She already gave you one, the one in the preview mentioned a few posts up.
But there are lots of others and I know exactly what she means. The same thing happens at Halloween, Easter, Mother's and Father's Day, all those back to school kits.
Every single one of those elements that is photographed and extracted was actually designed by someone, and has copyright attached to it.
Obviously you aren't versed in Copyright Laws. Everything in our lives is made by someone else. There is a lot out there that has no copyright attached at all. If something isn't copyright and/or is the public domain then why the hell not use it. We go with the old argument and that is if customers didn't want the real looking stuff then we wouldn't be having this discussion. This all came about when customers wanted ribbons that looked real not digitized and then it was other stuff they wanted. Now that's what you see in kits.
I do see many kits going back to more non-real looking, ie looking like it was designed in photoshop and not scanned or photographed. Everything seems to come full circle so maybe, just maybe we are going back to the beginning where customers don't want the real looking stuff any longer. That would be nice - we would lose a whole lot of designers because they don't know how to design in their programs without extractions!!
Has there been a review of Funky Playground yet? There are a couple kits that I am thinking about purchasing from there, but they are from designers I have never tried before and I am wondering if the quality of work is worth the money or not. I hate spending my money only to be disappointed.
You are wrong, I am very very well versed on copyright. Very basic craft supplies are not covered buy copyright (things like ribbon and cardstock) but as soon as something has a finished design, it is covered by copyright. So, Christmas ornaments, Halloween ornaments, Easter ornaments, statues, ornate frames, floral arrangements...those are all covered by copyright. As for public domain, that really only comes into play for the vintage stuff. There is actually extremely little that isn't covered by copyright.
Designers keep making the argument that since craft supplies are sold to crafter with the knowledge that they will make things and sell them, it must be OK for digital too - but it's not the same thing at all because crafters buy one and use it and sell one ... they don't buy one and photograph it and sell as many as they want.
Anyways, maybe you are right, maybe we will see it come full circle and people will not want those things in their kits.
Or maybe the craft industry will become more aware of what is going on and take steps to try to stop it. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
Has there been a review of Funky Playground yet? There are a couple kits that I am thinking about purchasing from there, but they are from designers I have never tried before and I am wondering if the quality of work is worth the money or not. I hate spending my money only to be disappointed. -------- Who are they? I've bought from them for awhile now and know who to stay away from.
you hate spending $5 only to be disappointed? jesus christ. ^^^^ You don't mind throwing money away? I'll send you my PO Box and you can send me $5 and I'll give you nothing.
You are wrong, I am very very well versed on copyright. Very basic craft supplies are not covered buy copyright (things like ribbon and cardstock) but as soon as something has a finished design, it is covered by copyright. So, Christmas ornaments, Halloween ornaments, Easter ornaments, statues, ornate frames, floral arrangements...those are all covered by copyright. As for public domain, that really only comes into play for the vintage stuff. There is actually extremely little that isn't covered by copyright.
If that were the case ribbon company 1 would be suing ribbon company 2 for a look alike ribbon. Scrapbbook Company 1 would be suing Scrapbook Company 2, 3, and 4 for all the look alike flowers. Stamp Company 1 would be suing Stamp Company 2 for the same graphics. Tim Holtz would be suing 7 Gypies for look alike elements. Things coming out of China and 3rd world countries have little or no copyrights attached to their products. The only copyrights from those products are ones made specifically for JoAnns, Michaels, Hobby Lobby, Hallmark and the like.
Also I can create an item and put it into the public domain. It's not just vintage that comes under Public Domain. I think you need to do some more research as you don't know what you are talking about. Sorry!!
I use Public Domain items in my kits and I have absolutely no calms about doing so. The artist, photographer or whoever gave that permission to happen and I have gotten whatever from totallly Public Domain sites.
No calms? I thought you'd be quite calm if you were getting it from public domain sites, although, personally I'd be nervous too as some of those images etc on public domain sites do not belong to the person who put them there.
Things coming out of China and 3rd world countries have little or no copyrights attached to their products. The only copyrights from those products are ones made specifically for JoAnns, Michaels, Hobby Lobby, Hallmark and the like. < snip> I think you need to do some more research as you don't know what you are talking about. Sorry!!
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Wrong, wrong, wrong as can be. I think you need do some more research too.
you wouldn't be getting nothing. you'd be getting scrap product. have you never spent $4 on a box of cereal you ended up thinking was shitty? tough shit, you move on amd don't buy that cereal next time.
There are two Hello Kitty elements, which I believe would be covered under copyright, unless you go with the one who says anything from China isn't copyrighted?!
That claim about stuff coming out of China used to be true but it hasn't been for years.
And you have pretty much no idea who is suing who these days for copyright claims - it doesn't get publicly announced. Scrapbook Company A could be suing Scrapbook Company B, and Scrapbook Company B could be suing Scrapbook Company A at the same time for a different item. Companies regularly steal each others ideas and technology, they weigh the costs of a lawsuit against the potential profit and decide if it's worth it or not. They also regularly settle with each other over different cases of copyright infringement instead of suing. Don't assume that becuase you didn't hear about it it isn't in litigation.
Regarding public domain sites - a lot of photographers don't understand copyright themselves. They think they own the copyright to the photograph so they put it in the public domain - but they didn't own the right to the object being in the photograph in the first place, so it doesn't mean that the item (statue, frame, ornament, or whatever) is actually in the public domain.
That claim about stuff coming out of China used to be true but it hasn't been for years.
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Since 1979 in fact.
And you are absolutely correctly about photographers, a lot of them aren't aware of copyright either, or don't think that it may apply to certain public monuments and buildings.
For instance, I can take a photograph of the Eiffel Tower with the lights on at night and use it for my own purposes, but I cannot sell that photograph. However, the Eiffel Tower during the day is free for all and I can sell as many of those photographs as I wish.
Has there been a review of Funky Playground yet? There are a couple kits that I am thinking about purchasing from there, but they are from designers I have never tried before and I am wondering if the quality of work is worth the money or not. I hate spending my money only to be disappointed. -------- Who are they? I've bought from them for awhile now and know who to stay away from. --------
I was mostly looking at stuff from Pixelily and Crossbone Cuts. These kits in particular, but there are a couple things from both I am interested in getting.
There are two Hello Kitty elements, which I believe would be covered under copyright, unless you go with the one who says anything from China isn't copyrighted?! ------------------------------ Yup, blatant violation of copyright and probably trademark laws.
I was mostly looking at stuff from Pixelily and Crossbone Cuts. These kits in particular, but there are a couple things from both I am interested in getting.
Why wait on a review from some else? They just look at the previews. They are not actually going by an unzipped product. If you like what you see, buy it! Its your layout.
I was mostly looking at stuff from Pixelily and Crossbone Cuts. These kits in particular, but there are a couple things from both I am interested in getting.
I would just buy it if I liked it. From what I can tell, the people "reviewing" these stores are just looking at previews. They are going by very few opened products. You can review that yourself and have a better judge on what you like. If you are wanting someone else's view on it. I think they both use weird color schemes on all their kits. There are one or two of Pixelily's I would buy and none of Crossbone Cuts. But that says nothing to their quality. Just that my taste differs from theirs. If you like them, buy them. They could be right up your alley. Don't go buy what other people like. Just my two cents...or more. ;)
And you are absolutely correctly about photographers, a lot of them aren't aware of copyright either, or don't think that it may apply to certain public monuments and buildings.
As with the Eiffel Tower it only applies to monuments if they are on private property, if there is a Trademark or Licensing Law allowing or disallowing usage, etc. A photo of the Eiffel Tower during the day may be used but the reason it can't be done at night is that the light show that lights the tower up has special licenses attached to it. You can't use items on Disney property because Disney, the name, is trademarked and any thing associated with Disney is Trademarked. But, some companies have been allowed the use of the Disney images by getting permission from Disney and paying them huge licensing fees for such usuage.
Copyright law, Trademark Law and Licensing for Commercial Use isn't just set dried in stone rule or rules. It's totally complicated and unless one is a licensed Copyright/Trademark Attorney which I doubt anyone on this Blog is then it's probably best not to make blanket statements, which from what I can tell has been done with this entire subject, on this Blog over and over again.
The information about the Eiffel Tower and Disney can be found easily enough as to their policy of being photographed and such used for Commercial Use.
I was mostly looking at stuff from Pixelily and Crossbone Cuts. These kits in particular, but there are a couple things from both I am interested in getting.
I've used Pixelily's stuff before (not as her CT). Some of her kits are really far from my usual style so I'd probably never buy them, but the ones I worked with are of good quality and I ended up liking the pages a lot.
That claim about stuff coming out of China used to be true but it hasn't been for years.
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You don't have to be an international copyright lawyer to know this. Quit trying to justify your theft of dollar store items that you are photographing and extracting and putting in your kits.
or don't think that it may apply to certain public monuments and buildings.
As with the Eiffel Tower it only applies to monuments if they are on private property, if there is a Trademark or Licensing Law allowing or disallowing usage, etc. ------
I clearly said certain, did I not? Why, yes I did. Nothing blanket about that.
I don't come here very often but it seems like I recall reading something about an "Alyssa". Call me stupid, but I can't seem to find anything about it in a search. I could read back through a bunch of posts but I'm guessing some of the regulars on here will know right off the top of their head if/where there was something posted about it. Is this the "Happy Tits" person, or was there some other drama about someone named Alyssa? The reason I wonder is because someone named Alyssa seems to be "coming out of hiding" again (based on something a friend told me)and I'm wondering if it's her. Any thoughts?
Please do read back. I can assure you it's not that hard to find. Too many things have been going on. Too many stuff have been discussed about her for too long a time. In short, she opened a shop: With Love Studio. Designers have been warned. Some stay away and some don't. We generally don't think the place looks promising, for too many reasons.
With Love Studio is Alyssa's shop? I'm hearing that she is applying to be a designer at other shops, so what's up with that? ^^^ I know she's at Digiscrap Cafe. I was offered a position there, but once I found out she was there, I respectfully declined.
She is also part of the blog train, so she's trying to act respectable. Trying being the key word. Wouldn't trust her with anything.
^^^nothing respectable about this coming month's blog train. I can't wait to see if even one designer can create something non-hideous with that fugly palette. it's the worst one yet, literally the worst one I have ever seen.
^^^nothing respectable about this coming month's blog train. I can't wait to see if even one designer can create something non-hideous with that fugly palette. it's the worst one yet, literally the worst one I have ever seen. --------
Agree! Anyone who comes up with anything even half way decent will be this month's big winner. It's bad. The yellow? looks like vomit and the rose color is horrifying.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes, the palette is ugly. And the designers taking part (or who wanted to take part) couldn't even vote on it. Trish chose it herself.
I don't think they are all a loss. There are several that might have some useful pieces, be it some of the elements and/or papers. So far I will probably at least download the following for a look:
Mye de Leon Jumpstart Designs Snips and Snails Blue Flower Art Studio 68 Dawn by Design
Sounds like a comment from someone who picked out a hard to use/ugly palette.
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Yes, this. The palette is fugly and obnoxious. It has nothing to do w/ a designer's ability to use a palette. It has to do with scrappers' abilities to use a palette to document their memories, and that palette is just goddamn awful. No two ways about it. Saddest part? People will still download it in droves, because it's free.
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Yeah? You'd be wrong, I had no part in the palette, I'm not even in the DCR.
From what I've seen in Photobucket, thanks to a previous poster for providing the information, there are some designers who are making it work and others who aren't.
Simple deduction my dear, no conspiracy.
Sounds like someone who can't make the palette work.
A competent designer should be able to take any palette and make it work. I saw some interesting kits. Just because you think it's fugly doesn't necessarily mean everyone does. Obviously you'd like everyone to believe what you believe-sorry Charly.
Ok I had to unfriend MyFourhens Photography she acts all higher than holy and seriously it's to much... One of her posts: "I can not even begin to fathom being so close to 30,000 likes on this page" what an ass she holds contests and giveaways everyone knows you have to like the page to be entered! Another Post: Just a friendly reminder. The 10.00 Gift code (my way of saying Merry Christmas and I appreciate you all so much) is only intended to be used ONCE (and that is once per household). Thank you so much for all you do and taking time to "like" my page! I really love to do these random things, especially for such a special occasion but can't afford for the code to be used multiple times... umm I think you can afford alot more than you say and again you ass you had to like the page... you gush almost once a day about how your going shopping and gushing about what your going to buy your kids seriously!! We all read about your wonderful business and we all know that when & your online friends need a boost in income you put on a sale to keep that family going oh no wait that's Thanks to God Seriously sick of her plugging ClickNMoms and Ephipane bags yes another great business venture but so sick of hearing about it who wants to pay for that crap when the world wide web is basically giving it for free and that's how she claims she learned it all so STFU already! Please don't start with oh she's so sweet and she doesn't have to do this stuff your right but she loves the attention and is selling herself so yes she has to do it to keep those 4 kids and hubby happy so stuff it! Ok laters....
^^Have you been living in a hole? That is how people making a living with an online business promote themselves. They try to balance making themselves a "person" to their fan base with marketing their products. She's not really doing anything different than anyone else pimping themselves on Facebook.
What is ClickNMoms? I have never heard of it. I do like MyFourHens though she does come off sometimes as spoiled and full of herself. I have to agree with the person who posted about how is she any different than any other photographer or business out there that does the same. She is not all that different.
@ 10:50am ----- may I suggest that you get back on your meds? that was one crazy rant, my friend. even if your point/s were valid, you negated any chance you had of anyone EVER listening by being so crazy. the run-on sentences didn't help your case much, either; nor did the very random out-of-the-blue-stream-of-consciousness appearance of such a random topic popping up. seems like you got your panties in a wad over something most of us would have just "unliked" and been on our merry way. wow. meds, girlfriend, meds.
