In answer to the questions:
Why so snarky?
Why so Bitchy?
Why so judgmental?
Please feel free to save this and copy/paste every time the question comes up, it will save us all a lot of time and typing.
1. This is a smack blog, we are snarky, snotty, bitchy, judgmental, critical, grumpy, dopey and doc.a. If you want nice, sweet and up your behind....go to DST.
2. If you are a designer, store owner, CT, etc. expect to be criticized, told you sell "crap" or worse, and don't expect sugar-coated either.a. If you want nice, see 1a.
3. If you are here looking for the truth, honest opinions and real feelings, welcome and join in.a. If you want nice, see 1a.
Credit goes to: Anonymous: August 8, 2010 8:21 AM: Thanks!
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There is Liz Taylor but not Marilyn.
I have never heard of horny women elements. Now there's something every woman needs in her scrapbook for future generations to enjoy.
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She's not aiming at scrap bookers. There's a whole other digital art world out there you know. As for the women, they have horns, what were you thinking?
It finally happened. There hasn't been on a nsbr post on DST in over 24 hours. I'm not counting blog trains.
I miss the sharing of recipes, reviews on appliances & stuff like that.
September 15, 2010 5:35 PM
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There doesn't seem to be much activity anywhere.
Have not seen coke elements in kits. If they are old enough, doesn't that make them fine to use though?
September 15, 2010 2:48 PM
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No. That is a common belief and completely wrong. Coke continually update their trademark rights so even stuff that is 70 years old or more still belongs to them. This is true of any prominent trademark.
However, if she took the picture herself, then maybe she can sell it. I'm not sure on that.
However, if she took the picture herself, then maybe she can sell it. I'm not sure on that.
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Nope, not if it's trademarked. If not you'd be able to make perfectly good Disney kits just by extracting your Disneyworld vacation photos, but you can't. Now if you were extracting mickey mouse to make a paper for YOURSELF to use, you can do that for personal use, but you can't share it.
Yep - that's exactly right....which is why I don't know how Deviant gets away with that kind of stuff. That billboard of the coke and nestle stuff is a big old no-no.
The "horny women" elements DO make me laugh, tho....
So, one designer at Deviant has used trademarked/copyrighted material, and that makes all the designers bad?
Have you reported the violations to Coke and Nestle? I hope so, otherwise it's just hot air, isn't it?
You know, one can see that trademark has been infringed without giving a shit enough to contact the authorities.
Coke & Nestle are getting free advertising so they probably don't care.
Christina Renee is at SBG as a regular designer now. Now that is a match made in heaven!
September 15, 2010 2:35 PM
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Obviously couldn't make it at Oscraps. I have to admit, I've never had an issue with anything I've bought from the numerous designers at Oscraps. I can't say the same thing about the designers at SBG.
Re: drama at DSA - of course there will be. People getting their panties in a twist because despite the full knowledge of cumulative scoring from the beginning of the challenges, people still don't like it.
September 15, 2010 1:31 PM
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Apparently there was not a full knowledge at the beginning of the challenge/contest that there would be cumulative scoring.
Coke & Nestle are getting free advertising so they probably don't care.
September 15, 2010 9:33 PM
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How do you figure that?
You know, one can see that trademark has been infringed without giving a shit enough to contact the authorities.
September 15, 2010 9:32 PM
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If you don't give a shit, why bother mentioning it at all?
I'm not the one that mentioned it, you guys were talking about it and I just butted in!
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Ah, I was talking to the person who mentioned it in the first place.
Obviously couldn't make it at Oscraps. I have to admit, I've never had an issue with anything I've bought from the numerous designers at Oscraps. I can't say the same thing about the designers at SBG.
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I never really noticed that she released anything at OScraps while she was there, I think people barely realized she was. Seems like she just moved a bunch of her items over from her personal store then expected everyone to miraculously know where she was. She's nutty, that one.
I have also never had a problem with anyone at OScraps, the whole community seems pretty drama-free - their designers don't go around making asses of themselves or acting like experts or authorities and their store owner seems to just tend to her own business and stay the hell out of everyone else's. CR seemed like an odd fit there from the start. SBG is probably more lucrative for her because they have that art journal/altered crowd. Plus I'm sure Maya is willing to stroke CR's ego routinely and will open up her giant yap to talk about how fantastic and groundbreaking CR is.
I agree. I always thought CR was an odd fit for Oscraps. I doubt she'll release anything at SBG either. During the SBG birthday celebrations, I noticed that CR brought out a lot of her old junk.
YES - I DID contact Deviant about the copyright issues with the Coke stuff. Emailed them right off when I saw it....and of course...got NO reply. Don't assume that because something is mentioned about it that no one did anything about it. I back up everything I say....and rarely talk out my ass. Gotta love people who have nothing better to do than make inane comments.
At the Designer Apprentice who is the designer who dropped out? Does anyone know?
YES - I DID contact Deviant about the copyright issues with the Coke stuff. Emailed them right off when I saw it....and of course...got NO reply. Don't assume that because something is mentioned about it that no one did anything about it. I back up everything I say....and rarely talk out my ass. Gotta love people who have nothing better to do than make inane comments.
September 16, 2010 8:11 AM
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What, like you? I never assumed you didn't action, I asked you if you did. Please learn to read!
At the Designer Apprentice who is the designer who dropped out? Does anyone know?
September 16, 2010 4:07 PM
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Go and look it up like the rest of us.
ON Designs did have a sale when they left. I bought quite a few things because I thought they were retiring from the business.
I went and looked up the DSA drama. Doesn't really seem like drama to me. Some designers are realizing they can't win and moving on. Makes sense in terms of where you want to put your time. No one is being mean or rude - well, except the people calling everyone whiners.
ON Designs did have a sale when they left. I bought quite a few things because I thought they were retiring from the business.
September 17, 2010 12:05 AM
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Yeah, they had a sale, but I thought they were just retiring the goods, not moving on.
