Just giving you new space...and I like the comment above.
Actually, I went over to DST to find some smack worthy stuff, and I couldn't find anything. Pretty boring over there unless you are into arguing over health care reform.
So I don't want to kill the conversation started in the last thread...Why has DST lost its luster? Have people moved on to a new craft, have people moved to store forums, are people actually scrapping for themselves or have they all turned into designers?
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1717 Newer› Newest»I feel that friendships often seem more genuine between men. Solidarity between women is apparent when having pity parties with each other and commiserating about their relastionships and how men treat them, or when bemoaning the size of their thighs. But wait until one of the group of 'friends' loses weight, becomes prettier, gets more money, the big house, the expensive clothes or the hot man. The knives will be out. If you don't believe it, you've probably been watching too much Oprah.
i did a paper on this topic and yes men's relationships are more stable than womens. For one women tend to form dyadic relationships causing them to be more stable. Also women build relationships based on sharing personal information. Men on the other hand tend to group in triadic groups or more. They reveal personal information occasionally and they wait till thier friendships are more established. They build relationships based on favors. Such as exchanging video games or helping each other move. They are also more likely to confront one another during ddisagreements and women tend to confide in an outside source aka gossiping. Its the facts!
There ARE groups like this on Flickr. :) Check out "Let's Get Digital", "Digital Scrapbook Club" and "Digital Scrapbook" to name just 3.
There isn't a huge amount of praise being thrown around, but I give and receive the occasional nice comment, and I credit, but certainly not everybody does.
I don't watch Oprah. I guess things are different where I live, thank goodness. You are probably in the States, which explains your jaded view.
Actually I am not from the States, nor do I live there. Besides, underneath it all, I think women are pretty much the same the world over.
Bitchy, gossipy, jealous, back stabbing, vicious women probably tend to gravitate toward other women who have similar traits. I have lots of female friends and none of us act that way. I live in the US.
It was the Oprah reference that made me think you lived in the States, sorry.
I tend to agree with poster 11.08.
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so to that person who says a site like DST is too expensive to run without ads. do u think that shannon gets nothing from DST. I dont know why she would keep it up if she didnt. she obviously does not have it around so she can hang out and she is not providing the community with a great place either. its is a horrible place that has gone alomg way to kill the industry.
September 19, 2009 7:57 PM
Of course she's making money. She's running DST as a business venture. She should be making money. It's probably how she makes a living. Nothing wrong with that in my eyes. You can't really expect her to put the time, money and commitment into something that big without making a living from it. Would you spend that much time running a not for profit volunteer organization for the single purpose of providing a comfy online home for digital scrapbookers? I wouldn't.
I'm not trying to say that I think Shannon runs DST as well as it can possibly be run. I'm actually not a fan of DST. It's kind of the same old boring thing day after day. But I hardly think it's ruining the industry.
The industry is kind of what you make it. It's just a hobby. Since you are most likely at home scrapping by yourself, and choosing the sites you do and don't visit...just go to the ones you like and skip the others. KWIM?
I'm really not trying to be snarky. But if you don't enjoy the hobby anymore, maybe it's time to step away? Take a break from it?
I tend to agree with poster 11.08.
Ditto!
But ya'll know we come here to bitch and look how nice we are while being bitchy. HT should take notice.
Bi-atches
Let's get back to bitching about digi. Have you ever noticed when some stores literally have the same elements in kits? Awhile back I bought a set of elements with a rainbow in it. I remembered the rainbow from another designer at the same store but at least 2 years before. The new one looked very similar but of less quality. I had also noticed that paper patterns were repeating in several of the kits at the same store from different designers. I thought they might all have the same commercial pool they were pulling from. I was actually getting bored with the product so I stopped buying.
11:25- I think we have beaten that topic to death in this same post- read back a few pages. People are using the same CU items.
11.25, wouldn't have happened to be ScrapArtist, would it?
Does anyone think it would be nice to have a set of symbols that allowed scrappers to know their credentials? I would love to know if a designer has a degree and if not how many years she has been designing. At the same time I have seen a couple of designers just get started and do pretty damn good.
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No, It was actually WST. I hate to say. Loved them.
Oh, I saw the same thing at SA, that's why I asked.
Does anyone think it would be nice to have a set of symbols that allowed scrappers to know their credentials?
I think this is a bit irrelevant... plenty of designers do fantastic work from being self taught. As long as they have a freebie you can sample for quality.
It would be nice to see just how much of their own work they are producing, though.
Maybe this has been discussed, but what is the story with all of the Twilight layouts? Do people actually print these? I don't scrap anything I don't intend to print, but I can't imagine sticking a Twilight layout in my scrapbooks. I don't know why I would want to preserve memories of Twilight for my kids. Do people make them just for fun? Do they actually print them? Are they preserving a memory? I really don't get it.
It would be nice to see just how much of their own work they are producing, though.
That is a good idea. I still like the other. It could have several symbols designers can sport. That would help the customers be more informed. People could just use the symbols for information and still judge a designer based on the product/freebies. With so much crap going around I feel sorry for newbies.
As for the Twilight stuff. I dont know not my cup of tea but I do think alot of people are just caught up in scrapping and waste time making a bunch of layouts that wont matter later.
I am so bad with printing but I am thinking I will be the grandma playing slideshows for the kiddos on a big screen.
What is up with teh talk like a pirate day? I just dont know.
someone must have a new pirate kit they want to pimp, talk like a pirate day is a good excuse
Do people make them just for fun?
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Just for fun. I make LOs that aren't family related (not Twilight ones though, they are mostly altered art stuff or art journaling), they are just for fun. I find constantly scrapping family pics to be a complete bore. The photos and situations may be different but it's still seems the same.
Nope talk like a pirate day has been a thing for about 7 years and outside of digiscrapping.
http://www.talklikeapirate.com/piratehome.html
I can't stand the whole popularity thing and try to completely ignore any kind of sheep flocking mentality.
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Me too! I absolutely HATE the 'Who's your favorite scrapper' threads. I just don't understand the motivation for starting a thread blatantly puts certain scrappers above others. To me, that's the equivalent of schoolchildren starting a 'popularity' list. It makes a few feel good, but makes the large majority feel like outsiders. As grown women, I think we should be more sensitive.
Similarly, I hate the 'Who's your favorite Designer', or 'What designer would you most like to CT for?' type threads.
I NEVER post in any of those kind of threads because I don't want to leave anyone out or hurt anyone's feelings. I always wonder about the kind of person that starts these threads...just what are they trying to accomplish? Are they trying to generate self-praise? Are they trying to brown-nose certain scrappers? Are they trying to look like they are part of the 'in' crowd? Or what?
re: the same elements and paper patterns showing up in different designers' kits. I've noticed that at Sweet Shoppe, too.
not into the popularity thing either...cause i'm not popular..ha ha..never have been, but I like to believe I enjoy life and don't have to worry about who is above or below me!
I couldn't agree more about the "favorite ???" lists. I refuse to participate. I'll admit I read them to see if I made the cut, I never have. LOL
re: the same elements and paper patterns showing up in different designers' kits. I've noticed that at Sweet Shoppe, too.
unbelievable. and digi kits seem to be getting more expensive too. i hate weekly releases of new products. i think designers should make less product so they spend less time designing and give items more time to sell. i have seen some getting burned out and losing creativity.
I'm the original poster about the non-pimping gallery. The more I think about it the more I think it might work? Maybe? Anyway....I've got the idea planted in my head want and need to run it buy a couple hundred people ;)
I read all the comments about it on here so far and want to answer this one..she's got some excellent points***
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Who would pay the cost of the site? Who would spend all the time maintaining it? Where would the revenue come from to pay for all of that?
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Ok so I already own a domain and web space. I've been holding on to them for awhile now not really doing much with it. So as far as the $$ to get started? Well that's already been spent so to speak. Believe me my pockets are NOT deep! They're actually hardly even pockets ;) But I figure if I already have the web space? Why not?
