I just love it when people screw up, don't follow thru, pretend they know everything - make a fool out of themselves...disappear and then change names thinking no one will notice. I noticed.
this chickie used to go by "Scrapbookizate" - - came into the DST designer forums about a year ago, telling everyone what to do and how to do it...a real know it all. Funny thing was, she was always wrong. Then...she starts this Magazine. It was mentioned here quite a few times. She had an article on copyright, which was so screwed up it WASN'T funny. One of her editors and contributors was COLS. LOLOL.
She took payments from people...granted it was cheap as hell to advertize, but still. The magazine stopped being "published" thank God....but alot of people were out a few bucks. She was selling at Gingerscraps at the time...and faded away from everything. The chick in the above thread is her.
If you can't read the thread...do a search for AidaScrap. Same person. Man.
yeah, its her. Her "real" name is/was Aida. She applied for my CT at one time. so - I'm positive. and the way she is posting in the DCR again - same attitude.
With regard to those watching hot topics, IF I was a store owner I wouldn't care if a designer was posting his/her opinion EVEN if a customer emailed me complaining about their political discussion.
Despite what we see on this blog, it IS possible to give an opinion and still be respectful. But too many people believe that anything differing from their own opinion is just someone being stupid and rude. So they stomp off like big babies and threaten to not buy stuff from the designers they CT for or the designer themselves. I think it's immature and really control freakish. (and I have a feeling these types don't really buy anything anyway.)
I buy from designers because I like their designs. I could care less what politics they support. As long as they provide customer service when it's needed, I don't even care if they are a total witch in the forums. I probably wouldn't even know about it unless I read about it here. Even then, I don't care.
I don't think it's very professional for a store owner posts to the existing design team about applicants. For one thing, people have personality conflicts and it doesn't' mean one person is more 'dramatic' it just means that they rub each other the wrong way. For another thing, the owner should be making decisions based on quality and style fit for the store. If their existing designs don't like someone they bring in new, it's up to the designer to be mature and professional about it, not refuse to be associated with them.
If I owned a store and I had designers say they didn't want to be associated with a certain designer because of how they behave in forums ... unless that person was really rude or a known pirate .. I'd tell the designer to suck it up or move on.
Thanks. ScrapGirls have been doing layered templates like that for elements since forever.
I'm not seeing the action part to those templates?
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Sorry I meant styles not actions - my bad.
Layered psd templates you can apply color or a style to.
Oh and btw, when I looked at Creative Mundie to get the URL ... guess which designer was guesting? Mye de lon (or however that chic spells her name now). How does she do it? I looked at her kits on that site - not in the same league as the rest of the site at all. Again how does she do it?
Oh and btw, when I looked at Creative Mundie to get the URL ... guess which designer was guesting? Mye de lon (or however that chic spells her name now). How does she do it? I looked at her kits on that site - not in the same league as the rest of the site at all. Again how does she do it? -----
But that's not the same thing as actively watching the Hot Topics and basing their decisions solely on that forum, you said so yourself.
April 24, 2011 7:15 PM
Never said "actively watching" and never said "basing their decisions solely on that forum." Go back and re-read it. Owners have take forum behavior it into consideration for bringing someone onto a team. I've seen it happen.
Having said that, I don't actually care how you conduct yourself in a forum. Feel free to run your mouth where ever and when ever you want. Knock yourself out!
I'll keep my own loud-mouthed opinion here on this blog where it's anonymous, and it doesn't lose me any sales.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Good. I'm sick and tired of designers not following TOU's but expecting their customers to. I wish more designers would get called out.
wv: luting Maybe Tricia should not be luting other designers work.
Quite often I read something like that at the TOU files: "Special thanks go to the following designers, whose resources may or may not have been used for the creation of this kit" followed by a not small list of CU designers. My question is: would it be legitimate for me as a scrapper to upload a LO in a gallery and credit all the designers from whom I have purchased over the years?
Quite often I read something like that at the TOU files: "Special thanks go to the following designers, whose resources may or may not have been used for the creation of this kit" followed by a not small list of CU designers. My question is: would it be legitimate for me as a scrapper to upload a LO in a gallery and credit all the designers from whom I have purchased over the years?
Quite often I read something like that at the TOU files: "Special thanks go to the following designers, whose resources may or may not have been used for the creation of this kit" followed by a not small list of CU designers.
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I question designers that have a long list of CU stuff in their TOU. Are they too lazy to keep track of whose stuff they use? It's not that hard really.
Lots of designers do that because they want to give a shout out to the people they use even if they haven't used them in that kit. For example, if say they really like KimB, they want to give her a mention in every TOU (even though she does not require credit) to draw some attention to her. I don't see why it matters how people list what resources they use.
I think the biggest list of credits I ever saw was in a freebie download (which was AWFUL) from the Polka Dot Chicks. There had to be FIFTY designers listed. It was ridiculous! Then again, all her stuff is CU anyway so I don't know why I was surprized.
Anonymous said... Lots of designers do that because they want to give a shout out to the people they use even if they haven't used them in that kit. For example, if say they really like KimB, they want to give her a mention in every TOU (even though she does not require credit) to draw some attention to her. I don't see why it matters how people list what resources they use.
April 26, 2011 11:07 AM
Gimme a break, what kind of attention can she draw to her favorite CU designer, when she is in a list with other ten, twenty, fifty people? I'd say they are just lazy!
Frankly, I'm more and more coming to the conclusion that having to credit whose kit/cu you used is absolutely ridiculous.
Hmmm....let's see....I buy Photoshop and use it to make something I'm going to sell, give away, or display. Does Adobe demand that I credit the use of their product? Nope...that's one of the things I've never seen listed in their licesing agreement.
So, honestly, why do these designers HAVE to have anything of theirs that's used be creidt? I'm not against giving credit where credit is due but I'm really starting to feel that I'm free advertisement.
If I'm on a CT, that's one thing. I'm getting the kit for free...I darned well better be advertising it. But....I've paid for something and now I need to also provide the free advertising?
I've got an idea for designers, if you want people to list you in credits - whether it's in a layout someone made using a kit you designed or it's CU used in a kit - how about if you start paying out a percentage of your profits to everyone who advertises for you.
I'm starting to reach the point where either I don't bother uploading layouts anywhere 'cause I don't want to have to list all the credits and be a free advertiser or, if I do upload, it's because I didn't use anything that came from a designer.
Lots of designers do that because they want to give a shout out to the people they use even if they haven't used them in that kit. For example, if say they really like KimB, they want to give her a mention in every TOU (even though she does not require credit) to draw some attention to her. I don't see why it matters how people list what resources they use.
Why should the one buying the kit think the designer of the kit made everything in it if she used other resources. Copyrights still belong with the original designer and besides being the right thing to do it's also a nice thing to do. I don't think it has anything to do with KimB getting credit in a TOU if she has nothing in that kit but most designers only write their TOU once so they don't have to change it for every kit.
I question designers that have a long list of CU stuff in their TOU. Are they too lazy to keep track of whose stuff they use? It's not that hard really.
Time is money so I don't think I'm being lazy by not having a TOU specific to a certain kit. TOUs are boring and most of the time no one reads them anyway.
I create my TOUs specific to each kit/product and I credit everything including fonts even when credit is not required. I have my TOU file open while designing and it also helps me keep track of how much CU I have used. I try to limit my CU usage. All in all I do not believe any time is lost crediting.
I sell CU though and my TOU does not require credit. I find it nice to credit and I think it would be nice if someone credited me, but I also think not many scrappers really look at TOUs.
I don't think it's very professional for a store owner posts to the existing design team about applicants. For one thing, people have personality conflicts and it doesn't' mean one person is more 'dramatic' it just means that they rub each other the wrong way. For another thing, the owner should be making decisions based on quality and style fit for the store. If their existing designs don't like someone they bring in new, it's up to the designer to be mature and professional about it, not refuse to be associated with them.
If I owned a store and I had designers say they didn't want to be associated with a certain designer... I'd tell the designer to suck it up or move on.
April 24, 2011 8:45 PM
Agreed. Some designers already on a site might not personally care for another designer, who is applying at a site. Designers who are already on the team can say just about anything they want about another designer, painting them in whatever light they choose, whether it's true or not. Some people do have personal differences or personality "clashes" and to punish a new applicant by taking another designer's word for it that the new designer has some "issue" is completely unfair. The "accused" never even has a chance to defend herself or prove any allegations untrue.
Also agree that designers need to be professional and mature about working with other designers, and grown-up enough to put aside their petty differences or disagreements.
If store owner is making her decisions taking other designer's word for it, she could be missing out on a fantastic designer based on other designers jealousies or other personal conflicts, and not making fair and wise decision based on talent and quality work, as it should be.
wv = nothing. I think making reference to the word verification thing is ridiculously stupid and usually they are made up or twisted, and even then not nearly as witty or clever as the person posting thinks they are. Can we please stop with these idiotic things? They rank right up there with the even more ridiculous and unoriginal "kettle/pot" comments.
When I thought about becoming a designer (damn glad I decided against it) I had one TOU file and then I had a CREDITS file that was kit specific. The CREDITS file listed all my resources, fonts, brushes, textures, etc. This was the day before CU products but if I had used any I would have listed them there.
wv = nothing. I think making reference to the word verification thing is ridiculously stupid and usually they are made up or twisted, and even then not nearly as witty or clever as the person posting thinks they are. Can we please stop with these idiotic things? They rank right up there with the even more ridiculous and unoriginal "kettle/pot" comments. ---------------------------------
I disagree, I find the wv comments cute and funny and add a little bit of lightness at the end of a post.
If store owner is making her decisions taking other designer's word for it, she could be missing out on a fantastic designer based on other designers jealousies or other personal conflicts, and not making fair and wise decision based on talent and quality work, as it should be. ----------------------------------- I see nothing wrong with an owner asking the existing designers for their opinions on potential applicants. The more input the owner gets the higher chance of getting a group of designers that work well together.
I would hope that a store owner would not make her decision solely based on what another designer says. There would be a lot of other factors to consider. The applicants talent, reputation in the community, the designers style, responsiveness to emails, etc.
But on the other hand, I wouldn't hire the most talented designer if her personality was such that it would cause discord amongst an already established group.
I used to list every designer's CU that I had ever used in my TOU. I thought it was nice to list them all and I didn't make a specific TOU for every kit. Now (a year later)I don't list anything and I don't buy from someone who either demands credit or won't allow freebies.
I also don't ask for credit from scrappers when they post in a gallery (changed my TOU to that effect also). They shouldn't have to advertise for me.
Amazing how my attitude has changed over 1 year in so many areas but I've learned a lot. Too bad I can't start a thread on DST that would spell out the real truths about this industry or my real feelings. But since I can't, I'm going to list a few.
1. I'm sick of having to leave 'love' in the gallery (not dst) on a certain amount of layouts. Some are so bad that honestly, there isn't much I can say that's positive.
2. It pisses me off when I leave a comment about a photo and the scrapper used a stock photograph. Wish I would have known, as I would have passed them over.
3. I feel that store owners put the majority of the advertising burden on us and that sucks.
4. Sick of hearing the same old crap regarding CU. Scrappers don't care as long as they haven't seen it in 5 other kits and you've made something new out of it.
3. I feel that store owners put the majority of the advertising burden on us and that sucks.
4. Sick of hearing the same old crap regarding CU. Scrappers don't care as long as they haven't seen it in 5 other kits and you've made something new out of it. -----------------------
I couldn't agree more with these two statements. Sometimes, I feel like I'm paying for the privilege to advertise for someone.
As far as the CU...I frankly don't care if it's used or not. As long as it looks different, that's all I really cared about.
And to segue just a bit...I also don't care if the same ribbon, bow, etc. is in there five times recolored. Yeah, I know, most people can recolor and I, personally, can do that quite well. You know what, though, I don't really feel like taking the time if it's already going to come recolored in the kit.
For the designers who don't use CU or put in the same item recolored...bully for you. It does NOT mean you've got a better product or that I'm going to run to buy it. I'm going to spend my money buying what I like 'cause, in the end, it's only my tastes that really count and effect what I spend my money one.
1. I'm sick of having to leave 'love' in the gallery (not dst) on a certain amount of layouts. Some are so bad that honestly, there isn't much I can say that's positive. ---------------------
Don't suppose you could leave a little "tough love" and point out where they went wrong. It could be interesting. *LOL*
Seriously, that's one of the problems that I have with commenting in the galleries. It seems it's become declasse to leave anything approaching constructive criticism. How is someone supposed to ever improve? Although, I guess some people don't want to improve and think they're already geniuses at what they're doing.
I see nothing wrong with an owner asking the existing designers for their opinions on potential applicants. The more input the owner gets the higher chance of getting a group of designers that work well together.
I would hope that a store owner would not make her decision solely based on what another designer says. There would be a lot of other factors to consider. The applicants talent, reputation in the community, the designers style, responsiveness to emails, etc.
