't know if the Pen Tool class would be worthwhile. http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Miss-Behaving-Workshops-Pen-Tool.html ---------------
I would recommend them! I saw a video tutorial of hers on extracting images using the lasso tool and it was excellent.
It's not just as ugly as a 14 year old's myspace page but it's probably run by one, or at least that's the way her crybaby "poor me" post makes her sound.
July 20, 2010 5:22 PM --------------
Her reply didn't make her sound like a cry baby at all. She didn't defend herself or carry on. She just explained that she was taken in. Live and learn.
Boohoo! poor owner! You get what you deserve, getting in business with MsCora who has been pirating for years and multiple times. And WTF about Bee creation? Didn't she just confess that she pirated that couch herself? Since when can you buy an element from another store and include it in a CU pack? All products at digiscrapbooking.ch are pirated anyway. The girls there just extract any photos from internet and sell them as CU. So, Bee creation is a pirate, MsCora is a pirate, digiscrapbboking.ch is a pirate store. You all get what you deserve, don't cry about it.
Her reply didn't make her sound like a cry baby at all. She didn't defend herself or carry on. She just explained that she was taken in. Live and learn. _____________ See, if you were running a real business with the education and intelligence on how to actually run a real business and deal with customers the appropriate way, you would privately email the customers who purchased that product with a coupon and a very brief, yet sincere, apology and move on.
You don't make a public post on your company's website crying about how someone 'took you in'. She wasn't taken in, she was a fool for knowingly doing business with a pirate. Makes me want to run right over there and spend my cash right now. *rolls eyes*
That site, site owner and post is a textbook example of how not to conduct your business.
Her reply didn't make her sound like a cry baby at all. She didn't defend herself or carry on. She just explained that she was taken in. Live and learn. _____________ See, if you were running a real business with the education and intelligence on how to actually run a real business and deal with customers the appropriate way, you would privately email the customers who purchased that product with a coupon and a very brief, yet sincere, apology and move on.
You don't make a public post on your company's website crying about how someone 'took you in'. She wasn't taken in, she was a fool for knowingly doing business with a pirate. Makes me want to run right over there and spend my cash right now. *rolls eyes*
That site, site owner and post is a textbook example of how not to conduct your business.
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I disagree. That owner did the community a favor by telling us. She didn't have to do that, and then this could have happened to someone else. I commend her for her honesty. I also think it's unfair to call her a fool for giving the pirate a second chance. Now if it were a third chance, absolutely!
Oh great another scrapbook store-just what we need. I honestly can't think that most of these new stores are doing much business. I mean really how long can this go on before everything implodes. New Stores More Designers Shaking head!!
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I predict that once the US economy starts to pick up people will realise they are kicking a dead horse and that there are easier ways to make money.
That site, site owner and post is a textbook example of how not to conduct your business.
July 20, 2010 7:06 PM
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I guess then every site that has done the same thing and made similar public announcements are also fools.
The thing that I don't understand is that if the site doesn't make a public announcement, they are slammed. If they do make a public announcement, they are slammed.
The thing that I don't understand is that if the site doesn't make a public announcement, they are slammed. If they do make a public announcement, they are slammed. ----------------------------- I don't understand what you don't understand. The purpose of a smack blog is to slam everyone. So it seems we are right on track here.
To the Miss Behaving OP: I saw that Pen class, too, and I've never heard of her either, but I don't like the name Miss Behaving. It sounds cheesy, so I figured her class might be, too.
You can get a whole Photoshop (or Illustrator) class for only $15.00 - half price in July - from Andrea Gold at Go Digital http://www.godigitalscrapbooking.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=62
I have never taken a class from Andrea Gold, either, and I wish I had asked here first, but I didn't. I signed up for the Illustrator class a couple days ago.
I guess then every site that has done the same thing and made similar public announcements are also fools. ___________ Yes, they are. Especially admitting to knowingly working with and taking in a known pirate.
And to whoever came in from over there: I'd rather be a catty bitch than an idiot.
People DO change. There are several in the digi world that were taken back into the fold after admitting to their "sins" and promising it would never happen again. Some people believe in giving people a 2nd chance; I don't think that makes them idiots. They are however, tolerant & forgiving. The real shame here is that they are taken in by the individual AND THEN slammed by others around them for giving said person a 2nd chance.
Anyway, I only have one question about the store. Why do they all have to have such ugly siggies? -----------------------------------------------
Seriously? I can't even begin to count how many UGLY kits there are out there! However, I'm sure that some people think the very same kits are "cute." Beauty is in the eye of the beholder people - get a grip! LOL I'm not a "tagger" but I've seen some tags that are quite pretty and have thought to myself that it would have been a pretty layout. Artistry comes in all flavors; you don't have to love everything you see but at least show some respect to those that create what they love.
"Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"?" -----------------------------------
So now designers are responsible for how an owner designs her site? And anyway, who cares what it looks like? I don't shop in stores just because I may like the site's design - I shop in a store if I like the designers designs!!
I'm not really sure why there's people so upset about the smacking going on here. Blame the person who made it public in the first place, not this blog. (See the acting professionally post above.) If the issue had been taken care of privately, we'd be talking about some other pointless thing. That's what we do here. ;)
As far as that store's reputation goes, well, she knew this Cora chick was a pirate. How many other designers in the store did she take using that forgiving, second chance that we don't know about? Is it only a matter of time before you (generally speaking) see your designs being resold? What is the owner's answer to that?
July 21, 2010 9:12 AM, I see your point about beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm glad you create what you love. I just didn't like those and maybe I shouldn't have said it. I apologise. :-)
About all the classes for the pen tool and Illustrator. If anyone is worried about them or questioning them I say take a look on the net!
A simple Google search will lead you to some very, very good tuts, most if not all, for free. Lynda.com is a great place for all tuts. Might cost a bit more but very professional and you will learn your software.
I would say that if the "money was mysteriously diverted" that the owner STILL owes the money to the designers. It is not their fault if the owner couldn't keep her site secure. (but I highly doubt the money went anywhere except maybe the owner's alternate paypal account.)
If I was a designer there, I would be demanding my money, as promised in the store contract. AND contacting both the web-host and Paypal to let them know about the fraud. AND contacting an attorney. AND sending a very strongly worded letter to the owner, with a firm deadline for receiving my pay, before I filed charges and initiated small claims court proceedings. And possibly filing a lien on the owner's personal property.
Designers have gotten ripped off way too many times by unscrupulous store-owners, and they need to start DOING something about it, or it will just continue!
Actually I took one of Miss Behaving's courses at Deviant Scrap. I found it actually helped me with my shadows. I hadn't heard of her before, I just happened to be looking for Holliewoods Studios and found she moved to that store and then saw the advertisement. Figure what the heck, what's $20. Glad I did, course material was easy to understand and I think my shadowing is alot more realistic. I'm sure there are free ones online but I'm too lazy to search. lol
Anyway, I only have one question about the store. Why do they all have to have such ugly siggies? -----------------------------------------------
Seriously? I can't even begin to count how many UGLY kits there are out there! However, I'm sure that some people think the very same kits are "cute." Beauty is in the eye of the beholder people - get a grip! LOL I'm not a "tagger" but I've seen some tags that are quite pretty and have thought to myself that it would have been a pretty layout. Artistry comes in all flavors; you don't have to love everything you see but at least show some respect to those that create what they love. --------------------------------
Yeah, a siggie of a half dressed woman with her panties hanging half way down her calf makes for a lovely layout.
In my opinion they're not so much ugly as they are distasteful and not very business like (regarding the siggie in the post from the shop owner at Sophisti-scraps )..well, of course unless you happen to be designing kits for Hustler or Playboy.
Yeah, a siggie of a half dressed woman with her panties hanging half way down her calf makes for a lovely layout. ----
I realize that you live in a box and think the entire world revolves around you and your little scrapping hobby, but you really need to take off your blinkers and realize that the graphics design industry is HUGE and not everything that is made is designed to be used in a scrapbooking LO. Pinups have been around for a long long time and take far more talent to draw than it took you to steal an image off the net and pretend it's yours.
Half the tags I've seen are with images stolen from off the net. They weren't drawn by hand at all. --
Wrong! Most are made using legally purchased artwork from various artists, from sites like http://www.mypsptubes.com/. But please, don't let me stop you from making up utter bullshit and defaming other peoples characters etc. It's obvious you are a talentless, bitter troll, with two much time on your hands.
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/ ---------- Here are 15 Designers that will be there. Well at least their user names on their forum:
Damayanti Amy Rose By Becca Emi Erika T. Holly Designs - Owner Kasia Kelley Mickus Fizzy Pop - Manager marlies OlgaUnger palvinka Tracey Monette Vera Lim Emily Ann Designs
I just can't see the allure of looking at a site full of half dressed women. Tags with pictures of yourself or your kid, I can see that. But I just can't figure out why other females would contribute to the degrading attitude that the only thing important about women is some over inflated, eating disorder, fake hair, fake make up, fake everything idea of sexuality. Have some respect for yourselves.
Wrong! Most are made using legally purchased artwork from various artists, from sites like http://www.mypsptubes.com/. But please, don't let me stop you from making up utter bullshit and defaming other peoples characters etc. It's obvious you are a talentless, bitter troll, with two much time on your hands.
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Obvious? I used to be a tagger.
You slammed all scrappers, assuming they all stole images from off the net and claimed them as their own. All I did was point out that quite a few of the tags I had seen had stolen images. This makes me a bitter, talentless troll? Babe, I don't think so.
What, they don't have giant tits? Is that not a correct assessment of the cartoon women portrayed in these tags?
July 21, 2010 8:13 PM ----------
A lot of tags do not have giant boobs in them. It's your assumption that all tags do that prompted me to post the word moron. However, that was too harsh an assessment, I'm sorry.
Actually no, I slammed you. Most scrappers are lovely people who just create what they love creating, not spend time putting people down on a smack blog. As for being a tagger, do you think you're better than other taggers now you've discovered scrapping huh? Well, I don't see the taggers creating blogs just to run down scrappers.
I still think you're a talentless, bitter troll, but I've said my piece, I know you'll continue with your slander because people like you need it to feel good about yourself.