If I were in this blogtrain, I believe I would offer a tutorial on how to change colors the right way. I'd even offer swatches of a couple different (more pleasing) color palettes because the existing one is hideous.
Looking at the list of designers taking part in the January blog train, it seems smaller than previous months. (Didn't count, just seems smaller.) Must have something to do with the palette.
Looking at the list of designers taking part in the January blog train, it seems smaller than previous months. (Didn't count, just seems smaller.) Must have something to do with the palette.
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Bingo.
Last few months, it was 100+ designers. This month, it's maybe 70. I also have a feeling that a few of those 70 may be dropping out, b/c Trish went on vacation and isn't keeping up with this during the week before it launches, big surprise. She refuses to let anyone who volunteers help her organize it, but she isn't staying on top of things by herself.
Probably time for someone else to start a new blog train.
Another Post: Just a friendly reminder. The 10.00 Gift code (my way of saying Merry Christmas and I appreciate you all so much) is only intended to be used ONCE (and that is once per household). Thank you so much for all you do and taking time to "like" my page! I really love to do these random things, especially for such a special occasion but can't afford for the code to be used multiple times... umm I think you can afford alot more than you say and again you ass you had to like the page... you gush almost once a day about how your going shopping and gushing about what your going to buy your kids seriously!! We all read about your wonderful business and we all know that when & your online friends need a boost in income you put on a sale to keep that family going oh no wait that's Thanks to God ----------------- Your whole post just makes you sound like such a bitter person. First off just because her page has almost 30,000 likes doesn't mean they are all paying customers.
God I hope you're not a designer, and if you are I am guessing you're one of those happy with pulling in 20 bucks each month.
She gave a $10.00 code out to be nice, to have customers turn around and take advantage, registering new e-mail address', and using it multiple times, it doesn't matter how rich or well off a person is, that is rude.
At least she gave people the benefit of the doubt and a reminder before having to turn it off. Anyone with an ounce of business sense would have done the same as she did.
I'm a bit disappointed. I bought some kits from Design House Digital and have opened them to find problems: jagged wordart that looks like its been scanned in and upsized way too much, only it's small to start with. And there are shadows on a lot of elements, and they are at a different angle to what I like to use. There are spelling mistakes in some of the word art. I am just so disappointed. My problem is that I'd like to eventually sell there (I think) so I am not in a position to make a complaint about this particular designer's stuff - and I also feel disloyal to her and her designs if I complain. Of course, she doesn't know me at all, but still. So what should I do? It was a large order, so it's hard to swallow and forgive. I don't really want to have to fix everything up myself either, I'd rather be working on my own designs. Will there be a review of Design House Digital in the near future?
Last few months, it was 100+ designers. This month, it's maybe 70. I also have a feeling that a few of those 70 may be dropping out, b/c Trish went on vacation and isn't keeping up with this during the week before it launches, big surprise. She refuses to let anyone who volunteers help her organize it, but she isn't staying on top of things by herself.
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The organizer is too heavy-handed for my liking. A few months back she said palette submissions would be open for three days then closed it after just a few hours. A palette was voted on, then she altered it so it was more to her liking. She won't let anyone help her out but things don't get done that should (like updating the list of participating designers on the blog's main page, enforcing rules [no tagger size kits], banning people not posting on time [or at all], etc.).
It will definitely be interesting to see if someone else volunteers to lead a new blog train.
I wonder if those DHD designers make any money? The website is slower than molasses.
I really like a lot of the DHD designs, even though they are often simplistic. The jaggies are common, but I can't say one designer is better or worse than another. (Because the designers aren't consistent - Karla Dudley has some fantastic WA in one kit, then I get a handrawn jagged alpha that's too small to make into a title in the next kit!). My only thought is that each designer has made great strides since she began, and the sale kits I mostly buy are really old. (?) I *can* say I've never been fully happy with anything I've gotten from there, so I mostly buy the $1.00 kits and delete all the things I can't fix, don't like, or aren't worth fixing...usually half the contents get deleted. THEN I'm happy, because after I delete the things that don't work for me, I have about $1.00's worth of scrap material!
The thing that bugs me most is that nobody goes the extra mile to make sure everything is perfect, or at least without fault, so you'll see a really cute stitched frame that doesn't meet in the corners, or you'll see a circle that doesn't quite meet at the top when all they'd have to do is adjust the size or spacing of their brushes. Flat sided circles (Agnes Biro 4th of July Kit) and WA running off the sides of flairs is common, too. Jen Allyson has a bunch of keys that are shadowed as if they're made of paper, and has a straight pin in a card that has no shadowed bump. Karen Funk has a tag with a staple and the staple isn't shadowed. Little things= sloppy workmanship.
All bitching aside, there are a lot of kits there I like... and I am happy to fix things up so they more closely meet my personal scrapping needs as long as they are not $9.99 minus 30% sale as so many of their kits are priced. They are simply too expensive for the quality and simplistic, almost retro, paper designs and sloppy elements.
The slow website is another story - nothing would convince me to become part of their community because the website seems unreliable it's so slow.
Anyone know where Jen Balding of Boy Girl Boy Designs is headed? Her GP store is closing 12/31. ------------------------- Before you ask a question about a designer maybe you need to get the design name right. It's Girl Boy Girl Designs!
Looking at the list of designers taking part in the January blog train, it seems smaller than previous months. (Didn't count, just seems smaller.) Must have something to do with the palette. -----
Or designers fed up with the bashing the blog train gets every single time.
Remember that the Jauary blog train comes just one month after the December one, instead of giving a two month period to breathe. That is a reason I would not participate if I had joined the one in December. In addition to being a busy "real life" period for many.
My problem is that I'd like to eventually sell there (I think) so I am not in a position to make a complaint about this particular designer's stuff - and I also feel disloyal to her and her designs if I complain. Of course, she doesn't know me at all, but still. So what should I do? It was a large order, so it's hard to swallow and forgive. I don't really want to have to fix everything up myself either, I'd rather be working on my own designs. ------
You either need to suck it up or shut it up. Sorry. There's no point in bringing your complaint here, we can't fix it. I think you know what to do, so go do it.
Wow, I can't believe the rants against M4H. Your post makes me think you are very unstable. Take a chill pill. 6:03 PM
Everyone is entitle to an opinion. The fact that you tell someone to take a chill pill and call them unstable is such a common response from someone who is just as unstable and relates to the OP. Seriously your not on her fan page and neither am I ATM so rant away. -------------------------- I do like MyFourHens though she does come off sometimes as spoiled and full of herself.1:34 PM
I have to agree with the person who posted this so so true and I don't think your off your meds for having an opinion that is your own. --------------------------- At least she gave people the benefit of the doubt and a reminder before having to turn it off. Anyone with an ounce of business sense would have done the same as she did. 3:42 PM
I completely agree with this action, business is business.
So what if the OP is bitter let her be because that was one good read! The truth hurts and we can't all be loving on the same day!
I was aware that some designers would split their kits into papers, elements, clusters, alphas, styles, but this is the first time I see "layers" sold separately: http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?p=3081827#post3081827 Is that a new trend? I have never seen this before. Have you? Maybe it is a way to add some "odds and ends".
^^^ to me that doesn't seem very different from offering worn papers as an extra addon pack, which designers have been doing for years. so this time, the worn papers are just in different shapes/sizes. not new at all, though, in concept.
Remember that the Jauary blog train comes just one month after the December one, instead of giving a two month period to breathe. That is a reason I would not participate if I had joined the one in December. In addition to being a busy "real life" period for many.
I was aware that some designers would split their kits into papers, elements, clusters, alphas, styles, but this is the first time I see "layers" sold separately: http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?p=3081827#post3081827 Is that a new trend? I have never seen this before. Have you? Maybe it is a way to add some "odds and ends". ------
Yes, I have seen this before. As the PP said, it's no different from add on paper packs, or even photo mats, borders, ribbons, etc. It's just an element pack really.
To the person posting the link to MSS, I believe MSS is not officially open yet and as much as I can see there's no link that the public can access the shoppe from homepage. That means you're probably one of the staff or someone involved with the place. Should you be doing this instead of letting the designer know so she can fix it? I hope they find out who you are.
Seems to me, based on recent posts in the DST forum, that Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant. I'm guessing she makes more money since moving to SBG from SBE but frankly, I don't see how she can charge more than 50 cents/kit. Even though she's been around for a while, I just don't see talent there. One huge turn off - so many of her things are oversaturated.
Seems to me, based on recent posts in the DST forum, that Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant. I'm guessing she makes more money since moving to SBG from SBE but frankly, I don't see how she can charge more than 50 cents/kit. Even though she's been around for a while, I just don't see talent there. One huge turn off - so many of her things are oversaturated. ----------
Well, you don't but apparently others do. As long as she is making money, it really doesn't matter what you think, does it?
Seems to me, based on recent posts in the DST forum, that Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant. I'm guessing she makes more money since moving to SBG from SBE but frankly, I don't see how she can charge more than 50 cents/kit. Even though she's been around for a while, I just don't see talent there. One huge turn off - so many of her things are oversaturated.
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Hmm sounds like a bit jealousy there. Miki Ferkul is one of the nicest gals around. I'm sure she decided to move to SBG to make more money. Just because she moved like others have doesn't mean that she changed the way she has done business for years. She's definitely not a Flergs. Yes, her kits are different then others out there. That's why she has the customer base she has and no I'm not Miki.
Just because some have decided to work for SBG doesn't make them bad. I don't care for Maya but that doesn't mean I wouldn't buy from Miki, Wendy and a couple others. Scrapbook Elements has not kept up the reputation they once had.
Seems to me, based on recent posts in the DST forum, that Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant. I'm guessing she makes more money since moving to SBG from SBE but frankly, I don't see how she can charge more than 50 cents/kit. Even though she's been around for a while, I just don't see talent there. One huge turn off - so many of her things are oversaturated.
Miki Ferkul has definite ideas about some things-that doesn't make a person arrogant. If it does then you've definitely stepped up to the arrogant plate. Her stuff is not oversaturated. She has a definite style and has designed the same way for all the years she's been a designer. If more had their own styles, they might be making money too.
Miki is awesome. When I first started designing I sent her a message asking how she made one of her alphas and she took the time to tell me step by step. I love her kits, gorgeous rich colors and full of glitz. To each his own though :).
Who sells kits for 50 cents? The only way I can think you'd make money doing that is if you load your site with advertising, like the graphics fairy does. Not that the graphics fairy sells scrapbook kits but my point being that I don't think she would be giving away a free image every day if there wasn't some financial gain - and her site is filled with advertising.
Why? Because she agree with something Dianne Rigdon already said? For what it's worth, I've never seen Miki Ferkul sell anything for 50 cents. Maybe she's been arrogant all along, by your standards.
Speaking of quality, I have a favorite designer (one of many) whose designs I love, but whose quality is hit or miss. I'd like to email her and volunteer to be her QC person, or show her how to finish off some of her elements better because she has the exact same issues from kit to kit, and I honestly don't think she sees them and/or knows how to fix them.
What would YOU do if a customer contacted you and said you could do better?
What would YOU do if a customer contacted you and said you could do better?
^^^^ That would depend on how you said it. If you emailed me and said those exact words, I'd be pretty annoyed. However, if you nicely pointed out the consistent errors, I would double and triple check my stuff, thank you for your time and then think about it.
I've come VERY close to asking a couple designers if they'd like for me to QC for them.
Instead I just played dumb and asked if the wrong version was uploaded and pointed it out.
Some were really nice and some (La Grier) have yet to respond. Yes. I am naming nAmes, as I've emailed her 3 times on the same issue and she doesn't respond.
"Playing dumb" like you say, is not that dumb. It gives the chance to the designer to correct the situation and she might (or not) let it go as if it were the wrong version, and the person emailing is not putting her on the spot as in "you did it wrong". I think as a designer, I would not might that. It is, in fact, a tactful way to approach the issue, in my opinion.
The new look is boring. Also, someone must have broken the news to Traci and Meg that you can't make exact replicas of Angry Birds and release them in a kit, since it isn't in the store now.
"What would YOU do if a customer contacted you and said you could do better?" I've done this more than a few times for a designer I used to CT for. I was always nice and diplomatic and she was always thankful. In the end it's me who couldn't take it anymore and resigned. I felt like I was spoiling her. Sometimes when it happens often enough you just have to get the clue and improve already!
I just started looking through the blog train sites to see if anything looks good yet, using the list in the DCR for those of you who end up checking the blog train site and see it isn't up yet, and somewhere in the first 5 or 10 is this site: http://snackpackgu.blogspot.com/ Apparently she liked the palette so much she re-did her entire blog to coordinate??? Wow. What a big hot mess. I'd have had trouble using that palette for a mini, let alone an entire blog.
So i finally got around to looking at the colors of the blog train and i though, hmm... colors look familiar. Then i remembered a speed scrap freebie i got with the same colors! i didn't think they looked so bad then, but the blog train just makes them look horrid! http://scrapmatters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26611
I just started looking through the blog train sites to see if anything looks good yet, using the list in the DCR for those of you who end up checking the blog train site and see it isn't up yet, and somewhere in the first 5 or 10 is this site: http://snackpackgu.blogspot.com/ Apparently she liked the palette so much she re-did her entire blog to coordinate??? Wow. What a big hot mess. I'd have had trouble using that palette for a mini, let alone an entire blog.
