So Shannon posted her call for the DST creative team. Do you think her inbox is overflowing with designer "applications" for this opportunity? Who do you think will apply and get selected? The requirements don't seem to be unreasonable, the only promotion indicated seemed to be sporting a blinkie, and creating \ posting the layout. Seems she plans on starting this next month, any speculation on the featured designer for August?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=132020
This is in support of the following letter that was sent to the designers:
As Digital Scrapbook Designers and Store Owners, we know how important it is to make your product stand out admist a sea of others in this oversaturated market. At DST, we are always trying to think of new ways that we can help you acheive your goals - from the free Digital Directory and Designer Announcements forum, to the low-priced Product Gallery and New Products forum. We know that we often have more advertisers than space to offer so we try to think of various ways that we can offer more to those who want it. Our banner ads are sold out through 2008 with a large waiting list. Our newsletter can only hold so many ads before it becomes overrun by marketing. So we've created another package that we think will benefit the Digital Designer or Store Owner who is looking to showcase one truly fabulous product in the largest way possible.
We're assembling a Creative Team at DST comprised of some of the best digital scrapbookers in the industry. Their job will be to show off the many ways that your one product can be used from a variety of digital layouts (both rectangle and square), to a multitude of hybrid projects to an assortment of cards and invitations. These projects will be featured in the DST Insider along with a large image of your kit preview (linked direct to your store, of course) as well as quotes from each scrapper about what they liked about the kit. Our hope is not only to showcase the product of your choice but to also encourage scrappers to use their digital kits for more than one project and to see the spectrum of potential ideas that your product could be used for. Naturally, our team will be posting their projects in the DST gallery and we will also require that they post it in their other galleries as well (a minimum of 1 additional gallery).
We will be offering this to only one designer or store owner per month so that you can get the full exposure and benefit of the opportunity. The introductory cost for this package is $350. Because we can only offer this to one designer or store owner per month, we encourage you to request a month when you will be releasing a product you are truly excited about or (if you're a store owner) to consider showcasing a collaborative kit that your design team will be releasing together.
If you would like to apply to have your product considered, please email me at shannon@digishoptalk.com with the following information:
First and Last Contact Name:
Contact Email:
Paypal Billing Address:
Month you would like to be featured:
Please also attach a preview of the product you would like featured. The preview should be at least 500x500 pixels so that we can see as much detail as possible.
I'm sorry but we cannot guarantee that everyone will be featured during the month that they would like. We will do our best to accomodate everyone that we can.
If you have any questions or suggestions for this or any other possible promotional opportunity at DST, please feel free to contact me and share your ideas! We look forward to this exciting new opportunity to promote your business and inspire the digital community together.
Shannon Bieger
Owner/Founder
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 235 of 235GABS = Scrapper who has some kind of promotional blog. I still can't figure out how it works - do designers pay her and her team to create layouts for the kit they want to have her promote?
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I'm guessing that the designers pay GABs only, while the rest of the team gets the free kit. In return, the designer gets promoted on Gab's blog and the Gab's team gets the privilege of being on Gab's team.
Is this blog being discussed in the DCR?
Anything promoted by Gabs goes on my do not buy list. She is the queen of annoying, in your face, over the top pimping.
Is this blog being discussed in the DCR?
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Not specifically. Most designers claim they don't know about the 'bad blogs' and don't wish to. But it seems like from some of the comments there are designers posting here.
So designers are you too chicken to admit you read this blog?
Have to told everyone you don't read smack blogs when actually you do?
I would go out on a limb and make the crazy assumption that if a designer is wasting time in the DCR, they are also reading these blogs. Oh and any designer that continuously stumbles on pirated kit links = pirate.
Anything promoted by Gabs goes on my do not buy list. She is the queen of annoying, in your face, over the top pimping.
July 8, 2008 9:17 AM
Yep. Same here.
Anything promoted by Gabs goes on my do not buy list. She is the queen of annoying, in your face, over the top pimping.
July 8, 2008 9:17 AM
Yep. Same here.
July 8, 2008 6:20 PM
Here also. Especially after it took some drama on a smack blog to get GABS to do the right thing and put the names on the layouts.