First let me say that I love CD Muckosky's stuff she's really one of the few designers out there with original products. I was looking at her new products at the Lilypad and for the life of me can't figure out what one of the bushes says. It's the one in the middle with the ice cream cone. Something "treats" Gay treats?
http://www.the-lilypad.com/store/product.php?productid=4063&cat=127&page=1
Help me out.
Icy treats
Thanks
hahahahahahahaha
http://www.scrapbookgraphics.com/2010/09/first-ever-open-designer-call-at-scrapbookgraphics/
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what's so funny?
how weird that they charge back for paypal fees!
Maya needs the commission, monthly fee, collab money, and the paypal fees to pay her mortgage........ since she is such a horrible designer. to brag so much about being the inventor of digital scrapbooking, wouldn't you think she'd be a little better at it? bwaahaahaaa!
As for the women, they have horns, what were you thinking?
September 15, 2010 5:54 PM
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i was thinking of women in provocative poses. Not actual women with horns. JMHO but that seems dumb.
Take a look at this! I thought she was one of the original designers a few months ago. Not only that, but this is a "RE-RELEASE"! What did she change about it? It still has all the stuff in it! The nerve!
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/2596048-post46.html
ooops, forgot the link!
Has everyone noticed the new DST requirement that prior to uploading, you have to check the box certifying that you have the right/use all products & photos?
I bet this will shake a few loose.
SBG-- $25 server fee?? Is that typical? Seems excessive to charge paypal fees and a server fee...
Maya needs the commission, monthly fee, collab money, and the paypal fees to pay her mortgage........ since she is such a horrible designer. to brag so much about being the inventor of digital scrapbooking, wouldn't you think she'd be a little better at it? bwaahaahaaa!
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Where do you see all that? I clicked to read the info online, and i get an error page.
The image in the call says they are looking for "original" products. Now, what is the definition of "original" these days??
Oh and Maya is looking into something after the requests in the Scrap Talk about "poor me, i wanted to get this and that product from Mendy and i cannot now that the store is gone". To be continued.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
hahahahahahahaha
http://www.scrapbookgraphics.com/2010/09/first-ever-open-designer-call-at-scrapbookgraphics/
September 17, 2010 11:12 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
^^^^^^^^^^
what's so funny?
September 17, 2010 11:47 AM
What about it isn't funny?
You have to be UBER talented. LOLOLOL
Uber. Yeah.
"- be cooperative, friendly and respectful team players.
- provide the highest quality original products."
Well...that kinda eliminates like half the team at SBG doesnt it??
I have had quality issues with a designer at SBG and 2 at GP..none of them stepped up to do ANYTHING about it. Contacted the store..got the run around. I wont shop at either place again. I'm tired of all the bullshit.
Has everyone noticed the new DST requirement that prior to uploading, you have to check the box certifying that you have the right/use all products & photos?
I bet this will shake a few loose.
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lmao, they'll click yes and keep uploading. That's just to protect DST.
uber? So I guess if you aren't on Maya's friend list, you just aren't talented enough.
ok, lemme see. 15% to maya, plus about another 5% in paypal fees to maya....plus $25 per month for server fees? THAT my friends, is the most ridiculous thing I have EVER heard . Who in their right mind would apply???? just plain shakin my head here and laughin at the same time.
so...20 designers there now...she rakes in 500 bucks a month in server fees alone.
15% plus fees is reasonable. Another $25 a month on top of that isn't.
hahahahahahahaha
http://www.scrapbookgraphics.com/2010/09/first-ever-open-designer-call-at-scrapbookgraphics/
September 17, 2010 11:12 AM
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Well, that's a lie right there. This is not the first ever open call they've had. I know, because I applied to an open call they had which was about two, maybe three, years ago.
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And the open call she had when SBG went from solo to a commission store.
I have had quality issues with a designer at SBG
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What, only one? I've had quality issue with several designers at SBG.
ok, lemme see. 15% to maya, plus about another 5% in paypal fees to maya....plus $25 per month for server fees? THAT my friends, is the most ridiculous thing I have EVER heard . Who in their right mind would apply???? just plain shakin my head here and laughin at the same time.
September 17, 2010 5:56 PM
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It's called exposure. It does seem excessive, but I do believe that SBE also have a monthly designer fee, on top of the usual commission/pay pal fees.
15% plus fees is reasonable. Another $25 a month on top of that isn't.
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Yikes! $25 a month!
I used to work at a store about three years ago that had a monthly fee of $20, so $25 isn't that much really. If you make the sales, it's a small price. However, if you don't make the sales ...
I think 5% for Paypal is high. Its a base of 2.5% + change for each transaction. How does that equate to be 5%?
so...20 designers there now...she rakes in 500 bucks a month in server fees alone.
September 17, 2010 6:42 PM
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Assuming that every one of the designers pays that, which I doubt.
That is true, if you are making the sales that you should be in a big store like that. BUT the same kind of holds true for commission...if all her designers are earning, why do you need an extra fee on top of it?
most stores take a 20%-25% commission every month. If you made great money, (even good money) the $25 server fee every month saves you money from the higher commission. If you don't make the money that makes it worth it, you probably shouldn't be designing.
What, only one? I've had quality issue with several designers at SBG.
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I havent bought much from SBG..they are so friggin expensive!! {I was REALLY disappointed when Redju went over there!! though she did say her prices would stay the same..} I've bought from Manu {QC CRAP!!!}, Flergs {no comment!!}, Wendy, and...uhm yeah pretty sure that's it. But because of Maya's attitude, I wont be going back, except MAYBE for Redju & Amanda Rockwell..then again...AR has her own store on her own site.
Is something going on behind the scenes at ScrapMatters?
Firts Britt takes off for her own store, now Sahlin Studios is moving as well.
I thought SM was one of the better stores in digi, but what the heck?!? DId something happen?
I laugh at the statement: Maya rakes in $500 a month from server fees, statement.
The larger top stores have staff, that are paid in cash, not in product. I am not sure how many at SBG are paid, but I bet they have a person just for the store, the forum, newsletter and advertising.