Also I happened to find a WordPress theme that works like this... The person who wants to post would have to register and then would be allowed to post a photo and description. I as the admin., would have the ability to set a registered poster's "topic" to expire after a certain # of days. That person's photo would not disappear but go into a "archives" page...therefore it could be looked at again later. The person would not have a "gallery" like DST or MSA but would be able to be found by user name and probably the correct use of "tags".
I as the admin would have the power to either allow ratings, comments or no ratings, comments to the poster's photo. That gives me the power to make this a "no comment" gallery if I wanted or if the majority wanted. ALSO with this theme I have the ability to turn it into a paid membership site at any time if I need or want to.
There are some things that sort of worry me about this though. For one the advertising of it. I have no money to pay for advertising. That would have to be word of mouth or some nice scrappy bloggers that would advertise for it out of the kindness of their hearts! Also I'm BUSY..very BUSY I would need someone to help with the "spam" watch or policing of it if you will.
Anyway with rules posted, the ability to ban those that didn't play by the 1 main rule which would be NO pimping? Do you guys think this could/would be something people in the scrap world that are sick of the crap and the popularity contests would go for or do you think it would degenerate into what we are already seeing the majority of at places like DST? What if I put a paid option in for 1 just 1 designer per month? In other words they pay to have a layout posted that would be clearly marked as sponsored and would show on the home page for a certain length of time?
Sorry this is so long! I'm just wanting a little more feedback from real people that aren't afraid to tell me like it is! After I decide, IF I decide to do it, I'll gladly put my name to my post!
did u ever see the genuine praise blog? It was a failed attempt to get a praise game going where people actually left nice comments. There were even prizes and no one was very receptive. It seems many people are happy with the way things are. Its sad.
Why not Buddypress for Wordpress?
U know I am on two Cts and I only scrap with my CT products. I have a huge stash but I am scrapping litte these days. Thier products motivate me. But I do no stock photos, i dont make myself scrap meaningless pages. All of my pages are for me. But I would not be able to upload my pages to your new site. So I dont know. I would like to support it but dont know if i would be allowed.
I think a good way to do it would be no forum just pure gallery. I also think comments would be good. Maybe a rule can be 5 comments for every page uploaded with a max daily allowance of between 1 and 3. And no generic comments. 5 words or more.
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Oh definitely no forum. I wouldn't want that at all, too much room to turn into a advertising mecca.
Just pure gallery. I still don't know. Not sure if it would work or not. I wouldn't want to exclude anyone from it, even CT members.
I just don't want the blatant **BUY THIS** feeling I get from so many layouts anymore. It's like some CT members don't even care about what they're scrapping, only that they are promoting their designer's products? I understand promoting for the payment of the product but some of them act like they are being paid $$ for this stuff! OK I know some are going to take that wrong..product=$$ but it's not like it's a paycheck to support your family!
Maybe it's just me but even when I was on CTs I did my own layout first and foremost. Free product was nice BUT I scrapped first for myself. Plus I only CT'd for designers that I would WANT to use their stuff. KWIM?
I scrap almost exclusively with one designer's product, personally. I'm on her CT of course. If I was kicked off her team for some reason (the horror!) I would still be scrapping with her items, probably for life! I'm on her CT because I adore her things and was lucky enough to be invited.
Again, all layouts I do are definitely for me first. I would like to think that this is not what you would call pimping and that I would be welcome at this gallery even if every single layout I do is with one designer's product.
3.45 here, I just notice that I might have replied to the person who wants to make this blog/gallery who has the same ideas as me anyway. Gotta love this anon business.
I so love the idea of NO comments..if you want the kit name, go to DST or another big gallery and search the gallery on Layout title!
I love this, it would be pure inspiration! A place to go, to just look at layouts...wow, how fun would that be?
I have a big mouth, and I would post there! I will blog it when it gets up..and I think it would be fantastic!
Perhaps a blinkie made with
Nothin' but Scrap!
no forum, no comments
if it flies, than we know there are more than 8 people posting and reading here! ha ha
and this crosses all political, economical and race lines...
I have so ready to get behind it!!
just a thought...but throwing out ideas
instead of screen names, perhaps, numbers? like register #102 and then you can tell people if you want, but just the anonymous factor.
I think you would HAVE to allow kit names and designers in the credits. It's required by lots of designers. You could do the "no comments" though.
Why would you want to send them back to DST to search for the kit?
If this took off, you could have a couple of banner ads to help with expenses. (maybe non blinking ones ;)
The only new gallery I would bother with is one that was comment free. The comments would just turn it into a popularity contest or pimp fest, unless there were lots of people with unlimited time to police the place.
Which designers REQUIRE credits in galleries? At this stage in my scrapping, I will not post LOs where the designer is demanding me to advertise for them.
i think we would have to do credits. I would personally like comments but I guess none would be ok too. I will help. This would mean outing ourselves. And I am new here so I would be owning up to everything before me in a way. J/K.
I would not mind volunteering to moderate. I would not expect this to fly off the ground right away and I suspect participation would be low to begin with. We could have comment moderation on so nothing would go through without approval. At least for a little while till we build a group of nice ladies who want to play along for fun and not to leave generic comments. I am poster 2:46 so ya'll can make the connection.
Just kit names and designers.... no "new this week!" crap
Call me crazy...but why post layouts if no one can even comment on them...and it's totally anon? Um...that just seems dumb. I'm against pimping and I personally don't need feedback but these people who post on galleries want attention in some way or another. It just seems pointless.
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I'm kind of surprised to see so many people saying that they want another gallery with comments. *shrug* I guess I'm more different than I thought.
It just seems pointless.
September 20, 2009 4:31 PM
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When I visit galleries, I go to look for inspiration or new ideas. I don't go looking to make comments, or give people attention.
It would just be nice to have a place where the focus was exchanging ideas and inspiration, instead of pimping some designers' wares and where fakery and BS wasn't the norm.
Just kit names and designers.... no "new this week!" crap
September 20, 2009 4:29 PM
I agree, I hate that ***new this week*** or ***coming soon*** crap. Just kit and designer so I can go buy it if I want to.
I find the DST to Gallery to be totally UNINSPIRING..its the same crap...literally...a tiny picture with a whole bunch of kit. Am I the only one who scraps to showcase my PICTURES?
When I visit galleries, I go to look for inspiration or new ideas. I don't go looking to make comments, or give people attention.
It would just be nice to have a place where the focus was exchanging ideas and inspiration, instead of pimping some designers' wares and where fakery and BS wasn't the norm.
Yeah, I don't really get what you are saying here. You don't go to comment or read comments. You just want to look at the layouts for inspiration. So why do you care who did the layout or if they are someone on a creative team? That makes no sense to me. Just don't read that stuff or participate in the drama. Look at the pretty layouts and go. Not trying to be rude. Just not getting you.
I'm a bit of a feedback whore, but I sure ain't getting it at DST. LOL. Either my LOs suck or they just aren't pimped enough by me.
If I saw a layout that wowed me, I would like to be able to say something, but I would love a gallery where praise was just that... left when you feel a need... and sincere, and none of this you scratch mine I'll scratch yours. In fact, I could go for moderated, anon praise! :)
I like the idea of using the blog format instead of a gallery. I do agree that kit names and designer names (but not the store name or your CT) will probably have to be allowed in the descriptions because of the TOU requirements of most designers. But I don't think active links to kits, stores, etc. should be allowed in the description. That way if someone wants the product, they will have to hunt it out themselves. A little googling won't hurt anyone. :)
As to looking up the layout on DST, there are many of us who have never had, nor never will have, a gallery at DST, even though we visit there from time to time.
I do think you will get more visitors if comments are allowed. I personally get little RL feedback on my layouts, and it is nice to hear what others think from time to time. But I do not think you should allow any mention of stores, kits, designers, or CT positions in the comments. The comments should be on the design of the layout. (Example: I like the way you used the flowers around the photograph. NOT: I like the way you used Jane Doe's flowers.") Make the rules of posting and commenting say what things would mean an automatic deletion of the post or comment. Then you stick to the rules, no exceptions.