But on the other hand, I wouldn't hire the most talented designer if her personality was such that it would cause discord amongst an already established group. ----------------
Agreed. One of the stores I worked in, the owner would ask us, the current designers, about any applicants. However, ultimately, she would make up her own mind.
Americo's templates look so familiar to you because they are everywhere! So the only original and artsy shop is Americo's shop! LOL!
April 26, 2011 6:16 AM
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Yeah, it's still only one designer in the whole store, instead of every designer in the store. Plus I don't think Americo's templates are all that in the first place. Not bad, but nothing special either.
1. I'm sick of having to leave 'love' in the gallery (not dst) on a certain amount of layouts. Some are so bad that honestly, there isn't much I can say that's positive.
2. It pisses me off when I leave a comment about a photo and the scrapper used a stock photograph. Wish I would have known, as I would have passed them over.
3. I feel that store owners put the majority of the advertising burden on us and that sucks.
4. Sick of hearing the same old crap regarding CU. Scrappers don't care as long as they haven't seen it in 5 other kits and you've made something new out of it. ---------------
1. Never had to do this, where do you have to do this and who says you do?
2. Who cares? If it's still a good photo, although I find that most of the time it's pretty damn obvious it's stock.
3. It's your business, don't you care enough to advertise it?
4. It's not what you use, but how you use it. Scrappers do care if it's used badly, no matter what you might think.
And to segue just a bit...I also don't care if the same ribbon, bow, etc. is in there five times recolored. Yeah, I know, most people can recolor and I, personally, can do that quite well. You know what, though, I don't really feel like taking the time if it's already going to come recolored in the kit. ---------
I don't really care either, my problem is that most of the time, the recoloring has been done really badly. If the designer is going to recolor, do a good job, don't just adjust the hue/saturation, it requires more than that. Yes, it really does.
I'm betting 90% of those who respond with what they're "going to buy" will really be CT members pimping the stuff they already got for free. That's what those threads always turne into...a giant pimp-fest.
What do the {} mean around some of the designers names in the shop at SugarHill? Some designers have 2, some have 1, and some have none. I'm sure it's to differentiate them but how and why? Ya, I'm nosy.
What do the {} mean around some of the designers names in the shop at SugarHill? Some designers have 2, some have 1, and some have none. I'm sure it's to differentiate them but how and why? Ya, I'm nosy.
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The people with 2 are totally exclusive and the people with 1 aren't exclusive to SHCO with their kits but their CU is exclusive to SHCO.
Well I know that one of the comments that got deleted was someone named Karin saying that LDD closing and then reopening was one way to get rid of your designers.
While I'm far from being a prude, I really don't think that sort of layout should be allowed. Most sites are supposed to be "family friendly" and kids look through the galleries. I don't usually like the use of stock photos on any layout but why make a layout of someone else's tits anyway? It seems rather pointess to me (excuse the pun) LOL
there's nothing wrong with that LO, her boobs are covered up. While not exactly family friendly, it's not exactly family unfriendly either. I've seen more cleavage at the mall.
Yeah, her boobs are covered........ by sheer fabric that shows her nipples. May as well be naked. Not necessary and even less so as it's a stock photo.
While I'm far from being a prude, I really don't think that sort of layout should be allowed. Most sites are supposed to be "family friendly" and kids look through the galleries. I don't usually like the use of stock photos on any layout but why make a layout of someone else's tits anyway? It seems rather pointess to me (excuse the pun) LOL April 30, 2011 8:53 PM
Well of course it's a stock photo. Victoria Silvstedt is a super model. It's not like the scrapper just chose some random stock photo, it's obviously a page about a celebrity she likes.
I know it's difficult for you ninnies to comprehend, but some people like to scrap things other than their ugly kids.
Ok, I just can't take this anymore. There's a thread in the DCR about freebies. Of course, the usual are lecturing everyone to NOT give freebies (jaguarwoman and Lucie). But here comes Digidesigncrew's post and omg, I just have to repost to see if anyone else sees the hyprocisy.
"thank you dana, i also couldn´t agree more with your posts
i guess i´m going to stop this crazyness somehow. actually i want not to have 50 designers in my store and cannot generate a fulltime income for fulltime work just because nobody is willing to charge $$$ for their hard work.
and agreed - NOTHING is free, not time, not computers, not energy, no graphic tablet you need, resources you buy etc. __________________
Yet here's her signture:
Tons of FREE videotutorials for Scrappers! Learn Photoshop Elements FREE - Sign up for our newsletter or blog feed to stay tuned!
So I guess it's not good to give out anything for free unless they're tutorials?
So I guess it's not good to give out anything for free unless they're tutorials? --------- Maybe if people knew how to use their program, they would need less freebies? Come on. I have seen complaints that designers are keeping their "secrets" instead of sharing them, and now, you would complain that someone is giving "knowledge" for free instead of charging?
This seriously makes me laugh "Another thing really bugs the hell out of me - People who steal kits or anything, music, movies, graphics etc and share with the entire world - to people they don't know."
Kits, ok. Graphics, ok. Music? Movies? I can't say I know one single person that hasn't illegally downloaded a song, tv show, or movie OR hasn't gladly used some that someone else downloaded illegally. My grandparents have even watched movies that were downloaded. I hate it when people act like every move they make is perfect and law abiding. It's how things are now which is why I don't care if my products are pirated, it's not like I can stop it. I'm grateful for the people that actually buy them and I'm not wasting my time worrying about who is stealing and sharing.
That complaining about freebies thing is annoying. I'm a designer. I like hearing thank you but I've been designing long enough to not get bent out of shape about it. Sometimes I forget to say thank you too.
As far at Stuff to (s(crap) - maybe she's in the store because they just had their designer contest ... don't know if she was a winner but that could explain it
Totally unpopular opinion (bring out your claws, ladies): Maybe it's not such a bad thing to leave kids behind? May 1, 2011 2:28 PM
-------------- You wont get any argument from me.
The average American IQ is only 98 and it's the truly stupid who breed senselessly, so it's not a figure likely to change.
20 percent of high school seniors can be classified as being functionally illiterate at the time they graduate. (http://education-portal.com/articles/Grim_Illiteracy_Statistics_Indicate_Americans_Have_a_Reading_Problem.html)
I say we just put them in jail instead of school, since that's probably where majority of them will end up. I'd be willing to pay them 3 square meals a day in exchange for a license plate and clean, sparkling freeways.
It would be better than always having to tell stupid little Johnny he's a winner when he's really an entitled, illiterate moron. Then graduating him from high school because he can't be "left behind" when he can't do basic math or read.
Maybe if people knew how to use their program, they would need less freebies? Come on. I have seen complaints that designers are keeping their "secrets" instead of sharing them, and now, you would complain that someone is giving "knowledge" for free instead of charging? ________________________________
You totally missed the point. The poster was agreeing with jaguarwoman that we shouldn't be giving out freebies - nothing really. But in her signature she gives out free tutorials.
You obviously didn't catch they irony there (or is it hypocrisy?)
As far at Stuff to (s(crap) - maybe she's in the store because they just had their designer contest ... don't know if she was a winner but that could explain it May 1, 2011 3:10 PM
--------- I bet you're right. Looks like they got the cream of the crop there ...
You totally missed the point. The poster was agreeing with jaguarwoman that we shouldn't be giving out freebies - nothing really. But in her signature she gives out free tutorials.
You obviously didn't catch they irony there (or is it hypocrisy?) May 1, 2011 3:16 PM
--------- Knowledge should always be free. It's what one does with it that is compensated.
Knowledge should always be free. It's what one does with it that is compensated.
That's an overly simple and unrealistic view.
Try telling any Universities, book-stores, authors, teachers at anything other than public school, any of the thousands of internet marketers who sell information products, etc. etc. etc. that they must share their knowledge without being paid.
If someone takes the time, energy, effort to put together excellent materials to educate someone else, and help the person to improve themselves or their life, the person who did the work does deserve to be compensated for their time, energy, and expertise.
Of course people can go to the public libraries, thousands of websites, and many other places to learn almost anything, but that doesn't mean everything educational or anything that passes on knowledge should be free.
the whole thread in the DCR about freebies was started by a gal who recieved a nasty comment on her blog pertaining to a freebie she gave out. She was looking for support/sympathy to her situation. The thread was hijacked by Jaguarwoman as usual - saying basically - then don't give out freebies. a response that was about half a page long, as usual. Her tag along cohort in the freebie bashing antics is Lucie, as usual also. Then toss in Tiffikat who says Jaguarwoman was being rude. The thread went downhil from there - AS USUAL. The person who says she is fed up with giving freebies, also states that she can't get her designers to stop selling for under $2.00 per kit, and is sick of freebies all together. This person is Monja, the owner of DigiDesign Resort. Monja (and her cohort Carena, who also posted) DEMANDS constant freebies from her designers. She has turned what was a once HALFWAY decent shop into fantasyland with almost all European lesser known designers who pretty much always give away their stuff. Monja made the changes, Monja is the freebie monster....and yet she is the one agreeing with Jaguarwoman. The whole thread is a joke.
I kinda scrolled thru past threads here....this Mommy and Wife person - is that the one that was giving out tut's in PSP, couldn't spell, looked for CT people at DST, and made such horrendous stuff? I can't find the old thread here....but for some reason it seems like that gal. and yeah - she got in STS by winning in that goofy contest for the best of the worst.
Of course people can go to the public libraries, thousands of websites, and many other places to learn almost anything, but that doesn't mean everything educational or anything that passes on knowledge should be free. _______________________________
Actually libraries aren't 'free'. They have to purchase the books and magazines that we read and they're supported with tax dollars.
Try telling any Universities, book-stores, authors, teachers at anything other than public school, any of the thousands of internet marketers who sell information products, etc. etc. etc. that they must share their knowledge without being paid.
If someone takes the time, energy, effort to put together excellent materials to educate someone else, and help the person to improve themselves or their life, the person who did the work does deserve to be compensated for their time, energy, and expertise.
Of course people can go to the public libraries, thousands of websites, and many other places to learn almost anything, but that doesn't mean everything educational or anything that passes on knowledge should be free. May 1, 2011 4:33 PM ----- I just said knowledge should be free.
If you're willing to pay someone for their "time, energy, and expertise" that is something entirely different. It's what someone has done with the knowledge that becomes valuable.
No one finds value in paying someone who says, "the sky has clouds." What is vauable is paying someone to help you understand why. And the more personalization you want to help you understand that why, the more valuable it becomes.
Tina of SHCO emailed Loreta of DSB with this email:
"Hi, just stopped by the site and was a little shocked ... May I ask how come it looks so much like all my ideas for my site? (Cupcakes, same kind of background etc.) http://www.sugarhillco.com"
A friend sells at DSB and was telling me all about it. Drama everywhere.
Anonymous said... I kinda scrolled thru past threads here....this Mommy and Wife person - is that the one that was giving out tut's in PSP, couldn't spell, looked for CT people at DST, and made such horrendous stuff? I can't find the old thread here....but for some reason it seems like that gal. and yeah - she got in STS by winning in that goofy contest for the best of the worst.
May 1, 2011 7:01 PM ----
She wasn't in the contest, but she is the gal that got an "honorable mention" here a while ago. The kit in her store isn't the first she designed. She had a freebie on her blog, which was crap (both the freebie and the blog LOL!), but somehow that post of hers got deleted along with the readers' comments.
I was really surprised about the new DSB look - I saw it earlier today when I was doing something else. I'm not surprised Tina's pissed - it looks like a total rip off. At least the cupcake idea works with the sugar concept. Don't see the connection of cupcakes to Brazil. Too bad - I like DSB.
To anyone on the inside - do share anymore you know :)
I think that the DSB site does look like the SHCo site. And I'd love to 100% support DSB on this issue, because I love their site and designers. Regardless of copycat Miss Tiina, copying a copycat is really just sad and pathetic.
as an insider, here's what's going on in the forums at DSB. it's a 17 page thread. here's some comments. other than this, most of it was discussing what new background to have. The old background was almost exactly like SHCO's background. she's changed it almost as soon as Tina emailed her. there's alot more there but i got too lazy to finish going through the thread lol.
From Queen of Hearts - "first of all i dont like Miss Tina. but thats unrelated to DSB LOL i like her CU, okay well the non creepy kawaii stuff but not her, long story from over a year ago wont get into it LOL. personally when i saw the new look i didnt even stop to even think it looked like SHCO shes just jealous that your cupcakes are better looking than her creepy kawaii faced ones cupcakes arent prohibited for any site to have as their logo anymore than the color blue cant be used to make a logo if anything tell her you'll change the BG ( maybe pink or to black and white striped, which would rock btw, have it have that retro cupcake feel) but the cupcakes stay cause they look NOTHING like her fugly ones neither does our writing"
From the owner, Loreta - "Just an observation! I met two other stores are very similar to hers. May I ask who imitated Whom?! LOL
Kasia Designs: http://kasiadesigns.net/shop/index.p...\u003dindex&cPath\u003d1 W & W Designs: http://weedsandwildflowersdesign.com/shoppe/"
From Jassie - "OMFG! Seriously ?!?!?! Geez !!!!!!!!!! Well ... It does look a lil like it when i think about it but not the cupcakes ... just the back ground. I agree with Carly 100%! Just change the BG, nothing else! Your cupcakes look way cuter ... not to mention her site has only one creepy looking cupcake ... yours has three totally cute ones! Man some people Will influenza about anything ..."
