Monday, August 1, 2011

New Space

New space for you.

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Randi said...

Here's my contact info
Randis.Reviews@gmail.com
(Randis dot Reviews at gmail dot com).

Piers Unhacked said...

I got the tags/labels onto the sidebar of the new review blog, as requested, so you can search by store. Thanks!

Just moved a bunch more reviews over to the new review blog, too, and am calling it a day. I'll move the rest tomorrow (just an FYI to the people who mentioned the GP reviews in late-July, etc... I'll get to 'em!). I'm through most of them, and should finish up tomorrow w/ no problem.

Simon, I'll move oscraps at that point, too, now that you've posted the 2nd half.

Randy, I still need a contact e-mail for you, if you'd like it listed on the new blog.

Thanks, everyone!

Piers Unhacked said...

Whoops, Randy, we must have been posting at the same time. I'll add yours ASAP. Thx.

Anonymous said...

Vicki Stegall - I'm a little surprised she's at this store.

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She owns the store.

Anonymous said...

Simon,

I was just looking at your Oscraps review and went to check out a few of the designers (thanks, btw, I've been shopping with Paislee Press and One Little Bird for a long time, but Three Paper Peonies was new for me) and it was a little confusing for me when I saw that you say you're a long-time Vera Lim customer, and her kits are $6.50-$7.00 each, but then you say other designers (PP, OLB, Fei Fei, etc) in the store are overpriced at that price?

is there a comparison point you're using or is that just as far as your own personal budget goes? Just wondering what you base that on? I've sort of become used to that price now at most of the stores I shop at. I know I can find cheaper kits, but I usually get what I pay for then.

Anonymous said...

Simon, you just showed your bias. Clearly, you must think highly of Oscraps. Because it's okay for 3 or 4 designers there to be "100% interchangeable" and it's obviously no big deal. But, it was when you reviewed other shops that you don't consider "top tier."

I call bullshit on that. If they aren't original, then why aren't you smacking them just as hard as you have others for being "unoriginal?"

And this is why the reviews, in general, are all bullshit. Because you all are colored by your own personal likes/dislikes/bias. It's all personal opinion and I've decided it doesn't count for much at all.

Anonymous said...

I would like to see DSP reviewed too, would be interesting to see if everyone thinks digital is automatically crappy or if they give it a genuine chance.

Anonymous said...

Any review from any person is colored by personal opinion and preference. That does not make them bullshit. I only agree with Simon maybe half the time and I'm the person that was annoyed by the overuse of the word gross before. I think the reviews are interesting and worth reading, but still just opinion.

My opinion is that you must have gotten a not great review to have such a strong emotional response to Simon's review of oscraps.

For 11:16, Simon posted this about Vera Lim: "I think her quick pages are overpriced as well. I only buy from her when items are on sale (PU and CU)."

Anonymous said...

I call bullshit on that. If they aren't original, then why aren't you smacking them just as hard as you have others for being "unoriginal?"

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I don't recall Simon smacking anyone hard for being unoriginal, merely pointing out that they were unoriginal.

Anonymous said...

And this is why the reviews, in general, are all bullshit. Because you all are colored by your own personal likes/dislikes/bias. It's all personal opinion and I've decided it doesn't count for much at all.
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So, I'm assuming you've decided this for book reviews, movie reviews etc. They are all the same kind of thing.

Anonymous said...

No, what I'm saying is: if you are going to declare yourself a "reviewer," then each shop should be reviewed equitably. You can't disparage one store for having three or four designers with similar styles, but then review a store where you shop personally and go light on them. If it's such a big deal to have so many similar designs at one shop then she should find fault with it at EVERY shop she reviews; not just the stores that don't meet with her exalted approval.

And no, I haven't been reviewed and I don't care to be, either. The people who buy my work do so because they want to, not because of anything they read (or don't read) here. I'm good with that.

I'm not emotional about this at all. I'm just calling it like I see it. It's my OPINION and I'm just as entitled to it as anyone else here. I don't have to receive a bad review to find fault with someone being biased, especially when that someone has imperiously appointed herself the authority on digiscrap quality. Weren't you *collective you* just calling someone an egotist a day ago? How does that label NOT apply to Simon or to anyone else who presumes to tell the rest of you who is worth buying from and who isn't?

You know when I might give a shit about Simon's opinion? When she stands up and reviews under her OWN name so that we can all take a look at her work and do the same. Then what she has to say *might* matter to me. Until then, she is just another cow hiding under the cloak of anonymity while she tears her competitors down and plays favorites with those she likes.

Anonymous said...

You responses seem emotional to me. You are entitled to your opinion. Have at it. I'm entitled to think your opinion is one based strongly in emotion.

Anonymous said...

That is very true. Enjoy yourself.

Anonymous said...

Not Simon but I do buy from Oscraps. I like the style of both Paislee and OLB but from my experience, Paislee doesn't put enough in her kits for the money. If you buy, do it during a really great sale. Not sure about Paislee but I know OLB has a 10% (which isn't much but helps a little more when something is on sale) discount for newsletter subscribers. If you like that style, then these are two solid choices in designers. jmo.

No I am not a CT nor am I either OLB or Paislee.

Anonymous said...

ROFL. I just don't believe you when you said you haven't been reviewed here. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it too.

"I don't have to receive a bad review to find fault with someone being biased, especially when that someone has imperiously appointed herself the authority on digiscrap quality. Weren't you *collective you* just calling someone an egotist a day ago? How does that label NOT apply to Simon or to anyone else who presumes to tell the rest of you who is worth buying from and who isn't?"

It's easy to critique the critics, isn't it?

No one, repeat, no one appointed anyone the authority here. Simon, Randi, Piers, and any of the reviewers never said their views are the one we all must listen to. They just did what they did (sometimes per requests) and so far a lot of people here find the reviews useful enough to ask for more. It's just easy as that. If you don't agree with what you've read, great! Tell us why you don't. Do another review of the same store(s) so we can all compare and benefit from it.

And, no, I haven't done any review here. I just find them useful and worth reading much more than the usual smacking here. Not as entertaining but well you can't have everything right?

Anonymous said...

How does that label NOT apply to Simon or to anyone else who presumes to tell the rest of you who is worth buying from and who isn't?
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What are you seeing that I'm not? I don't ever remember Simon telling anyone not to buy from anyone else. I do remember Simon saying some designers weren't worth buying from for herself personally.

Anonymous said...

You know when I might give a shit about Simon's opinion? When she stands up and reviews under her OWN name so that we can all take a look at her work and do the same. Then what she has to say *might* matter to me. Until then, she is just another cow hiding under the cloak of anonymity while she tears her competitors down and plays favorites with those she likes.
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She could say she's anyone and you wouldn't know the difference. I didn't see Simon tear anyone down.

I'm not one to usually say this, but you do sound emotionally and personally involved. Perhaps Simon did give you a bad review.

Anonymous said...

I don't have to receive a bad review to find fault with someone being biased, especially when that someone has imperiously appointed herself the authority on digiscrap quality.
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Really? She did? Wow, all I've ever seen Simon say is everyone else is welcome to do reviews too. Not once did she declare herself an authority.

