I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know.
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know.
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know.
September 4, 2011 4:49 AM
Ditto.
Even if it is not in the original color it really isn't a bad recolor if the color palette includes a pale blue.
what is it with these stores having design contests?? It dosnt make for good business IMO. why would you want to make your customers more proficient in making their own product. Dont you want sales in your own stores. ? There are PLENTY of designers out there already, enough to fill any store, just do a designer call. Is there something wrong in trying to retain your customers not make them competitors...how do the other designers at the stores that have these really feel, less secure or even pissed off? I know I would but then Im not a designer just a humble scrapper...its not like they are discovering Gems that will evolutionise the digi world.. cause if someone is that good they will go direct to store owners and pitch there wares.
its not like they are discovering Gems that will evolutionise the digi world.. cause if someone is that good they will go direct to store owners and pitch there wares. ^^^^^^
well ya they would know trashy design contests are just that crap! If your skills are good then you wouldnt want to associate your name with these train wrecks.
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know. ----
Really? You only think it is but that makes me wrong? I don't care if it's the original color or not, it's crappy looking. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Even if it is not in the original color it really isn't a bad recolor if the color palette includes a pale blue. ------
Did you miss the pink shadows on that string? It's not the color itself that is crappy, it's the recolor. Geez, just because it's Flergs, it's okay? WTF?
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know ----------
Maybe I just have a better monitor or it's calibrated correctly, but the pink shadows on that string strongly suggest that it was not originally blue. Just goes to show what you know, right, sorry, what you THINK. See, you don't even KNOW for sure.
There are few designers that I would want to represent my store that take part in these competitions. But you find one with potential every once in a while. It's a rare event though.
Even if it is not in the original color it really isn't a bad recolor if the color palette includes a pale blue. ------
Did you miss the pink shadows on that string? It's not the color itself that is crappy, it's the recolor. Geez, just because it's Flergs, it's okay? WTF?
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WTF back at you. No one said anything about it being ok because it is Flergs. There's no pink shadows on that string. I'm certainly not the one smoking anything in a pipe.
Oh, I see the pink all right, but I think that's scanner light issues, not a bad recolor. And i would rather have that than an absolutely flat recolor.
What is so crappy about it? Looks just fine to me.
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No, it's a bad recolor. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm not one to be critical for the fun of it *rolls eyes right back*
I disagree. Some of the newbie designers are as good as established designers in the so called top tier stores.
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^^^^ You're kidding, right? Based on the previews, I really don't see any yet. And the palette is just so bland and boring. Yuck.
So, they can use as much CU as they want in this competition or what? For most kits, the best items in there are clearly CU. And those CU are almost 100% freebies too. Is there anyone from the store to check if they are not violating the TOU of the CU used? A lot of CU, freebie or not, don't allow making freebies out of it. I even saw one of my PU freebies in one kit. Not that I mind that much because this is clearly for newbies but what a bummer! :(
^^^^^ Well good for you. I didn't bash anyone for using CU, did I? It's all about how you use them. I just wondered what the rules are about it. I DO have a problem when I see them used in violation of TOU, though.
---------------------------------- My, my... how original and mature of you!! Do you feel better now? Or do you still need to lay down and have a good cry into your blankie?
WhoTF cares if the preview has a bad recolor on it, anyway?! As long as the person purchasing the strings doesn't repeat the so-called bad recoloring job when he/she uses it in a kit, why do you care?
I agree with PP. Seems like bitching just for the sake of being a bitch, at least to me.
I disagree. Some of the newbie designers are as good as established designers in the so called top tier stores.
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^^^^ You're kidding, right? Based on the previews, I really don't see any yet. And the palette is just so bland and boring. Yuck.
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1st person here is talking about the DSA competition - the second is talking about the Next Designer Contest at DSS. You are too busy slagging designers off to realize you're not even talking about the same thing. How do I know this? There was never an assigned palette for DSA contests. There were CU rules at DSA. And there was no segmentation by new/established at DSS.
I'd personally rather see a designer using CU to make good looking kits, than to see a designer making their own stuff and ending up with crappy looking kits.
If you see a violation of TOUs, contact the host of the competition. I'm sure they would want to know. And it would be interesting to see if anything is done about it.
There is so much CU out there that those running the competition can't possibly know every CU product available and the TOUs of those products. Even if the contestants are made to credit everything, they could leave something off. I would never want to run one of these competitions, it seems like you are just asking for a headache.
1st person here is talking about the DSA competition - the second is talking about the Next Designer Contest at DSS. You are too busy slagging designers off to realize you're not even talking about the same thing. How do I know this? There was never an assigned palette for DSA contests. There were CU rules at DSA. And there was no segmentation by new/established at DSS.
September 5, 2011 6:45 AM
__________ I am neither the OP nor the SP. I saw one or two designers at DA (at DSA) that I might follow. No one at DSS though.
I don't even think a big name designer could make a cute kit with that color palette at DSS. That's gross.
It makes complete sense for DSS to host a designer contest, one half of their store is a CU store. Hosting a contest with no CU restriction is a perfect way to drive traffic to your crappy CU store.
I'd like to know who because I don't believe you. _____________ Luv Ewe is kind of cute and I liked Chris Matthis. She was robbed in the judging at DA. I don't blame her for dropping out.
Luv Ewe may be cute, but her quality is bad (as shown in her freebies during the contest). I don't know the standings, but I hope she's not high on the list. That's just rewarding bad quality IMO.
^^^ She was in 2nd place with a 10 point lead over the next person. She didn't do great in the first challenge - but "robbed" - really? It's a subjective judging process. She was in 2nd place all along. It's not like 1st place was a spot anywhere. It's coupons for the established designers. "Robbed" is a little extreme.
If you bothered to actually download anything you would've seen that the person who placed above her had shadows and overflow on her elements and extractions that shouldn't have been there. Chris' extractions, while not extraordinary, were done far better in comparison.
Maybe not robbed, but certainly the judges have their favorites that have nothing to do with actual skill.
^^^ As someone in the contest - I lost marks for stuff that had nothing to do with my extractions in the first round. All the judges comments were that my extractions were excellent. But just because extractions were the focus doesn't mean judges weren't basing their scores off of other things.
If the challenge is focused on the extractions and the extractions suck, I wouldn't be giving them bonus points for "creativity". What good does novelty do when the quality sucks?
If you bothered to actually download anything you would've seen that the person who placed above her had shadows and overflow on her elements and extractions that shouldn't have been there. Chris' extractions, while not extraordinary, were done far better in comparison. ---------------- I did download the designer above her and I didn't see anything wrong with her extractions. Then again I am just a regular old scrapper and I have no idea what overflow is and the shadows on her elements looked fine to me.
I'd personally rather see a designer using CU to make good looking kits, than to see a designer making their own stuff and ending up with crappy looking kits. --------
You are assuming the use of CU is going to make a good kit. Wrong. If they are good, the use or none use of CU is not an issue. If they are bad, even using CU won't make them better.
I downloaded the kit after it got a positive review from Piers or Simon, I can't remember which one, and I liked it. I downloaded the rest of her stuff too and I am just not seeing the quality issues you are seeing. To me it seems like someone is just upset they didn't do so well so they are "picking", for lack of a better word, on the person who did do well.
Chris Matthews wasn't robbed. She was only 10 points from first when she dropped out. The designer in first didn't even score that well in week four so if Chris had stayed in she probably would have taken the top spot.
WhoTF cares if the preview has a bad recolor on it, anyway?! As long as the person purchasing the strings doesn't repeat the so-called bad recoloring job when he/she uses it in a kit, why do you care? ----------
Hey Drama Bitch, the original preview I linked too did not indicate that the pack only contained pink strings and that the rest were recolored for the sake of the preview. So I stand by my original statement, it's a crappy recolor.
I am stunned that none of you can see it but I guess if was a supposed 'no name' designer, you'd be smacking her to hell and back. Such hypocrisy. I've seen others smacked for crap quality for less offensive than this.
I see the pinkish hue on parts of the close-up view of the blue string. I also sit here thinking that I don't give a shit. It's only the problem of the person who chooses to buy it, and even then if they're a competent designer they can recolor it so that it isn't an issue. So in total, it's a non-issue. Moving on...
Why is it major drama if someone recolors something poorly (if that's someone's opinion)???
It's major drama if the strings were stolen from another designer and passed off as her own.
It's major drama if the strings were scanned/extracted items that are copyrighted Jolee's products.
It's major drama if the strings were traced artwork that once belonged to IKEA.
It's not, however, major fucking drama if you don't like the recolor that a designer did on an effing preview for a product that you are NOT required to buy.
That's why it's a non-issue. You're only making it an issue because it's Flergs, which is ironic, since that's the reason you think we're saying it is a non-issue. And yes, there is more than one of us who thinks this whole discussion is a waste of time and oxygen, b/c this is the first time I have posted about it.
Since the issue came from a legitimate problem, i.e. THEFT - I can only say that some people care more about running designers down than the actual problem.
oh please. We bash designers all the time for crappy design. So what? Now previews and CU are off limits? Since when?
I could care less about the recolor or the product but don't sit here and tell me that it's a non-issue. That's all we do here is bash designers work and each other. Haven't you been reading along?
It might be all you do. Don't speak for everyone. I've been reading here since this blog opened and I have learned some interesting things. Bashing people is only a small portion of this blog which thankfully I find easy to ignore.
Now pull your panties out of your butt and move on already. It is a non-issue. Flergs did not steal anything and that string really is not recolored that badly. I see much worse on a daily basis.
Hey Drama Bitch, the original preview I linked too did not indicate that the pack only contained pink strings and that the rest were recolored for the sake of the preview. So I stand by my original statement, it's a crappy recolor.
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Seriously?? You're calling me a bitch, yet I'm the one creating drama? At least I was able to disagree with you without calling you names. Also, you're the one who keeps beating this to death and frankly, I don't think more than one or two other people care enough to give a shit! So it may or may not be a crappy recolor on a preview. It seriously makes NO DIFFERENCE!! When one goes to recolor it AGAIN themselves they can make sure they do a better job than "crappy" (since we all know we can't just take Flergs' strings and plop them in a kit the way SHE colored them, right?!)