From Queen of Hearts - "honestly if it was me id leave it just to piss her off LOL"
From Jen Yurko - "Now That You Have girls gone off the deep end, LOL i have to say a few things and i think the mud-slinging and name calling is a little too much here. i thought We Were adults? acting like 5 year olds is just going to make matters worse.
when i saw the new clothes on the site today, i thought it Immediately Looked like SHCO all over again. yes the cupcakes are different cupcakes But The Concept Is The Same and the LAYOUT is the same. i think this is what Miss Tiina is Trying to convey. and i agree with her wholeheartedly. Basically - DSB looks like it copied SHCO in it's design theme
Which is not a good thing, loretta. it's bad for business. i think the cupcakes are cute But the way the site is laid Out With Them? you're Asking For Trouble.
My advice is to change the graphics as well as the background. or at least come up with a new design with the cupcakes so that the layout is different. if you'd like i will come up with a design theme for you (i just finished one for n gumdrops lollipops last week ... and I've done BZB site designs as well)"
From Janyelle Mayara (translated) - "Loreta, honestly, I like some of CUse Misstina, but she did not admire him as a little person. When I started as a designer she came to cause trouble with me because she said I had not paid a product that was in my kit. At the time I was injured, went shopping and delete the e-mail orders, I had to prove by email, but only with printscreen Store (Funky), which for her came to nothing. To avoid confusion grew up just paying for the products again and alone. About the history of the store, I found her attitude very strange, it seems she is looking for trouble. She did not and the only person in the world to draw cupckakes! For me, a little change bg or leaving listrinhas with different colors or beads that would always look cute. About the cookies, I demand that they remain! hahaha They are super cute and not look like hers. At most, only say that the store is beautiful, I loved the colors used and the environment was cleaner!"
From Queen of Hearts in response to Jen Yurko - "i disagree! i dont think her cupcake just needs to b changed at all! she shouldn't b forced to cause some shop owner has a hair in her ass. although i can Understand the BG issue, the cupcake issue is unwarranted. maybe if YOU HAD little smiley faces on her then yes i can see That doesn't But she and her doodles is not just vectors Lo Should only change it if she feels she needs to not cause shes forced to Miss Tiina doesn't own copyright over someone using cupcakes and im blunt and i tell it like it is, If That makes me 5 yrs old, i need to figured out Which box lunch to take to school tommorrow Have i shouldn't namecalled LOL though i relish when im called the B, i wear the title with gusto idk its not my call, im sick and i said my peace lol wants to say i do i can Understand Your points to what your Saying lol"
Loreta, the owner, in reply to Jen Yurko - "Jen, I never said the stores That Are not similar. They really are! But there are two other stores That Are too! Look with your own eyes:
These stores Also Have In Their Hearts side column boxes and are in gray scale. Kasia and Gina Marie Have Also copied Miss Tiina? Or is it the reverse? About layouts all stores (or ZenCart XCart boards) are equals! Unfortunately I Can not Do Anything about it.
About my cupcakes I do not renounce Them. Drew Them and I didn't use anything of nobody. That I will not change at all. In most of the layout."
I still don't understand why she is even still in business, or why anyone would purchase from her. She's a liability risk to anyone who uses her stuff.
MooTwo stole from MissesBehaven - right down to the same striped paper and ruffled edges (MB has since changed)
Funky Playground stole from Plain Digital Wrapper. -------- Or could it be simply that the same person designed more then one store site so that the sites are similar. I just happened to notice this on two other stores and it really didn't surprise me at all because how many store owners can actually design their own site. There are a few designers out there that offer this service and so everything doesn't come down to copying or a conspiracy theory. But, boy if anyone can point fingers it's the people on this blog.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Sweet Shoppe been using cupcake theme for several years? Are they also copying Miss Tiina??
Not only copied the cupcake theme but also the "sweet" theme. What else does "sugar" have to do with digiscrapping?
It might be easier to ask "what HASN'T she copied?"
In the end, none of her allegations matter, because you can't copyright the very generic placement of elements or common arrangement of a site, and you can't copyright using white and light grey, or using a very common design element like a cupcake (which I have seen on many sites of many genres).
If anyone tried to bring this to court they would be laughed right out of the courtroom. Well, unless Miss Tina was somehow able to get cupcakes trade-marked. LMAO! Like that will happen!
There are a few designers out there that offer this service and so everything doesn't come down to copying or a conspiracy theory. But, boy if anyone can point fingers it's the people on this blog.
May 2, 2011 1:49 PM ------
Huh? Pointing fingers while condemning pointing fingers.
I have to side with Miss Tiina on this one. Way too similar. Seriously, this is supposed to be a creative hobby - try to come up with something yourself that is not based on another site. Jeez.
I still don't understand why she is even still in business, or why anyone would purchase from her. She's a liability risk to anyone who uses her stuff.
I have to side with Miss Tiina on this one. Way too similar. Seriously, this is supposed to be a creative hobby - try to come up with something yourself that is not based on another site. Jeez.
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Did you see the two other sites that looked the same? Who copied whom? I think Miss Tiina needs to come up with something original, don't you
Tina of SHCO emailed Loreta of DSB with this email:
"Hi, just stopped by the site and was a little shocked ... May I ask how come it looks so much like all my ideas for my site? (Cupcakes, same kind of background etc.) http://www.sugarhillco.com"
A friend sells at DSB and was telling me all about it. Drama everywhere. --------------------------------
Hi shilo!!!!! You backstabbing bitch. I know its you. You're in both store you're just trying to cause drama.
I read here and I have no problem admitting that but that post wasn't posted by me. If you wanna think it was, then you're entitled to that. There's alot of comments that weren't posted, not just mine. Because I am in both stores why would I want those 2 stores feuding? If everyone wants to see my comment in the thread... I have no problem posting it myself. My comment was almost at the end of the thread so perhaps that's why it wasn't posted?
My comment... to which Loreta replied and said that we shouldn't worry about her being mad at us for stating our opinions.
Ok please don't kill me, I'm just stating my honest opinion and I'm not taking sides in this at all being a designer at both stores.
When I saw the logo by itself, I didn't think it looked like SHCO at all but I gotta admit that when I saw the whole site together I instantly thought of SHCO. The reason is the cupcakes and the gray & white background and the fact that the logo was in the top left corner just like SHCO and everything else was the same too. BUT I think only someone who frequents both stores would notice something like this and I figured not everyone would think that. I don't think you copied Tina, I just think it's a coincidence. But if I thought it looked like SHCO when I saw it, and other people did too, then that means your customers could think so too. And you don't want them to think you copied someone cause it's bad for business. Although, I agree just changing the background should be a compromise because the cupcakes do look very different and I think they're cute, you did good! However changing the background to a different gray & white background isn't making much of a difference IMHO. If you're going to change it, you should go with different colors like the tan in the 3rd cupcake like someone said. But again, just my opinion.
I also gotta agree with Jen on some comments being uncalled for. Being that I have access to SHCO's designer forum as well, I can say that everyone over there aren't talking about this at all or talking bad about eachother. I can understand posting a thread to see what people think but everyone bad talking eachother won't get anyone anywhere.
Like I said, please don't be mad at me, I'm just being honest. I love everyone at both store and this whole situation sucks.
There are a few designers out there that offer this service and so everything doesn't come down to copying or a conspiracy theory. But, boy if anyone can point fingers it's the people on this blog.
May 2, 2011 1:49 PM ------
Huh? Pointing fingers while condemning pointing fingers.
May 2, 2011 6:07 PM
I didn't condemn anyone. Just stated a fact and obviously you have to turn it around so you can point a finger at me-typical response.
WOW!! I'm sure the owner of DSB would LOVE to know that one of their designers is doing a copy/paste from their PRIVATE designer area into a smack blog. Especially comments that are so bad from other designers. That does make me look at those other designers a bit ehh. Whether or not I like Tina isnt the issue there. But I do agree, the 2 sites are way too alike for one to not be copying the other. And I have no idea what sugar/sweets has to do with scrapping..?????
Shilo I am not surprised that's you posting. Funny how you "forgot" to log in. You're pathetic. How you got into ANY "big" stores is beyond me. Then again, whenever I see your name I think of the post you made in the DST DCR about Laura Banasiak whining about friends becoming "big designers" and dropping their "old friends". I am by no means a fan of Laura Banasiak (commonly referred to as simply.crap by me due to her bad attitude) but for you to whine so publicly was beyond being annoying and moved into downright pathetic. Maybe she dropped you because you are a whiny backstabbing brat?
The Sweet Shop is also digiscrapping and "sweet" themed. So ? Not every digiscrap store/site has a scrap only theme. How about Pickleberry? Funky Playground? Lilypad? A CHerry on Top? Wool Sweater Street? Many digital scrap sites have OUTSIDE themes.
Oh please Shilo. Save it for someone dumb. It is so obvious it was you. You can say "a lot of comments were left out not just mine" all you want. That was probably planned out. You were too busy copying and pasting comments here for you to comment in the thread any earlier. I really hope Loreta and Tiina see this so they can see how untrustworthy and immature you are. You will forever be frowned upon by me because of this. I hope you're proud of yourself.
^^^^ But if you have access to the DCR at DST, it means you signed the designer agreement which states that you should keep the information private. So, it is just as shady since you (whoever the "you" is) go against something you agreed on.
Kasia Designs: http://kasiadesigns.net/shop/index.p...\u003dindex&cPath\u003d1 W & W Designs: http://weedsandwildflowersdesign.com/shoppe/
--- I don't think those 2 sites look anything like sugar hill co. They both have headers across the top with links under the header. The use of hand written headers and/or a heart doesn't make them like it either.
As far as http://store.digiscrappersbrasil.com.br/ goes I think it's cuter than sugar hill. The placement of the logo and links is similar but that's the only thing I notice. The cupcakes are cuter, the center part is white but most scrapbook sites are, the footer is straight unlike sugar hill, and on and on. Why is it such a big deal anyway? People are going to shop where they like the designs more regardless of the placement of their logo or if it's cupcakes or not.
oh and ps - I think Queen of Hearts' stuff is fugly. ------
Personal for you? May 2, 2011 10:17 PM ------------------------------ I think Queen of Hearts is a fugly person period. Have you seen her? Fugly is as fugly does!!!
From Queen of Hearts - "first of all i dont like Miss Tina. but thats unrelated to DSB LOL i like her CU, okay well the non creepy kawaii stuff but not her, long story from over a year ago wont get into it LOL. personally when i saw the new look i didnt even stop to even think it looked like SHCO shes just jealous that your cupcakes are better looking than her creepy kawaii faced ones cupcakes arent prohibited for any site to have as their logo anymore than the color blue cant be used to make a logo if anything tell her you'll change the BG ( maybe pink or to black and white striped, which would rock btw, have it have that retro cupcake feel) but the cupcakes stay cause they look NOTHING like her fugly ones neither does our writing"
--------------------------- Hey Carly, if you don't like Miss Tiina, why are you plugging her free fonts on your blog?
I do like the DSB site better than SHCo's site. I looks crisper and better laid out to me. But geesh shouldn't a digi scrapping site be creative and design a site different than another site. Just to show off their own talent and uniqueness. Personally I would not want my site to look like my competitors site.
On another note, I think Ms. Tiina has a lot of nerve even sending that email. I mean seriously???
And I have no idea what sugar/sweets has to do with scrapping..????? -----
What exactly does this have to do with anything at all? As someone pointed out, lot of stores have names and looks that don't have anything to do with scrapping.
Hey Carly, if you don't like Miss Tiina, why are you plugging her free fonts on your blog?
http://rednecktreasures.blogspot.com/
May 3, 2011 5:14 PM ------------------- You obviously weren't paying attention to what she wrote like 10 posts above: From Queen of Hearts - "first of all i dont like Miss Tina. but thats unrelated to DSB LOL "i like her CU", okay well the non creepy kawaii stuff but not her, long story from over a year ago wont get into it LOL.
Why do we have to go to the fuglyness of people seriously this just shows your jealousy and bitterness it's ok, seriously if we were all beautiful, designed the same then where would we be? I can post an opinion without getting NASTY about the person I'm talking about!!! Try it you may step out of the norm!!
LOL, she has about three or four kits and the rest of her 20 odd products are templates. How can she be the biggest recolorer around? I think you are thinking of someone else.
The trouble with the DSB site page is that is doesn't reflect what is inside, whereas Miss Tiina's *does* reflect what they're selling there. DSB as a store, and also their gallery, is just more exuberant, and I would think they could have a more exuberant and colorful page.
On the recoloring - download the Audrey Neal freebie from the DHD blog hop and look at her poor bows. OMG! NOBODY recolors that BADLY!