Perhaps there could also be some way to indicate if the poster of the LO would like constructive criticism. But again the comments should not include any reference to a particular product and its location.
As for monitoring the site, I would be willing to help. I am now permanently retired and have the time and finally something besides pokey dialup. If there were enough people willing to help, the monitoring of posts could be divided up so that it would not be a chore for anyone.
I never read nor participate in any "Praise" threads. I appreciate genuine praise but I really don't want "Nice layout" just so someone can get their praise count up. If you genuinely like a layout go ahead and so say but I really wish people would stop with the fake praise just to get brownie points. "Nice layout" or "nice pics" is not genuine. Those galleries that require you to praise other layouts when you upload one mean well but most of those people upload a layout and post "nice layout" on the 3 layouts posted right before theirs. Did they really like those 3 layouts or did they just take the easy way out?
Totally lost my last post. It was thoughtful too. SO here we go again the sloppy version.
I have been thinking about this and reading through the comments and I like this idea. Several of the points made have been good.
For one the idea of ANON moderated comments would be great. Its like commenting for nothing in return. They can be screend in case drama comes around and to keep them ANON.
The idea of no gallery is also excellent. This helps prevent people from trying to build up a CT portfolio and people who like the work can search the scrappers name.
I also think that rather than crediting each piece by kit name we should just say
designername:such&such.com
with no links or product names.
If someone wants to look they can just go to the store and look at the designers work.
i think that is all for now.
I know the idea of having a new gallery has been brought up before on this blog. I'm not sure it's worth the effort or expense for one individual & I sure don't see people paying a subscription so they upload layouts.
Can you make groups on Flickr? Like everyone uploads layouts to the same group but then you would still have your own personal Flickr gallery?
I haven't uploaded layouts anywhere in over a year. You know what's funny? Last year I finally decided to try out as a CT & got accepted. I tried it for a few months and decided that it wasn't for me. I uploaded to the various sites including DST. The designer would always comment on layouts uploaded to the site where she sold but never commented on layouts uploaded to DST.
I'm not making excuses for people, but there are a lot of people that do not speak english or do not speak it well so they put little two words comments. Then there are some people that are just lazy.
Can I ask is this a naked child in the GSO or is that type of portrait acceptable? In my opinion no. I would never post a picture of my child naked in any position online. Even seemingly naked. Pervs get off on children being children and a photo can entertain a mind like that.
Is it just me who find that wrong?
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http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?p=2129192#post2129192
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=211172&page=5
well here is another. This one shows crack. What is up with that?
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It's just you. You probably object to girls in swimwear too. Oh no, a perv is getting off. Who cares? As long as they stay behind the screen. Sheesh.
I find the DST to Gallery to be totally UNINSPIRING..its the same crap...literally...a tiny picture with a whole bunch of kit. Am I the only one who scraps to showcase my PICTURES?
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No you are not the only one. I can imagine what these kids will be thinking when they grow up and see all these tiny photos and fantasy layouts, "yeah, I can't remember much of my childhood except that mom was forever sticking a camera in my face so she could create some exploitative layout to sell some stupid digital kits."
Why are you so bitter about fantasy pages? Some people do them for fun. Scrapbooking is a hobby right? You can do it anyway you want. Whatever makes you enjoy it.
I wasn't actually aware that there were guidelines on how to scrap a page properly. I was pretty sure that the fun of it was in being creative.
Somehow I doubt that there are thousands of forlorn toddlers out there with nothing in their futures but a lifetime of heroin addiction and contemplating suicide just because their moms took a lot of photos of them and...*gasp* extracted them and placed them (in way too small proportions) in a fantasy scrapped scene. @@
Thanks for the laugh though.
No you are not the only one. I can imagine what these kids will be thinking when they grow up and see all these tiny photos and fantasy layouts, "yeah, I can't remember much of my childhood except that mom was forever sticking a camera in my face so she could create some exploitative layout to sell some stupid digital kits."
September 20, 2009 11:08 PM
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Smacks of some childhood issue you may have and haven't yet resolved. Sheesh.
Not sure about the naked kids, but I hate seeing wings on people who aren't dead yet. Fantasy or not, feather or any wings reminds me of a dead person.
On the small photos LOs. 20 years from now people will be howling, just like we used to howl about the bobby socks and crew socks style, or my kids laugh at the big 80s shoulder pads. Or disco, or the anything that was hugely popular.
It's a style and as such, it will be out of style before you know it. I already have noticed most of those gals are going with slightly larger photos (in the last two weeks I noticed it on CT blogs for French and other European designers. I would say the photo size is about 1/3 large than it was earlier this summer.)
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Like rapper gear. I think those falling down pants are much funnier than any other fashion styles so far.
No making some people here happy
All the fantasy LOs are crap
All the LOs with tiny pictures are crap
All the LOs with a ton of elements are crap
All the LOs with no journaling are crap
All the LOs with huge photos and nothing else are crap
So, really, what are you saying, is anyone who doesn't scrap my way is crap. Get the heck over yourselves.
Welcome to middle age 4.54!
Picture this: you see a young guy walking down the street with many rings through every conceivable part of his body, three different colours of hair, parts shaved, parts long, clothes that are so heavily painted they would probably stand up by themselves and wearing makeup inspired by Kiss in their 'low rent' period.
You know you're middle aged when you don't think 'wow, cool' but rather 'WTF do you think you look like?'
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Maybe, but I thought parachute pants were silly and I lived the 80s. I think some fashion is just stupid and I always have. I never did cool and I never did fashion, I just did me. Today I'd be totally nerd/emo/goth, which is a weird mix, but there it is.
okay if we are witchin' on things that we don't like...
how about 3 exactly the same picture on a layout?
It bugs me...one is a bit littlier, and then one is tiny, tiny...like the pic is an element? personally, I don't get it...but my pages probably suck to someone else!
Do you really think that pervs like how you described are just going to stay behind the screen? You are totally naive.
WTH are you talking about? I must have missed a post somewhere. Care to elaborate or quote your referenced post?
Either way. If someone stole a picture of my child in which he was practically naked, photoshopped it so he was naked and then circulated it online I would certainly have a problem with that. Even if he stayed behind his computer. What kind of parent is ok with that.
Fantasy layout or not its wrong. I dont have a problem with fantasy art but call it that and dont pretend to be capturing your memories.
Nevermind, I know what post you were talking about.
Somehow I doubt that there are thousands of forlorn toddlers out there with nothing in their futures but a lifetime of heroin addiction and contemplating suicide just because their moms took a lot of photos of them and...*gasp* extracted them and placed them (in way too small proportions) in a fantasy scrapped scene. @@
these kids might not mind the pics but i bet they miss thier moms who are online all day pimping them out.
when i was a kid, my mom didn't have scrapbooking to focus on, instead she cleaned all the time. our house was always sparkling, but she spent very little time with us. some parents need interests other than the kids in order to stay sane, and most kids get through it just fine (at least I did).
I also think that rather than crediting each piece by kit name we should just say
designername:such&such.com
with no links or product names.
If someone wants to look they can just go to the store and look at the designers work.
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that wouldn't work for me b/c I don;t keep track of the stores where designers sell , just kit name and designer name
these kids might not mind the pics but i bet they miss thier moms who are online all day pimping them out.
OMG that is such a tired and lame argument. Seriously. You don't even know if every poster has kids or where they are at any given time. People work, kids sleep, kids go to school, lots of scenarios.
limequilla said...
Not sure about the naked kids, but I hate seeing wings on people who aren't dead yet.
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Weird! So, if I make a LO of my dead grandpa and put some wings on him, it would be ok? Creepy
LMBO!!!
Okay, I know that's not funny but when I first read that I almost spit coffee out my nose.