Those designers are going to regret letting her pimp their stuff and so will the CT's who are helping her.
From what i'm told, the only mention in the DCR of the blogs posting information is them either complaining about them, ignoring them and taking "the higher road" or saying they dont know about them at all.
When designers are trashed left and right - and some are trashed without deserving it (I'll agree, some do deserve the smacks they get, but I know a few who have been smacked for no reason other than someone doesn't like them)- do you think they are going to jump up and down and say - yay!!!! I love those blogs!
If they (shall I say WE?) go to them it's to watch the train wreck or it's because someone said hey, they are talking about you on such and such blog. And what they're saying ain't nice. And for some sick twisted reason we have this need to know what some "anonymous" person thinks about us. Forget what our friends think about us. Forget the fact that 90% of the people who we know aren't here trying to destroy us - we have to know what anonymous is saying. Because those are the people that matter.
Or, maybe they are going and breathing a sigh of relief that their name isn't being brought up today or hasn't been brought up ever, that today they are smacking on so and so.
So, yes, I'm a designer. Yes, I'm reading. Yes, I'm in the DCR. I don't think that much excitement happens there. It's a business tool. Sure there are a couple of moments when stupid stuff is said or done, but what area of life are you not going to get that.
Did you want to know how to get your images to show up in your newsletter? Did you want to know that someone's color schemes are awesome. If not, your really not missing a hell of a lot in the DCR.
I'm posting as anonymous because then I know what I'm saying must really matter.
Maybe they're not talking about it or commenting at the blogs about it because it's Truth and they really have nothing to say to excuse their bad behaviour.
10:38 While I appreciate that you are speaking out as a designer, lets be honest.
A LOT more happens in the DCR then what you elude to as evidenced this evening at "the Darkside" (what an eye opener).
Personal information being shared, large purchases being flagged for "closer examination" then being compared with other designers and the list goes on.
Lets not pretend the DCR is the quiet mundane forum where nothing that needs to be noted takes place.
You know, I really don't understand why designers are making a point to go to these smack blogs and profess innocents and how cute and fun the DST thread is for "Designers Only".
And that it's just one big professional gang bang, but let's face it, screenshots lately have proven otherwise. And before this little train ride is over, the DST and it's "innocent" designers are gonna look like a bunch of 2 faced bitches.
Of course, that's what most of us have been saying all along.
And what dates are on the screen shots? This is not something that happens every day in there. Like I said, every once in awhile someone does something stupid - just like every where else. And on the Naughty Pimptress thing, things were being checked because she was known for using other designers' products and giving them away as her own on one of her blogs awhile ago.
You all were smacking us for saying we didn't read or for complaining about it. I told you what I thought.
I guess designers can't win for losing around here. But, that's the way most of you want it. Why do you even bother with digital scrapping with our products if you have such hate and animosity for most of the designers out there.
Maybe you should find a new hobby where you don't hate the people behind the scenes making what you need to use. or, if you want to digital scrap, make your own stuff for your own use. Might be less stressful. All of that hate inside of you can't be good for you.
Known for using other designers products??? GOOD GRIEF. She has explained SEVERAL TIMES at the DST that she purchased some CU items on ebay and used them for her kits. How was she to know the person selling the stuff was 1. not the original designer and 2. ripped some other designers kits?
It amazes me how some can be forgiven for mistakes yet others cannot just because of who they are.
I've been at the DST for quite a long time and have sat back and quietly watched all the crap that transpires.
Michelle Powell - a PROVEN pirate is still in the DCR. Explain that?
They CLAIM they removed pimptress because her store was closed yet Carrie Stephens store is closed and she's still there. There are a number of designers with no stores who STILL have access to the DCR. Tell me that isnt a witch hunt?
You holier-than-thous get a tack up your ass and decide who is worthy and who isnt. Who is allowed to make an error and who isnt.
New designers arent "welcomed into the fold" they're treated shabbily because most of the "established designers" cant stand the competition. There are so many cliques at DST it's SICKENING.
Why am I still there? Because I CAN be...maybe for this exact purpose - to shed light on something that has been overlooked for way too long.