If it pisses you off that much, share your own reviews instead of spouting off.

Anonymous said...

If you don't agree with what you've read, great! Tell us why you don't. Do another review of the same store(s) so we can all compare and benefit from it.
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Exactly! Put your money where your mouth is.

Anonymous said...

I really was not reviewed. I'd admit it if I was. I just think Simon's reviews have been unfair and not balanced. Call it emotion if it makes you happy, I don't care. Really, I do feel badly for the designers who were knocked for being "unoriginal" in earlier store reviews because the same label was not applied (as it should have been) when Simon reviewed the designers in a store she obviously likes and shops at. I just think if she wants her opinion to count for anything, then she should apply that opinion fairly across the board.

And on that note... I'm done with the conversation. As we've agreed (I think?) everything said here is just opinion. Simon's, mine, yours. And clearly, we don't agree. That's okay, the world will keep spinning anyway.

Anonymous said...

Simon's/Piers'/Randi'sreviews are just like anyone else's reviews. They are based on opinion and at times personal experience.

It's like any other review or critique by any other person. I've never seen any of them claim to be the sole authority on reviews.

Anyone can come in here and give their opinion. It just so happens that their opinions are requested more than others.

btw, I love when people who come in here and post anonymously demand that someone else reveal themselves.

Anonymous said...

btw, I love when people who come in here and post anonymously demand that someone else reveal themselves.

August 25, 2011 1:17 AM
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Who demanded? I didn't see her demand Simon reveal herself. She just said Simon's opinion would matter more to her IF Simon wasn't anonymous.

Anonymous said...

Really, I do feel badly for the designers who were knocked for being "unoriginal" in earlier store reviews because the same label was not applied (as it should have been) when Simon reviewed the designers in a store she obviously likes and shops at.
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Let's see, shall we, Simon's review of Oscraps:


Paislee Press - see One Little Bird review. They're basically the same exact shop with the exact same style kit products.

TaylorMade Designs - Very much the same as One Little Bird and Paislee Press. I think all 3 of them are 100% interchangable.


I don't really see that as flattering. Let's go and check other stores, okay? Here's one on 9th & BLoom:

Sabrina Dupre Designs - I thought I clicked Meredith's store again. Some similar color palettes here and style is the same.

Here's one on SSD:

Melissa - Seems like a mix between Kristin CB and Traci Reed.

Susan - Another Kristin CB lookalike, but richly textured. Nice kits, but not my style.


Seems consistent to me.

Anonymous said...

You know when I might give a shit about Simon's opinion? When she stands up and reviews under her OWN name so that we can all take a look at her work and do the same. Then what she has to say *might* matter to me. Until then, she is just another cow hiding under the cloak of anonymity while she tears her competitors down and plays favorites with those she likes.

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This entire statement is hypocritical.

You do realize you've just called yourself a heifer by doing exactly the same thing you accuse Simon of doing (anonymously tearing people down)(and yes, calling someone a cow is tearing someone down, unless for some reason you think being a heifer is a good thing)?

Think More - Type Less

Anonymous said...

btw, I love when people who come in here and post anonymously demand that someone else reveal themselves.
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Oh boy, does someone have to point this out every other week?

Anonymous said...

Call it emotion if it makes you happy, I don't care.
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Calling someone a cow seems pretty damn emotional to me. It's not the sort of thing an uninvolved person would say.

Anonymous said...

Vicki Stegall - I'm a little surprised she's at this store.

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She owns the store.
August 24, 2011 10:27 PM

Thank you. That explains a lot. A lot.

As for me smacking people hard for being unoriginal, I don't recall doing that. I point it out, sure, but smacking someone hard? Seems a little emotional to me, too.

I have also pointed out that being original doesn't matter to me as much as it seems to matter to others. Face facts, no one is doing anything original. Especially the woman who called me a cow (was that really necessary?).

As far as pricing, I don't think $7 is too expensive if the kit actually comes with enough products to warrant the price. Granted, I, personally, will not pay $7, but I would consider it on sale if it had lots of goodies. I know first hand Vera's kits come with lots of goodies, which is why I disclosed I buy from her already. But, I did say I only buy from her on sale. Honestly, I only buy ANYTHING on sale. In digi and real life.

I mention people as being overpriced when their previews and/or product listings seem lacking in goodies, but have a high price tag. If I have said that about a designer who really does have a lot in their kits, then, they should take it as a sign their previews don't look as full as their kits may be.

I'll say it again for the 1000th time, I do not do reviews as if I am the gospel of digiscrap. I do reviews based upon my perspective - which is the only way a person CAN do a review. I review the products as they are in the store through MY EYES. I do not call designers cows, bitches, or anything else. I welcome anyone to do a review and do not expect anyone to fully agree with me - ever. I, too, find it amusing that so many people say they don't agree, but NEVER say with what and why...

Anonymous said...

Really, I do feel badly for the designers who were knocked for being "unoriginal" in earlier store reviews because the same label was not applied (as it should have been) when Simon reviewed the designers in a store she obviously likes and shops at. I just think if she wants her opinion to count for anything, then she should apply that opinion fairly across the board.
August 25, 2011 1:15 AM

Oscraps is not a store I shop in. In fact, I was excited to the the review because I don't shop there and hadn't even looked there in quite some time. I have only ever purchased from Vera through her personal store. I do have a couple of things from designers there (as mentioned in my review), but they were also purchased elsewhere.

Just like the other stores, I have found new designers (to me anyway) that I will follow in the future.

Anonymous said...

Yes, those Modern style scrappers have some sweet paper textures, don't they? Do you supose they make them or buy them - and where?? I once read a blog post by one of them (then later in a chat with another of them) and was astonished by what they didn't know about Photoshop. Things like layers they had recently discovered. I was truly astonished.

I don't have the same scrapping style as Simon, but love reading these reviews. Here is the link so we (ok, I) don't have to go back a page in the blog here to find it again.

http://dsthofreviews.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

And this is why the reviews, in general, are all bullshit. Because you all are colored by your own personal likes/dislikes/bias. It's all personal opinion and I've decided it doesn't count for much at all.

AMEN sistah I second that!!! That's why I have never bothered with the review sites and they normally go away fairly quickly. I really like Paint the Moon's designs and think Vera Lim's are just like everyone else. Personal tastes and all that obviously show your bias. It would be a shame if some shied away from the designers you pan just on your word/review alone.

Anonymous said...

So, I'm assuming you've decided this for book reviews, movie reviews etc. They are all the same kind of thing.

I read reviews but a lot of the time I totally don't agree. It doesn't keep me from buying or going to a movie but I do think that the reviewer, especially our newpaper movie critic doesn't know his stuff. I'm a big girl and I can make my own choices. I don't need anyone to tell me what I should or shouldn't like.

Anonymous said...

AMEN sistah I second that!!! That's why I have never bothered with the review sites and they normally go away fairly quickly. I really like Paint the Moon's designs and think Vera Lim's are just like everyone else. Personal tastes and all that obviously show your bias. It would be a shame if some shied away from the designers you pan just on your word/review alone.
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It would be a shame? If you're really that worried that these reviews will cause people to overlook designers, then (a) get a grip, and/or (b) do some of your own reviews, to "save" those designers' businesses. Will ya?

