In answer to the questions:
Why so snarky?
Why so Bitchy?
Why so judgmental?
Please feel free to save this and copy/paste every time the question comes up, it will save us all a lot of time and typing.
1. This is a smack blog, we are snarky, snotty, bitchy, judgmental, critical, grumpy, dopey and doc.a. If you want nice, sweet and up your behind....go to DST.
2. If you are a designer, store owner, CT, etc. expect to be criticized, told you sell "crap" or worse, and don't expect sugar-coated either.a. If you want nice, see 1a.
3. If you are here looking for the truth, honest opinions and real feelings, welcome and join in.a. If you want nice, see 1a.
Credit goes to: Anonymous: August 8, 2010 8:21 AM: Thanks!
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«Oldest ‹Older 2001 – 2200 of 2219 Newer› Newest»well, if anyone finds out who is who....let me know...LOL! I'm just curious as to who they are is all, cuz I've never heard of any of them.
I wonder if those brand new designers are going to be SBG's "interns", and mentored by their designers? I thought SBG would take on established designers so it just sounds odd that they added some that seem unknown to us here.
Re Kneipp might very well be 14. Check his FB page: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_127586990630101&ap=1#!/profile.php?id=100000420344082
No matter what his age, if he is making those kits, at least they look pretty good. No different than anything else - unfortunately. I have my own issues with SBG - both pro and con. But whats getting me lately is that everything seems geared towards the Flergs/Inskip type kits, doodly, or whatever you call it. They added Charlize, who might be decent at designing or not, I don't know, but there is nothing out of the ordinary there, same with this new Studio 'BOY' - same type stuff, different colors, ya know? at least those templates from this True Blue person are pretty good. Still wondering who they all are....LOL!
On the site it says Juliana Kniepp but on that facebook page, it says Renan Kneipp. What is up with that?
Two different people? brother and sister i heard.
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So it is Juliana that is the designer, not Renan, right? So Juliana could be older right?
http://www.jukneipp.com/blog/
both Ju and Re are designers. Different stores. Different names. Different products.
They are not quite "new" either. Have been known among Brasilian scrappers for a while already.
And according to the designer list at SBG, Ju is guest and Re is permanent (Re is Jr. Designer as it is listed)
Ok , everybody....what the hell is THIS????? Please don't tell me its another SBG thing....good god. Notice all the SBG designers have the 5 star rating???
http://www.5stardigitalscrapbooking.com/
and to apply to be featured...it says you have to be UBER talented....omg....here we go
Has anyone been watching the DSD Sales thread at DST? Are those designers kidding me? Do they actually think 20 to 30% off is a good DSD Sale? Sorry but if you aren't having a huge sale, and I mean 75% off or more, I'm not shopping at your site.
What designer does a 75% off sale? That seems ridiculous and a little desperate.
That new site looks like its being run by Veronica Spriggs (Studio Vivaront or whatever she calls it)
Rating on that kind of site, depends on votes. I remember having my store listed in one of those and since i was the only one who had voted (initially) i DID have a 5 star rating too. I am not sure if THIS is the same though, maybe, maybe not.
Try to register a store in there and see how the rating is done. It might interest others in here.
Ok , everybody....what the hell is THIS????? Please don't tell me its another SBG thing....good god. Notice all the SBG designers have the 5 star rating???
http://www.5stardigitalscrapbooking.com/
Nothing more then another popularity contest. Rediculous and the numbers will really mean nothing because the CTs will go and click on the site or whatever they have to do to keep their designers front and center
Ok , everybody....what the hell is THIS????? Please don't tell me its another SBG thing....good god. Notice all the SBG designers have the 5 star rating???
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the 5 stars is the logo of the website, anyone can get ranked or rated, nothing to do with SBG,non SBG designers on there too, the designer Featured now is not from SBG
What designer does a 75% off sale? That seems ridiculous and a little desperate.
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Actually, last year on DSD Day there were a lot of kits and CU on sale for one day only at 75% off. I remember because I spent almost $100 that day - a few buy my stores also.
You know... people who think they are entitled to a 75% off sale REALLY piss me off. Do you go into a clothing store or electronics store and tell them that unless they give you 75% off, you're not shopping? Yeah, think not...
As designers, we are small business owners and most of us make peanuts, when compared to the time we put into it. Instead of trying to get the absolute cheapest price possible and buying a ton of crap you probably won't ever use, why don't you find a few designers you really like and support them by purchasing (happily) at 20-40% off. It is a generous discount, whether you think so or not.
That new rating site is being run by Veronica Spriggs. and....ANOTHER new designer at SBG today....LOL....Studio Buttercup. Templates.
On the one hand you bitch that there's 'nothing unique' and that everything is crap and not exciting ... and in the next breath, you want everything for 75% off. Give me a break. Why would anyone work hard to sell their unique products for $1.50?
The newest Scrapbook Designing issue is published! Exciting!
http://www.scrapbookdesigning.net/
What a joke. The copyright info is all wrong! And don't get me started on the grammar!
Sorry but if you aren't having a huge sale, and I mean 75% off or more, I'm not shopping at your site.
November 1, 2010 12:01 PM
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I never discount 75%. 50% is my bottom line. Not even retiring and closeout items go any further. I'd delete my store before I'd give them out for that price.
I am just an average consumer, not a designer or ct ... just someone who likes to buy lots of stuff. Come on now, do you really expect designers to give you 75% off already very reasonable (in my opinion) prices? You are nuts. In my opinion, 30% off or more is a fantastic sale. If they give you more than 30% well then that's bonus.
I've NEVER shopped at any store on DSD or NSD that offered 75% off.
I see that Scrapmatters is offering 40% off all stuff for DSD, that is an amazing sale, I would NOT expect designers to give their stuff away for next to nothing.
Sheesh ... stop being so greedy!
You say you sell your hard work for pennies... Yeah, but you can sell it twice, three times and so on, with just a click of the mouse. You can't compare a digital file to a physical item. (someone mentioned clothes and electronics).
Also, in my opinion, 30% on 5$ is just a joke...
Ok, think about it this way moron - you take DAYS or even WEEKS to create a kit. Yes, obviously you can sell it more than once, but to get your time's worth selling at $5 per kit, how many would you have to sell? 100? so let's say 100 people buy your kit ... that's still only $500 in your pocket BEFORE taking commission + paypal fees. Sheesh. Not too many people are getting rich. If you can't afford $5 for a kit, find another hobby.
I don't get those that think that designers are getting rich on this stuff. I make enough money for pocket money, it's not like I'm paying huge bills and mortgages with this. It's not even minimum wage for me, and I'd venture to say that's the case for most digital scrapbook designers out there, those making full time salaries are a very small minority. And in my opinion the industry is extremely underpriced, for the amount of work put into it, they should be closer to 10$ a kit, and even that would still be a bargain compared to paper scrapping supplies!
This is a smack blog, I do understand that but yet nothing makes you happy and no one makes you happy.
You people bitch and moan about pricing, People needing to learn their program before creating, Who is in what store and since they are not known to you you think they have no right to be there and so on.
Yet I guarantee that 80 percent of you on here bitching about all these people go back and leave nice little comments about these peoples designs and Cu items on their blogs, are fans of their facebook pages and even customers.
Why not grow a set and tell the designers themseleves instead of sitting on your asses bitching on a smack blog annon where nothing is going to get done about it.
It is funny people are all big and bad on the screen but yet are big and bad enough to go to these Designers themselves.
If everything in the scrapbook world is too damn expensive, too damn ugly, too many nobodys then get off your ass and create your own perfect masterpiece.