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I think it's a cute idea. She redid her blog to reflect the blog train mini last month too and again, it also looked really cute. (and no I'm not her)
So you don't like the colors this month - who cares? You know, lot's of scrappers actually might like it and if they don't - they can walk on by. No one is forcing anyone to download a freebie but guess what? I downloaded her's and a few others. Some of them were pretty good!
I went and looked at the designer feature on the SSD blog. Holy shit I had to check twice. I thought Lauren Grier and Laura Banasiak were the same person. Between their kits looking alike, they have matching glasses.
I don't like the new look of SSD!!! It does look too much like SugarHillCo. I thought the old look was soooo much better. I do however like the freebie section!!! Some of those mini's are just too cute to pass up! There are a few designers there that I haven't bought from before so now i'll get my chance to check out their stuff before I commit to buying!
Me So Scrappy Shoppe opening... I'm a little underwhelmed! I wasn't expecting to see many big name or any name designers there but was pleasantly surprised to see Aprilissa there. I like her style. There are a few designers there that I wouldn't buy from but who knows what'll happen over the next few months.
Just MSS's policy of NEVER resetting d/l links makes me not want to shop there.. ever. Even if she charged a fee for it, that would be fine. But to just say you're never going to do it is ridiculous IMO.
Why is that ridiculous? A store should not be responsible for your laziness of not backing up your own downloads. You wouldn't expect a grocery store to replace food that spoiled early because you didn't put them into the fridge. There is no reason I can see of that a store should be responsible for resetting your downloads that you didn't secure. It takes time to do that, and that time is better spent working on productive things. Not taking care of lazy/irresponsible people.
Sometimes the problem isn't laziness, it's an unreliable internet connection or a glitch. One time DownThemAll freaked out on me and used all 5 of my clicks without actually downloading anything. It would have really sucked for me to lose all the stuff I purchased.
If stores want to provide good customer service and guarantee that customers return, they should reset download links. There are many, many, many stores in digi-land with thousands of designers. It's hard to stand out in the crowd that's for sure. One way you don't want to stand out is by being known as the store with the crappy customer service and refusing to reset download links is seen as bad service.
You the cusomter might download a link but then not open that file for a week only to find that it didn't download correctly be it your fault or a faulty zip or the connection was reset during the download, etc., etc. The list is long and if the policy of the store is not to reset download links, you're pretty much screwed. So will you as a customer shop there again? Nope.
I was poster 1:47. The two posters after me made some very valid points I hadn't considered. Thanks for your posts! There are legit reasons a store should reset download links. I stand corrected.
When I first started scrapping about 6 years ago, I didn't know about backing up my ehd and lost everything on it. I had spend almost $300 on kits about 3 months before the crash and I contacted all of the stores that I bought from and they reset the links for me. If they hadn't reset them, I would have been out all of that money, plus, I would have never shopped there again. Because they did, I purchase from these stores each and EVERY month and usually spend about $150. I would not buy from any store that would not reset links!!!! You never know what could happen. A store that isn't willing to provide the best customer service possible would lose me as a potential customer!!!
So... Me So Scrappy staff, owners, management type people... Keep this in mind when setting policies!!!
I can't remember which store it was a few years ago that wouldn't reset the links for someone who had an ehd crash, but they were a french store and I know that there was a huge fuss about it and the store closed. Anyone know who that was?
I think it's ridiculous. It doesn't take THAT long to reset links, and honestly would you rather spend 5 or 10 minutes resetting links or loose a customer forever. It doesn't seem like rocket science, however, evidently it IS. Stores may want to think before having such a superior attitude ... le sigh
Please will someone with more guts than me, go ask the question at DST? would be interesting to hear the customer's opinion...
Considering that SSD have had that policy for at least two years, I think it's probably closer to three, and are still in business and apparently booming, it's clearly working for them.
I remember when they put that policy in place and I don't blame one bit.
Wow. The 20 questions sounds like a rambling mental patient. As if one needs to keep reminding themself to breathe? ------
I don't know Lauren from a hole in the wall. It read like an open and honest interview, maybe she should have lied instead, but then some of you would have nothing to smack today. She didn't sound mental to me at all.
I'm not a shopper of SSD but they have had the look of cupcakes and candy since the beginning. A few months ago, y'all were saying how much SugarHill Co copied SSD in the idea of cupcakes and candy, and now it's the other way around? Wow.
I don't see anything wrong with SSD's link reset policy. It's not like they wont reset links at all. I have customers email me about orders placed 2 years ago and their EHDs failed and they have no back-ups and would I go through all their orders and send them links.
It's completely and utterly ridiculous to expect such a thing from a store or designer.
If you can't manage to unzip your files when you download, you may want to reconsider DIGITAL scrapbooking.
The links and products to be reset may not be in the store indefinitely. Some carts only retain the information for a limited time which would mean giving the customer a coupon to re-buy the product since it's no longer there to be reset and then designers move on which means the files are no longer there. I think that under those circumastances there is no option but to refuse the reset.
Damnit I wish SSD would get their shop fixed. I placed my order hours ago and it is still don't have download links. I want to scrap damnit, I'm impatient lol. Other than that I love the look of the shop now and really appreciate the freebies.
Who would need any digital scrapbooking supplies if all they ever did was put only photos and journaling on pages?
I love layers and clusters and great photos, too. But I save my journaling for private - not for scrapbooking galleries. I know many others do, too. Even if I didn't, we don't need another person telling us we're not doing something right.
I don't print my pages in a book because I care about the environment. No needless paper and all the chemicals they use to make those books! I can easily make an online photo"book" and share it with everyone - for free and without any unnecessary environmental impact and cost.
no one said you have to pay attention to that new blog and idea....it says its a "sister" site, much like their Hybrid blog is. The entire shop isn't converting to just this idea alone. Sounds like you have a problem with the Digichick in general. and who needs a customer like you around? LOL....obviously they have plenty more.
I love layers and clusters and great photos, too. But I save my journaling for private - not for scrapbooking galleries. I know many others do, too. Even if I didn't, we don't need another person telling us we're not doing something right."
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I actually think what you're doing is exactly what the blog post is about. They didn't emphasize the importance of printing or showing your stories in galleries. It's about having the story to tell and then tell it on the page. It's always your decision whether to share it and with whom. I kinda think you're taking it too seriously and too literally. The post might sound a bit snotty and make certain people (like you) feel defensive alright. In that case it's just fine and fair for you to not shop with them anymore. Although I feel that a lot more are willing to.
I have to agree that Nicole comes off sounding like a bit of a snot. I can see how someone would think she is saying that we are not scrapping correctly if we aren't journaling and printing every layout. She's maybe not quite as talented at communicating with scrappers as she thinks she is.
But it seems to me that the true intention of that site is to encourage scrappers who started out wanting to make books and scrap memories. I think she is trying to motivate people to move away from focusing on a perfect piece of art, and focus instead on scrapping a page full of memories. Which is nice.
It's a little unfortunate that she wrote that intro in such a way that it feels less motivational and more like her preaching/talking down to everyone that her way is the only way. It's a little off putting. To me at least.
I love layers and clusters and great photos, too. But I save my journaling for private - not for scrapbooking galleries. ------
She never said you had to put your journaling in the galleries, but that journaling should be there, because no one else will tell the story. That's all she said. Wow, why so defensive?
I didn't see Nicole coming of as a snot at all and I'm surprised that some of you had that reaction. I don't even know Nicole and she just sounds like someone trying to remind herself about why she scraps.
I didn't see Nicole coming of as a snot at all and I'm surprised that some of you had that reaction. I don't even know Nicole and she just sounds like someone trying to remind herself about why she scraps.
----- I don't know her either but I do think she sounded a tad condescending.
I didn't take Nicole's posts as condescending at all. For me it was a good reminder that I started scrapping to scrap ... and I got side-tracked along the way and have not been scrapping much. I guess for those of us who needed that reminder, it's a great site, for those of you who didn't it seems un-necessary and condescending.
read in hummies newsletter that she is postponing her designer contest, as there are only 4 contestants, and is waiting for more to sign up. its been over a month since she announced it...and has FOUR people. and...her store "The Boomerang" won't be opening soon, as she says she is still developing new talent for it. She has ONE designer. ONE.
Who would need any digital scrapbooking supplies if all they ever did was put only photos and journaling on pages?
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I didn't take it this way at all. I just read it as a reminder that the point is to record our memories and do it in a meaningful way. I liked the reminder, because it made me realize that I had in fact started focusing more on scrapping beautiful pages and less on the memories. It made me reevaluate the way I scrap. Why spend 3hrs on creating a perfect layout, if I could spend those same 3hrs getting a month's worth of photos into a book, with notes about things that I will otherwise forget in 5 years?
You can call her tone condescending if you like, and take it however you like, just as we all can. But it was just the sort of kick in the pants I needed, and after getting the notice in the newsletter and reading the site's first post, I was glad to have read it.
I don't plan on stopping using kits and elements when I scrap, at all, but I do think I will be more mindful of not wasting away lots of valuable time just to get ooohs and ahhhs in a gallery. I'd rather create something my family can hold in their hands (or view on a computer) and oooh and ahhh. That was the point I got out of it.
And no, I am not her or any other TDC member. Just a customer, for all of the conspiracy theorists out there who will feel compelled to come back after this post and label me.
I do think I will be more mindful of not wasting away lots of valuable time just to get ooohs and ahhhs in a gallery. I'd rather create something my family can hold in their hands (or view on a computer) and oooh and ahhh. ------- ^^This!
Every time I give mini albums or calendars for Christmas gifts, I'm reminded by how much people appreciate them, even if I'm not the most "talented" scrapper out there (and I use that phrase loosely, because it's highly based on individual perception). No one in my family has ever mentioned that I could have shadowed better, or I should have followed the rule of thirds, or I could have clustered more.
I realized at the end of last year that I had pretty much failed in my scrapping. I made several layouts that I didn't even save the full size layout - at the time I was just focused on scrapping something with the kit, but now I really wish I had the layout at a printable size (I am not noble enough to save trees, I kind of want the real thing to oooh and ahhh over). I think all Nicole is saying is to remember why we started this in the first place. Valid point, as far as I am concerned. What harm is there in self-evaluation? Especially at this time of year.
No needless paper and all the chemicals they use to make those books! I can easily make an online photo"book" and share it with everyone - for free and without any unnecessary environmental impact and cost.
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Excuse me? Unless you are running a solar generated computer, etc, etc, you are making an impact on the environment using electricity. You are sounding even more condescending that you thought Nicole was.
I don't print my pages in a book because I care about the environment. No needless paper -----
You are aware, although clearly not, that they grow trees just to make paper. Those trees are good for the environment too. Unless you plan on throwing out your pages after you printed them, I don't see a needless waste of paper.
No one in my family has ever mentioned that I could have shadowed better, or I should have followed the rule of thirds, or I could have clustered more.
This!!
My family wants to know two things: 1) why the photos are so small, and 2) why their name isn't bigger.
I think the http://tellyourstoryeveryday.com site is a great idea. Don't forget that the digital scrap stores need to find a broader market and a more lucrative niche. This is the Digicick's way of doing it. It doesn't mean any more or any less than that, and people taking offense at how it's introduced just need to step back and not take it so personally. I am on Nicole's mailing list (but not a Digichick groupie, CT, DT, or even a forum poster), so naturally I do not think she's a snot of any kind.
A head's up about the blog train. Someone just posted in the DCR that there's a virus in one of the downloads, so be careful. People should be scanning their downloads before they open them.
I guess I should apologize for not realizing there were so many morons who sit in front of the computer to scrap and actually FORGET WHY they scrap.
I should commend Nicole for finding the stupidest group of people as a market niche.
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Puhleeeeze. You know just as well as I do that a good number of scrappers in digiland get caught up in kit-collecting and CTing for that reason, and stop scrapping "for themselves" because they're too busy scrapping "for designers." Nobody here said that everyone does that. But we all know it happens, and probably more than we would even think. For those who are fine with doing that because it's their hobby and they just like making pages, that's completely fine. However, for those who actually want to preserve their family's memories, the reminder to scrap for that reason is a good one. If it doesn't apply to you, then ignore it. She didn't put a gun to your head. I see no reason why would would be taking offense to it, other than the fact that from the tone of your post(s) here, you seem to be a real asshole.
Doesn't TDC have a creative team? I'm sure they have responsibilities other than memory keeping. Maybe Nicole changed that with their new sister site philosophy, but I doubt it.
Are you trying to say Nicole was out to change the small handful of scrappers who are on creative teams?
To those who are taking offense to Nicole's post - you're likely the rapid CT - designer-pimping type. The type that never journals - just wants a GSO. Sure - defend what you're doing as "art" but I commend Nicole! She's a straight talker. And I'm in no way affiliated with TDC. And I'm not even a designer. I'm a scrapper who scraps for personal pleasure - not the glory of others! You'll never see my pages anywhere but in the hands of friends and family.
Doesn't TDC have a creative team? I'm sure they have responsibilities other than memory keeping. Maybe Nicole changed that with their new sister site philosophy, but I doubt it.
Are you trying to say Nicole was out to change the small handful of scrappers who are on creative teams?
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Are you for real? I have to believe that you're not being serious, and are just playing devil's advocate here b/c you like to argue. Give it up. Like PP before me said, you don't have to like what she said or what the new site is about. Just like I don't have to like you. And I don't.
I just read that post from Nicole (who I had only heard the name before). Although I might not agree 100% with her (like you don't need to print something to record the information), her point makes sense. Being a "sister" site, it sure is not meant to take away the "digital supplies sales".