IMO, these reviews will do nothing but help these designers/stores. Why? Because when a shop/store is being reviewed, everyone reading here is more likely to check out those shops/stores. In the process, everyone's going to find some new designers to follow (and some to hate, yes, but they would have done that even w/o the reviews). Bottom line is that we all have eyes, and we all have our own tastes/opinions. If yours are so well-developed, then start posting reviews. Otherwise, let the rest of us enjoy the guilty pleasure of this blog/the reviews.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^
Exactly!!!

Anonymous said...

LOL about the idea of someone reading a review here, checking out that store, seeing the designer in question's products and thinking, "wow that is really cute and I would normally buy it, but Simon or Piers or Randy says it's not cute, so now I can't buy it."

Some of you are so damn uptight, has anyone ever told you that?!

Anonymous said...

LOL about the idea of someone reading a review here, checking out that store, seeing the designer in question's products and thinking, "wow that is really cute and I would normally buy it, but Simon or Piers or Randy says it's not cute, so now I can't buy it."

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I could absolutely see this happening. Let's say one of the reviewers questions someone's quality (even without purchasing and checking it personally). You mean to tell me that some of the people here would purchase anyway, when quality has been questioned? Or when the "value" has been questioned, like some of the designers from Oscraps? I know I would think twice about it, even if I think a designer has nice kits. If I take a negative review to heart, why would I risk my money on it, regardless of how it looks? The reviewers could absolutely have an impact, positive or negative. And since personal vendettas can be carried out via this blog, it's an opportunity for someone to make a negative impact on a designer she doesn't like, for one reason or another. But then, this is a smack blog, so I guess we should expect things to be negative. Or so I've read every time someone feels the need to remind us.

Piers Unhacked said...

Just swinging through to let everyone know that I've officially moved all of the previous reviews that have been done to the new reviews blog (well, "copied"... not technically "moved").

http://dsthofreviews.blogspot.com

Every store (or event, like blog train) that's already been reviewed now has its own post (except for The Design Factor reviews and the DSA Designer Apprentice reviews... do we want/need them moved? I couldn't decide after moving the blog train reviews, of which there were MANY). If you want the others moved, too, let me know and I will create and space and then maybe someone else can help out by searching for them and moving them, I'm plum worn out now! LOL

Also, at the new review blog the posts are labeled/tagged in the sidebar so you can search for each one more easily. There's also a post/space waiting for Scrappity-Doo-Dah reviews, since someone called for them yesterday.

If/when you want a space for another store/event, just post here and let me know (or e-mail piersunhacked at gmail dot com), and I'll gladly oblige.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for all your hard work, Piers.

Anonymous said...

If Simon, Randi and Piers Unhacked are designers, I'd like to actually know their average earnings in order to determine the value of said critiques on my products. If theirs is substantially lower than mine, I'd not be as likely to take their advice, while if theirs are significantly higher, I'd put more weight in it.
Come on. This is all anon right? Divulge.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Simon, Randi and Piers Unhacked are designers, I'd like to actually know their average earnings in order to determine the value of said critiques on my products. If theirs is substantially lower than mine, I'd not be as likely to take their advice, while if theirs are significantly higher, I'd put more weight in it.
Come on. This is all anon right? Divulge.

August 25, 2011 1:31 PM

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They are just giving their opinions on designs. We didn't hire them to review anyone and they have not been elected as king and queen supreme rulers of the digi community. They are just providing opinion. It's not that big of a deal. So why does it matter how much they make? Who cares if they are amazing top designers or bottom of the ladder. It's still just opinion. You either listen to their review and take the advice, or you don't. It's totally up to you.

The amount of $$ a designer makes, doesn't necessarily determine how qualified a person is to review someone. I know some amazing talented designers who make very little money. Not because they aren't good designers, but instead because they are not good at marketing themselves.

Besides, since it is anon here, they can quote you any amount they want as their annual earning. There's no way for you to know if they are being honest or not.

Anonymous said...

I'd still like them to take a stab at it. To me, it's quite relevant if a designer is slagging on my designs, but makes about 10% of my income. I'm not inclined to believe her advice to be very valuable. On the other hand, if she's earning twice what I earn, I'm more likely to give thought to her advice. It's a legitimate request they can take or decline.

Anonymous said...

I'd still like them to take a stab at it. To me, it's quite relevant if a designer is slagging on my designs, but makes about 10% of my income. I'm not inclined to believe her advice to be very valuable. On the other hand, if she's earning twice what I earn, I'm more likely to give thought to her advice. It's a legitimate request they can take or decline.
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I don't see it as relevant at all. It completely depends on how often they put out new product, etc... NOT on how talented they are as a designer. I know that I follow a few designers who are AMAZING and have history in the industry and are viewed as top designers by many... but they have other things going on in their lives now, and don't put out new products every week. I am sure this lowers their earnings a LOT. I'd be more willing to hear their advice/reviews, though, than that of one of the "cookie-cutter, manufactured production-line" designers who churn out the same old shit every week, in different colors.

See my point? The income doesn't really equate to squat, if the other variables aren't consistent.

Anonymous said...

^^^

ITA! Also, what if one or more of them happen to just be a scrapper, and not a designer? Do you think their opinions are less valid? They're the opinions of your customers. Even if they make no money, I'm interested to hear what they have to say because (and especially if lots of them have the same things to say) they're part of this industry and the whole point is to figure out how to produce better products that will equate to more sales. Isn't that the point, in the end?

Anonymous said...

I'd still like them to take a stab at it. To me, it's quite relevant if a designer is slagging on my designs, but makes about 10% of my income. I'm not inclined to believe her advice to be very valuable. On the other hand, if she's earning twice what I earn, I'm more likely to give thought to her advice. It's a legitimate request they can take or decline.

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oooh, here's another idea for you... why don't you let us know what 10% of your income is, and everyone can compare with that? it's all anon, right? it's a legitimate request that you can take or decline.

Anonymous said...

OK. $275 monthly, give or take.
Just remember, what's relevant to you may differ than what's relevant to me. My request stands.
And of course scrappers opinions are relevant, but in different ways than designers. However, they vote with their dollars, and that's a more accurate tracking mechanism than their opinions on this blog in the long run.

Anonymous said...

$275 is your monthly income? or 10% of your monthly income?

Anonymous said...

OK. $275 monthly, give or take.
Just remember, what's relevant to you may differ than what's relevant to me. My request stands.
And of course scrappers opinions are relevant, but in different ways than designers. However, they vote with their dollars, and that's a more accurate tracking mechanism than their opinions on this blog in the long run.

August 25, 2011 2:29 PM

^^^
Bravo to you! Well put and what a great idea to ask them to provide their average income (if they are designers).

The so-called "AMAZING" designers don't have to release new product every week to make money. They are supposed to be "AMAZING" after all, right? Unless you are overusing the word, as most people do.

Anonymous said...

$275 is your monthly income? or 10% of your monthly income?