Everyone else who has chimed in on the topic has said its NO FUCKING BIG DEAL. So shut the fuck up, get your granny panties out of your ample ass crack and go away.
Oh, right. BITCH!
(there, now I feel like I earned the nickname she gave me) LOL
Everyone else who has chimed in on the topic has said its NO FUCKING BIG DEAL. So shut the fuck up, get your granny panties out of your ample ass crack and go away.
Oh, right. BITCH!
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Take a chill pill honey or you are going to blow something. Besides, not everyone who has chimed in said it was a non issue, a few people agreed with me. Out of my ass crack? Seriously? You have issues, major issues.
Now pull your panties out of your butt and move on already. It is a non-issue. Flergs did not steal anything and that string really is not recolored that badly. I see much worse on a daily basis. ---------
I have to laugh as you responding to someone other than me, yet you assumed it was me. NEVER ASSUME IT'S THE SAME PERSON, IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.
Clearly, other people also see it as an issue. There's a shocker.
It's not, however, major fucking drama if you don't like the recolor that a designer did on an effing preview for a product that you are NOT required to buy. -----
Yet the bashing of other crap quality product is okay, even though no one is required to buy it either? That makes no sense, smacks of a real double standard.
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Good grief. Yes, there is some pink on the blue recolored string. And the preview says "color for demonstration purposes only" - seems obviously that the strings are either greyscale or one other color.
As far as "you shouldn't bash it, you don't have to buy it" people here routinely bash freebies given away, so really? If you don't want to read the bashing don't come to a smack blog.
Talk about absolutely hideous and embarrassing for this designer. Could this be any worse? Seriously, I cant believe the people who call themselves designers. Just wow.
Any time you have to say something (on your blog in the description of the product) such as "because the elements are hard to see on the papers, here's another preview w/o the papers"... well, then you have to think to yourself, "how is someone going to be able to scrap with this, then, if you can't even see the elements on the papers in the preview???"
Talk about absolutely hideous and embarrassing for this designer. Could this be any worse? Seriously, I cant believe the people who call themselves designers. Just wow.
This sounds like the chick that was just caught stealing from her AGAIN. And in her defense, she made this 2 years ago, for her grandfather who JUST died. Move on. You were the one stealing from her, now you want to bash her?
And it also says, right at the bottom of the post:
Obviously this particular color scheme won't be for everyone, it's not really my style either for scrapping at least, maybe for tags, I hope some of you can use it though
Sorry. I've been absolutely swamped lately. I pop in and read here really fast once every day or two, to keep up, and keep hoping things will settle down so I can start looking at some new products and do a review or two (I completely missed the DSA designer contest; just no time). It's almost laughable that I feel semi-guilty I haven't delivered another review in so long. Apologies to all; real life comes first though. Hopefully some smack blog reviews to come soon... meanwhile, peace out ladies!
Talk about absolutely hideous and embarrassing for this designer. Could this be any worse? Seriously, I cant believe the people who call themselves designers. Just wow.
This sounds like the chick that was just caught stealing from her AGAIN. And in her defense, she made this 2 years ago, for her grandfather who JUST died. Move on. You were the one stealing from her, now you want to bash her? ======================== News Flash..I'm the original poster. I think its hilarious that you THINK you even know who I am. Gimme a break asshole. Number 1, I don't even design but if I did I certainly wouldn't steal from a "designer" like this. Number 2, you're just mad because you're probably the designer..and if that's true then a little advice - give it up..please, for the sake of embarrassing yourself any further. This so-called kit shows absolutely no skill as a designer or any kind of artist. My 6 year old son could do better with his eyes closed. Whatever..but thanks for playing. LOL
We bash the blog train and it's free. We bash the competitions and they are free. Free has nothing to do with anything.
Really tired of people bashing the bashing. You're on a smack blog. Get over it. ----
She made the kit in honor of her grandfather, bashing that is just beyond pathetic. She's not trying to drive people to her store unlike the blog train participants and those in the competitions who are either trying to get into a store or driving traffic to their store. That's the difference.
I'm really tried of people telling others what to do.
Really tired of people bashing the bashing. You're on a smack blog. Get over it. ------ Exactly. It's laughable and so obvious when the "designer" (or their cronies) comes here to defend their work. Not only that but how ridiculous to come here and ask people on a bash blog to stop bashing. Stop wasting your time.
News Flash..I'm the original poster. I think its hilarious that you THINK you even know who I am. Gimme a break asshole. you're just mad because you're probably the designer
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I think it's hilarious that you seem to think you know who is posting. Oh the irony.
t's laughable and so obvious when the "designer" (or their cronies) comes here to defend their work. ------
I think it's laughable that some of you always seem to think it's the designer or her cronies. I'm neither. I just don't like bullies. I just happen to think it's really pathetic to bash a kit that was made in honor of a loved one. Go ahead and laugh, but it sure does show the kind of person you are.
Oh come on, every kit/product is made in honor of SOMETHING. It doesn't matter why she made it... yes, it's sweet that she's honoring her grandfather... but it's hideous. The reason for making something has NOTHING to do with whether that something is marketable or smackable.
And to whoever said that she's "not trying to drive traffic to her store/etc." by making this, GET A CLUE. Designers don't design things for no reason at all. If all she'd wanted to do was honor her late grandfather, she could have written an ode to him on her blog, and posted a few photos. She chose, however, to honor him by making that kit. There's marketing/business there, for sure. Don't kid yourself. She even said it wasn't her scrapping style, so she sure as hell didn't make it for her own fun use.
Oh come on, every kit/product is made in honor of SOMETHING. It doesn't matter why she made it... yes, it's sweet that she's honoring her grandfather... but it's hideous. The reason for making something has NOTHING to do with whether that something is marketable or smackable.
And to whoever said that she's "not trying to drive traffic to her store/etc." by making this, GET A CLUE. Designers don't design things for no reason at all. If all she'd wanted to do was honor her late grandfather, she could have written an ode to him on her blog, and posted a few photos. She chose, however, to honor him by making that kit. There's marketing/business there, for sure. Don't kid yourself. She even said it wasn't her scrapping style, so she sure as hell didn't make it for her own fun use.
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I disagree. Selling and marketing do not have to be the driving forces behind designing. And yeah, she could have written something about her grandfather on her blog and posted pictures of him, but maybe she felt better able to express her emotions and feelings and memories in the form of creating a kit. If she loves designing, loves the process and really put her heart into it, maybe that means more than writing a blog blurb and posting photos. It's a creative process, and who are you to judge her motive? I don't think the kit is in anyway good either, but she made it in honor of her grandfather's memory, and as a designer myself, I can confidently say that your statement about designers only designing to sell and bring traffic to their stores is so off-base. That's like saying an author only writes to sell books and articles, which is completely untrue as well. I'm sure that's true for some (of course the ones who ARE doing it for the paycheck only), but it's not true for everyone--or for the people who truly love creating. It's an art, and true artists, whether good or bad or anywhere in between, will create with or without an audience or someone to hand over cash for what they've created. And no, I'm not the designer in question and I'm not affiliated with her in anyway (not that it would matter if I was, but since many on this blog seem obsessive about assuming things like that, I thought I would clarify). I just don't think you should be questioning her intentions in this situation and for something as sensitive as her creating a tribute to a loved one no longer here.
If you don't think the featured designers at DST are worth that much or their kits are not the best you can think of, it is time for you to suggest your favorite designers: http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=286398 Go ahead, and suggest someone you think will do something great for a kit.
What do you do when a store owner won't stop harassing you? I have a store owner who when I left the store, argued with me about why I was leaving, and now won't stop emailing me about how rude I am and how I must not be a personal person since I left for lack of payment. Just curious as to how I can rid myself of this pest.
What do you do when a store owner won't stop harassing you? I have a store owner who when I left the store, argued with me about why I was leaving, and now won't stop emailing me about how rude I am and how I must not be a personal person since I left for lack of payment. Just curious as to how I can rid myself of this pest. September 7, 2011 11:08 AM
Stop responding to her emails and block her email address. Done.
You left because she wouldn't/didn't pay you... and yet SHE is the one constantly contacting YOU?! Do explain further, b/c that just doesn't make a lot of sense.
I disagree. Selling and marketing do not have to be the driving forces behind designing. And yeah, she could have written something about her grandfather on her blog and posted pictures of him, but maybe she felt better able to express her emotions and feelings and memories in the form of creating a kit. If she loves designing, loves the process and really put her heart into it, maybe that means more than writing a blog blurb and posting photos. It's a creative process, and who are you to judge her motive? I don't think the kit is in anyway good either, but she made it in honor of her grandfather's memory, and as a designer myself, I can confidently say that your statement about designers only designing to sell and bring traffic to their stores is so off-base. That's like saying an author only writes to sell books and articles, which is completely untrue as well. I'm sure that's true for some (of course the ones who ARE doing it for the paycheck only), but it's not true for everyone--or for the people who truly love creating. It's an art, and true artists, whether good or bad or anywhere in between, will create with or without an audience or someone to hand over cash for what they've created. And no, I'm not the designer in question and I'm not affiliated with her in anyway (not that it would matter if I was, but since many on this blog seem obsessive about assuming things like that, I thought I would clarify). I just don't think you should be questioning her intentions in this situation and for something as sensitive as her creating a tribute to a loved one no longer here. -------------------- You can disagree all you want, and throw rose petals around and conjure up unicorns, too... but that doesn't change the fact that anytime a designer creates something and then DISPLAYS IT FOR THE WORLD TO SEE (as opposed to simply creating for herself and keeping it on her own HD), she's looking for positive reinforcement of some sort. I didn't say it was only about money, so don't automatically go there. But posting a design for EVERYONE to see is a way to invite feedback... sometimes the feedback is in sales, and sometimes it's in blog comments ("oh, how cute!!!" etc. ad nauseum), and so on.
You simply don't spend time working on something and then posting it publicly unless you WANT FEEDBACK of some sort. Otherwise you'd keep it to yourself.
Further, as a designer, I can say 100% that I would NEVER post something if I didn't like the result. Everything I show the world represents me and my designs, and I know that.