September 21, 2009 8:37 AM
Because people don't scrap the same way you do, that means they aren't preserving their memories? Get over yourself. Some of my layouts may be extracted, but I'll remember the emotion I felt behind the page because I scrap the feeling I had when I took the picture.
I'm sure your preserved memories are so much more fabulous. Plop a picture on the page, put a few elements around it. You tell a much better story with that than anyone else with their pages.
12:17 Thanks for the laugh. lol
But seriously, of course that would be ok. As long as you didn't extract your grandfather from the photo, and you keep the image to the required large size. Can someone provide us with the exact photo sizing requirements?
Also make sure you have the correct number of elements on your page and a proper amount of journaling. And please don't cluster it or leave any white space. EW, that looks way too artsy. That's not scrapping!
Oh, and I'm required to inform you, if you are on a CT, that will automatically make your layout a huge piece of crap. Sorry.
BTW, where is your kid? Out playing in the road? You should get out there and start snapping way to many photos of him. Quick, he may have already started emotionally healing from all the neglect while you were online pimping him out.
Because people don't scrap the same way you do, that means they aren't preserving their memories? Get over yourself. Some of my layouts may be extracted, but I'll remember the emotion I felt behind the page because I scrap the feeling I had when I took the picture.
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How will your family know what you felt 100 years from now? Not that there's anything wrong with fantasy pages because they are beautiful. Just not my style is all. shrug
But seriously, of course that would be ok. As long as you didn't extract your grandfather from the photo, and you keep the image to the required large size. Can someone provide us with the exact photo sizing requirements?
Also make sure you have the correct number of elements on your page and a proper amount of journaling. And please don't cluster it or leave any white space. EW, that looks way too artsy. That's not scrapping!
Oh, and I'm required to inform you, if you are on a CT, that will automatically make your layout a huge piece of crap. Sorry.
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ROFL! Exactly :)
this blog is so dang boring. same old tired arguments
Where as you yourself are super exciting and bringing all sorts of new things to the table.
Who are the hot scrappers out there right now? Whose work do you admire? Just curious. Links are good too.
Who are the hot scrappers out there right now? Whose work do you admire? Just curious. Links are good too.
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sheesh. do this at DST where ppl like those kinds of threads. ppl here have said how sick they are of the "favorites" threads and the pimping
Where as you yourself are super exciting and bringing all sorts of new things to the table.
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how in the world can you know what I brought to the table on an anon blog????
Presumably fuck all, else you'd have just told us.
how in the world can you know what I brought to the table on an anon blog????
How do I know? Well Einstein, let me introduce you to the shift key. If you practice lots and lots, the two of you can make beautiful capital letters together.
Also, I was referring to the fact that in that one particular post, you are bitching about how boring it is here...but then not giving us something new to discuss. I'm sure in the past you've made thousands of insightful and meaningful comments. But in that little post...not so much.
Who are the hot scrappers
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I'm a hot scrapper. Then when the hot flashes go away, I'm a cold scrapper.
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Who are the hot scrappers
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I'm a hot scrapper. Then when the hot flashes go away, I'm a cold scrapper.
September 21, 2009 4:22 PM
ROTFLOL! me too...damn 40's!
Try and start a new discussion and you shoot it down anyway. So what's the point? Just because you don't want to discuss, doesn't mean others don't. And with the anonymous blog, others are more likely to actually voice their opinions, unlike DST.
something that kinda annoyed me today (yeah, I know - I'm petty) but I was trying to use up the last of my coupons from the coupon book that I bought at SBG and kind of irked me that I went to one designers store that offered a coupon and she's no longer there(Doris Castle). I mean, we had to buy this coupon book and now I can't use one I was planning on. They're supposed to be good until Sept 30th, you'd think if she was planning on leaving the store there would have been some kind of notice to the customers so that they could use up their coupon. Not great service in this instance.
I have lost my desire to shop digi style. I am so over the pimping of the CT teams. Whether it is designers answering every iso with one of their products that is "close" to the ISO. Or someone else promoting their product in every post. To me DST is pretty much dead. Their monthly kits are on the lean side and really dont speak to me. Their birthday coupons are kinda lame.
I use to hang out at DST to find tricks of the trade...extraction, shadowing...tricks on how to use my program better.
I use to look at the gallery for ideas on scrapping.
Now, I hang out at the store where I buy the most of my products. I havent learned anything new lately.
Do you have any suggestions to make me look at digital scrapping in a new fun way? otherwise I have to clean house...............
Someone should start calling them out on posting items that are "close." Red faces all around.
Either way. If someone stole a picture of my child in which he was practically naked, photoshopped it so he was naked and then circulated it online I would certainly have a problem with that. Even if he stayed behind his computer. What kind of parent is ok with that.
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Yeah, right, they really do that. You have no idea what you are talking about.
these kids might not mind the pics but i bet they miss thier moms who are online all day pimping them out.
September 21, 2009 9:02 AM
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Some kids are old enough to go to shcool and most kids sleep at night. I'm so very sorry that your's are awake 24/7 and are either home schooled or not old enough for schooling.
give a me break!
How will your family know what you felt 100 years from now?
September 21, 2009 12:56 PM
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Oh please, making one or two fantasy pages doesn't discount the pages that do have journaling but you anti fantasy pagers are so narrow minded; it's incredible. How do you know that there isn't journaling on the back of the page? You don't, you just assumed it. Besides, not all of us are in it for the preservation of memories for future generations, some of just like to make the pages for the here and now.
Who are the hot scrappers out there right now? Whose work do you admire? Just curious. Links are good too.
September 21, 2009 3:37 PM
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The hot scrappers are the ones living in hot climates.
I admire my own work.
Links, go to the golf course, plenty of links there.
Try and start a new discussion and you shoot it down anyway. So what's the point? J
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Not true. There have been plenty of new discussions around here that were not shot down.
Do you have any suggestions to make me look at digital scrapping in a new fun way? otherwise I have to clean house...............
September 21, 2009 7:35 PM
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Try photoshop tut sites. There's plenty out there and a ton of ideas you can use for digi scrapping. I don't really know what you want from digi scrapping so I can't give you specifics.
Someone should start calling them out on posting items that are "close." Red faces all around.
September 21, 2009 7:50 PM
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The ones who post links to their own product that isn't what the OP asked about. Any excuse to pimip their own stuff! That's what she meant.
How will your family know what you felt 100 years from now?
September 21, 2009 12:56 PM
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Oh please, making one or two fantasy pages doesn't discount the pages that do have journaling but you anti fantasy pagers are so narrow minded; it's incredible. How do you know that there isn't journaling on the back of the page? You don't, you just assumed it. Besides, not all of us are in it for the preservation of memories for future generations, some of just like to make the pages for the here and now.
September 21, 2009 7:58 PM
Point taken, and yes you're right.
I was trying to say (in my horrible way) that I've tried fantasy and it's not for me. I do think they pages are wonderful.
Let's agree to disagree or something because I lost my train of thought from yesterday and in the big scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
How do I know? Well Einstein, let me introduce you to the shift key. If you practice lots and lots, the two of you can make beautiful capital letters together.
Also, I was referring to the fact that in that one particular post, you are bitching about how boring it is here...but then not giving us something new to discuss. I'm sure in the past you've made thousands of insightful and meaningful comments. But in that little post...not so much.
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that was fun, I knew I could get a rise out of someone. gotcha
When did Scrapsmack disapper? It looks like there was drama...and I missed it. lol
http://www.scrapsmack.blogspot.com/
I miss Scrapsmack. It's been a few weeks at least that it's been gone. The was a big brouhaha about Tim Holz copying some bird things and calling them his own creation (even offering a class on them) but the posts from readers went all gay bashing and then the whole thing closed
I miss the old Scrap Smack, not the one that closed down, which was scary and stupid. All that glue sniffing must have effected some of their brains.
...Gotta watch out for the paste eaters
You can find the new ScrapSmack blog at:
http://lipsmackingscrap.blogspot.com
It's been a little quiet though, not sure how many people know the new address....