As for being a tagger, do you think you're better than other taggers now you've discovered scrapping huh? Well, I don't see the taggers creating blogs just to run down scrappers.
I still think you're a talentless, bitter troll, but I've said my piece, I know you'll continue with your slander because people like you need it to feel good about yourself.
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Where did I slander anyone? I didn't even slander you, you are the one name calling, so I guess you are the one that needs to feel good about yourself. I never said I was better, I was pointing out that SOME taggers DO STEAL images. It's the truth, and if you think it's not, then you are sticking your head in the sand.
PS: I have seen blogs by taggers just to run down scrappers.
Actually no, I slammed you. Most scrappers are lovely people who just create what they love creating, not spend time putting people down on a smack blog. -------
Yeah, a siggie of a half dressed woman with her panties hanging half way down her calf makes for a lovely layout. ----
Oi, Miss who likes to call me a troll?
See that comment? I never made that and yet you keep slamming me for it and calling me names. Is that fair? I didn't call you a name, I was tempted, but I didn't.
If you didn't make the comment why act like you did. As for calling me names, go right ahead, I'm not going to have a big wah wah about it.
Unlike you I didn't even know this trashy blog existed until yesterday, I just came here because you and your ilk were slamming a lady who does not deserve it in any way possible. If you don't want people to get pissed at you and call you names, try to be a bit nicer. We reap what we sew.
I never slammed anyone. Do you see the positive comments here about taggers? Do you see the positive comment about the store owner and her attitude? I made that too.
Feel stupid now for assuming things? You should if you don't.
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/ ---------- Here are 15 Designers that will be there. Well at least their user names on their forum:
Damayanti Amy Rose By Becca Emi Erika T. Holly Designs - Owner Kasia Kelley Mickus Fizzy Pop - Manager marlies OlgaUnger palvinka Tracey Monette Vera Lim Emily Ann Designs
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I see only about 6 names listed as members. Where did you see all those names? Can anyone register there yet?
Well how else are they going to sell unless they have a pack of rabid CT members? I'm so tired of the CT concept. **************** A pack of RABID CT members? Really? Now what exactly does that MEAN?
If you click on a person's profile then veiw their friends you can see who has what title unnder their name. By Becca has pretty much every designer as her friend.
But I just checked and obviously someone is reading here and ran and told the list got leaked because they have disabled the Veiw Members link lol.
From what I saw before they have the same ol', same ol' CT members. Pretty much all of them are from Shabby Pickle or the so called "Popular" Scrappers.
Yeah, a siggie of a half dressed woman with her panties hanging half way down her calf makes for a lovely layout.
In my opinion they're not so much ugly as they are distasteful and not very business like (regarding the siggie in the post from the shop owner at Sophisti-scraps )..well, of course unless you happen to be designing kits for Hustler or Playboy.
************************* Hustler or Playboy? Are you Amish? Or just close-minded and ignorant?
Scrap kits have plenty of uses beyond making layouts. Imagine that, a purpose for something you didn't think of. You might have known had you dared to venture out from under your rock.
You might even know women have boobs. Been to the beach lately? Seen a movie? Ever looked at yourself naked in the bathroom mirror? Ok, let's not push it, but at least get a grip and join the 21st century.
Nudity has been artistically celebrated since the beginning of time. Are the paintings in a museum distasteful? Maybe it's your taste and tolerance that need to be adjusted. Along with your sense of humor.
^^^^ You don't have to be Amish to think it is tasteless to objectify women. If those women find value in presenting themselves as slut-puppies more power to them but I personally think women have much more worth than that.
Slut-puppies? LOL! That's funny. I'm sorry you see it that way. I see it as celebrating the female form and embracing all that we are, intelligent, playful, sensual beings who aren't afraid to explore our nature...or laugh at ourselves.
All those kids you're making layouts for had to come from somewhere. ;)
This will be my first and likely only post on the topic of the signature tags.
I believe women can be sensual and sexual without objectifying themselves. Women as they truly are can be quite beautiful, however encouraging unrealistic images of women scantily clad is distasteful in my opinion. As a customer I would not shop at any store or with any designer who put such items in their signature tags. (and no I am not fat, jealous, religious, pearl-clutching, etc. so save the posts with those responses)
Slut-puppies? LOL! That's funny. I'm sorry you see it that way. I see it as celebrating the female form and embracing all that we are, intelligent, playful, sensual beings who aren't afraid to explore our nature...or laugh at ourselves.
All those kids you're making layouts for had to come from somewhere. ;)
July 22, 2010 3:02 PM
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OMG! You are such a disgusting slut. Seriously? you think unrealistic big boobies are a way to celebrate the woman body? Then go work in porn instead of scrapbooking,you'll earn a LOT more money and you'll be able to express yourself as a playful sensual being.
Additionally, I don't understand how a signature tag would (or should) affect how you perceive someone's designs. What if the store didn't have a forum? You would judge the designs based solely on their merit, not be judging the designer herself.
Which is precisely the problem with people like you. You just can't seem to help yourselves.
I believe women can be sensual and sexual without objectifying themselves. Women as they truly are can be quite beautiful, however encouraging unrealistic images of women scantily clad is distasteful in my opinion. _______________________________
Well said! It is bad enough when the pornography industry and advertising industry objectify women. It is just sad when women do it to themselves.
I'd rather see a pair of boobs than a bunch of no life housewives smacking each other on a stupid blog. You may think you're holier than thou, but in reality you're just bored and get off on slamming people for nothing. Quite sad really, maybe some of you need to; I dunno, get a real job?
Additionally, I don't understand how a signature tag would (or should) affect how you perceive someone's designs. What if the store didn't have a forum? You would judge the designs based solely on their merit, not be judging the designer herself.
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I agree ...I think that's a huge problem with this industry, too many people feel the need to "know" who designs the stuff they scrap with.
I think this industry would be alot more drama free if it were more "faceless".
When I was a paper scrapper, I didn't feel the need to know who designed my paper supplies. I just bought what I liked.
4:12, thank you for the best laugh I've had yet! I'm flattered you think I'm a designer - and a disgusting slut! How fun would that be?
Unfortunately, I am neither. I'm an old married lady who thinks age is just a number and it happens to be fun to express the various parts of my personality with signature tags.
I also think it isn't particularly nice or healthy to sit in judgment of people I don't know, especially when the product they're selling has nothing to do with their morality - or what I think their morality should be.
So, if the forum tags bothered me, I wouldn't go to the forum. I wouldn't elect not to purchase a beautiful design for my scrapbook pages simply because I thought the designer was a hedonist, or her politics were different than mine, etc. The designer herself isn't going into the scrapbook with my family memories.
Surprise, this old, disgusting slut has one of those too. :)
I just bought what I liked. ________ Exactly. But how many regular paper scrapbook supplies come with naked women on the package advertising that product? LOL Wouldn't that be funny! I might buy it if it showed a hot, naked, buff stud.
Just out of curiousity ... if there was a store that sold high quality, original kits, free of any commercial use products, would you shop there? -------------------------------- Yes!
...But I just can't figure out why other females would contribute to the degrading attitude that the only thing important about women is some over inflated, eating disorder, fake hair, fake make up, fake everything idea of sexuality. Have some respect for yourselves. ----- Did you tell your mother not to buy you a Barbie? Or your daughter why you wouldn't buy one for her?
You might even know women have boobs. Been to the beach lately? Seen a movie? Ever looked at yourself naked in the bathroom mirror? Ok, let's not push it, but at least get a grip and join the 21st century.
Nudity has been artistically celebrated since the beginning of time. Are the paintings in a museum distasteful? Maybe it's your taste and tolerance that need to be adjusted. Along with your sense of humor.
July 22, 2010 12:54 PM
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There's artistic and tasteful nudes and the there is what's in most of those taggers sigs. It's not tasteful in the least. It is like Hustler and Playboy. It's not even close to the Pinups of the 40s, 50s and 60s, which are adorable. They have an innocence and playfulness.
Maybe you should adjust your tolerance levels and realize that because some object to the near nudity displayed in those tags, it doesn't make them prudes.
Exactly. But how many regular paper scrapbook supplies come with naked women on the package advertising that product? LOL Wouldn't that be funny! I might buy it if it showed a hot, naked, buff stud.
July 22, 2010 5:16 PM ----------
How many digital scrapbook supplies come with naked women on the package? Uh, barely any. I would buy it even less if it was a naked stud, erk.
Actually, I know a lot of mothers who refuse to buy Barbies, Bratz etc solely for those reasons. ---
They probably tell their children that sex is dirty as well. I'm glad I had a normal mother. People with that many hangups shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"? *************************************
I'm one of the nobodies that sells at that store and I can tell you that despite what you say about the store and the owner, I regularly make around $800 a month from there, which I'm quite happy with.
Not only that, the other ladies are really nice and supportive, there is no bitchiness and backstabbing like I've found at other stores. The owner is friendly, approachable, and professional. I've been paid on time, and the full amount every two weeks without fail and if I have to contact the owner about any problems she always answers and tries to help. She'll even do things for you to really save you time and stress.
So you can say what you like about the store, I'm proud I was invited to sell there.
There's artistic and tasteful nudes and the there is what's in most of those taggers sigs. It's not tasteful in the least. It is like Hustler and Playboy. It's not even close to the Pinups of the 40s, 50s and 60s, which are adorable. They have an innocence and playfulness.
Maybe you should adjust your tolerance levels and realize that because some object to the near nudity displayed in those tags, it doesn't make them prudes. ----- While you would like us to think how precisely you grasp the situation, you have entirely missed the point.
Pinups of the 40's, 50's and 60's weren't innocent to the people of those times. I doubt many people thought Betty Page or Marilyn Monroe were innocent.
Even that isn't the point. The point is, as someone above said about kits, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Dictating what taste and morality should be to others is a dangerous - and rather hypocritical - practice.
They probably tell their children that sex is dirty as well. I'm glad I had a normal mother. People with that many hangups shouldn't be allowed to breed.
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No, they don't, actually. What a judgmental person you are.
Even that isn't the point. The point is, as someone above said about kits, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Dictating what taste and morality should be to others is a dangerous - and rather hypocritical - practice.