11:50 I couldnt have put it better myself.
That's the excuse every time - I bought it on ebay. How could I know? I'll call what everyone else likes to call on these blogs. Bullshit. It's a way to cover your ass. Unless she showed receipts for those - did she? I don't remember ever seeing a receipt. I have every single receipt from every single product commercial OR personal use I have ever bought. Just for this reason.
And Miss I know everything - Carrie Stephens is selling at SBE.
Looking over that thread again to make sure there was no receipt posted - is it a coincidence that Carrie's name was brought up, and MzP just happened to have one of Carrie's stolen items in her kits before? Probably. Who knows?
They CLAIM they removed pimptress because her store was closed yet Carrie Stephens store is closed and she's still there. There are a number of designers with no stores who STILL have access to the DCR. Tell me that isnt a witch hunt?
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Carrie Stephens sells at SBE.
I think the 'witchhunt' against the DCR is a bunch of baloney. Designers have a right to discuss piracy, sorry, unless you think we should stand meekly by while we get ripped off.
I remember when Naughty Pimptress came to light - it was months ago. Typical pirate. Nasty and unresponsive. People like that are a dime a dozen as are people who buy and sell ripped off items on ebay and act like they don't know better. If you insist on defending them fine but deep down methinks they know exactly what they are doing.
12:39 It was a year ago, maybe even over a year ago, not months and you couldnt be anymore full of shit. She answered all the questions that were thrown at her, she TOOK the lashing that all you bitter witches threw at her for making A MISTAKE. She showed the receipts.
You people just cant let it go.
You dont like her because of her name "Naughty Pimptress", you dont like her because she favors the rock n roll style. You dont like her because she has many friends in the tagging community which all you uppity up designers hate. You people are ridiculous. You're venomous. You're not happy until you've beaten someone down into the ground with your lies. But you CANT beat her down, she keeps coming right back up because she has a larger following than most of you jealous toads.
How you can harbor so much hate for a person who made a simple mistake by purchasing something on ebay is BEYOND me.
You're all hypocrites and I hope more of your bullshit is exposed.
11:06 Maybe the problem isnt with US. Ever thought of that? If SO many people are complaining about the business practices of designers, dont you think there's something TO that?
Oh wait, noooooooooo, couldnt be. You're "designers" and therefore are always right.
8:17 Why the fuck would ANYONE POST a receipt at the DCR? So THAT information could be spread across the internet?? I dont think so.
Dumbass.
I will comment one time, and one time only, as I could give 2 shakes as to what any of YOU people think of me.
I DID purchase these items on eBay, the ones I am being accused of "Re-Selling as my Own Work". This was now OVER a year ago.
I had been designing about 1 MONTH prior to purchasing these items on ebay and knew absolutely NOTHING about commercial use items, let alone digital scrapbook designing. I knew that some of the items were similar to things I had purchased from other designers. HOWEVER, I had no reason not to assume that these designers did not purchase the same thing.
WHEN this happened OVER a YEAR ago, I SHOWED proof, I posted the SELLERS eBay ID and ITEM NUMBER of the auction I purchased these from AT MY BLOG, along with emailing the information to the designers in private.
HOWEVER, by the time I posted everything, the auction AND the seller were REMOVED from eBay. And a statement as to why.
NOT since this accured, Have I been accused of selling other designer's work. PERIOD.
I had a few designers throw temper tantrums because I made a Snaggable Signature tag using some of their scrap designs, BUT I WAS NOT OFFERING IT FOR FREE, IT WAS NOT AVAILABLE AS SEPERATE ITEMS OR OFFERED IN ANY WAY AS A DIGITAL SCRAP PRODUCT, it was a TAG. Something, at that time only 10% of designers understood what that was. So they kicked and screamed and I removed them. I mean, we have all heard how terrible taggers are, and how much scrap designers HATE them. (Even though we make up a good percentage of their sales).
