why buy a color swatch when there are so many free color palette makers out there?
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No, the question is why buy a color swatch when you can just save the preview image or take a screenshot and use the dropper to take the colors that way.
Please remove that link. That is a contribution to a charity kit for a designer names Tish who house entirely burnt to the ground. Luckily, the family was not home and was not harmed, but their dog couldn't get out and died. They lost all of their belongings as well. We all know how charity kits do not sell well due to the less than honest people out there in the past, so please have some respect and don't destroy the chances of a couple hundred dollars being raised for this family.
But isn't there only a few people who should know the link? COLS herself, the people who organise the charity, and the store. Surely it can't be that difficult to find who leaked it?
you mean easy, like finding out who leaked Dawn Inskips SBG link that was HIDDEN? That one should have been easy - SBG admin, Dawn herself or her CT. Someone obviously doesn't like COLS, but then who does?
on a side note ********
to the person who was so upset that KimB posted pictures of her son drinking - she addresses that issue JUST FOR YOU on her blog....LMAO!
No, the question is why buy a color swatch when you can just save the preview image or take a screenshot and use the dropper to take the colors that way.
^^^^^^^^^^^ Actually, most will NOT display the actual color palette on the preview for that very reason. I got one, once, with a buy my store deal (might as well take advantage of it) and the color swatches on the preview didn't match the ones IN the file so you likely cannot just use the dropper to grab them from the preview.
Well, that's just stupid. Why would you want to pay money for a color swatch if you didn't know what colors you were getting? I don't buy or use other people's color swatches, I was just pointing out (what I thought was) the obvious.
If what you say is true, this means people talentless enough to actually buy a color swatch are dumb enough to buy color combos they haven't even seen. What the fuck?
I've seen the color swatches in grab bags I've bought, similar to those glitter sheets/styles. I downloaded them and put them in the file for Photoshop to pick up. It's nice having them already done. There are so many collabs with a swatch I have to match, but occasionally I am asked for freebies with no swatch to match and I expect that's how I'll use them. I can't imagine buying them, but it's an okay thing to add to make a grab bag look bigger, or to give free with purchase (like glitter, which I also can't imagine buying on its own.)
The sunflower, not just color wise it's a different shape for a start, and ladybug are different from the ones linked too, but the leaf is definitely that leaf.
Nothing wrong with maximizing your profits, I suppose. I couldn't handle selling in more than 2 stores just because of how long it takes. You have to make the product then make a preview, then zip it, then upload it and add it to the store. Depending on what the stores' different requirements are, that could easily eat away at my sanity pretty quickly for more than 2 or 3 stores. Even if you can use the same zips, previews and TOUS with all, it's still time consuming just to get one product into several sites. That's another reason I don't understand how some designers can store hop so much. Ugh. What a pain.
Then, if you mind your business the way you should, that means keeping up with the same prices and sales and inventory and bad files and all that happy crap.
I'm in 2 stores...and it takes forever to upload (DSL) sometimes. I can't imagine having a new release and having to put it in 8 shops (Laitha is 8 that i KNOW of). and hers are huge with all those bundles...I can see her having 8 pc's, all on seperate lines , all uploading at once...LOL! I don't know how she does it either. I have a few of her CU products, and they are good - so at least she is spending time on her stuff and not just uploading :)
Maybe she has people doing it for her? Ever think of that? Obviously not, judging by your responses. There are quite a few designers who have someone in charge of their CT and handle business stuff.
Maybe she has people doing it for her? Ever think of that? Obviously not, judging by your responses. There are quite a few designers who have someone in charge of their CT and handle business stuff.
I have no idea who Laitha is.
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Um....you obviously don't design and sell in a shop. Uploading is done by the designer to a shop ftp. NO ONE but the designer is to have that uploading information. NO ONE.
Laitha lost my regard when she put some of Jaguarwoman's stuff in her kit without any kind of modification (against the TOU). Then, when Jaguarwoman asked her to remove it, she went to DST and whine that Jaguarwoman wasn't being fair, and asked for everyone's opinion on if she should really remove it. That threw Laitha's ethics into question and I'm not interested in her any more.