I am not denying Maya is making a profit with the store, but I don't think she is raking it in off the server fees.
The customer base at these larger stores will spin your head and increase your bank account if you get in the door. Emphasis on IF.
The customer base at these larger stores will spin your head and increase your bank account if you get in the door. Emphasis on IF.
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Major IF.
I wonder if Maya consults the Queen Bitch (flergs) on who is allowed in or if she asks all the designers.
As for SM, I think they will be better off without Britt-ish. #1 Shes a bitch. #2 her disney kits are too close for comfort. I wouldnt buy one that's for sure. And I would NOT want to sell where she is.
wv: dingerop: as in you are a dingerop if you think you'll be asked to join SBG.
According to y'all, what is a reasonable commision? I'm not a store owner and I wouldn't want to be. Think about all the work you have to deal with.
Something must be going down at SBG to tack on so many fees like that. Commission should cover everything. Paypal, server, and, yes, profit. Profits are down, I bet, and she's nervous. Instead of increasing commission she adds fees so you can see where she spends your money, I guess.
There's so little risk in digital scrapbooking (no physical inventory, small startup investment) that is never ceases to amaze me how dramatically these people crash and burn. If you can't balance a checkbook or pay your mortgage you're better of doing something 9-5. Just sayin'.
It's only that much work if you're a drama queen that spends more time worrying about what people think of you than actually growing your business and taking care of your customers. If you know what you're doing it's a pretty easy gig. Name me one store owner who fits that profile though. If you can barely figure out how to turn on a computer you probably shouldn't get involved. It will end badly.
Posted in the Scrap Talk about Dutchie closing her store and Maya trying to do something for the "poor" customers who miss her products.
"Keeping my fingers crossed Maya, thanks so much for trying ! Her products were so so unique. "
Yeah... so so unique...*sigh*
More stores are adding fees because times are tough all over. It's just not the outside world suffering from a recession. If you don't add paypal fees, which you would pay in any case even if you had your own store, then paypal can take a nice chunk o change. As far as a monthly fee, I think not. I don't know any other store that asks for a monthly fee. A set up fee I can understand because one doesn't want designers coming and going and having a 6 month or year one time fee is a good way to see them stay around awhile especially since it's not refundable. And what the heck is this dicatating to designers how much they will perform. Well I guess if it's the only store you are in you can do that sort of thing but I'd rather spend my time designing.
I hate to tell Maya but she isn't the Queen of digital. There are a lot of great designers out there that have said NO to her because of her attitude. I would guess if she doesn't have teams doing QC on her designers then she is losing money from customers who have found problems, asked for them to be fixed and not gotten a response. Lousy customer service is enough to kill a store. I think part of the reason this store has survived at all is because many customers buy what they think is popular from who they think are the popular designers. All I can say to that is that there are a lot of customers losing out on lots of other great stuff out there.
Digital-Crea takes a 35% commission. It's huge.
I spend more than 80% of my digi budget at SBG. It's my favorite store, and have zero complaints. Any customer service issue I've had has been quickly and professionaly dealt with. So if y'all really hate SBG that much, where are you shopping that has the better quality stuff and better prices? hook me up, I'd like to know.
I wonder if Maya consults the Queen Bitch (flergs) on who is allowed in or if she asks all the designers.
As for SM, I think they will be better off without Britt-ish. #1 Shes a bitch. #2 her disney kits are too close for comfort. I wouldnt buy one that's for sure. And I would NOT want to sell where she is.
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this one's a bitch, that's one's a bitch.
and you seem very sweet!
your designs probably such too much to be where either of these ladies are.
LOL
I think you meant -
your designs probably SUCK too much
hahaha. With all of the "bitch slapping" going on, it does ring with a tinge of jealously, doens't it?
Most of you have no idea how much work it takes to run a GOOD LARGE store. Dedicated servers cost a lot of money. I hate to tell ya but many stores charge a monthly server fee. If you are in a big store making good money then it isn't much to pay really. You don't want to pay? Then go find a small store using cheap shared servers that crash and don't have backups. You'll lose way more than $25 when that happens. I'd rather pay a fee and rest easy knowing a store is well run and way less likely to crash.
I'm not a designer and have no idea how much stores usually charge, but out of curiousity I read the info from the designers' call and to me it sounded like a fair amount? Really, $25 to me doesn't seem like much at all. I mean if you're not making enough money off it that $25 is a concern to you, you really should rethink being a designer at all. Or perhaps just give out freebies on your blog. I can understand that would be alot if you're only pulling in $100 a month, but if that's the case your designs can't be very successful.
anyone else feel the same way?
100$ a month, I get the feeling that probably a lot of designers fall into that pool, the industry is quite underpriced. Of course the 100$ a month designers probably wouldn't be considered for SBG.
And now Karla Dudley is leaving The Digichick.
Is it unannounced store-hopping season?
Something must be going down at SBG to tack on so many fees like that. Commission should cover everything. Paypal, server, and, yes, profit. Profits are down, I bet, and she's nervous. Instead of increasing commission she adds fees so you can see where she spends your money, I guess.
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That is such an inane comment. Quite a few stores that I've had dealings with have had a monthly fee on top of the usual commission. It's called business. Yeah, that's what going on, business sense.
It's only that much work if you're a drama queen that spends more time worrying about what people think of you than actually growing your business and taking care of your customers. If you know what you're doing it's a pretty easy gig. Name me one store owner who fits that profile though.
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Theresa Hernandez at NDISB. It may not be a 'top tier' store, but her designers and customers come first.
As far as a monthly fee, I think not. I don't know any other store that asks for a monthly fee.
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SBE asks for one.
Flergs {no comment!!}
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Why? I've got some of her stuff and I've never had a quality issue.
My only complaint with her would be that she's a little phoney. When she started out, she was all over the forums, being super sweet, giving away stuff and now you don't see her at all. But I guess that's smacked her in the face too. Her new product threads at DST used to get a lot of replies and looks and now they don't.