Her point is only a question. Then we answer as we want. It reminds me of something I had also noticed in the digiscrap (very obvious in DST): people looking for specific theme supplies. Do you think that all the layouts should have themed papers/elements to fit the theme of the photo? Sometimes, sure. But if the focus is on the pregnancy photos, does one really NEED to have pregnancy related papers, elements, wordarts, etc.? Can't someone scrap a beautiful beach photo without a beach theme paper or a Christmas photo without a red and green garland element?
Maybe Nicole has a very valid point: get back to basics first and build from there.
I agree with Nicole's point that it's a good idea to focus on scrapping memories. I also agree that she sounds kind of snotty in the way she says it.
I understand wanting to defend her and I sympathize with her having her feelings hurt by what people are saying here. It would be hard not to feel defensive. But being defensive here isn't going to help with the large percent of TDC customers who don't read here that may or may not be thinking the exact same thing.
When several people are saying that her tone feels condescending, it might be a sign that she should try to modify the way she presents herself there. It's up to her, she can keep on just the way she has been if she chooses to. But it's apparent that she's alienating some people.
I see this as just a way of jumping on the Project Life bandwagon that Becky Higgins and Ali Edwards are already promoting. Personally, I don't find this style of scrapping appealing at all, but I can see where there may be a new market for Nicole.
Because they're doing a P365 project? Suzy Q Scraps did her's last year with Ziggle whats-her-name - many many many designers have done them in the past.
several stores have already jumped on the Project Life thing, OScraps (Paislee Press) being the biggest one. I'm sure that SBG, MScraps, etc won't be far behind with their versions. None of them have a "sister" site dedicated to it tho. So Nicole included the Digichick in this project and her take on it. So what? This new style isn't taking over the Digchick, its being incorportated in along with everything else.
I didn't take her introduction to TYOS as snotty - she is obviously very excited about this and its showing.
To those who are taking offense to Nicole's post - you're likely the rapid CT - designer-pimping type. The type that never journals - just wants a GSO. Sure - defend what you're doing as "art" but I commend Nicole! She's a straight talker. And I'm in no way affiliated with TDC. And I'm not even a designer. I'm a scrapper who scraps for personal pleasure - not the glory of others! You'll never see my pages anywhere but in the hands of friends and family. January 3, 2012 8:08 AM
And you're probably one of those Americans with an inflated sense of self-importance who feels the need to document every time little Johnny uses the "potty."
Here's a clue - no one cares. But please, continue to document every useless piece of minutia that happens in your pathetic life.
My family wants to know two things: 1) why the photos are so small, and 2) why their name isn't bigger.
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This made me laugh! I just spent a weekend listening to my Dad complain, because he loves my pages, but he can't print them off on his printer at home, since I scrap in 12x12, and he thinks the words are too small! Which is really funny, because a few pages ago, someone was talking about how journaling never needed to be larger than 12 pt and mine is already 18! I think sometimes, we really do forget who we are scrapping for.
To the TDC hater, No one was attacking you personally at all. No one. They just felt differently and stated their reasons calmly. Some even agreed with the point you made to some degree. That's until you came and started calling people names. I think that's uncalled for and unnecessarily. Can't you just accept that your way is not the only way in the world to do things? You don't want to shop at TDC. Fine. If others still do, it's their money. I'm thinking the one with "an inflated sense of self-importance" here, is you.
I'm the OP about TDC and I find it funny you all think every other comment about not liking TDC is from one person. This is my second post about this topic.
Scrapbooking is a lot like any other activity : there are different reasons to do it and they are mostly right. Someone can paint to make money, or just as a hobby. Someone can take photos to find the perfect shot and become a great photographer, others will just have fun and try to capture some candid shots. Nobody is wrong. It is just different. Let's just agree that some people scrap differently than others or for different reasons than others. Find YOUR way, YOUR reason, and scrap YOUR pages.
And you're probably one of those Americans with an inflated sense of self-importance who feels the need to document every time little Johnny uses the "potty."
Here's a clue - no one cares. But please, continue to document every useless piece of minutia that happens in your pathetic life.
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^^^^ Bitter and twisted much?
I'm glad you scrap because you're so desperate for your fake digi friends and FB friends you have not and never will meet to gush and comment on your layouts.
Personally I scrap layouts I love for the people I love - and see in my real life. For me it's a great stress relief and helps me remember the "minutae" when I'm juggling a full time job and three kids. I can't be bothered with the pathetic ass-kissing your type does fawning over the designers. But I like digital scrapbooking because it allows me to document memories that others think are minutae, but I know are memories.
very little. there are a couple of designers that managed to make that disgusting palette into something worth grabbing, but only to use with things I already own. I wouldn't DL enough of this train to call it a "kit" even. kudos to the designers who knew how to make something workable from such a hot mess of colors.
When several people are saying that her tone feels condescending, it might be a sign that she should try to modify the way she presents herself there. --
On the other hand, when several people on here are saying they didn't read it as condescending, it might be a sign that others need to rethink they way they read things.
And you're probably one of those Americans with an inflated sense of self-importance who feels the need to document every time little Johnny uses the "potty."
Johnny learning how to use the potty is a big deal to the parents who have waited for the little one to be out of their nappies. Just like taking a bath and laying on a bear rug. So yes it is a big deal no matter what yout nationality. Of course that does leave you out which must mean you don't have a little Johnny or you don't think children deserve their big moments in life!!
This kit is totally unique. I sat here for hours with my nose pressed up against the screen, converting cross stitch patterns I found online to patterns I could use for scrapbook papers and elements. It wasn't easy, but I think it was worth it! I LOVE this kit!
Of the kits I downloaded, which were the ones that had a preview with one or two items I thought I might like, I kept some of the following: ______________________________
Yeah, yeah, blah, blah... Let's hear who you thought were good, or even okay? No? I didn't think so. You are obviously so elevated in your art that you wouldn't stoop to free blog train downloads. ..which makes me wonder why you'd have ANY opinion at all? Think of yourself as Paris Hilton. She wouldn't have an opinion on the new fall fashions at wal-mart, would she?
I was as surprised as you, but I gave them all a fair shake, and those were the ones who came out on top IMHO. My regulars - the designers who are already established and selling at great shops - left me totally disappointed this train, and I didn't keep a single element or paper from any of them.
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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She already gave you one, the one in the preview mentioned a few posts up.
But there are lots of others and I know exactly what she means. The same thing happens at Halloween, Easter, Mother's and Father's Day, all those back to school kits.
Every single one of those elements that is photographed and extracted was actually designed by someone, and has copyright attached to it.
Obviously you aren't versed in Copyright Laws. Everything in our lives is made by someone else. There is a lot out there that has no copyright attached at all. If something isn't copyright and/or is the public domain then why the hell not use it. We go with the old argument and that is if customers didn't want the real looking stuff then we wouldn't be having this discussion. This all came about when customers wanted ribbons that looked real not digitized and then it was other stuff they wanted. Now that's what you see in kits.
I do see many kits going back to more non-real looking, ie looking like it was designed in photoshop and not scanned or photographed. Everything seems to come full circle so maybe, just maybe we are going back to the beginning where customers don't want the real looking stuff any longer. That would be nice - we would lose a whole lot of designers because they don't know how to design in their programs without extractions!!
Has there been a review of Funky Playground yet? There are a couple kits that I am thinking about purchasing from there, but they are from designers I have never tried before and I am wondering if the quality of work is worth the money or not. I hate spending my money only to be disappointed.
You are wrong, I am very very well versed on copyright. Very basic craft supplies are not covered buy copyright (things like ribbon and cardstock) but as soon as something has a finished design, it is covered by copyright. So, Christmas ornaments, Halloween ornaments, Easter ornaments, statues, ornate frames, floral arrangements...those are all covered by copyright. As for public domain, that really only comes into play for the vintage stuff. There is actually extremely little that isn't covered by copyright.
Designers keep making the argument that since craft supplies are sold to crafter with the knowledge that they will make things and sell them, it must be OK for digital too - but it's not the same thing at all because crafters buy one and use it and sell one ... they don't buy one and photograph it and sell as many as they want.
Anyways, maybe you are right, maybe we will see it come full circle and people will not want those things in their kits.
Or maybe the craft industry will become more aware of what is going on and take steps to try to stop it. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
you hate spending $5 only to be disappointed? jesus christ.
Has there been a review of Funky Playground yet? There are a couple kits that I am thinking about purchasing from there, but they are from designers I have never tried before and I am wondering if the quality of work is worth the money or not. I hate spending my money only to be disappointed.
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Who are they? I've bought from them for awhile now and know who to stay away from.
you hate spending $5 only to be disappointed? jesus christ.
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You don't mind throwing money away? I'll send you my PO Box and you can send me $5 and I'll give you nothing.
you hate spending $5 only to be disappointed? jesus christ.
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Not the OP, but if you don't mind throwing around $5, throw some my way, I could use it.
You are wrong, I am very very well versed on copyright. < snip > As for public domain, that really only comes into play for the vintage stuff.
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for someone so very very well versed, you might want to recheck your idea of public domain, because you are very very wrong.
You are wrong, I am very very well versed on copyright. Very basic craft supplies are not covered buy copyright (things like ribbon and cardstock) but as soon as something has a finished design, it is covered by copyright. So, Christmas ornaments, Halloween ornaments, Easter ornaments, statues, ornate frames, floral arrangements...those are all covered by copyright. As for public domain, that really only comes into play for the vintage stuff. There is actually extremely little that isn't covered by copyright.
If that were the case ribbon company 1 would be suing ribbon company 2 for a look alike ribbon. Scrapbbook Company 1 would be suing Scrapbook Company 2, 3, and 4 for all the look alike flowers. Stamp Company 1 would be suing Stamp Company 2 for the same graphics. Tim Holtz would be suing 7 Gypies for look alike elements. Things coming out of China and 3rd world countries have little or no copyrights attached to their products. The only copyrights from those products are ones made specifically for JoAnns, Michaels, Hobby Lobby, Hallmark and the like.
Also I can create an item and put it into the public domain. It's not just vintage that comes under Public Domain. I think you need to do some more research as you don't know what you are talking about. Sorry!!
I use Public Domain items in my kits and I have absolutely no calms about doing so. The artist, photographer or whoever gave that permission to happen and I have gotten whatever from totallly Public Domain sites.
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No calms? I thought you'd be quite calm if you were getting it from public domain sites, although, personally I'd be nervous too as some of those images etc on public domain sites do not belong to the person who put them there.
Things coming out of China and 3rd world countries have little or no copyrights attached to their products. The only copyrights from those products are ones made specifically for JoAnns, Michaels, Hobby Lobby, Hallmark and the like.
< snip> I think you need to do some more research as you don't know what you are talking about. Sorry!!
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Wrong, wrong, wrong as can be. I think you need do some more research too.
you wouldn't be getting nothing. you'd be getting scrap product. have you never spent $4 on a box of cereal you ended up thinking was shitty? tough shit, you move on amd don't buy that cereal next time.
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tough shit huh? No, I've never bought cereal that tasted like shit. I wouldn't even know what shit tasted like.
i said tasted shitty. not tasted like shit.
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Semantics.
holy crap, how did this get in a store? Isn't this blatent copyright?
http://www.scrappinnaturally.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_137&products_id=497&zenid=lv244gnnabhhq68h40b96dmc26
There are two Hello Kitty elements, which I believe would be covered under copyright, unless you go with the one who says anything from China isn't copyrighted?!
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How did you find that store in the first place?
I found it through DST looking at new posts. She is having a ct call or something like that. Ive never heard of that site before today
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what a mess. yuck. just plain....yuck.
That claim about stuff coming out of China used to be true but it hasn't been for years.
And you have pretty much no idea who is suing who these days for copyright claims - it doesn't get publicly announced. Scrapbook Company A could be suing Scrapbook Company B, and Scrapbook Company B could be suing Scrapbook Company A at the same time for a different item. Companies regularly steal each others ideas and technology, they weigh the costs of a lawsuit against the potential profit and decide if it's worth it or not. They also regularly settle with each other over different cases of copyright infringement instead of suing. Don't assume that becuase you didn't hear about it it isn't in litigation.
Regarding public domain sites - a lot of photographers don't understand copyright themselves. They think they own the copyright to the photograph so they put it in the public domain - but they didn't own the right to the object being in the photograph in the first place, so it doesn't mean that the item (statue, frame, ornament, or whatever) is actually in the public domain.
That claim about stuff coming out of China used to be true but it hasn't been for years.
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Since 1979 in fact.
And you are absolutely correctly about photographers, a lot of them aren't aware of copyright either, or don't think that it may apply to certain public monuments and buildings.
For instance, I can take a photograph of the Eiffel Tower with the lights on at night and use it for my own purposes, but I cannot sell that photograph. However, the Eiffel Tower during the day is free for all and I can sell as many of those photographs as I wish.
I found it through DST looking at new posts. She is having a ct call or something like that. Ive never heard of that site before today
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Ah! Thanks.
Has there been a review of Funky Playground yet? There are a couple kits that I am thinking about purchasing from there, but they are from designers I have never tried before and I am wondering if the quality of work is worth the money or not. I hate spending my money only to be disappointed.
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Who are they? I've bought from them for awhile now and know who to stay away from.
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I was mostly looking at stuff from Pixelily and Crossbone Cuts. These kits in particular, but there are a couple things from both I am interested in getting.
http://funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=26153&cat=0&page=1
http://funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=26368&cat=0&page=1
holy crap, how did this get in a store? Isn't this blatent copyright?
http://www.scrappinnaturally.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_137&products_id=497&zenid=lv244gnnabhhq68h40b96dmc26
There are two Hello Kitty elements, which I believe would be covered under copyright, unless you go with the one who says anything from China isn't copyrighted?!
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Yup, blatant violation of copyright and probably trademark laws.
Have reported to Sanrio the copyright holder.
