What do you think? I really have no idea how many people post here. I am sure there is a mix of store owners, designers and scrappers. I seriously doubt there are many Digi Newbies hanging out here. It is not like this blog is linked up on the top 50 Digi sites.
Do people really not post layouts in galleries because of fear of backlash from the blog? I doubt it. I do think there have been some issues that have come to light because of the blog, some good, some not so good. Lots of speculation here, some truth, some lies. I tend to believe where there is smoke there is fire. That is why the same names seem to appear on the blog.
Quoted from previous thread:
"This blog can most definitely intimidate people into not posting at digi sites! Someone posts a LO or responds to a thread and there are pages and pages on this blog picking people apart, drawing false conclusions and outright lies.
People talk and share their stories of what is done to people here and of course some people will be skittish to share their personal photographs/layouts/feelings. You have to be naive to think that doesn't happen. There are people with feelings on the other side of the computer!"
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 993 Newer› Newest»That does not read the same! The translation is coherent. The first post was writen by someone who needs to brush up on their writing skills.
OMG I'm rolling on the floor laughing and why is that? Well I'm the original poster, and I speak and write English just fine. Obviously, I need to brush up on my typing skills as I was either in a hurry to post or half asleep while typing. So there you go-no more mystery. I'm so glad that all of you perfectionists out there are on the ball even though I'm sure you would never admit to making these kind of mistakes. Good gosh don't you all have anything better to do then pick apart a post. ROFL Just shakes head and trots off to do something more worthwhile.
That does not read the same! The translation is coherent. The first post was writen by someone who needs to brush up on their writing skills.
Written has two TEES so maybe you need to brush up on yours.
For those who think Americans speak American, there is no such beast. Americans speak English and a number of other languages to boot.
I have to agree with the original poster on this one obviously the perfectionists can't even get it correct.
Oh great, another American who think the USA owns the internet....
November 11, 2009 9:57 AM
Oh what's the point? We Americans truly are despicable aren't we? Wish I could get that through my thick skull.
I'm an American and I've been watching the British show The IT Crowd on Netflix lately. It is one of the funniest shows I've seen in a long time. I didn't even need it dubbed into "American" to understand the jokes. ;)
You know, the whole evil American schtick is pretty lame. I noticed a while back that someone here keeps tossing around those 'all Americans suck' type comments.
Someone sure has a myopic view of the world. That's sad. Must be a very miserable person.
Oh great, another American who think the USA owns the internet....
get a grip we do know that there are others in this world even if they are a bit alien. ROFL
Americans speak American English. Yes, very similar to British English, but by god those subtitles on Austin Powers were a life saver!
What language is American, LOL?
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The one with the weird spellings for a start.
For those who think Americans speak American, there is no such beast. Americans speak English and a number of other languages to boot.
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Oh please! If you think there is no such beast how come there are references to American as a language? Hmmm?
Not all Americans speak another language, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
You know, the whole evil American schtick is pretty lame. I noticed a while back that someone here keeps tossing around those 'all Americans suck' type comments.
Someone sure has a myopic view of the world. That's sad. Must be a very miserable person.
November 11, 2009 4:41 PM
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I agree and I'm not even American.
Not all Americans speak another language, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
It has to do with the fact that Americans are made of many nationalities so they not only speak English but they speak French, German, Farsi, Hebrew, Spanish, etc, and I certainly don't know who speaks American other then the American language is English with "Americanisms" differentiated by the British English which was brought to the colonies when they were settled by the British.
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Never understood why the Americans insisted on speaking English after fighting a war with England coz they wanted nothing to do with them and then continued to use the Imperial system of measurement, LOL.
Americans speak English
Americans spell American
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Not all Americans speak another language, so I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.
It has to do with the fact that Americans are made of many nationalities so they not only speak English but they speak French, German, Farsi, Hebrew, Spanish, etc, and I certainly don't know who speaks American other then the American language is English with "Americanisms" differentiated by the British English which was brought to the colonies when they were settled by the British.
November 11, 2009 10:10 PM
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You think America is the only country with other nationalities living there? Go to Australia and see every country in the world!
What language is American, LOL?
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The one with the weird spellings for a start.
November 11, 2009 8:21 PM
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Nonetheless, linguistically, it is English.
well, as an American, the whole language is pretty screwy...my poor son can't spell and I can barely blame him.
don't get me started on grammar!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
but don't you love how even prejudice can cross all borders in the digiworld?
4:13, you're just making yourself look like an argumentative moron. She didn't try to imply ANYTHING about other countries. She was just saying that not all Americans speak "American". I'm in the US and I hear Spanish spoken almost everywhere I go.
The point is why were other languages even brought up? The discussion was do Americans speak American English, not where do America's immigrants come from.
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4:13, you're just making yourself look like an argumentative moron. She didn't try to imply ANYTHING about other countries. She was just saying that not all Americans speak "American". I'm in the US and I hear Spanish spoken almost everywhere I go.
November 12, 2009 8:52 AM
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You are the frigging moron. That's exactly what I was trying to point out - that not eveyone in australia speaks the native language of English. If you are going to live in a country you should learn the native language. Period! I don't care what country you originate from but you should know the language of the country you are living in.
I don't care what country you originate from but you should know the language of the country you are living in.
November 12, 2009 3:49 PM
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That's tolerance at it's finest right there @@
It really pisses you off that not everyone shares your opinion, doesn't it?
Gosh 3:49, you REALLY set me straight! You've opened my eyes to the beauty of intolerance and I now realize that I have, in fact, been a complete moron for not getting my panties in a wad because someone around me is speaking Spanish. There were two ladies standing by the strollers in the store today speaking Spanish to each other! How dare they say something I can't understand? They were probably talking about ME! The nerve! I'm going to sit here and seethe about this, hopefully those women will feel my hate rays. That'll teach them!
I'm an American, and I speak English. People here often say,
"Hey, this is America, learn and speak English". I find it
ironic that we think that English is the "Original Language"
of the USA. Just think if the original inhabitants (ie Native
Americans) of this country had been able to enforce that policy,
we wouldn't be speaking English, but rather Cherokee, Cheyenne, Cree,
or one of the other hundreds of original languages that existed
in this country. Who knows what language America will be speaking
in a hundred years from now?
I'm bilingual as I'm an immigrant and although we all speak, read and write English, when we are out, my mother and I will often communicate in our native language.
My question to November 12, 2009 3:49 PM is this, if you heard us talking, would you just assume that we didn't speak English?
I do agree that if someone has been living in a country for a long time, they should learn to speak the native language. I find it inexcusable that my MIL has been living here for almost all her adult life (which is well over 50 years now) and still only speaks her native language.
OMG I'm rolling on the floor laughing and why is that? Well I'm the original poster, and I speak and write English just fine. Obviously, I need to brush up on my typing skills as I was either in a hurry to post or half asleep while typing. So there you go-no more mystery. I'm so glad that all of you perfectionists out there are on the ball even though I'm sure you would never admit to making these kind of mistakes. Good gosh don't you all have anything better to do then pick apart a post. ROFL Just shakes head and trots off to do something more worthwhile.
November 11, 2009 1:23 PM
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I wasn't picking it apart, just couldn't work out what the point was!!
Was the translation the other person made correct?
Oh great, another American who think the USA owns the internet....
We don't own it...but Al Gore invented it. That must count for something, right?