You can disagree all you want, and throw rose petals around and conjure up unicorns, too... but that doesn't change the fact that anytime a designer creates something and then DISPLAYS IT FOR THE WORLD TO SEE (as opposed to simply creating for herself and keeping it on her own HD), she's looking for positive reinforcement of some sort. I didn't say it was only about money, so don't automatically go there. But posting a design for EVERYONE to see is a way to invite feedback... sometimes the feedback is in sales, and sometimes it's in blog comments ("oh, how cute!!!" etc. ad nauseum), and so on.
You simply don't spend time working on something and then posting it publicly unless you WANT FEEDBACK of some sort. Otherwise you'd keep it to yourself.
Further, as a designer, I can say 100% that I would NEVER post something if I didn't like the result. Everything I show the world represents me and my designs, and I know that.
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That's a fair point, and I agree about not posting something if you don't like the result and/or quality. I was simply trying to point out that it wasn't necessarily posted to generate customers and traffic to her store, that's all.
If all she'd wanted to do was honor her late grandfather, she could have written an ode to him on her blog, and posted a few photos. She chose, however, to honor him by making that kit. ------
Maybe that's her ode, maybe that's the only way she knows how to honor him. Not everyone is mercenary.
And before anyone corrects me on my use of mercenary, I'm including a link to the definition
The reason I came on here to ask was I was hoping to actually get some REAL advice, without having to disclose who I was, about what to do about the situation. Obviously I already knew how to block and email. Contrary to your belief, I'm not an idiot.
I didn't, however, want it to be an issue and smack fest about the owner. That's why I cut it short. I already know how you all feel about her.
I'm also a little concerned that she might be talking to other people effecting my future of getting into other stores.
Now whether she has that kind of "clout" or not, I don't know. However, it would've been nice to get THAT kind of advice instead of the obvious.
But I suppose that's my fault for not asking for that directly.
Why would you come here, posting as yourself, and purposely write something inflammatory when nobody has yet said boo to you about this?! It's like you're actually inviting drama. Don't poke the bear, you moron. You're inviting whatever comes your way.
^^^ Nobody can be sure it is Sara here. Don't you think there could be someone here who COULD log in and identify herself as Sara to stir shit and get Sara blamed. Don't believe everything you see on the net, including the poster's name. It is sooooo easy to fake online.
Normally I like Dawn Inskip's stuff but this newest kit is hideous. Especially the colors. Yuck. http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=97230&title=diva-collection&cat=523
I agree on first look and I normally like Dawn Inskip's stuff too. But when I looked at the sample layouts, I thought the kit wasn't that bad. Maybe a case of poor preview design - it definitely isn't very inviting!
Normally I like Dawn Inskip's stuff but this newest kit is hideous. Especially the colors. Yuck. http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=97230&title=diva-collection&cat=523
September 8, 2011 3:35 PM Anonymous Souxie said...
I agree on first look and I normally like Dawn Inskip's stuff too. But when I looked at the sample layouts, I thought the kit wasn't that bad. Maybe a case of poor preview design - it definitely isn't very inviting!
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I don't like pink and black together, it's obvious and done to death. The preview is bad but I wasn't impressed by the CT layouts either. Just a case of a great designer with an off kit.
and if people weren't begging their FB fans to nominate them, too? (*cough* Chelle's Creations *cough*) There are some nominated that I really like though, and I was happy to see some template designers nominated, too. Have any template designers been featured before?
I wonder who would be nominated for a featured designer if CTs weren't allowed to nominate their designers? --------------- Seriously it's obnoxious. Especially the people who "nominated" 10 people, and have those same 10 blinkies down below in their siggie. So transparent and very annoying. Really? 10 people?
I love seeing obvious CT members voting for some of their designers, but not all of them. Why are you on teams you wouldn't nominate if you're going to take the time to do it anyway?
The DST thing is laughable...but I haven't been there in ages so I realize I have no room to talk.
Meanwhile, am I reading the DSA Contestant totals right? It looks like the new designers at Digiscrap Addicts would have been better off if there had been no division between the new and established designers.
2 AM Designs was one of my favorites and if DSA had done the winners proportionally 4 or 5 from the new category and 1 or 2 from the established, or if they had just lumped them all together, she would have been a winner.
Are any of you who are complaining nominating anyone? If not, STFU. If you are, good for you.
September 9, 2011 10:38 PM Anonymous Anonymous said...
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No, just damn bored with the whining. If you aren't doing anything about it, STFU. You don't care enough to change it, so quit the complaining. It's boring.
If you're tired of the complaining stop coming to a smack blog. ------
Brilliant suggestion. The only thing that ever happens on this blog is the complaining about the DST featured designer! Thank you so much for your most excellent suggestion.
IMO it would actually be smart of DST to ONLY allow gold/diamond members to nominate designers to be featured. Those are the only people it really matters to anyway, in that they get the free kit each month. Other than that, why would DST care whether CTs want their designer nominated? The process should be closed to everyone except the DST gold and diamond members. And no, I am not one... just a designer who would be really, really interested to see what regular customers would like (and not just CTs/designers).
I'm sure that would cut down a bunch of the rabid CT since you know the only reason they CT is because they're not going to pay money for anything. They certainly aren't going to buy gold or diamond memberships.
^^^^^ Anyone thought of PMing Wendyzine with that suggestion since she is the one who started the thread? Believe it or not, sometimes, some posters here DO have good ideas. Why keep them on the smack blog? Share them where they can be put to good use. That is not complaining if there is a suggestion to make something better. Go for it. Wendy does not bite.
IMO it would actually be smart of DST to ONLY allow gold/diamond members to nominate designers to be featured. Those are the only people it really matters to anyway, in that they get the free kit each month. Other than that, why would DST care whether CTs want their designer nominated? The process should be closed to everyone except the DST gold and diamond members. And no, I am not one... just a designer who would be really, really interested to see what regular customers would like (and not just CTs/designers).
----------------------------------- I like that idea too. It makes sense though, so it probably won't happen. Let the people who are paying for the product choose what they want.
LOL, just reading thru the obvious CT pimping in that featured designers thread. Anyone notice that chick "merchi" who got the special treatment during SM's last designer apprentice contest?
Since when does she spell her name Kairyn instead of Karen? Seems a bit odd to me.
There are a lot of really "newish" designers being suggested for that featured designer thing. I sure hope the powers at DST look into a designer's history before choosing. I believe you should have to pay your dues a bit before you get such a prominent feature spot.
Etc by Danyale, Band Geek, Dream Big and several others have only been around for something like six months, as far as I know. There are far better designers in the so-called "top" stores that haven't been featured yet, and those designers have been selling for several years.
They are not going to look at anything. It is a popularity vote - so if Band Geek or whoever has the most votes, they win. So if you don't see your favorite designers listed, go nominate.
Dream Big has been around for a couple years. Horrid quality awhile ago, not sure what it's like now though because I swore I wouldn't buy from her again.
So if you could nominate someone who hasn't been featured before... who would it be? I'm a designer so I'm not going to go nominate anyone, but I am curious to know who the rest of you are interested in (of anyone who hasn't been featured before... there's a list at the beginning of the DST thread).
Meanwhile, am I reading the DSA Contestant totals right? It looks like the new designers at Digiscrap Addicts would have been better off if there had been no division between the new and established designers.
^^^ While I see nothing wrong with the division, I also think that judges will have judged differently based on perceived experience
I'm thinking it would be nice if, when DST goes through the nomination thread, they ignored any nominations from designers' CT members. I know it won't ever happen, but it would be an interesting list if you took those posts out.
Personally I don't mind making a newer designer a Featured Designer. It might be nice to get introduced to some newer designers instead of the same old designers we already know and have already been interviewed before elsewhere.
Is being a DST featured designer such a good thing? What does the designer get out of it? From what I can tell, they have to make a full kit to give away for free and for that they get...???
Advertising. Customers who actually BUY products (obviously, since they bought the diamond/gold membership) are getting the kit, and then some may go shop from that designer. Plus being featured means you are on the front page, so when someone loads the front page of DST, they see your name, photo, etc.
You probably don't want to click on Sweet MESSquite's link. It's porn. You're a sick idiot, BTW. I have children playing here in this room. Thanks for being responsible for them almost seeing that. You might feel like porn is fine to show small children, but I don't. Think before you do things like that dumbass.
I would never pay, for one month's advertising, what I'd get for selling a kit in my store. Totally not worth it to me.
I do have a diamond membership,for over 4yrs now. it has introduced me to some of my favourite designers over the years. I agree with whoever suggested that only dst gold/diamond members get to choose, cause I would be super pissed if some of those crappy suggestions got a guest spot . I would love to see a kit by Anne Aspne, or katie pertit. will pop over to dst and hope that the powers that be have some sense to select quality designers......
You can always tell when a designer has posted in her forum to have her team go nominate her. All of the sudden there are like 5 nominations for some off the wall designer. Ex Keystone Scraps and Kellybell.
Advertising. Customers who actually BUY products (obviously, since they bought the diamond/gold membership) are getting the kit, and then some may go shop from that designer. Plus being featured means you are on the front page, so when someone loads the front page of DST, they see your name, photo, etc.
You probably don't want to click on Sweet MESSquite's link. It's porn. You're a sick idiot, BTW. I have children playing here in this room. Thanks for being responsible for them almost seeing that. ------
You are the one responsible for that. If you had bothered to hover over the link, you would have seen that it went to a site called Kiss My Ass.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can bitch and moan all you what about the featured designers at DST but if the designer you want chooses not to be featured, there's nothing anyone can do. And yes, there are designers who have declined the 'honor' of being the featured designer. This is why the featured designers over the last few years have been 'dubious'.
I would love to see Anna Aspnes or the like, but they probably wouldn't waste their time.
What's the deal with Raspberry Road? no one ever talks about her/them. Also, no one talks mush about the designers at Design House Digital? I just wondered why? The prices seem good and the quality seems passable, but what I like are the designs themselves.
What's the deal with Raspberry Road? no one ever talks about her/them. Also, no one talks mush about the designers at Design House Digital? I just wondered why? The prices seem good and the quality seems passable, but what I like are the designs themselves.
September 10, 2011 11:07 PM --------- Can't attest to what Raspberry Road's quality is like now, but I bought a CU pack of frames from her a couple years back and it was loaded with strays. I've never purchased again.