I was mostly looking at stuff from Pixelily and Crossbone Cuts. These kits in particular, but there are a couple things from both I am interested in getting.
http://funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=26153&cat=0&page=1
http://funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=26368&cat=0&page=1
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Why wait on a review from some else? They just look at the previews. They are not actually going by an unzipped product. If you like what you see, buy it! Its your layout.
I was mostly looking at stuff from Pixelily and Crossbone Cuts. These kits in particular, but there are a couple things from both I am interested in getting.
http://funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=26153&cat=0&page=1
http://funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=26368&cat=0&page=1
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I would just buy it if I liked it. From what I can tell, the people "reviewing" these stores are just looking at previews. They are going by very few opened products. You can review that yourself and have a better judge on what you like. If you are wanting someone else's view on it. I think they both use weird color schemes on all their kits. There are one or two of Pixelily's I would buy and none of Crossbone Cuts. But that says nothing to their quality. Just that my taste differs from theirs. If you like them, buy them. They could be right up your alley. Don't go buy what other people like. Just my two cents...or more. ;)
Why don't you send the designers an e-mail and ask for a sample. Or check their blogs for a freebie. Then, you can judge the quality before you buy.
That claim about stuff coming out of China used to be true but it hasn't been for years.
and you are an international Copyright attorney and know this for a fact!
And you are absolutely correctly about photographers, a lot of them aren't aware of copyright either, or don't think that it may apply to certain public monuments and buildings.
As with the Eiffel Tower it only applies to monuments if they are on private property, if there is a Trademark or Licensing Law allowing or disallowing usage, etc. A photo of the Eiffel Tower during the day may be used but the reason it can't be done at night is that the light show that lights the tower up has special licenses attached to it. You can't use items on Disney property because Disney, the name, is trademarked and any thing associated with Disney is Trademarked. But, some companies have been allowed the use of the Disney images by getting permission from Disney and paying them huge licensing fees for such usuage.
Copyright law, Trademark Law and Licensing for Commercial Use isn't just set dried in stone rule or rules. It's totally complicated and unless one is a licensed Copyright/Trademark Attorney which I doubt anyone on this Blog is then it's probably best not to make blanket statements, which from what I can tell has been done with this entire subject, on this Blog over and over again.
The information about the Eiffel Tower and Disney can be found easily enough as to their policy of being photographed and such used for Commercial Use.
Crossbone Cuts has good quality, I personally don't like her style but her quality is fine.
I was mostly looking at stuff from Pixelily and Crossbone Cuts. These kits in particular, but there are a couple things from both I am interested in getting.
http://funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=26153&cat=0&page=1
http://funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=26368&cat=0&page=1
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I've used Pixelily's stuff before (not as her CT). Some of her kits are really far from my usual style so I'd probably never buy them, but the ones I worked with are of good quality and I ended up liking the pages a lot.
That claim about stuff coming out of China used to be true but it hasn't been for years.
and you are an international Copyright attorney and know this for a fact!
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You don't have to be an international copyright lawyer to know this. Quit trying to justify your theft of dollar store items that you are photographing and extracting and putting in your kits.
or don't think that it may apply to certain public monuments and buildings.
As with the Eiffel Tower it only applies to monuments if they are on private property, if there is a Trademark or Licensing Law allowing or disallowing usage, etc.
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I clearly said certain, did I not? Why, yes I did. Nothing blanket about that.
I don't come here very often but it seems like I recall reading something about an "Alyssa". Call me stupid, but I can't seem to find anything about it in a search. I could read back through a bunch of posts but I'm guessing some of the regulars on here will know right off the top of their head if/where there was something posted about it. Is this the "Happy Tits" person, or was there some other drama about someone named Alyssa? The reason I wonder is because someone named Alyssa seems to be "coming out of hiding" again (based on something a friend told me)and I'm wondering if it's her. Any thoughts?
"Happy Tits" = Alyssa = Alyangel = Profile Couture = Studio Demo
Take your pick.
Alyssa = Happy Tits
Please do read back. I can assure you it's not that hard to find. Too many things have been going on. Too many stuff have been discussed about her for too long a time. In short, she opened a shop: With Love Studio. Designers have been warned. Some stay away and some don't. We generally don't think the place looks promising, for too many reasons.
You can start reading from the "New Space" in September. With Love Studio discussion started there, first page.
With Love Studio is Alyssa's shop? I'm hearing that she is applying to be a designer at other shops, so what's up with that?
who knows what that girl thinks anymore? *shrug*
Hello Kitty Kit is gone
With Love Studio is Alyssa's shop? I'm hearing that she is applying to be a designer at other shops, so what's up with that?
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I know she's at Digiscrap Cafe. I was offered a position there, but once I found out she was there, I respectfully declined.
She is also part of the blog train, so she's trying to act respectable. Trying being the key word. Wouldn't trust her with anything.
^^^nothing respectable about this coming month's blog train. I can't wait to see if even one designer can create something non-hideous with that fugly palette. it's the worst one yet, literally the worst one I have ever seen.
"I know she's at Digiscrap Cafe."
The Digital Scrap Cafe deal might be some kind of a trade. Owners of DSC - Double Dutch Design - also sell at With Love Studio.
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Double Dutch huh? Well, that's interesting :)
^^^nothing respectable about this coming month's blog train. I can't wait to see if even one designer can create something non-hideous with that fugly palette. it's the worst one yet, literally the worst one I have ever seen.
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Agree! Anyone who comes up with anything even half way decent will be this month's big winner. It's bad. The yellow? looks like vomit and the rose color is horrifying.
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Yes, the palette is ugly. And the designers taking part (or who wanted to take part) couldn't even vote on it. Trish chose it herself.
I don't think they are all a loss. There are several that might have some useful pieces, be it some of the elements and/or papers. So far I will probably at least download the following for a look:
Mye de Leon
Jumpstart Designs
Snips and Snails
Blue Flower Art
Studio 68
Dawn by Design
That palette is awful and I can't imagine anything I would scrap with those colors. So, I'm not even going bother downloading any of it.
Some of them aren't horrible. A few stuck with solid colors for the papers that I would get just for the papers. The others, some are just hideous.
I don't think it's the palette that's the problem, I think it's the designers who don't know how to use a palette that's the problem.
I don't think it's the palette that's the problem, I think it's the designers who don't know how to use a palette that's the problem.
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Sounds like a comment from someone who picked out a hard to use/ugly palette.
Sounds like a comment from someone who picked out a hard to use/ugly palette.
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Yes, this. The palette is fugly and obnoxious. It has nothing to do w/ a designer's ability to use a palette. It has to do with scrappers' abilities to use a palette to document their memories, and that palette is just goddamn awful. No two ways about it. Saddest part? People will still download it in droves, because it's free.
Sounds like a comment from someone who picked out a hard to use/ugly palette.
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Yeah? You'd be wrong, I had no part in the palette, I'm not even in the DCR.
From what I've seen in Photobucket, thanks to a previous poster for providing the information, there are some designers who are making it work and others who aren't.
Simple deduction my dear, no conspiracy.
Sounds like someone who can't make the palette work.
All of the ones that are even close to acceptable seem to have added white. Further proving that the swatch was unusable as it was.
^^^^^White (and black) are considered neutrals. All color palettes should have them (imo).
A competent designer should be able to take any palette and make it work. I saw some interesting kits. Just because you think it's fugly doesn't necessarily mean everyone does. Obviously you'd like everyone to believe what you believe-sorry Charly.
Ok I had to unfriend MyFourhens Photography she acts all higher than holy and seriously it's to much...
One of her posts: "I can not even begin to fathom being so close to 30,000 likes on this page" what an ass she holds contests and giveaways everyone knows you have to like the page to be entered!
Another Post: Just a friendly reminder. The 10.00 Gift code (my way of saying Merry Christmas and I appreciate you all so much) is only intended to be used ONCE (and that is once per household). Thank you so much for all you do and taking time to "like" my page! I really love to do these random things, especially for such a special occasion but can't afford for the code to be used multiple times...
umm I think you can afford alot more than you say and again you ass you had to like the page... you gush almost once a day about how your going shopping and gushing about what your going to buy your kids seriously!! We all read about your wonderful business and we all know that when & your online friends need a boost in income you put on a sale to keep that family going oh no wait that's Thanks to God
Seriously sick of her plugging ClickNMoms and Ephipane bags yes another great business venture but so sick of hearing about it who wants to pay for that crap when the world wide web is basically giving it for free and that's how she claims she learned it all so STFU already!
Please don't start with oh she's so sweet and she doesn't have to do this stuff your right but she loves the attention and is selling herself so yes she has to do it to keep those 4 kids and hubby happy so stuff it! Ok laters....
^^Have you been living in a hole? That is how people making a living with an online business promote themselves. They try to balance making themselves a "person" to their fan base with marketing their products. She's not really doing anything different than anyone else pimping themselves on Facebook.
What is ClickNMoms? I have never heard of it.
I do like MyFourHens though she does come off sometimes as spoiled and full of herself.
I have to agree with the person who posted about how is she any different than any other photographer or business out there that does the same. She is not all that different.
@ 10:50am ----- may I suggest that you get back on your meds? that was one crazy rant, my friend. even if your point/s were valid, you negated any chance you had of anyone EVER listening by being so crazy. the run-on sentences didn't help your case much, either; nor did the very random out-of-the-blue-stream-of-consciousness appearance of such a random topic popping up. seems like you got your panties in a wad over something most of us would have just "unliked" and been on our merry way. wow. meds, girlfriend, meds.
http://gs354.photobucket.com/groups/r410/S2FRSKDS1W/
pw:jan2012btb
If I were in this blogtrain, I believe I would offer a tutorial on how to change colors the right way. I'd even offer swatches of a couple different (more pleasing) color palettes because the existing one is hideous.
Is crazy ranting really that new to this blog? LOL
I thought it was required.
Looking at the list of designers taking part in the January blog train, it seems smaller than previous months. (Didn't count, just seems smaller.) Must have something to do with the palette.
Looking at the list of designers taking part in the January blog train, it seems smaller than previous months. (Didn't count, just seems smaller.) Must have something to do with the palette.
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Bingo.
Last few months, it was 100+ designers. This month, it's maybe 70. I also have a feeling that a few of those 70 may be dropping out, b/c Trish went on vacation and isn't keeping up with this during the week before it launches, big surprise. She refuses to let anyone who volunteers help her organize it, but she isn't staying on top of things by herself.
Probably time for someone else to start a new blog train.
Another Post: Just a friendly reminder. The 10.00 Gift code (my way of saying Merry Christmas and I appreciate you all so much) is only intended to be used ONCE (and that is once per household). Thank you so much for all you do and taking time to "like" my page! I really love to do these random things, especially for such a special occasion but can't afford for the code to be used multiple times...
umm I think you can afford alot more than you say and again you ass you had to like the page... you gush almost once a day about how your going shopping and gushing about what your going to buy your kids seriously!! We all read about your wonderful business and we all know that when & your online friends need a boost in income you put on a sale to keep that family going oh no wait that's Thanks to God
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Your whole post just makes you sound like such a bitter person.
First off just because her page has almost 30,000 likes doesn't mean they are all paying customers.
God I hope you're not a designer, and if you are I am guessing you're one of those happy with pulling in 20 bucks each month.
She gave a $10.00 code out to be nice, to have customers turn around and take advantage, registering new e-mail address', and using it multiple times, it doesn't matter how rich or well off a person is, that is rude.
At least she gave people the benefit of the doubt and a reminder before having to turn it off. Anyone with an ounce of business sense would have done the same as she did.
I'm a bit disappointed. I bought some kits from Design House Digital and have opened them to find problems: jagged wordart that looks like its been scanned in and upsized way too much, only it's small to start with. And there are shadows on a lot of elements, and they are at a different angle to what I like to use. There are spelling mistakes in some of the word art. I am just so disappointed.
My problem is that I'd like to eventually sell there (I think) so I am not in a position to make a complaint about this particular designer's stuff - and I also feel disloyal to her and her designs if I complain. Of course, she doesn't know me at all, but still. So what should I do? It was a large order, so it's hard to swallow and forgive. I don't really want to have to fix everything up myself either, I'd rather be working on my own designs.
Will there be a review of Design House Digital in the near future?
Anyone know where Jen Balding of Boy Girl Boy Designs is headed? Her GP store is closing 12/31.
kinda weird that Jac Ber-whatever isn't listed as a designer in her own store:
www.mesoscrapp.com/shoppe
Bingo.
Last few months, it was 100+ designers. This month, it's maybe 70. I also have a feeling that a few of those 70 may be dropping out, b/c Trish went on vacation and isn't keeping up with this during the week before it launches, big surprise. She refuses to let anyone who volunteers help her organize it, but she isn't staying on top of things by herself.
Probably time for someone else to start a new blog train.
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The organizer is too heavy-handed for my liking. A few months back she said palette submissions would be open for three days then closed it after just a few hours. A palette was voted on, then she altered it so it was more to her liking. She won't let anyone help her out but things don't get done that should (like updating the list of participating designers on the blog's main page, enforcing rules [no tagger size kits], banning people not posting on time [or at all], etc.).
It will definitely be interesting to see if someone else volunteers to lead a new blog train.
My problem is that I'd like to eventually sell there (I think) so I am not in a position to make a complaint about this particular designer's stuff
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You HONESTLY want to sell in a store that allows that poor quality? I'd run - far away.
I wonder if those DHD designers make any money? The website is slower than molasses.