What's the scoop on Elemental Scraps? Anyone know?
----------- Since no scandal or anything remotely interesting has been talked about here or at DST about ES I am guessing that you must have insider information about something going on there but don’t want to outright say it
Laitha lost my regard when she put some of Jaguarwoman's stuff in her kit without any kind of modification (against the TOU). Then, when Jaguarwoman asked her to remove it, she went to DST and whine that Jaguarwoman wasn't being fair, and asked for everyone's opinion on if she should really remove it. That threw Laitha's ethics into question and I'm not interested in her any more.
Try and get the story straight. When Laitha used Jagerwoman's one item, she did change it up and Jagerwoman after the fact changed her TOU. When you buy something with a TOU that is the only TOU you have to follow. Any changes aren't retroactive. So Jagerwoman finally had it with scrapbook designers using her stuff in the "wrong" way as she never sold to them before and called us all names. Now she is still putting ads at DST though not much and as far as I'm concerned she can take her 3D crap back to her DAZ customers because her stuff is ugly.
Laitha puts out quality and has great kits and she's a heck of a nice gal who tries her best to follow the rules. When the rules changes on you in mid sale, one tends to get testy and I don't think I'd have taken the item out of my kits either as long as the TOU stated altered was fine.
^^^^^ I have read in some TOUs that "terms may change" and "you have to follow the updated TOU" at any time. That's why some designers don't include a txt file but a link to the TOU page at their site/blog. I think this is ridiculous. When I buy a CU item, I must know how to use it. I can't visit each designer's page all the time!
I have read in some TOUs that "terms may change" and "you have to follow the updated TOU" at any time. That's why some designers don't include a txt file but a link to the TOU page at their site/blog. I think this is ridiculous. When I buy a CU item, I must know how to use it. I can't visit each designer's page all the time!
They can say that but if taken to court it won't hold water. The owner of the kit with the original TOU may never know about someone changing their TOU. I continually change, add, subtract from mine and if I have a question about something someone has used I can always find out when they bought the kit to find out whether the new TOU was in force or not.
Why don't designers spend more time writing their TOU to be clear enough to avoid confusion? I've read too many CU TOU files that have made zero sense whatsoever that it's disturbing.
TOU are an important part of your business plan--one that too many designers neglect or don't consider when writing them.
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Jaguarwoman CANNOT change her TOU RETROSPECTIVELY. Only product purchases AFTER the changes are affected. She can cry all she likes but she can't sell a product for a particular purpose one week then tell the purchaser she can't use it for that purpose the next week.
where is amy stoffel going? she's leaving SO? why? http://justus-mylifeinpictures.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------- Scrapmatters - dont know why the sudden change!
where is amy stoffel going? she's leaving SO? why? http://justus-mylifeinpictures.blogspot.com/ --------------------------------- Scrapmatters - dont know why the sudden change! ------------------------ I ment to say Ive heard whispers its Scrapmatters..possibly ZigZag Scrap aswell
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Does it mean BasicGrey is going to sell at SBG? I thought it was a paper company. They do digital? ---------------------- I know a number of designers got surveys a while back from BasicGrey asking about where they get they purchase digital kits, how often they purchase, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if they were adding digital.
anyone have any experience filing a dmca (copyright complaint) with filestube? i noticed a few of my files (which had been on 4shared) suddenly showed up there. the links on 4shared are long gone, but if you do the premium download you can still (supposedly) get the files.
(i seriously can't imagine anyone playing to download stuff i gave away for free, but whatever...)
just wondering how long it takes to file the complaint and if they bother to respond.
Good! I'm glad to hear the basic opinion is that TOUs can't change retroactively. I code my file names as to how things can be used and don't open the TOU after the first time (when coding).
Basic Grey have had some digital in the past. They went digital around the time of PrimaHybrid or just after. I remember visiting the BG site and was very disappointed with what they had offer. Maybe others were too, which is why they quit.