Everyone wants bargains, sure. But seriously. People come on here and bitch and moan about designers using CU or not being unique enough. And now people are bitching about the sales? Seriously? 75% off would be great. Sure it would. I like to scrap as much as I like to design. But you're talking about the average non-exclusive designer making less than $1 a kit after fees, etc. How many designers who are unique enough for you really want to give you a kit for $1. I'm all for random RAKs, but if someone's demanding a 75% off sale, go find one of those crappy sites that is always officially discounts like that. You get what you pay for.
Well here's my perception of some of the pioneers of some of the common digital scrapbook items used today:
Layered templates: Jen Caputo circa 2006 (there was a tutorial and freebie in Sept 2006 issue of DST insider)
Stamp sheet Frames: Meredith Fenwick (inspired by a scrapper but can't remember who it was) circa 2007
Curved photos: Debbie Knorr circa 2006
I'm not sure if Jen was the first layered template creator, but she was definitely one of the first. And I'm pretty sure that Meredith and Debbie were the very first to bring these concepts to digital scrapbooking.
My personal belief is that other designers should allow a certain 'grace' period before jumping on the bandwagon when a new idea comes along. Eventually, everyone will copy, but it seems considerate to let the originator enjoy some exclusive time to sale the products.
I never discount 75%. 50% is my bottom line. Not even retiring and closeout items go any further. I'd delete my store before I'd give them out for that price.
November 1, 2010 3:15 PM
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Not the one asking for the 75% but you'd rather delete your store than even make a small sale? Not very sensible.
I think 75% is ridiculous as well.
Ok, think about it this way moron - you take DAYS or even WEEKS to create a kit. Yes, obviously you can sell it more than once, but to get your time's worth selling at $5 per kit, how many would you have to sell? 100? so let's say 100 people buy your kit ... that's still only $500 in your pocket BEFORE taking commission + paypal fees. Sheesh. Not too many people are getting rich. If you can't afford $5 for a kit, find another hobby.
November 1, 2010 3:53 PM
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I'm not asking for 75% off but this argument is getting boring. If you are designer, you chose the business. Deal with it. I don't want to hear about the hours you put in and I don't want to hear about your profit or non profit margin.
And now people are bitching about the sales? Seriously? 75% off would be great.
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People? I see ONE PERSON asking for that and she got slammed. I do wish some of you would stop with the generalizations.
You get what you pay for.
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I wish that was true, but in digi it just isn't. If I buy a crap product in a physical store, I can get my money back. The same cannot be said in a digi store. Sure, they'll offer to replace it, but what if the replacement is just as crap? What then?
If everything in the scrapbook world is too damn expensive, too damn ugly, too many nobodys then get off your ass and create your own perfect masterpiece.
November 1, 2010 4:23 PM
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I did, thank you Miss Troll.
Stamp sheet Frames: Meredith Fenwick (inspired by a scrapper but can't remember who it was) circa 2007
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Nope, about three designers came out with these at the same time. I was making digital stamp sheets in 2003, I just didn't think to sell them or use them in my scrapping.
My personal belief is that other designers should allow a certain 'grace' period before jumping on the bandwagon when a new idea comes along. Eventually, everyone will copy, but it seems considerate to let the originator enjoy some exclusive time to sale the products.
November 1, 2010 4:47 PM
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Why? It's a business, not a church social.
The newest Scrapbook Designing issue is published! Exciting!
http://www.scrapbookdesigning.net/
What a joke. The copyright info is all wrong!
November 1, 2010 2:39 PM
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Yikes! The copyright info is mostly wrong.
As designers, we are small business owners and most of us make peanuts, when compared to the time we put into it.
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You make peanuts because every Sue, Mary and Barbara thinks she can hang out a shingle, buy some CU or run a style on a shape and call herself a designer.
The market is over saturated with 'designers'. Plus - I would venture to say that a great many of us already have hard drives filled with kits. After awhile, they all start to look the same.
If you are designer, you chose the business. Deal with it. I don't want to hear about the hours you put in and I don't want to hear about your profit or non profit margin.
November 1, 2010 5:28 PM
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I am a designer. I also choose th price. Deal with it. Buy it or move on. I don't want to hear about how you think sales should be 75 % off. Don't want to hear about how small your scrap budget is either.
Works both ways.
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If you are designer, you chose the business. Deal with it. I don't want to hear about the hours you put in and I don't want to hear about your profit or non profit margin.
November 1, 2010 5:28 PM
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I am a designer. I also choose th price. Deal with it. Buy it or move on. I don't want to hear about how you think sales should be 75 % off. Don't want to hear about how small your scrap budget is either.
Works both ways.
November 1, 2010 6:36 PM
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Well said!
I am also a designer, and there is no way in hell I am reducing my prices that much. If you don't like it, shop elsewhere, that's ok with me. I make enough money without customers that feel that they are "entitled" to a 75% discount.
I work damn hard for my money, I'm "entitled" to sell my designs at the reasonable prices that I set, not the ridiculous prices you demand.
Yes, Gunhild was the first person to figure out we could fold paper. It's a simple, simple idea, you can't call that copying because someone did it too... Gunhild probably got the idea from somewhere else that got the idea from somewhere else! Face it, there are no original ideas out there, everything is influenced by something else. Challenge: Find me a truly original product, and I'm sure someone here can link you to someone who had done it before.
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I did a layout with folded frames like that back in 2004. My shadows weren't quite as good, but they were definitely folded frames. I'm sure I got the idea from somewhere and created them myself just for one layout. So no...folded frames are not a new idea.
..and remember, Black Friday is right around the corner - some stores are saving the bigger discounts for that day. Having DSD in November is just stupid.
You work for days, even weeks, but about 300 posts up, there was a woman who said she never spends more than 6 hours on one, and if you do then you need to adjust your workflow.
Therein lies the difference, and there are damn few designers who have anything in their kits that is unusual enough, or took enough work to make, to justify the higher prices.
Back at the ranch, the unique designers we all talk about have a unique signature, and while their kits might justify the very high price tag, the truth is, they aren't every one's cuppa. In fact, some of them are downright ugly to me. So you get somebody like Cheeky Monkey coming in and thinking her kit is as good as these, but see, it's not. If it's not 100% CU, it looks like it is. There is nothing original in it. There is simply nothing justifying a price tag of over a couple dollars.
And while it sounds like I'm picking on Cheeky Monkey - I'm not. Every store has at least a couple of these designers...Re and Ju are two examples, too.
There is simply nothing justifying a price tag of over a couple dollars.
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So bur the CU yourself, recolor it yourself, and shut the fuck up.
The time involved in even recoloring and grouping a kit into a nice colour scheme with coordinating pieces that make a kit scrapable is worth more than a couple of bucks. That's if you think 25 cents an hour is a decent wage.
before the spelling police come, I meant buy the CU yourself.
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And that will cost more than a couple of dollars if she buys all those CU products in the first place!
The problem is too many stay at home moms want to supplement their income this way. Except that it doesn't work - for most. Maybe a few women are making enough to justify the hours they spend on a laptop while their kids watch tv or nap or whatever, but I have to wonder how many can really justify the cost benefit?
There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of women who are doing the same thing - making scrapkits. Buying the same CU or trying to scan images. Or using the free stuff from granny art, scrappin cop, gunhild, etc. Doing what most of us can do ourselves actually (if we know our program well) - although to be sure, there are a few women that really do seem to have an artistic talent in putting a kit together. But they are few and far between.
All in all, it's not a profitable way to bring home extra money. I'm glad I always worked part time when my kids were home and didn't have to try earning money this way. Plus, when I was home - I was with the kids - not on a computer all the time.