We don't own it...but Al Gore invented it. That must count for something, right?
November 12, 2009 11:06 PM
Okay, now that's just funny. I don't care who you are or what country you are from!
...I do agree that if someone has been living in a country for a long time, they should learn to speak the native language. I find it inexcusable that my MIL has been living here for almost all her adult life (which is well over 50 years now) and still only speaks her native language.
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My great-grandmother came over here when she was 16 and she died at 97 years old without knowing more than a handful of English words. She met my great-grandfather, who was an American soldier, in Poland during the war. He brought her here and married her. What I don't understand is how someone can be here so long, be married to an American (who was also in his 90s and still married to her when he died) and NOT know how to speak it. lol
Wow, this is really off-topic. Is there nothing dramatic going on? LOL that's hard to believe, too.
3:49 here
I'm not intolerant at all. I just don't understand how anyone can live in a country for years and not learn the language.
I'm not the one who started on the "american language" thing anyway so stop with the assumptions.
I'm bilingual as I'm an immigrant and although we all speak, read and write English, when we are out, my mother and I will often communicate in our native language.
My question to November 12, 2009 3:49 PM is this, if you heard us talking, would you just assume that we didn't speak English?
I wouldn't assume anything at all. If you live in NYC for instance you will hear lots of different languages spoken. Same thing goes for LA. I grew up in a small city at the time and I heard other languages even spoken there. I for one believe that English should be spoken in the schools and that driver's tests should only be given in English but speaking ones own language in the home or with other speakers of that same language is certainly reasonable. Why wouldn't it be?
Americans speak English
Americans spell American
November 12, 2009 4:11 AM
Yep that sums it up quite nicely!
If you are going to live in a country you should learn the native language. Period! I don't care what country you originate from but you should know the language of the country you are living in.
November 12, 2009 3:49 PM
BINGO!
So for those of you who think that anyone who lives in America should learn to speak English, would the following scenario be acceptable to you?
American/English/Australian military personnel who will be stationed in a non-English speaking country for more than say a year will be told by the host country that they must learn how to speak the 'native' language??
Question for English and Australian blog readers--are any government forms written or made available in other languages? Do schools only teach in English and provide no services for non-English speakers?
Military are stationed and normally do not have much of a choice of where they go, if any choice at all. If they do decide to make whatever country they're stationed in their permanent home then, yes, absolutely.
Did you see the this blog post?
http://royanna.blogspot.com/2009/11/hate-mail-about-divine-digitalwhat.html
Opinions?
she is full of shit. the FBI don't care that a scrapbooking site got hacked, and I guarantee she didn't pay two thousand getting her site back up. If she did she is a dipshit.
So any email about the site being down is considered "hate mail?" Even a problem with an order?
I wonder who the member was?
Where did she get 2K from?
We don't own it...but Al Gore invented it. That must count for something, right?
November 12, 2009 11:06 PM
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He did not! He's just another American who thinks owns the world.
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Um, she was KIDDING! Sheesh, I guess people outside the US can't take a joke.
(totally joking, don't stone me)
He did not! He's just another American who thinks owns the world.
We realize that, he claimed to though, OP was mocking him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
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Um, she was KIDDING! Sheesh, I guess people outside the US can't take a joke.
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I'm outside the US and I thought the original Al Gore comment was totally funny.
Question for English and Australian blog readers--are any government forms written or made available in other languages? Do schools only teach in English and provide no services for non-English speakers?
November 13, 2009 12:29 PM
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Australian here. Forms are provided in other languages and in schools, there is ESL, which is English as a Second Language. How else are they going to learn to speak it?
They should take private classes or have all the ESL kids in their own class. Too much time is lost to the English speaking kids because the teacher is occupied with the ESL kids. It's not fair on the English speaking kids. And no, I'm not racist but I do believe the English speaking kids deserve better.
Wasn't Dani Alencar outted as a pirate? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Something's definately wrong with this Devine Digital mess. Why would someone invest that much time and money and NOT have a back-up? Why did she have to start all over again? Very unprofessional to have a site and not back it up.
If you are a designer there GET OUT! She's already on to her next disaster. Her mom. Give it a few more weeks and it will be something else and then something else... She's either a fraud or a walking disaster (or both!). Neither of which is good for your business!
And no, I'm not racist but I do believe the English speaking kids deserve better.
November 14, 2009 2:45 AM
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Those statements go together well.
Another question for English and Australian blog readers? Are there lots of bigots in your country, constantly whining and crying about ESL services in school and how 'English speaking kids deserve better'? Does the U.S. have more ignorant crazies than other countries?
Something's definately wrong with this Devine Digital mess.
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Um, hello? Something has BEEN wrong the Divine Digital mess for a long, long time.
Places like DST are what keep the crooks in business. As long as they can keep sweeping the dirt under the carpet under the guise of 'being nice' crooks like Royanna, Amanda Dykan, Joedee, Ashley Olson, and Tandika, Keeley Simpson, and the fake teenager will keep on with their scams. The digi 'community' pretty much endorses it all, since it's taboo to call someone out.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And no, I'm not racist but I do believe the English speaking kids deserve better.
November 14, 2009 2:45 AM
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Those statements go together well.
November 14, 2009 11:42 AM
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Stupid bitch. You cut and paste only part of what I said just to twist it around.
The english speaking kids miss out on the teaacher time they should get because most of the teachers time is spent trying to explain things to kids who don't understand the language very well. The english speaking kids education therefore suffers. And yes!,they do deserve better - better as in teacher time. If the ESL kids were in a dedicated class with a teacher who speaks their language AND english they'd learn the language faster and the other kids education wouldn't be hampered because they'd have their teachers full attention. There's nothing racist about that so don't be such a bitch by trying to twist people's words.
Places like DST are what keep the crooks in business. As long as they can keep sweeping the dirt under the carpet under the guise of 'being nice' crooks like Royanna, Amanda Dykan, Joedee, Ashley Olson, and Tandika, Keeley Simpson, and the fake teenager will keep on with their scams. The digi 'community' pretty much endorses it all, since it's taboo to call someone out.
November 14, 2009 1:52 PM
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I disagree. Many of these issues were brought up at DST and we were allowed to discuss them. And just because it is someone's opinion that it shouldn't be discussed (someone will always say that there), it doesn't mean that it is DST's take on the issue. And it doesn't mean that people shut up about it either. The AD thread went on forever despite people sticking up for her! So to say that they sweep this under the rug is not really accurate. Someone just has to be brave enough to make the first post.
They aren't the police of the digi community so there really isn't much that they can do to stop these people from pulling schemes. Putting it out in the open doesn't mean that everyone will buy into that it really is fraud.
You're a bigot. Plain and simple. And a disgrace. There are far more kids of ignorant bigots like you that waste time in classrooms than kids who don't speak English.
They should take private classes or have all the ESL kids in their own class. Too much time is lost to the English speaking kids because the teacher is occupied with the ESL kids. It's not fair on the English speaking kids. And no, I'm not racist but I do believe the English speaking kids deserve better.
November 14, 2009 2:45 AM
Um, YOU'RE the stupid bitch. No one had to cut and paste you said EXACTLY what was quoted. You sound so much like tammy1999 and her cronies. You might be more comfortable spewing your hate over at hot topics. It's very much accepted over there.