There was a very small clique of "designers" who failed to let this go. They FOLLOWED me for MONTHS after this happened. I RENAMED my blog as I grew as a designer, even found a new home at VOX because blogger was having technical issues with uploading images. I LEFT MY NEW VOX LINK ON MY OLD BLOGGER SITE. So if I was "removed" or "Hiding", I don't think, for one, that I would have had access to blogger if they closed my account. NOR would I have left a NEW LINK to my VOX blog IF I WAS TRYING TO HIDE. But since the "designers" posted this INSIDE DST, it was considered "Correct Information".
So I ignored all their BS. And continued on.
I grew as a designer and started to sell at a store online. AS SOON AS THE STORE OPENED, they Re-Hashed all this OLD NEWS. NOTHING NEW HAD COME UP. I was NEVER accussed of anything NEW. It was the SAME OLE CRAP that was done and over with for 10 MONTHS!!!!
They posted my personal information like my PRIVATE photobucket links with pictures of FAMILY and video's of MY KIDS.
They TRACKED me down in MySpace.
They went as far as saying that I should DIE..... DIE??? Because I design better scrap designs then they do??? I will say that the trolls from DST were none other then Michelle Powel and Joanne Whatever. Designer's I never knew until they went writing BS in the DST. Most Designers were gracious enough to note that I had not had a problem since this ONE episode 10 MONTHS AGO.
However this never stopped those 2 little twirps from typing rude and hateful comments on the blogs. And yes I know FOR A FACT it was them because they posted the same comments on the smack blogs as they did on DST...which was pretty stupid on their part.
So with all the drama, I decided that digital scrapbook designing as a profession would never work for me not because I was not good at it, but rather these ladies saw to it that I had a bad name. Because they did not like what I stand for.
So I ask them....What DO I stand for??? Do you KNOW me? Absolutely NOT.
Now...On to the PayPal issue.
I was MOVING from OHIO to MICHIGAN at the time this happened. (Less then 400+ miles whatever the IP said I was at).
I had a friend whom I entrusted my paypal info to because they had sent me money before, and they had used the account as well. I ONLY used this account to have money DEPOSITED in the account. It only had a checking account linked to it, as I never used it to shop with. I have CC's for that. And a private paypal account to make purchases. Now the "Carla Bassett" is my MOTHERS name, as I originaly set it up for her to use to purchase a new computer on eBay several months earlier. And she used it to get verified. (NONE OF THIS, BY THE WAY IS ANYONE'S BUSINESS)
This person decided, since I was not online, nor near a computer to check things, that it would be a great time to do some "shopping".
They used my account and went to town. When I came back and found all these emails and receipts, I was floored. I knew I hadn't shopped anywhere. So I had to close the PayPal account and turn her in. Which took WEEKS.
So, I was in fact a victim. And I explained ALL of this, with less detail, because it was during the earlier part of the investigation with PayPal, in DST. Mind you, I had still remained a MEMBER of the DST designer "club" after the store closed, and no one removed me.
It was not until I stood up to their BS that they removed me.
They claimed they did not accuse me of any wrong doing. But that was a lie. They ASSUMED that I STOLE someone ELSE'S PayPal account, not the other way around. And why? Because the BS Joanne and the other zombies at DST had posted about me over something that happened SO LONG AGO.
Now....I HAVE NEVER BEEN ACCUSED OF SHARING ANYTHING I HAVE EVER PURCHASED. And I purchase quite alot. I know now not to use my name when purchasing and in fact use a business account.
So stick up for DST. That's ok.
Write off the wrong-doing's that have been done to me because of the lies that have been spoken about me, that's ok. Because I no longer care.
However, the shit that is spoken at DST is NOT always TRUE. Nor do they CHECK their FACTS before posting people's PERSONAL information.
Your personal information is in fact PROTECTED by LAW and they have NO RIGHTS whatsoever to post it ANYWHERE. And if I felt I had a chance in hell, I would sue the hags that posted my information, as I saved everything. As I always do. Like my receipts. (Which were shared and posted at the other smack blog the very last time I was attacked).
Is it right that they posted my information? Nope. In fact, it was illegal.
Is it right that they feel they can say any damn thing they want because they think they are better and above everyone else? Nope. And slander is in fact against the law, considering NOTHING they have posted was TRUE or CAN BE PROVEN, because it is all an opinion.