Maybe it's not profitable, and maybe it is a saturated market. But come one, can't we cut each other some slack? You have to be perfect, unique AND sell your kits for a couple of bucks ... that's just not reasonable.
My personal belief is that other designers should allow a certain 'grace' period before jumping on the bandwagon when a new idea comes along. Eventually, everyone will copy, but it seems considerate to let the originator enjoy some exclusive time to sale the products.
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It's a dog eat dog world out there. People are gonna make a buck where they can. Being considerate is not in the job description.
My personal belief is that other designers should allow a certain 'grace' period before jumping on the bandwagon when a new idea comes along. Eventually, everyone will copy, but it seems considerate to let the originator enjoy some exclusive time to sale the products.
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It's a dog eat dog world out there. People are gonna make a buck where they can. Being considerate is not in the job description.
My personal belief is that other designers should allow a certain 'grace' period before jumping on the bandwagon when a new idea comes along. Eventually, everyone will copy, but it seems considerate to let the originator enjoy some exclusive time to sale the products.
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It's a dog eat dog world out there. People are gonna make a buck where they can. Being considerate is not in the job description.
I'm not a mom, but I have plenty of designer friends who ARE and they spend plenty of time with their children when they are home. To make an assumption that these women are spending all day on a laptop while their kids watch tv is just wrong. You aren't in their homes, you don't know the reality of everyone's lives.
Are there women who should close the lid and spend some time with their kids? Absolutely. But, I don't think those women make up the majority of the designer market. I think most of them design in their spare time, around their kids' schedules, to make whatever extra mad money they can for their household.
Just like home party businesses are supposed to be time-flexible, so is designing. You keep your priorities straight, put the time you can into it, and hopefully, you get that time back in the form of a little bit of extra money in your pocket.
Does it pay the bills? In most cases, no. But it's better than nothing.
Has anyone bought a product (or got a freebie) from Circle Of Life Scraps?
I wonder if her stuff are really that bad or she's just having a serious problem making previews.
I hope it's just the latter.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/attn-designers-cts-i-need-your-help-257888/index3.html
I am a designer. I also choose th price. Deal with it. Buy it or move on. I don't want to hear about how you think sales should be 75 % off. Don't want to hear about how small your scrap budget is either.
Works both ways.
November 1, 2010 6:36 PM
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Hey idiot, when you quote and read, do it properly. I never said I wanted 75% off, now did I? Sheesh, some people are so fucking stupid it's a wonder they can get out of bed without falling over.
I work damn hard for my money, I'm "entitled" to sell my designs at the reasonable prices that I set, not the ridiculous prices you demand.
November 1, 2010 7:04 PM
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It's no wonder you are designer, you are too fucking stupid to read. I never demanded 75% off and I made that quite clear in my original post. But I guess you were too busy taking short cuts, as usual, to bother to check your facts.
So bur the CU yourself, recolor it yourself, and shut the fuck up.
The time involved in even recoloring and grouping a kit into a nice colour scheme with coordinating pieces that make a kit scrapable is worth more than a couple of bucks. That's if you think 25 cents an hour is a decent wage.
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Shut the fuck up yourself, without the customer, you wouldn't have a business. If you choose to spend hours getting little in return, that's your damn fault and not the customers. If you choose to buy CU, you aren't doing anything original and it's not worth the high price tag. You're nothing more than a repackager, no matter what you think you are. The customers can tell the difference. Anyhow, like you said, I can buy the CU myself and I do, and I bet I do it a damn sight better than you do.
Plus, when I was home - I was with the kids - not on a computer all the time.
November 1, 2010 10:23 PM
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What is it with this lame ass argument? Didn't your kids sleep? Geez louise, some mothers do their designing at night. Ever think of that? Probably not, too busy being damn superior to the rest of us. Not to mention the huge amount of designers that have grown kids or no kids at all.
You work for days, even weeks, but about 300 posts up, there was a woman who said she never spends more than 6 hours on one, and if you do then you need to adjust your workflow.
Therein lies the difference, and there are damn few designers who have anything in their kits that is unusual enough, or took enough work to make, to justify the higher prices.
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Amen. I was the one who made the original comment about work flow adjustment and I stand by that statement.
I work damn hard for my money, I'm "entitled" to sell my designs at the reasonable prices that I set, not the ridiculous prices you demand.
November 1, 2010 7:04 PM
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You can sell your kits at any price you want, just don't expect people to buy it. Without the customer, you're just a scrapper trying to make a buck. Remember that. You aren't better than anyone else just because you decided to sell something. I'm not demanding anything and in fact, neither did the OP to the post you are replying too. She said that 75% was ridiculous so I'm not sure what your beef is.
The time involved in even recoloring and grouping a kit into a nice colour scheme with coordinating pieces that make a kit scrapable is worth more than a couple of bucks.
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Yeah, yeah, it must take hours and hours to recolor and repackage. It must be so hard trying to remember if you used the rolled paper flower once too often this month, that ribbon, that frame. Did you use that staple and button in the last kit or the one before? Oh, who cares, no one will notice and I if charge a bit more, they'll think I'm super talented and original.
Sheesh. Not too many people are getting rich. If you can't afford $5 for a kit, find another hobby.
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If you aren't getting paid enough, find another job.
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I work damn hard for my money, I'm "entitled" to sell my designs at the reasonable prices that I set, not the ridiculous prices you demand.
November 1, 2010 7:04 PM
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You can sell your kits at any price you want, just don't expect people to buy it. Without the customer, you're just a scrapper trying to make a buck. Remember that. You aren't better than anyone else just because you decided to sell something. I'm not demanding anything and in fact, neither did the OP to the post you are replying too. She said that 75% was ridiculous so I'm not sure what your beef is.
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You need to learn to read dear. I was agreeing with the pp who said it was ridiculous, not arguing with her!
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the thing is, actually I am doing well enough. And maybe that's because I don't just take 6 hours to make a kit. I put alot of time and effort and hand drawn items into my kits and my sales reflect that. And if you can't afford a measley $5 or $6 then seriously, go to one of those stores that do offer $1 crap and scrap with those.
Although I am a designer, I do buy alot of other designers' kits and of course love when there are sales too. But I think the person demanding 75% off "or more" doesn't appreciate the value of someone's work. For DSD, I will be having a 40% off sale and I think that's a generous discount.
I don't do this as a full time job, I do it because it's something I enjoy. Still, I feel I've worked too hard to just give the stuff away.
You need to learn to read dear. I was agreeing with the pp who said it was ridiculous, not arguing with her!
November 2, 2010 4:19 AM
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Oh honey, I read it. You clearly said 'you demand'. How is that any kind of agreement?
And if you can't afford a measley $5 or $6 then seriously, go to one of those stores that do offer $1 crap and scrap with those.
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Who said I couldn't afford it? Hmm?
I think the point is that it's DSD. It's like the Black Friday of Digital Scrapbook shopping. Shoppers do expect awesome deals on that ONE day, just like they expect other stores to have awesome deals on Black Friday.
I think the point is that it's DSD. It's like the Black Friday of Digital Scrapbook shopping. Shoppers do expect awesome deals on that ONE day, just like they expect other stores to have awesome deals on Black Friday.
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So true. On Black Friday I'll be out shopping at Kohls not sitting on my computer buyer scrapkits.
It is kind of funny how things get compared between paper and digi. If you paid $10 for the material to create a paper layout, it would be one thing. If you were to spend the exact same $10 for the same matching digi kit, you would still get a better deal with digi since you can reuse the same paper, the same button, the same ribbon in more than one layout, and even colorise it, trim it, etc (assuming you know the basics of your program). Yet, people will complain if a designer had her kits priced at $10.