I really like a lot of the DHD designs, even though they are often simplistic. The jaggies are common, but I can't say one designer is better or worse than another. (Because the designers aren't consistent - Karla Dudley has some fantastic WA in one kit, then I get a handrawn jagged alpha that's too small to make into a title in the next kit!). My only thought is that each designer has made great strides since she began, and the sale kits I mostly buy are really old. (?) I *can* say I've never been fully happy with anything I've gotten from there, so I mostly buy the $1.00 kits and delete all the things I can't fix, don't like, or aren't worth fixing...usually half the contents get deleted. THEN I'm happy, because after I delete the things that don't work for me, I have about $1.00's worth of scrap material!
The thing that bugs me most is that nobody goes the extra mile to make sure everything is perfect, or at least without fault, so you'll see a really cute stitched frame that doesn't meet in the corners, or you'll see a circle that doesn't quite meet at the top when all they'd have to do is adjust the size or spacing of their brushes. Flat sided circles (Agnes Biro 4th of July Kit) and WA running off the sides of flairs is common, too. Jen Allyson has a bunch of keys that are shadowed as if they're made of paper, and has a straight pin in a card that has no shadowed bump. Karen Funk has a tag with a staple and the staple isn't shadowed. Little things= sloppy workmanship.
All bitching aside, there are a lot of kits there I like... and I am happy to fix things up so they more closely meet my personal scrapping needs as long as they are not $9.99 minus 30% sale as so many of their kits are priced. They are simply too expensive for the quality and simplistic, almost retro, paper designs and sloppy elements.
The slow website is another story - nothing would convince me to become part of their community because the website seems unreliable it's so slow.
Wow, I can't believe the rants against M4H. Your post makes me think you are very unstable. Take a chill pill.
Anyone know where Jen Balding of Boy Girl Boy Designs is headed? Her GP store is closing 12/31.
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Before you ask a question about a designer maybe you need to get the design name right. It's Girl Boy Girl Designs!
Looking at the list of designers taking part in the January blog train, it seems smaller than previous months. (Didn't count, just seems smaller.) Must have something to do with the palette.
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Or designers fed up with the bashing the blog train gets every single time.
Before you ask a question about a designer maybe you need to get the design name right. It's Girl Boy Girl Designs!
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You could have been helpful, instead of being a dick. But there we are, sometimes we get things wrong, don't we?
BTW, I'm not the OP and I hope that someone can get her an answer.
Remember that the Jauary blog train comes just one month after the December one, instead of giving a two month period to breathe. That is a reason I would not participate if I had joined the one in December. In addition to being a busy "real life" period for many.
My problem is that I'd like to eventually sell there (I think) so I am not in a position to make a complaint about this particular designer's stuff - and I also feel disloyal to her and her designs if I complain. Of course, she doesn't know me at all, but still. So what should I do? It was a large order, so it's hard to swallow and forgive. I don't really want to have to fix everything up myself either, I'd rather be working on my own designs.
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You either need to suck it up or shut it up. Sorry. There's no point in bringing your complaint here, we can't fix it. I think you know what to do, so go do it.
"Happy Tits" = Alyssa = Alyangel = Profile Couture = Studio Demo
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You forgot Paper Plane Designs, or something like that :)
Lots of names for one person though.
I wonder if those DHD designers make any money? The website is slower than molasses.
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No kidding! I've been trying to connect for over half an hour and keep getting a time out error. All other websites are working fine.
I just popped over to DHD and got right on.
3:45, if it was me, I would want to know. Can you contact the site, if you don't want to go to the designer themselves?
^ Me again.
Forgot to say that I've bought lots of stuff there, but not from everyone. Who was it?
You could have been helpful, instead of being a dick. But there we are, sometimes we get things wrong, don't we?
BTW, I'm not the OP and I hope that someone can get her an answer.
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Lots of others seem to have their moments being jerks on here. Thought I would take a turn.
Wow, I can't believe the rants against M4H. Your post makes me think you are very unstable. Take a chill pill. 6:03 PM
Everyone is entitle to an opinion. The fact that you tell someone to take a chill pill and call them unstable is such a common response from someone who is just as unstable and relates to the OP. Seriously your not on her fan page and neither am I ATM so rant away.
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I do like MyFourHens though she does come off sometimes as spoiled and full of herself.1:34 PM
I have to agree with the person who posted this so so true and I don't think your off your meds for having an opinion that is your own.
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At least she gave people the benefit of the doubt and a reminder before having to turn it off. Anyone with an ounce of business sense would have done the same as she did. 3:42 PM
I completely agree with this action, business is business.
So what if the OP is bitter let her be because that was one good read! The truth hurts and we can't all be loving on the same day!
Lots of others seem to have their moments being jerks on here. Thought I would take a turn.
December 29, 2011 8:34 PM
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Fair call.
I was aware that some designers would split their kits into papers, elements, clusters, alphas, styles, but this is the first time I see "layers" sold separately:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?p=3081827#post3081827
Is that a new trend? I have never seen this before. Have you? Maybe it is a way to add some "odds and ends".
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to me that doesn't seem very different from offering worn papers as an extra addon pack, which designers have been doing for years. so this time, the worn papers are just in different shapes/sizes. not new at all, though, in concept.
Remember that the Jauary blog train comes just one month after the December one, instead of giving a two month period to breathe. That is a reason I would not participate if I had joined the one in December. In addition to being a busy "real life" period for many.
Yeah, that.
I was aware that some designers would split their kits into papers, elements, clusters, alphas, styles, but this is the first time I see "layers" sold separately:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?p=3081827#post3081827
Is that a new trend? I have never seen this before. Have you? Maybe it is a way to add some "odds and ends".
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Yes, I have seen this before. As the PP said, it's no different from add on paper packs, or even photo mats, borders, ribbons, etc. It's just an element pack really.
http://www.mesoscrappy.com/shoppe/product.php?productid=17518&cat=262&page=1
Oops. Look at the preview.
considering that she hasn't been at FP for quite sometime...LOL...um...yeah.
To the person posting the link to MSS, I believe MSS is not officially open yet and as much as I can see there's no link that the public can access the shoppe from homepage. That means you're probably one of the staff or someone involved with the place. Should you be doing this instead of letting the designer know so she can fix it? I hope they find out who you are.
Ummm.. the shop link is shoppe. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.
They posted on Facebook and their blog that they were opening and it took a whopping 8-10 seconds for me to 'figure out' their shop link.
Not affiliated with the site at all. I'm just nosy.
WHY WHY WHY would someone make that ugly ass duck face on their design blog?
http://coloryourmemories.blogspot.com/
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At least she's not hiding behind a bubble of gum like Hummie used to in her DST avatar.
One interesting note - MSS & Hummie's store had designer calls basically at the same time.
Which store is opening in January? Maybe Hummie should just give up? Even after 'sweetening the deal'.
WHY WHY WHY would someone make that ugly ass duck face on their design blog?
http://coloryourmemories.blogspot.com/
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The better question would be why is the blog banner so blurry?
Seems to me, based on recent posts in the DST forum, that Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant. I'm guessing she makes more money since moving to SBG from SBE but frankly, I don't see how she can charge more than 50 cents/kit. Even though she's been around for a while, I just don't see talent there. One huge turn off - so many of her things are oversaturated.
That seems to be the big conversation right now - how can anyone charge 50 cents or $1.00 for a kit?
Seems to me, based on recent posts in the DST forum, that Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant. I'm guessing she makes more money since moving to SBG from SBE but frankly, I don't see how she can charge more than 50 cents/kit. Even though she's been around for a while, I just don't see talent there. One huge turn off - so many of her things are oversaturated.
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Well, you don't but apparently others do. As long as she is making money, it really doesn't matter what you think, does it?
Seems to me, based on recent posts in the DST forum, that Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant. I'm guessing she makes more money since moving to SBG from SBE but frankly, I don't see how she can charge more than 50 cents/kit. Even though she's been around for a while, I just don't see talent there. One huge turn off - so many of her things are oversaturated.
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Hmm sounds like a bit jealousy there. Miki Ferkul is one of the nicest gals around. I'm sure she decided to move to SBG to make more money. Just because she moved like others have doesn't mean that she changed the way she has done business for years. She's definitely not a Flergs. Yes, her kits are different then others out there. That's why she has the customer base she has and no I'm not Miki.
Just because some have decided to work for SBG doesn't make them bad. I don't care for Maya but that doesn't mean I wouldn't buy from Miki, Wendy and a couple others. Scrapbook Elements has not kept up the reputation they once had.
Seems to me, based on recent posts in the DST forum, that Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant. I'm guessing she makes more money since moving to SBG from SBE but frankly, I don't see how she can charge more than 50 cents/kit. Even though she's been around for a while, I just don't see talent there. One huge turn off - so many of her things are oversaturated.
Miki Ferkul has definite ideas about some things-that doesn't make a person arrogant. If it does then you've definitely stepped up to the arrogant plate. Her stuff is not oversaturated. She has a definite style and has designed the same way for all the years she's been a designer. If more had their own styles, they might be making money too.
Miki is awesome. When I first started designing I sent her a message asking how she made one of her alphas and she took the time to tell me step by step. I love her kits, gorgeous rich colors and full of glitz. To each his own though :).
Who sells kits for 50 cents? The only way I can think you'd make money doing that is if you load your site with advertising, like the graphics fairy does. Not that the graphics fairy sells scrapbook kits but my point being that I don't think she would be giving away a free image every day if there wasn't some financial gain - and her site is filled with advertising.
....Miki Ferkul is becoming somewhat arrogant....
Why? Because she agree with something Dianne Rigdon already said? For what it's worth, I've never seen Miki Ferkul sell anything for 50 cents. Maybe she's been arrogant all along, by your standards.
That seems to be the big conversation right now - how can anyone charge 50 cents or $1.00 for a kit?
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Easy, you just change the price. Sorry, just some NY humor, or not.
The question is, how can anyone make money charging so little. You'd have to make a few sales, just to cover the PayPal fees.
Personally, as a customer I wouldn't buy from someone who constantly had $1 sales, as I'd have to question the quality of their product.
Speaking of quality, I have a favorite designer (one of many) whose designs I love, but whose quality is hit or miss. I'd like to email her and volunteer to be her QC person, or show her how to finish off some of her elements better because she has the exact same issues from kit to kit, and I honestly don't think she sees them and/or knows how to fix them.
What would YOU do if a customer contacted you and said you could do better?
What would YOU do if a customer contacted you and said you could do better?
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That would depend on how you said it. If you emailed me and said those exact words, I'd be pretty annoyed. However, if you nicely pointed out the consistent errors, I would double and triple check my stuff, thank you for your time and then think about it.
I would be appreciative. It may be something I didn't even realize.
I think it's all in how you say it. So, be nice and supportive when you email her. Don't be an ass.
I've come VERY close to asking a couple designers if they'd like for me to QC for them.
Instead I just played dumb and asked if the wrong version was uploaded and pointed it out.
Some were really nice and some (La Grier) have yet to respond. Yes. I am naming nAmes, as I've emailed her 3 times on the same issue and she doesn't respond.
Does WLS do anything but have calls? they seem to have some sort of call every month and they've only been around for two or three months.
"Playing dumb" like you say, is not that dumb. It gives the chance to the designer to correct the situation and she might (or not) let it go as if it were the wrong version, and the person emailing is not putting her on the spot as in "you did it wrong". I think as a designer, I would not might that. It is, in fact, a tactful way to approach the issue, in my opinion.
Taking a look at new SSD. My first thought - Oh look, it's sugar hill. They are even doing free with $10 purchase.
The new look is boring. Also, someone must have broken the news to Traci and Meg that you can't make exact replicas of Angry Birds and release them in a kit, since it isn't in the store now.
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If you look in 2 Scoops it's still there.
Hmm you're right. It's there now. If it were some nobody newbie designers, that kit wouldn't fly.
If it were some nobody newbie designers, that kit wouldn't fly.
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Isn't that the norm with SSD though?
"What would YOU do if a customer contacted you and said you could do better?"
I've done this more than a few times for a designer I used to CT for. I was always nice and diplomatic and she was always thankful. In the end it's me who couldn't take it anymore and resigned. I felt like I was spoiling her. Sometimes when it happens often enough you just have to get the clue and improve already!
I just started looking through the blog train sites to see if anything looks good yet, using the list in the DCR for those of you who end up checking the blog train site and see it isn't up yet, and somewhere in the first 5 or 10 is this site: http://snackpackgu.blogspot.com/ Apparently she liked the palette so much she re-did her entire blog to coordinate??? Wow. What a big hot mess. I'd have had trouble using that palette for a mini, let alone an entire blog.
In SSD's new designer feature on the blog, Lauren Grier makes herself look like a complete lunatic. Go have yourself a read if you're bored.
So i finally got around to looking at the colors of the blog train and i though, hmm... colors look familiar. Then i remembered a speed scrap freebie i got with the same colors! i didn't think they looked so bad then, but the blog train just makes them look horrid!
http://scrapmatters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26611
I just started looking through the blog train sites to see if anything looks good yet, using the list in the DCR for those of you who end up checking the blog train site and see it isn't up yet, and somewhere in the first 5 or 10 is this site: http://snackpackgu.blogspot.com/ Apparently she liked the palette so much she re-did her entire blog to coordinate??? Wow. What a big hot mess. I'd have had trouble using that palette for a mini, let alone an entire blog.
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I think it's a cute idea. She redid her blog to reflect the blog train mini last month too and again, it also looked really cute. (and no I'm not her)
So you don't like the colors this month - who cares? You know, lot's of scrappers actually might like it and if they don't - they can walk on by. No one is forcing anyone to download a freebie but guess what? I downloaded her's and a few others. Some of them were pretty good!