And yes, there are designers who have declined the 'honor' of being the featured designer. This is why the featured designers over the last few years have been 'dubious'.
September 10, 2011 9:51 PM -------------------- Sounds like someone is jealous she hasn't been offered a spot. There is nothing wrong with any of the designers who had a spot this year or last. They might not be your taste or favorite designer, but that doesn't make them unworthy or "dubious" of being featured.
Any smart designer who is trying to grow her business would jump at the opportunity to gain that much exposure to people who might not have noticed her work before. Some designers think they are "above it" or something? Well, that makes them little more than a snobby, short-sighted business owner. I'm hardly impressed that "some have declined it." Whatever.
I'm not a designer. It's not always about jealousy. Think outside the box every now and again.
I put the word dubious in quotes as that is what people on this blog were implying. You did the see the quotes, didn't you?
Yes, some designers have declined because it wasn't worth their time. They don't think they are above it. A smart designer would weigh all her options, base her decisions on previous experiences with exposure on DST through ad spaces etc. not leap on a pointless opportunity. Not all 'opportunities' are created equal.
You seem to be under the illusion that DST is actually still the hub of the digital community.
Sounds like someone is jealous she hasn't been offered a spot. ----
Oh yeah, fer sure. I'm so jealous, I can't even begin to tell you how jealous I am. I so incredibly jealous that no one has asked me to make a kit. I'm not sure why I'm this jealous, as I'm not even a designer, but there, you caught me out, I'm still jealous. Oh woe is me, oh woe. Alas alack.
Any smart designer who is trying to grow her business would jump at the opportunity to gain that much exposure ------
What exposure? Have you seen the amount of views the free kits have received over the last year of featured designers? It's pretty pathetic compared to other years. It's hardly a golden opportunity.
The reason I came on here to ask was I was hoping to actually get some REAL advice, without having to disclose who I was, about what to do about the situation. Obviously I already knew how to block and email. Contrary to your belief, I'm not an idiot. ------------
You came to a smack blog to get some REAL advice and yet claim you aren't an idiot. What's wrong with this picture?
What exposure? Have you seen the amount of views the free kits have received over the last year of featured designers? It's pretty pathetic compared to other years. It's hardly a golden opportunity.
September 11, 2011 1:22 AM --------------------- That's an easy statement to make when you can't prove it. Even if you're a Diamond member, you can only see how many downloads were done over the last 12 months. There is nothing to compare it to, so you could be talking completely out of your asshole, for all I know.
Got a screenshot from three years ago showing download numbers? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Imbelice, I never said a thing about downloads, I mentioned VIEWS!! I'm really not sure how you could misread it, I mean, they only have two letters in common.
And you need to stop obsessing about your behind, it's a little unhealthy.
Imbelice, I never said a thing about downloads, I mentioned VIEWS!!
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Imbelice?!?!!!
Opinion: if you're trying to call someone a name, and the point of that name is to call them "stupid"... then you should probably make sure you're spelling it properly. Otherwise, you're the one who comes off looking like the "imbelice"! Ha ha ha ha ha! Moron.
I would never pay, for one month's advertising, what I'd get for selling a kit in my store. Totally not worth it to me.
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Never pay for what? Being a featured designer? You don't have to pay.
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Obviously you are a DST promoter. Since I don't believe that anyone is that dense.
To be a featured designer, you have to give DST a kit for their Diamond Members. You are trading the kit for the advertising. Therefore, you are paying DST whatever you would have made selling that kit in your own store.
The amount I would make selling a kit in my store, is way way more than I would consider paying for the advertising exposure I would get from DST.
Just because they don't view the kit or even the Insider doesn't mean they aren't getting exposure. Anytime someone goes to the site you see for a whole month that designer's face and their kit.
Even if they don't necessarily like the kit, that doesn't mean people aren't clicking to go to the store just to see what else is there.
Maybe not a great reward for designers who have been around for years but I'm sure some if someone was newer to design they'd appreciate the exposure.
Btw "believe you should have to pay your dues a bit before you get such a prominent feature spot." you should not quote yourself word for word when posting in dst. If it isn't you I'd be really surprised.
The amount I would make selling a kit in my store, is way way more than I would consider paying for the advertising exposure I would get from DST. ______________
They aren't that dense. I didn't understand you either.
Can't attest to what Raspberry Road's quality is like now, but I bought a CU pack of frames from her a couple years back and it was loaded with strays. I've never purchased again. *********
Strays I could handle. It was the blurriness that rendered them unusable.
I have been a designer and around the community for over 5 years. I have seen only 4 designers that I recognize as a featured designer. I have often wondered why some of the very talented designers I see around have never made it to that front page. They are always young 20-something women designing cute kits. Too bad the demographic for digital scrapbooking is much more diverse that baby and child scrapbooking. Would be nice to see DST look outside the box and actually highlight strong, diverse designers who have already paid their dues.
Apparently some of those "paid dues" designers don't want to be featured. Since they already have a following and are fully established they would be giving a kit away for free when they don't need to.
Yes - it is nice to see some well known faces as well but it's smart business to feature someone who is up and coming or is in trend.I'd like to see a mixture.
I'd also like to see the ct's stop nominating their own designers because I can't even take their nominations seriously and I hope DST doesn't either.
^ Agreed. Otherwise, all you have to do to be featured is have the biggest CT. I'll just have a CT call and take on everyone who applies, then I'll be in for sure!
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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«Oldest ‹Older 1601 – 1800 of 2374 Newer› Newest»my definition of a good designer:
Must be competent in their chosen design software.
Must not rely solely on cu products.
Must have a decent eye for color and composition.
And if they don't overcharge that's a bonus.
Couldn't help but notice the crap recolor on the blue string in the 100% view
http://www.hunnybeedesign.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/cdp0309-skwerliciousstrings.jpg
What is so crappy about it? Looks just fine to me.
Sometimes I think people like to be critical just for the fun of it. *rolls eyes*
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know.
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know.
AMEN!!!
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know.
September 4, 2011 4:49 AM
Ditto.
Even if it is not in the original color it really isn't a bad recolor if the color palette includes a pale blue.
Does anyone know what happened to Tinamarie from Oscraps? Is she gone?
oh good Lord have mercy - have you guys seen this crap?
http://www.digitalscrapbookingstudio.com/gallery/g1287-ndc-2011-3a-round-1-page2.html
oh good Lord have mercy - have you guys seen this crap?
http://www.digitalscrapbookingstudio.com/gallery/g1287-ndc-2011-3a-round-1-page2.html
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what is it with these stores having design contests?? It dosnt make for good business IMO. why would you want to make your customers more proficient in making their own product. Dont you want sales in your own stores. ? There are PLENTY of designers out there already, enough to fill any store, just do a designer call.
Is there something wrong in trying to retain your customers not make them competitors...how do the other designers at the stores that have these really feel, less secure or even pissed off? I know I would but then Im not a designer just a humble scrapper...its not like they are discovering Gems that will evolutionise the digi world.. cause if someone is that good they will go direct to store owners and pitch there wares.
its not like they are discovering Gems that will evolutionise the digi world.. cause if someone is that good they will go direct to store owners and pitch there wares.
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well ya they would know trashy design contests are just that crap!
If your skills are good then you wouldnt want to associate your name with these train wrecks.
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know.
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Really? You only think it is but that makes me wrong? I don't care if it's the original color or not, it's crappy looking. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Even if it is not in the original color it really isn't a bad recolor if the color palette includes a pale blue.
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Did you miss the pink shadows on that string? It's not the color itself that is crappy, it's the recolor. Geez, just because it's Flergs, it's okay? WTF?
I think that string is actually in it's original color ... which just goes to show you how much people on this blog who go on about 'crappy recoloring' actually know
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Maybe I just have a better monitor or it's calibrated correctly, but the pink shadows on that string strongly suggest that it was not originally blue. Just goes to show what you know, right, sorry, what you THINK. See, you don't even KNOW for sure.
cause if someone is that good they will go direct to store owners and pitch there wares.
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No, they won't. Some people are too shy to pitch 'there' wares to a store, but have less problem taking part in a competition.
There are few designers that I would want to represent my store that take part in these competitions. But you find one with potential every once in a while. It's a rare event though.
The only time I ever offered someone a position from a contest, turned out she was a total flake.
There are maybe 2-3 halfway decent entries, at The Studio, but most is just not good.
Who is store worthy from the DSA competition?
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No one yet.
Is Simon/Piers/Randi planning on reviewing the Studio entries?
(Just wondering - don't bite my head off).
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Even if it is not in the original color it really isn't a bad recolor if the color palette includes a pale blue.
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Did you miss the pink shadows on that string? It's not the color itself that is crappy, it's the recolor. Geez, just because it's Flergs, it's okay? WTF?
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WTF back at you. No one said anything about it being ok because it is Flergs. There's no pink shadows on that string. I'm certainly not the one smoking anything in a pipe.
I don't see it either and I know that my monitor is calibrated properly.
Oh, I see the pink all right, but I think that's scanner light issues, not a bad recolor. And i would rather have that than an absolutely flat recolor.
I have those strings and they are all originally pink with the originals included in the pack
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Ha! Vindicated! I knew it was a bad recolor. Looks like I do know what I'm talking about.
Thanks for the info.
There's no pink shadows on that string.
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There's distinct pink shadows on the string. Maybe your monitor needs another calibration?
What is so crappy about it? Looks just fine to me.
Sometimes I think people like to be critical just for the fun of it. *rolls eyes*
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No, it's a bad recolor. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it isn't there. I'm not one to be critical for the fun of it *rolls eyes right back*
Who is store worthy from the DSA competition?
September 4, 2011 9:51 PM
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No one yet.
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I disagree. Some of the newbie designers are as good as established designers in the so called top tier stores.
I disagree. Some of the newbie designers are as good as established designers in the so called top tier stores.
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^^^^ You're kidding, right? Based on the previews, I really don't see any yet. And the palette is just so bland and boring. Yuck.
So, they can use as much CU as they want in this competition or what? For most kits, the best items in there are clearly CU. And those CU are almost 100% freebies too. Is there anyone from the store to check if they are not violating the TOU of the CU used? A lot of CU, freebie or not, don't allow making freebies out of it. I even saw one of my PU freebies in one kit. Not that I mind that much because this is clearly for newbies but what a bummer! :(
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I was in the comp and did not use one piece of CU and I was ranking fairly high too. I just quit because it wasn't challenging enough.