Although they are just bits and pixels and not physical products, it does not make them worth less. Quite the opposite in my opinion. Don`t buy MORE, buy SMARTER.
Ok now, just keep discussing your need/want for 75% off sales.
The newest Scrapbook Designing issue is published! Exciting!
http://www.scrapbookdesigning.net/
What a joke. The copyright info is all wrong! And don't get me started on the grammar!
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If they want to be professional about it they really need someone to make sure the info is correct and that you can read the damn thing without gritting your teeth. My teeth are now down to the nubs. I don't care if English is not the owner's first language. If you take on something like this then have someone else translate so the everything is correct. What a waste of time and energy.
I doubt anyone will find too many 75% off sales. That's sort of like asking a designer to sell her entire store for $10.00. ROFL If you aren't buying anything that isn't priced 75% off or more then I guess you can go find all the freebies and not worry about it.
November 1, 2010 11:20 PM
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Has anyone bought a product (or got a freebie) from Circle Of Life Scraps?
I wonder if her stuff are really that bad or she's just having a serious problem making previews.
I hope it's just the latter.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/attn-designers-cts-i-need-your-help-257888/index3.html
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Yes her stuff is really that bad. She's been told a zillion times, and she argues with shop owners, stating her stuff is "artistic". Uh huh. Blurry and pixelated ain't artistic. She has shop hopped way too much in the 10 months she has been designing, always getting in on everything - making an ass of herself with her "I'm an Artist!" statements...she's a piece of work, that one is.
It is kind of funny how things get compared between paper and digi. If you paid $10 for the material to create a paper layout, it would be one thing. If you were to spend the exact same $10 for the same matching digi kit, you would still get a better deal with digi since you can reuse the same paper, the same button, the same ribbon in more than one layout, and even colorise it, trim it, etc (assuming you know the basics of your program). Yet, people will complain if a designer had her kits priced at $10.
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I was a paper scrapper and never spent $10 for a page. Not even for a two-page spread. I paid between $5-$8 for two pages. And one big problem with this argument is that when I scrapped a paper page, I was done - I put it in an album. When I'm done with a digital page, I still have to get it printed. That's another $2 per page.
Woah 2$, I don't pay that much to print a page... but what I find the advantage of digi here is, I can print a copy for me, one for my mother, one for my mother in law, and one for my kids godparents...
Anyways. About that digital designer magazine, hard to take it seriously when Circle of Life scraps is in on it. Ew.
Has anyone bought a product (or got a freebie) from Circle Of Life Scraps?
I wonder if her stuff are really that bad or she's just having a serious problem making previews.
I hope it's just the latter.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/attn-designers-cts-i-need-your-help-257888/index3.html
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Yep, her stuff really is that bad. I got a freebie from her a while back. Had I paid for it, I would have demanded my money back. She really need to learn her craft before she tries making a buck at it.
Hey idiot, when you quote and read, do it properly. I never said I wanted 75% off, now did I? Sheesh, some people are so fucking stupid it's a wonder they can get out of bed without falling over.
November 2, 2010 3:32 AM
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The "you" to which I referred was the common, general "you". Not specifically "you" in particular.
See how a rebuttal can be formed without name-calling? But that wasn't any fun at all was it ass hat? Quit thinking everything is all about you.
I was a paper scrapper and never spent $10 for a page. Not even for a two-page spread. I paid between $5-$8 for two pages. And one big problem with this argument is that when I scrapped a paper page, I was done - I put it in an album. When I'm done with a digital page, I still have to get it printed. That's another $2 per page.
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I also have a big problem with that argument. Quite a few us do have our layouts printed and the average price is about $2.00. You can find more expensive printing companies and one cheaper. Or you can go the photo album route, which is much more costly, unless you use Artscow - but that's a crapshoot on quality. Of course, that's for a 12x12 layout - but that's the bottom line and anyone who can get one printed cheaper is posting bullshit.
I'm also a paper scrapper and when I buy a kit I have a tangible item in my hand. Not only did the designer 'create' the kit but there was actual cost in printing it. After I put my layout together - it's done. There aren't any more costs to me as a consumer - no printing, no postage, etc.
The "digi kits are a better buy" doesn't hold water with me. If I pay $10 for a paper kit and $10 for a digi kit - the digi kit costs me more. Plus, when I buy a kit in a store I know what I'm getting. I can see it, feel it and analize it. Not so with digi. I've bought kits that I thought would be great, only to find I bought crap. Bad edges, blurry images, etc.
And yes, if I make a digi layout I can have a copy printed for all the grandmas, but that's $2 or more per layout for everyone.
But that's just it - with paper stuff, you can't make copies for grandma, now can you? You also need to buy albums for paper supplies. You can print digi pages from home if you wish, which would keep the cost down. This is a ridiculous argument. Digi is clearly cheaper. I paper scrapped for years and haven't regretted going digital since. Did you forget that one piece of paper could cost you $2? One album could be as much as $50? One pack of stickers could be $5? Honestly, I'm so sick of people complaining about the cost of digital scrapping. Compared to paper scrapping or other hobbies, it's a steal!
2011 Featured Designer list is up at DST: http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/%7Bits-time-%7D-announcing-2010-2011-dst-featured-designers-257814/
But that's just it - with paper stuff, you can't make copies for grandma, now can you?
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And once you used that ribbon once, or that flower, or those rub-on letters, you are done too. With digi and a little creativity (and knowledge of your program) you CAN make more layouts, without spending a penny more. Something people tend to forget: you CAN REUSE digi stuff, which is one BIG "value" factor in my opinion.
So even if a kit WAS priced at $10, it would still be a good deal. Digiscrappers have been spoiled over time. You dont want to pay the price the kits are, go get freebies. There are tons of them in that "price range". If something is WORTH $10 to you, you wont mind paying for it.
Seriously. I think all designers should raise their prices. I'd love to see what happens then.
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GOOD designers should. Not all!
But that's just it - with paper stuff, you can't make copies for grandma, now can you? You also need to buy albums for paper supplies. You can print digi pages from home if you wish, which would keep the cost down. This is a ridiculous argument. Digi is clearly cheaper. I paper scrapped for years and haven't regretted going digital since. Did you forget that one piece of paper could cost you $2? One album could be as much as $50? One pack of stickers could be $5? Honestly, I'm so sick of people complaining about the cost of digital scrapping. Compared to paper scrapping or other hobbies, it's a steal!
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I've never paid $2 for one piece of paper - ever. And albums are usually on sale at Michael's. You can't print 12x12s at home - very few people have printers that big. And once I use supplies, I'm ready to move on with a different ribbon, flower, etc. Just as I am in digi. I don't want to use the same stuff over and over and over. In fact, using that argument to prove digi is cheaper is a bit self-defeating isn't it? Doesn't that mean that we scrappers don't have to buy all those new kits from you, we can simply re-use everything we already have.
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Yes, you SHOULD be able to use and reuse the digi stuff. And it is true, you should not HAVE to buy a new digikit for every single page you make. So, my point would be that you (general "you") should buy SMARTER. If you find a quality kit that is $10, but can be used creatively in many ways, several times over, it IS a better deal than buying $3 kits that you can only use once.
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don't you have to pay a fee to be a featured designer there? not saying they suck. some are good. some are ok and some do suck.
i am not a designer that is jealous. curious about the fee and have some of these designers kits. ugh with tangie baxter and connie prince all looks the same and laura banansiak come on now. who is karla dudley?
i am laughing at the designers at sbg. i am not seeing anything uber original there. you? ('cept lori davison)
I'll go along with most who have said that 75% is over the top...it probably is. I also agree that a designer is free to set the price whereever she/he feel is appropriate just as a customer is free to choose if something is worth that price.