Digital Creations from Millstream Cottage http://digitalcreationsfrommillstrea...e.blogspot.com
Digital Harmony http://digitalharmony-dhds.squarespace.com/
Digi Deborah Designs http://digideborahsdesigns.blogspot.com/
Ocean Wide Designs http://www.oceanwidedesigns.com
HotFlashDesigns http://www.p-u-s-h.typepad.com
Snackpackgu's Designs http://snackpackgu.blogspot.com/
Wishing Well Creations http://www.wishingwellcreations.com
Amanda & Millie Designs http://sewretrosoyou.com
Trixie Scraps Designs http://blog.trixiescraps.com
Studio Linda Renee http://studio-linda-renee.blogspot.com/
Let Me Scrapbook! http://letmescrapbook.blogspot.com/
Marie h designs http://mariehdesignsscrap.blogspot.com/
studio 68 http://sixtyeight.wordpress.com/
Blue Flower Art http://ctrl-alt-doll.net/blog
Ronda's Scrap Bits http://rjsscrapbits.blogspot.com/
SugarBeans Design http://sugarbeansdesign.blogspot.com
Eyeinspire http://eyeinspire.com/
Pardon the Mess http://pardonthemess.com
WendyBird Designs http://wendybirddesigns.blogspot.com
Digilicious Designs http://digilicious.typepad.com/digi_licious_designs/
Milly Dee http://craftingatyourspecialdelivery.blogspot.com/
Mikki Designs http://mikkidesigns.blogspot.com/
Designs by Angel http://scrappingwithangel.blogspot.com
Jen C Designs http://www.jen-c-designs.com/blog
designs by krista http://designsbykrista.net/blog/
Snips and Snails Designs http://www.snipsandsnailsscraps.blogspot.com
jusme digital http://jusmedigital.com/jusmeblog
3 Li'l Monsters Designs http://3lilmonsters.com/
OutsideTheBoxDesignStudio http://outsidetheboxdesignstudio.blogspot.com
MagsGraphics http://magsgraphics.blogspot.com
Luv Ewe Designs http://luvewedesigns.com/
Word Art World http://wordartworld.blogspot.com
roseytoes designs http://roseytoesdesigns.com/blog
Dana's Footprint Digtial Design http://danasfootprintdesigns.blogspot.com/
Scraps by Mara http://scrapsbymara.blogspot.com/
DeMoraes Http://profile-couture.me
The Urban Fairy http://www.theurbanfairymilana.com/blog
Scrappin Wright http://scrappinwright.blogspot.com/
MaitriScraps http://www.maitriscraps.blogspot.com
AW Design http://nurmiscrap.blogspot.com/
Ramona Memories http://dreamconnectionforum.blogspot.com/
Coloryourmemories http://coloryourmemories.blogspot.com/
A-liya http://a-liya.blogspot.com/
My 4 Princesses Designs http://www.my4princessesdesigns.blogspot.com
The Brown Owl http://brownowlscrapping.blogspot.com/
Mye De Leon http://myedeleon.com
Bon Scrapatit Designs http://bonscrapatitdesigns.blogspot.com/
Alejas Designs http://www.alejasdesigns.blogspot.com
Marisa Lerin http://www.pixelscrapper.com
Pizazz Pixels http://pizazzpixels.blogspot.com
Dawn by Design http://dawnfarias.blogspot.com
Aimee Harrison http://www.girlboheme.com/gbstudios/
Today's Scrap http://todaysscrapbyvickyday.blogspot.com/
Damsel Designs www.damseldesigns.blogspot.com
4 My Babies Scraps http://4mybabiesscraps.blogspot.com/
Elaine Therese Digital Designs http://elainetheresedigitaldesigns.com/
KatyBugScraps http://katybugscraps.blogspot.com/
Jumpstart Designs http://jumpstartdesigns.blogspot.com/
Stargazy Creations http://stargazy-creations.blogspot.com
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SnickerdoodleDesignsByKaren http://snickerdoodledesignsbykaren.c...ory/categories
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Stamper www.sugarbuttdesigns.com
Myst Designs http://oceanmystdesigns.blogspot.com/
A-Manda Creation http://www.amandacreation.blogspot.com
FranB Designs http://franscraps.blogspot.com
Angie Kovacs Digital Designs http://akdigitaldesigns.blogspot.com/
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Julie Enriquez Designs http://julieenriquezdesigns.blogspot.com/
Me So Scrappy store is open. Doesn't make me want to shop.
I went and looked at the designer feature on the SSD blog. Holy shit I had to check twice. I thought Lauren Grier and Laura Banasiak were the same person. Between their kits looking alike, they have matching glasses.
I don't like the new look of SSD!!! It does look too much like SugarHillCo. I thought the old look was soooo much better. I do however like the freebie section!!! Some of those mini's are just too cute to pass up! There are a few designers there that I haven't bought from before so now i'll get my chance to check out their stuff before I commit to buying!
Me So Scrappy Shoppe opening... I'm a little underwhelmed! I wasn't expecting to see many big name or any name designers there but was pleasantly surprised to see Aprilissa there. I like her style. There are a few designers there that I wouldn't buy from but who knows what'll happen over the next few months.
Wow. The 20 questions sounds like a rambling mental patient. As if one needs to keep reminding themself to breathe?
To the poster above- I agree that their frames are similar but otherwise, they look nothing alike, IMO.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
Just MSS's policy of NEVER resetting d/l links makes me not want to shop there.. ever. Even if she charged a fee for it, that would be fine. But to just say you're never going to do it is ridiculous IMO.
Why is that ridiculous? A store should not be responsible for your laziness of not backing up your own downloads.
You wouldn't expect a grocery store to replace food that spoiled early because you didn't put them into the fridge. There is no reason I can see of that a store should be responsible for resetting your downloads that you didn't secure. It takes time to do that, and that time is better spent working on productive things. Not taking care of lazy/irresponsible people.
Sometimes the problem isn't laziness, it's an unreliable internet connection or a glitch. One time DownThemAll freaked out on me and used all 5 of my clicks without actually downloading anything. It would have really sucked for me to lose all the stuff I purchased.
If stores want to provide good customer service and guarantee that customers return, they should reset download links. There are many, many, many stores in digi-land with thousands of designers. It's hard to stand out in the crowd that's for sure. One way you don't want to stand out is by being known as the store with the crappy customer service and refusing to reset download links is seen as bad service.
You the cusomter might download a link but then not open that file for a week only to find that it didn't download correctly be it your fault or a faulty zip or the connection was reset during the download, etc., etc. The list is long and if the policy of the store is not to reset download links, you're pretty much screwed. So will you as a customer shop there again? Nope.
I was poster 1:47. The two posters after me made some very valid points I hadn't considered. Thanks for your posts! There are legit reasons a store should reset download links. I stand corrected.
When I first started scrapping about 6 years ago, I didn't know about backing up my ehd and lost everything on it. I had spend almost $300 on kits about 3 months before the crash and I contacted all of the stores that I bought from and they reset the links for me. If they hadn't reset them, I would have been out all of that money, plus, I would have never shopped there again. Because they did, I purchase from these stores each and EVERY month and usually spend about $150. I would not buy from any store that would not reset links!!!! You never know what could happen. A store that isn't willing to provide the best customer service possible would lose me as a potential customer!!!
So... Me So Scrappy staff, owners, management type people... Keep this in mind when setting policies!!!
I can't remember which store it was a few years ago that wouldn't reset the links for someone who had an ehd crash, but they were a french store and I know that there was a huge fuss about it and the store closed. Anyone know who that was?
I THOUGHT I read something similar elsewhere, lo and behold, the mighty SSD:
links reset policy: http://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/sweetshoppe/home.php
I think it's ridiculous. It doesn't take THAT long to reset links, and honestly would you rather spend 5 or 10 minutes resetting links or loose a customer forever. It doesn't seem like rocket science, however, evidently it IS. Stores may want to think before having such a superior attitude ... le sigh
Please will someone with more guts than me, go ask the question at DST? would be interesting to hear the customer's opinion...
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Considering that SSD have had that policy for at least two years, I think it's probably closer to three, and are still in business and apparently booming, it's clearly working for them.
I remember when they put that policy in place and I don't blame one bit.
Wow. The 20 questions sounds like a rambling mental patient. As if one needs to keep reminding themself to breathe?
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I don't know Lauren from a hole in the wall. It read like an open and honest interview, maybe she should have lied instead, but then some of you would have nothing to smack today. She didn't sound mental to me at all.
I'm not a shopper of SSD but they have had the look of cupcakes and candy since the beginning. A few months ago, y'all were saying how much SugarHill Co copied SSD in the idea of cupcakes and candy, and now it's the other way around? Wow.
Sounds like a contradiction to me.
And I prefer the new look.
I don't see anything wrong with SSD's link reset policy. It's not like they wont reset links at all. I have customers email me about orders placed 2 years ago and their EHDs failed and they have no back-ups and would I go through all their orders and send them links.
It's completely and utterly ridiculous to expect such a thing from a store or designer.
If you can't manage to unzip your files when you download, you may want to reconsider DIGITAL scrapbooking.
The links and products to be reset may not be in the store indefinitely. Some carts only retain the information for a limited time which would mean giving the customer a coupon to re-buy the product since it's no longer there to be reset and then designers move on which means the files are no longer there. I think that under those circumastances there is no option but to refuse the reset.
Damnit I wish SSD would get their shop fixed. I placed my order hours ago and it is still don't have download links. I want to scrap damnit, I'm impatient lol. Other than that I love the look of the shop now and really appreciate the freebies.
I just grabbed freebies about 10 minutes ago and the links generated on the spot.
I can't even get on the site, get an error message........SSD that is.
SSD seems to be up and down today.
I like the SSD redesign. I especially love the bigger previews. I wish my store did them that large.
What a bunch of crap. Why do people feel it's their mission to tell people what scrapbooking is?
http://tellyourstoryeveryday.com/2012/01/welcome-to-tell-your-story-every-day/
Who would need any digital scrapbooking supplies if all they ever did was put only photos and journaling on pages?
I love layers and clusters and great photos, too. But I save my journaling for private - not for scrapbooking galleries. I know many others do, too. Even if I didn't, we don't need another person telling us we're not doing something right.
I don't print my pages in a book because I care about the environment. No needless paper and all the chemicals they use to make those books! I can easily make an online photo"book" and share it with everyone - for free and without any unnecessary environmental impact and cost.
You just lost my business, TDC.
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no one said you have to pay attention to that new blog and idea....it says its a "sister" site, much like their Hybrid blog is. The entire shop isn't converting to just this idea alone. Sounds like you have a problem with the Digichick in general. and who needs a customer like you around? LOL....obviously they have plenty more.
Yes, she has such a problem with them that she was a customer. What an idiot.
I think that whole idea is stupid, too, but I don't shop at TDC anyway.
Anyone know where Micheline Martin is moving this time? That girl seems to move stores every 6 months or so.
"http://tellyourstoryeveryday.com/2012/01/welcome-to-tell-your-story-every-day/
I love layers and clusters and great photos, too. But I save my journaling for private - not for scrapbooking galleries. I know many others do, too. Even if I didn't, we don't need another person telling us we're not doing something right."
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I actually think what you're doing is exactly what the blog post is about. They didn't emphasize the importance of printing or showing your stories in galleries. It's about having the story to tell and then tell it on the page. It's always your decision whether to share it and with whom. I kinda think you're taking it too seriously and too literally. The post might sound a bit snotty and make certain people (like you) feel defensive alright. In that case it's just fine and fair for you to not shop with them anymore. Although I feel that a lot more are willing to.
I have to agree that Nicole comes off sounding like a bit of a snot. I can see how someone would think she is saying that we are not scrapping correctly if we aren't journaling and printing every layout. She's maybe not quite as talented at communicating with scrappers as she thinks she is.
But it seems to me that the true intention of that site is to encourage scrappers who started out wanting to make books and scrap memories. I think she is trying to motivate people to move away from focusing on a perfect piece of art, and focus instead on scrapping a page full of memories. Which is nice.
It's a little unfortunate that she wrote that intro in such a way that it feels less motivational and more like her preaching/talking down to everyone that her way is the only way. It's a little off putting. To me at least.
"http://tellyourstoryeveryday.com/2012/01/welcome-to-tell-your-story-every-day/
I love layers and clusters and great photos, too. But I save my journaling for private - not for scrapbooking galleries.
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She never said you had to put your journaling in the galleries, but that journaling should be there, because no one else will tell the story. That's all she said. Wow, why so defensive?
I didn't see Nicole coming of as a snot at all and I'm surprised that some of you had that reaction. I don't even know Nicole and she just sounds like someone trying to remind herself about why she scraps.
I'm still amazed at the reaction some of you had.
I didn't see Nicole coming of as a snot at all and I'm surprised that some of you had that reaction. I don't even know Nicole and she just sounds like someone trying to remind herself about why she scraps.
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I don't know her either but I do think she sounded a tad condescending.
I didn't take Nicole's posts as condescending at all. For me it was a good reminder that I started scrapping to scrap ... and I got side-tracked along the way and have not been scrapping much. I guess for those of us who needed that reminder, it's a great site, for those of you who didn't it seems un-necessary and condescending.
read in hummies newsletter that she is postponing her designer contest, as there are only 4 contestants, and is waiting for more to sign up. its been over a month since she announced it...and has FOUR people. and...her store "The Boomerang" won't be opening soon, as she says she is still developing new talent for it. She has ONE designer. ONE.
LOL at developing new talent
LMFAO
http://www.hummiesworld.com/store/Hummie-s-Vellum-Layer-Styles.html
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What's your point? She's setting up the store, that's not the real price or are you laughing at the style? I've seen much worse.