July 22, 2010 6:43 PM
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I find this hypocritical if you are the person who was asking about one of the posts being Amish or a garden variety prude? Aren't you the one dictating to others in that case?
They probably tell their children that sex is dirty as well. I'm glad I had a normal mother. People with that many hangups shouldn't be allowed to breed.
July 22, 2010 6:28 PM ------------
I hope you followed your own advice then, and didn't breed.
No, they don't, actually. What a judgmental person you are. ---
Yes you do, and I feel sorry for your kids having a mom like you. Oh, and someone who frequents a smack blog calling others judgemental is possibly the funniest thing I've seen in a while. You're not very bright are you.
I hope you followed your own advice then, and didn't breed. --- Obviously that was the best comeback your tiny little brain could think of. I'm trading lame insults with a pack of imbeciles.
I actually understand what she's trying to say. She's not been snarky or stupid.
July 18, 2010 6:04 PM _______________________________
I realize this is an old post, but I just saw it and at the risk of boring everyone, had to respond.
She actually is being stupid. Who the hell is 'they'? The government or the market place? The government (also known as we the taxpayers) hand out the unemployement checks; the market (also known as business) makes the jobs. They are not the same. Granted - governments do employ thousands of people at the county, state and federal level but 'they' are not supposed to be in the business (no pun intended) of creating enough jobs to keep the nation employed. If that day ever comes - then we can rename the USA to the USSR (old commie Russia).
The marke creates jobs. We're in a recession - less demand - fewer jobs.
I realize this is an old post, but I just saw it and at the risk of boring everyone, had to respond.
She actually is being stupid. Who the hell is 'they'? The government or the market place? The government (also known as we the taxpayers) hand out the unemployement checks; the market (also known as business) makes the jobs. They are not the same. Granted - governments do employ thousands of people at the county, state and federal level but 'they' are not supposed to be in the business (no pun intended) of creating enough jobs to keep the nation employed. If that day ever comes - then we can rename the USA to the USSR (old commie Russia).
The marke creates jobs. We're in a recession - less demand - fewer jobs.
Did you tell your mother not to buy you a Barbie? Or your daughter why you wouldn't buy one for her?
Right, that's what I thought.
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Actually, no my daughter does not have Barbie. She's still too young to really discuss sexuality, but I have no plans to teach her it's dirty or wrong. On the other hand, I have no intention of teaching her that she needs to dress provocatively or allow people to objectify her to be successful. I'd like her to know that she can be healthy and happy in the body she has instead of constantly striving to be Heidi Montag. There is nothing attractive about the women in those tags. They are not a celebration of what is beautiful and sensual about a woman. They are just more images that continually pound into woman that looking normal is not good enough.
I'm one of the nobodies that sells at that store and I can tell you that despite what you say about the store and the owner, I regularly make around $800 a month from there, which I'm quite happy with. ^^^ Yeah, I bet you make your earnings with cybersex. Or perhaps whoever buys your stuff is blind?
July 22, 2010 7:34 PM ^^^ You know, you are NOT being forced to shop at or even look at the new stores. I say bring them on, nothing like a little competition.
Or perhaps whoever buys your stuff is blind? ---- Careful sweetcheeks your burning jealousy is showing. Don't worry, one day you'll be good enough to sell a kit. *flower*
Yes you do, and I feel sorry for your kids having a mom like you --------
I know, I know. I'm a bad mommy. I didn't teach my child to be a fake, big boobed, male fantasy so she could get on in the world. I taught her self respect instead. Sigh. You found me out. Oh the tragedy.
Be honest, you really taught her that having a fugly mom means she doesn't have the genes to be attractive, so she needs to try and rely on her substandard brain since she also inherited your below average IQ and your weight problem as well. Poor kid.
Yes you do, and I feel sorry for your kids having a mom like you. Oh, and someone who frequents a smack blog calling others judgemental is possibly the funniest thing I've seen in a while. You're not very bright are you.
The sad truth is that most men are attracted to women whose bodies closely resemble the 36-24-36 prototype. I read that in a pyschology magazine many years ago. It's prgrammed in the genes.
The sad truth is that most men are attracted to women whose bodies closely resemble the 36-24-36 prototype. I read that in a pyschology magazine many years ago. It's prgrammed in the genes.
July 22, 2010 10:20 PM
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That's a normal/average figure actually, so I don't see what's wrong with that.
Women, in fact, are their own worst enemies and they are never satisfied with themselves.
Be honest, you really taught her that having a fugly mom means she doesn't have the genes to be attractive, so she needs to try and rely on her substandard brain since she also inherited your below average IQ and your weight problem as well. Poor kid.
July 22, 2010 9:37 PM
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If you are so superior, what are you doing here? I hear Mensa calling. Go on, run and take that call, you'll be glad you did.
I've been a Mensa member for 8 years, unlike you, and most of the regs on this blog who are obviously bored housewives with no jobs, no lives, and no morals.
've been a Mensa member for 8 years, unlike you, and most of the regs on this blog who are obviously bored housewives with no jobs, no lives, and no morals.
Your life must truly suck.
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And yet, my dear, you are here.
Yes, we are have no morals because we object to naked women. Hmm, that doesn't make sense. Are you sure you are a member of Mensa, coz you aren't convincing me.
It doesn't take much to impress your tiny little mind does it sweetcheeks.
Your life must suck too.
July 22, 2010 11:49 PM
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How about one reply where you aren't putting me down? C'mon, I know you can do it! If you are so intelligent, you shouldn't have to name call and don't worry about putting it into words I can understand, I have a dictionary.
To smack you low lives yes. You on the other hand frequent this blog because you like to gossip and bitch about designers in the scrapbooking world. That is so bloody sad. You really don't realize how extremely pathetic you are do you, and the comment about your morals has nothing to do with your shame for your body, it has everything to do with you being here in the first place.
To smack you low lives yes. You on the other hand frequent this blog because you like to gossip and bitch about designers in the scrapbooking world. That is so bloody sad. You really don't realize how extremely pathetic you are do you, and the comment about your morals has nothing to do with your shame for your body, it has everything to do with you being here in the first place.
July 23, 2010 12:17 AM -----
Are you happy now? Man, you are one sad little fuck, you know that?
To smack you low lives yes. You on the other hand frequent this blog because you like to gossip and bitch about designers in the scrapbooking world. That is so bloody sad. You really don't realize how extremely pathetic you are do you, and the comment about your morals has nothing to do with your shame for your body, it has everything to do with you being here in the first place. -----
and yet you are still here. You need to stop talking about yourself all the time, it will make you look vain.
Are you happy now? Man, you are one sad little fuck, you know that? ---
You frequent a smack blog to gossip and bitch, and I'm a sad fuck. What a bloody hypocrite. I'll be happy when people like you take your talentless arses away from the scrapping community. You cheapen it.
New Space Please!!! This smak has gotten to the point of ridiculous and to the Mensa member, just because you have a high IQ doesn't mean you have any common sense. Sometimes being so smart is a real crutch to say th least.
To smack you low lives yes. You on the other hand frequent this blog because you like to gossip and bitch about designers in the scrapbooking world. That is so bloody sad. You really don't realize how extremely pathetic you are do you, and the comment about your morals has nothing to do with your shame for your body, it has everything to do with you being here in the first place.
July 23, 2010 12:17 AM ^^^ and yet YOU are here?? seems to me as you are the lowlife needing to make yourself feel so much better and smarter than the rest. you haven't convinced any of us that you are better, only that you are a sad and lonely bitch with no friends.
I frequent this smack blog not because I enjoy making fun of others for no reason, not because I'm a catty bitch (though I can be), but because this is pretty much the only place I've found where people say what they truly feel and you can get some real news... places like DST will not ever say anything bad about anyone and if you even post about a bad customer service experience you get pounced on for not emailing the designer personally. Sometimes it's good to bring some things to public attention, and if it takes anonymity for that, so be it.
And I apologize for making the 14 year old Myspace thing comment... it was nothing about the store's design but really only about the owner's bling bling naked sigs, to me it really does look like everything I hate about Myspace, that's my honest opinion, it's gaudy as hell to me. I guess I could have kept that to myself though.
I wouldn't elect not to purchase a beautiful design for my scrapbook pages simply because I thought the designer was a hedonist, or her politics were different than mine, etc. The designer herself isn't going into the scrapbook with my family memories.
Surprise, this old, disgusting slut has one of those too. :)
July 22, 2010 5:11 PM
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I'm the one who said I would not shop with designers or store owners who encourage what I feel to be an unrealistic image of women. I have two reasons for this.
First, I do not want to support designers and store owners that are even vaguely encouraging eating disorders, objectifying women, and more.
The second is professionalism. The store owner and designers may in fact be wonderful people. I actually do not care one bit about their personal lifestyle. I am not judging them personally at all. I prefer to purchase from and support people that show a show a professional image. Having a scantily clad woman in your signature tag is not professional.
There are hundreds of thousands of beautiful designs that I can spend my money on. I am certainly not missing out on anything by choosing to support designers and stores that show professionalism and do not encourage things that I believe are harmful.
SUN is having a designer call. Since a couple of them actually left there and went to ES, how FUN to you think that work environment is? Nothing like absentee owners and horrid customer service to make your designs shine.
Thank you for your correspondence. We want you to know that we appreciate the time you took to bring this matter to our attention. We protect our intellectual property rights vigorously and we take reports of suspected infringement seriously. However, as you can appreciate, investigations are confidential.We neither reveal our sources nor generally correspond further with them about any investigations.
Please feel free to use our email address tips@disneyantipiracy.com or our Anti-piracy voice mail hot line, 818-560-3300, if you want to provide more information about the suspected infringement or to report a suspected infringement in the future.
Very truly yours,
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The Walt Disney Company 500 South Buena Vista Street Burbank, CA 91521-0527
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1657 Newer› Newest»I can't find it in the forums at SPD.
Anyone can come here and say they are a designer somewhere.
I wish you could link me up to the thread in the forums at SPD.
Not all designers want to make a huge scene when they leave a store. Even if they didn't get paid. They want to keep their name out of blogs like this. Especially if they want to move on and be successful elsewhere.