Flergs {no comment!!}
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Why? I've got some of her stuff and I've never had a quality issue.
My only complaint with her would be that she's a little phoney. When she started out, she was all over the forums, being super sweet, giving away stuff and now you don't see her at all. But I guess that's smacked her in the face too. Her new product threads at DST used to get a lot of replies and looks and now they don't.
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That would be my problem, and the reason for my no comment. She went from being everyone's friend, and so sweet and nice, to now shes so focused on being angry about being pirated and people using her pu stuff commercially, or using her cu stuff without ever having bought it that she has become negative. She has become very clique-ish. She will only talk to you if she deems you are worth it. She has lost many a customer on twitter because of her attitude. Same with simply scraps, traci reed and a few others.
Speaking of snobs, I think I am still hung up on the designers at Sweet Shoppe thinking they can call a designer out for making a medical kit like one of their designers. Granted, the designer stole a few things from her (supposedly--i still dont think ALL of the items from the medical kit they claimed were stolen WERE) but geez. I loved that there was a major influx of medical kits released right after that happened!
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Maybe she just got fed up with all the bitchy attitude in this industry. Every newbie starts on forums, trying to make friends and asking the same questions (How do you make a page?) or they give freebies on their blogs for while. But when they realize that nobody cares about them and the freebie hunters just grab without even leaving a simple 'thank you', it's a slap in the face. Why care if your work is not appreciated? What's phoney.
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You obviously weren't around then when she started. That's not how it went down.
That would be my problem, and the reason for my no comment. She went from being everyone's friend, and so sweet and nice, to now shes so focused on being angry about being pirated and people using her pu stuff commercially, or using her cu stuff without ever having bought it that she has become negative. She has become very clique-ish.
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Behind the scenes, this is what she was like in the beginning. To the customers, in the front scenes, she was Miss Wonderful.
Posted in the Scrap Talk about Dutchie closing her store and Maya trying to do something for the "poor" customers who miss her products.
"Keeping my fingers crossed Maya, thanks so much for trying ! Her products were so so unique. "
Yeah... so so unique...*sigh*
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And someone just posted the link to Gunhild's tutorial (assuming the "unique" product was the popup templates!)
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The book template things Dutchie had weren't unique either. I'd seen them a few years ago somewhere else, can't remember where though.
It's only that much work if you're a drama queen that spends more time worrying about what people think of you than actually growing your business and taking care of your customers. If you know what you're doing it's a pretty easy gig. Name me one store owner who fits that profile though.
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I think the owners at The Lilypad and Oscraps fit that profile. At least I've never had problems there and their stores never seem to be in a "crisis" of some sort. Although some people say Amy Martin (owner of TLP is a real bitch). Neither store seems to have a lot of designer turnover either, other than designers who retire. Although Oscraps did just lose Christina Renee. What a blow that must have been to their business.
I always figure any store that's having an open designer call is probably desperate. Probably means any designer they've approached has said no (bad sign).
^^^ that part about Christina Renee in my previous post was soaked in sarcasm, btw. I'm sure no one cries over CR leaving.
Has CR even made anything new lately? I looked at her store, and it looks like the same stuff she had at Funky Playground Designs, before she went and made her own store, before her own store failed and she disappeared, and reappeared.
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That's what I was saying too. There's a couple of newish pieces, made maybe a year ago, but nothing really new that I can see.
Christina Renee stopped designing 2 years ago but she still tries to make money out of her old crap. Her quality always sucked (blurry, jaggies, loose pixels). She used to have interesting ideas (even though the execution was pretty bad) but that was a long time ago.
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Agreed.
Interesting little thing happened.
http://kellybellkits.blogspot.com/
A CT member for this designer posted her new kit on DST. It had the name Disneyland and Disney images and all that.
Then someone left a comment about copyright violations, and the designer was reported to Disney. Now the post at DST and her kit is taken down. That was fast. I hope Disney contacted her.
I wish these designers would finally learn that money is not worth integrity, and a huge lawsuit.
And this one?!? WTH?
http://www.coolscrapsdigital.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=3375
It's only that much work if you're a drama queen that spends more time worrying about what people think of you than actually growing your business and taking care of your customers. If you know what you're doing it's a pretty easy gig. Name me one store owner who fits that profile though.
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Theresa Hernandez at NDISB. It may not be a 'top tier' store, but her designers and customers come first.
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I'll second that. She is a genuinely a nice person, has been around 5 years now, went through a couple down times because of trusting the wrong host but always pulled herself up by the bootstrings.
Another store owner is Stacey Mann. I think at one time she had a reputation for what I'm not sure but she's been around a long time, has always had great designers, has always had a QC team and has ranked up there among the top 10 stores forever.
Julie Mead from E-scape and Scrap is a third store that has been around forever and though small she is one classy lady.
and there are several others who don't have the nonsense that goes on in many stores, are honest hardworking and treat their designers right.
I wish these designers would finally learn that money is not worth integrity, and a huge lawsuit.
laughing at this new kit from Tangie
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/new-digital-products-33/prim-%7B-rebecca-mcmeen-collection%7D-tangie-254184/
If those aren't mouse ears ........
You're stretching. Those are supposed to be the buns from the previous preview.
I'm sure the OP was tempering that post with sarcasm over the mouse ears unless I'm the one that assumed. LOL!
on another note - the comments about Dutchie's templates - do you really think the average consumer knows or cares that the idea came from somewhere else? Personally I don't, I bought some of her tag book templates and really liked them. I don't give a rats ass if it's an original idea or not. I bought them to use on a specific page I was making, and I was happy with the results. Isn't that the point?
I wish these designers would finally learn that money is not worth integrity, and a huge lawsuit.
laughing at this new kit from Tangie
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/new-digital-products-33/prim-%7B-rebecca-mcmeen-collection%7D-tangie-254184/
If those aren't mouse ears ........
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You're stretching. Those are supposed to be the buns from the previous preview.