It's a lot of work setting up a store, especially if you're doing it yourself. I give Hummie a lot of credit for that.
Who would need any digital scrapbooking supplies if all they ever did was put only photos and journaling on pages?
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I didn't take it this way at all. I just read it as a reminder that the point is to record our memories and do it in a meaningful way. I liked the reminder, because it made me realize that I had in fact started focusing more on scrapping beautiful pages and less on the memories. It made me reevaluate the way I scrap. Why spend 3hrs on creating a perfect layout, if I could spend those same 3hrs getting a month's worth of photos into a book, with notes about things that I will otherwise forget in 5 years?
You can call her tone condescending if you like, and take it however you like, just as we all can. But it was just the sort of kick in the pants I needed, and after getting the notice in the newsletter and reading the site's first post, I was glad to have read it.
I don't plan on stopping using kits and elements when I scrap, at all, but I do think I will be more mindful of not wasting away lots of valuable time just to get ooohs and ahhhs in a gallery. I'd rather create something my family can hold in their hands (or view on a computer) and oooh and ahhh. That was the point I got out of it.
And no, I am not her or any other TDC member. Just a customer, for all of the conspiracy theorists out there who will feel compelled to come back after this post and label me.
I do think I will be more mindful of not wasting away lots of valuable time just to get ooohs and ahhhs in a gallery. I'd rather create something my family can hold in their hands (or view on a computer) and oooh and ahhh.
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^^This!
Every time I give mini albums or calendars for Christmas gifts, I'm reminded by how much people appreciate them, even if I'm not the most "talented" scrapper out there (and I use that phrase loosely, because it's highly based on individual perception). No one in my family has ever mentioned that I could have shadowed better, or I should have followed the rule of thirds, or I could have clustered more.
I realized at the end of last year that I had pretty much failed in my scrapping. I made several layouts that I didn't even save the full size layout - at the time I was just focused on scrapping something with the kit, but now I really wish I had the layout at a printable size (I am not noble enough to save trees, I kind of want the real thing to oooh and ahhh over). I think all Nicole is saying is to remember why we started this in the first place. Valid point, as far as I am concerned. What harm is there in self-evaluation? Especially at this time of year.
No needless paper and all the chemicals they use to make those books! I can easily make an online photo"book" and share it with everyone - for free and without any unnecessary environmental impact and cost.
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Excuse me? Unless you are running a solar generated computer, etc, etc, you are making an impact on the environment using electricity. You are sounding even more condescending that you thought Nicole was.
I didn't take it this way at all. I just read it as a reminder that the point is to record our memories and do it in a meaningful way.
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That's the way I read it too.
I don't print my pages in a book because I care about the environment. No needless paper
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You are aware, although clearly not, that they grow trees just to make paper. Those trees are good for the environment too. Unless you plan on throwing out your pages after you printed them, I don't see a needless waste of paper.
No one in my family has ever mentioned that I could have shadowed better, or I should have followed the rule of thirds, or I could have clustered more.
This!!
My family wants to know two things: 1) why the photos are so small, and 2) why their name isn't bigger.
I think the http://tellyourstoryeveryday.com site is a great idea. Don't forget that the digital scrap stores need to find a broader market and a more lucrative niche. This is the Digicick's way of doing it. It doesn't mean any more or any less than that, and people taking offense at how it's introduced just need to step back and not take it so personally. I am on Nicole's mailing list (but not a Digichick groupie, CT, DT, or even a forum poster), so naturally I do not think she's a snot of any kind.
A head's up about the blog train. Someone just posted in the DCR that there's a virus in one of the downloads, so be careful. People should be scanning their downloads before they open them.
Anyone know where Micheline Martin is moving this time? That girl seems to move stores every 6 months or so.
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Why did she ever leave SSD? Anyone know?
I guess I should apologize for not realizing there were so many morons who sit in front of the computer to scrap and actually FORGET WHY they scrap.
I should commend Nicole for finding the stupidest group of people as a market niche.
I guess I should apologize for not realizing there were so many morons who sit in front of the computer to scrap and actually FORGET WHY they scrap.
I should commend Nicole for finding the stupidest group of people as a market niche.
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Puhleeeeze. You know just as well as I do that a good number of scrappers in digiland get caught up in kit-collecting and CTing for that reason, and stop scrapping "for themselves" because they're too busy scrapping "for designers." Nobody here said that everyone does that. But we all know it happens, and probably more than we would even think. For those who are fine with doing that because it's their hobby and they just like making pages, that's completely fine. However, for those who actually want to preserve their family's memories, the reminder to scrap for that reason is a good one. If it doesn't apply to you, then ignore it. She didn't put a gun to your head. I see no reason why would would be taking offense to it, other than the fact that from the tone of your post(s) here, you seem to be a real asshole.
Doesn't TDC have a creative team? I'm sure they have responsibilities other than memory keeping. Maybe Nicole changed that with their new sister site philosophy, but I doubt it.
Are you trying to say Nicole was out to change the small handful of scrappers who are on creative teams?
To those who are taking offense to Nicole's post - you're likely the rapid CT - designer-pimping type. The type that never journals - just wants a GSO. Sure - defend what you're doing as "art" but I commend Nicole! She's a straight talker. And I'm in no way affiliated with TDC. And I'm not even a designer. I'm a scrapper who scraps for personal pleasure - not the glory of others! You'll never see my pages anywhere but in the hands of friends and family.
Doesn't TDC have a creative team? I'm sure they have responsibilities other than memory keeping. Maybe Nicole changed that with their new sister site philosophy, but I doubt it.
Are you trying to say Nicole was out to change the small handful of scrappers who are on creative teams?
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Are you for real? I have to believe that you're not being serious, and are just playing devil's advocate here b/c you like to argue. Give it up. Like PP before me said, you don't have to like what she said or what the new site is about. Just like I don't have to like you. And I don't.
I just read that post from Nicole (who I had only heard the name before). Although I might not agree 100% with her (like you don't need to print something to record the information), her point makes sense. Being a "sister" site, it sure is not meant to take away the "digital supplies sales".
Her point is only a question. Then we answer as we want. It reminds me of something I had also noticed in the digiscrap (very obvious in DST): people looking for specific theme supplies. Do you think that all the layouts should have themed papers/elements to fit the theme of the photo? Sometimes, sure. But if the focus is on the pregnancy photos, does one really NEED to have pregnancy related papers, elements, wordarts, etc.? Can't someone scrap a beautiful beach photo without a beach theme paper or a Christmas photo without a red and green garland element?
Maybe Nicole has a very valid point: get back to basics first and build from there.
I agree with Nicole's point that it's a good idea to focus on scrapping memories. I also agree that she sounds kind of snotty in the way she says it.
I understand wanting to defend her and I sympathize with her having her feelings hurt by what people are saying here. It would be hard not to feel defensive. But being defensive here isn't going to help with the large percent of TDC customers who don't read here that may or may not be thinking the exact same thing.
When several people are saying that her tone feels condescending, it might be a sign that she should try to modify the way she presents herself there. It's up to her, she can keep on just the way she has been if she chooses to. But it's apparent that she's alienating some people.
I see this as just a way of jumping on the Project Life bandwagon that Becky Higgins and Ali Edwards are already promoting. Personally, I don't find this style of scrapping appealing at all, but I can see where there may be a new market for Nicole.
Because they're doing a P365 project? Suzy Q Scraps did her's last year with Ziggle whats-her-name - many many many designers have done them in the past.
several stores have already jumped on the Project Life thing, OScraps (Paislee Press) being the biggest one. I'm sure that SBG, MScraps, etc won't be far behind with their versions. None of them have a "sister" site dedicated to it tho. So Nicole included the Digichick in this project and her take on it. So what? This new style isn't taking over the Digchick, its being incorportated in along with everything else.
I didn't take her introduction to TYOS as snotty - she is obviously very excited about this and its showing.
To those who are taking offense to Nicole's post - you're likely the rapid CT - designer-pimping type. The type that never journals - just wants a GSO. Sure - defend what you're doing as "art" but I commend Nicole! She's a straight talker. And I'm in no way affiliated with TDC. And I'm not even a designer. I'm a scrapper who scraps for personal pleasure - not the glory of others! You'll never see my pages anywhere but in the hands of friends and family.
January 3, 2012 8:08 AM
And you're probably one of those Americans with an inflated sense of self-importance who feels the need to document every time little Johnny uses the "potty."
Here's a clue - no one cares. But please, continue to document every useless piece of minutia that happens in your pathetic life.
^^^ God would it suck to inhabit your skin. Your comment is telling of a life FAR more pathetic than the one about which you commented.
My family wants to know two things: 1) why the photos are so small, and 2) why their name isn't bigger.
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This made me laugh! I just spent a weekend listening to my Dad complain, because he loves my pages, but he can't print them off on his printer at home, since I scrap in 12x12, and he thinks the words are too small! Which is really funny, because a few pages ago, someone was talking about how journaling never needed to be larger than 12 pt and mine is already 18! I think sometimes, we really do forget who we are scrapping for.
^^^ God would it suck to inhabit your skin. Your comment is telling of a life FAR more pathetic than the one about which you commented.
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Agreed.
To the TDC hater,
No one was attacking you personally at all. No one. They just felt differently and stated their reasons calmly. Some even agreed with the point you made to some degree. That's until you came and started calling people names. I think that's uncalled for and unnecessarily. Can't you just accept that your way is not the only way in the world to do things? You don't want to shop at TDC. Fine. If others still do, it's their money. I'm thinking the one with "an inflated sense of self-importance" here, is you.
I'm the OP about TDC and I find it funny you all think every other comment about not liking TDC is from one person. This is my second post about this topic.
Scrapbooking is a lot like any other activity : there are different reasons to do it and they are mostly right. Someone can paint to make money, or just as a hobby. Someone can take photos to find the perfect shot and become a great photographer, others will just have fun and try to capture some candid shots. Nobody is wrong. It is just different. Let's just agree that some people scrap differently than others or for different reasons than others. Find YOUR way, YOUR reason, and scrap YOUR pages.
And you're probably one of those Americans with an inflated sense of self-importance who feels the need to document every time little Johnny uses the "potty."
Here's a clue - no one cares. But please, continue to document every useless piece of minutia that happens in your pathetic life.
January 3, 2012 12:03 PM
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Bitter and twisted much?
I'm glad you scrap because you're so desperate for your fake digi friends and FB friends you have not and never will meet to gush and comment on your layouts.
Personally I scrap layouts I love for the people I love - and see in my real life. For me it's a great stress relief and helps me remember the "minutae" when I'm juggling a full time job and three kids. I can't be bothered with the pathetic ass-kissing your type does fawning over the designers. But I like digital scrapbooking because it allows me to document memories that others think are minutae, but I know are memories.
And I'm not American.
Anything any good with the blog train this month?
very little. there are a couple of designers that managed to make that disgusting palette into something worth grabbing, but only to use with things I already own. I wouldn't DL enough of this train to call it a "kit" even. kudos to the designers who knew how to make something workable from such a hot mess of colors.
Johnny's wife, kids and grand kids will want to see him potty, I guarantee it!
On the blogtrain, it hasn't been mentioned much here, probably because it's not smack worthy - just sort of sad.
Of the kits I downloaded, which were the ones that had a preview with one or two items I thought I might like, I kept some of the following:
Millstream Cottage (elements)
Hotflash Designs (papers)
Wishing Well Creations (both)
Milly Dee (elements)
Sugarbeans (floral Paper)
***Awards***
Best Kit Overall: Dawn by Design:
Runner up: Mikki Livanos
Paper Heart Studio
Runner Up: Wishing Well Creations
Most Improved: jusme
When several people are saying that her tone feels condescending, it might be a sign that she should try to modify the way she presents herself there.
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On the other hand, when several people on here are saying they didn't read it as condescending, it might be a sign that others need to rethink they way they read things.
Just a thought.
I see this as just a way of jumping on the Project Life bandwagon that Becky Higgins and Ali Edwards are already promoting.
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Which they jumped on from some guy who is not even a scrapper or a designer.
Just saying. Contrary to scrapper beliefs, Becky and Ali DID NOT come up with Project 365.
And you're probably one of those Americans with an inflated sense of self-importance who feels the need to document every time little Johnny uses the "potty."
Johnny learning how to use the potty is a big deal to the parents who have waited for the little one to be out of their nappies. Just like taking a bath and laying on a bear rug. So yes it is a big deal no matter what yout nationality. Of course that does leave you out which must mean you don't have a little Johnny or you don't think children deserve their big moments in life!!
Find YOUR way, YOUR reason, and scrap YOUR pages.
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Bingo!
Hotflash Designs? Sugarbutt Designs? Seriously???
From Hot Flash Designs:
This kit is totally unique. I sat here for hours with my nose pressed up against the screen, converting cross stitch patterns I found online to patterns I could use for scrapbook papers and elements. It wasn't easy, but I think it was worth it! I LOVE this kit!
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Isn't that a copyright infringement?
Of the kits I downloaded, which were the ones that had a preview with one or two items I thought I might like, I kept some of the following:
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Gawd you have horrible taste.
Gawd you have horrible taste.
Yeah, yeah, blah, blah... Let's hear who you thought were good, or even okay? No? I didn't think so. You are obviously so elevated in your art that you wouldn't stoop to free blog train downloads. ..which makes me wonder why you'd have ANY opinion at all? Think of yourself as Paris Hilton. She wouldn't have an opinion on the new fall fashions at wal-mart, would she?
I was as surprised as you, but I gave them all a fair shake, and those were the ones who came out on top IMHO. My regulars - the designers who are already established and selling at great shops - left me totally disappointed this train, and I didn't keep a single element or paper from any of them.
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