The english speaking kids miss out on the teaacher time they should get because most of the teachers time is spent trying to explain things to kids who don't understand the language very well. The english speaking kids education therefore suffers. And yes!,they do deserve better - better as in teacher time. If the ESL kids were in a dedicated class with a teacher who speaks their language AND english they'd learn the language faster and the other kids education wouldn't be hampered because they'd have their teachers full attention. There's nothing racist about that so don't be such a bitch by trying to twist people's words.
November 14, 2009 3:59 PM
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As a classroom teacher I can unequivocally say that this is just BS. The majority of my time is NOT spent explaining things to the ESL kids. They also get special pullout services from an ESL teacher. I spend far more of my time dealing with disciplinary problems and disrespectful English speakers than every ESL kid I've had in all my years of teaching combined.
Why is this on a digital scrapbooking smack blog? There has to be something better to talk about!
Stupid bitch. You cut and paste only part of what I said just to twist it around.
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If you think someone has to twist any.thing. that you say to make it look bad, then you're even more delusional than your posts come off!!
Your nasty beliefs and biases are quite clear enough-no one has to do any twisting.
Why is this on a digital scrapbooking smack blog? There has to be something better to talk about!
November 14, 2009 4:17 PM
Well then, name it.
Many of these issues were brought up at DST and we were allowed to discuss them.
They aren't the police of the digi community so there really isn't much that they can do to stop these people from pulling schemes.
November 14, 2009 4:10 PM
I disagree. Things are allowed to be discussed only if and until Shannon says so. It's been that way since day 1.
No one said that DST is or even should be the police of the digi community. They do enough policing and blowing fake sunshine as it is. They are making their money off the dishonest people like Royanna and Joedee-they want it all hushed up just as much as the thieves themselves.
ok so then what has Shannon said "NO" to? The ones brought up in the post above were all discussed at DST.
Well then, name it.
November 14, 2009 4:21 PM
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I'd rather have nothing than this stupid ESL stuff being discussed. It has NOTHING to do with Digi.
in my area of the US, ESL *is* a separate class. They learn the grade level information in both English and their native language until they are fluent enough to join the main grade level classes, in which instruction is only given in English.
But my area also has a large enough base of ESL learners (and enough that all speak the same language as each other) to warrant a separate classroom.
this is digi-related: Wendy's new ebook thingy looks really interesting! I've made a couple digi things before (alpha, templates, etc) but never made a kit or sold anything. And don't really plan to...but I would love to get that ebook! I wish it was a little less expensive, though, since I can't imagine spending that much with no intention of actually selling.
When Royanna says "they lost everything", does that mean just the store contents (stupid for having no backup) or does she mean the store paypal was comprimised and money stolen too? That would be all too convenient.
Didn't the store get hacked once before too? If so, you'd think they would have taken better steps to protect it in case another hack was attempted.
Royanna is a sham. You cannot believe one single thing that she says.
Shannon has arbitrarily decided when to close every controversial thread that has ever been started at DST. The one about Mo, the one about Dykan, the one about Ashley Olsen, the one about Tandika, the one(s) about Joedee's charity scam(s), and on and on and on. Didn't she even close the one where MizAmyLou accused Faith of copying her BFF Kimberly G?
If she wasn't trying to play police, there would be no reason-nada-to close the threads.
I'd rather have nothing than this stupid ESL stuff being discussed. It has NOTHING to do with Digi.
November 14, 2009 4:29 PM
Neither does a lot of the crap discussed here. Just scroll right on by if you don't want to read it.
I'm always amazed and appalled by how many nasty bigots there are in digi.
Royanna 'loses everything' on a continual basis. Why people still fall for it is a mystery
But most of those threads are still open:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=188222&highlight=dykan
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=76767&highlight=joedee+elemental+scraps
I didn't search all of them. So I guess I don't see your point that we aren't allowed to discuss them. Mods come in when it gets personal and tell everyone to stop and get back on topic but they don't always close the thread.
November 14, 2009 3:59 PM
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I don't see any twisting. Looks like it was copied and pasted exactly as you said it and that you are an ignorant racist, even with your full explanation later.
You wonder why there is so much American bashing in the world, please see example A above of an American who thinks of themselves as better than others.
Then know that all of us aren't like example A. Thank you.
Shannon has arbitrarily decided when to close every controversial thread that has ever been started at DST. The one about Mo, the one about Dykan, the one about Ashley Olsen, the one about Tandika, the one(s) about Joedee's charity scam(s), and on and on and on. Didn't she even close the one where MizAmyLou accused Faith of copying her BFF Kimberly G?
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Yeah, yeah. The Mo thread went onto well over 100 pages, Shannon sure closed that one. The Dykan thread died out as there was nothing further to discuss. The Tandika went on for pages and pages too before it shut down. If some of those threads were closed it's because there was no point in beating a dead horse. But some people do love to do it. Go on and on and on and on and on about the same thing, arguing in circles, getting nowhere. I guess you are one of them.
Stupid bitch. You cut and paste only part of what I said just to twist it around.
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It's really interesting to note that you had to resort to childish name calling when the people who called you out, didn't. I wonder what that says about you?
Another question for English and Australian blog readers? Are there lots of bigots in your country, constantly whining and crying about ESL services in school and how 'English speaking kids deserve better'? Does the U.S. have more ignorant crazies than other countries?
November 14, 2009 1:45 PM
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Bigotry, like ignorance, is universal, it doesn't matter where you live.
As a classroom teacher I can unequivocally say that this is just BS. The majority of my time is NOT spent explaining things to the ESL kids. They also get special pullout services from an ESL teacher. I spend far more of my time dealing with disciplinary problems and disrespectful English speakers than every ESL kid I've had in all my years of teaching combined.
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Ditto. In fact, I have an endorsement in ESL but I teach in a regular classroom. I don't spend any more time with my ESL students than I do with any of my other students. People shouldn't make generalizations when they don't have personal experience to back them up.
I'd rather have nothing than this stupid ESL stuff being discussed. It has NOTHING to do with Digi.
November 14, 2009 4:29 PM
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And your point is what exactly?
Kind of strange that someone here is in such a big hurry to defend DST at every turn. Really, why bother with a blog whose very name suggests disdain for DST? I'm sure you'll spout some high-horse kind of crap, but the cold, hard truth is that you wouldn't be here at.all. if you were happy at DST or didn't love you some snark just like the rest of us here.
This isn't digi related but I'll share. I went with my mil to a "Just a Dollar" store this afternoon & there was scads of name brand paper scrapping supplies. Everything in the scrap area was marked down to .79 each.
I've been to the Dollar Tree stores & never saw very much paper scrapping supplies there.
I bought a few large brass embossing stencils for .79 each.
Way back when I was paper scrapping I never would have imagined that the supplies would end up at a dollar store. I wonder how the paper scrapping industry will fare in the next year.
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The world is not as black and white as you believe it to be. Just because someone says something positive about DST, it doesn't mean that the love all of it. It might just mean that some times, the continual bashing of DST just for the sake of it, is not only childish, but wearing.
Way back when I was paper scrapping I never would have imagined that the supplies would end up at a dollar store. I wonder how the paper scrapping industry will fare in the next year.
November 14, 2009 8:30 PM
I don't think it will do so well, and I think that digi is in the same boat. The economy is awful-it's not surprising that people are not spending frivolously. The paper industry has been tanking for well over a year.
DST sucks. Really blows, in fact.