I do believe there is one lapse in logic...ie - the higher you set your price for a kit, the higher profit you'll make. That's simply not true.
If you set the price of the kit at $7.00 and three people think it's worth $7.00, that means you've made $21.00 (minus fees, etc.)
If you set the price at $3.00 and, because of the lower price, 20 people feel it's worth that then you've made $60 (minus fees, etc.). The lower priced kit has generated more money than the higher.
Since digiscrapping is not about a physical product, you don't have to factor in how much less inventory you have, how much money was involved in producing it, etc. since, essentially, you have an endless inventory of the product.
I know this is an oversimplification of things but I think there have already been a lot of oversimplications made by saying you'll lose money selling at a lower price. Let's face, if consumers don't feel your product is worth the price you've chosen and you sell nothing...you make nothing.
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The math is correct but not always the way things are. Strangely, maybe the $3 kit will NOT sell 20 times, and will only sell twice as often as the $10 kit (therefore, yielding a smaller profit in the end).
Just like sales: if you cut the price down half (50%), you have to sell twice as many to make about the same (considering the fees). Does it work like that? From experience... no. It is not directly porportional. So, sometimes, a 25% sale will end up generating more money than a 75% sale. And it all comes down to the worth. If the kit is not worth $10, and sells ZERO at that price, sure, selling it at 75% will be beneficial. However, it is probably not worth MY money.
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Trixie Craps? Really? Come ON now. Apparently SBG wasn't the only one short on finding talent.
I've never had anything but issues with Trixie - quality is terrible. Jaggies, blurries, strays, ppi issues. I stopped buying from her after it was kit after kit of problems.
And Laura. lol
Stolen Moments - same quality issues as above.
It's nice to see some different designers in the mix, but how many were actually asked for by non-CT members? Trixie and Connie have about 100 rabid CT members...
I was making digital stamp sheets in 2003, I just didn't think to sell them or use them in my scrapping.
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Inquiring minds want to know, what did you make them for??
getting a featured spot at DST is simply a popularity contest. There is no "fee" involved. There was a thread up a while back from good old Jennifer Wilson, who thinks she runs DST all on her own...asking for suggestions. She takes that, and picks HER favorites. She is extremely biased - and one day the heads of DST will get those heads out of their asses and see exactly what good old Jennifer is up to. Fee's are only charged if you BUY a featured spot in the DST Insider. These featured designers have to make a kit that can't be sold for a YEAR - to be given out free to gold and diamond members. I'm a gold member. Hated last months kit...and this Karla IS a dud as far as I'm concerned. Can't stand this months kit either. but that's just my taste.
Is price the reason you buy a kit? Really? I buy because of the uniqueness of elements and the quality. I'd gladly pay $10 to get the good stuff and let those that sell their $3 kits have them if the quality is only worth that much.
Designers didn't have to pay any fees to be a featured designer at DST. They were "voted" on by the public - aka rabid CT. Honestly, I think most suck. I'd much rather see other designers in there. It sucks to have a diamond membership about now.
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How about MEMBERS start a list of who THEY would like to see featured so you can start listing some OTHER designers. Maybe different kinds of designers too?
one day the heads of DST will get those heads out of their asses and see exactly what good old Jennifer is up to.
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No they won't, because they don't care. They only care about the traffic to the site and how profitable they can make it. They couldn't' care less if it actually represents the scrapping community.
Aren't most members part of at least one CT these days? Could you imagine someone nominating a designer they weren't a CT for??
Besides at this point, doesn't matter. We're stuck with them for the next year.
Then you have one whole year to talk about OTHER designers!
yeah, right...as if anyone that isn't on Jennifer's good side's opinion would count.
One year to pester the head office!
Hehehe
Have you bothered to email Trixie Scraps with your complaint? I know for a fact she would fix them and would take your complaint seriously.
She has 14 layout artists on her CT and a few praisers who help with gallery comments. Not 100. A handful of her customers asked DST to feature her, as well as her CT.
Just for the record, I was nominated by someone who is not on my CT. I didn't even ask her to do it. She's just another designer from my store. It does happen. I did not get chosen, but still.
Does digi cost less than paper scrapping? I guess it depends on the person. Since I quit paper to go digi, I have saved tons of money. I suppose that's because I was drawn to all of the beautiful rub-on's, dimensional sticker packs, etc. As I look thru my paper scrap album, although I really love how the pages turned out, adding it all up there are some pages I paid about $20 for once I got the rub ons, paper flowers and Jolee's Boutique stickers. And I still can't share them with family. With digi, even though I usually buy a new kit for most of my pages, I'm still way ahead of the game. I print at Costco and have had really nice results for about $1.75 for a 12x12 and $0.99 for 8x8's.
I'd say the average price per kit I use is about $6, so with the printing it's still a bargain based on my past shopping habits.
Trixie Scraps has 14 layout artists on her CT and a few praisers who help with gallery comments. Not 100. A handful of her customers asked DST to feature her, as well as her CT.
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ok, just because I don't have anything else to do now, I counted.
Out of 28 people voting for Trixie Scraps to be featured, 21 are on her team (CT, Ad, etc.) 3 are ScrapMatters girls (who of course get her products for free.) One is Connie Prince who possibly voted Trixie because she voted her first. There are only 3 who are not obviously connected.
I can't find the thread where you were supposed to nominate and vote for the DST featured designers. Would someone who knows where it is link me? Pretty please?
uhm, there is no vote, unless you count the kiss marks on jennifers rear end
just saying
I think we should use the traffic we get here to nominate our own and start another blog where the designers that deserve it but are not in the inner circle get a chance to get the advertising.
How even and fair is it to keep it just to the ones that are in the "club". Sheesh!
People were asked to nominate their favorite designers and those that got the most nominations were asked to be the featured designers. So yes, there was a vote of sorts. Unfortunately, as has been discussed, the nominators were all rabid CT members, nominating the same designers over and over.
And for what it's worth, I love the idea of a new blog that discusses the "best" designers. Unfortunately it is still all subjective. What you may think is the best, I may think sucks. Still, I'd love to see what people thought. Throw up a name, critique, and let others comment.
Are those designers considered part of the "inner circle" or a member of "the club"??? I assume that you mean the in-crowd by those statements, but maybe I'm misunderstanding your meaning.
Honestly, I love a couple of them, but most of them are kind of...meh. They all seem like ok designers as far as technique goes, but IMO they sort of blend in. There isn't anything super unique about most of them.
It makes me wonder if DST offered the spots to bigger names, and they were turned down. It really seems like a lot of work, for very little in return.
What does it matter if digi costs less than or more than paper. They are two different industries and you really can not compare. Prices will get set to what the market can bear not to what a different market (i.e. paper scrapping) can bear.
There are different issues that play into the economics of digital scrapbooking.
One of the issues is supply and demand. When the supplies are low, prices are high. In the digi market the supply is humongous and getting larger day by bay. That in itself will drive prices down.
Another issue is uniqueness. A unique product can command a larger price. As so many of you mentioned, many kits start looking the same. This will also bring prices down.
Are the supplies readily available? In the beginning a designer needed an expensive photoshop and a good imagination. Now, you've got less expensive programs available, and a never ending supply of CU products. This of course makes it easier for more people to join in causing...an increase in supply.
In my opinion supply is increasing and uniqueness is decreasing in the digital scrapbook market which tends to be why designers think that they can not get the prices they deserve for their products.