Hey Carly, if you don't like Miss Tiina, why are you plugging her free fonts on your blog?
http://rednecktreasures.blogspot.com/
May 3, 2011 5:14 PM ------------------- You obviously weren't paying attention to what she wrote like 10 posts above: From Queen of Hearts - "first of all i dont like Miss Tina. but thats unrelated to DSB LOL "i like her CU", okay well the non creepy kawaii stuff but not her, long story from over a year ago wont get into it LOL.
Why do we have to go to the fuglyness of people seriously this just shows your jealousy and bitterness it's ok, seriously if we were all beautiful, designed the same then where would we be? I can post an opinion without getting NASTY about the person I'm talking about!!! Try it you may step out of the norm!!
------------------------------ So, wait a minute let me get this straight...it is ok for Carly to talk shit about everyone else, but they are just supposed to adore her templates and few kits she has done. Carly seriously needs a wake up call!
I also agree I think the owner of DSB should be a little more concerned that her staff are talking smack on here...copying and pasting verbatim what is being said....
On the recoloring - download the Audrey Neal freebie from the DHD blog hop and look at her poor bows. OMG! NOBODY recolors that BADLY!
If you think that's bad did you check out her frame. Run a stroke and be prepared not to have one yourself. I thought people quit giving out this kind of shit. I'd be horribly embarrassed to have something like this in my stuff-freebie or otherwise. A stray pixel now and then ok I can get that but a total jagged edge and 1000 hanging pixels-no excuse.
"Run a stroke and be prepared not to have one yourself."
^^^ Ok, that literally made me laugh outloud! Thanks for that!
I downloaded it just to see because the preview doesn't look that bad. Seriously. Those are the WORST recolored bows I've ever seen. And there are enough strays to recreate the "Starry Night" in side that frame. Crazy!
"On the recoloring - download the Audrey Neal freebie from the DHD blog hop and look at her poor bows. OMG! NOBODY recolors that BADLY!"
Check out the houndstooth paper, what a mess. The entire thing is bad, really bad. If you are going to be a "designer", please, acquire some basic skills first.
It scares me how many more "designers" are out there like this.
For the numbnuts like me who had to do some serious Googling to find DHD and this kit: http://audneal.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/05/celebrate-insd.html
Haven't dl'ed it to check out yet, but the preview is icky...
The speckles in the centre of the frame are obviously deliberately placed artistic grunge. The bow really was the brightest green you've ever seen. I can't explain the brightest green blobs in the shadows, however.
The scariest thing is, I remember her name from at least 2007. Still designing and still no idea?
So, wait a minute let me get this straight...it is ok for Carly to talk shit about everyone else, but they are just supposed to adore her templates and few kits she has done. -------------
For the numbnuts like me who had to do some serious Googling to find DHD and this kit: http://audneal.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/05/celebrate-insd.html
Haven't dl'ed it to check out yet, but the preview is icky... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why did you want to spend precious time searching for something that multiple people said was crap? I would rather spend my time looking for something that others thought was wonderful. Unless that was just a marketing ploy.
Well, I'm on here, and I'm nosy (or I wouldn't be here) so I wanted to see for myself. By serious Googling, I mean it took 5 seconds to find out what DHD was and about 2 minutes to find the actual link. So I am just saving other people's precious time.
If I didn't want to waste time I would probably not bother visiting the blog at all.
I doubt it. I've been saying it for a while now. However, if you can't see the jaggies, strays, etc with the naked eye and it doesn't print out, what the heck does it matter?
Ouch, copying and pasting from your own store's designer forum? That's low.
I agree that the DSB and SHCO site designs look similar, but not similar enough to email about it, especially when Tiina is a copycat herself. What is with the two 'i's in her name, anyways?
Queen of Hearts should have just stuck to templates. More of the same.
I've never noticed Laura B. to have a 'bad attitude' in any of the forum posts I have seen from her, seems like someone has their panties in a wad over something personal.
What's the news with iNSD? Anyone find any deals worth sharing?
Let's play a bet game: which sites' servers are more likely to crash this weekend? I go for funky playground designs. Then Scrapmatters. Place your bets!
Who have you been burned by quality wise in the past and wouldn't recommend for iNSD shopping?
May 5, 2011 5:23 PM ----------
^^^^^ Britt-ish Designs has had a lot of nasty jagged edges. The same is/was with her copy-cat apprentice Sahlin Studio. I wont buy from them any more so I can't vouch for their newer products.
I bought True Blue Studio templates recently & they were horrible. I wanted my money back they were that bad.
I want good designers who have good quality in their designs. Who do you recommend?
Templates can be filled with jagged edges and strays just like kits making them bad quality. You can't see that on the preview usually.
For CU I like Inspiredbydominic, Rachael's Scraps, Wendy Page, Amanda Rockwell, and HappycrapGirl. I've always been happy with what I buy from them. Bonus that it looks like most of them have grab bags for iNSD.
Why does everyone always say Micheline Martin is so great? Peeking at her shop, I can see that almost all her kits that have a theme, like her monster kit or wild kit, all use CU doodles. Does she make any of it herself? It's not very original.
Great CU stuff: Happy Scrap Girl, Amanda Rockwell, and Kim Broedelet. Rachael's Scraps is usually good, occasionally there's some stuff that's blurry at 100%.
Avoid at all costs: Tricia Curtis, Inspirations by Day, Royanna, Wetfish, and Jeanine deOre.
9th and Bloom's site is so slow because they're doing that wish list contest and every moron is linking to every single image in the store. Not smart if you'd like people to BUY something.
I'd put my $$ on their server going first. Nothing shuts down a site quicker than free crap.
Been out of digi for awhile and thinking maybe of coming back in..WHO is original anymore? I know it's been asked before but honest to God I can't figure out what to even want anymore.
I'm so stumped and brain dead with it all that after looking at some of the top sites still can't figure out just what in this industry IS original and I don't want CU stuff. What does everyone want that they aren't getting in terms of originality? Besides the obvious NO CU items or least no CU items that are recognizable from a CU designer.
I bought True Blue Studio templates recently & they were horrible. I wanted my money back they were that bad.
I want good designers who have good quality in their designs. Who do you recommend? May 6, 2011 9:26 AM
----------------- I just downloaded a True Blue blog freebie and OMG. How can you manage to get jagged edges on a CIRCLE? It's horrible. I can't believe she sold at SBG. I really can't. I'd never buy from her.
As far as templates, I love Fizzy Pop, Nikki Epperson, Jennck, and Busy Bee. I've never had any quality issues from them. I also like Cindy Schneider from time to time. Her quality is excellent, too.
"I just downloaded a True Blue blog freebie and OMG. How can you manage to get jagged edges on a CIRCLE? It's horrible. I can't believe she sold at SBG. I really can't. I'd never buy from her."
I just had to download to take a peek. That is one of the most jagged templates I have ever seen.
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
2,036 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 2036 Newer› Newest»I just love it when people screw up, don't follow thru, pretend they know everything - make a fool out of themselves...disappear and then change names thinking no one will notice. I noticed.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/calls-15/looking-action-testers-275481/
this chickie used to go by "Scrapbookizate" - - came into the DST designer forums about a year ago, telling everyone what to do and how to do it...a real know it all. Funny thing was, she was always wrong. Then...she starts this Magazine. It was mentioned here quite a few times. She had an article on copyright, which was so screwed up it WASN'T funny. One of her editors and contributors was COLS. LOLOL.
She took payments from people...granted it was cheap as hell to advertize, but still. The magazine stopped being "published" thank God....but alot of people were out a few bucks. She was selling at Gingerscraps at the time...and faded away from everything. The chick in the above thread is her.
If you can't read the thread...do a search for AidaScrap. Same person. Man.
Wonder what crap she will pull this time around??
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I thought it looked like her but wasn't sure
yeah, its her. Her "real" name is/was Aida. She applied for my CT at one time. so - I'm positive. and the way she is posting in the DCR again - same attitude.
With regard to those watching hot topics, IF I was a store owner I wouldn't care if a designer was posting his/her opinion EVEN if a customer emailed me complaining about their political discussion.
Despite what we see on this blog, it IS possible to give an opinion and still be respectful. But too many people believe that anything differing from their own opinion is just someone being stupid and rude. So they stomp off like big babies and threaten to not buy stuff from the designers they CT for or the designer themselves. I think it's immature and really control freakish. (and I have a feeling these types don't really buy anything anyway.)
I buy from designers because I like their designs. I could care less what politics they support. As long as they provide customer service when it's needed, I don't even care if they are a total witch in the forums. I probably wouldn't even know about it unless I read about it here. Even then, I don't care.
I don't think it's very professional for a store owner posts to the existing design team about applicants. For one thing, people have personality conflicts and it doesn't' mean one person is more 'dramatic' it just means that they rub each other the wrong way. For another thing, the owner should be making decisions based on quality and style fit for the store. If their existing designs don't like someone they bring in new, it's up to the designer to be mature and professional about it, not refuse to be associated with them.
If I owned a store and I had designers say they didn't want to be associated with a certain designer because of how they behave in forums ... unless that person was really rude or a known pirate .. I'd tell the designer to suck it up or move on.
Layered templates like these:
http://www.creativemundi.com.br/store/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=1
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Thanks. ScrapGirls have been doing layered templates like that for elements since forever.
I'm not seeing the action part to those templates?
8.33 and 8.45, I agree with both of you completely!
Thanks. ScrapGirls have been doing layered templates like that for elements since forever.
I'm not seeing the action part to those templates?
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Sorry I meant styles not actions - my bad.
Layered psd templates you can apply color or a style to.
Oh and btw, when I looked at Creative Mundie to get the URL ... guess which designer was guesting? Mye de lon (or however that chic spells her name now). How does she do it? I looked at her kits on that site - not in the same league as the rest of the site at all. Again how does she do it?
Sorry I meant styles not actions - my bad.
Layered psd templates you can apply color or a style to.
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Again, ScrapGirls. I know they get bad press here but they have had that stuff forever!
Oh and btw, when I looked at Creative Mundie to get the URL ... guess which designer was guesting? Mye de lon (or however that chic spells her name now). How does she do it? I looked at her kits on that site - not in the same league as the rest of the site at all. Again how does she do it?
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Really? Looks like she fits right into me.
Really? Looks like she fits right into me.
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You've got to be kidding or the chic herself.
Most of the designers on there are original, creative and artsy. The scrapkits of that chic are not. At all.
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The word is chick, not chic.
I'm not seeing anything particularly original, artsy or creative in that store, looks like the same stuff everywhere else.
You must just dislike Mye for whatever reason.
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Whatever - did you know what I meant? Apparently as you responded.
Re-read the thread and you'll understand why I don't think that 'chic/chick' is very special. How she manages to get into these stores is beyond me.
As to the store itself .... I do think Americo has some very original and artsy drawings.
That's one designer out of the whole lot. You may not like Mye, but apparently others do.
I like her name - it just sort of flows off the tongue. Her designs, not so much.
But that's not the same thing as actively watching the Hot Topics and basing their decisions solely on that forum, you said so yourself.
April 24, 2011 7:15 PM
Never said "actively watching" and never said "basing their decisions solely on that forum." Go back and re-read it. Owners have take forum behavior it into consideration for bringing someone onto a team. I've seen it happen.
Having said that, I don't actually care how you conduct yourself in a forum. Feel free to run your mouth where ever and when ever you want. Knock yourself out!
I'll keep my own loud-mouthed opinion here on this blog where it's anonymous, and it doesn't lose me any sales.
But that's not the same thing as actively watching the Hot Topics and basing their decisions solely on that forum, you said so yourself.
April 24, 2011 7:15 PM
Never said "actively watching" and never said "basing their decisions solely on that forum." Go back and re-read it.
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You go back and re-read it. Right there in italics I point out that you never said it. However, another poster did. Really!
Well it looks like Fontbros took action and the items at these links have been disabled.
April 25, 2011 6:42 PM
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Looks like they weren't the only things that were removed. There's a bunch of products not there anymore.
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Good. I'm sick and tired of designers not following TOU's but expecting their customers to. I wish more designers would get called out.
wv: luting
Maybe Tricia should not be luting other designers work.
Anonymous said...
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I'm not seeing anything particularly original, artsy or creative in that store, looks like the same stuff everywhere else.
April 24, 2011 10:34 PM
Americo's templates look so familiar to you because they are everywhere! So the only original and artsy shop is Americo's shop! LOL!
Quite often I read something like that at the TOU files:
"Special thanks go to the following designers, whose resources may or may not have been used for the creation of this kit" followed by a not small list of CU designers.
My question is:
would it be legitimate for me as a scrapper to upload a LO in a gallery and credit all the designers from whom I have purchased over the years?
Quite often I read something like that at the TOU files:
"Special thanks go to the following designers, whose resources may or may not have been used for the creation of this kit" followed by a not small list of CU designers.
My question is:
would it be legitimate for me as a scrapper to upload a LO in a gallery and credit all the designers from whom I have purchased over the years?