Ditto. In fact, I have an endorsement in ESL but I teach in a regular classroom. I don't spend any more time with my ESL students than I do with any of my other students. People shouldn't make generalizations when they don't have personal experience to back them up.
November 14, 2009 7:33 PM
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I do have experience. Not all schools have the same setup as others. I don't believe my son should have to be in a year 12 math class and try to concentrate over the rabble of 7 or 8 other students speaking in another language. They may be helping each other out but they are disturbing others. Highschools don't always have separate ESL classes. It all comes down to numbers and if there aren't enough for a separate ESL class they are mixed in with english speaking students. Wanting my son to have a better learning environment does not make me a racist. I have friends here who are from various countries. People should stop tossing around the racist label when race has nothing to do with it.
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Racism and bigotry is very transparent. The only ones who can't see that are the racists themselves.
I do have experience. Not all schools have the same setup as others. I don't believe my son should have to be in a year 12 math class and try to concentrate over the rabble of 7 or 8 other students speaking in another language.
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Listening to your son parrot your prejudices doesn't really qualify as teaching experience.
People should stop tossing around the racist label when race has nothing to do with it.
November 14, 2009 9:07 PM
It's too bad there's not a cure for bigotry and intolerance.
I don't believe my son should have to be in a year 12 math class and try to concentrate over the rabble of 7 or 8 other students speaking in another language. They may be helping each other out but they are disturbing others.
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But what about the English speaking kids? Or don't they try and help each other out? When I was in high school, any of the kids who were talking were disturbing the others and we all spoke English.
9:07 how is listening to people talk in another language ("rabble" as you call it) any worse for cocentration than listeningto people speaking in English? I noticed you didn't mention anything about the helping that was going on in English, and I bet that involved speech.
You'd think that English would be MORE distracting, since your son can understand it and get caught up listening to the conversation.
Initially I agreed with your assertion that ESL should be a separate class, but the way you've gone off since being called out for your poor choice of wording...yeah, not so sure I wan to be on that side of the fence anymore.
9:07, I think your son is making lame excuses for his own poor performance. When exactly are these ESL kids being such a nuisance? While the teacher is lecturing? I find it hard to believe that a teacher would allow students to just chat with each other during instruction, regardless of the language. So are the ESL students talking to each other during the time that the teacher allows the students to work on their assignments? If so, that's likely only a few minutes/day in a high school math class. I'm sure that even if your son is being distracted during that time, he has plenty of opportunity to finish his work at home or during study hall. I'm also sure that other students in the class are talking to each other as well. Maybe your son has a sensory issue, or a time management issue, but I find it hard to believe that all of his problems in math are being caused by some kids speaking another language for a few minutes a day.
blah blah blah
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Thanks for contributing so intelligently to the conversation.
Way back when I was paper scrapping I never would have imagined that the supplies would end up at a dollar store. I wonder how the paper scrapping industry will fare in the next year.
November 14, 2009 8:30 PM
I don't think it will do so well, and I think that digi is in the same boat. The economy is awful-it's not surprising that people are not spending frivolously. The paper industry has been tanking for well over a year.
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You wouldn't prove that by walking in to an Archivers super store. They had a make and take weekend last week and people were lined up at the registers. I've never gone there where there aren't always people in their buying stuff-me included.
as for digi this has been my best year as a designer and I'm doing just fine, so you couldn't prove it by me that digi is on a downward spiral
and all of the above is happening in a shitty year for a lot of people but there are also a lot of people that haven't been as affected by the economy or someone losing a job. There are many who haven't had to change their life style one iota to continue to enjoy their hobbies.
in there not their for those spelling police out there.
Kind of strange that someone here is in such a big hurry to defend DST at every turn. Really, why bother with a blog whose very name suggests disdain for DST? I'm sure you'll spout some high-horse kind of crap, but the cold, hard truth is that you wouldn't be here at.all. if you were happy at DST or didn't love you some snark just like the rest of us here.
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really that is so strange though I come here to make sure people have the facts and not the bullshit and I'm sure Shannon doesn't care that you aren't over there instead of here. Obviously you feel better liked here then there. Isn't that usually the reason for the snarkiness.
I live in Canada and in the school I work in we have an ESL class. The students are in there for parts of the day and then integrated into their homeroom for the rest of the day. In that particular class we have 8 different languages.
These students are in charge of the UNICEF assembly every year and do announcements pertaining to different holidays. They also are in charge of the nutritious snack programme.
I consider these children a valuable asset to our school community as not only are we teaching them but they are teaching us.
So to the OP poster.......your commnent about your son only being distracted by 'non English' speaking students is complete hogwash. I have been in the education system for 20 years and can tell you that that the English speaking students are chatting just as much if not more.
Kind of strange that someone here is in such a big hurry to defend DST at every turn. Really, why bother with a blog whose very name suggests disdain for DST? I'm sure you'll spout some high-horse kind of crap, but the cold, hard truth is that you wouldn't be here at.all. if you were happy at DST or didn't love you some snark just like the rest of us here.
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Kind of strange that so many on this blog claim to be about getting the truth out. But when the truth is put out there about DST then all you can do is deflect--really mature response! I'm here for a number of reasons. For one I believe in truth. DST isn't perfect but it also isn't the total mess that many of you proclaim it to be. There's been a number of times that I have asked for proof with your statements about DST and it is never posted. So you really only have an opinion about DST. But if you can't back up what you are saying about them without facts then you're not going to get very far with changing my opinion. It's fine to not like them. But don't make up BS. You only make it harder to believe when something true is posted on this blog.
DST over time has become a giant classified listing/bilboard- I don't have time to sift through messages to find product recommendations from people who are NOT associated with the designer. I am also tired of CTs who rampantly post product recs haphazardly, without reading the ISO post, and not giving thought of what the OP is requesting. It's a waste of space. It's really only good for drama these days.
I don't have time to sift through messages to find product recommendations from people who are NOT associated with the designer.
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Why does it matter if they are associated with the designer if the kit fits your request? That doesn't make sense if they are answering the request. I especially appreciate when a layout is included to show that they worked with the kit. I actually prefer that to someone who knows that the kit is out there and hasn't ever used it.
I agree that I don't like it when they post something that is totally NOT what I asked for! If I ask for pink, don't show me green because then you look like a moron.
True, but the dynamics have changed at DST because of the postings at this blog. A few people realize that blindly supporting a designer when someone has publicly criticized them is likely to backfire. IE, Barbara Speck's posts supporting Tandika when Tandika pulled her site.
CTer's who rushed to defend Jen Wilson's vagaries, Royanna's sob story pushers, all of these are held up to the light and seen for what they really are.
Have things gotten better there? Yes! But it was because of the smack blogs. Do the smack blogs inflict harm as well? Of course they do. But I'd like to think that the posters in the Designers Forum think twice before they post there now. The ability to openly compare information on customers warranted the closing of that place, and I firmly believe it's inception is the root of many of the problems with diggy.
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The world is not as black and white as you believe it to be. Just because someone says something positive about DST, it doesn't mean that the love all of it. It might just mean that some times, the continual bashing of DST just for the sake of it, is not only childish, but wearing.
November 14, 2009 8:32 PM
Because I don't need 5 people from the same CT housing me to buy this one kit. The over-hype is nauseating.