There is nothing easy about taking the time to comment on three other people's LOs. And "nice layout" is as *genuine* as the vast majority of other comments I've seen left on LOs.
Clearly, you've never been caught between one of those long trains of Cheerleader mentality CTers, who all uploaded their LOs at DST at the same time so that they can only comment on each other's work. IS that really any more "genuine"? A bunch of grown women who refuse to take the time to comment on a gallery neighbor's LO. No better at all, IMO.
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"Nice layout" or "nice pics" is not genuine. Those galleries that require you to praise other layouts when you upload one mean well but most of those people upload a layout and post "nice layout" on the 3 layouts posted right before theirs. Did they really like those 3 layouts or did they just take the easy way out?
September 20, 2009 8:27 PM
There is nothing easy about taking the time to comment on three other people's LOs. And "nice layout" is as *genuine* as the vast majority of other comments I've seen left on LOs.
Clearly, you've never been caught between one of those long trains of Cheerleader mentality CTers, who all uploaded their LOs at DST at the same time so that they can only comment on each other's work. IS that really any more "genuine"? A bunch of grown women who refuse to take the time to comment on a gallery neighbor's LO. No better at all, IMO.
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"Nice layout" or "nice pics" is not genuine. Those galleries that require you to praise other layouts when you upload one mean well but most of those people upload a layout and post "nice layout" on the 3 layouts posted right before theirs. Did they really like those 3 layouts or did they just take the easy way out?
I agree nice layout is not really genuine . If that is all you have time for then dont take the time. I would much rather prefer nothing. I only play praise games now if I really feel like I want to take the time.
There is only one place where I have been able to get a good praise thing going on and it is mainly a paper site. I can upload there play no games and come back to at least 7 good comments. I love it. So I return praise on my next layout upload. They have tons of ways to get a layout involved in praise but I like that method.
But back to the matter at hand. Nice Layout or Great Page are terrible compliments.
How long do I give a designer to answer a message I sent them??? I tried to contact a designer about a kit I want to buy but cannot locate and I have heard NOTHING! WTH you cannot even take 5 secs to say I no longer offer it...Or here is the link to the kit..thanks!
Sheesh! Don't think I will be buying from this "big name" anymore
Oh and I do not think the excuse could be made that maybe she has not got it yet....she was active on the site today - I sent the message 5 days ago
I've had the same issue with more than 1 "big name" designer when I've tried to buy a kit that they couldn't be bothered to upload into their new store. Maybe all the store hopping was just too much for them? *poor things*
OTOH, more than 1 not-so big name designers have been kind enough to not only answer my question, but 1 or 2 even gave me the kit I asked about. Now that's a true RAK, and it's those designers I appreciate.
I'm all but done with just about every "big name" out there.
You should send another and if she still does not respond I would make a public thread asking about her. Something like does anyone know how I can get a hold of blank. I have emailed twice and no reply. I really want blank kit. Surely she will respond then.
But back to the matter at hand. Nice Layout or Great Page are terrible compliments.
September 23, 2009 4:10 PM
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Why? Really, I want to know why. I know someone who only praises what she genuinely likes, but her comments are all one or two words because English is not her first language. I appreciate every comment I get, I don't care if it's one word or a whole damn essay. Someone has taken the time out to look at my work and then comment on it. It's probably more than some of you have done. Some of you really need to take a good, long look at yourselves.
Oh and I do not think the excuse could be made that maybe she has not got it yet....she was active on the site today - I sent the message 5 days ago
September 23, 2009 5:13 PM
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ever hear of a spam folder or junk mail filter? Sheesh. I've had emails go astray. Like another poster said, try emailing her again or even PMing her at the site she was active at. Good chance she'll get it then.
ever hear of a spam folder or junk mail filter? Sheesh. I've had emails go astray. Like another poster said, try emailing her again or even PMing her at the site she was active at. Good chance she'll get it then.
September 23, 2009 8:12 PM
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I'm with you on this one. I have a terrible mail server and unfortunately, I can't change because I've paid for a whole year and my email adress is in all my TOUs. Anyway, good emails go through the junk folders all the times. If you tiltle your email "hi" or "need help", it doesn't go through (spammers use that kind or title all the time).
Why? Really, I want to know why. I know someone who only praises what she genuinely likes, but her comments are all one or two words because English is not her first language. I appreciate every comment I get, I don't care if it's one word or a whole damn essay. Someone has taken the time out to look at my work and then comment on it. It's probably more than some of you have done. Some of you really need to take a good, long look at yourselves.
September 23, 2009 8:10 PM
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I'm not referring to those with limited English. It's the ones who upload a layout and have to post comments on 3 other layouts. It's oh so obvious that they choose the 3 layouts posted right before theirs. Typing "nice layout" on three layouts gets them over their obligation. Would they have commented on those 3 layouts if they didn't "have" to post? I don't think so! If someone can't take an extra minute or two to find 3 layouts they genuinely like then they can keep their "nice layout". I might only make 10 comments a day but I say something nice about the photos or the way the page is arranged or how well an extraction has been done etc. I feel better doing that than posting "nice layout" on 30 layouts.
I'm sure most poeple think getting a "nice layout" comment on their layouts is disapointing. It sure makes one feel good about their layout when someone actually points out something on it that they like or that caught their eye.
Oh, and did they really look at your layout or did they just click on any layout and type "nice layout" because they had to and not because they wanted to??
Oh, and did they really look at your layout or did they just click on any layout and type "nice layout" because they had to and not because they wanted to??
September 23, 2009 10:55 PM
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Is this just being hyper critical? Besides, we have done this topic to death.
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to post? I've noticed that so many galleries seem to get very little views.
Is this just being hyper critical?
Yes.
People copy and paste "nice layout" and spam the gallery... That's what they do.
Nice comment!
Nice comment!
Nice comment!
I'm juvenile, but I am LOL at the Nice comment spam just now.
Julie aka Greenpalm always left the best comments on my layouts. You could tell that she really looked at them closely and gave a shit.
All hail Julie! :)
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to post? I've noticed that so many galleries seem to get very little views.
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Because there are more posters than viewers. I don't visit galleries flooded with promotional layouts from everywhere and currently post only to places where my favorite designers sell and the galleries are limited to their products only (oscraps, SBG and occassionally SBE). My layouts,even the 1+ year old ones, get new views on a regular basis. There are just a few comments, but I don't care. My only motivation is to support designers by showing their products used by just a satisfied customer (as opposite to a CT member or a die hard fangirl).
After reading on this blog about SBB going downhill I went there to check the site out. My biggest surprise was that almost every layout in my abandoned gallery ( no uploads since last october) got 100+ new views. Wow! People actually do gallery search for product or designers name and possibly follow the store links. With all the designers gone most of my links will lead to nowhere though.
Posting at a purely pimping place like DST doesn't make sense as I see that no one has ever visited my gallery since I quit CTing last december and left the site alltogether.
Oh and I do not think the excuse could be made that maybe she has not got it yet....she was active on the site today - I sent the message 5 days ago
September 23, 2009 5:13 PM
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ever hear of a spam folder or junk mail filter? Sheesh. I've had emails go astray. Like another poster said, try emailing her again or even PMing her at the site she was active at. Good chance she'll get it then.
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Nice attempt to back her up, but I did send a PM. Just sheer laziness! Too many other designers out there to act like this....good way to lose business.
Lol, I haven't been keeping up around here. Went through just this last page to write up a novel of responses. Ha.
So...here goes:
I feel that friendships often seem more genuine between men. Solidarity between women is apparent when having pity parties with each other and commiserating about their relastionships and how men treat them, or when bemoaning the size of their thighs. But wait until one of the group of 'friends' loses weight, becomes prettier, gets more money, the big house, the expensive clothes or the hot man. The knives will be out. If you don't believe it, you've probably been watching too much Oprah.