April 26, 2011 6:24 AM
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LOL!!
Quite often I read something like that at the TOU files:
"Special thanks go to the following designers, whose resources may or may not have been used for the creation of this kit" followed by a not small list of CU designers.
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I question designers that have a long list of CU stuff in their TOU. Are they too lazy to keep track of whose stuff they use? It's not that hard really.
Lots of designers do that because they want to give a shout out to the people they use even if they haven't used them in that kit. For example, if say they really like KimB, they want to give her a mention in every TOU (even though she does not require credit) to draw some attention to her. I don't see why it matters how people list what resources they use.
April 26, 2011 11:07 AM
I also thought it was the no listing of resources that was a bad thing.
I think the biggest list of credits I ever saw was in a freebie download (which was AWFUL) from the Polka Dot Chicks. There had to be FIFTY designers listed. It was ridiculous! Then again, all her stuff is CU anyway so I don't know why I was surprized.
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Lots of designers do that because they want to give a shout out to the people they use even if they haven't used them in that kit. For example, if say they really like KimB, they want to give her a mention in every TOU (even though she does not require credit) to draw some attention to her. I don't see why it matters how people list what resources they use.
April 26, 2011 11:07 AM
Gimme a break, what kind of attention can she draw to her favorite CU designer, when she is in a list with other ten, twenty, fifty people? I'd say they are just lazy!
Frankly, I'm more and more coming to the conclusion that having to credit whose kit/cu you used is absolutely ridiculous.
Hmmm....let's see....I buy Photoshop and use it to make something I'm going to sell, give away, or display. Does Adobe demand that I credit the use of their product? Nope...that's one of the things I've never seen listed in their licesing agreement.
So, honestly, why do these designers HAVE to have anything of theirs that's used be creidt? I'm not against giving credit where credit is due but I'm really starting to feel that I'm free advertisement.
If I'm on a CT, that's one thing. I'm getting the kit for free...I darned well better be advertising it. But....I've paid for something and now I need to also provide the free advertising?
I've got an idea for designers, if you want people to list you in credits - whether it's in a layout someone made using a kit you designed or it's CU used in a kit - how about if you start paying out a percentage of your profits to everyone who advertises for you.
I'm starting to reach the point where either I don't bother uploading layouts anywhere 'cause I don't want to have to list all the credits and be a free advertiser or, if I do upload, it's because I didn't use anything that came from a designer.
Lots of designers do that because they want to give a shout out to the people they use even if they haven't used them in that kit. For example, if say they really like KimB, they want to give her a mention in every TOU (even though she does not require credit) to draw some attention to her. I don't see why it matters how people list what resources they use.
Why should the one buying the kit think the designer of the kit made everything in it if she used other resources. Copyrights still belong with the original designer and besides being the right thing to do it's also a nice thing to do. I don't think it has anything to do with KimB getting credit in a TOU if she has nothing in that kit but most designers only write their TOU once so they don't have to change it for every kit.
I question designers that have a long list of CU stuff in their TOU. Are they too lazy to keep track of whose stuff they use? It's not that hard really.
Time is money so I don't think I'm being lazy by not having a TOU specific to a certain kit. TOUs are boring and most of the time no one reads them anyway.
I create my TOUs specific to each kit/product and I credit everything including fonts even when credit is not required. I have my TOU file open while designing and it also helps me keep track of how much CU I have used. I try to limit my CU usage. All in all I do not believe any time is lost crediting.
I sell CU though and my TOU does not require credit. I find it nice to credit and I think it would be nice if someone credited me, but I also think not many scrappers really look at TOUs.
I don't think it's very professional for a store owner posts to the existing design team about applicants. For one thing, people have personality conflicts and it doesn't' mean one person is more 'dramatic' it just means that they rub each other the wrong way. For another thing, the owner should be making decisions based on quality and style fit for the store. If their existing designs don't like someone they bring in new, it's up to the designer to be mature and professional about it, not refuse to be associated with them.
If I owned a store and I had designers say they didn't want to be associated with a certain designer... I'd tell the designer to suck it up or move on.
April 24, 2011 8:45 PM
Agreed. Some designers already on a site might not personally care for another designer, who is applying at a site. Designers who are already on the team can say just about anything they want about another designer, painting them in whatever light they choose, whether it's true or not. Some people do have personal differences or personality "clashes" and to punish a new applicant by taking another designer's word for it that the new designer has some "issue" is completely unfair. The "accused" never even has a chance to defend herself or prove any allegations untrue.
Also agree that designers need to be professional and mature about working with other designers, and grown-up enough to put aside their petty differences or disagreements.
If store owner is making her decisions taking other designer's word for it, she could be missing out on a fantastic designer based on other designers jealousies or other personal conflicts, and not making fair and wise decision based on talent and quality work, as it should be.
wv = nothing. I think making reference to the word verification thing is ridiculously stupid and usually they are made up or twisted, and even then not nearly as witty or clever as the person posting thinks they are. Can we please stop with these idiotic things? They rank right up there with the even more ridiculous and unoriginal "kettle/pot" comments.
When I thought about becoming a designer (damn glad I decided against it) I had one TOU file and then I had a CREDITS file that was kit specific. The CREDITS file listed all my resources, fonts, brushes, textures, etc. This was the day before CU products but if I had used any I would have listed them there.
wv = nothing. I think making reference to the word verification thing is ridiculously stupid and usually they are made up or twisted, and even then not nearly as witty or clever as the person posting thinks they are. Can we please stop with these idiotic things? They rank right up there with the even more ridiculous and unoriginal "kettle/pot" comments.
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I disagree, I find the wv comments cute and funny and add a little bit of lightness at the end of a post.
Add me to the list that believes the word verification posts are silly and a waste of space.
If store owner is making her decisions taking other designer's word for it, she could be missing out on a fantastic designer based on other designers jealousies or other personal conflicts, and not making fair and wise decision based on talent and quality work, as it should be.
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I see nothing wrong with an owner asking the existing designers for their opinions on potential applicants. The more input the owner gets the higher chance of getting a group of designers that work well together.
I would hope that a store owner would not make her decision solely based on what another designer says. There would be a lot of other factors to consider. The applicants talent, reputation in the community, the designers style, responsiveness to emails, etc.
But on the other hand, I wouldn't hire the most talented designer if her personality was such that it would cause discord amongst an already established group.
I used to list every designer's CU that I had ever used in my TOU. I thought it was nice to list them all and I didn't make a specific TOU for every kit. Now (a year later)I don't list anything and I don't buy from someone who either demands credit or won't allow freebies.
I also don't ask for credit from scrappers when they post in a gallery (changed my TOU to that effect also). They shouldn't have to advertise for me.
Amazing how my attitude has changed over 1 year in so many areas but I've learned a lot. Too bad I can't start a thread on DST that would spell out the real truths about this industry or my real feelings. But since I can't, I'm going to list a few.
1. I'm sick of having to leave 'love' in the gallery (not dst) on a certain amount of layouts. Some are so bad that honestly, there isn't much I can say that's positive.
2. It pisses me off when I leave a comment about a photo and the scrapper used a stock photograph. Wish I would have known, as I would have passed them over.
3. I feel that store owners put the majority of the advertising burden on us and that sucks.
4. Sick of hearing the same old crap regarding CU. Scrappers don't care as long as they haven't seen it in 5 other kits and you've made something new out of it.
Sorry - but had to get some of that off my chest.
3. I feel that store owners put the majority of the advertising burden on us and that sucks.
4. Sick of hearing the same old crap regarding CU. Scrappers don't care as long as they haven't seen it in 5 other kits and you've made something new out of it.
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I couldn't agree more with these two statements. Sometimes, I feel like I'm paying for the privilege to advertise for someone.
As far as the CU...I frankly don't care if it's used or not. As long as it looks different, that's all I really cared about.
And to segue just a bit...I also don't care if the same ribbon, bow, etc. is in there five times recolored. Yeah, I know, most people can recolor and I, personally, can do that quite well. You know what, though, I don't really feel like taking the time if it's already going to come recolored in the kit.
For the designers who don't use CU or put in the same item recolored...bully for you. It does NOT mean you've got a better product or that I'm going to run to buy it. I'm going to spend my money buying what I like 'cause, in the end, it's only my tastes that really count and effect what I spend my money one.
1. I'm sick of having to leave 'love' in the gallery (not dst) on a certain amount of layouts. Some are so bad that honestly, there isn't much I can say that's positive.
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Don't suppose you could leave a little "tough love" and point out where they went wrong. It could be interesting. *LOL*
Seriously, that's one of the problems that I have with commenting in the galleries. It seems it's become declasse to leave anything approaching constructive criticism. How is someone supposed to ever improve? Although, I guess some people don't want to improve and think they're already geniuses at what they're doing.
I see nothing wrong with an owner asking the existing designers for their opinions on potential applicants. The more input the owner gets the higher chance of getting a group of designers that work well together.
I would hope that a store owner would not make her decision solely based on what another designer says. There would be a lot of other factors to consider. The applicants talent, reputation in the community, the designers style, responsiveness to emails, etc.
But on the other hand, I wouldn't hire the most talented designer if her personality was such that it would cause discord amongst an already established group.
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Agreed. One of the stores I worked in, the owner would ask us, the current designers, about any applicants. However, ultimately, she would make up her own mind.
Americo's templates look so familiar to you because they are everywhere! So the only original and artsy shop is Americo's shop! LOL!
April 26, 2011 6:16 AM
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Yeah, it's still only one designer in the whole store, instead of every designer in the store. Plus I don't think Americo's templates are all that in the first place. Not bad, but nothing special either.
1. I'm sick of having to leave 'love' in the gallery (not dst) on a certain amount of layouts. Some are so bad that honestly, there isn't much I can say that's positive.
2. It pisses me off when I leave a comment about a photo and the scrapper used a stock photograph. Wish I would have known, as I would have passed them over.
3. I feel that store owners put the majority of the advertising burden on us and that sucks.
4. Sick of hearing the same old crap regarding CU. Scrappers don't care as long as they haven't seen it in 5 other kits and you've made something new out of it.
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1. Never had to do this, where do you have to do this and who says you do?
2. Who cares? If it's still a good photo, although I find that most of the time it's pretty damn obvious it's stock.
3. It's your business, don't you care enough to advertise it?
4. It's not what you use, but how you use it. Scrappers do care if it's used badly, no matter what you might think.
And to segue just a bit...I also don't care if the same ribbon, bow, etc. is in there five times recolored. Yeah, I know, most people can recolor and I, personally, can do that quite well. You know what, though, I don't really feel like taking the time if it's already going to come recolored in the kit.
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I don't really care either, my problem is that most of the time, the recoloring has been done really badly. If the designer is going to recolor, do a good job, don't just adjust the hue/saturation, it requires more than that. Yes, it really does.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/what-you-buying-nsd-275663/
I'm betting 90% of those who respond with what they're "going to buy" will really be CT members pimping the stuff they already got for free. That's what those threads always turne into...a giant pimp-fest.
WTH is up with SO it's been down several hours. Anyone know?
What do the {} mean around some of the designers names in the shop at SugarHill? Some designers have 2, some have 1, and some have none. I'm sure it's to differentiate them but how and why? Ya, I'm nosy.
WTH is up with SO it's been down several hours. Anyone know?
April 27, 2011 12:04 PM
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They were/are doing some upgrades.
WTH is up with SO it's been down several hours. Anyone know?
April 27, 2011 12:04 PM
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The site is fine but I know the store is closed. There is some error they are trying to fix from what I gather in the forums.
What do the {} mean around some of the designers names in the shop at SugarHill? Some designers have 2, some have 1, and some have none. I'm sure it's to differentiate them but how and why? Ya, I'm nosy.
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The people with 2 are totally exclusive and the people with 1 aren't exclusive to SHCO with their kits but their CU is exclusive to SHCO.
The people with 2 are totally exclusive and the people with 1 aren't exclusive to SHCO with their kits but their CU is exclusive to SHCO.
April 27, 2011 2:07 PM
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Oh, that makes sense. Thank you.
Huh?
http://www.littledreamerdesigns.com/
well geez, I must be half asleep - what I said was about little dreamer...they just closed, right?
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yay, anon posts are back.
Well I know that one of the comments that got deleted was someone named Karin saying that LDD closing and then reopening was one way to get rid of your designers.
Was that right Karin?
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Yep, and ...
Divine's switching servers again ... I wonder how smoothly this one will go!
seriously?!
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1339173
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well, I got a laugh out of it anyway....whatever floats the "artists" boat I guess.
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I love the look on the model's face, like she's surprised they are there!
There's a pair of gallery stand outs if I ever saw them.
LOL
While I'm far from being a prude, I really don't think that sort of layout should be allowed. Most sites are supposed to be "family friendly" and kids look through the galleries. I don't usually like the use of stock photos on any layout but why make a layout of someone else's tits anyway? It seems rather pointess to me (excuse the pun) LOL
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there's nothing wrong with that LO, her boobs are covered up. While not exactly family friendly, it's not exactly family unfriendly either. I've seen more cleavage at the mall.