I meant "hounding"
Yes... Exposing the mere practice of sharing customer information (even home addresses!) on the Designer forum at DST should be reason enough to have smack blogs. Checks and balances.
We used to talk about blacklists on the scrappy sheep blog... I would assume that there is one in some designer circles.
We used to talk about blacklists on the scrappy sheep blog... I would assume that there is one in some designer circles.
November 15, 2009 12:00 PM
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Another thing that has never been proven. If these really exist, then it would have been leaked by now. It's impossible to keep it that dark of a secret if you have more than two people involved.
Why does it matter if they are associated with the designer if the kit fits your request? That doesn't make sense if they are answering the request
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For me, it does matter. I want honest, unbiased opinions from people who are NOT being paid/rewarded by the designer to pimp their stuff.
It's the same reasoning behind my reading consumer reports vs. believing all the hype in commercials.
Kind of strange that so many on this blog claim to be about getting the truth out.
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Really? Where did the blog owner, or anyone else really say that? This place gets traffic because people are allowed to speak their opinions freely.
I really don't remember anyone ever claiming to be about 'getting the truth out.'
The only person I've ever seen make that kind of claim is the DST defender. And really, when you get right down to it, her truth is nothing more than her opinion.
But you aren't asking about the quality of a kit if you asking for a blue boy kit (as an example). And it is possible to still like something that was given to you for free. I still buy from many designers that I no longer CT for because I love their stuff. I may even suggest it if it fits the request. I was just fortunate enough to get it for free. And many other scrappers love their stuff too.
If you are looking for a certain quality then you need to make some digi friends that like the same stuff you do. Then you may be able to get some opinions that you trust. But expecting that to come through in a forum like DST is just unreasonable.
Personally this is one of the things I like about DST. I can ask for a certain type of kit and get to see many things from stores that I don't usually shop at. It gives me the opportunity to try something new. That's usually what I'm hoping for! I could care less if it is from a CT or not. And I can tell if the kit is crap or not. (most of the time) I just scroll by just like I have with all the stupid ESL posts on this blog.
her truth is nothing more than her opinion.
November 15, 2009 12:18 PM
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There more than 1 "her" defending DST.
"Her" truth is truth and not opinion. The person said that Shannon closed threads. She posted links to prove that Shannon let those discussions carry on. The threads were never closed. So I don't know how you can state the evidence is just opinion.
I come here to make sure people have the facts and not the bullshit and I'm sure Shannon doesn't care that you aren't over there instead of here. Obviously you feel better liked here then there. Isn't that usually the reason for the snarkiness.
November 15, 2009 8:29 AM
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LOL! Please, give us the "facts" about DST that we need to have. Seriously.
And when did anyone say that they thought Shannon cared? The majority of the comments about her have always been that she doesn't care.
As for someone 'obviously feeling better liked here than over there' that is just a complete crock. Every post here is anonymous, so it's kind of a moot point to talk about feeling liked at a place where you don't even have an identity.
A fact is a pragmatic truth, a statement that can, at least in theory, be checked and confirmed. Facts are often contrasted with opinions and beliefs, statements which are held to be true, but are not amenable to pragmatic confirmation.
For those of you that still confuse fact and opinion.
Please, give us the "facts" about DST that we need to have. Seriously.
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I did. You can go to DST and start any post that you have the balls to post.
So if you want to stop the frauds there. Go right ahead and do it!
So I don't know how you can state the evidence is just opinion.
November 15, 2009 12:27 PM
Well, mainly because I was not talking about threads being closed or not being closed.
But you aren't asking about the quality of a kit if you asking for a blue boy kit (as an example).
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When did anyone ever say they were asking solely about the quality of a kit?
I agree with the poster who said I don't want to be hounded by a CT with the same kit posted over and over. At some point, when people started posting ISOs it became nothing but a big CT fest, and it just gets old. I'm always amazed when designers and CTs won't actually listen to the feedback that customers are providing, and just argue with them about how wrong their opinions are.
Well, mainly because I was not talking about threads being closed or not being closed.
November 15, 2009 12:33 PM
Then what were you talking about? Because that's the lie that was being disputed.
I agree that not everything is great about DST. I just hate lies being thrown around.
I did. You can go to DST and start any post that you have the balls to post.
So if you want to stop the frauds there. Go right ahead and do it!
November 15, 2009 12:33 PM
I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I have not expressed any interest in posting over at DST to 'stop the frauds'
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When did anyone ever say they were asking solely about the quality of a kit?
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"For me, it does matter. I want honest, unbiased opinions from people who are NOT being paid/rewarded by the designer to pimp their stuff."
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SO, what was she talking about? If I'm looking for a pink boy kit then I expect that people are going to post pink boy kits that they know of. There's no bias in them answering even if they are on a CT. They're showing what's out there. I don't want their opinion on the kit. I can make judgements myself.
I think the CT enabling thread is stupid and I ignore it. That is very biased and it's just showing off. I prefer to look at the ads from designers that I like. But I will post an ISO if my go-to designers don't have what I'm looking for.
Agreed on the continual posting the same stuff but sometimes it's a mistake and the second poster didn't notice the first poster. It's not always over pimping a product.
To remind you what we're talking about:
"Places like DST are what keep the crooks in business. As long as they can keep sweeping the dirt under the carpet under the guise of 'being nice' crooks like Royanna, Amanda Dykan, Joedee, Ashley Olson, and Tandika, Keeley Simpson, and the fake teenager will keep on with their scams. The digi 'community' pretty much endorses it all, since it's taboo to call someone out."
"I disagree. Things are allowed to be discussed only if and until Shannon says so. It's been that way since day 1."
And someone posted links showing that these topics have been brought up and were not closed.
I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I have not expressed any interest in posting over at DST to 'stop the frauds'
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November 15, 2009 12:44 PM
I wasn't talking to you.
Another thing that has never been proven. If these really exist, then it would have been leaked by now. It's impossible to keep it that dark of a secret if you have more than two people involved.
November 15, 2009 12:09 PM
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OH! There is one! I've seen it with my own two eyes! It's in a super secret designer forum and only the cool designers get invited. And you would not believe some of the names on it. Basically if someone says something snarky in a forum and we don't like it, we add their name. And if they don't do their CT work, we add their name. It's so helpful too! That way I don't add people to my CT that are snarky to my best friends. There's about 200 names on the list at this point and it keeps growing. They can get off the list by buying hundreds of dollars of product from us or by pimping a product in a forum. So they can be on the list and get off the list without even knowing.
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LOL! @@
I wasn't talking to you.
November 15, 2009 12:57 PM
Oh, you were. You just didn't realize it.
Basically if someone says something snarky in a forum and we don't like it, we add their name.
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bwah!
What's the point of a black list if the people can still buy your products? That they don't get on your CTs? Big deal, I don't CT anyway. Doesn't really seem like much of a black list if the people aren't really banned from anything.
No, they ban your email or IP from buying. Of course you could use a proxy.
And then there's Mo and Moland (oh no I didn't!)
No, they ban your email or IP from buying. Of course you could use a proxy.
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What a bunch of hoo-hah. So if a 'blacklisted' person bought $100 or more, then they'd be taken off the blacklist?? But then, how would you know WHO to take off the blacklist, since the only way they could have bought is from a proxy??
And it's just redonkulous to say that designers, especially the 'cool' ones (lmao) would turn down any sale! Designers are whores for the almighty dollar, or the CT situation wouldn't have ever gotten so out of hand. And why sell if you're going to turn customers away???