Oh how true. We women love company when in misery. But, I must say, I keep very few friends BECAUSE I don't do the fake bullshit. The minute it STARTS getting fake or I realize it's getting fake, I come right out with it. I try really hard to not let the typical female mentality take over. "If I tell her how I really feel, she might get mad and stop being friends with me" type of thing. Yea. No. When it starts feeling like it's going in that direction, I say, ok here's the deal, if we're really friends, I need to tell you what's really going on and how I feel about things, because if I feel like there's that much to hide from you or that I can't trust you, then I don't think we should waste time pretending to be friends. If you upset me, I fully plan to tell you, because if not, it will reach boiling point and from there the friendship would be unlikely to survive. My bff are not bff because we pretend to like all the same things. We're not bff because we "never get on eachother's nerves" and we're not bff because we never have an arguement. I'm completely comfortable with the fact that we can say to one another "Hey if that's your thing, go for it", not always a lying line of bs of "Oh well if you like it then surely as your bff I must too and didn't realize it. I love to read. She doesn't. She loves tv. I don't. I do though try to keep up with shows I know she faves but am quick to tell her if it just isn't for me, but do find myself sometimes turned on to decent shows that I'd have never considered.
If something pisses her off about me. I know. Because she tells me. We don't play the buddy buddy fake game. We're never cutthroat or rude to eachother because it never has to get to that point. I've developed a motto of, "Just be yourself, because those who MIND, don't matter. Those who matter, won't mind. And it is OH SO true. If you can't be yourself to someone, should you really call them your "friend"? If someone doesn't like what you have to say, enough to write you off as a friend, should you suppress the way you really feel, just because if you don't, they won't be your friend if they really knew you? Is it really fair to YOURSELF, to hide who you are because your so-called friends wouldn't approve? So, for this, heck no, I don't have millions of friends, because, really...quality of friends is SO much more important to me than quantity. If I have a million friends who, to hang out with them, I have to change my personality based on "who I'm with right now", then am I REALLY comfortable with me? Or do I find my personality THAT flawed that no one can accept who I really am...
Nope. I'm me. And I have great friends for it. Who are right there with me and care for me genuinely and who are ALWAYS there to help right when I need it most. Not, contrarily, a million friends who, when I'm having a bad day, I can't go to them, because omg, what would they think of me if they knew I was upset over something like this? I love my friends. All that being said, am I a catty little bitch sometimes? Hell yea. But not to my friends. Rofl. I love to gossip and judge. Omg! Did you hear about Octomom? That bitch is crazy!! Omg, did you see what so and so did! effing slut face. It's part of my humanness. Do I think it's right? Nah. I'm working on the gossip habits truly, but sometimes (as of right now) I have a big opinionated mouth, I just can't really NOT voice myr disgust about something I find totally horrid.
Other topics will be separated rofl. This one is already a soapbox.
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Pretty bad. Had to do two separate posts on same subject. Wow. I'm Miss Suzy-Talks-Alot today...
Carrying on (because I'm feeling especially talkative today rofl.
Regarding a credit free forum, admittedly that would drive me nuts because rofl. I'm an instant gratification lover. I like seeing a layout and noticing a specific piece I like and having the ability to see credits and know where to find that for myself (not in a page ripping way, but in a...hey, I hadn't seen that! I could sooooo use that! (converse shoes for instance) and just...with so many kits, it's hard to really take the time to look at EVERY kit and inventory what each has. And as for praise, I am very spotty with my praise. I only praise someone when I feel absolutely compelled. It's never just a quick "Nice page" because I don't like coming off as thoughtless in commenting. I like to say more direct things about WHAT made me stop to look closer. WHY I liked the layout. HOW they inspired my own creativity. If I have enough time to click it and look closer, and enough time to get that inspiration, I feel SURELY I have enough time, in cases deserved, to remind them that someone did look, and someone WAS that inspired today because of them. No matter how well intended a "Nice layout" is, I know they disturb ME because it leaves me wondering, for real, or is that code for "Can you come look at my stuff now and comment me so I can feel like I'm any good"
ITA on the why be friends with someone if you can't be yourself.
Unfortunately, it seems like that's the minority opinion, especially in a hobby like scrapping.
As for all the drama over comments, I really can't believe anyone gives a crap about them. Really, are everyone's egos that effin' fragile?
Evidently some people's are if they have their panties in a twist over someone daring to type "nice layout." If the height of your life problems is that people don't "care enough" about your LO's to type a damn essay, then there's really just no hope for you-not as an adult, anyway. So just pull up your padded training pants, and go sulk in the corner, since I'm positive that telling you to get some perspective would just sail right over your heads.
(Oh come on, I know I'm posting a lot, but, on the bright side, you come here for reading material right? Lol. I'm catching up here.)
The naked children thing. Idk. I personally have an under-2 toddler, and I feel the same about not doing it. Same sentiment some expressed with the, omg, if my kid found out when he were older that tons of women coo'd over his adorable naked butt he'd probably be mortified. I know I would be. And plus why feature a naked butt when people coo more over his perfectly adorable dimples. Who needs cute hiney dimples when you've got just as smiling ones? :P
ITA with you 1:50
The 1:50 about the comments issue
And lastly, regarding both:
All the fantasy LOs are crap
All the LOs with tiny pictures are crap
All the LOs with a ton of elements are crap
All the LOs with no journaling are crap
All the LOs with huge photos and nothing else are crap
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okay if we are witchin' on things that we don't like...
how about 3 exactly the same picture on a layout?
It bugs me...one is a bit littlier, and then one is tiny, tiny...like the pic is an element? personally, I don't get it...but my pages probably suck to someone else!
I think the parts that most make me feel the need to say something are the ones downing photos as an element. Is not the photo the "important part"? If that photo for you said 1000 words. Wouldn't it be just perfect to leave the focus as the photos and play off of them? Is scrapping REALLY about the elements? Or the photos you loved and wanted to display. This is from the stance of someone who plans to devote my life career as a professional candid photographer to help capture those moments that are sometimes dependent on your memory.
The fantasy layouts are not my thing no, but, I don't think they're crap. Whether quality or not, they're just as much expression of what those particular people deem as art and sometimes they just wanted to play and see what kind of neat things they can do with their imagination.
The ton of elements thing, I agree also. The do often look nice, but to me it's trying too hard and comes off more as trying to use as much of the kit or kits as you can stick in there. But, I don't know the perspective of these people so I can't down them because, while some people's intents are obvious (CT) and while some may be trend following because that's how they think scrap is meant to look based off of other layouts. Some might possibly just do it because they were playing dress-up today. When you were a little girl, were 20 plastic bead necklaces, 30 bracelets, long clip on earrings and an irridescent purple princess gown necessary. Nope. But it was fun. So you did it. You felt pretty.
And then the journaling thing, it doesn't need journaling to be a good layout. I've done many that didn't have a lot of journaling but I loved how they came out and sometimes felt that just one quote summed it all up. Speaking honestly though, the layouts nearest and dearest to me though ARE the ones that I journaled on. Not sure I can say why, because even the ones without the journaling take me right back solely on the photo. I just find myself with a tendency to re-read maybe what it meant to me that DAY that I made the layout.
was that anne of alamo that just stopped by and talked our ear off. that is exactly how she responds to posts in the forum.
Not sure what difference that makes 3:30. Maybe you should post your name here as well. Or did you want to remain anonymous?
Yeah, not understanding all the angst and debate over comments.
I can see the angst over comments. Especially if your fairly new...I think most of the "old timers" got over that!
I have to admit when I first started out comments got me going. Had I got none or just a couple? hmm...fragile self esteem after seeing all the gorgeous stuff posted in galleries and finally getting up the nerve to post one of my own? I might have quit...might have just done it on my own thinking my stuff sucked too much for galleries.
Course that was another time in digi land. It was new still. Hardly any designers, in fact I only remember 1 store and it started out as a freebie place! No CT's. Everyone pretty much commented on everyone elses stuff and when a awesome scrapper like Anna Aspnes, Niecey, or Shabby Princess (before she was a star designer;)) commented in a good way on your layouts, it made, ME anyway, want to do more, learn more, push myself more. Made people feel they were a real part of a real "community". A movement so to speak! LOL!