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Right, but why on earth would someone want to make a layout using that type of photo if it's not even them? Very strange.
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Agreed, it is very strange.
LOL! thought I'd see what else she had in her gallery .. yikes, at first glance, I read "Anal Fantasy". Sheesh.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1339171&title=mask-by-jesskitl&cat=all
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Weird. She has some 'normal' pages in her gallery, I don't know why she doesn't stick to those.
Yeah, her boobs are covered........ by sheer fabric that shows her nipples. May as well be naked. Not necessary and even less so as it's a stock photo.
LOL
While I'm far from being a prude, I really don't think that sort of layout should be allowed. Most sites are supposed to be "family friendly" and kids look through the galleries. I don't usually like the use of stock photos on any layout but why make a layout of someone else's tits anyway? It seems rather pointess to me (excuse the pun) LOL
April 30, 2011 8:53 PM
Well of course it's a stock photo. Victoria Silvstedt is a super model. It's not like the scrapper just chose some random stock photo, it's obviously a page about a celebrity she likes.
I know it's difficult for you ninnies to comprehend, but some people like to scrap things other than their ugly kids.
I don't see anything wrong with it all, although the expression on the model's face is priceless - "oh my tits are actually there".
I think kids are exposed to much worse on TV.
http://stufftoscrap.blogspot.com/2011/05/mommy-and-wife-introduction.html
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Ok, I just can't take this anymore. There's a thread in the DCR about freebies. Of course, the usual are lecturing everyone to NOT give freebies (jaguarwoman and Lucie). But here comes Digidesigncrew's post and omg, I just have to repost to see if anyone else sees the hyprocisy.
"thank you dana,
i also couldn´t agree more with your posts
i guess i´m going to stop this crazyness somehow. actually i want not to have 50 designers in my store and cannot generate a fulltime income for fulltime work just because nobody is willing to charge $$$ for their hard work.
and agreed - NOTHING is free, not time, not computers, not energy, no graphic tablet you need, resources you buy etc.
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Yet here's her signture:
Tons of FREE videotutorials for Scrappers! Learn Photoshop Elements FREE - Sign up for our newsletter or blog feed to stay tuned!
So I guess it's not good to give out anything for free unless they're tutorials?
http://stufftoscrap.blogspot.com/2011/05/mommy-and-wife-introduction.html
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May 1, 2011 12:14 PM
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The power of "No child left behind" never ceases to amaze me.
And she has only ONE kit made. ONE. How the hell is she in a "shop?" It's just Stuff That's Crap, but still.
So I guess it's not good to give out anything for free unless they're tutorials?
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Maybe if people knew how to use their program, they would need less freebies? Come on. I have seen complaints that designers are keeping their "secrets" instead of sharing them, and now, you would complain that someone is giving "knowledge" for free instead of charging?
This seriously makes me laugh
"Another thing really bugs the hell out of me - People who steal kits or anything, music, movies, graphics etc and share with the entire world - to people they don't know."
Kits, ok. Graphics, ok. Music? Movies? I can't say I know one single person that hasn't illegally downloaded a song, tv show, or movie OR hasn't gladly used some that someone else downloaded illegally. My grandparents have even watched movies that were downloaded. I hate it when people act like every move they make is perfect and law abiding.
It's how things are now which is why I don't care if my products are pirated, it's not like I can stop it. I'm grateful for the people that actually buy them and I'm not wasting my time worrying about who is stealing and sharing.
The power of "No child left behind" never ceases to amaze me.
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Totally unpopular opinion (bring out your claws, ladies): Maybe it's not such a bad thing to leave kids behind?
That complaining about freebies thing is annoying. I'm a designer. I like hearing thank you but I've been designing long enough to not get bent out of shape about it. Sometimes I forget to say thank you too.
As far at Stuff to (s(crap) - maybe she's in the store because they just had their designer contest ... don't know if she was a winner but that could explain it
Totally unpopular opinion (bring out your claws, ladies): Maybe it's not such a bad thing to leave kids behind?
May 1, 2011 2:28 PM
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You wont get any argument from me.
The average American IQ is only 98 and it's the truly stupid who breed senselessly, so it's not a figure likely to change.
20 percent of high school seniors can be classified as being functionally illiterate at the time they graduate. (http://education-portal.com/articles/Grim_Illiteracy_Statistics_Indicate_Americans_Have_a_Reading_Problem.html)
I say we just put them in jail instead of school, since that's probably where majority of them will end up. I'd be willing to pay them 3 square meals a day in exchange for a license plate and clean, sparkling freeways.
It would be better than always having to tell stupid little Johnny he's a winner when he's really an entitled, illiterate moron. Then graduating him from high school because he can't be "left behind" when he can't do basic math or read.
Maybe if people knew how to use their program, they would need less freebies? Come on. I have seen complaints that designers are keeping their "secrets" instead of sharing them, and now, you would complain that someone is giving "knowledge" for free instead of charging?
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You totally missed the point. The poster was agreeing with jaguarwoman that we shouldn't be giving out freebies - nothing really. But in her signature she gives out free tutorials.
You obviously didn't catch they irony there (or is it hypocrisy?)
As far at Stuff to (s(crap) - maybe she's in the store because they just had their designer contest ... don't know if she was a winner but that could explain it
May 1, 2011 3:10 PM
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I bet you're right. Looks like they got the cream of the crop there ...
How does someone get into a store when they've made only one kit?? That floors me.
You totally missed the point. The poster was agreeing with jaguarwoman that we shouldn't be giving out freebies - nothing really. But in her signature she gives out free tutorials.
You obviously didn't catch they irony there (or is it hypocrisy?)
May 1, 2011 3:16 PM
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Knowledge should always be free. It's what one does with it that is compensated.
Knowledge should always be free. It's what one does with it that is compensated.
That's an overly simple and unrealistic view.
Try telling any Universities, book-stores, authors, teachers at anything other than public school, any of the thousands of internet marketers who sell information products, etc. etc. etc. that they must share their knowledge without being paid.
If someone takes the time, energy, effort to put together excellent materials to educate someone else, and help the person to improve themselves or their life, the person who did the work does deserve to be compensated for their time, energy, and expertise.
Of course people can go to the public libraries, thousands of websites, and many other places to learn almost anything, but that doesn't mean everything educational or anything that passes on knowledge should be free.
the whole thread in the DCR about freebies was started by a gal who recieved a nasty comment on her blog pertaining to a freebie she gave out. She was looking for support/sympathy to her situation. The thread was hijacked by Jaguarwoman as usual - saying basically - then don't give out freebies. a response that was about half a page long, as usual. Her tag along cohort in the freebie bashing antics is Lucie, as usual also. Then toss in Tiffikat who says Jaguarwoman was being rude. The thread went downhil from there - AS USUAL. The person who says she is fed up with giving freebies, also states that she can't get her designers to stop selling for under $2.00 per kit, and is sick of freebies all together. This person is Monja, the owner of DigiDesign Resort. Monja (and her cohort Carena, who also posted) DEMANDS constant freebies from her designers. She has turned what was a once HALFWAY decent shop into fantasyland with almost all European lesser known designers who pretty much always give away their stuff. Monja made the changes, Monja is the freebie monster....and yet she is the one agreeing with Jaguarwoman. The whole thread is a joke.
The power of "No child left behind" never ceases to amaze me.
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Totally unpopular opinion (bring out your claws, ladies): Maybe it's not such a bad thing to leave kids behind?
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So how do you explain all those semi literate graduates who were around 20 or more years ago, well before the 'no child' act?
I kinda scrolled thru past threads here....this Mommy and Wife person - is that the one that was giving out tut's in PSP, couldn't spell, looked for CT people at DST, and made such horrendous stuff? I can't find the old thread here....but for some reason it seems like that gal. and yeah - she got in STS by winning in that goofy contest for the best of the worst.
Of course people can go to the public libraries, thousands of websites, and many other places to learn almost anything, but that doesn't mean everything educational or anything that passes on knowledge should be free.
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Actually libraries aren't 'free'. They have to purchase the books and magazines that we read and they're supported with tax dollars.
That's an overly simple and unrealistic view.
Try telling any Universities, book-stores, authors, teachers at anything other than public school, any of the thousands of internet marketers who sell information products, etc. etc. etc. that they must share their knowledge without being paid.
If someone takes the time, energy, effort to put together excellent materials to educate someone else, and help the person to improve themselves or their life, the person who did the work does deserve to be compensated for their time, energy, and expertise.
Of course people can go to the public libraries, thousands of websites, and many other places to learn almost anything, but that doesn't mean everything educational or anything that passes on knowledge should be free.
May 1, 2011 4:33 PM
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I just said knowledge should be free.
If you're willing to pay someone for their "time, energy, and expertise" that is something entirely different. It's what someone has done with the knowledge that becomes valuable.
No one finds value in paying someone who says, "the sky has clouds." What is vauable is paying someone to help you understand why. And the more personalization you want to help you understand that why, the more valuable it becomes.
DSB had a site makeover recently.
--->http://store.digiscrappersbrasil.com.br/
Tina thinks they copied her store
--->http://www.sugarhillco.com/shop/
What do you guys think?
Tina of SHCO emailed Loreta of DSB with this email:
"Hi, just stopped by the site and was a little shocked ... May I ask how come
it looks so much like all my ideas for my site? (Cupcakes, same kind of
background etc.) http://www.sugarhillco.com"
A friend sells at DSB and was telling me all about it. Drama everywhere.
Oh puh-LEEEZE.
Digiscrappersbrasil site is much cuter than SHC! LOL!
And cupcakes are certainly not anything new or original to digi sites. Neither is having a light-grey patterned background. Good grief.
This copycat allegation (from a designer known to copy designs from large companies, no less!) takes the cake. ;)
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LOLing here. Remember when FPD and Digichick had a similar look, and that was well before Sugarhill. Maybe Tina copied them?
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I kinda scrolled thru past threads here....this Mommy and Wife person - is that the one that was giving out tut's in PSP, couldn't spell, looked for CT people at DST, and made such horrendous stuff? I can't find the old thread here....but for some reason it seems like that gal. and yeah - she got in STS by winning in that goofy contest for the best of the worst.
May 1, 2011 7:01 PM
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She wasn't in the contest, but she is the gal that got an "honorable mention" here a while ago. The kit in her store isn't the first she designed. She had a freebie on her blog, which was crap (both the freebie and the blog LOL!), but somehow that post of hers got deleted along with the readers' comments.
The original conversations about Mommy & Wife are still on this blog. Check out Jan 20 and further on under the Happy New Year post.
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thanks. I hadn't looked back that far. so yeah, then same chickie poo. figures. well...she found a great place for her stuff then.
I was really surprised about the new DSB look - I saw it earlier today when I was doing something else. I'm not surprised Tina's pissed - it looks like a total rip off. At least the cupcake idea works with the sugar concept. Don't see the connection of cupcakes to Brazil. Too bad - I like DSB.
To anyone on the inside - do share anymore you know :)
Where did you see that she's pissed? Sucks that someone would copy her pirated works?
I find it odd that jaguarwoman would be upset about people giving out freebies. She has given alot of them out herself at her site. ?????
I think that the DSB site does look like the SHCo site. And I'd love to 100% support DSB on this issue, because I love their site and designers. Regardless of copycat Miss Tiina, copying a copycat is really just sad and pathetic.
a few other examples of store decor copying:
MooTwo stole from MissesBehaven - right down to the same striped paper and ruffled edges (MB has since changed)
Funky Playground stole from Plain Digital Wrapper.
as an insider, here's what's going on in the forums at DSB. it's a 17 page thread. here's some comments. other than this, most of it was discussing what new background to have. The old background was almost exactly like SHCO's background. she's changed it almost as soon as Tina emailed her. there's alot more there but i got too lazy to finish going through the thread lol.
From Queen of Hearts -
"first of all i dont like Miss Tina. but thats unrelated to DSB LOL i like her CU, okay well the non creepy kawaii stuff but not her, long story from over a year ago wont get into it LOL.
personally when i saw the new look i didnt even stop to even think it looked like SHCO
shes just jealous that your cupcakes are better looking than her creepy kawaii faced ones
cupcakes arent prohibited for any site to have as their logo anymore than the color blue cant be used to make a logo
if anything tell her you'll change the BG ( maybe pink or to black and white striped, which would rock btw, have it have that retro cupcake feel) but the cupcakes stay cause they look NOTHING like her fugly ones neither does our writing"
From the owner, Loreta -
"Just an observation!
I met two other stores are very similar to hers. May I ask who imitated Whom?! LOL
Kasia Designs: http://kasiadesigns.net/shop/index.p...\u003dindex&cPath\u003d1
W & W Designs: http://weedsandwildflowersdesign.com/shoppe/"
From Jassie -
"OMFG! Seriously ?!?!?! Geez !!!!!!!!!! Well ... It does look a lil like it when i think about it but not the cupcakes ... just the back ground. I agree with Carly 100%! Just change the BG, nothing else! Your cupcakes look way cuter ... not to mention her site has only one creepy looking cupcake ... yours has three totally cute ones! Man some people Will influenza about anything ..."