Also, They wouldn't be 'cool' and popular for long if they were banning 'hundreds' of people from buying their stuff.
What a dumbass story to foist off. But thanks for the laugh-it was pretty funny to see someone actually try that.
What a dumbass story to foist off. But thanks for the laugh-it was pretty funny to see someone actually try that.
November 15, 2009 7:48 PM
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It was a joke. How stupid do you look right now? Pretty stupid I should think.
now I wanna be on that list...everything in my rebellious little heart hopes my name is way up on top!
especially since I don't spend anything, I CT! ha ha ha
ATTN: Commercial Use Designers!
You can sell your entire store for $1.00, I'm still not buying if you require credit.
It was a joke. How stupid do you look right now? Pretty stupid I should think.
November 15, 2009 8:19 PM
I'd say YOU'RE the one who looks pretty stupid, since just about every reply was someone laughing or saying what BS it was.
Pretty lame joke since no one took it seriously to begin with. . . just sayin'
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Duh that's what I said. I said the original point was a joke. What are you saying?
I'd say YOU'RE the one who looks pretty stupid, since just about every reply was someone laughing or saying what BS it was.
November 15, 2009 8:51 PM
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Everyone except for 7.48, who I was replying to. Why are you yelling at me for being stupid? Sheesh.
ATTN: Commercial Use Designers!
You can sell your entire store for $1.00, I'm still not buying if you require credit.
November 15, 2009 8:49 PM
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What? Don't you want to admit you don't make your own stuff?
Of course we don't block blacklist sales. That's not what the blacklist is about. We want the sales since the money is good. We just don't want them on our CT.
You think this is a joke?
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If it's not a joke, it should be a joke because that is the saddest, most pathetic thing I've heard in a long time.
Designers are whores for the almighty dollar....
November 15, 2009 7:48 PM
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as much as anyone who expects to be paid for a job done.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=219168
The brown nosing in this thread is a bit much, even for DST. I mean, seriously? You think designers should be charging $15-20 for their kits because they are just so gifted and we scrappers are not appreciating the hard work that they put into it? People ARE willing to pay for quality and talent, ala Lorie Davison, but there are very few designers who
are up to that standard.
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Actually, I don't see a whole lot of brown nosing at all. Are we reading the same thread? But then, you do think that Lorie has quality product, LOL.
"Designers, your work is most often worth more than you price it. Scrappers you get deals much much better than you imagine, even buying full price!"
I consider this to be sucking up, and patronizing to the people who just don't appreciate how lucky they are to pay less than $15-20 for a kit.
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That was the OP, I didn't really see anyone else say this. The point was made that there was a whole lot of brown nosing going on, one or two people is not a whole lot.
And digi is supposed to be cheaper than paper scrapping? I hate that argument. I was a frugal paper scrapper compared to some & didn't buy all those high priced embellishments. I stopped paper scrapping about the time that the Jolee embellies took over. I overspent on paper supplies at the beginning but then I used my stash.
I've spent a buttload on all of the 'necesssary' computer stuff like software, hardware & upgraded to newer computers that would run the programs. I've bought my fair share of digital kits too. However, I haven't bought any kits in at least 2 months.
And digi is supposed to be cheaper than paper scrapping? I hate that argument.
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Me too! Mostly because it's very inaccurate. By the time you factor in printing and albums or photobooks, it's really about the same. And that's not even taking the software and digital storage into consideration.
The argument that you can re-use kits only goes so far, too. Most people are only going to use a kit 3-5 times at the VERY most. Otherwise, no one would be buying after their first few kits!
"Designers, your work is most often worth more than you price it. Scrappers you get deals much much better than you imagine, even buying full price!"
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Gag-retch-puke!
God I love Hummie's siggy.
That was the OP, I didn't really see anyone else say this. The point was made that there was a whole lot of brown nosing going on, one or two people is not a whole lot.
November 16, 2009 4:43 PM
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She didn't say the brown nosing was from a whole lot of people. One person can do enough brown nosing on their own to qualify as "a bit much."
The argument that you can re-use kits only goes so far, too. Most people are only going to use a kit 3-5 times at the VERY most. Otherwise, no one would be buying after their first few kits!
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Well lets see the papers I buy from the scrapbook store are around $1.99 each and I can only use them once where as I can buy a digital pack of 8-10 papers for about $5.00 and I can use them a whole lot so your argument doesn't work either.
I don't HAVE to send off to have my LO's made into an album. I can print out on a smaller scale (8x8) and make my own darn album or I can dump it onto DVD and send it to a whole family worth of relatives. I have never spent as much in digi as I still do in the paper world. Of course that's probably because I buy a lot of toys to use on my LOs.
The brown nosing in this thread is a bit much, even for DST. I mean, seriously? You think designers should be charging $15-20 for their kits because they are just so gifted and we scrappers are not appreciating the hard work that they put into it? People ARE willing to pay for quality and talent, ala Lorie Davison, but there are very few designers who
are up to that standard.
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LMFAO at Lorie Davison and quality being mentioned in the same sentence. I don't dispute her talent, she is one hell of a talented lady, but her quality sucks bit time.
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I'm not alone!!! Yay.
What's wrong with Lorie's quality?
"Designers, your work is most often worth more than you price it. Scrappers you get deals much much better than you imagine, even buying full price!"
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Gag-retch-puke
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Obviously the truth makes you sick! Oh well find something cheap you can enjoy.
"Designers, your work is most often worth more than you price it. Scrappers you get deals much much better than you imagine, even buying full price!"
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Gag-retch-puke
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Obviously the truth makes you sick! Oh well find something cheap you can enjoy.
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The original quote had an air of "pick me for your CT!!!!" to it.
I don't HAVE to send off to have my LO's made into an album. I can print out on a smaller scale (8x8)
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No one said you HAD to send off for printing. But even if you print on your own, the ink alone is very expensive. Not to mention paper and a decent quality printer. Even "throwing together" your own album requires supplies-the album itself, possibly page protectors.
The whole DVD argument is moot. You're comparing the costs of paper scrapping to digi. In paper scrapping, you end up with a physical product/page. To do that in digi costs far more money than just the digi kit. Trying to deny that fact is ridiculous.
Obviously the truth makes you sick! Oh well find something cheap you can enjoy.
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The original quote had an air of "pick me for your CT!!!!" to it.
November 17, 2009 10:21 AM
Exactly.
LMFAO at Lorie Davison and quality being mentioned in the same sentence. I don't dispute her talent, she is one hell of a talented lady, but her quality sucks bit time.
November 17, 2009 2:35 AM
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Jealous, perhaps? :-)
The OP in that thread IS a designer. I think she has more of an interest in seeing prices go up than she does in trying to get onto more CTs.
November 17, 2009 7:25 AM Im not the person that posted that above but I agree.
I have bought great kits of hers. But I have bought several of her kits that had so many strays on the elements they were almost unusable! Mostly on the stuff she extracted, brooches and jewelry etc...
Lorie's quality is hit or miss.
Most people think they should be paid more for what they do. As long as anybody with a computer and Photoshop can be a designer, there's not going to be the same sort of prestige and pay that an educated professional gets. If you don't like it, do something else. I'm not going to pay $15 for a burger just because the guy at McDonalds does such a good job arranging the lettuce and tomato. It's the same with a kit. Again, if it doesn't pay enough, do something else.