Anyway those were the good ol' days. Too bad it deteriorated to what it is now. That tends to happen with rapid growth. The community changes and it is what it is.
Praise game type of stuff doesn't help either. The collective community should NOT need a "game" to get them commenting in the galleries.. IMO it's a lame excuse when people say something like, "the game helps me find inspiration" or "the gallery moves too fast". I call BS on that! The "game" alienates people. The "game" makes it easier to keep up with YOUR clique. The "game" makes a person look like they're begging for comments.
No one should have to beg for comments. But like I said before. It is what it is and unfortunately looks like it isn't heading for a mass change anytime soon.
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Oh and I have to add that none of the "awesome" scrappers of the day, Anna, Princess, etc.. EVER left a 1 or 2 word comment.
I heard real feedback from them. Not "nice layout" or worse.."thanks for sharing".
when a awesome scrapper like Anna Aspnes, Niecey, or Shabby Princess (before she was a star designer;))
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In fact, before Anna and Niecey were also star designers. I so miss Denise's designs. I still use all her kits that I bought and they are over three years old. Her 'old' stuff is better than a lot of the new stuff around now.
Not sure what difference that makes 3:30. Maybe you should post your name here as well. Or did you want to remain anonymous?
Same sentiment some expressed with the, omg, if my kid found out when he were older that tons of women coo'd over his adorable naked butt he'd probably be mortified. I know I would be.
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why? I don't understand this and I have never understood this. I can understand being mortified if the naked butt belonged to a teen, but not a baby butt. Why be mortified about a baby butt when you are older?
Are you refering to Denise Docherty?...OMG I only had the opportunity to buy a few of her kits and then poof she was gone...I have to add that the kits are beyond awesome...I SO WISH she would come back...why did she stop designing...truly talented woman!
What happened to Pinapple Plantations?
Are you refering to Denise Docherty?...OMG I only had the opportunity to buy a few of her kits and then poof she was gone...I have to add that the kits are beyond awesome...I SO WISH she would come back...why did she stop designing...truly talented woman!
September 24, 2009 9:23 PM
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Yep, that Denise. She stopped designing to spend more time with her family.
What happened to Pinapple Plantations?
September 24, 2009 9:29 PM
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Dunno, maybe she got fed up with the digi world? She did step down as a store owner and barely a month later, she's gone completely.
Didn't Pinapple Plantations (what's her rael name?) also start the digiscrapaddicts store?
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i meant "site" not "store"
Yep, Shauna, she did, but I think she did with her store co-owners at SO.
Because there are more posters than viewers. I don't visit galleries flooded with promotional layouts from everywhere and currently post only to places where my favorite designers sell and the galleries are limited to their products only (oscraps, SBG and occassionally SBE). My layouts,even the 1+ year old ones, get new views on a regular basis. There are just a few comments, but I don't care. My only motivation is to support designers by showing their products used by just a satisfied customer (as opposite to a CT member or a die hard fangirl).
After reading on this blog about SBB going downhill I went there to check the site out. My biggest surprise was that almost every layout in my abandoned gallery ( no uploads since last october) got 100+ new views. Wow! People actually do gallery search for product or designers name and possibly follow the store links. With all the designers gone most of my links will lead to nowhere though.
Posting at a purely pimping place like DST doesn't make sense as I see that no one has ever visited my gallery since I quit CTing last december and left the site alltogether.
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This is so true - I've noticed it myself. In places like DST or MSA, people only look at layouts around the time they are posted, so after some initial views, no one will ever look at them again. And forget DSA - I'm not even sure why anyone posts because the majority of layouts have zero views and zero comments.
In my store galleries, the views continue to increase with time. I get the most views at SBG and SBB. I get some views at SA. At DST and MSA, I only get 'Praise game' views.
No that wasn't me...and I admit I do go on and on a bit. Its from being an at home mom to 4 kids and totally needing to babble!
But I am totally wowed that someone knows my name! Thank you for at least reading my post! :)
I so hope you read some of it?
stop now Anne, you are doing it again!
Hey any Divine Digital Designers. You know pay was supposed to be completed like a week ago? Yet there is a message in the forum from the one who does pay which does not even have internet that pay is going to be late because of a computer crash. Am I the only one that sees this as a pattern? Something always arises at payday where we do not get our pay. Yet Royanna has pictures posted all over her fb of her recent trips to disney world ect. Makes you wonder if she is not using the pay that we earned to go on these trips. I am so sick and tired of every time pay is supposed to come around it is always something. So once I get what I am owed I am the hell out of that ghetto that they call a store. This is bullshit!
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There have been many complaints in the past about Divine Digital paying late.
I can't understand why anyone sells there at all, given Royanna's reputation.
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This has been discussed many times. Fool me once shame on me...fool me twice and I am outta there...
Ew. That sucks. I can't believe she is doing that to you. I hope you really do leave after you get your pay. There are hundreds of stores out there that will pay you on time and are always professional.
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There have been many complaints in the past about Divine Digital paying late.
I can't understand why anyone sells there at all, given Royanna's reputation.
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And what is this reputation you speak of?
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when a awesome scrapper like Anna Aspnes, Niecey, or Shabby Princess (before she was a star designer;))
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In fact, before Anna and Niecey were also star designers. I so miss Denise's designs. I still use all her kits that I bought and they are over three years old. Her 'old' stuff is better than a lot of the new stuff around now.
September 24, 2009 8:36 PM
You're absolutely right 8:36! Can't believe I left Anna and Denise out of the "star designer" category! I must have been tired when I posted!
I've got tons of Anna's things as well as Denise's on my hd still:)
I've seen Denise around off and on fairly recently but she's evidently not active in a gallery/site and not designing anymore...sigh. Wish she'd come back!
And what is this reputation you speak of?
September 25, 2009 5:13 PM
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That she's a drama queen and/or liar who is always crying wolf about being broke, homeless, etc. and then shortly after, she is bragging about lavish vacations and/or new purchases. She's had a reputation for paying her designers late for quite a while now.
Her design quality was talked about quite a bit on some of the old reveal and critique blogs. There was also a big brew-ha about her giving out customers' personal information in the DCR a while back.
She has been talked about for years, and in many places. When there's that much talk about someone for that long, it should send up some flags.
And what is this reputation you speak of?
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There have been previous complaints that she has not paid her designers on time. This seems to be a recurring problem.
I think some people are aggravated that she claims to have financial problems and computer problems, but allegedly, she was posting on facebook from her Blackberry about her trip to Disney World. I can see how the designers that are not paid on time would be irritated by this gossip. It is their conclusion that she is using "their" money to pay for the Blackberry and trips.
Bear in mind that this is a smack blog and I have no idea if any of these allegations are true.
Being that I am one of the designers that is caught up in her mess. I will tell you that yes it is all true.
Not even what was it 3 months ago she was living in her car and people were throwing money away on some shit colab for her and then the next thing you know she is at the Disney world Beauty salon for some birthday party.
I did not contribute to the BS colab because for one I know she pocketed that money without any remorse of who she is screwing over.
Then god forbid anyone go on the forum and ask where their pay might be a few days after the pay period is said and gone. They always have to throw it in the faces of those that are asking that it is such a huge store and that they just cannot do it all in one day. Well I guess if you cannot do it all in one day you better do it in the 7 day grace period you have to do it before pay is supposed to be done.
Unlike Royanna some of us do not have money handed to us. We have to work for our money and some even rely on their earnings to help their families ect.
So if she was in such a tight spot then she should understand how important the money that we make is given to use when it is supposed to be. Not when she decides to pay it out.
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This kind of BS is why I stopped buying from or even visiting Divine Digital a long time ago.
Royanna is due for a healthy dose of getting what she puts out there.
I don't have anything to say right now, but my word verification is "peeness" and I just can't let that go.