This is the way it is designers, and this is what competition and free enterprise is all about. In order to make it in this industry you are going to have to have something different than the other 200 designers have to offer. You need superior product, superior customer service, and great marketing skills.
I wish we could rename this blog. I don't even go to DST anymore and could care less who their designers are. I've been checking out 2Peas again. They are growing in their dig area. Big Picture Classes is not just for paper scraping anymore. Jessica Sprague has quite a following even if there are some here that don't like her style. Unless you are a CT for certain designers there is really no reason to go to DST.
The "you" to which I referred was the common, general "you". Not specifically "you" in particular.
See how a rebuttal can be formed without name-calling? But that wasn't any fun at all was it ass hat? Quit thinking everything is all about you.
November 2, 2010 9:28 AM
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize that when quote me specially, it meant everyone. Contrary to what you think, I'm not egotistical. When you quote me, it's about me. Sheesh. a toddler could figure that out.
And ass hat? Seriously? What does that even mean?
There are some designers who must not make much money designing so they sell email addresses!
I can not believe how much spam I get to my scrapbooking email address. I'm thinking about starting over and using disposable email address to flush out what sites are selling our email addresses.
That would be worth smacking about!
Maybe she wears a hat on her butt because she is a butt head.
I was making digital stamp sheets in 2003, I just didn't think to sell them or use them in my scrapping.
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Inquiring minds want to know, what did you make them for??
November 2, 2010 12:46 PM
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Just digital art stuff. I was never a paper scrapper so didn't even think to call what I was doing scrapping. Some of it was and some wasn't.
ass=butt
hat=head
ass hat...butt head
how about gluteus maximus scalp
Did it occur to anyone that some designers declined being the featured designer at DST? I've seen for myself that a few of the designers that were nominated in the thread asking for designers to be featured don't even advertise at DST anymore.
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I can't find the thread where you were supposed to nominate and vote for the DST featured designers. Would someone who knows where it is link me? Pretty please?
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http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/who-should-next-dst-gold-kit-designer-248933
This is the way it is designers, and this is what competition and free enterprise is all about. In order to make it in this industry you are going to have to have something different than the other 200 designers have to offer. You need superior product, superior customer service, and great marketing skills.
November 2, 2010 5:55 PM
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Exactly!
ass=butt
hat=head
ass hat...butt head
how about gluteus maximus scalp
November 2, 2010 6:37 PM
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I like gluteus maximus scalp. Ass hat just sounds stupid.
It wouldn't surprise me that a designer would decline this opportunity. DST is not "all that" anymore. Many of the members are CT who are not going to be purchasing kits from other designers. I think designers probably do better marketing at the sites they sell at.
Seriously, I wonder how many non CT, non designer members participate at DST.
If I'm the ass hat then she must be the butt head, because hat and head are not the same, ass and butt are though.
My word verification is rudest.
Seriously, I wonder how many non CT, non designer members participate at DST.
November 2, 2010 6:46 PM
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I've declined being on certain CTs because one of the requirements was to post at DST.
Thanks for the link 6:42!
If I'm the ass hat then she must be the butt head, because hat and head are not the same, ass and butt are though.
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This was a loose interpretation to be sure. Just playing around.
Ass hat just sounds stupid.
November 2, 2010 6:45 PM
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Bingo. I knew you'd get it with a lil help.
I didn't need help to get that it was stupid, which is probably why I didn't get it in the first place. I left elementary school a long time ago.
I can not believe how much spam I get to my scrapbooking email address. I'm thinking about starting over and using disposable email address to flush out what sites are selling our email addresses.
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I bought some elements at Scrap Girls and my old email address started to get flooded with spam. Never purchased from them again.
I purchase a fair bit from Scrap Girls and never get any spam.
I think it might be DigiDesign Resort. As soon as I signed up for the forum, I started getting hit with tons of spam.
Have you bothered to email Trixie Scraps with your complaint? I know for a fact she would fix them and would take your complaint seriously.
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Perhaps she should take QCing her product seriously so one wouldn't have to complain.
If it were one or two things, sure, mistakes happen. But kit after kit? No thanks. It's not my responsibility to QC for designers. Especially when I can go elsewhere and buy the same style of products from designers who take the time to check such things before putting them up for sale.
Just for fun...is there someone that posts at DST that gets on your nerves more than any other?
Mine is .
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Agreed. I'm always amazed that the CT never seem to either pick it up or say anything.
Just for fun...is there someone that posts at DST that gets on your nerves more than any other?
Mine is .
November 3, 2010 12:11 AM
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You tell me first.
Just for fun...is there someone that posts at DST that gets on your nerves more than any other?
Mine is .
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Stefdesign gets on my nerves because she continually harps on and on about not buying and not using kits and yet she posts at digiSHOPtalk. What irony! LMFAO
Almost all of the Hot Topic regulars. There are a few who think for themselves, but the rest of them just make me want to scream.
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ass=butt
hat=head
ass hat...butt head
how about gluteus maximus scalp
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ass = donkey
hat = head cover
ass hat = donkey head cover
10:32, no one said its your job to QC for designers. However, if you buy something from a designer and you're unhappy with the quality, you should email the designer OR the store owner about it. Instead, you come here and try to tear someone down.
It speaks volumes about your character that you would rather trash talk someone than give them a chance to surprise you with good customer service.
Sounds to me like you have a personal grudge.
Donkeys DO wear hats LOL Well, they do in the movies. Have you noticed the straw hats with holes for their ears? Some even have pretty flowers on them. LOL
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She didn't 'trash' talk the designer, she said that the quality was crap. Please separate the designer from the product if you can. I know it's hard but do try.
To you, she may sound like someone with a grudge, she doesn't to me. But you, you sound like a judgmental bitch.
Donkeys DO wear hats LOL Well, they do in the movies. Have you noticed the straw hats with holes for their ears? Some even have pretty flowers on them. LOL
November 3, 2010 12:54 AM
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They do in real life too. I've seen it.
But you, you sound like a judgmental bitch.
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Likewise, bitch!
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Nah, it's quite clear from your writing that's what you are. No judging from me was required.
Just for fun...is there someone that posts at DST that gets on your nerves more than any other?
Mine is .
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Strangely, people here complain that DST is too much about CT, and advertisement, yet, when one member is NOT a CT member, does NOT push for one store or designer, then she should not be in digiSHOPtalk forum? How about you decide what you want. You cannot have it both ways.
Yeah. Barb Speck drives me nuts with her huge posts that basically say nothing except how much she knows about everything. Jaguarwoman complaining about everything. Scrapbookizate - the one who does the new crappy magazine, who thinks she knows everything. Jusme Digital. Mye de whatever it is, always looking for new CU. Circle of Life Scraps - isn't she SO wonderful? always offering to do collabs, but her stuff is crap. Those are just the designers. Don't get me started on the CT people.
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I second all of the above. Another that bugs me is Cassel. Oh and Hummie.
I do appreciate knowing WHY such and such member/designer/Ct is getting on your nerve. Some things i never noticed, some things are not bothering me the same. Better than just the names.
10:32, no one said its your job to QC for designers. However, if you buy something from a designer and you're unhappy with the quality, you should email the designer OR the store owner about it. Instead, you come here and try to tear someone down.
It speaks volumes about your character that you would rather trash talk someone than give them a chance to surprise you with good customer service.
Sounds to me like you have a personal grudge.
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No grudge at all. Just stating my experiences with Trixie Craps "products."
I'm not buying a kit for the opportunity to be surprised "with good customer service." I'm buying a kit to scrap with. There is no SHOULD on my part as a customer. It's not my duty to email every designer who puts out shoddy products. I speak with my wallet... and now, I buy elsewhere.