"I'm not going to pay $15 for a burger just because the guy at McDonalds does such a good job arranging the lettuce and tomato"
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LOL, that's funny :)
to be the same sort of prestige and pay that an educated professional
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Not all professionals are educated nor do all of them have prestige.
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Jealous, perhaps? :-)
November 17, 2009 12:29 PM
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How old are you?
I have bought great kits of hers. But I have bought several of her kits that had so many strays on the elements they were almost unusable! Mostly on the stuff she extracted, brooches and jewelry etc...
Lorie's quality is hit or miss.
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As a customer did you let her know about her quality. I'm tired of hearing all these accusations but no one does anything about it. If you buy a kit that is below par then email the designer and let her know. If she actually knows and continues with bad quality then she'll lose a lot of customers-not something most designers want to happen.
Jealous, perhaps? :-)
November 17, 2009 12:29 PM
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How old are you?
November 17, 2009 3:34 PM
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I'm 39. Not that it matters, because it's not an immature or inappropriate question.
Not all professionals are educated nor do all of them have prestige.
November 17, 2009 3:33 PM
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It's a generalization, not meant to be interpreted as an always-and-in-every-case statement.
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I'm 39. Not that it matters, because it's not an immature or inappropriate question.
November 17, 2009 4:21 PM
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Actually, it is. It's not always about jealousy. If you've been around this blog for a while, you would know that. Responding with the jealousy remark is juvenile. It's like being in high school where someone dares to make a negative remark about the popular girl.
I'm not jealous of the poor quality of Lorie's work. I don't think the others who find her work suspect are jealous either. Why would you even ask such a thing?
November 17, 2009 3:49 PM
Actually, yes I did.
And her response was such that I forwarded it with screenshots and a complaint to the stores customer service address. Shitty attitudes of designers do reflect poorly on an entire store, whether they THINK they do or not.
THE STORE offered an apology for the quality and her response, but She herself did not.
The kit is still for sell.
Is it fixed? I dont know, but I know I wont buy from her again. To know something is messed up and still sell it is bunk.
As a customer did you let her know about her quality. I'm tired of hearing all these accusations but no one does anything about it. If you buy a kit that is below par then email the designer and let her know. If she actually knows and continues with bad quality then she'll lose a lot of customers-not something most designers want to happen.
November 17, 2009 3:49 PM
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How do you nobody does nothing about it?
I complained and she's still selling the same kits. I bought three on sale and dumped all of them.
Why she's still in business, I don't know. Maybe some people don't care or can't see the faults or they make do.
Shitty attitudes of designers do reflect poorly on an entire store, whether they THINK they do or not.
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I agree. Seeing as that store has more than it's fair share of poor quality designers, I won't shop there at all anymore. There are some designers there who do care, Flergs for one. Not my cup of tea mostly, but at least you know she bothers.
As a customer did you let her know about her quality. I'm tired of hearing all these accusations but no one does anything about it. If you buy a kit that is below par then email the designer and let her know. If she actually knows and continues with bad quality then she'll lose a lot of customers-not something most designers want to happen.
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I'm so tired of hearing this BULLSHIT. No, I DON'T tell the designers. If it's real bad, I'll request a refund from the store I purchased it from. If it's bad but workable, I may try and fix it up but I'll never ever buy from that person again.
Just like when I buy anything else and it sucks, I either eat it and never buy that brand/item again or I get a refund. I've never contacted the manufacturer to let them know they need to work on the quality of their product. Not unless I was writing a letter with the return of a product for a refund.
I would hope the stores are the ones taking care of their designers' quality issues by monitering and checking. It's NOT my job and I honestly don't give a shit. As someone else stated, if you have Photoshop (or whatever) you can be a "designer" too. It's just like everything else: Buyer beware.
As for the Lori Davidson comment...how the hell can she be soooo talented but her designs are shitty quality? Shitty quality=not talented at all. I'm confused.
I don't know who this is and obviously have never bought from her but the comment about how talented she is but her quality sucks is retarded.
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Actually, it is. It's not always about jealousy. If you've been around this blog for a while, you would know that. Responding with the jealousy remark is juvenile. It's like being in high school where someone dares to make a negative remark about the popular girl.
I'm not jealous of the poor quality of Lorie's work. I don't think the others who find her work suspect are jealous either. Why would you even ask such a thing?
November 17, 2009 4:56 PM
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Let me be specific, since you seem to require it. Are you jealous of her success, and trying to bring her down by criticizing her quality, or do you have an honest criticism (as someone did further down) to present? It's a smack blog, so smack away, but don't expect everyone else to just nod and say yes, you're right of course.
As for the Lori Davidson comment...how the hell can she be soooo talented but her designs are shitty quality? Shitty quality=not talented at all. I'm confused.
I don't know who this is and obviously have never bought from her but the comment about how talented she is but her quality sucks is retarded.
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November 17, 2009 7:12 PM
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Artistic talent and quality control are not the same thing. She does do some beautiful work, but just because it looks beautiful doesn't mean she is great at quality control. Some people don't care about stray pixels because their scrapping style doesn't show them up, but to others it is very important.
I have only seen her work on previews and it is beautiful from that perspective, but I have no idea what her quality control is like up close.
Artistic Talent and Attention to Detail are just not the same thing. You can be good and not the other and vice versa.
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I never said I expected anyone to agree with me. Her quality is bad, one set of elements I bought had web quality letters and numbers on the elements. They looked awful on the screen and even worse printed out.
I don't smack people to bring them down just for the sake of it. Again, high school mentality.
Shitty quality=not talented at all.
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No, they don't equal each other at all. Someone can have great quality, but not that much talent. Other people have talent in their design, their ideas etc, but that doesn't mean they have quality control.
Lorie Davison's work is beautiful. I would be illustrating books if I were her, surely there is far more to be made doing that than designing scrapbook kits!!!
Probably wouldn't have to worry about stray pixels then either!
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Exactly. Her doodles and drawings are great. She should stick with those instead.
I'm sure it's not that easy to get a gig as an illustrator of children's books. Not to mention it probably being quite stressful, with having to meet deadlines etc.
I don't smack people to bring them down just for the sake of it. Again, high school mentality.
November 17, 2009 7:48 PM
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And since we're all such good friends here, it should be obvious that you are above the fray. Because there's no high school mentality AT ALL about a smack blog. P.U.! Smells like hypocrisy in here!
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Must be your own you smell. Before you use big words, make sure you know what they mean.
Here, I'll help you:
Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy is thus a kind of lie. Hypocrisy may come from a desire to hide from others actual motives or feelings.
Hypocrisy is not simply an inconsistency between what is advocated and what is done.
I don't smack here so, I'm not a hypocrite. I'm the same here as I am in the forums.
Some people ...
Oh no, my dear. You are a hypocrite, but feel free to dress it up any way you want. It won't change the fact. :-)
Hypocrite: a person who pretends to have *virtues*, moral or religious beliefs, *principles*, etc., that he or she does not actually possess.
I'm not pretending to have virtues or principles I don't possess. Just because I read a smack blog? Get real.
You can think what you like, your opinion doesn't matter one iota.
If her opinion didn't matter you wouldn't keep coming back to respond.