August 25, 2011 2:45 PM

^^^
You asked her to tell you 10%, right? I highly doubt she'd be making the point to ask what the reviewers incomes are if she is only making $275 a month.

Anonymous said...

OK. $275 monthly, give or take.
Just remember, what's relevant to you may differ than what's relevant to me. My request stands.
And of course scrappers opinions are relevant, but in different ways than designers. However, they vote with their dollars, and that's a more accurate tracking mechanism than their opinions on this blog in the long run.

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so that's 10% of your design income? you're telling us you make $2750.00 a month (give or take)from your designs. really?

Anonymous said...

yes

Anonymous said...

Wow. Then perhaps you should be doing some reviews and offering advice.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I'd be happy with $275.00 a month.

Anonymous said...

I can see both sides of the review affecting someone's business - but I think there are more things to base your purchase on than just the review here.

I've checked out a few designers based on the reviews here and if I liked their look (colors, themes, etc) I went a little further and checked out their blogs and their store galleries - both places where I can see papers and elements a little better. I wouldn't buy from someone just because the reviewers here like them, nor would I stop buying from someone if they get a bad review here.

I do wish that the comments about the size and the price of products would be left out of the reviews, though. Opinions on the colors, the quality, the originality - those are all helpful. The SIZE of the kit or the PRICE of the kit is based purely on your scrapbooking style and your budget.

When someone else compared these reviews to movie or book reviews, the reviews are usually about the content, story, acting/writing ability, etc. Not about the price of the book or the movie ticket, and not about how many pages or how many minutes long it is. Those things can be left up to the purchaser.

Anonymous said...

You asked her to tell you 10%, right? I highly doubt she'd be making the point to ask what the reviewers incomes are if she is only making $275 a month.
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Agreed, but she WAS asked to tell what 10% of her income was, and she wrote, "OK. $275 monthly, give or take." ...which could be taken that she makes $275 in a month (not that $275 is 10%). SWIM?

Either way, I don't see why Simon or Piers or Randy should give out this info. It would seem to me that making around $3K a month is something only a very few designers pull off. If the reviewers divulge this info, and are in this upper echelon, then it would be that much easier for everyone to figure out who they are. If I were them, I'd keep quiet.

Anyone with a brain can decide whether the reviews are valid or have any merit, or not. That part is personal opinion, too. Basing your opinion of the reviews on how much money the people make... only shows that maybe you don't know up from down in this industry. Like... if you read a review and think it's helpful UNTIL you find out the person who wrote it only makes $1?... that's stupidity on your part.

I'm thinking that whoever is hell-bent on asking this income stuff is actually feeling a wee bit insecure about themselves and their ability to see with their eyes when looking at products.

Anonymous said...

^^^

Seriously. If you're in a position where you're making almost $3,000 a month designing (equating to about $36,000 a year), I find it hard to believe that you're sitting around trying to decide if you want to take reviews to heart or not.

Rather, I would guess you just felt it would be fun to throw your weight around a little and tell all of us how amazing and popular you are, and what a great designer. Well, we're not impressed. This is all anon, duh.

Also, if you're trying to simply prove that the reviewers in question aren't "all that"... and that you're better... then maybe get off your ass and start reviewing, and stop being openly smug and conceited. Again, we're not impressed.

As it stands, the reviewers you've questioned have offered up their time to lots of us (sometimes in one-on-one situations, as I know that I've e-mailed more than one to ask for opinions, and they've been really thorough and helpful).

What have you offered up today? Other than a dog and pony show about your alleged salary?

Anonymous said...

I'm inclined to agree with 4:10. Generally, because I do not feel someone making that level of money would care at all about a review on this blog.

Anonymous said...

I don't think the person who asked for their income numbers is insecure at all. Making almost $3K a month, I'd imagine she is quite happy with her business. She asked the question because she is trying to gauge what the reviewers' opinions are worth - are they coming from someone who does well and should know what she is talking about, or not?

Awhile back, I received a lukewarm review from Simon myself. Yet, I have earned nearly $20K so far this year, so I have to be doing something right. In my opinion, it just goes to show Simon isn't 100% on target all of the time. It's just her opinion and that old adage "you can't please all of the people all of the time" applies, as well.

A lot of you are getting too worked up over the reviews. If they want to waste all this time doing it, more power to them. It takes a lot of time to compile them, I'm sure. I'd rather spend that time working on my own designs than worrying about offering my opinion on other people's goods.

Anonymous said...

Reviews are reviews. I do not see knowing their incomes makes any difference. Next thing you know, we'll have to throw our dicks on the table and break out the tape measure to see who's more of a man.

You can make absolute shit and it will sell. There is a market for everything and everyone. You just have to find it. I know many tagger designers who rake it in every month - selling neon and poser dolls.

I don't think any of the reviewers have ever stated that if you agree with them, you'll make money. Not a one. I think they're all just offering up their opinions for something different to talk about other than calling each other bitches.

I don't always agree with them, either. But, I've found some new designers and spent some money. I have my own eyes and if I don't like something they do, it's not like I sit there and buy it. The same goes the other way. If they say it's gross, I might think it's awesome and I buy it.

Use your brains. If you can't seem to find yours, I suggest getting off your ass.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^
Classy. (eyeroll)

Anonymous said...

^^^
lol. true!

Anonymous said...

You have a dick??? LMAO

Anonymous said...

(a) just because you've made $20K this year, doesn't mean you're not producing crap. your designs MIGHT be good, but it's also possible you've found a niche w/ scrappers who lack taste and/or don't have high expectations. I'm not saying that's the case... just that it's a possibility. that's why this whole $ argument is ridiculous.

(b) ITA that the OP who requested incomes was just trying to put people in their place. agree w/ PP who told them we're not impressed. seriously doubt that any of the reviewers will offer up their info, b/c I also agree that it would definitely help everyone figure out who they are. there's only a few people in each shop that make that much.

Anonymous said...

Reviews are reviews. I do not see knowing their incomes makes any difference. Next thing you know, we'll have to throw our dicks on the table and break out the tape measure to see who's more of a man.

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This is hilarious.

Anonymous said...

I would love to know which designers you think make that much.

Anonymous said...

I would love to know which designers you think make that much.

Amanda Rockwell
Laitha
Connie Prince
EyeInspire
Josy Carson
Miss Tiina
Andrea Gold

Anonymous said...

^^^^^
You know or you guess?

Anonymous said...

I don't need anyone to tell me what I should or shouldn't like.
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No one is telling you what you should or shouldn't like, so I'm not sure where this comment came from.

Anonymous said...

Well since the original OP said 'you think' I'm guessing they're guessing!

Anonymous said...

It would be a shame if some shied away from the designers you pan just on your word/review alone.
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As can be said for books, movies, tv shows etc. I think you should grant people more intelligence, I'm quite sure they are capable of making up their own minds.

Anonymous said...

You mean to tell me that some of the people here would purchase anyway, when quality has been questioned? Or when the "value" has been questioned, like some of the designers from Oscraps? I know I would think twice about it, even if I think a designer has nice kits.
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I would only need to purchase once to make up my mind, to see if what others are saying is true. It's only the price of lunch and I can indulge myself every now and again. I wouldn't go on the say so of just one or two people. The fact that you might, well ... that's just sad.