Some of the above mentioned designers do annoy me a bit, but i have to say that it wont prevent me from interacting with them or buying from them (i dont buy much though). Even in real life, some people can annoy me, but that is reality!
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I "interact" with them when necessary. but please don't tell me you don't actually BUY anything from Circle of Life Scraps....
OK, Can I gripe for a minute? I really hate it when CT members just disappear. They stop doing anything at all. No response to emails sent and they just ignore! I know this blog has a lot of designers but scrappers too. Why do people do that? Why can they not just send an email and say "I am really busy and I can not fulfill my responsibilities on your CT, I have to quit."? Didn't anyone get taught manners?
So...DigiScrap Mania is merging with Scrapable? That's a weird kinda mix. and...did anyone else see how many new designers are at Polka dot Plum? wow.
did anyone else see how many new designers are at Polka dot Plum? wow.
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Ugh! Where did they get those designers from? More than half of the new ones' products look so amateurish. I've seen much better freebies from non-selling designers.
Yeah. Barb Speck drives me nuts with her huge posts that basically say nothing except how much she knows about everything. Jaguarwoman complaining about everything. Scrapbookizate - the one who does the new crappy magazine, who thinks she knows everything. Jusme Digital. Mye de whatever it is, always looking for new CU. Circle of Life Scraps - isn't she SO wonderful? always offering to do collabs, but her stuff is crap. Those are just the designers. Don't get me started on the CT people.
why bother being involved with digital at all. Sounds like you'd be happier doing something else.
I "interact" with them when necessary. but please don't tell me you don't actually BUY anything from Circle of Life Scraps....
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I NEVER bought from Circle of Life Scraps. I never bought from Mye, Scrapbookizate. I have looked at Jaguarwoman`s stuff, but it is not my style. I dont remember ever buying from Barb. So, all in all, i cannot say i had product issues with them, so i cannot say that i will never buy from them. But, they simply are not my style so it wont affect my buying.
There's too many new designers at Polka Dot Plum to count. Are any even remotely interesting?
Uggg ... Just got the CU Digital Newsletter ... there's a pack of CU freebie elements in it. And it's just extracted Christmas ornaments. Copyright issues anyone? Uggg
DigiScrap Mania is merging with Scrapable
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The owners were the same. It makes sense from their perspective I guess.
There are too many annoying people at DST to list. That's why I gave up on it a long time ago.
And totally agree with the PP who mentioned the Hot Topics regulars. Txmusicmom in particular.
I wish we could rename this blog. I don't even go to DST anymore and could care less who their designers are. I've been checking out 2Peas again. They are growing in their dig area. Big Picture Classes is not just for paper scraping anymore. Jessica Sprague has quite a following even if there are some here that don't like her style. Unless you are a CT for certain designers there is really no reason to go to DST.
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I just can't seem to get into 2peas. To me, it's not a digi store. I was really disappointed when Vinnie Pearce went there, and now Dianne Rigdon. It seems not worth the trouble to navigate that store.
I had actually "tried" to buy something from the Jessica Sprague website - a really cute item from Kitschy Digitals. So I go and register in the store, and then realize it's one of those stores that you have to wait for the confirmation email in order to be registered. So the email never comes, not in spam or junk folder, nothing.
I look on the website to try to fidn out if someone can resend the email to me, but you can't email the site unless you're a registered user. How stupid is that? So because it was something I really wanted to finish a page, I look up Jessica's blog. I find an email address listed there, so I go that route. Did not even receive a response. So how the hell do I shop there? Beyond ridiculous. What great customer service they have there.
Stamp sheet Frames: Meredith Fenwick (inspired by a scrapper but can't remember who it was) circa 2007
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Nope, about three designers came out with these at the same time. I was making digital stamp sheets in 2003, I just didn't think to sell them or use them in my scrapping.
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^^^^^ I think you are referring to something different. These are empty frames that look like sheets of postage stamps. Meredith came out with a line of them and then later others jumped on the trend.
Laurakaye was in the "Queen of the Crop" contest at SBG and asked Meredith to create the stamp sheets for her. I remember reading about how the product was created by Meredith and 'inspired' by Laurakaye.
I did a search at DST and the first products I found are from Meredith's from May 2007 (products are called 'Naked Stamp Sheets' and 'Covered Stamp Sheets').
I challenge you to find a gallery layout using a stamp sheet frame prior to May 2007 from a different designer.
I challenge you to find a gallery layout using a stamp sheet frame prior to May 2007 from a different designer.
November 3, 2010 3:38 PM
Srsly?
I challenge you to grow up and learn to accept that it's a free market. What's next, the first designer who used pink in a kit is the only one ever allowed to sell anything that's pink?
I challenge you to find a gallery layout using a stamp sheet frame prior to May 2007 from a different designer.
November 3, 2010 3:38 PM
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I don't have time to mess around with gallery layouts, but here are some stamp frames from Katie Pertiet, and the release date is January of 2007.http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/advanced_search_result.php/keywords/stamp%20frames/sort/6a/page/2
The item I'm referring to is EL73944,
So, your scorekeeping is seriously flawed to begin with.
I think it might be DigiDesign Resort. As soon as I signed up for the forum, I started getting hit with tons of spam.
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Me too. And I'll never buy or download a freebie from Fa Maura or GoDigitalScrapbooking again. It took *months* to get off their lists--even though I know I had not checked the "subscribe me" button.
I have a set of stamp frames from Anna Aspnes - the date created says Monday, August 15, 2005, the TOU is also dated 2005.
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*gasp!*
You mean Meredith Fenwick jumped on someone else's idea?
Shocking--NOT
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These are empty frames that look like sheets of postage stamps. Meredith came out with a line of them and then later others jumped on the trend.
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MizAmyLou is that you? This sure sounds a lot like the Kimberly G. vs. Faith True smear campaign.
When will you rabid CT bitches ever learn?
Why do people do that? Why can they not just send an email and say "I am really busy and I can not fulfill my responsibilities on your CT, I have to quit."? Didn't anyone get taught manners?
November 3, 2010 12:24 PM
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I can't answer for every CT out there, but I do know that I did this once to a bunch of designers. It had nothing to do with a lack of manners on my part either. My real world at the time just collapsed around me and the last thing on my mind was my CTs. However, not one of the designers emailed me, because if they had, I would have replied.
just can't seem to get into 2peas. To me, it's not a digi store. I was really disappointed when Vinnie Pearce went there, and now Dianne Rigdon. It seems not worth the trouble to navigate that store.
I had actually "tried" to buy something from the Jessica Sprague website - a really cute item from Kitschy Digitals. So I go and register in the store, and then realize it's one of those stores that you have to wait for the confirmation email in order to be registered. So the email never comes, not in spam or junk folder, nothing.
I look on the website to try to fidn out if someone can resend the email to me, but you can't email the site unless you're a registered user. How stupid is that? So because it was something I really wanted to finish a page, I look up Jessica's blog. I find an email address listed there, so I go that route. Did not even receive a response. So how the hell do I shop there? Beyond ridiculous. What great customer service they have there.
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I've never had a problem shopping at 2Peas. Sorry your experience was so crap. I have to agree, the digi part of the store is hell to navigate. I don't know about the other part of the store as I never did paper.
^^^^^ I think you are referring to something different. These are empty frames that look like sheets of postage stamps. Meredith came out with a line of them and then later others jumped on the trend.
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No I'm not. I was on Meredith's CT at the time and noticed that about two other designers came out with the same item.
I challenge you to find a gallery layout using a stamp sheet frame prior to May 2007 from a different designer.