Besides, a lot of designers in the top tier stores use a bunch of CU too. I don't see it as relevant.
^^^^^ Well good for you. I didn't bash anyone for using CU, did I? It's all about how you use them. I just wondered what the rules are about it. I DO have a problem when I see them used in violation of TOU, though.
If you are wondering what the rules are, go and read the threads for each challenge in the forum. Each challenge had a different set of rules.
*rolls eyes right back*
September 5, 2011 12:54 AM
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My, my... how original and mature of you!! Do you feel better now? Or do you still need to lay down and have a good cry into your blankie?
WhoTF cares if the preview has a bad recolor on it, anyway?! As long as the person purchasing the strings doesn't repeat the so-called bad recoloring job when he/she uses it in a kit, why do you care?
I agree with PP. Seems like bitching just for the sake of being a bitch, at least to me.
I disagree. Some of the newbie designers are as good as established designers in the so called top tier stores.
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^^^^ You're kidding, right? Based on the previews, I really don't see any yet. And the palette is just so bland and boring. Yuck.
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1st person here is talking about the DSA competition - the second is talking about the Next Designer Contest at DSS. You are too busy slagging designers off to realize you're not even talking about the same thing. How do I know this? There was never an assigned palette for DSA contests. There were CU rules at DSA. And there was no segmentation by new/established at DSS.
I'd personally rather see a designer using CU to make good looking kits, than to see a designer making their own stuff and ending up with crappy looking kits.
If you see a violation of TOUs, contact the host of the competition. I'm sure they would want to know. And it would be interesting to see if anything is done about it.
There is so much CU out there that those running the competition can't possibly know every CU product available and the TOUs of those products. Even if the contestants are made to credit everything, they could leave something off. I would never want to run one of these competitions, it seems like you are just asking for a headache.
1st person here is talking about the DSA competition - the second is talking about the Next Designer Contest at DSS. You are too busy slagging designers off to realize you're not even talking about the same thing. How do I know this? There was never an assigned palette for DSA contests. There were CU rules at DSA. And there was no segmentation by new/established at DSS.
September 5, 2011 6:45 AM
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I am neither the OP nor the SP. I saw one or two designers at DA (at DSA) that I might follow. No one at DSS though.
I'd like to know who because I don't believe you.
I don't even think a big name designer could make a cute kit with that color palette at DSS. That's gross.
It makes complete sense for DSS to host a designer contest, one half of their store is a CU store. Hosting a contest with no CU restriction is a perfect way to drive traffic to your crappy CU store.
^^^couldn't agree more!
I'd like to know who because I don't believe you.
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Luv Ewe is kind of cute and I liked Chris Matthis. She was robbed in the judging at DA. I don't blame her for dropping out.
Luv Ewe is kind of cute and I liked Chris Matthis. She was robbed in the judging at DA. I don't blame her for dropping out.
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I would like to know how she was robbed. Wasn't she just a few points off the lead when she dropped out?
Luv Ewe may be cute, but her quality is bad (as shown in her freebies during the contest). I don't know the standings, but I hope she's not high on the list. That's just rewarding bad quality IMO.
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She was in 2nd place with a 10 point lead over the next person. She didn't do great in the first challenge - but "robbed" - really? It's a subjective judging process. She was in 2nd place all along. It's not like 1st place was a spot anywhere. It's coupons for the established designers. "Robbed" is a little extreme.
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24006
Scores at the end of round 4 - last challenge has been submitted and the final scores will be posted Wed/Thurs
If you bothered to actually download anything you would've seen that the person who placed above her had shadows and overflow on her elements and extractions that shouldn't have been there. Chris' extractions, while not extraordinary, were done far better in comparison.
Maybe not robbed, but certainly the judges have their favorites that have nothing to do with actual skill.
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As someone in the contest - I lost marks for stuff that had nothing to do with my extractions in the first round. All the judges comments were that my extractions were excellent. But just because extractions were the focus doesn't mean judges weren't basing their scores off of other things.
If the challenge is focused on the extractions and the extractions suck, I wouldn't be giving them bonus points for "creativity". What good does novelty do when the quality sucks?
If you bothered to actually download anything you would've seen that the person who placed above her had shadows and overflow on her elements and extractions that shouldn't have been there. Chris' extractions, while not extraordinary, were done far better in comparison.
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I did download the designer above her and I didn't see anything wrong with her extractions. Then again I am just a regular old scrapper and I have no idea what overflow is and the shadows on her elements looked fine to me.
I didn't participate but I did download the kit you were talking about. Standard Quality Checking. I wonder if the judges even bothered to check.
Who even cares? Isn't it over now anyway?
I agree with PP. Seems like bitching just for the sake of being a bitch, at least to me.
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What, like you?
My, my... how original and mature of you!! Do you feel better now? Or do you still need to lay down and have a good cry into your blankie?
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WTF? Get a grip, Drama Queen.
I'd personally rather see a designer using CU to make good looking kits, than to see a designer making their own stuff and ending up with crappy looking kits.
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You are assuming the use of CU is going to make a good kit. Wrong. If they are good, the use or none use of CU is not an issue. If they are bad, even using CU won't make them better.
I downloaded the kit after it got a positive review from Piers or Simon, I can't remember which one, and I liked it. I downloaded the rest of her stuff too and I am just not seeing the quality issues you are seeing. To me it seems like someone is just upset they didn't do so well so they are "picking", for lack of a better word, on the person who did do well.
Chris Matthews wasn't robbed. She was only 10 points from first when she dropped out. The designer in first didn't even score that well in week four so if Chris had stayed in she probably would have taken the top spot.
WhoTF cares if the preview has a bad recolor on it, anyway?! As long as the person purchasing the strings doesn't repeat the so-called bad recoloring job when he/she uses it in a kit, why do you care?
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Hey Drama Bitch, the original preview I linked too did not indicate that the pack only contained pink strings and that the rest were recolored for the sake of the preview. So I stand by my original statement, it's a crappy recolor.
I am stunned that none of you can see it but I guess if was a supposed 'no name' designer, you'd be smacking her to hell and back. Such hypocrisy. I've seen others smacked for crap quality for less offensive than this.
I detest Flergs and have to admit I see nothing wrong with those strings.
I see the pinkish hue on parts of the close-up view of the blue string. I also sit here thinking that I don't give a shit. It's only the problem of the person who chooses to buy it, and even then if they're a competent designer they can recolor it so that it isn't an issue. So in total, it's a non-issue. Moving on...
Not sure why it's a non issue on this, but other times it's a major drama?
Someone please explain why that is.
I detest Flergs and have to admit I see nothing wrong with those strings.
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I'm not the only one that sees the pink shadows on the blue, so I suggest getting your monitor calibrated or your eyes checked.
Why is it major drama if someone recolors something poorly (if that's someone's opinion)???
It's major drama if the strings were stolen from another designer and passed off as her own.
It's major drama if the strings were scanned/extracted items that are copyrighted Jolee's products.
It's major drama if the strings were traced artwork that once belonged to IKEA.
It's not, however, major fucking drama if you don't like the recolor that a designer did on an effing preview for a product that you are NOT required to buy.
That's why it's a non-issue. You're only making it an issue because it's Flergs, which is ironic, since that's the reason you think we're saying it is a non-issue. And yes, there is more than one of us who thinks this whole discussion is a waste of time and oxygen, b/c this is the first time I have posted about it.
Since the issue came from a legitimate problem, i.e. THEFT - I can only say that some people care more about running designers down than the actual problem.
oh please. We bash designers all the time for crappy design. So what? Now previews and CU are off limits? Since when?
I could care less about the recolor or the product but don't sit here and tell me that it's a non-issue. That's all we do here is bash designers work and each other. Haven't you been reading along?
It might be all you do. Don't speak for everyone. I've been reading here since this blog opened and I have learned some interesting things. Bashing people is only a small portion of this blog which thankfully I find easy to ignore.
Now pull your panties out of your butt and move on already. It is a non-issue. Flergs did not steal anything and that string really is not recolored that badly. I see much worse on a daily basis.
Hey Drama Bitch, the original preview I linked too did not indicate that the pack only contained pink strings and that the rest were recolored for the sake of the preview. So I stand by my original statement, it's a crappy recolor.
September 5, 2011 5:47 PM
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Seriously?? You're calling me a bitch, yet I'm the one creating drama? At least I was able to disagree with you without calling you names. Also, you're the one who keeps beating this to death and frankly, I don't think more than one or two other people care enough to give a shit! So it may or may not be a crappy recolor on a preview. It seriously makes NO DIFFERENCE!! When one goes to recolor it AGAIN themselves they can make sure they do a better job than "crappy" (since we all know we can't just take Flergs' strings and plop them in a kit the way SHE colored them, right?!)
Everyone else who has chimed in on the topic has said its NO FUCKING BIG DEAL. So shut the fuck up, get your granny panties out of your ample ass crack and go away.
Oh, right. BITCH!
(there, now I feel like I earned the nickname she gave me) LOL
Everyone else who has chimed in on the topic has said its NO FUCKING BIG DEAL. So shut the fuck up, get your granny panties out of your ample ass crack and go away.
Oh, right. BITCH!
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Take a chill pill honey or you are going to blow something. Besides, not everyone who has chimed in said it was a non issue, a few people agreed with me. Out of my ass crack? Seriously? You have issues, major issues.
I see much worse on a daily basis.
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And I see much better.
I can't believe we had two people talking about panties in their butts. What the hell is wrong with you people?
Now pull your panties out of your butt and move on already. It is a non-issue. Flergs did not steal anything and that string really is not recolored that badly. I see much worse on a daily basis.
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I have to laugh as you responding to someone other than me, yet you assumed it was me. NEVER ASSUME IT'S THE SAME PERSON, IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.
Clearly, other people also see it as an issue. There's a shocker.
oh please. We bash designers all the time for crappy design. So what? Now previews and CU are off limits? Since when?
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Since it's a name designer. Besides, I didn't bash the designer, I bashed the product.