Anonymous said...

The Design Factor reviews and the DSA Designer Apprentice reviews... do we want/need them moved?
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I don't and that's because I don't think any of those kits are going to be up there for too long. The DSA ones are only required to be up until the end of September. Not sure about the Design Factor, but would guess it's about the same.

Anonymous said...

I don't see it as relevant at all. It completely depends on how often they put out new product, etc... NOT on how talented they are as a designer. I know that I follow a few designers who are AMAZING and have history in the industry and are viewed as top designers by many... but they have other things going on in their lives now, and don't put out new products every week. I am sure this lowers their earnings a LOT. I'd be more willing to hear their advice/reviews, though, than that of one of the "cookie-cutter, manufactured production-line" designers who churn out the same old shit every week, in different colors.

See my point? The income doesn't really equate to squat, if the other variables aren't consistent.
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Absolutely agree on this.

The fact that someone would even put a dollar value on talent is telling really.

Anonymous said...

It would seem to me that making around $3K a month is something only a very few designers pull off. If the reviewers divulge this info, and are in this upper echelon, then it would be that much easier for everyone to figure out who they are. If I were them, I'd keep quiet.
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Easier for who? It still wouldn't give me a clue as to who they were.

Anonymous said...

If Simon, Randi and Piers Unhacked are designers, I'd like to actually know their average earnings in order to determine the value of said critiques on my products. If theirs is substantially lower than mine, I'd not be as likely to take their advice, while if theirs are significantly higher, I'd put more weight in it.
Come on. This is all anon right? Divulge.

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Why do you care so much? What does it matter? If your product is selling well, really, what does it matter?

Anonymous said...

In my opinion, it just goes to show Simon isn't 100% on target all of the time. It's just her opinion and that old adage "you can't please all of the people all of the time" applies, as well.
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As this has been pointed out repeatedly, I'm not sure why you are saying it, yet again.

I'm beginning to see a certain trend here. Most of those who are so against the reviews seem have received a review, and probably less than 'luke warm'. However, instead of offering up their own reviews, it's easier for them to blast the reviewers.

Anonymous said...

She asked the question because she is trying to gauge what the reviewers' opinions are worth - are they coming from someone who does well and should know what she is talking about, or not?
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Just because someone does well, it doesn't necessarily mean they know what they are taking about. For instance, I could be a graphic design artist but I'm not doing that well right now due to the economy, however, that shouldn't invalidate my opinion or review.

Anonymous said...

(a) just because you've made $20K this year, doesn't mean you're not producing crap. your designs MIGHT be good, but it's also possible you've found a niche w/ scrappers who lack taste and/or don't have high expectations. I'm not saying that's the case... just that it's a possibility. that's why this whole $ argument is ridiculous.

(b) ITA that the OP who requested incomes was just trying to put people in their place. agree w/ PP who told them we're not impressed.
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Agreed.

Anonymous said...

You have a dick??? LMAO
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Seeing as how most everyone talks about having balls ... they do kinda go together.

Anonymous said...

Amanda Rockwell
Laitha
Connie Prince
EyeInspire
Josy Carson
Miss Tiina
Andrea Gold

^^^^
Interesting, thanks. But who the heck is Josy Carson? I may have to hit Google.

I'd also add Traci Reed and Kristin CB.

Anonymous said...

Josy Carson...?

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Probably the OP

Anonymous said...

My name is no where on that list and with regular releases, I easily made $2000/month. I think if you find the right store with customers who want your products, you will do well regardless.

I would be surprised if anyone outside of a "top" shop or anyone that doesn't also sell CU pulls in $3000 or more a month, though.

Not that $2750 isn't a good amount of money/month, but it's certainly not enough to come on this blog like your shit doesn't stink.

Anonymous said...

seriously...Josy Carson...just googled and unless I googled the wrong person I don't think so. To put her on par with any of the others seems well a tad out of place IMO

Anonymous said...

http://magical-scraps.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_15

Anonymous said...

^^^^^
So? I think it is ok.

Anonymous said...

That's Josy Carson.

Anonymous said...

Josy's stuff is ok. Just ok. There is NO way she is pulling down that amount of cash.

Anonymous said...

A lot of you are getting too worked up over the reviews. If they want to waste all this time doing it, more power to them. It takes a lot of time to compile them, I'm sure. I'd rather spend that time working on my own designs than worrying about offering my opinion on other people's goods.
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Right, for sure. Why not get off this blog then and work on your designs and stop offering your opinion on other people's goods, which in this case are the reviews.

Anonymous said...

Josy's stuff is ok. Just ok. There is NO way she is pulling down that amount of cash.
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and you aren't disputing any of the other names on that list? Not a one is anything special. I don't know how Josy got on that list either, but all the names mentioned so far don't stand out for me.

Anonymous said...

DSP looks like is doing a blog train, if you want to review their designs, now is a good time.

Anonymous said...

Do you think being a CU designer is really profitable? Like more than $2500 per month profitable??

Anonymous said...

^^^^

More so now than before. I see so much CU being used by designers.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thedigichick.com/shop/Hard-Words.html

Seriously? Ugly hand written words for $4.50 even on sale at $3.15 that's too high.

Anonymous said...

Do you think being a CU designer is really profitable? Like more than $2500 per month profitable??

I don't know too many CU designers making this kind of money. I mean really? In this kind of market? Funniest thing I've read lately.

Anonymous said...

^^^^

but you have no trouble believing a kit designer is making that kind of money?

Anonymous said...

Do you think being a CU designer is really profitable? Like more than $2500 per month profitable??

I don't know too many CU designers making this kind of money. I mean really? In this kind of market? Funniest thing I've read lately.
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You'd be surprised, then... and really, really wrong. I sell CU and kits, and easily make 3x as much on CU without half the work. I will bet you that Miss Tiina is bringing in at least $3K a month, if not more. Probably more.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thedigichick.com/shop/Hard-Words.html

Seriously? Ugly hand written words for $4.50 even on sale at $3.15 that's too high.
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She even spelled "having" incorrectly.

Anonymous said...

http://www.thedigichick.com/shop/Hard-Words.html

Seriously? Ugly hand written words for $4.50 even on sale at $3.15 that's too high.
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I thought the same exact thing when I saw this. If I'd been the one to make this, it would be $2 tops (with a CU license, no less) and WAAAY cuter. There's nothing remotely cute about that handwriting. Really odd product.

Anonymous said...

She even spelled "having" incorrectly.
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Um, no. She didn't. It's just that her handwriting is so weird/bad that it looks like a U instead of a V. But it says "having". I'll give her that (you honestly think she believes that "having" is spelled "hauing?" come on).

Anonymous said...

She even spelled "having" incorrectly.
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Um, no. She didn't. It's just that her handwriting is so weird/bad that it looks like a U instead of a V. But it says "having". I'll give her that (you honestly think she believes that "having" is spelled "hauing?" come on).

*ROFL* She has just got appalling handwriting!

Anonymous said...

Ugh. The brush seems to be a different thickness, unless she only resized some of them. I hate when stroke sizes don't match.