November 3, 2010 3:38 PM
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I said about the same time, not before, learn to read please. Besides, Anita Stergiou (sp?) also had stamp sheets at around the same time. Good enough for you?
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I see that other people have already found stamp sheets prior to Meredith's.
I did a search at DST and the first products I found are from Meredith's from May 2007 (products are called 'Naked Stamp Sheets' and 'Covered Stamp Sheets').
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You only searched DST? That's a very limited market right there. Unless you searched every gallery, you can't say for sure who was first, not that it matters. I have Meredith's sheets and I like them, I don't really care who was first. Geez, how childish can you get.
I don't have time to mess around with gallery layouts, but here are some stamp frames from Katie Pertiet, and the release date is January of 2007.http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/advanced_search_result.php/keywords/stamp%20frames/sort/6a/page/2
The item I'm referring to is EL73944,
So, your scorekeeping is seriously flawed to begin with.
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nope...that's not it either. I don't mean stamps as in 'brushes' as in brushed frames(those have been around forever). I mean stamps as in SHEETS of postage stamps (that are used as frames).
Word verification: poope
nope...that's not it either. I don't mean stamps as in 'brushes' as in brushed frames(those have been around forever). I mean stamps as in SHEETS of postage stamps (that are used as frames).
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Hey dumbass, she wasn't referring to the stamps, she was referring to the sheet of POSTAGE STAMP frames that she even listed by number.
Childish AND stupid. What a shocker.
http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/3087
You should read the post before you respond.
http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/2283
The item I'm referring to is EL73944,
The item I'm referring to is EL73944,
The item I'm referring to is EL73944,
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Second item down on the page that was linked, since apparently you missed what's quoted above.
I did a search at DST and the first products I found are from Meredith's from May 2007 (products are called 'Naked Stamp Sheets' and 'Covered Stamp Sheets').
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You only searched DST? That's a very limited market right there. Unless you searched every gallery, you can't say for sure who was first, not that it matters. I have Meredith's sheets and I like them, I don't really care who was first. Geez, how childish can you get.
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^^^^^^ I posted the statement in response to the conversation (a couple hundred posts back) about how many truly original ideas there are in digi. I was trying to think of people who truly came up with unique ideas and who I thought the originators were. The best examples I could think of was Jen Caputo's templates, Debbie Knorr's curved frames, and Merediths stamp sheet sets.
Not trying to be childish...just trying to think of who in my mind have really come up with something unique (albeit very short lived before everyone else jumped on the bandwagon).
Yes I only searched DST because back in 2007 that was a major hub (I didn't say ONLY hub). But aside from 2peas, that's where most of the action was.
And to the poster that mentioned Anna Aspnes - brushed frames are not the product I'm referring to.
And to the poster that mentioned Anna Aspnes - brushed frames are not the product I'm referring to.
November 3, 2010 5:27 PM
You've already been provided with a link that shows that Katie Pertiet released postage stamp frames in JANUARY of 2007. Months before your claim that Meredith Fenwick was the first one to put them out in MAY of 2007.
You're deliberately being obtuse, and it makes you look not just childish, but extremely foolish.
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I see that other people have already found stamp sheets prior to Meredith's.
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Still no other stamp SHEET frames. Katie did have single stamp frames (finally found them) which could be considered pre-stamp sheet frames I suppose! Which all supports the notion that nothing is truly original. A single stamp verses a sheet of stamps.
Not trying to be childish...just trying to think of who in my mind have really come up with something unique (albeit very short lived before everyone else jumped on the bandwagon).
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It was chidlish to challenge someone to find a product that came before Meredith's. You wouldn't accept that Meredith was not the first.
It was chidlish to challenge someone to find a product that came before Meredith's. You wouldn't accept that Meredith was not the first.
November 3, 2010 5:43 PM
That!
It was chidlish to challenge someone to find a product that came before Meredith's. You wouldn't accept that Meredith was not the first.
November 3, 2010 5:43 PM
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Childish, and stoopid to boot since it only took a few minutes for someone to find a product that proved the challenger very, very wrong.
What is the point of finding the ONE first person to do something? Even if one person was first to SELL something, does not mean she was the first to DO it (a scrapper might have thought of it before a designer). Then, the first one to DO it digitally, likely saw it done in 3D life before so she copied or adapted for the digital world.
And those who were "potentially" first to DO or SELL, did they complain that it started a trend?
http://tinypic.com/r/2qsq6pv/7
Copyright 2005 and yes there are brushes but also png files in the set.
What is the point of finding the ONE first person to do something?
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There isn't one other than Kindergarten playground bullshit.
Only people like MzAmyLou and the 'I challenge you' Meredith Fenwick groupie engage in this kind of stupidity.
Rabid CT and/or fan bullshit.
http://tinypic.com/r/2qsq6pv/7
Copyright 2005 and yes there are brushes but also png files in the set.
November 3, 2010 5:54 PM
^^^^
More proof :) And there's even a stamp SHEET roflmao!
Aside from DST's blog train, does anyone else know of any?
Still no other stamp SHEET frames. Katie did have single stamp frames (finally found them) which could be considered pre-stamp sheet frames I suppose! Which all supports the notion that nothing is truly original. A single stamp verses a sheet of stamps.
November 3, 2010 5:35 PM
You are beyond redonkulous.
You got pwned and you're still digging your heels in. Nimrod.
Aside from DST's blog train, does anyone else know of any?
November 3, 2010 6:00 PM
Sorry, no. I gave up on blogtrains after so many that I tried were full of dead ends, broken links, and general chaos. My time is valuable-I'll take a good sale over a fruitless hunt for questionable=quality freebies any day.
Sorry, no. I gave up on blogtrains after so many that I tried were full of dead ends, broken links, and general chaos. My time is valuable-I'll take a good sale over a fruitless hunt for questionable=quality freebies any day.
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Totally understand but thanks for taking the time to answer. Really appreciate that.
Stuff to Scrap has a monthly blog train, but the quality is hit or miss.
ScrapMatters will be having a blog train on Saturday.
Aside from DST's blog train, does anyone else know of any?
November 3, 2010 6:00 PM
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Sorry, no. I gave up on blog trains a while ago. I didn't mind too much about the hit and miss quality, I could always delete, however, when they started to include FB fan pages and the like, I just stopped altogether.
I know 9th & Bloom had a joint blog train with the Lily Pad over Halloween. Not sure if that is still active though.
DSA is having a blog train. should be a good line up of designers and stores. ?
There are a bunch of blog-trains. Oscraps on Saturday; Scrap Matters, My Life and Scrap, ZigZag Scrap, Design House Digital, MScraps, Shabby Pickle, DigiScrap Addicts are all talking about their blog hops (although the days haven't necessarily been published, I assume they are all on Saturday.)
There may be more - I don't really shop Lily Pad or After5, so I'm not up on them all. :)
Katie Pertiet (DD) is having one of those all days quarterly chats on Saturday. You can pop in and snag your freebie for the hour. It runs 8am - 11pm at night. I got a lot of great stuff over the years, small in quantity, but great.
On Nov 8 is SBBytes Blog hop.
Like other posters, I'm not too shot with most of the stuff in blog hops. BUT I just poured a bunch of money into Paypal, so I'm already stocking my shopping carts and wishlists. If you're in a store without a permanent cart or wishlist, you need to start lobbying the owner for an upgrade!
Last year I read this blog, and I waited till Black Friday. From my experience last year, the Black Friday scrap sales were nothing compared to the NSD sales.
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http://scraporchard.com/forum/showthread.php?24226-Partyin-Orchard-Style-MUST-SEE-T.V.!!&p=341957
I'm ALMOST speechless.
well - they looked like they were having fun...LOL
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