Is it right that Shannon ALLOWS this type of ugliness to continue in the DST? No...and I hope one day it bites her in the ass.
The digital community is a joke. It is not "equal oppurtunity" by any means.
Designers DO NOT follow their own rules. They think that because they laid a few dollars to make a website, they control their universe and anyone who steps in it is automatically forced to follow THEIR rules, even though they change from person to person.
Designers NEED to have a clause if they are going to out a "pirate". they need to have actual FACTS to out a pirate, and they need to do it in a private forum, and one that is not so public as the one at DST.
As for me, continue on with old news. Nothing of this matters to me. I have my proof. I have stood by the same story for over a year now. It has not ONCE changed. I know it to be true, the designers who were INVOLVED know it to be true, I removed the items in question and never once sold them.
I emailed the sellers information.
And someone had to do something about it because the seller was caught and removed.
So slander away....that is what you anonymous people do best.
It's like going to a zoo....
A bunch of undeveloped apes throwing shit back and forth at each other.
ohhhhhhhhh you mean Man Faced Swamp Bitch Joanna Cinnamon?
Yeah, she's HORRID.
I guess designers can't win for losing around here. But, that's the way most of you want it. Why do you even bother with digital scrapping with our products if you have such hate and animosity for most of the designers out there.
Maybe you should find a new hobby where you don't hate the people behind the scenes making what you need to use. or, if you want to digital scrap, make your own stuff for your own use. Might be less stressful. All of that hate inside of you can't be good for you.
July 8, 2008 11:06 PM
You're absolutely right. We should all quit scrapping or quit buying and make our own stuff. We (the evil, horrible customers)would all have a few more bucks in our pockets, and you (whiny, childish designers) would be out of business. Sounds like a win-win.
You're absolutely right. We should all quit scrapping or quit buying and make our own stuff. We (the evil, horrible customers)would all have a few more bucks in our pockets, and you (whiny, childish designers) would be out of business. Sounds like a win-win.
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Hey go for it. I think you will find that designing something really nice is not as easy as you think.
Re: the DCR and the Naughty Pimptress thing - I recall seing something about her months ago but had no idea there was some sort of witchhunt going on. Designers are mostly a cottage industry and not all use the best discretion or professionalism in their dealings. There can be an overzealous desire to go after pirates, and in doing so I think it's important to not overstep ones bounds and it's also important to have verifiable proof.
That said, I don't find the DCR to be a snakepit of evil. Are there things that go on that don't seem 'fair' to all? Probably but this is a private business and Shannon reserves the right to use her best judgement in making decisions. It's really sad that designers are abusing the DCR by posting screenshots of customer information all over gossip blogs in an attempt to shame/criticize those who originally posted them. If they cared one whit about privacy they would at least black out the 'personal information' on those screenshots but they don't which leads me to believe that their motives have nothing to do with nobly defending the right to customer privacy. In fact, it sounds like several individuals have some sort of bitter vendetta against DST/DCR and they are simply using these people to fuel their venemous campaign.
yeah RIGHT it's always the "poor designers" getting attacked.
gimme a break
If what has been put on display is Shannon's "best judgement", the girl needs to hang it up already.
Lord knows what else is going on that HASNT been put on blast.
Re: the DCR and the Naughty Pimptress thing - I recall seing something about her months ago but had no idea there was some sort of witchhunt going on. Designers are mostly a cottage industry and not all use the best discretion or professionalism in their dealings. There can be an overzealous desire to go after pirates, and in doing so I think it's important to not overstep ones bounds and it's also important to have verifiable proof.
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That is a great point.
Where I can understand wanting to defend ones designs from people who are sharing their work with the masses. And when you have proof, AND CAN SHOW PROOF, then I understand wanting to stop them. Because you have the proof to back up your claims.
With that said, this whole thing mzpimptress, is another story,
Now I only have the facts that have been posted on her blog, what was posted in the DST, and what has been said in the smack blogs.
And never, not once, was proof posted. Just the same designers posting they knew what happen from way back when, and that was it. And when proof was requested, nothing was served. And they went way to far in the insults on her.
They were very unprofessional.
Very much so.