But yes, it is very true that many SPD designers did not get paid. And yes, its true that Laura's excuse was that the money was diverted/stolen.
The problem with wanting to keep your name out of anything is that new designers go into the store with eyes closed. Is that fair?
http://scrap99.com/digital-scrapbooking/home.php
OMG How nostalgic! This is where the digi begun 5-6 years ago. I remember paying 5 to 7 $ for some of those kits and scrapping my first pages with them. No way they are made in China. It's genuine digital art without any CU fluff.
Most of the digi kits looked much worse back then.
So why not sell those lovely antiquities for a fair price.
My personal digi shocker right now is stufftoscrap.com whose fugly ass products stick like a sore thumb in every single enabling thread.
The problem with wanting to keep your name out of anything is that new designers go into the store with eyes closed. Is that fair?
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Some were warned and obviously didn't care. Is that stupid?
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There are only two new designers at SPD since June, so, who the 'some' that were warned?
OMG How nostalgic! This is where the digi begun 5-6 years ago. I remember paying 5 to 7 $ for some of those kits and scrapping my first pages with them. No way they are made in China. It's genuine digital art without any CU fluff.
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I agree with your sentiments but I don't ever remember any kits, unless they were collabs, being $5 to $7 way back in the days you are talking about.
There are only two new designers at SPD since June, so, who the 'some' that were warned?
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There's at least a handful of new designers.
I don't know anything about warnings but the new designers are:
DesignbyGinger
Marta van Eck
MaryPop Designs
Mystique Designs
Seni Designs
Shayarka Designs
StarLight Designs
The new people feel sorry for the shop owner because some people left and took a lot of the designers and CT people with them. The new designers must believe her story that the money was stolen (I guess).
I agree with your sentiments but I don't ever remember any kits, unless they were collabs, being $5 to $7 way back in the days you are talking about.
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I went through CDs with my oldest digi purchases. None of the kit previews had a price tag on it, so I don't have anything to back this up. But designers like Ronna Penner, Mo Jackson, Digital Bits (don't remember her real name) always had higher price range. Designer Digitals have never been a thrift place either and they still sell those oldies for the whopping $6. One example
http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/663
Ooops, it should be
http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/663
Well, just for those who haven't been reading this forum for the past two years, funds don't "disappear" on their way to paypal. We have heard these lame excuses before and I just wish designers would educate themselves and stop being so gullible.
If paypal is the given mode of shopping cart, then paypal is the processor, receiver and bank for any purchase at a shop using paypal to process payments. The Zencart or shop is linked and after paypal accepts the payment, it gives back code to the store that allows it to release the links for download. The money however never leaves paypal.
So, the owner outright lied to everyone when she said the money disappeared on its way to paypal. Can't happen. Now, paypal accounts can be hacked and if the owner has a debit card linked to the paypal account and she used it anywhere to buy anything, then that card could have been stolen and someone used it to clean out the store account. I know several people who have had this happen and not just to paypal debit cards, but debit cards for regular banks. But money just doesn't disappear.
File charges with the local DA where she lives. Get some balls and get involved. This is your money and she has lied. Force her to prove where your money is.
Fight back for god's sake - don't just walk away.
OMG How nostalgic! This is where the digi begun 5-6 years ago. I remember paying 5 to 7 $ for some of those kits and scrapping my first pages with them. No way they are made in China. It's genuine digital art without any CU fluff.
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Well, I agree but it's also very, very simple. Just like with any technology, digiscrapping has become more complex due to better applications, higher resolution cameras and scanners that produce stunning results for optimal extraction. True designers have become 1000 times more complex with their skills. I remember paying anywhere from 4-7 for kits back in 2003 and 2004 and I still have them. I open them up sometimes and even though they were really neat at the time, they are very, very noobie and 50% of the stuff has flaws, such as bad blending, stray pixels or is really blurry close up. I just opened up a really neat alpha from an old SBB designer (I have no clue if she's still designing today) and it's a really neat hanging alpha off of a tied bow, obviously hand made digitally but every piece has stray pixels because she made one and duplicated it for every letter. The "bow" is nothing more than a rectangle of the length of ribbon cut off and made into an "x" where the letter hangs. The alpha is nothing more than an oval with a bevel added and a flat, black letter created with a font on top. No shadows, no textures.
At the time, I remember thinking how absolutely neat it was and amazed at how she could have created it. LOL Nostalgic, yes. Would I buy it today? No way. I wouldn't download it as a freebie.
If I remember correctly, I could buy 5 or 6 things for $20 back in the day. Good products - and I believe the average was about $3.50. I remember being thrilled that I could get so much for under $5 that it was easy to spend $20.
$6 and $7 kits were nearly unheard of 4 or 5 years ago when I first discovered digi. And, back then it was all digital - except for the patterns some used for their papers. You were able to go from store to store and buy products that were different. Now, the price has doubled and its seems to be all the same.
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damn, just bought a loaf a bread too. I was gonna copy the tabbie thing and they beat me to it. guess i'll go dismantle the car and see what i can extract..shocks, spark plugs!!!
^^ If you threw in some wires, I'd buy it! Hahahahaha
Am I the only one who sees some weird creature in this OCEAN kit?
http://mylifeandscrap.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_134&products_id=2155
Wow! Some great links today -- got a nice chuckle out of all of them! I noticed the "frenchgirl" who has the CU miscellany, aka household junk, at DSW is a "DSW Junior" which I thought was hilarious -- I think it must be their code for "Caveat Emptor"
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Am I the only one who sees some weird creature in this OCEAN kit?
http://mylifeandscrap.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_134&products_id=2155
July 18, 2010 12:23 PM
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Oh God, not another "Americo's recoloured templates" kit...
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/hot-topics-64/they-serous-247777/#post2525852
if they don't want to give out unemployment funds then make more jobs
Seriously?
I have no comeback for wisdom like that.
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I actually understand what she's trying to say. She's not been snarky or stupid.
Oh God, not another "Americo's recoloured templates" kit...
July 18, 2010 3:30 PM
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Huh?
At the time, I remember thinking how absolutely neat it was and amazed at how she could have created it. LOL Nostalgic, yes. Would I buy it today? No way. I wouldn't download it as a freebie
Good gosh I wouldn't even want to look at my first kits. Barf, gag, awful, awful awful and to think I even sold some. You are right on with your assessment.
Designer Digitals have never been a thrift place either and they still sell those oldies for the whopping $6. One example
http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/663
July 18, 2010 9:45 AM
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That is not only really bad, it's over priced. I wouldn't pick it up as a freebie. I wouldn't have picked it up way back in the day either.
Am I the only one who sees some weird creature in this OCEAN kit?
I see an owl there. Looks like seagulls got a serious competitor for the fish. LMAO
Am I the only one who sees some weird creature in this OCEAN kit?
http://mylifeandscrap.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=4_134&products_id=2155
July 18, 2010 12:23 PM
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The cartoon fish don't go together at all. And the sun looks like it's tossing it's cookies.
I've been selling for over 5 years and I never sold a kit regularly priced less than 6$.
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Then I probably never bought from you way back in the day. Five years ago there were so many regular kits priced at $3.99 or even $4.99, that I would never have bought a kit for $6.
I won't buy a kit unless it's on sale. There's too much free stuff out there and reasonably priced kits from others.
http://www.elementalscraps.com/shoppe/product.php?productid=25158&cat=0&page=1
Anyone know of an alpha like this but by a different designer? I don't know this one and don't want to waste the money if the quality is crap.
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Why not buy it and if the quality sucks ask for your money back? Who knows, you might find a new designer you like!
Divine Digital is still not back up. Guess she was smart to say "around July 15" because she's a week behind. I'm thinking their Christmas in July isn't going to happen, since there's no store..
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/art-craft-247879/
Okay I know she said "If it bothers you, please ignore this thread."
But isn't it enough already? Why do some people need to label themselves (and others) so much?!?
July 17, 2010 12:35 PM
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"That got me thinking about art vs. craft, and what digital scrapbooking really is. Is it art? Is it Craft? Is it Design? Is it Decorating? Is it a hobby, or something more?"
WHO CARES!
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That got me thinking that moron has way too much time on her hands. And have you checked out her *gallery*? No wonder she spends so much time trying to figure out what to call what she does, I could help with that I call it crap. She takes a texture, some ugly colors and blends it all together and calls it a layout.
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I actually like her gallery. At least her layouts aren't overloaded with crap elements, or not enough elements, or too much white space, or not enough white space, or too fantasy, or not fantasy enough or extracted babies.
But a lot of her posts drive me batty.
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
July 19, 2010 10:12 PM
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Oh wow, just what we need! Another hot and happening place that is going to die in about two months, just like all the rest.
I actually like her gallery. At least her layouts aren't overloaded with crap elements, or not enough elements, or too much white space, or not enough white space, or too fantasy, or not fantasy enough or extracted babies.
But a lot of her posts drive me batty.
July 20, 2010 12:08 AM
Ditto! I think she's very creative. But she seems to like hearing herself talk way too much...
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The reason most of her posts drive me batty is because it's just a rehash of something else.
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
July 19, 2010 10:12 PM
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Exactly which designers are going there?
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
July 19, 2010 10:12 PM
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Exactly which designers are going there?
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Hasn't been announced but I can assume Holly and Lizzy are going there...
Lizzy aka Fizzy Pop said she would be back in Aug. - she is also the first one to post on their facebook page...
The facebook page was just created and as of last night had over 150 fans already...
Is anyone familiar with Miss Behaving's classes? This one looks interesting but I already get Scrappers Guide videos and don't know if the Pen Tool class would be worthwhile.
http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Miss-Behaving-Workshops-Pen-Tool.html
I just found some new digi drama! Another pirate has been outed ... lol The owner has written a long post about it in her forum.
http://sophisti-scraps.com/forum/showthread.php?330-A-Sad-Sophisti-Day
I just found some new digi drama! Another pirate has been outed ... lol The owner has written a long post about it in her forum.
http://sophisti-scraps.com/forum/showthread.php?330-A-Sad-Sophisti-Day
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Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"?