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Scroll down and look at the preview for the accessories. We got a hat like that from Disney!
This is what her preview says....
"A Collection by artist Rebecca McMeen. Her designs have been featured in Country Home Living & numerous other publications; Her product designs have been chosen by companies such as Disney, Ballard's, Cracker Barrel & Hallmark! Her newest digital designs are available exclusively at Studio Tangie.
{The best part? She just so happens to be my mom too!}"
First, what does mouse ears have to do with a kit like this.
Second, because she has had her designs chosen by Disney, she can do mouse ears?
BTW, I think those are supposed to be mouse ears, or one really wierd looking hat.
http://kellybellkits.blogspot.com/
A CT member for this designer posted her new kit on DST. It had the name Disneyland and Disney images and all that.
Then someone left a comment about copyright violations, and the designer was reported to Disney. Now the post at DST and her kit is taken down. That was fast. I hope Disney contacted her.
Nope. Everything's still there. She's still selling the kit and a CTM just posted in CTM Enabling today (with preview way bigger than the rules allow.)
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/2597479-post4.html
Clearly those are supposed to be buns on the head of the character, not a freaking mouse hat. Jeez people.
About Tangie's Mom's designs....Obviously her hair has 2 little buns, but if you do scroll down to the "Prim Acessories" she has a cute little black hat...now it could be mouse ears or maybe it is a specially designed hat that fits right over the little buns of hair on her head?
Nope. Everything's still there. She's still selling the kit and a CTM just posted in CTM Enabling today (with preview way bigger than the rules allow.)
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It says that it is being re-released. Does that mean that the kit she just plugged is being re released or that they kit she is plugging is the re released version?
Because it is no longer on the designers blog/store.
What's the verdict on this week's Designer Apprentice?
Personally I don't, I bought some of her tag book templates and really liked them. I don't give a rats ass if it's an original idea or not. I bought them to use on a specific page I was making, and I was happy with the results. Isn't that the point?
September 19, 2010 8:46 AM
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Usually, yes. However, if someone claims they are original, when they are not, then there's a problem.
I thought the tag book templates looked tacky, but we all have different tastes.
now it could be mouse ears or maybe it is a specially designed hat that fits right over the little buns of hair on her head?
September 19, 2010 12:38 PM
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I'm not sure, but I think it is supposed to be a hat that fits over the buns of hair.
I would assume that it's just a hat that looks like it fits over the buns of the hair. How else would you draw a hat for hair like that?
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Even if it isn't supposed to be mouse ears, she should be more careful. Why would you want a hat anyway? And a hat like that doesn't fit the theme of the kit I think. I would have just stayed away from that whole look of "hat" anyway. JMO.
Who do you think is going to end up at SBG as a result of its Open Call?
Who do you think is going to end up at SBG as a result of its Open Call?
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Someone who has UBER-original products (or can convince Maya that they are UBER-original)
Has anyone applied yet?
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From what is said in this place, i doubt many FROM HERE would apply. But we'll just have to wait after the deadline and check the designer list at the store.
I don't know that a $25 monthly fee is all that bad in a store like SBG - after all, the designers there must be doing pretty well wouldn't you figure?
Interesting reply from Maya about Dutchie in the Scrap Talk:
"While Dutchie is no longer available to run her own business at Scrapbookgraphics, she has agreed to work freelance for us and will continue providing new products to us monthly which we will be distributing under a new Scrapbookgraphics brand, along with the work of other fabulous designers. "
"While Dutchie is no longer available to run her own business at Scrapbookgraphics, she has agreed to work freelance for us and will continue providing new products to us monthly which we will be distributing under a new Scrapbookgraphics brand, along with the work of other fabulous designers. "
My stomach hurts from laughing
OMG! She is starting a home brand with the rejects.
"While Dutchie is no longer available to run her own business at Scrapbookgraphics, she has agreed to work freelance for us and will continue providing new products to us monthly which we will be distributing under a new Scrapbookgraphics brand, along with the work of other fabulous designers. "
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Didn't she previously say she was too busy to design, so busy that she could not even post that she stopped selling, too busy to set up a retirement sale and such, but now, she is not available to run her business but has time to work freelance and continue providing monthly products. It just sounds like things are contradicting themselves (or is it just me seeing it this way?)
Sounds like Work-for-Hire with SBG holding all of the copyrights.
Sounds like a great way to get out of having to pay fees, or do store collabs. NICE! (Note the sarcasm).
Didn't she previously say she was too busy to design, so busy that she could not even post that she stopped selling, too busy to set up a retirement sale and such, but now, she is not available to run her business but has time to work freelance and continue providing monthly products. It just sounds like things are contradicting themselves (or is it just me seeing it this way?)
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Not just you. I thought the exact same thing when I read this response. Something is rotten in Denmark. Or Canada as it were.
Is Dutchie a real person?
Didn't she previously say she was too busy to design, so busy that she could not even post that she stopped selling, too busy to set up a retirement sale and such, but now, she is not available to run her business but has time to work freelance and continue providing monthly products. It just sounds like things are contradicting themselves (or is it just me seeing it this way?)
September 21, 2010 8:28 AM
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It would have made more sense if they'd come to this agreement before abruptly closing her store and all the gossip that ensued. I don't see it as contradicting though. Promoting ones self does take a lot of time and effort, and if you don't have time to do it you will not be successful. Surely there are other designers out there who would enjoy being able to focus on design without the hassle of promoting, customer service, CT management, and so on.
I don't know or care how original they were, but I liked her templates and am happy there will be new ones for me to buy.
Is Dutchie a real person?
September 21, 2010 12:14 PM
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Is Dutchie a real person?
September 21, 2010 12:14 PM
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September 21, 2010 1:49 PM
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Thanks, Maya!
It would have made more sense if they'd come to this agreement before abruptly closing her store and all the gossip that ensued. I don't see it as contradicting though. Promoting ones self does take a lot of time and effort, and if you don't have time to do it you will not be successful. Surely there are other designers out there who would enjoy being able to focus on design without the hassle of promoting, customer service, CT management, and so on.