From Queen of Hearts -
"honestly if it was me id leave it just to piss her off LOL"
From Jen Yurko -
"Now That You Have girls gone off the deep end, LOL i have to say a few things and i think the mud-slinging and name calling is a little too much here. i thought We Were adults? acting like 5 year olds is just going to make matters worse.
when i saw the new clothes on the site today, i thought it Immediately Looked like SHCO all over again. yes the cupcakes are different cupcakes But The Concept Is The Same and the LAYOUT is the same. i think this is what Miss Tiina is Trying to convey. and i agree with her wholeheartedly. Basically - DSB looks like it copied SHCO in it's design theme
Which is not a good thing, loretta. it's bad for business. i think the cupcakes are cute But the way the site is laid Out With Them? you're Asking For Trouble.
My advice is to change the graphics as well as the background. or at least come up with a new design with the cupcakes so that the layout is different. if you'd like i will come up with a design theme for you (i just finished one for n gumdrops lollipops last week ... and I've done BZB site designs as well)"
From Janyelle Mayara (translated) -
"Loreta, honestly, I like some of CUse Misstina, but she did not admire him as a little person. When I started as a designer she came to cause trouble with me because she said I had not paid a product that was in my kit. At the time I was injured, went shopping and delete the e-mail orders, I had to prove by email, but only with printscreen Store (Funky), which for her came to nothing. To avoid confusion grew up just paying for the products again and alone. About the history of the store, I found her attitude very strange, it seems she is looking for trouble. She did not and the only person in the world to draw cupckakes! For me, a little change bg or leaving listrinhas with different colors or beads that would always look cute. About the cookies, I demand that they remain! hahaha They are super cute and not look like hers. At most, only say that the store is beautiful, I loved the colors used and the environment was cleaner!"
more comments. ran out of room.
From Queen of Hearts in response to Jen Yurko -
"i disagree! i dont think her cupcake just needs to b changed at all! she shouldn't b forced to cause some shop owner has a hair in her ass. although i can Understand the BG issue, the cupcake issue is unwarranted. maybe if YOU HAD little smiley faces on her then yes i can see That doesn't But she and her doodles is not just vectors Lo Should only change it if she feels she needs to not cause shes forced to
Miss Tiina doesn't own copyright over someone using cupcakes
and im blunt and i tell it like it is, If That makes me 5 yrs old, i need to figured out Which box lunch to take to school tommorrow
Have i shouldn't namecalled LOL though i relish when im called the B, i wear the title with gusto
idk its not my call, im sick and i said my peace lol
wants to say i do i can Understand Your points to what your Saying lol"
Loreta, the owner, in reply to Jen Yurko -
"Jen, I never said the stores That Are not similar. They really are! But there are two other stores That Are too! Look with your own eyes:
http://kasiadesigns.net/shop/index.p...\u003dindex&cPath\u003d1
http://weedsandwildflowersdesign.com/shoppe/
These stores Also Have In Their Hearts side column boxes and are in gray scale. Kasia and Gina Marie Have Also copied Miss Tiina? Or is it the reverse?
About layouts all stores (or ZenCart XCart boards) are equals! Unfortunately I Can not Do Anything about it.
About my cupcakes I do not renounce Them. Drew Them and I didn't use anything of nobody. That I will not change at all. In most of the layout."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Sweet Shoppe been using cupcake theme for several years? Are they also copying Miss Tiina??
Seriously, Tina has the balls to call anyone else on copying?!
http://berthi.web-log.nl/berthi/2007/02/alfhild_fgel.html
http://s1179.photobucket.com/albums/x387/me-anon/Miss%20Tiina%20proof/
I still don't understand why she is even still in business, or why anyone would purchase from her. She's a liability risk to anyone who uses her stuff.
a few other examples of store decor copying:
MooTwo stole from MissesBehaven - right down to the same striped paper and ruffled edges (MB has since changed)
Funky Playground stole from Plain Digital Wrapper.
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Or could it be simply that the same person designed more then one store site so that the sites are similar. I just happened to notice this on two other stores and it really didn't surprise me at all because how many store owners can actually design their own site. There are a few designers out there that offer this service and so everything doesn't come down to copying or a conspiracy theory. But, boy if anyone can point fingers it's the people on this blog.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Sweet Shoppe been using cupcake theme for several years? Are they also copying Miss Tiina??
Not only copied the cupcake theme but also the "sweet" theme. What else does "sugar" have to do with digiscrapping?
It might be easier to ask "what HASN'T she copied?"
In the end, none of her allegations matter, because you can't copyright the very generic placement of elements or common arrangement of a site, and you can't copyright using white and light grey, or using a very common design element like a cupcake (which I have seen on many sites of many genres).
If anyone tried to bring this to court they would be laughed right out of the courtroom. Well, unless Miss Tina was somehow able to get cupcakes trade-marked. LMAO! Like that will happen!
There are a few designers out there that offer this service and so everything doesn't come down to copying or a conspiracy theory. But, boy if anyone can point fingers it's the people on this blog.
May 2, 2011 1:49 PM
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Huh? Pointing fingers while condemning pointing fingers.
Don't see the connection of cupcakes to Brazil. Too bad - I like DSB.
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So? If you like it there, shop there.
I don't see the connection of cupcakes to digi scrapping. Too bad - I like digi scrapping.
See the inanity of your statement.
I have to side with Miss Tiina on this one. Way too similar. Seriously, this is supposed to be a creative hobby - try to come up with something yourself that is not based on another site. Jeez.
oh and ps - I think Queen of Hearts' stuff is fugly.
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Seriously, Tina has the balls to call anyone else on copying?!
http://berthi.web-log.nl/berthi/2007/02/alfhild_fgel.html
http://s1179.photobucket.com/albums/x387/me-anon/Miss%20Tiina%20proof/
I still don't understand why she is even still in business, or why anyone would purchase from her. She's a liability risk to anyone who uses her stuff.
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You and me both!
I have to side with Miss Tiina on this one. Way too similar. Seriously, this is supposed to be a creative hobby - try to come up with something yourself that is not based on another site. Jeez.
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Did you see the two other sites that looked the same? Who copied whom? I think Miss Tiina needs to come up with something original, don't you
oh and ps - I think Queen of Hearts' stuff is fugly.
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Personal for you?
DSB had a site makeover recently.
--->http://store.digiscrappersbrasil.com.br/
Tina thinks they copied her store
--->http://www.sugarhillco.com/shop/
What do you guys think?
Tina of SHCO emailed Loreta of DSB with this email:
"Hi, just stopped by the site and was a little shocked ... May I ask how come
it looks so much like all my ideas for my site? (Cupcakes, same kind of
background etc.) http://www.sugarhillco.com"
A friend sells at DSB and was telling me all about it. Drama everywhere.
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Hi shilo!!!!! You backstabbing bitch. I know its you. You're in both store you're just trying to cause drama.
Wow Shilo. I know thats you. I know how you "type". You should get kicked off of both sites
If Jen Yurko has such a problem with it why doesnt she just leave DSB.
Shilo, how are you going to post everyone else's comment but your own. You make it so obvious.
I read here and I have no problem admitting that but that post wasn't posted by me. If you wanna think it was, then you're entitled to that. There's alot of comments that weren't posted, not just mine. Because I am in both stores why would I want those 2 stores feuding? If everyone wants to see my comment in the thread... I have no problem posting it myself. My comment was almost at the end of the thread so perhaps that's why it wasn't posted?
My comment... to which Loreta replied and said that we shouldn't worry about her being mad at us for stating our opinions.
Ok please don't kill me, I'm just stating my honest opinion and I'm not taking sides in this at all being a designer at both stores.
When I saw the logo by itself, I didn't think it looked like SHCO at all but I gotta admit that when I saw the whole site together I instantly thought of SHCO. The reason is the cupcakes and the gray & white background and the fact that the logo was in the top left corner just like SHCO and everything else was the same too. BUT I think only someone who frequents both stores would notice something like this and I figured not everyone would think that. I don't think you copied Tina, I just think it's a coincidence. But if I thought it looked like SHCO when I saw it, and other people did too, then that means your customers could think so too. And you don't want them to think you copied someone cause it's bad for business. Although, I agree just changing the background should be a compromise because the cupcakes do look very different and I think they're cute, you did good! However changing the background to a different gray & white background isn't making much of a difference IMHO. If you're going to change it, you should go with different colors like the tan in the 3rd cupcake like someone said. But again, just my opinion.
I also gotta agree with Jen on some comments being uncalled for. Being that I have access to SHCO's designer forum as well, I can say that everyone over there aren't talking about this at all or talking bad about eachother. I can understand posting a thread to see what people think but everyone bad talking eachother won't get anyone anywhere.
Like I said, please don't be mad at me, I'm just being honest. I love everyone at both store and this whole situation sucks.
Sorry that was me ^^ Forgot to log in... just so there's no confusion
There are a few designers out there that offer this service and so everything doesn't come down to copying or a conspiracy theory. But, boy if anyone can point fingers it's the people on this blog.
May 2, 2011 1:49 PM
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Huh? Pointing fingers while condemning pointing fingers.
May 2, 2011 6:07 PM
I didn't condemn anyone. Just stated a fact and obviously you have to turn it around so you can point a finger at me-typical response.
Everyone knows that cupcakes are out, and pies are in for 2011. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/15/business/la-fi-pie-20110115
WOW!! I'm sure the owner of DSB would LOVE to know that one of their designers is doing a copy/paste from their PRIVATE designer area into a smack blog. Especially comments that are so bad from other designers. That does make me look at those other designers a bit ehh. Whether or not I like Tina isnt the issue there. But I do agree, the 2 sites are way too alike for one to not be copying the other. And I have no idea what sugar/sweets has to do with scrapping..?????
Shilo I am not surprised that's you posting. Funny how you "forgot" to log in. You're pathetic. How you got into ANY "big" stores is beyond me. Then again, whenever I see your name I think of the post you made in the DST DCR about Laura Banasiak whining about friends becoming "big designers" and dropping their "old friends". I am by no means a fan of Laura Banasiak (commonly referred to as simply.crap by me due to her bad attitude) but for you to whine so publicly was beyond being annoying and moved into downright pathetic. Maybe she dropped you because you are a whiny backstabbing brat?
The Sweet Shop is also digiscrapping and "sweet" themed. So ? Not every digiscrap store/site has a scrap only theme. How about Pickleberry? Funky Playground? Lilypad? A CHerry on Top? Wool Sweater Street? Many digital scrap sites have OUTSIDE themes.
Oh please Shilo. Save it for someone dumb. It is so obvious it was you. You can say "a lot of comments were left out not just mine" all you want. That was probably planned out. You were too busy copying and pasting comments here for you to comment in the thread any earlier. I really hope Loreta and Tiina see this so they can see how untrustworthy and immature you are. You will forever be frowned upon by me because of this. I hope you're proud of yourself.
I think it's super shady to post things from your private team forum in a public place.
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Just like copying and pasting from the private designer section of DST!
Just like copying and pasting from the private designer section of DST!
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No it's not. I'm not employed by DST.
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But if you have access to the DCR at DST, it means you signed the designer agreement which states that you should keep the information private. So, it is just as shady since you (whoever the "you" is) go against something you agreed on.
Kasia Designs: http://kasiadesigns.net/shop/index.p...\u003dindex&cPath\u003d1
W & W Designs: http://weedsandwildflowersdesign.com/shoppe/
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I don't think those 2 sites look anything like sugar hill co. They both have headers across the top with links under the header. The use of hand written headers and/or a heart doesn't make them like it either.
As far as http://store.digiscrappersbrasil.com.br/ goes I think it's cuter than sugar hill. The placement of the logo and links is similar but that's the only thing I notice. The cupcakes are cuter, the center part is white but most scrapbook sites are, the footer is straight unlike sugar hill, and on and on.
Why is it such a big deal anyway? People are going to shop where they like the designs more regardless of the placement of their logo or if it's cupcakes or not.
oh and ps - I think Queen of Hearts' stuff is fugly.
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Personal for you?
May 2, 2011 10:17 PM
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I think Queen of Hearts is a fugly person period. Have you seen her? Fugly is as fugly does!!!
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Oh the irony of your statement.
who doesn't love a little irony?
From Queen of Hearts -
"first of all i dont like Miss Tina. but thats unrelated to DSB LOL i like her CU, okay well the non creepy kawaii stuff but not her, long story from over a year ago wont get into it LOL.
personally when i saw the new look i didnt even stop to even think it looked like SHCO
shes just jealous that your cupcakes are better looking than her creepy kawaii faced ones
cupcakes arent prohibited for any site to have as their logo anymore than the color blue cant be used to make a logo
if anything tell her you'll change the BG ( maybe pink or to black and white striped, which would rock btw, have it have that retro cupcake feel) but the cupcakes stay cause they look NOTHING like her fugly ones neither does our writing"
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Hey Carly, if you don't like Miss Tiina, why are you plugging her free fonts on your blog?
http://rednecktreasures.blogspot.com/
I do like the DSB site better than SHCo's site. I looks crisper and better laid out to me. But geesh shouldn't a digi scrapping site be creative and design a site different than another site. Just to show off their own talent and uniqueness. Personally I would not want my site to look like my competitors site.