Is anyone familiar with Miss Behaving's classes? This one looks interesting but I already get Scrappers Guide videos and don't know if the Pen Tool class would be worthwhile.
http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Miss-Behaving-Workshops-Pen-Tool.html
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Not familiar, but I wouldn't sign up for a class that is not ready yet. She shouldn't put it up for "sale" until she's got everything finished. Amanda Dykan did that with her Bud Club--sold memberships and didn't have anything in the tutorial area.
wv: suctin--I wouldn't get suct in to signing up for this class..
Thanks...that was an excellent reply!
I just found some new digi drama! Another pirate has been outed ... lol The owner has written a long post about it in her forum.
http://sophisti-scraps.com/forum/showthread.php?330-A-Sad-Sophisti-Day
July 20, 2010 2:50 PM
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Not surprised she's at it again. *eyeroll*
Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"?
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I think I just peed a little. LOL What a joke.
It's not just as ugly as a 14 year old's myspace page but it's probably run by one, or at least that's the way her crybaby "poor me" post makes her sound.
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
Oh great another scrapbook store-just what we need. I honestly can't think that most of these new stores are doing much business. I mean really how long can this go on before everything implodes. New Stores More Designers Shaking head!!
Is anyone familiar with Miss Behaving's classes? This one looks interesting but I already get Scrappers Guide videos and don't know if the Pen Tool class would be worthwhile.
http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Miss-Behaving-Workshops-Pen-Tool.html
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I would recommend them! I saw a video tutorial of hers on extracting images using the lasso tool and it was excellent.
It's not just as ugly as a 14 year old's myspace page but it's probably run by one, or at least that's the way her crybaby "poor me" post makes her sound.
July 20, 2010 5:22 PM
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Her reply didn't make her sound like a cry baby at all. She didn't defend herself or carry on. She just explained that she was taken in. Live and learn.
I just found some new digi drama! Another pirate has been outed ... lol The owner has written a long post about it in her forum.
http://sophisti-scraps.com/forum/showthread.php?330-A-Sad-Sophisti-Day
July 20, 2010 2:50 PM
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Boohoo! poor owner! You get what you deserve, getting in business with MsCora who has been pirating for years and multiple times.
And WTF about Bee creation? Didn't she just confess that she pirated that couch herself? Since when can you buy an element from another store and include it in a CU pack? All products at digiscrapbooking.ch are pirated anyway. The girls there just extract any photos from internet and sell them as CU.
So, Bee creation is a pirate, MsCora is a pirate, digiscrapbboking.ch is a pirate store. You all get what you deserve, don't cry about it.
Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"?
July 20, 2010 3:57 PM
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Who cares if it's a nobody store. Some of their stuff is no worse than some of the crap I've seen in a so called 'somebody' store.
Her reply didn't make her sound like a cry baby at all. She didn't defend herself or carry on. She just explained that she was taken in. Live and learn.
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See, if you were running a real business with the education and intelligence on how to actually run a real business and deal with customers the appropriate way, you would privately email the customers who purchased that product with a coupon and a very brief, yet sincere, apology and move on.
You don't make a public post on your company's website crying about how someone 'took you in'. She wasn't taken in, she was a fool for knowingly doing business with a pirate. Makes me want to run right over there and spend my cash right now. *rolls eyes*
That site, site owner and post is a textbook example of how not to conduct your business.
Her reply didn't make her sound like a cry baby at all. She didn't defend herself or carry on. She just explained that she was taken in. Live and learn.
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See, if you were running a real business with the education and intelligence on how to actually run a real business and deal with customers the appropriate way, you would privately email the customers who purchased that product with a coupon and a very brief, yet sincere, apology and move on.
You don't make a public post on your company's website crying about how someone 'took you in'. She wasn't taken in, she was a fool for knowingly doing business with a pirate. Makes me want to run right over there and spend my cash right now. *rolls eyes*
That site, site owner and post is a textbook example of how not to conduct your business.
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I disagree. That owner did the community a favor by telling us. She didn't have to do that, and then this could have happened to someone else. I commend her for her honesty. I also think it's unfair to call her a fool for giving the pirate a second chance. Now if it were a third chance, absolutely!
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
Oh great another scrapbook store-just what we need. I honestly can't think that most of these new stores are doing much business. I mean really how long can this go on before everything implodes. New Stores More Designers Shaking head!!
July 20, 2010 6:09 PM
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I predict that once the US economy starts to pick up people will realise they are kicking a dead horse and that there are easier ways to make money.
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Yeah, like setting up a photography business *snicker*
That site, site owner and post is a textbook example of how not to conduct your business.
July 20, 2010 7:06 PM
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I guess then every site that has done the same thing and made similar public announcements are also fools.
The thing that I don't understand is that if the site doesn't make a public announcement, they are slammed. If they do make a public announcement, they are slammed.
The thing that I don't understand is that if the site doesn't make a public announcement, they are slammed. If they do make a public announcement, they are slammed.
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I don't understand what you don't understand. The purpose of a smack blog is to slam everyone. So it seems we are right on track here.
I don't understand what you don't understand. The purpose of a smack blog is to slam everyone. So it seems we are right on track here.
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I thought the purpose of a smack blog was to point out when people needed to be smacked. Not to smack for the sake of smacking. ;)
I do agree you can't please all of the people all of the time. One would be a fool to try.
I thought the purpose of a smack blog was to point out when people needed to be smacked. Not to smack for the sake of smacking. ;)
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That's what I thought too.
Wow! some of you are pathetic, extremely catty, bitches. You should be ashamed of yourselves and grow the hell up.
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can I be you when I grow up?
"Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"?"
You are an adult? my 15 yr old daughter is more mature.
Why don't you be less of a coward and publically trash people instead of hiding.
"Why don't you be less of a coward and publically trash people instead of hiding. "
Says Anonymous.
LOL!
Anyway, I only have one question about the store.
Why do they all have to have such ugly siggies?
Anyway, I only have one question about the store.
Why do they all have to have such ugly siggies?
July 21, 2010 2:21 AM
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Welcome to the world of taggers!
Why do they all have to have such ugly siggies?
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Why do full size scrappers have such ugly personalities?
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I'm on a diet, I'm doing my best!
Welcome to the world of taggers!
July 21, 2010 2:46 AM
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Not all taggers have 'ugly' siggies. Sheesh.
To the Miss Behaving OP: I saw that Pen class, too, and I've never heard of her either, but I don't like the name Miss Behaving. It sounds cheesy, so I figured her class might be, too.
You can get a whole Photoshop (or Illustrator) class for only $15.00 - half price in July - from Andrea Gold at Go Digital http://www.godigitalscrapbooking.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=62
I have never taken a class from Andrea Gold, either, and I wish I had asked here first, but I didn't. I signed up for the Illustrator class a couple days ago.
I guess then every site that has done the same thing and made similar public announcements are also fools.
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Yes, they are. Especially admitting to knowingly working with and taking in a known pirate.
And to whoever came in from over there: I'd rather be a catty bitch than an idiot.
People DO change. There are several in the digi world that were taken back into the fold after admitting to their "sins" and promising it would never happen again. Some people believe in giving people a 2nd chance; I don't think that makes them idiots. They are however, tolerant & forgiving. The real shame here is that they are taken in by the individual AND THEN slammed by others around them for giving said person a 2nd chance.
Anyway, I only have one question about the store.
Why do they all have to have such ugly siggies?
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Seriously? I can't even begin to count how many UGLY kits there are out there! However, I'm sure that some people think the very same kits are "cute." Beauty is in the eye of the beholder people - get a grip! LOL I'm not a "tagger" but I've seen some tags that are quite pretty and have thought to myself that it would have been a pretty layout. Artistry comes in all flavors; you don't have to love everything you see but at least show some respect to those that create what they love.
"Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"?"
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So now designers are responsible for how an owner designs her site? And anyway, who cares what it looks like? I don't shop in stores just because I may like the site's design - I shop in a store if I like the designers designs!!
I'm not really sure why there's people so upset about the smacking going on here. Blame the person who made it public in the first place, not this blog. (See the acting professionally post above.) If the issue had been taken care of privately, we'd be talking about some other pointless thing. That's what we do here. ;)
As far as that store's reputation goes, well, she knew this Cora chick was a pirate. How many other designers in the store did she take using that forgiving, second chance that we don't know about? Is it only a matter of time before you (generally speaking) see your designs being resold? What is the owner's answer to that?
July 21, 2010 9:12 AM,
I see your point about beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm glad you create what you love. I just didn't like those and maybe I shouldn't have said it. I apologise. :-)
That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page!
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Have you ever seen a 14 year old's Myspace page? That ain't it.
About all the classes for the pen tool and Illustrator. If anyone is worried about them or questioning them I say take a look on the net!
A simple Google search will lead you to some very, very good tuts, most if not all, for free. Lynda.com is a great place for all tuts. Might cost a bit more but very professional and you will learn your software.
I would say that if the "money was mysteriously diverted" that the owner STILL owes the money to the designers. It is not their fault if the owner couldn't keep her site secure. (but I highly doubt the money went anywhere except maybe the owner's alternate paypal account.)
If I was a designer there, I would be demanding my money, as promised in the store contract. AND contacting both the web-host and Paypal to let them know about the fraud. AND contacting an attorney. AND sending a very strongly worded letter to the owner, with a firm deadline for receiving my pay, before I filed charges and initiated small claims court proceedings. And possibly filing a lien on the owner's personal property.
Designers have gotten ripped off way too many times by unscrupulous store-owners, and they need to start DOING something about it, or it will just continue!
That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page!
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Have you ever seen a 14 year old's Myspace page? That ain't it.
July 21, 2010 11:01 AM
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You're right LOL, that ain't it. Even a 14 yr old has better taste.
Wow! some of you are pathetic, extremely catty, bitches. You should be ashamed of yourselves and grow the hell up.
July 20, 2010 10:05 PM
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well dayyyyuuum who pissed in your wheaties?