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Considering all the requirements that are asked from SBG girls, i guess Dutchie is getting a good deal if she does not have to do all that, like the other ones.
" ... a new Scrapbookgraphics brand, along with the work of other fabulous designers. "
Soooo .... what ... any guesses on the new SBG branding name?
SBG Lite ?
And what will these designers be called? Not Studio Girls but what? Closet Girls?
What a way to cash in. Audition products for sale?
Maya tried to do something like this last year. She put out a call and asked for designers willing to sign over their designs and get a straight commission. It would be sold as Scrapbookgraphics designers, if I remember correctly. Something like that. Your name wouldn't be attached to the product--SBG's would. I don't think anyone ever took her up on it...until now.
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sorry, not straight commission, but a flat rate.
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Does it mean the designer would give the copyright to Maya? So, you design a kit, then get paid let's say $20 for it and then Maya can do whatever she wants with it until the end of time?
What a way to get screwed!
Maya tried to do something like this last year. She put out a call and asked for designers willing to sign over their designs and get a straight commission. It would be sold as Scrapbookgraphics designers, if I remember correctly. Something like that. Your name wouldn't be attached to the product--SBG's would. I don't think anyone ever took her up on it...until now.
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Kudos to Maya for thinking of how to squeeze a blood from a stone but you'd have to be an idiot to take her up on it. If you're good enough to sell @ SBG why wouldn't you want your name attached to it? Really? Someone would consider doing this?
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Does it mean the designer would give the copyright to Maya? So, you design a kit, then get paid let's say $20 for it and then Maya can do whatever she wants with it until the end of time?
What a way to get screwed!
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No kidding! How can you put a flat rate price on something untried? What if it flops? What if it kicks ass?
No deal.
I wonder if any suckers will fall for it?
you guys are really a bunch of dumbasses. Do you not realize this is how things are done in the paper world?
pull those heads outta those asses!
Divine's down again? What's Royanna's sob story this time?
you guys are really a bunch of dumbasses. Do you not realize this is how things are done in the paper world?
pull those heads outta those asses!
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I don't do paper. No room for it.
The only way someone should CONSIDER selling their products for a flat rate is do it as a
"per item sold". Is that how they do it in paper?
I can see a flat rate for paper. If you sell a "batch", so much $$ per batch or order ... but it's a limited quantity of how many items can be sold. 500 papers, 500 sold.
Downloads are a different beast. You could sell 5 or 500. There's no limit.
This dumbass stands by her original post.
don't do paper. No room for it.
The only way someone should CONSIDER selling their products for a flat rate is do it as a
"per item sold". Is that how they do it in paper?
I can see a flat rate for paper. If you sell a "batch", so much $$ per batch or order ... but it's a limited quantity of how many items can be sold. 500 papers, 500 sold.
Downloads are a different beast. You could sell 5 or 500. There's no limit.
This dumbass stands by her original post.
September 21, 2010 5:46 PM
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uhh dummy do you think the papers are printed piece by piece from a regular old inkjet? No, they are printed with a professional printer in reams. They can also sell 5-unlimited in the paper world.
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uhh dummy do you think the papers are printed piece by piece from a regular old inkjet? No, they are printed with a professional printer in reams. They can also sell 5-unlimited in the paper world.
September 21, 2010 6:48 PM
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No, I'm thinking that I'm not familiar with paper products, Mz. Illiterate. I don't work with paper so I'm not familiar with how it works.
Try and read through the entire post this time. If you try really hard, I'll bet even you can do it.
There's a difference between being a dumbass and not being familiar with the paper process.
So what happens? You come up with a design and submit it to a paper company as an .EPS and then they buy your design and print off however many they want to?
So to use another example, they pay you $20 for a paper design and then they are free to run 500 copies?
If you're good enough to sell @ SBG why wouldn't you want your name attached to it?
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is in the air of snootness and if they are better severe and like cult.
So to use another example, they pay you $20 for a paper design and then they are free to run 500 copies?
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where are you getting this $20 from? Is that really what you think people are being paid? holy shit .... you'd have to be a dumbass to think that's a realistic figure.
oh, and I'm not the OP ....
how would that work for a scrap store? That seems like a really bad gamble.
where are you getting this $20 from? Is that really what you think people are being paid? holy shit .... you'd have to be a dumbass to think that's a realistic figure.
September 21, 2010 8:20 PM
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You'd have to be a dumbass to think she meant that sum literally. Sheesh. I'm guessing she plucked a figure out of the air.
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Is Dutchie a real person?
September 21, 2010 12:14 PM
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September 21, 2010 1:49 PM
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Thanks, Maya!
September 21, 2010 2:01 PM
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geez you're an idiot. Even I know Dutchie is a real person and I'm not Maya.
I'm not sure how the paper companies work, but quite a few digi designers design for paper companies. Some of them have their names attached to the product and some don't. I'm guessing it's a reasonable deal either way, as they continue to do it, so it must be worth the time and money.
You'd have to be a dumbass to think she meant that sum literally. Sheesh. I'm guessing she plucked a figure out of the air.
September 21, 2010 8:50 PM
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Thank you, yes. I pulled the number from the previous example.
I notice that Mz. Molly Sunshine still didn't answer my question, preferring to pursue her career in mediocre name calling.
I'm still wondering how paper works.
Kisses, The Curious Dumbass
Scrap Orchard pushed the "early bird" price for their Vegas convention back pretty far. Is it safe to assume that they are not getting the response they wanted?
Is that the same Vegas convention that Tangie is going too?
Is it even worth the money? What kind of classes will they have. I tried to read and see but it looks like they don;t even know what they will be having. I don;t want to pay for something I don;t know I will want.
I don't want to go to Vegas.
hahaha, Vegas is not so bad, especially when you are in the hotel the whole time in workshops.
Jeez, is it a full moon? Everyone seems extra bitchy.