Everyone is so quick to judge, with little to no proof. And that is not right. If there is proof, show it. But if you are going talk out your back side, and not prove your claims, then you look very bad. And since it all originated from the DST, it really makes them look bad. Yes, maybe not all designer took part in this little hang-man game, but just like running a store, only bad experiences are show cased.
And Shannon is allowing this, because after all, it's ok, it "professional".
Since when was witch hunting professional?
And never, not once, was proof posted. Just the same designers posting they knew what happen from way back when, and that was it. And when proof was requested, nothing was served. And they went way to far in the insults on her.
They were very unprofessional.
Very much so.
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I hardly ever read stuff on the pirate forum - that's why it was put in place, so it wouldn't get mixed up in the general DCR forum.
Hey it seems like some people really hate Shannon/DST/Designers - why not start your own forum? DST was started because people were sick of 2 Peas.
But be forwarned, you won't be able to please everyone and you may find yourself with your own little band of haters who feel you can do nothing right. That's why a lot of these smack blogs like the Digigoss end up closing - they get sick of all the negativity and whining about the same thing ad nauseum.
I posted this last night on this blog, and I was blog surfing tonight and saw this same post on the Darkside blog. What is up with that? Someone can't think of their own material so they have to cut and paste from one blog to another. I hate when the same shit gets posted to three different blogs. It is more stupid if someone is just cutting and pasting posts from one blog to another. That is really a waste of time.
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I would go out on a limb and make the crazy assumption that if a designer is wasting time in the DCR, they are also reading these blogs. Oh and any designer that continuously stumbles on pirated kit links = pirate.
July 8, 2008 6:08 PM
Yeah, I totally agree since the topic everyone is discussing HERE is one that ORIGINATED on the darkside blog.
Cant have it both ways.
Say all you want about The Darkside blog, but you cant deny that THEIR topics are the HOT topics and they come with cold hard facts.
Period.
Christ, all the pimping of the darkside blog is just as bad or worse than the DST type pimping.
The darkside is fast becoming the GABS of the blogging scene. Enough already. One gabs is bad enough.
Like it or not the darkside has gone above and beyond the duties of smack blogs.
And really, i do not consider them a smack blog. Most smack blogs just blabber away about things with little to no proof. Yapping about someones LO's. Kids, Blog Burbs, etc. But the darkSide actually post information the majority of us would never know about. And the one who would know about it are coming to the blog and complaining. Not because it is untrue, or not factual, but because they were upset that their little hiding space was exposed.
And what I found to be very humorous was that All of these stores & designers went on about how they would never sell or post their customer's information, yet they were slapped in the face when the actual screen shots proved otherwise.
No wonder the digital community is up in arms right now. Say whatever you'd like, these Ladies have put a ripple in the once calm but dark waters in the community.
Personally I think the darkside blog is really a bunch of crap. They haven't posted or revealed anything so amazing or revolutionary in my opinion.
The pimping is getting to be a little much. If people want to go there they will, there is no need to come here and pimp for them.
Well, there was no need to discuss THEIR topics over here. Just because this blog doesn't have any of real interest.
And further more, in case you have been under a rock the las 18 hours, here is a newsflash for you.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=133828
Shannon half-assed apologized for "Not Knowing Shit" in regards to the DST/DCR having PERSONAL information posted.
And where was all of that news posted???? Yep...the darkside.
So Like Them Or Not, they delivered. And ACCOMPLISHED something. How many smack blogs can say that?
Unless you count ruining peoples good names JUST because someon doesn't like them.
OMG, when are you going to give it a rest? It has been revealed BEFORE on other blogs that personal information is shared in the DCR.
Shannon's apology was probaby due to the actual people who were wronged taking the issue up with Paypal. I applaud Mz.P for doing that, and I hope that Shannon and her designer buddies from the DCR that did the sharing get what's coming to them.
People at this blog can discuss whatever they want. You don't own any topics, darkside. The pimping is very obvious and over the top, no matter how many 'anonymous' posts you make pretending to be fans. People can and will post where they like it or feel comfortable. That's how it should be.
The blogs are not in competition. Why keep trying to turn it into one? That's exactly what's wrong in so much of digi!
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