It's not, however, major fucking drama if you don't like the recolor that a designer did on an effing preview for a product that you are NOT required to buy.
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Yet the bashing of other crap quality product is okay, even though no one is required to buy it either? That makes no sense, smacks of a real double standard.
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Good grief. Yes, there is some pink on the blue recolored string. And the preview says "color for demonstration purposes only" - seems obviously that the strings are either greyscale or one other color.
As far as "you shouldn't bash it, you don't have to buy it" people here routinely bash freebies given away, so really? If you don't want to read the bashing don't come to a smack blog.
Besides, the product in question is ANCIENT. I'd rather have opinions about new stuff.
I find bashing the bashing a little old too. Can we move on please?
Talk about absolutely hideous and embarrassing for this designer. Could this be any worse? Seriously, I cant believe the people who call themselves designers. Just wow.
http://www.hunnybeedesign.com/blog/2011/07/freebie-true-blue-kit/
Any time you have to say something (on your blog in the description of the product) such as "because the elements are hard to see on the papers, here's another preview w/o the papers"... well, then you have to think to yourself, "how is someone going to be able to scrap with this, then, if you can't even see the elements on the papers in the preview???"
Wow. Oversight there, I might say.
Now that kit is a gamut problem.
W.T.F. I now have a headache.
Talk about absolutely hideous and embarrassing for this designer. Could this be any worse? Seriously, I cant believe the people who call themselves designers. Just wow.
http://www.hunnybeedesign.com/blog/2011/07/freebie-true-blue-kit/
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This sounds like the chick that was just caught stealing from her AGAIN. And in her defense, she made this 2 years ago, for her grandfather who JUST died. Move on. You were the one stealing from her, now you want to bash her?
She didn't make it two years ago. Her grandfather died two years ago. She just made the kit in July.
^^ I was wrong. I just reread the post.
And it also says, right at the bottom of the post:
Obviously this particular color scheme won't be for everyone, it's not really my style either for scrapping at least, maybe for tags, I hope some of you can use it though
Where have the reviewers disappeared to?
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Here: http://dsthofreviews.blogspot.com/
Thanks but there is nothing new there either.
Sorry. I've been absolutely swamped lately. I pop in and read here really fast once every day or two, to keep up, and keep hoping things will settle down so I can start looking at some new products and do a review or two (I completely missed the DSA designer contest; just no time). It's almost laughable that I feel semi-guilty I haven't delivered another review in so long. Apologies to all; real life comes first though. Hopefully some smack blog reviews to come soon... meanwhile, peace out ladies!
Talk about absolutely hideous and embarrassing for this designer. Could this be any worse? Seriously, I cant believe the people who call themselves designers. Just wow.
http://www.hunnybeedesign.com/blog/2011/07/freebie-true-blue-kit/
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She made this in honor of her grandfather and you are going to bash it? That's pathetic.
This sounds like the chick that was just caught stealing from her AGAIN.
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Er, no it doesn't, not in the least little bit.
Now that kit is a gamut problem.
September 6, 2011 12:45 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
W.T.F. I now have a headache.
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WTF does it matter? It's free, it's not like she's trying to sell it. Geez, some of you are just lame.
We bash the blog train and it's free. We bash the competitions and they are free. Free has nothing to do with anything.
Really tired of people bashing the bashing. You're on a smack blog. Get over it.
This sounds like the chick that was just caught stealing from her AGAIN. And in her defense, she made this 2 years ago, for her grandfather who JUST died. Move on. You were the one stealing from her, now you want to bash her?
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News Flash..I'm the original poster. I think its hilarious that you THINK you even know who I am. Gimme a break asshole. Number 1, I don't even design but if I did I certainly wouldn't steal from a "designer" like this. Number 2, you're just mad because you're probably the designer..and if that's true then a little advice - give it up..please, for the sake of embarrassing yourself any further. This so-called kit shows absolutely no skill as a designer or any kind of artist. My 6 year old son could do better with his eyes closed. Whatever..but thanks for playing. LOL
We bash the blog train and it's free. We bash the competitions and they are free. Free has nothing to do with anything.
Really tired of people bashing the bashing. You're on a smack blog. Get over it.
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She made the kit in honor of her grandfather, bashing that is just beyond pathetic. She's not trying to drive people to her store unlike the blog train participants and those in the competitions who are either trying to get into a store or driving traffic to their store. That's the difference.
I'm really tried of people telling others what to do.
Really tired of people bashing the bashing. You're on a smack blog. Get over it.
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Exactly. It's laughable and so obvious when the "designer" (or their cronies) comes here to defend their work. Not only that but how ridiculous to come here and ask people on a bash blog to stop bashing. Stop wasting your time.
News Flash..I'm the original poster. I think its hilarious that you THINK you even know who I am. Gimme a break asshole. you're just mad because you're probably the designer
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I think it's hilarious that you seem to think you know who is posting. Oh the irony.
t's laughable and so obvious when the "designer" (or their cronies) comes here to defend their work.
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I think it's laughable that some of you always seem to think it's the designer or her cronies. I'm neither. I just don't like bullies. I just happen to think it's really pathetic to bash a kit that was made in honor of a loved one. Go ahead and laugh, but it sure does show the kind of person you are.
Oh come on, every kit/product is made in honor of SOMETHING. It doesn't matter why she made it... yes, it's sweet that she's honoring her grandfather... but it's hideous. The reason for making something has NOTHING to do with whether that something is marketable or smackable.
And to whoever said that she's "not trying to drive traffic to her store/etc." by making this, GET A CLUE. Designers don't design things for no reason at all. If all she'd wanted to do was honor her late grandfather, she could have written an ode to him on her blog, and posted a few photos. She chose, however, to honor him by making that kit. There's marketing/business there, for sure. Don't kid yourself. She even said it wasn't her scrapping style, so she sure as hell didn't make it for her own fun use.
Or she could've just kept the thing to herself to use, if she could, on layouts about him.
Oh come on, every kit/product is made in honor of SOMETHING. It doesn't matter why she made it... yes, it's sweet that she's honoring her grandfather... but it's hideous. The reason for making something has NOTHING to do with whether that something is marketable or smackable.
And to whoever said that she's "not trying to drive traffic to her store/etc." by making this, GET A CLUE. Designers don't design things for no reason at all. If all she'd wanted to do was honor her late grandfather, she could have written an ode to him on her blog, and posted a few photos. She chose, however, to honor him by making that kit. There's marketing/business there, for sure. Don't kid yourself. She even said it wasn't her scrapping style, so she sure as hell didn't make it for her own fun use.
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I disagree. Selling and marketing do not have to be the driving forces behind designing. And yeah, she could have written something about her grandfather on her blog and posted pictures of him, but maybe she felt better able to express her emotions and feelings and memories in the form of creating a kit. If she loves designing, loves the process and really put her heart into it, maybe that means more than writing a blog blurb and posting photos. It's a creative process, and who are you to judge her motive? I don't think the kit is in anyway good either, but she made it in honor of her grandfather's memory, and as a designer myself, I can confidently say that your statement about designers only designing to sell and bring traffic to their stores is so off-base. That's like saying an author only writes to sell books and articles, which is completely untrue as well. I'm sure that's true for some (of course the ones who ARE doing it for the paycheck only), but it's not true for everyone--or for the people who truly love creating. It's an art, and true artists, whether good or bad or anywhere in between, will create with or without an audience or someone to hand over cash for what they've created. And no, I'm not the designer in question and I'm not affiliated with her in anyway (not that it would matter if I was, but since many on this blog seem obsessive about assuming things like that, I thought I would clarify). I just don't think you should be questioning her intentions in this situation and for something as sensitive as her creating a tribute to a loved one no longer here.
If you don't think the featured designers at DST are worth that much or their kits are not the best you can think of, it is time for you to suggest your favorite designers:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=286398
Go ahead, and suggest someone you think will do something great for a kit.
What do you do when a store owner won't stop harassing you? I have a store owner who when I left the store, argued with me about why I was leaving, and now won't stop emailing me about how rude I am and how I must not be a personal person since I left for lack of payment. Just curious as to how I can rid myself of this pest.
What do you do when a store owner won't stop harassing you? I have a store owner who when I left the store, argued with me about why I was leaving, and now won't stop emailing me about how rude I am and how I must not be a personal person since I left for lack of payment. Just curious as to how I can rid myself of this pest.
September 7, 2011 11:08 AM
Stop responding to her emails and block her email address. Done.
Would love to know what that store owner is so I know who to avoid.
You left because she wouldn't/didn't pay you... and yet SHE is the one constantly contacting YOU?! Do explain further, b/c that just doesn't make a lot of sense.
I disagree. Selling and marketing do not have to be the driving forces behind designing. And yeah, she could have written something about her grandfather on her blog and posted pictures of him, but maybe she felt better able to express her emotions and feelings and memories in the form of creating a kit. If she loves designing, loves the process and really put her heart into it, maybe that means more than writing a blog blurb and posting photos. It's a creative process, and who are you to judge her motive? I don't think the kit is in anyway good either, but she made it in honor of her grandfather's memory, and as a designer myself, I can confidently say that your statement about designers only designing to sell and bring traffic to their stores is so off-base. That's like saying an author only writes to sell books and articles, which is completely untrue as well. I'm sure that's true for some (of course the ones who ARE doing it for the paycheck only), but it's not true for everyone--or for the people who truly love creating. It's an art, and true artists, whether good or bad or anywhere in between, will create with or without an audience or someone to hand over cash for what they've created. And no, I'm not the designer in question and I'm not affiliated with her in anyway (not that it would matter if I was, but since many on this blog seem obsessive about assuming things like that, I thought I would clarify). I just don't think you should be questioning her intentions in this situation and for something as sensitive as her creating a tribute to a loved one no longer here.
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You can disagree all you want, and throw rose petals around and conjure up unicorns, too... but that doesn't change the fact that anytime a designer creates something and then DISPLAYS IT FOR THE WORLD TO SEE (as opposed to simply creating for herself and keeping it on her own HD), she's looking for positive reinforcement of some sort. I didn't say it was only about money, so don't automatically go there. But posting a design for EVERYONE to see is a way to invite feedback... sometimes the feedback is in sales, and sometimes it's in blog comments ("oh, how cute!!!" etc. ad nauseum), and so on.