Everyone? really? I don't see everyone being bitchy. I see two or three, but not everyone.
For the person not familiar with the paper industry: You design a paper. or a set of papers. They pay you per paper, or for the set. There are going rates for this...I'm not sure what they are. But, lets use your $20 example. You give them permission to distribute under their name - as many copies as they can sell - one or a million doesn't matter. You got your $20 bucks, you get nothing more. A contract is signed - you can't change your mind later...you can't go back and say, gee you made thousands and I got $20? That is how it works.
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Thank you for explaining the paper process. That was enlightening.
I would think the only way to get ahead in the paper business though, would be to establish some kind of name recognition if you're any good.
Unless you just enjoy making product for someone else to sell.
Although i hope that $20 is far from what is paid for a paper design, i guess the difference between that and digital design is that for digital, you do it all, and the "distributor" has nothing to do, while the paper company might take your design, but then has to do the printing, with the equipement, use ink, paper, etc. so it DOES cost that company something.
In a digital store, giving away your "copyright" so to speak really does not save you ANYTHING. Whatever the store/owner makes from selling them, is what the designer would have made in the first place. All in all, i am not sure how logical it is to give that away so easily.
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All in all, i am not sure how logical it is to give that away so easily.
September 22, 2010 12:50 PM
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It's not logical unless you really suck as a designer and you don't expect to make more than $20 per product (to keep the same example). Than, you get a good deal. You can provide sub-par products and you'll get your $20 anyway. There is always someone who'd get screwed with a contract like that.
Ok - the real scoop - I've designed for paper before. You submit a design, if the company likes it they pay you a reasonable fee (not $20) for all rights to your design. Or, if you don't go freelance, you actually work for the company and design on their behalf under their brand name and are paid a salary. Either way, it can be very lucrative. No real need for name recognition if you're with a big enough company. Their name sells the product, not yours.
Ok, I sent an email to the SBG email addy because I wanted to see what info they had on their auto responder, and got nothing back. They are not going to get many people applying if they can't even get the information for applying!
Hmm on the other hand, maybe it is a test to see how keen you are by waiting to see if contact them directly???
Looks like Dutchie is finally having that retirement sale.... hahaha. That's funny!
Perhaps it went to your spam? I got the automatic response package and it is a nice package.
It seemed very professional looking, did find one typo, with spelled wiht, but I can forgive that.
I'm applying with hopes I am uber enough to make the cut!
I'm tempted to apply just so I can no if I get accepted.
Perhaps it went to your spam? I got the automatic response package and it is a nice package.
It seemed very professional looking, did find one typo, with spelled wiht, but I can forgive that.
I'm applying with hopes I am uber enough to make the cut!
September 23, 2010 12:40 AM
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Nope, sent it twice and didn't get it either time, wasn't in my spam box either, checked that twice as well.
Ok, submitted an application just to see how I would go.. shall be interesting.
So if you could design any store you wanted, which store would it be and why?
I'm already right where I want to be. I wouldn't apply at SBG for anything. I'm damn good, my products sell, I'm making money. Why would I change anything? Why would I want to "see" if I could be accepted at SBG? Just so I could join a bunch of snooty broads, who think, by association with SBG that no matter what you come up with, you will always be subpar?
I'm curious too, what do you think would be the best stores to sell at?
I sold at SBG for a time, and no one there was snotty or thought everyone else was subpar. I don't get all the hatred, seriously.
It's not exactly "hatred". Its being sick and tired of all the "we're wonderful, you're not UBER" attitude. The bullshit associated with that wonderfulness....and the fact that they themselves sell subpar products (quality wise) and get away with it simply because they are The Studio.
Non-Studio question: NOW what is up with Divine Digital? Account suspended again???? LMAO! and there are comments on the FB page saying.....poor Royanna....
and speaking of royanna did you see how on facebook she is whinging about how horrid her webhost is and that they dont care for customers and then yes wait for it.... her webhost responds on her whingy post with
"Stating that we could care less is utterly false and far far from the Truth. Host Duplex has bent over backwards for Divine Digital since Day 1. We've provided nothing but the best service and experience as we possibly can. The quality of... your server, speed, and our support staff have been nothing but exceptional. We have provided you with the best hosting experience possible. We've donated tens of hours of our own time and money to helping you in these tough times. Unfortunately, we can only extend our hand so far. The rest lies upon Royanna and Divine Digital. We've done everything and much much more. Good luck to Royanna. You can always reach me by phone or via email when you are ready to get back online."
sounds to me like someone is spending way to many days at disneyland and cant pay the bills. then she posts again whinging about how she really really hates her webhost. Honey if you dont pay your electric they turn your lights off and if you dont pay your webhost they suspend your account so please all those people feeling so sorry for royanna wake up and smell the unpaid bills - she is not spending day and night trying to get the site back all she has to do is come up with the money and pay the webhost
^^^Funny!
And why do we care anymore? Is it because it is one of those bad accidents that you can't help but turn and look at on the highway?
I sold at SBG for a time, and no one there was snotty or thought everyone else was subpar. I don't get all the hatred, seriously.
September 23, 2010 8:01 AM
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I don't see hatred, seriously. I see people who are fed up. I don't agree with the posts talking about the snooty and superior attitudes of the designers, as I've never seen that, except from Maya and some CT and some customers. The designers I've dealt with at SBG have been really nice.
I sold at SBG for a time,
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Curious, why did you leave? Did you retire?
I know this question may cause some of you to throw up in your mouth but....does anyone know what has happened to Dani at SSD?
I saw that she had a baby but she hasnt added anything to the Shoppe for months.....
Just wondering....
I don't agree with the posts talking about the snooty and superior attitudes of the designers, as I've never seen that, except from Maya and some CT and some customers. The designers I've dealt with at SBG have been really nice.
September 23, 2010 7:25 PM
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Snooty CT? How can CT be snooty?
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Are you kidding?
They can be snooty in the same way a designer can be snooty, in fact, they are often worse.