Anonymous said...

I would love to see a review of SM!

Anonymous said...

http://www.thedigichick.com/shop/Hard-Words.html

Seriously? Ugly hand written words for $4.50 even on sale at $3.15 that's too high.
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I kinda like them, but it is over priced for what it is.

Anonymous said...

Wow...can't believe how dead this place has gotten.

Anonymous said...

I know. I'm desperate for some gossip and some reviews!

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^

Get a life.

Anonymous said...

Oh give me a break, I was kidding. Besides, you're here too.

Anonymous said...

^^^^ But I wasn't the one complaining or looking for gossip.

Anonymous said...

You come to a smack blog but you're not looking for gossip? OK....

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^
LOL

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^

Get a life.
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Get a new line.

Anonymous said...

You come to a smack blog but you're not looking for gossip? OK....
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No I want to know who's pirating, what stores are hot, etc. I don't need to read gossip, there's been too much of that on there - too many women have been hurt by the things that are being said here. Even if some on here don't believe in Karma, it will catch up with you.

Anonymous said...

^^^^

Stop with the Karma shit, please! The fact that you are here has already hurt your Karma, proving that you don't have a clue about what you are talking.

If you want to know what store is hot, got to DST.

I've been talked about here, was I hurt? No and you know why? Because this is just a bunch of anons who don't matter in the real scheme of things. It's what my family and friends think of me that counts. Some people just need to be accepted by everyone, they need to get over that, and real quick.

Anonymous said...

So since you've been smacked here your OK with smacking others?

Anonymous said...

^^^^

Did I say that? No, I didn't. Why ask the question? The world is in shades of grey, not in black and white.

Anonymous said...

Mye have a new exclusive freebie on her facebook and I was curious to look at it after everything I have read here. This is just f***ing ridiculous how bad it is. Major gamut problem, missing pixels, blurry elements, on one paper you see line at the edges.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^
The sea shell is horribly blurry. I didn't see any other major issues at my quick glance other than just being ugly.

Anonymous said...

Those are minor gamut problems at best. Major gamut problems would mean the majority of the flowers were out of gamut. I didn't look at the rest.

Anonymous said...

Gamut really isn't as big a deal as a lot of you make it out to be. I've printed many, many items that are supposedly 'out of gamut' and they print just fine. And no, I'm not mye just someone who has an opinion.

Anonymous said...

Congrats on the new hall of fame reviews site. If anyone remembers in the early days of DST it was taboo to even suggest a review site of designers or stores.

Anonymous said...

^^^
sarcasm? or seriousness? can't tell if you actually like the idea, or if you're being sarcastic and smacking it. so hard to tell here on this blog... ;-)

Anonymous said...

If anyone remembers in the early days of DST it was taboo to even suggest a review site of designers or stores.
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Yes I do and no it wasn't. The issue with the review was whether or not it would be impartial etc.

Anonymous said...

Gamut really isn't as big a deal as a lot of you make it out to be.
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I agree, it isn't. It's just the new trendy thing to say in digi scrap with designers to make them look knowledgeable.

Anonymous said...

I can't find the FB freebie on Mye's page, where is it?

Anonymous said...

What I remember was that it was assumed that someone with an ax to grind would leave an unfavorable review & ruin a designer.
Also DST did not want the liability of it.

Anonymous said...

Gamut really isn't as big a deal as a lot of you make it out to be.
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I agree, it isn't. It's just the new trendy thing to say in digi scrap with designers to make them look knowledgeable.

August 28, 2011 5:47 PM

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It can be a big deal if something is really out of gamut. If it's just a little out of gamut it is not a big deal.

Anonymous said...

Yes I do and no it wasn't. The issue with the review was whether or not it would be impartial etc.
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That's still the issue but it's worse here because not only do we not know if the review is impartial, we don't even know who's doing the reviews.

Anonymous said...

I can't find the FB freebie on Mye's page, where is it?

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Click the Exclusive link under her profile banner.

Anonymous said...

^^^

I did and all I see is a picture of her daugther and an ad.

Anonymous said...

That's still the issue but it's worse here because not only do we not know if the review is impartial, we don't even know who's doing the reviews.
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Not really as nothing really bad has been said yet.

Anonymous said...

Yeah you try buying something that's yellow or red and then it prints out as brown or shit green and we'll see how gamut isn't an issue. Gamut has always been an issue when it comes to print design that's why they address it in actual design classes. It's not new just new to scrap designers.

Anonymous said...

There is no such thing as an impartial review. Not here, not in movies, not in food, not anywhere. Everyone has preference and personal taste. At least I can say some of the reviews I've seen here have included a "Not my style, but seems to be ok" once in a while. Which says a lot about whoever is giving the opinion.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^

That's true BUT the reviewers always post their name to the review so we, the reader, are made aware of where that person is coming from - literally and figuratively. It's never anon!!

Anonymous said...

It's not new just new to scrap designers.
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No one said it was. I said it was the new trendy thing for digi scrappers and designers to say. Like they only just discovered it.

Anonymous said...

That's true BUT the reviewers always post their name to the review so we, the reader, are made aware of where that person is coming from - literally and figuratively. It's never anon!!


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When they use a pen name it is. You have no clue who is reviewing. Simon and co are just using pen names.

Anonymous said...

Yeah you try buying something that's yellow or red and then it prints out as brown or shit green and we'll see how gamut isn't an issue
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No one said it wasn't an issue. Some said it was just wasn't as a big a deal as some people make it out to be. Especially if it's only out a little bit.

Anonymous said...

That's true BUT the reviewers always post their name to the review so we, the reader, are made aware of where that person is coming from - literally and figuratively. It's never anon!!
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Um, wrong. All reviews are basically anon. Like, unless you actually know the movie reviewer himself, it's just some stranger offering opinions about what you will/won't like. Do you know Roger Ebert? Would you take his opinion to have more "merit" because it's got a name behind it, instead of a random review you read online? You're an idiot if you say "yes". Same goes for reviews at online stores (Target, Amazon, etc.)... you don't know ANY of those people, I will bet. But you read their reviews and use them to decide what to buy. Myself, I read those reviews and as long as I have read a lot of them and they're all generally saying the same thing... well, THEN I believe I have some good info to go on. That's all that's happening here on this blog, people. The more reviews that get posted, the more accurate the "overall picture" becomes. This is not a bad thing. Keep the reviews coming!

Anonymous said...

I did and all I see is a picture of her daugther and an ad.

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Like the ad says, you have to "like" the page first. That's why it's exclusive for fans only.

Anonymous said...

Is everyone unable to get into 9th&Bloom or is it just me?

Anonymous said...

I get, "ERROR: Can not initiate application! Please check configuration." when I try there.

Anonymous said...

nope just tried it, it is definitely down right now

Anonymous said...

From 9&B facebook: IMPORTANT: 9th&B is down due to technical difficulty. We are so sorry about this inconvenience. Please email lizzy9801@yahoo.com if you have any questions.

Lizzy Reiber said...