Actually I took one of Miss Behaving's courses at Deviant Scrap. I found it actually helped me with my shadows. I hadn't heard of her before, I just happened to be looking for Holliewoods Studios and found she moved to that store and then saw the advertisement. Figure what the heck, what's $20. Glad I did, course material was easy to understand and I think my shadowing is alot more realistic. I'm sure there are free ones online but I'm too lazy to search. lol
Anyway, I only have one question about the store.
Why do they all have to have such ugly siggies?
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Seriously? I can't even begin to count how many UGLY kits there are out there! However, I'm sure that some people think the very same kits are "cute." Beauty is in the eye of the beholder people - get a grip! LOL I'm not a "tagger" but I've seen some tags that are quite pretty and have thought to myself that it would have been a pretty layout. Artistry comes in all flavors; you don't have to love everything you see but at least show some respect to those that create what they love.
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Yeah, a siggie of a half dressed woman with her panties hanging half way down her calf makes for a lovely layout.
In my opinion they're not so much ugly as they are distasteful and not very business like (regarding the siggie in the post from the shop owner at Sophisti-scraps )..well, of course unless you happen to be designing kits for Hustler or Playboy.
Can someone explain
to me what a tagger is
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Um, no. If you looked at the posts here, you could figure it out, it's not that hard.
Yeah, a siggie of a half dressed woman with her panties hanging half way down her calf makes for a lovely layout.
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I realize that you live in a box and think the entire world revolves around you and your little scrapping hobby, but you really need to take off your blinkers and realize that the graphics design industry is HUGE and not everything that is made is designed to be used in a scrapbooking LO. Pinups have been around for a long long time and take far more talent to draw than it took you to steal an image off the net and pretend it's yours.
Get over yourself.
Can someone explain
to me what a tagger is
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A tagger is someone who designs digital signature cards.
Can someone explain
to me what a tagger is
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A tagger is someone who designs digital signature cards.
with big hooties...
Pinups have been around for a long long time and take far more talent to draw than it took you to steal an image off the net and pretend it's yours.
Get over yourself.
July 21, 2010 6:26 PM
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Hmm, most of those images in the nudie tags are not remotely like traditional pinups.
Half the tags I've seen are with images stolen from off the net. They weren't drawn by hand at all.
with big hooties...
July 21, 2010 7:06 PM
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Moron.
Half the tags I've seen are with images stolen from off the net. They weren't drawn by hand at all.
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Wrong! Most are made using legally purchased artwork from various artists, from sites like http://www.mypsptubes.com/. But please, don't let me stop you from making up utter bullshit and defaming other peoples characters etc. It's obvious you are a talentless, bitter troll, with two much time on your hands.
July 21, 2010 7:06 PM
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Moron.
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What, they don't have giant tits? Is that not a correct assessment of the cartoon women portrayed in these tags?
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
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Here are 15 Designers that will be there. Well at least their user names on their forum:
Damayanti
Amy Rose
By Becca
Emi
Erika T.
Holly Designs - Owner
Kasia
Kelley Mickus
Fizzy Pop - Manager
marlies
OlgaUnger
palvinka
Tracey Monette
Vera Lim
Emily Ann Designs
I just can't see the allure of looking at a site full of half dressed women. Tags with pictures of yourself or your kid, I can see that. But I just can't figure out why other females would contribute to the degrading attitude that the only thing important about women is some over inflated, eating disorder, fake hair, fake make up, fake everything idea of sexuality. Have some respect for yourselves.
Wrong! Most are made using legally purchased artwork from various artists, from sites like http://www.mypsptubes.com/. But please, don't let me stop you from making up utter bullshit and defaming other peoples characters etc. It's obvious you are a talentless, bitter troll, with two much time on your hands.
July 21, 2010 8:01 PM
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Obvious? I used to be a tagger.
You slammed all scrappers, assuming they all stole images from off the net and claimed them as their own. All I did was point out that quite a few of the tags I had seen had stolen images. This makes me a bitter, talentless troll? Babe, I don't think so.
What, they don't have giant tits? Is that not a correct assessment of the cartoon women portrayed in these tags?
July 21, 2010 8:13 PM
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A lot of tags do not have giant boobs in them. It's your assumption that all tags do that prompted me to post the word moron. However, that was too harsh an assessment, I'm sorry.
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
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Here are 15 Designers that will be there. Well at least their user names on their forum:
Where did you find the forum? I only see the homepage with links to Facebook, Twitter and the newsletter.
You slammed all scrappers
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Actually no, I slammed you. Most scrappers are lovely people who just create what they love creating, not spend time putting people down on a smack blog. As for being a tagger, do you think you're better than other taggers now you've discovered scrapping huh? Well, I don't see the taggers creating blogs just to run down scrappers.
I still think you're a talentless, bitter troll, but I've said my piece, I know you'll continue with your slander because people like you need it to feel good about yourself.
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/forum
It's not linked yet. All you have to do is type forum in after the main URL.
As for being a tagger, do you think you're better than other taggers now you've discovered scrapping huh? Well, I don't see the taggers creating blogs just to run down scrappers.
I still think you're a talentless, bitter troll, but I've said my piece, I know you'll continue with your slander because people like you need it to feel good about yourself.
July 21, 2010 10:15 PM
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Where did I slander anyone? I didn't even slander you, you are the one name calling, so I guess you are the one that needs to feel good about yourself. I never said I was better, I was pointing out that SOME taggers DO STEAL images. It's the truth, and if you think it's not, then you are sticking your head in the sand.
PS: I have seen blogs by taggers just to run down scrappers.
Actually no, I slammed you. Most scrappers are lovely people who just create what they love creating, not spend time putting people down on a smack blog.
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I'm not putting anyone down. You sure are though.
Yeah, a siggie of a half dressed woman with her panties hanging half way down her calf makes for a lovely layout.
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Oi, Miss who likes to call me a troll?
See that comment? I never made that and yet you keep slamming me for it and calling me names. Is that fair? I didn't call you a name, I was tempted, but I didn't.
***yawn****
If you didn't make the comment why act like you did. As for calling me names, go right ahead, I'm not going to have a big wah wah about it.
Unlike you I didn't even know this trashy blog existed until yesterday, I just came here because you and your ilk were slamming a lady who does not deserve it in any way possible. If you don't want people to get pissed at you and call you names, try to be a bit nicer. We reap what we sew.
I never slammed anyone. Do you see the positive comments here about taggers? Do you see the positive comment about the store owner and her attitude? I made that too.
Feel stupid now for assuming things? You should if you don't.
f you don't want people to get pissed at you and call you names, try to be a bit nicer. We reap what we sew.
July 21, 2010 11:08 PM
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babe, you were the one name calling and being nasty, not me. I was nice, the whole time. Never once did I sink to your level and call you anything.
By the way, it's reap what you sow!
Ok, I apologise for assuming it was you that was being nasty. I'm just really pissed off seeing someone who I like and admire trashed for nothing.
Heres where the designers are going...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/
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Here are 15 Designers that will be there. Well at least their user names on their forum:
Damayanti
Amy Rose
By Becca
Emi
Erika T.
Holly Designs - Owner
Kasia
Kelley Mickus
Fizzy Pop - Manager
marlies
OlgaUnger
palvinka
Tracey Monette
Vera Lim
Emily Ann Designs
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I see only about 6 names listed as members. Where did you see all those names? Can anyone register there yet?
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I only saw about six names too. I don't even know who half those designers are!!
now here are some new names...goodness...
http://www.ninthandbloom.com/forum/member.php?u=24
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Threads: 174, Posts: 2,206, Members: 41, Active Members: 40
15 designers and 26 CT?
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Well how else are they going to sell unless they have a pack of rabid CT members? I'm so tired of the CT concept.
Well how else are they going to sell unless they have a pack of rabid CT members? I'm so tired of the CT concept.
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A pack of RABID CT members? Really? Now what exactly does that MEAN?
If you click on a person's profile then veiw their friends you can see who has what title unnder their name. By Becca has pretty much every designer as her friend.
But I just checked and obviously someone is reading here and ran and told the list got leaked because they have disabled the Veiw Members link lol.
From what I saw before they have the same ol', same ol' CT members. Pretty much all of them are from Shabby Pickle or the so called "Popular" Scrappers.
Same tired designers. Same tired CT members.
Yeah, a siggie of a half dressed woman with her panties hanging half way down her calf makes for a lovely layout.
In my opinion they're not so much ugly as they are distasteful and not very business like (regarding the siggie in the post from the shop owner at Sophisti-scraps )..well, of course unless you happen to be designing kits for Hustler or Playboy.
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Hustler or Playboy? Are you Amish? Or just close-minded and ignorant?
Scrap kits have plenty of uses beyond making layouts. Imagine that, a purpose for something you didn't think of. You might have known had you dared to venture out from under your rock.
You might even know women have boobs. Been to the beach lately? Seen a movie? Ever looked at yourself naked in the bathroom mirror? Ok, let's not push it, but at least get a grip and join the 21st century.
Nudity has been artistically celebrated since the beginning of time. Are the paintings in a museum distasteful? Maybe it's your taste and tolerance that need to be adjusted. Along with your sense of humor.
Just out of curiousity ... if there was a store that sold high quality, original kits, free of any commercial use products, would you shop there?
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You don't have to be Amish to think it is tasteless to objectify women. If those women find value in presenting themselves as slut-puppies more power to them but I personally think women have much more worth than that.
Slut-puppies? LOL! That's funny. I'm sorry you see it that way. I see it as celebrating the female form and embracing all that we are, intelligent, playful, sensual beings who aren't afraid to explore our nature...or laugh at ourselves.
All those kids you're making layouts for had to come from somewhere. ;)
This will be my first and likely only post on the topic of the signature tags.
I believe women can be sensual and sexual without objectifying themselves. Women as they truly are can be quite beautiful, however encouraging unrealistic images of women scantily clad is distasteful in my opinion. As a customer I would not shop at any store or with any designer who put such items in their signature tags. (and no I am not fat, jealous, religious, pearl-clutching, etc. so save the posts with those responses)
Slut-puppies? LOL! That's funny. I'm sorry you see it that way. I see it as celebrating the female form and embracing all that we are, intelligent, playful, sensual beings who aren't afraid to explore our nature...or laugh at ourselves.