On another note, I think Ms. Tiina has a lot of nerve even sending that email. I mean seriously???
I didn't condemn anyone. Just stated a fact and obviously you have to turn it around so you can point a finger at me-typical response.
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ROTFL.
Which 'fact', exactly, did you state?
And I have no idea what sugar/sweets has to do with scrapping..?????
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What exactly does this have to do with anything at all? As someone pointed out, lot of stores have names and looks that don't have anything to do with scrapping.
I think Queen of Hearts is a fugly person period. Have you seen her? Fugly is as fugly does!!!
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Wow, just wow. I sure hope you aren't old enough to have children, but I hear that teen pregnancies are a problem.
Hey Carly, if you don't like Miss Tiina, why are you plugging her free fonts on your blog?
http://rednecktreasures.blogspot.com/
May 3, 2011 5:14 PM
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Hey, moron, she said she liked her CU, not the person. Duh! Some people can separate out the product for the person.
Hey Carly, if you don't like Miss Tiina, why are you plugging her free fonts on your blog?
http://rednecktreasures.blogspot.com/
May 3, 2011 5:14 PM
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You obviously weren't paying attention to what she wrote like 10 posts above: From Queen of Hearts -
"first of all i dont like Miss Tina. but thats unrelated to DSB LOL "i like her CU", okay well the non creepy kawaii stuff but not her, long story from over a year ago wont get into it LOL.
Why do we have to go to the fuglyness of people seriously this just shows your jealousy and bitterness it's ok, seriously if we were all beautiful, designed the same then where would we be? I can post an opinion without getting NASTY about the person I'm talking about!!! Try it you may step out of the norm!!
Queen of Hearts just likes CU period. Have you looked at her "kits" she has got to be one of the biggest re-color "designers" around.
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LOL, she has about three or four kits and the rest of her 20 odd products are templates. How can she be the biggest recolorer around? I think you are thinking of someone else.
Why would a template designer collab with another template designer to make a pack of templates? Just doesn't make sense to me.
Anonymous said...
Why would a template designer collab with another template designer to make a pack of templates? Just doesn't make sense to me.
May 4, 2011 8:25 AM
Why people buy templates? Just doesn't make sense to me.
The trouble with the DSB site page is that is doesn't reflect what is inside, whereas Miss Tiina's *does* reflect what they're selling there. DSB as a store, and also their gallery, is just more exuberant, and I would think they could have a more exuberant and colorful page.
On the recoloring - download the Audrey Neal freebie from the DHD blog hop and look at her poor bows. OMG! NOBODY recolors that BADLY!
Hey Carly, if you don't like Miss Tiina, why are you plugging her free fonts on your blog?
http://rednecktreasures.blogspot.com/
May 3, 2011 5:14 PM
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You obviously weren't paying attention to what she wrote like 10 posts above: From Queen of Hearts -
"first of all i dont like Miss Tina. but thats unrelated to DSB LOL "i like her CU", okay well the non creepy kawaii stuff but not her, long story from over a year ago wont get into it LOL.
Why do we have to go to the fuglyness of people seriously this just shows your jealousy and bitterness it's ok, seriously if we were all beautiful, designed the same then where would we be? I can post an opinion without getting NASTY about the person I'm talking about!!! Try it you may step out of the norm!!
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So, wait a minute let me get this straight...it is ok for Carly to talk shit about everyone else, but they are just supposed to adore her templates and few kits she has done. Carly seriously needs a wake up call!
I also agree I think the owner of DSB should be a little more concerned that her staff are talking smack on here...copying and pasting verbatim what is being said....
What is the deal with Shilo and Laura? Anyone?
On the recoloring - download the Audrey Neal freebie from the DHD blog hop and look at her poor bows. OMG! NOBODY recolors that BADLY!
If you think that's bad did you check out her frame. Run a stroke and be prepared not to have one yourself. I thought people quit giving out this kind of shit. I'd be horribly embarrassed to have something like this in my stuff-freebie or otherwise. A stray pixel now and then ok I can get that but a total jagged edge and 1000 hanging pixels-no excuse.
"Run a stroke and be prepared not to have one yourself."
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Ok, that literally made me laugh outloud! Thanks for that!
I downloaded it just to see because the preview doesn't look that bad. Seriously. Those are the WORST recolored bows I've ever seen. And there are enough strays to recreate the "Starry Night" in side that frame. Crazy!
"On the recoloring - download the Audrey Neal freebie from the DHD blog hop and look at her poor bows. OMG! NOBODY recolors that BADLY!"
Check out the houndstooth paper, what a mess. The entire thing is bad, really bad. If you are going to be a "designer", please, acquire some basic skills first.
It scares me how many more "designers" are out there like this.
For the numbnuts like me who had to do some serious Googling to find DHD and this kit: http://audneal.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/05/celebrate-insd.html
Haven't dl'ed it to check out yet, but the preview is icky...
The speckles in the centre of the frame are obviously deliberately placed artistic grunge. The bow really was the brightest green you've ever seen. I can't explain the brightest green blobs in the shadows, however.
The scariest thing is, I remember her name from at least 2007. Still designing and still no idea?
wv is profful - pro, and still awful?
I like Audrey, but her design skills outside of her word art have always been terrible.
So, wait a minute let me get this straight...it is ok for Carly to talk shit about everyone else, but they are just supposed to adore her templates and few kits she has done.
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What the heck are you talking about? What they?
For the numbnuts like me who had to do some serious Googling to find DHD and this kit: http://audneal.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/05/celebrate-insd.html
Haven't dl'ed it to check out yet, but the preview is icky...
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Why did you want to spend precious time searching for something that multiple people said was crap? I would rather spend my time looking for something that others thought was wonderful. Unless that was just a marketing ploy.
Well, I'm on here, and I'm nosy (or I wouldn't be here) so I wanted to see for myself. By serious Googling, I mean it took 5 seconds to find out what DHD was and about 2 minutes to find the actual link. So I am just saving other people's precious time.
If I didn't want to waste time I would probably not bother visiting the blog at all.
It scares me how many more "designers" are out there like this.
Unfortunately more then you would ever guess!!
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I doubt it. I've been saying it for a while now. However, if you can't see the jaggies, strays, etc with the naked eye and it doesn't print out, what the heck does it matter?
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Theose jaggies might not be visible, but if you use the product and add shadows, then they do show.
Must be pretty big jaggies. Yuck.
Why would a template designer collab with another template designer to make a pack of templates? Just doesn't make sense to me.
May 4, 2011 8:25 AM
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How is that any different than one kit designer collaborating with another kit designer?
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Good question
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/original-cu-store-276437/
*lol* If they're being sold, don't the CU items stop being "original" since more and more will use them?
Who have you been burned by quality wise in the past and wouldn't recommend for iNSD shopping?
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CU stuff: Royanna, Wetfish Designs, Julie Bullock, and Inspirations by Day for starters.
Who have you been burned by quality wise in the past and wouldn't recommend for iNSD shopping?
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Tiramisu has awful CU, absolutely awful.
but hey hey hey!! Royanna is doing another buy my store for NSD at digiscrap warehouse...$12 bucks of wonderfulness....LOLOL
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Starlight Designs, Rossi Designs, Royanna, Wetfish, Trisha Curtis is the worst though.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/original-cu-store-276437/
*lol* If they're being sold, don't the CU items stop being "original" since more and more will use them?
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how true.
Kristi W (I think she also goes by Scrappin Diva) has horrendous CU. I also agree with all the others mentioned above.
To the bad CU list above, I would add: Maria Designs
So who have you found that is quality for CU? I want to see which shops I should check out.
Ouch, copying and pasting from your own store's designer forum? That's low.
I agree that the DSB and SHCO site designs look similar, but not similar enough to email about it, especially when Tiina is a copycat herself. What is with the two 'i's in her name, anyways?
Queen of Hearts should have just stuck to templates. More of the same.
I've never noticed Laura B. to have a 'bad attitude' in any of the forum posts I have seen from her, seems like someone has their panties in a wad over something personal.
What's the news with iNSD? Anyone find any deals worth sharing?
So who have you found that is quality for CU? I want to see which shops I should check out.
May 5, 2011 11:00 PM
CU what? anything in particular?
Just good quality overall. I like overlays best. I can make a lot of the rest myself.
amanda rockwell and micheline martin for overlays
I like Eyeinspire's overlay's and texture plates...her styles are fantastic.
Let's play a bet game: which sites' servers are more likely to crash this weekend? I go for funky playground designs. Then Scrapmatters. Place your bets!
I bet After 5 will crash. Their freebie (for spending 10.00)is downloaded from their site and the file sizes are all large.
Happy ScrapGirl is good CU. People have already mentioned Red Ivy, and some of the designers like Cinzia also have CU (Cinzia's is excellent)
Who have you been burned by quality wise in the past and wouldn't recommend for iNSD shopping?
May 5, 2011 5:23 PM
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Britt-ish Designs has had a lot of nasty jagged edges. The same is/was with her copy-cat apprentice Sahlin Studio. I wont buy from them any more so I can't vouch for their newer products.
I bought True Blue Studio templates recently & they were horrible. I wanted my money back they were that bad.
I want good designers who have good quality in their designs. Who do you recommend?
Divine Digital
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*chokes**sputters**spits coffee all over my monitor*
DIVINE DIGITAL?
omglolololololololololololol
I bet After 5 will crash. Their freebie (for spending 10.00)is downloaded from their site and the file sizes are all large.
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They were already having problems last night. Right now, it's next to impossible to get into 9th and Bloom.
LouCee Creations for CU and Color with Caryn, both excellent quality
I bought True Blue Studio templates recently & they were horrible. I wanted my money back they were that bad.
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Honest question--Did you like not look at the preview? Why would you want money back for a template purchase?
Templates can be filled with jagged edges and strays just like kits making them bad quality. You can't see that on the preview usually.
For CU I like Inspiredbydominic, Rachael's Scraps, Wendy Page, Amanda Rockwell, and HappycrapGirl. I've always been happy with what I buy from them. Bonus that it looks like most of them have grab bags for iNSD.
Why does everyone always say Micheline Martin is so great? Peeking at her shop, I can see that almost all her kits that have a theme, like her monster kit or wild kit, all use CU doodles. Does she make any of it herself? It's not very original.
Great CU stuff: Happy Scrap Girl, Amanda Rockwell, and Kim Broedelet. Rachael's Scraps is usually good, occasionally there's some stuff that's blurry at 100%.
Avoid at all costs: Tricia Curtis, Inspirations by Day, Royanna, Wetfish, and Jeanine deOre.
KimB has excellent CU.
9th and Bloom's site is so slow because they're doing that wish list contest and every moron is linking to every single image in the store. Not smart if you'd like people to BUY something.
I'd put my $$ on their server going first. Nothing shuts down a site quicker than free crap.
9th & Bloom hasn't been slow for me. I have seen several wish list deals at other sites. I don't think that will slow any of them down.
Good CU - Rachael's Scraps, Wendy Page, That Girl for themed items
I think I'll wait until tomorrow to do any shopping, I bet there will be better sales then.
Been out of digi for awhile and thinking maybe of coming back in..WHO is original anymore? I know it's been asked before but honest to God I can't figure out what to even want anymore.
I'm so stumped and brain dead with it all that after looking at some of the top sites still can't figure out just what in this industry IS original and I don't want CU stuff. What does everyone want that they aren't getting in terms of originality? Besides the obvious NO CU items or least no CU items that are recognizable from a CU designer.
I bought True Blue Studio templates recently & they were horrible. I wanted my money back they were that bad.
I want good designers who have good quality in their designs. Who do you recommend?
May 6, 2011 9:26 AM
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I just downloaded a True Blue blog freebie and OMG. How can you manage to get jagged edges on a CIRCLE? It's horrible. I can't believe she sold at SBG. I really can't. I'd never buy from her.
As far as templates, I love Fizzy Pop, Nikki Epperson, Jennck, and Busy Bee. I've never had any quality issues from them. I also like Cindy Schneider from time to time. Her quality is excellent, too.
"I just downloaded a True Blue blog freebie and OMG. How can you manage to get jagged edges on a CIRCLE? It's horrible. I can't believe she sold at SBG. I really can't. I'd never buy from her."
I just had to download to take a peek. That is one of the most jagged templates I have ever seen.
This entire industry has gone to crap.
http://stuff.icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/24/cute-kawaii-stuff-digital-scrapbooking-never-looked-cuter/
Okay - as long as we're asking opinions....
What store has the best free with $10.00 purchase collab? Are any of them really good?
This entire industry has gone to crap.
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The entire industry based on a few bade designers? A little over dramatic don't you think?
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