You simply don't spend time working on something and then posting it publicly unless you WANT FEEDBACK of some sort. Otherwise you'd keep it to yourself.
Further, as a designer, I can say 100% that I would NEVER post something if I didn't like the result. Everything I show the world represents me and my designs, and I know that.
You can disagree all you want, and throw rose petals around and conjure up unicorns, too... but that doesn't change the fact that anytime a designer creates something and then DISPLAYS IT FOR THE WORLD TO SEE (as opposed to simply creating for herself and keeping it on her own HD), she's looking for positive reinforcement of some sort. I didn't say it was only about money, so don't automatically go there. But posting a design for EVERYONE to see is a way to invite feedback... sometimes the feedback is in sales, and sometimes it's in blog comments ("oh, how cute!!!" etc. ad nauseum), and so on.
You simply don't spend time working on something and then posting it publicly unless you WANT FEEDBACK of some sort. Otherwise you'd keep it to yourself.
Further, as a designer, I can say 100% that I would NEVER post something if I didn't like the result. Everything I show the world represents me and my designs, and I know that.
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That's a fair point, and I agree about not posting something if you don't like the result and/or quality. I was simply trying to point out that it wasn't necessarily posted to generate customers and traffic to her store, that's all.
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Cool. Truce. ;-)
Let's just say if her creativity flies it's on a broomstick.
Let's just say if her creativity flies it's on a broomstick.
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Huh?
I didn't get that either.
Let's just say if her creativity flies it's on a broomstick.
September 7, 2011 4:09 PM
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Is this about the store owner or the post about the kit?
It was about the store owner, I'm going to take the advice given and block her email. Thanks!
She's saying the store is Divine Digital.
Oh come on, every kit/product is made in honor of SOMETHING.
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Oh come on, no they aren't. Unless of course you are referring to the honor of the paycheck, then yes, every kit is made in honor of something.
If all she'd wanted to do was honor her late grandfather, she could have written an ode to him on her blog, and posted a few photos. She chose, however, to honor him by making that kit.
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Maybe that's her ode, maybe that's the only way she knows how to honor him. Not everyone is mercenary.
And before anyone corrects me on my use of mercenary, I'm including a link to the definition
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mercenary
I was simply trying to point out that it wasn't necessarily posted to generate customers and traffic to her store, that's all.
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Agreed.
It was about the store owner, I'm going to take the advice given and block her email.
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I can't believe you actually needed that advice, you couldn't figure that out for yourself?
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No joke. *sigh*
The reason I came on here to ask was I was hoping to actually get some REAL advice, without having to disclose who I was, about what to do about the situation. Obviously I already knew how to block and email. Contrary to your belief, I'm not an idiot.
I didn't, however, want it to be an issue and smack fest about the owner. That's why I cut it short. I already know how you all feel about her.
I'm also a little concerned that she might be talking to other people effecting my future of getting into other stores.
Now whether she has that kind of "clout" or not, I don't know. However, it would've been nice to get THAT kind of advice instead of the obvious.
But I suppose that's my fault for not asking for that directly.
If it is Royanna, then no she does not have that kind of "clout". I have yet to encounter a person who takes her seriously. Block her and be done.
If it is Royanna, then no she does not have that kind of "clout". I have yet to encounter a person who takes her seriously. Block her and be done.
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As a store owner, I can say without a doubt, that this is true. Make sure you keep all of your communication, just as a back up.
Good luck to you finding a more appropriate store for your talent.
Winners for DSA are up, since I know some of you will be curious and no doubt, pissy, but that's to be expected. :)
http://www.digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24138
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Why would you come here, posting as yourself, and purposely write something inflammatory when nobody has yet said boo to you about this?! It's like you're actually inviting drama. Don't poke the bear, you moron. You're inviting whatever comes your way.
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Nobody can be sure it is Sara here. Don't you think there could be someone here who COULD log in and identify herself as Sara to stir shit and get Sara blamed. Don't believe everything you see on the net, including the poster's name. It is sooooo easy to fake online.
You don't even have to login, you just type it as a name. See I'm Bob.
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Normally I like Dawn Inskip's stuff but this newest kit is hideous. Especially the colors. Yuck.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=97230&title=diva-collection&cat=523
I agree on first look and I normally like Dawn Inskip's stuff too. But when I looked at the sample layouts, I thought the kit wasn't that bad. Maybe a case of poor preview design - it definitely isn't very inviting!
So VERY happy that Damsel did poorly. She was a seasoned designer and didn't deserve anything.
Normally I like Dawn Inskip's stuff but this newest kit is hideous. Especially the colors. Yuck.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=97230&title=diva-collection&cat=523
September 8, 2011 3:35 PM
Anonymous Souxie said...
I agree on first look and I normally like Dawn Inskip's stuff too. But when I looked at the sample layouts, I thought the kit wasn't that bad. Maybe a case of poor preview design - it definitely isn't very inviting!
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I don't like pink and black together, it's obvious and done to death. The preview is bad but I wasn't impressed by the CT layouts either. Just a case of a great designer with an off kit.
Winners for DSA are up, since I know some of you will be curious
http://www.digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24138
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Interesting to see that everyone scored quite badly in Challenge 5 compared to the other challenges.
No they didn't. 80 was the highest they could score this round because one of the judges didn't get their scores in on time.
Round 5 was short a judge, so it was scored out of 80 instead of out of 100.
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That explains it. Thanks.
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I wonder who would be nominated for a featured designer if CTs weren't allowed to nominate their designers?
and if people weren't begging their FB fans to nominate them, too? (*cough* Chelle's Creations *cough*) There are some nominated that I really like though, and I was happy to see some template designers nominated, too. Have any template designers been featured before?
I don't think so, since the membership says members get a monthly kit. They might be pissed to get a template instead.
I wonder who would be nominated for a featured designer if CTs weren't allowed to nominate their designers?
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Seriously it's obnoxious. Especially the people who "nominated" 10 people, and have those same 10 blinkies down below in their siggie. So transparent and very annoying. Really? 10 people?
I have to agree. It's not even worth reading through them anymore. I'm so tired of the blatent advertising. Get real.
Are any of you who are complaining nominating anyone? If not, STFU. If you are, good for you.
^^^Obviously one of the CT enabling their own designers.
As a designer, I would NEVER ask my CT or anyone else to nominate me. EVER. That is just disgusting and shameful!
If a CT nominates me on her own accord, that is her choice. But, I know almost all those rabid CTs were asked to do it on behalf of the designer.
I love seeing obvious CT members voting for some of their designers, but not all of them. Why are you on teams you wouldn't nominate if you're going to take the time to do it anyway?
The DST thing is laughable...but I haven't been there in ages so I realize I have no room to talk.
Meanwhile, am I reading the DSA Contestant totals right? It looks like the new designers at Digiscrap Addicts would have been better off if there had been no division between the new and established designers.
2 AM Designs was one of my favorites and if DSA had done the winners proportionally 4 or 5 from the new category and 1 or 2 from the established, or if they had just lumped them all together, she would have been a winner.
No relation, no ax to grind
^^^Obviously one of the CT enabling their own designers.
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Ha, so wrong. I haven't been to DST in almost a year.
Obviously you are ... well, you work it out, since you seem to think everything is so obvious.
Are any of you who are complaining nominating anyone? If not, STFU. If you are, good for you.
September 9, 2011 10:38 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
^^^Obviously one of the CT enabling their own designers.
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No, just damn bored with the whining. If you aren't doing anything about it, STFU. You don't care enough to change it, so quit the complaining. It's boring.
If you're tired of the complaining stop coming to a smack blog.
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It's not all complaints. More happens here than that.
If you're tired of the complaining stop coming to a smack blog.
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Brilliant suggestion. The only thing that ever happens on this blog is the complaining about the DST featured designer! Thank you so much for your most excellent suggestion.
IMO it would actually be smart of DST to ONLY allow gold/diamond members to nominate designers to be featured. Those are the only people it really matters to anyway, in that they get the free kit each month. Other than that, why would DST care whether CTs want their designer nominated? The process should be closed to everyone except the DST gold and diamond members. And no, I am not one... just a designer who would be really, really interested to see what regular customers would like (and not just CTs/designers).
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I'm sure that would cut down a bunch of the rabid CT since you know the only reason they CT is because they're not going to pay money for anything. They certainly aren't going to buy gold or diamond memberships.
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Anyone thought of PMing Wendyzine with that suggestion since she is the one who started the thread? Believe it or not, sometimes, some posters here DO have good ideas. Why keep them on the smack blog? Share them where they can be put to good use. That is not complaining if there is a suggestion to make something better. Go for it. Wendy does not bite.
IMO it would actually be smart of DST to ONLY allow gold/diamond members to nominate designers to be featured. Those are the only people it really matters to anyway, in that they get the free kit each month. Other than that, why would DST care whether CTs want their designer nominated? The process should be closed to everyone except the DST gold and diamond members. And no, I am not one... just a designer who would be really, really interested to see what regular customers would like (and not just CTs/designers).
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I like that idea too. It makes sense though, so it probably won't happen. Let the people who are paying for the product choose what they want.
LOL, just reading thru the obvious CT pimping in that featured designers thread. Anyone notice that chick "merchi" who got the special treatment during SM's last designer apprentice contest?
Since when does she spell her name Kairyn instead of Karen? Seems a bit odd to me.
WV= outter (not kidding)
There are a lot of really "newish" designers being suggested for that featured designer thing. I sure hope the powers at DST look into a designer's history before choosing. I believe you should have to pay your dues a bit before you get such a prominent feature spot.
Etc by Danyale, Band Geek, Dream Big and several others have only been around for something like six months, as far as I know. There are far better designers in the so-called "top" stores that haven't been featured yet, and those designers have been selling for several years.
They are not going to look at anything. It is a popularity vote - so if Band Geek or whoever has the most votes, they win. So if you don't see your favorite designers listed, go nominate.
Dream Big has been around for a couple years. Horrid quality awhile ago, not sure what it's like now though because I swore I wouldn't buy from her again.
So if you could nominate someone who hasn't been featured before... who would it be? I'm a designer so I'm not going to go nominate anyone, but I am curious to know who the rest of you are interested in (of anyone who hasn't been featured before... there's a list at the beginning of the DST thread).