All those kids you're making layouts for had to come from somewhere. ;)
July 22, 2010 3:02 PM
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OMG! You are such a disgusting slut. Seriously? you think unrealistic big boobies are a way to celebrate the woman body? Then go work in porn instead of scrapbooking,you'll earn a LOT more money and you'll be able to express yourself as a playful sensual being.
Got it, just a garden variety prude.
Additionally, I don't understand how a signature tag would (or should) affect how you perceive someone's designs. What if the store didn't have a forum? You would judge the designs based solely on their merit, not be judging the designer herself.
Which is precisely the problem with people like you. You just can't seem to help yourselves.
I believe women can be sensual and sexual without objectifying themselves. Women as they truly are can be quite beautiful, however encouraging unrealistic images of women scantily clad is distasteful in my opinion.
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Well said! It is bad enough when the pornography industry and advertising industry objectify women. It is just sad when women do it to themselves.
I'd rather see a pair of boobs than a bunch of no life housewives smacking each other on a stupid blog. You may think you're holier than thou, but in reality you're just bored and get off on slamming people for nothing. Quite sad really, maybe some of you need to; I dunno, get a real job?
I'd rather see a pair of boobs than a bunch of no life housewives smacking each other on a stupid blog.
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Well there are certainly enough places on the net where you can see that. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
OMG! You are such a disgusting slut.
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You're a fat, ugly, old trout aren't you. LOL
Additionally, I don't understand how a signature tag would (or should) affect how you perceive someone's designs. What if the store didn't have a forum? You would judge the designs based solely on their merit, not be judging the designer herself.
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I agree ...I think that's a huge problem with this industry, too many people feel the need to "know" who designs the stuff they scrap with.
I think this industry would be alot more drama free if it were more "faceless".
When I was a paper scrapper, I didn't feel the need to know who designed my paper supplies. I just bought what I liked.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Nah, I'm gonna stick around and show you all up for the low IQ losers you obviously are.
I just bought what I liked.
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Which is exactly what normal human beings do. Most don't feel the need to do this shit.
4:12, thank you for the best laugh I've had yet! I'm flattered you think I'm a designer - and a disgusting slut! How fun would that be?
Unfortunately, I am neither. I'm an old married lady who thinks age is just a number and it happens to be fun to express the various parts of my personality with signature tags.
I also think it isn't particularly nice or healthy to sit in judgment of people I don't know, especially when the product they're selling has nothing to do with their morality - or what I think their morality should be.
So, if the forum tags bothered me, I wouldn't go to the forum. I wouldn't elect not to purchase a beautiful design for my scrapbook pages simply because I thought the designer was a hedonist, or her politics were different than mine, etc. The designer herself isn't going into the scrapbook with my family memories.
Surprise, this old, disgusting slut has one of those too. :)
I just bought what I liked.
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Exactly. But how many regular paper scrapbook supplies come with naked women on the package advertising that product? LOL Wouldn't that be funny! I might buy it if it showed a hot, naked, buff stud.
Just out of curiousity ... if there was a store that sold high quality, original kits, free of any commercial use products, would you shop there?
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Yes!
...But I just can't figure out why other females would contribute to the degrading attitude that the only thing important about women is some over inflated, eating disorder, fake hair, fake make up, fake everything idea of sexuality. Have some respect for yourselves.
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Did you tell your mother not to buy you a Barbie? Or your daughter why you wouldn't buy one for her?
Right, that's what I thought.
Did you tell your mother not to buy you a Barbie? Or your daughter why you wouldn't buy one for her?
Right, that's what I thought.
July 22, 2010 5:47 PM
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Actually, I know a lot of mothers who refuse to buy Barbies, Bratz etc solely for those reasons.
You might even know women have boobs. Been to the beach lately? Seen a movie? Ever looked at yourself naked in the bathroom mirror? Ok, let's not push it, but at least get a grip and join the 21st century.
Nudity has been artistically celebrated since the beginning of time. Are the paintings in a museum distasteful? Maybe it's your taste and tolerance that need to be adjusted. Along with your sense of humor.
July 22, 2010 12:54 PM
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There's artistic and tasteful nudes and the there is what's in most of those taggers sigs. It's not tasteful in the least. It is like Hustler and Playboy. It's not even close to the Pinups of the 40s, 50s and 60s, which are adorable. They have an innocence and playfulness.
Maybe you should adjust your tolerance levels and realize that because some object to the near nudity displayed in those tags, it doesn't make them prudes.
Exactly. But how many regular paper scrapbook supplies come with naked women on the package advertising that product? LOL Wouldn't that be funny! I might buy it if it showed a hot, naked, buff stud.
July 22, 2010 5:16 PM
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How many digital scrapbook supplies come with naked women on the package? Uh, barely any. I would buy it even less if it was a naked stud, erk.
Same tired designers. Same tired CT members.
July 22, 2010 12:28 PM
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I haven't even heard of half of those designers, how can they be the same old tired designers? Just curious.
Just out of curiousity ... if there was a store that sold high quality, original kits, free of any commercial use products, would you shop there?
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No more new stores...please!!!!
Actually, I know a lot of mothers who refuse to buy Barbies, Bratz etc solely for those reasons.
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They probably tell their children that sex is dirty as well. I'm glad I had a normal mother. People with that many hangups shouldn't be allowed to breed.
Looks like a nobody store, I looked just the same, WOW. That forum is more gaudy than a 14 year old's Myspace page! These are "designers"?
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I'm one of the nobodies that sells at that store and I can tell you that despite what you say about the store and the owner, I regularly make around $800 a month from there, which I'm quite happy with.
Not only that, the other ladies are really nice and supportive, there is no bitchiness and backstabbing like I've found at other stores. The owner is friendly, approachable, and professional. I've been paid on time, and the full amount every two weeks without fail and if I have to contact the owner about any problems she always answers and tries to help. She'll even do things for you to really save you time and stress.
So you can say what you like about the store, I'm proud I was invited to sell there.
There's artistic and tasteful nudes and the there is what's in most of those taggers sigs. It's not tasteful in the least. It is like Hustler and Playboy. It's not even close to the Pinups of the 40s, 50s and 60s, which are adorable. They have an innocence and playfulness.
Maybe you should adjust your tolerance levels and realize that because some object to the near nudity displayed in those tags, it doesn't make them prudes.
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While you would like us to think how precisely you grasp the situation, you have entirely missed the point.
Pinups of the 40's, 50's and 60's weren't innocent to the people of those times. I doubt many people thought Betty Page or Marilyn Monroe were innocent.
Even that isn't the point. The point is, as someone above said about kits, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Dictating what taste and morality should be to others is a dangerous - and rather hypocritical - practice.
They probably tell their children that sex is dirty as well. I'm glad I had a normal mother. People with that many hangups shouldn't be allowed to breed.
July 22, 2010 6:28 PM
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No, they don't, actually. What a judgmental person you are.
Even that isn't the point. The point is, as someone above said about kits, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Dictating what taste and morality should be to others is a dangerous - and rather hypocritical - practice.
July 22, 2010 6:43 PM
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I find this hypocritical if you are the person who was asking about one of the posts being Amish or a garden variety prude? Aren't you the one dictating to others in that case?
While you would like us to think how precisely you grasp the situation, you have entirely missed the point.
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You really have no idea, do you?
They probably tell their children that sex is dirty as well. I'm glad I had a normal mother. People with that many hangups shouldn't be allowed to breed.
July 22, 2010 6:28 PM
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I hope you followed your own advice then, and didn't breed.
No, they don't, actually. What a judgmental person you are.
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Yes you do, and I feel sorry for your kids having a mom like you. Oh, and someone who frequents a smack blog calling others judgemental is possibly the funniest thing I've seen in a while. You're not very bright are you.
I hope you followed your own advice then, and didn't breed.
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Obviously that was the best comeback your tiny little brain could think of. I'm trading lame insults with a pack of imbeciles.
lol apparently no idea that it's useless to have a battle of wits with clearly unarmed people. gotta give the old lady props for tryin tho!
I actually understand what she's trying to say. She's not been snarky or stupid.
July 18, 2010 6:04 PM
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I realize this is an old post, but I just saw it and at the risk of boring everyone, had to respond.
She actually is being stupid. Who the hell is 'they'? The government or the market place? The government (also known as we the taxpayers) hand out the unemployement checks; the market (also known as business) makes the jobs. They are not the same. Granted - governments do employ thousands of people at the county, state and federal level but 'they' are not supposed to be in the business (no pun intended) of creating enough jobs to keep the nation employed. If that day ever comes - then we can rename the USA to the USSR (old commie Russia).
The marke creates jobs. We're in a recession - less demand - fewer jobs.
No more new stores...please!!!!
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Hear, hear!
Why? Just don't go to them and let the free market weed out the bad ones.
BTW, who is buying enough to keep some of those horrible stores running?
I mean, I wouldn't download the free stuff at a lot of them.
I realize this is an old post, but I just saw it and at the risk of boring everyone, had to respond.
She actually is being stupid. Who the hell is 'they'? The government or the market place? The government (also known as we the taxpayers) hand out the unemployement checks; the market (also known as business) makes the jobs. They are not the same. Granted - governments do employ thousands of people at the county, state and federal level but 'they' are not supposed to be in the business (no pun intended) of creating enough jobs to keep the nation employed. If that day ever comes - then we can rename the USA to the USSR (old commie Russia).
The marke creates jobs. We're in a recession - less demand - fewer jobs.
Finally - someone who understands capitalism.
BTW, who is buying enough to keep some of those horrible stores running?
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People with different taste to you obviously. I can't believe there are people this thick around. Sheesh.
People with different taste to you obviously. I can't believe there are people this thick around. Sheesh.
I get that not everyone has the same tastes but there are some stores out there that are just flat out bad.
I'm just wondering if people are really buying those kits.
Are their friends and family buying them?
Could a store stay open if they weren't?
Are their friends and family buying them?
Could a store stay open if they weren't?
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Stay tuned for tomorrow's episode. These are the days of your life.
Did you tell your mother not to buy you a Barbie? Or your daughter why you wouldn't buy one for her?
Right, that's what I thought.