How come so many made a fuss about Disney kits and ears and no one mentioned this:
http://sahlinstudio.blogspot.com/2010/09/heads-up-mousescrappers.html
How come so many made a fuss about Disney kits and ears and no one mentioned this:
http://sahlinstudio.blogspot.com/2010/09/heads-up-mousescrappers.html
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Maybe because everyone is watching DST instead of blogs and didn't see it. I agree that it is darn close to a copyright/trademark violation. I would not eve try to win it.
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True.
On a related note: I see that Britt-ish Designs has a Disney-themed kit coming out this week. Did I not get the memo that everyone should have at least one Disney kit in their design collection?
sounds to me like someone is spending way to many days at disneyland and cant pay the bills. then she posts again whinging about how she really really hates her webhost. Honey if you dont pay your electric they turn your lights off and if you dont pay your webhost they suspend your account so please all those people feeling so sorry for royanna wake up and smell the unpaid bills - she is not spending day and night trying to get the site back all she has to do is come up with the money and pay the webhost
if you go to her personal facebook page she tells you that her hubby lost his job again, they have to be out of the house in two weeks, her health is poor, no insurance, no money, etc., yet she has pictures posted from a very recent trip to disney. she's there so much, why doesn't she try to get a job there?
seriously, she's the best scam artist i've ever seen!
I still say Roybanana is a drag queen.
maybe they can live in the car again. did before, so she said, but still managed to post on her blog.
I wish she would just fess up, say its over with, and everyone there could move on instead of believing the bullshit she dishes out.
One thing that i find kind of annoying, is that sometimes, statements are true (like loosing a job, a house, having medical expenses) but honestly, i dont think it is that much needed to post it for everyone to see. I am sure many designers might go through similar hardship without half the world knowing about it. Advertising those facts (when they are true) left and right just "looks" like a call for pity. Maybe that is what it is, but it can sure become annoying.
I wish she would just fess up, say its over with, and everyone there could move on instead of believing the bullshit she dishes out.
i can't believe that there are designers that still want to be associated with her/divine digital. hopefully they'll pull their heads out of their butts and go somewhere else. i know i would.
Hah my husband just called me because our Paypal notifications go to his email address... "What the heck are you buying at Cats Crap.com?" He thought it was some funky cat litter store or something. I never noticed that before.
Looks like Brittish designs included at least one element with mouse ears..... UGH! When are people going to learn?
She also has this one....total infringement! And one layout I saw with this has a clone trooper head in it too. Pretty sure the scrapper would not have designed it herself. People are so stupid!
http://www.brittishdesigns.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5&products_id=69
I doubt they will learn until someone actually gets in trouble for it. I'm thinking if Disney doesn't care, why should we? I'm not buying or designing Disney-ish stuff, but I'm kind of over the policing of everybody else.
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Why? It's this attitude that has caused this world to be in the mess it's in. The whole 'it's not my problem, so why bother'.
no, it's really not. It's been taken directly to Disney. Disney said, we can't really tell you whether it's a violation or not. And they have yet to act on it. It's not worth the wasted energy to rant on and on about. Obviously, if Disney thought it was worth their time, they would have taken care of it. If Disney doesn't care, why do we?
Coz there is nothing else to talk about?
I care because it is illegal. I don't base my judgment of illegal activity on whether or not someone is going to be caught or punished. It's wrong, the designers know it is wrong and do it anyway. So I like to know, because I won't be shopping from them.
Most pirates defend their piracy with similar arguments - that they won't get caught, that it doesn't hurt the big corporations, that they've been reported before and no one did anything. I doesn't make it right.
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Totally agree. And it is not fair for some of us designers who do follow the law to have these designers not only making bank off of it while us honest ones sit back and have it all happen and not do anything about it.
I think Disney probably contacts them because a few designers have stopped but I don't think they give legal advice.
amen! what about then maya at sbg not doing anything about copyright infringer tangie who is using marilyn monroe and elizabeth taylor among others. we know she didn't take the photos. if it was paparazzi they own it. i don't get it. why she get away with this? no my panties are not in a wad. just don't get it. sbg designers DO think they are something else. SBG CT DO think they are something else too. all a bunch of snoots. it's a cult over there and if you aren't in you better get out. if you want in you're an ass. unless you like to kiss ass you will be fine then.
Wow, you really have issues.
no my panties are not in a wad. just don't get it. sbg designers DO think they are something else. SBG CT DO think they are something else too. all a bunch of snoots. it's a cult over there and if you aren't in you better get out. if you want in you're an ass. unless you like to kiss ass you will be fine then.
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Sounds more like your panties are on too tight.
I'll need to see some MM and ET links in Tangie's store to believe you on the whole paparazzi infringement thing. I thought those were @ DS not SBG and a completely different designer. The whole Horny Women thing.
I kinda like the snooty women thing. Designers .... anyone?
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Again, there was Liz Taylor in Horny Women, but no Marilyn. There is also Hayley Mills.
sbg designers DO think they are something else.
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They do? You actually know what they think? Wow, I'm impressed. I'm always impressed when someone thinks they know what someone else is thinking. Sounds like your insecurity is showing.
They is a lot of insecure and jealous women here!
Dislike does not always equal jealousy. That is so lame.
Dislike does not always equal jealousy. That is so lame.
September 25, 2010 4:54 AM
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If you're going to write such tripe at least make it interesting.
The first commenter went way beyond dislike. Come on.
To say that people are in a cult b/c they are on a CT or a designer at a particular store? Quite a bit much more than "dislike". 'Tis a bit much, imho.
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I sold at SBG for a time,
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Curious, why did you leave? Did you retire?
I didn't retire, I couldn't be in two places at once so I had to choose. And with this I might just have signed this post, lol! ;)
I didn't retire, I couldn't be in two places at once so I had to choose. And with this I might just have signed this post, lol! ;)
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It must not be easy to be a "good/established" designer and go to an exclusive store.
recognize anyone? http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Hand-Cut-Collage-Fodder-Face-Parts.html
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