Meanwhile, am I reading the DSA Contestant totals right? It looks like the new designers at Digiscrap Addicts would have been better off if there had been no division between the new and established designers.
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While I see nothing wrong with the division, I also think that judges will have judged differently based on perceived experience
I'm thinking it would be nice if, when DST goes through the nomination thread, they ignored any nominations from designers' CT members. I know it won't ever happen, but it would be an interesting list if you took those posts out.
One Little Bird and no I'm not a ct.
Personally I don't mind making a newer designer a Featured Designer. It might be nice to get introduced to some newer designers instead of the same old designers we already know and have already been interviewed before elsewhere.
Is being a DST featured designer such a good thing? What does the designer get out of it? From what I can tell, they have to make a full kit to give away for free and for that they get...???
Advertising. Customers who actually BUY products (obviously, since they bought the diamond/gold membership) are getting the kit, and then some may go shop from that designer. Plus being featured means you are on the front page, so when someone loads the front page of DST, they see your name, photo, etc.
You probably don't want to click on Sweet MESSquite's link. It's porn. You're a sick idiot, BTW. I have children playing here in this room. Thanks for being responsible for them almost seeing that. You might feel like porn is fine to show small children, but I don't. Think before you do things like that dumbass.
I would never pay, for one month's advertising, what I'd get for selling a kit in my store. Totally not worth it to me.
I do have a diamond membership,for over 4yrs now. it has introduced me to some of my favourite designers over the years. I agree with whoever suggested that only dst gold/diamond members get to choose, cause I would be super pissed if some of those crappy suggestions got a guest spot .
I would love to see a kit by Anne Aspne, or katie pertit. will pop over to dst and hope that the powers that be have some sense to select quality designers......
I hope so. There are seriously several nominated who I've never heard of before... and I don't think I want to see again!
Eye ball warning.
http://divadesignz.net/
You can always tell when a designer has posted in her forum to have her team go nominate her. All of the sudden there are like 5 nominations for some off the wall designer. Ex Keystone Scraps and Kellybell.
Eye ball warning.
http://divadesignz.net/
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AHHHHHH, I'm blind, I'm blind.......
Anonymous Sweet MESSquite said...
Advertising. Customers who actually BUY products (obviously, since they bought the diamond/gold membership) are getting the kit, and then some may go shop from that designer. Plus being featured means you are on the front page, so when someone loads the front page of DST, they see your name, photo, etc.
September 10, 2011 5:00 PM
What is your deal? Seriously?
You probably don't want to click on Sweet MESSquite's link. It's porn. You're a sick idiot, BTW. I have children playing here in this room. Thanks for being responsible for them almost seeing that.
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You are the one responsible for that. If you had bothered to hover over the link, you would have seen that it went to a site called Kiss My Ass.
And they should disqualify all posters who just signed up to nominate a designer - it's their first post. I mean really.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can bitch and moan all you what about the featured designers at DST but if the designer you want chooses not to be featured, there's nothing anyone can do. And yes, there are designers who have declined the 'honor' of being the featured designer. This is why the featured designers over the last few years have been 'dubious'.
I would love to see Anna Aspnes or the like, but they probably wouldn't waste their time.
What's the deal with Raspberry Road? no one ever talks about her/them. Also, no one talks mush about the designers at Design House Digital? I just wondered why? The prices seem good and the quality seems passable, but what I like are the designs themselves.
No one ever talks about a lot of designers. What's your point?
Someone needs to stick to template making.
http://www.twopeasinabucket.com/shop/chrissyw/121842-digikit-icy-sweet-the-full-kit/?filters=digital-kits%2Fchrissyw
What's the deal with Raspberry Road? no one ever talks about her/them. Also, no one talks mush about the designers at Design House Digital? I just wondered why? The prices seem good and the quality seems passable, but what I like are the designs themselves.
September 10, 2011 11:07 PM
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Can't attest to what Raspberry Road's quality is like now, but I bought a CU pack of frames from her a couple years back and it was loaded with strays. I've never purchased again.
And yes, there are designers who have declined the 'honor' of being the featured designer. This is why the featured designers over the last few years have been 'dubious'.
September 10, 2011 9:51 PM
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Sounds like someone is jealous she hasn't been offered a spot. There is nothing wrong with any of the designers who had a spot this year or last. They might not be your taste or favorite designer, but that doesn't make them unworthy or "dubious" of being featured.
Any smart designer who is trying to grow her business would jump at the opportunity to gain that much exposure to people who might not have noticed her work before. Some designers think they are "above it" or something? Well, that makes them little more than a snobby, short-sighted business owner. I'm hardly impressed that "some have declined it." Whatever.
I'm not a designer. It's not always about jealousy. Think outside the box every now and again.
I put the word dubious in quotes as that is what people on this blog were implying. You did the see the quotes, didn't you?
Yes, some designers have declined because it wasn't worth their time. They don't think they are above it. A smart designer would weigh all her options, base her decisions on previous experiences with exposure on DST through ad spaces etc. not leap on a pointless opportunity. Not all 'opportunities' are created equal.
You seem to be under the illusion that DST is actually still the hub of the digital community.
I'm hardly impressed that "some have declined it." Whatever.
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What does this even mean? It's such a pointless statement.
Sounds like someone is jealous she hasn't been offered a spot.
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Oh yeah, fer sure. I'm so jealous, I can't even begin to tell you how jealous I am. I so incredibly jealous that no one has asked me to make a kit. I'm not sure why I'm this jealous, as I'm not even a designer, but there, you caught me out, I'm still jealous. Oh woe is me, oh woe. Alas alack.
Any smart designer who is trying to grow her business would jump at the opportunity to gain that much exposure
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What exposure? Have you seen the amount of views the free kits have received over the last year of featured designers? It's pretty pathetic compared to other years. It's hardly a golden opportunity.
I would never pay, for one month's advertising, what I'd get for selling a kit in my store. Totally not worth it to me.
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Never pay for what? Being a featured designer? You don't have to pay.
The reason I came on here to ask was I was hoping to actually get some REAL advice, without having to disclose who I was, about what to do about the situation. Obviously I already knew how to block and email. Contrary to your belief, I'm not an idiot.
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You came to a smack blog to get some REAL advice and yet claim you aren't an idiot. What's wrong with this picture?
What exposure? Have you seen the amount of views the free kits have received over the last year of featured designers? It's pretty pathetic compared to other years. It's hardly a golden opportunity.
September 11, 2011 1:22 AM
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That's an easy statement to make when you can't prove it. Even if you're a Diamond member, you can only see how many downloads were done over the last 12 months. There is nothing to compare it to, so you could be talking completely out of your asshole, for all I know.
Got a screenshot from three years ago showing download numbers? Yeah, I didn't think so.
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Imbelice, I never said a thing about downloads, I mentioned VIEWS!! I'm really not sure how you could misread it, I mean, they only have two letters in common.
And you need to stop obsessing about your behind, it's a little unhealthy.
Got a screenshot from three years ago showing download numbers? Yeah, I didn't think so.
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I can provide screen shots of the amount of views the kits have had, in fact, you can too. All you have to do is go and look at them.
Do you have a brain? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Imbelice, I never said a thing about downloads, I mentioned VIEWS!!
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Imbelice?!?!!!
Opinion: if you're trying to call someone a name, and the point of that name is to call them "stupid"... then you should probably make sure you're spelling it properly. Otherwise, you're the one who comes off looking like the "imbelice"! Ha ha ha ha ha! Moron.
I would never pay, for one month's advertising, what I'd get for selling a kit in my store. Totally not worth it to me.
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Never pay for what? Being a featured designer? You don't have to pay.
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Obviously you are a DST promoter. Since I don't believe that anyone is that dense.
To be a featured designer, you have to give DST a kit for their Diamond Members. You are trading the kit for the advertising. Therefore, you are paying DST whatever you would have made selling that kit in your own store.
The amount I would make selling a kit in my store, is way way more than I would consider paying for the advertising exposure I would get from DST.
Just because they don't view the kit or even the Insider doesn't mean they aren't getting exposure. Anytime someone goes to the site you see for a whole month that designer's face and their kit.
Even if they don't necessarily like the kit, that doesn't mean people aren't clicking to go to the store just to see what else is there.
Maybe not a great reward for designers who have been around for years but I'm sure some if someone was newer to design they'd appreciate the exposure.
Btw "believe you should have to pay your dues a bit before you get such a prominent feature spot." you should not quote yourself word for word when posting in dst. If it isn't you I'd be really surprised.
The amount I would make selling a kit in my store, is way way more than I would consider paying for the advertising exposure I would get from DST.
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They aren't that dense. I didn't understand you either.
Can't attest to what Raspberry Road's quality is like now, but I bought a CU pack of frames from her a couple years back and it was loaded with strays. I've never purchased again.
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Strays I could handle. It was the blurriness that rendered them unusable.
what is the freebie blog where people submit their own.. had some decent stuff on it and now I can't find it. Does anyone know?
www.digiscrapdepot.com
I have been a designer and around the community for over 5 years. I have seen only 4 designers that I recognize as a featured designer. I have often wondered why some of the very talented designers I see around have never made it to that front page. They are always young 20-something women designing cute kits. Too bad the demographic for digital scrapbooking is much more diverse that baby and child scrapbooking. Would be nice to see DST look outside the box and actually highlight strong, diverse designers who have already paid their dues.
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Couldn't agree more. part of why I don't do DST. It caters to the young and ignores the older set. If 40 is even old.
Apparently some of those "paid dues" designers don't want to be featured. Since they already have a following and are fully established they would be giving a kit away for free when they don't need to.
Yes - it is nice to see some well known faces as well but it's smart business to feature someone who is up and coming or is in trend.I'd like to see a mixture.
I'd also like to see the ct's stop nominating their own designers because I can't even take their nominations seriously and I hope DST doesn't either.
^ Agreed. Otherwise, all you have to do to be featured is have the biggest CT. I'll just have a CT call and take on everyone who applies, then I'll be in for sure!
re: 1:52 ...I was thinking this same thing earlier. LOL. For once, having 25 CT's will benefit someone *eye roll*
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