Hey there. I was just directed here from a community member. Thanks for posting that we are down. The more peeps who see it and know that we are aware, the more it helps me out. If anyone is curious why...it's all my fault. I had an oopsie in the back room. I need to be shot. Anyone have a gun I can borrow? For the love of pete, I can't believe it.

Anonymous said...

I'd gladly give you one, Fizzy.

Anonymous said...

I'd gladly give you one, Fizzy.

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Really???????? We're stooping so low here on this blog that we're making jokes about helping people kill themselves? Totally unnecessary and totally classless, whoever posted that. And no, I actually have zero affiliation with Lizzy OR with 9&B. I just think there IS a place where we draw the line.

Anonymous said...

I'd gladly give you one, Fizzy.

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Really???????? We're stooping so low here on this blog that we're making jokes about helping people kill themselves? Totally unnecessary and totally classless, whoever posted that. And no, I actually have zero affiliation with Lizzy OR with 9&B. I just think there IS a place where we draw the line.
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My best guess is that Happy Tits is the one who offered up a gun. We know she has a grudge against Lizzy, and we know she reads here.

Hi, Happy Tits!

Anonymous said...

Um, wrong. All reviews are basically anon.

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Where do you get your information from? I've copied a link to the Kindle reviews. Most of them have their real names or at least a screen name. I didn't find any that were anon. For example, the first one is from:

5.0 out of 5 stars Kindle vs. Nook (updated 6/2/2011), August 28, 2010
By
Ron Cronovich "Ron" (Kenosha, WI) - See all my reviews

(TOP 500 REVIEWER)
Amazon Verified Purchase(What's this?)

http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Special-Offers-Wireless-Reader/dp/B004HFS6Z0/ref=amb_link_357230262_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=1AM97D29GE2CCAFGK96F&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1314836042&pf_rd_i=507846

Lizzy Reiber said...

No worries, peeps. It's all good. I shouldn't have joked about that in the first place. Instead of a gun, I'll gladly take a margarita. Sinister Smack Blogger, do you have any Blue Agave Tequila? Please and thank you! I make a mean blackberry marg from scratch and I am willing to share. ;)

Anonymous said...

Where do you get your information from? I've copied a link to the Kindle reviews. Most of them have their real names or at least a screen name. I didn't find any that were anon. For example, the first one is from:

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O.M.G. You're so dense. What I meant was: even if the reviews online (amazon, kindle, what have you...) have names attached to them... what difference does that make? Whether it's "anonymous" or "James B in Idaho" or "Glenda in London"... you DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE. Yet, you read their reviews. Same as here. That was my point.

Anonymous said...

Lizzy, you should quit while you're ahead. I defended you earlier (well, "defended you against guns") because the poster after you was ridiculous. But continuing to post on a smack blog under your real name is a bad, bad idea. Even if you're trying to be cute/funny. It's a bad idea. First of all, you've just proven to EVERYONE here that you read this blog, and didn't just happen upon it this afternoon when "someone referred you here". Dizzy Lizzy...

Anonymous said...

Um, there is no proof that's the real Lizzy. There's no link to the name so could be anyone.

Anonymous said...

LMFAO @ Dizzy Lizzy

She's posting on Facebook, so it's probably her. You'd think she'd be fixing her 'backend' problem at the 'boutique'.

How 'bout the margaritas then the weapon?

Anonymous said...

Where do you get your information from? I've copied a link to the Kindle reviews. Most of them have their real names or at least a screen name. I didn't find any that were anon. For example, the first one is from:

5.0 out of 5 stars Kindle vs. Nook (updated 6/2/2011), August 28, 2010
By
Ron Cronovich "Ron" (Kenosha, WI) - See all my reviews

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Um, how is that different from "Simon" or "Piers Unhacked"? They have a name. Oh, that makes them valid! Thanks for proving the point.

Anonymous said...

First of all, you've just proven to EVERYONE here that you read this blog, and didn't just happen upon it this afternoon when "someone referred you here".
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What proof? She posted twice? Wow, that's some great proof. I'm overwhelmed with how great that proof is.

Anonymous said...

I happen to agree. If someone says they're at this blog ONLY because "someone referred them"... then they post and leave and we don't hear from them again. The fact that she came back a while later and saw posts related to her and responded to them... proves she checks this blog semi-regularly. Pretty obvious.

Anonymous said...

Who is happy tits?

Anonymous said...

The fact that she came back a while later and saw posts related to her and responded to them... proves she checks this blog semi-regularly. Pretty obvious.
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No it's not. It proves she looked at this blog today and today only because there was a post about her. That's all it proves, the rest is supposition.

Anonymous said...

it isn't Lizzy posting, losers.

Perez Hilton said...

Obviously I'm not the real Perex Hilton. Just showing everyone who had any doubts how easy it is to fake who you are on here. Look. I even have a link to my blog!

So it doesn't even matter if Simon tells you who she is because she could say she's the Queen of Fucking England and you broads wouldn't know if she was lying or not.

Anyone can come on here and post as anyone else. They can even link you to that person's site or that person's email that's handily available to the public. You don't know one way or the other who you are really talking to.

Queen of Fucking England said...

Hear Hear.

Anonymous said...

Just saw FPD's designer call.

Perez Hilton said...

What a lovely fucking hat you have on today your majesty!

Anonymous said...

Any new reviews?

Anonymous said...

Just read FPD's designer call:

Requirements
*$50 monthly sales minimum
*Participation in store collabs
*Involvement in FPD forums

Do they think they are TDC?

Anonymous said...

Just read FPD's designer call:

Requirements
*$50 monthly sales minimum
*Participation in store collabs
*Involvement in FPD forums

Do they think they are TDC?
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I thought this same exact thing when I read the call earlier. Everything about the call, and I do mean EVERYTHING, is the same as TDC. Same basic levels for designers, same monthly minimum, same thing w/ exclusive products to the store, same same same.

And the most ironic part of all of it is that Michelle (who would have been the one to make FPD all "TDC", due to her history there) just left FPD, and so this is obviously Cindy and not Michelle.

Anonymous said...

Wow, someone just wasted a LOT of time being completely un-funny w/ the Queen of England/Perez Hilton thing. Completely. Unfunny.

Anonymous said...

you broads
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Broads? What decade are you living in?

Anonymous said...

Wow, someone just wasted a LOT of time being completely un-funny w/ the Queen of England/Perez Hilton thing.
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What, two minutes is a lot of time?

Anonymous said...

I did the queen thing and not perez and I thought it was funny. It took me all of 15 seconds. Time well spent.

Anonymous said...

well, I had a good belly laugh at the Queen of England and Perez Hilton! thank you ;P

Anonymous said...

me too

Anonymous said...

And apparently, they're telling different things to different designers at FPD. It's like they each have their own set of requirements to follow!

Anonymous said...

Wow. Sounds like Elemental Scraps all over again. We saw how successful that venture was for them...

Anonymous said...

ES was successful for awhile. Angie just got a life.

Anonymous said...

A successful store doesn't just close because the owner "got a life." Lots of people have lives. That store closed because it wasn't making enough money. Period.

Anonymous said...