July 22, 2010 5:47 PM
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Actually, no my daughter does not have Barbie. She's still too young to really discuss sexuality, but I have no plans to teach her it's dirty or wrong. On the other hand, I have no intention of teaching her that she needs to dress provocatively or allow people to objectify her to be successful. I'd like her to know that she can be healthy and happy in the body she has instead of constantly striving to be Heidi Montag. There is nothing attractive about the women in those tags. They are not a celebration of what is beautiful and sensual about a woman. They are just more images that continually pound into woman that looking normal is not good enough.
Well how else are they going to sell unless they have a pack of rabid CT members? I'm so tired of the CT concept.
July 22, 2010 9:38 AM
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Aww, it's too bad your scrapping sucks so much you can't get on a CT.
I'm one of the nobodies that sells at that store and I can tell you that despite what you say about the store and the owner, I regularly make around $800 a month from there, which I'm quite happy with.
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Yeah, I bet you make your earnings with cybersex. Or perhaps whoever buys your stuff is blind?
No more new stores...please!!!!
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Hear, hear!
July 22, 2010 7:34 PM
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You know, you are NOT being forced to shop at or even look at the new stores. I say bring them on, nothing like a little competition.
Yeah, I bet you make your earnings with cybersex. Or perhaps whoever buys your stuff is blind?
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Meow. Does saying stuff like this make you feel less horrible about yourself?
Good.
Or perhaps whoever buys your stuff is blind?
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Careful sweetcheeks your burning jealousy is showing. Don't worry, one day you'll be good enough to sell a kit. *flower*
Yes you do, and I feel sorry for your kids having a mom like you.
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Yes I do what? WTF are you talking about?
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Obviously that was the best comeback your tiny little brain could think of. I'm trading lame insults with a pack of imbeciles.
July 22, 2010 7:20 PM
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Sorry babe, just trying to put something out there that you will understand.
Careful sweetcheeks your burning jealousy is showing. Don't worry, one day you'll be good enough to sell a kit. *flower*
July 22, 2010 8:38 PM
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Ya know, sometimes it's not about jealousy, sometimes it is just about being bad. Think about it. I know you can do it.
Yes you do, and I feel sorry for your kids having a mom like you
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I know, I know. I'm a bad mommy. I didn't teach my child to be a fake, big boobed, male fantasy so she could get on in the world. I taught her self respect instead. Sigh. You found me out. Oh the tragedy.
Be honest, you really taught her that having a fugly mom means she doesn't have the genes to be attractive, so she needs to try and rely on her substandard brain since she also inherited your below average IQ and your weight problem as well. Poor kid.
Whatever makes you feel good, babe. If throwing insults out gives you the warm fuzzies, more power to you. I'm happy for you.
Yes you do, and I feel sorry for your kids having a mom like you. Oh, and someone who frequents a smack blog calling others judgemental is possibly the funniest thing I've seen in a while. You're not very bright are you.
July 22, 2010 7:19 PM
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glad to have made your day. I'm happy for you.
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I'm just dumbing myself down to your level. Babe.
The sad truth is that most men are attracted to women whose bodies closely resemble the 36-24-36 prototype. I read that in a pyschology magazine many years ago. It's prgrammed in the genes.
Wow away a few days and come back to all of this pure love and affection.
I'm just dumbing myself down to your level. Babe.
July 22, 2010 9:44 PM
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Wow! I'm impressed. You can read and you can copy and paste. I'm so happy for you!
The sad truth is that most men are attracted to women whose bodies closely resemble the 36-24-36 prototype. I read that in a pyschology magazine many years ago. It's prgrammed in the genes.
July 22, 2010 10:20 PM
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That's a normal/average figure actually, so I don't see what's wrong with that.
Women, in fact, are their own worst enemies and they are never satisfied with themselves.
Be honest, you really taught her that having a fugly mom means she doesn't have the genes to be attractive, so she needs to try and rely on her substandard brain since she also inherited your below average IQ and your weight problem as well. Poor kid.
July 22, 2010 9:37 PM
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If you are so superior, what are you doing here? I hear Mensa calling. Go on, run and take that call, you'll be glad you did.
I hear Mensa calling
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I've been a Mensa member for 8 years, unlike you, and most of the regs on this blog who are obviously bored housewives with no jobs, no lives, and no morals.
Your life must truly suck.
Wow! I'm impressed.
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It doesn't take much to impress your tiny little mind does it sweetcheeks.
Your life must suck too.
've been a Mensa member for 8 years, unlike you, and most of the regs on this blog who are obviously bored housewives with no jobs, no lives, and no morals.
Your life must truly suck.
July 22, 2010 11:48 PM
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And yet, my dear, you are here.
Yes, we are have no morals because we object to naked women. Hmm, that doesn't make sense. Are you sure you are a member of Mensa, coz you aren't convincing me.
It doesn't take much to impress your tiny little mind does it sweetcheeks.
Your life must suck too.
July 22, 2010 11:49 PM
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How about one reply where you aren't putting me down? C'mon, I know you can do it! If you are so intelligent, you shouldn't have to name call and don't worry about putting it into words I can understand, I have a dictionary.
And yet, my dear, you are here
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To smack you low lives yes. You on the other hand frequent this blog because you like to gossip and bitch about designers in the scrapbooking world. That is so bloody sad. You really don't realize how extremely pathetic you are do you, and the comment about your morals has nothing to do with your shame for your body, it has everything to do with you being here in the first place.
How about one reply where you aren't putting me down?
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I have zero respect for people like you, so I save nice conversation for people that actually deserve it.
But I just checked and obviously someone is reading here and ran and told the list got leaked because they have disabled the Veiw Members link lol.
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What's the point in that? It's not like anyone really saw anything. Why hide it? LOL is right.
have zero respect for people like you, so I save nice conversation for people that actually deserve it.
July 23, 2010 12:18 AM
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Now this made me laugh.
To smack you low lives yes. You on the other hand frequent this blog because you like to gossip and bitch about designers in the scrapbooking world. That is so bloody sad. You really don't realize how extremely pathetic you are do you, and the comment about your morals has nothing to do with your shame for your body, it has everything to do with you being here in the first place.
July 23, 2010 12:17 AM
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Are you happy now? Man, you are one sad little fuck, you know that?
To smack you low lives yes. You on the other hand frequent this blog because you like to gossip and bitch about designers in the scrapbooking world. That is so bloody sad. You really don't realize how extremely pathetic you are do you, and the comment about your morals has nothing to do with your shame for your body, it has everything to do with you being here in the first place.
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and yet you are still here. You need to stop talking about yourself all the time, it will make you look vain.
Have a nice day.
I have zero respect for people like you, so I save nice conversation for people that actually deserve it.
July 23, 2010 12:18 AM
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You surprise me.
Are you happy now? Man, you are one sad little fuck, you know that?
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Pot meet kettle! LMAO
Are you happy now? Man, you are one sad little fuck, you know that?
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You frequent a smack blog to gossip and bitch, and I'm a sad fuck. What a bloody hypocrite. I'll be happy when people like you take your talentless arses away from the scrapping community. You cheapen it.
New Space Please!!! This smak has gotten to the point of ridiculous and to the Mensa member, just because you have a high IQ doesn't mean you have any common sense. Sometimes being so smart is a real crutch to say th least.
To smack you low lives yes. You on the other hand frequent this blog because you like to gossip and bitch about designers in the scrapbooking world. That is so bloody sad. You really don't realize how extremely pathetic you are do you, and the comment about your morals has nothing to do with your shame for your body, it has everything to do with you being here in the first place.
July 23, 2010 12:17 AM
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and yet YOU are here?? seems to me as you are the lowlife needing to make yourself feel so much better and smarter than the rest. you haven't convinced any of us that you are better, only that you are a sad and lonely bitch with no friends.
I agree.
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The discussion is going nowhere fast.
I frequent this smack blog not because I enjoy making fun of others for no reason, not because I'm a catty bitch (though I can be), but because this is pretty much the only place I've found where people say what they truly feel and you can get some real news... places like DST will not ever say anything bad about anyone and if you even post about a bad customer service experience you get pounced on for not emailing the designer personally. Sometimes it's good to bring some things to public attention, and if it takes anonymity for that, so be it.
And I apologize for making the 14 year old Myspace thing comment... it was nothing about the store's design but really only about the owner's bling bling naked sigs, to me it really does look like everything I hate about Myspace, that's my honest opinion, it's gaudy as hell to me. I guess I could have kept that to myself though.
I wouldn't elect not to purchase a beautiful design for my scrapbook pages simply because I thought the designer was a hedonist, or her politics were different than mine, etc. The designer herself isn't going into the scrapbook with my family memories.
Surprise, this old, disgusting slut has one of those too. :)
July 22, 2010 5:11 PM
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I'm the one who said I would not shop with designers or store owners who encourage what I feel to be an unrealistic image of women. I have two reasons for this.
First, I do not want to support designers and store owners that are even vaguely encouraging eating disorders, objectifying women, and more.
The second is professionalism. The store owner and designers may in fact be wonderful people. I actually do not care one bit about their personal lifestyle. I am not judging them personally at all. I prefer to purchase from and support people that show a show a professional image. Having a scantily clad woman in your signature tag is not professional.
There are hundreds of thousands of beautiful designs that I can spend my money on. I am certainly not missing out on anything by choosing to support designers and stores that show professionalism and do not encourage things that I believe are harmful.
SUN is having a designer call. Since a couple of them actually left there and went to ES, how FUN to you think that work environment is? Nothing like absentee owners and horrid customer service to make your designs shine.
http://www.sunshinestudioscraps.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7680
Let's start a pool. You think the site will last through the end of the year?
More disney copyright infringement ... the elements are obviously hand drawn, but this is still a little too close for comfort!
http://www.lauriesscraps.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=108&products_id=399&zenid=2fdf482150e25d92ec5d135677811e0f
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Actually, I think Disney images are also trademarked - but yeah, major no-no. Who's contacting Disney on this one? lol lol
tips@disneyantipiracy.com
I did.
SUN isn't a good enough store for the owners to sell at, but surely it's good enough for me! (idiots)
http://www.lauriesscraps.com/blog/?p=2162
This one is even worse.
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