They always have to throw it in the faces of those that are asking that it is such a huge store and that they just cannot do it all in one day.
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Now that's the biggest baloney I've heard from a store owner not paying. I used to sell at two huge stores and I was paid on time, every time.
They always have to throw it in the faces of those that are asking that it is such a huge store and that they just cannot do it all in one day.
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Unless they have a shriveled up, 90 year-old accountant locked in a room with nothing but an old fashioned ledger book and a pencil, then they are full of shit. Any reputable business can handle their payroll in a timely fashion--there's tons of software out there-in all price ranges.
I've seen Denise around off and on fairly recently but she's evidently not active in a gallery/site and not designing anymore...sigh. Wish she'd come back!
September 25, 2009 5:15 PM
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Me too. She popped up at DST about 18 months, two years ago and said she was thinking about designing again. Never heard another word, even though a lot of people were glad to see her back.
I don't have anything to say right now, but my word verification is "peeness" and I just can't let that go.
I watched a show not long ago about how word verification is being used to write digital books. So they throw some random number strings to us but many are words for books. If u notice many times real words actually appear.
My fav wv are the recaptcha ones, like the one used at DST. Those words and phrases are so funny.
So how late is Royanna with payroll this time?
Thank goodness for freebies. I was on the verge of purchasing the new kit Pimp my Art, a collab by Glam Fairy of SBG and Mag designs at SPD. I decided to download the freebie being offered. I'm glad I didn't shell out any money. Blurriness, pixelation etc is not acceptable when you are asking so much money. I think I'll leave my money at CatScrap and Oscraps.
So has anyone some really bad or ugly stuff out there lately?
I was doing my Saturday rounds at the store and the collab between Traci Murphy and Faith True is just not cute at all. I really like Faith True too so kind of disappointed. Layouts didn't make me change my mind either.
http://www.funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/store/product.php?productid=21778&cat=0&page=1
I haven't seen anything truly inspired in a long time. I started to fall in love with that "Autumn at the Beach" or whatever it's called, but the galleries have now been flooded with CT layouts and I'm now sick of it.
ITA about the Faith True and Traci Murphy collab. I've never liked anything Traci has done-her stuff is just beyond pretty much awful.
Re: The Faith-Traci collab. I don't think it looks that horrible. I probably won't spend any money on it, but it's not "awful" imo. However, that first layout in the previews IS awful. Those shadows make me cringe.
i heard a few months ago that shauna (pineapple plantation) was dealing with some medical issues :(
That's too bad about Shauna-I did like some of her stuff :(
on the Faith and Traci thing, meh. I used to be a big fan of Faith's stuff, but have never cared for Traci's.
I'm not finding much worth buying lately. I'm hoping the Sunday releases at Designer Digitals will have something nice.
So how late is Royanna with payroll this time?
September 25, 2009 9:30 PM
I'm wondering this, too. And for Pete's sake, why hasn't she been called out for this a long time ago??
Just because a computer crashes does not prevent a store owner from paying designers. Store data is not not stored on the a hard drive but on the server provided by the host for the site. Even if a pc crashed, all you have to do is go to a friends house, log into your store, download the sales report. Next, you work out the commissions and then log in to paypal and pay the designers. While this doesn't always mean a hour of time, it definitely could be done in two days max.
So, you designers need to publicly call her bluff. Then, pack up and find a new place to sell.
I don't buy a lot anymore either. I buy stuff from certain designers and I'm on a couple good CT's and a store CT. I'm not looking for great. I'm looking for original. But sometimes when you get original from designers at After 5 or Shabby Pickle the designers are then selling those same unique items as CU stuff.
So we're not buying, but designers are buying CU stuff big time. Not original and I doubt they're making tons with the unoriginal stuff. Whateva. :)
I've been buying from Designer Digitals, Little Dreamers, Catscrap, Scrap Artist and some from Scrap Matters like Sahlin Studios.
So, you designers need to publicly call her bluff. Then, pack up and find a new place to sell.
September 26, 2009 6:41 PM
So true! Anyone who stays at her store, just enables her thievery. Why would you want to keep a thief in business?
So, you designers need to publicly call her bluff. Then, pack up and find a new place to sell.
September 26, 2009 6:41 PM
So true! Anyone who stays at her store, just enables her thievery. Why would you want to keep a thief in business?
September 26, 2009 9:09 PM
Do you think this is why all the designers left scrapbookbytes?
Do you think this is why all the designers left scrapbookbytes?
September 26, 2009 9:44 PM
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I hadn't heard anything, but went over and took a look. It looks like there are less designers there now, but I haven't ever heard of SBB paying late. *shrug*
I've been told SBB is revamping with an entire new makeover to launch new week. They've been recruiting new designers behind the scenes. Anyone care to take a guess who the latest additions will be?
Someone needs to open a digi-scrap mega store where all designers can sell, and then they can just all quit with the ding-dang store hopping. It's worse than the soap operas where everybody has slept with everybody else.
OMG, just went to SBB after the talk here and it looks like a ghost town compared to what it used to be.
SBB has issues with professionalism, as far as I'm concerned. I applied to a CT call they had a while ago, but while I was waiting for their decision, I was asked to join another (better) site CT. I didn't want to ditch SBB, so when they accepted me, I decided to try to juggle the extra team. I was told that I would get access to the SBB CT forum at the beginning of the next month. The next month came, and I had no access. I e-mailed the CT contact person, and got nothing back. That was fine with me, I wasn't too eager to join them anyway, but what kind of half-assed site recruits CT members and then doesn't add them to the CT? The store lost all credibility for me.
About two years ago SBB had a rare designer call. I applied. Amy, the owner, decided that she was going to reveal the names of the new designers on a day to day basis. No one knew who was in or who was out. It was completely unprofessional.
I remember that--total fiasco that peeved off many. I was one of those who applied :(. Never heard a thing back from her on my app. Neither did dozens of others--just left out in the cold without so much as a Thanks but No thanks or any kind of acknowledgment. Worst service ever. Glad in the end they didn't pick me. Wonder too who the poor unfortunate souls are that are being recruited now. I'm sure all those others didn't leave one after the other just for nothing, not after 5/6 years in the same place.
I think ShelleyRae leaving says a lot. She was so dedicated to SBB. Things must have got really bad.
Has anyone noticed the poor choice of some of the latest sugarbabes at SSD? Some of their layouts are so beginner-ish they are laughable. How exactly are they supposed to inspire? I could easily list a handful of better choices that are regulars in the community.
Does anyone really pay attention to SSD anymore? That place is so crazy cookie cutter, I'm just gobsmacked that anyone would bother.
I usually only buy from Dani Mogstad and at time MIsty Cato at SSD. It's the same old stuff in everyones kits. Just MHO ;)
I used to love Misty Cato's stuff before she went to SSD. Her style seemed like it changed to the more cutesy, same ol' kind of stuff that SSD is known for, though :( Same with Kristin CB.
Would you believe that there are only 4 NSBR threads replied to in the past 24 hours.
I've seen it as low as 6 or 8 but never 4.
bultripe was my wv
Would you believe that there are only 4 NSBR threads replied to in the past 24 hours.
I've seen it as low as 6 or 8 but never 4.
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I'd totally believe it. That place has been musty for quite a while now. It's become the stomping grounds for the likes of txmusicmom, opeysmama, tammy1999, etc. and there just aren't that many people that want to touch that kind of ignorance with a ten foot pole.
U can never go wrong with Catscrap, O Scraps, Pixel Canvas, Little Dreamer, and Shabby Princess. These r my old faithfuls.
I'm pretty much down to Shabby Princess and OScraps, with occasional purchases from Designer Digitals. They have quality stuff that I can use over and over.
I meant the regular NSBR board. I wanted to ask an opinion on something so I went to the NSBR board on 2Peas. You can get an answer there,lol!
I miss the sharing of recipes, bargains & stuff like that.
Unfortunately, I think the tone of Hot Topics has tainted the WHOLE NSBR.
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