A successful store doesn't just close because the owner "got a life." Lots of people have lives. That store closed because it wasn't making enough money. Period.
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Interested to know where you get your info. Unless you're Angie or Chrissy, you have no real idea. I was led to believe that she closed b/c it was taking too much time to run, and she could instead sell her products at 2P's and make just as much (since 2P's is 2expensive). But people buy there, all the time, anyway. With less marketing time required. Seems like a no-brainer to me, I would have done the same.

Anonymous said...

Interested to know where you get your info. Unless you're Angie or Chrissy, you have no real idea. I was led to believe that she closed b/c it was taking too much time to run, and she could instead sell her products at 2P's and make just as much (since 2P's is 2expensive). But people buy there, all the time, anyway. With less marketing time required. Seems like a no-brainer to me, I would have done the same.
August 30, 2011 11:00 AM

The same could be said for you since none of what you said was ever made public.

Anonymous said...

and the plot thickens.

Anonymous said...

There's nothing really thick about it. I never sold at ES, and never worked with Angie or Chrissy. I know through the grapevine (because, as we all know, the digi world is VERY small) that it ALLEGEDLY wasn't as much an issue of the site not making money, but that it was sucking the time out of the lives of those running it, and they wanted to simply have time to enjoy scrapping/designing again.

As for the 2P's info, I know someone who sells there and they've told me before how nice it is to sell somewhere w/ good traffic and not have to spend hours each day marketing/tweeting/newslettering/FBing. Didn't you ever wonder WHY their prices are so high??? You price things at whatever pricepoint people will buy them. At 2P's, you get more $ for the same thing you find elsewhere, and some of the 2P's customers (who come from paper, I would assume) simply don't know that there is another digi store on every "street corner". So they buy at 2P's because that's what they know.

Anonymous said...

The same could be said for you since none of what you said was ever made public.

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If that's the case, then how do you know it? Unless you're Angie herself.

Also, it would appear that you just confirmed what was said above.

Anonymous said...

If that's the case, then how do you know it? Unless you're Angie herself.

Also, it would appear that you just confirmed what was said above.
August 30, 2011 11:40 AM

Who said I was the OP? There are clearly more than 2 people who read this blog.

Anonymous said...

OMG, please try to follow along.

1. Someone said they thought ES closed b/c it didn't make $.
2. Someone else said, "wonder where you get your info, b/c I heard it was for another reason..."
3. Someone else said, "same could be said for you (re: where do you get your info), b/c none of what you said was ever made public."
**THIS WOULD IMPLY THAT THE THEORY POSTED IN #2 WAS CORRECT, AND THAT THE POSTER OF #3 HAD INSIDE INFO ABOUT IT. OTHERWISE, HOW DO THEY KNOW IT WAS NEVER MADE PUBLIC?
4. Another person mentioned that the only way poster of #3 could know the info AND know it wasn't public is if they had inside info... and guessed the person posting was Angie.

Anonymous said...

continuing... re:

"Who said I was the OP? There are clearly more than 2 people who read this blog."

Nobody said you were the OP. That had nothing to do w/ it.

Anonymous said...

And apparently, they're telling different things to different designers at FPD. It's like they each have their own set of requirements to follow!
August 30, 2011 8:16 AM

Says who?

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^^^^

A few of the designers there.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^^^^

A few of the designers there.
August 30, 2011 2:07 PM

What are the different requirements? If there are designers who are meeting the new sales quota and benefiting the store, I see no problem in anyone being allowed more stores. Other than that I can't think of what the issues would be?

Hall of Fame said...

Hi gals -- Blog owner here. Just wanted to make you aware of the below, just in case some unseasoned newbies wander by....

Email Received:
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My Response:
Interesting -- This is a scrapbook smack blog, not sure it is appropriate as a feature blog, but since you randomly chose to feature it, I will assume you previewed the questionable content.
I won't be adding your link to the main page...

Anonymous said...

^^^

That's hilarious.

Reminds me of all of the unsolicited "comments" I get on my blog each time I offer a freebie, from places like that damned Creative Busy Hands (and others) who are using the comment solely as a way of linking to their own horrible mess of a blog. Like yeah, you're really interested in featuring me and my designs... whatever. "Thanks for the unsolicited "ad" you left. I marked it as SPAM and deleted it."

Anonymous said...

I got that email today too and I haven't even updated my blog in 4 months.

Anonymous said...

^^^
Like I said, unsolicited junk advertising (for them, not us). Whatevs.

Anonymous said...

I guess I'm slow on the uptake lately...but I just now noticed that a few people are missing from the Designer list at SBG...and I don't even know when they left. That kid...Re Kniepp or something like that? Lilleyscrap...and Buttercup (I think she did templates). Not that I really care..but anyone know where they went off to?

Anonymous said...

^^^^

People are always going missing of that list, it's hard to keep up.

Anonymous said...

Lilleyscrap is taking a break, Re Kneipp retired from scrapbook design, don't know about Buttercup
http://www.lilleyscrapdesigns.com/
http://www.facebook.com/lilleyscrapdesigns
http://rekneippdesigns.com/blog/

Anonymous said...

Thanks! I didn't think there was anything 'goofy' about their leaving...just that I hadn't noticed they were gone before now.

Anonymous said...

Gross
http://www.gottapixel.net/store/product.php?productid=20223&cat=180&page=1

Anonymous said...

Yes that's pretty awful. I stared at it for what seems like forever, trying to figure out who in the heck designed it. What a bizarre place to put a logo. Then I looked at the rest of her shop... ick.

I despise the previews that are made to appear as though the paper is on rolls. Who in the fuck buys scrapbook paper on rolls? Awful. Just awful.

Anonymous said...

Can we get a different word other than gross. You sound like you're five, and a moron.

Her preview is pretty god awful. I think that has more to do with the overuse of scripts and actions using the same patterns and papers that she made instead of using something just slightly different to give it a less regurgitated feel. Her papers aren't previews as being on rolls. I think what the poster above is talking about - unless it was just a general comment - were the "jeans" which look nothing like jeans at all. They don't even have a denim texture.

Reasons why I wouldn't buy this kit:
Other than the abysmal thrown together look of the preview, there seems to be not one original piece in the kit. And despite being called "jean scene" the one/two elements that should be denim aren't. Also the palette is bland at best.

That's jmo.

Anonymous said...

^^ saw what you meant by rolls. How did you stare at it forever and not know who designed it? Click on a preview. Any of the ones there have her name on there big as life.

Anonymous said...

Can we get a different word other than gross. You sound like you're five, and a moron.

August 31, 2011 9:46 AM

ITA!

Anonymous said...

I dunno, I kinda like gross. It gets the point across effectively in just a few letters. I like it better than god awful, anyway (which isn't really any more creative).

However, in the spirit of contribution here are some other options:

pathetic
horrendous
disgusting
offensive
icky

Anonymous said...

You may not have liked her wording but at least she explained what she meant by it instead of just the usual one word description.

Anonymous said...

It drives me absolutely nuts when designers do not save TIF files correctly. If you're going to include them, save them right!!! I downloaded some templates from the mscraps blog train and I'm just now putting things away and every single template I downloaded, the tif file is bigger than the psd file, including Busy Bee's, who you would think would know better. Makes me so nuts.

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