I'm so tired of hearing this BULLSHIT. No, I DON'T tell the designers. If it's real bad, I'll request a refund from the store I purchased it from. If it's bad but workable, I may try and fix it up but I'll never ever buy from that person again.
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Well it's BULLSHIT to complain and not take it to the source. As a designer I'm very glad when someone brings something to my attention. Just like when I get poor service in a store and I ask for the manager or I write a letter to the CEO of a company.
Yes to a degree the Store can be told or request a refund but again if a designer doesn't know or I'll even go so far as to say doesn't care then that designer isn't going to have many customers. Unfortuneately there are many out there who are clueless and think their designs are just perfect!!
I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying give the darn designer a chance to make it right or to at least know there is a problem. Again if the designer doesn't care then you have your answer.
I complained and she's still selling the same kits. I bought three on sale and dumped all of them.
Why she's still in business, I don't know. Maybe some people don't care or can't see the faults or they make do.
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You hit the nail on the head-some people don't care. Obviously she has enough customers so that it doesn't matter to her. That kind of thing leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth and she is definitely doing a disservice to her fellow designers who do check their product before putting it out to sell.
That's what happens when designers get too big for their britches. Jen Wilson is another case in point. They want to get the product out as fast as they can-more product more money? I guess if you lose customers because of it and you aren't making more money, you go design for a paper company where it doesn't matter.
k~as a CT, I always let the designers I create for know about bad quality...always, I don't think it is in the "job description", but ever time I have told the ladies, they have been so thankful, and remove the item or fix it as soon as possible.
I would think the CTs to the big name designers do the same??
I have a few of L. Davidsons, and I haven't seen the problems you have. I get the collab at SBG monthy and almost always lean toward using her contribution to it. I think the lady has some talent.
nope, not on her CT...or sucking up to be...well maybe a little bit, so Laurie, if anonymous sends an application...pick me, pick me, pick me!!
I am just sick to death of digital scrapbooking. I'm hating it all. Store owners all have their heads up their asses. I've never met a dumber group of people. I'm turning my back and walking away. I'm ashamed I stuck around this long.
OK, I am English so I'm wading in here :) As far as I'm aware, pretty much all government forms are available in many different languages, from Welsh, Irish and so on to the languages of people who have immigrated here. The only one I am not sure about is the passport form. Everything else I've seen - tax, NHS, info leaflets - has "also available in *language*" in about twelve different languages at the bottom, and government offices have racks and racks of different language leaflets and forms up on the walls for people. I think there is some kind of system where you can request forms in your language and after something like 50 requests it goes on the list for future printings, and govt offices will put you in contact with translators and interpreters if you need them (a friend's mum did that freelance). Personally, I was in a school with a high number of people (more than 90%) whose first language was Gujarati. While classes were in English, there was a lot of support for kids who were having trouble with English, we had a few bilingual teachers, and the afterschool clubs included traditional Indian dance and musical instruments alongside the book club, football and toy library. Looking back on that experience I am very proud of my country. I wouldn't say it's perfect but when it works, it works well :)
Can all the people on here that are so sick of digi (not just the poster above) but all those that keep coming here to bitch all the time JUST LEAVE. Take your bitching and negativity with you PLEASE.
Can all the people on here that are so sick of digi (not just the poster above) but all those that keep coming here to bitch all the time JUST LEAVE. Take your bitching and negativity with you PLEASE.
November 18, 2009 12:57 PM
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I don't understand how anyone could "hate" digi. It's not as if we're talking about a serious issue, like I hate poverty or I hate rape. It's digital scrapbooking people. Time to find a little more meaning in your life.
I am just sick to death of digital scrapbooking. I'm hating it all. Store owners all have their heads up their asses. I've never met a dumber group of people. I'm turning my back and walking away. I'm ashamed I stuck around this long.
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You don't have to be a part of the digi drama to love digital scrapbooking. I am getting into clean and simple scrapping and sometimes I use very little elements on my page. Many of my layouts are more graphic design oriented than scrapbooky oriented.
I love digi scrapbooking and do a lot of layouts but I am not on any CT's and I do very little business with the stores. You can still love digi scrapbooking and stay away from the commercial side of it.
I am just sick to death of digital scrapbooking. I'm hating it all. Store owners all have their heads up their asses. I've never met a dumber group of people. I'm turning my back and walking away. I'm ashamed I stuck around this long.
November 18, 2009 12:47 PM
I totally understand this feeling. I got fed up with DST and never did like store forums, since I was a very diverse shopper. I quit shopping, started using up my stash, and my scrapping taste has also gone more the way of graphic design. I'm enjoying scrapping again, but did have to walk away from the digi "community." I'd never even consider CTing again--much happier without all that bullshit in my life!
If her opinion didn't matter you wouldn't keep coming back to respond.
November 18, 2009 2:29 AM
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Incorrect. I'm trying to make her see the error of her ways. Not at all the same thing.
Incorrect. I'm trying to make her see the error of her ways. Not at all the same thing.
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um sorry to burst your bubble but that never happens here. People keep their opinions
Here is another reason I value non-CT suggestions in ISO posts. They have no allegiance, no benefit. They're more likely to search out and try other designers, and get more bang for their buck!
Have you seen this template yet?
http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/product.php?productid=1162&cat=0&page=1
I was browsing the GSO (desperate, I guess), and kept seeing these layouts that look like someone plopped two big bunny ears in the middle. It's soooooo weird. How can anyone think that looks good? Here's a layout that would have been beautiful, minus the bunny ears.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=840573&cat=fav
I feel kind of sorry for whoever is behind Dido Designs.
Okay I almost spit my drink out because I thought your post said something besides Dido!! I think I would have selected a different designer name than that.
I had to check out the template pack though. I don't like the bunny one but some of the others are okay.
That template isn't my cup of tea but each to their own I guess.
Okay I almost spit my drink out because I thought your post said something besides Dido!! I think I would have selected a different designer name than that.
I had to check out the template pack though. I don't like the bunny one but some of the others are okay.
November 19, 2009 7:14 PM
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Get your mind out of the gutter, girl!
Yeah, I agree that the other ones are nice. I only noticed because the bunny ears were so prominent in the GSO. It's such a surprise that everyday, whatever new kit/set of templates is released, the GSO is chalk full of CT layouts. Okay, it's really not surprising, but when I saw SEVERAL bunny ears layouts, I knew somebody, somewhere thought it looked good.
Playboy!
It's the lack of imagination of the people using the template that's at fault. Here's a LO that looks good using that template
http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/images/cache/bd2d6d6ffa6879a85baeb3719405b81d.jpg
You could do more with it, like not having the photo in front of the bunny ears, but on the other side of the page.
I don't think any LO using a template should be in the GSO, unless someone has really turned the template into something new.
Quick question....
Is the anyone besides Ikea Goddess that does freebies?
There are thousands of freebies out there.........that's not to say they are all worth downloading but there are definitely good ones to be found. Try checking out the designers blogs or the designers forums at their store. They often post links to freebies there.
You're funny! Ikea Goddess is someone that lists freebies she likes on her blog. She doesn't actually make them herself. She has lots of designers in her RSS feed thing and she posts all the ones she likes, along with a link to their blogs.
For freebies look on http://digifree.blogspot.com/ and http://www.digiscrapdepot.com/
There are tons more out there.
freebie lists.....
Here's another blog with freebies: http://cbhscrapbookfreebiessearch.blogspot.com/
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