Basic Grey have had a digital line for a while, now they are shopping around to sell it in a few stores in addition to their own site. Looks like SBG took them up on the offer.
Basic Grey has been doing digital I think a little over a year now. The paper line was great when I used paper. But the digital is pricey and some of the elements are plain not good. It would not surprise me if they has a survey on where people bought. I sure they heard all kinds of places but not where they sell. There site I am sure is not doing good selling digital and once you pay the prices for what you get they wont be doing good in any store.Just my opinion.
Try and get the story straight. When Laitha used Jagerwoman's one item, she did change it up and Jagerwoman after the fact changed her TOU. When you buy something with a TOU that is the only TOU you have to follow. Any changes aren't retroactive. So Jagerwoman finally had it with scrapbook designers using her stuff in the "wrong" way as she never sold to them before and called us all names. Now she is still putting ads at DST though not much and as far as I'm concerned she can take her 3D crap back to her DAZ customers because her stuff is ugly.
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I agree her stuff is ugly, but I don't agree with your facts.
Jaguarwoman's TOU has always said that her things can't be included as discrete items ... what that means is they can't be used without being added to something else, they can't be used as a stand alone element under any circumstances (ie: recolored and included as a discrete element).
And that is what Laitha did. She recolored it, she did not ad anything to it, and she included it as an element. (not adding anything to it makes it a discrete item)
I will give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't understand that use of the word 'discrete' but that doesn't excuse her from whining all over DST about it. When it was pointed out to her she misunderstood the TOU, she should have removed the item, not come whining looking for justification to not remove it.
Jaguarwoman clarified that TOU, she didn't change it.
I do think that the fact that she used the term 'discrete' in that way is a prefect example of her arrogance in her 'rhetoric.' She could have avoided the whole thing by using plain English from the start.
Discrete - from Merriam-Webster dictionary:
1 : constituting a separate entity : individually distinct
2 a : consisting of distinct or unconnected elements : noncontinuous
Whatever language Jaguarwoman used, isn't it the responsability of the USER to check the TOU and ask for clarification? I am sure anyone can find the definition of the word "discrete" if they are unsure of its meaning in such an "important" document. What if the TOU was written in French? would you blame the designer for the user's misunderstanding? or what if an English word had a different definition in US-English than UK-English? As far as i know, it is 'buyer beware'. Users, do your homework. If you dont read the TOU... tough for you. If you dont understand the TOU, find a clarification. If you dont... tough for you.
Any designer can put whatever they want in their TOU. And if they forbid you to use their product in creating a "whatyoumaycallit", you better make sure you know what a "whatyoumaycallit" is, and it is YOUR job to check.
Any designer can put whatever they want in their TOU. And if they forbid you to use their product in creating a "whatyoumaycallit", you better make sure you know what a "whatyoumaycallit" is, and it is YOUR job to check.
November 16, 2010 7:31 PM -------------
This!
If you, general you, don't understand something in the TOU, contact the designer, sheesh, it's not that hard, they have contact details right in the TOU. Crying about not understanding comes down to a few points
1. too lazy to understand, eg. looking up unfamiliar words 2. too arrogant to think it applies to you 3. too lazy to contact the designer for clarification.
I forgot the fourth point, too damn lazy or uncreative to make it yourself and thus avoid the whole damn misunderstanding in the first place.
I totally agree, it doesn't matter if the user (in this case Joelle) didn't understand Jaguarwoman's TOU. When she was contacted by Jaguarwoman about mis-use of the products, she should have removed them and apologized - instead she whined all over DST about it being unfair.
I stand by my original statement - Joelle lost my regard for how she acted over that situation. I don't care if she 'puts out quality and has great kits and she's a heck of a nice gal who tries her best to follow the rules.'
The rules did not change mid-sale - Jaguarwoman's TOU has had the bit about not using her products as discrete items for years. The only changes she made were in attempting to clarify what she meant by that statement.
Wow My Scrapbook Art is for sale. Does anyone go there anymore?
November 17, 2010 12:55 PM ------
I'm more surprised that it's taken this long. The few times I've dropped in over the last few months, the only really active thread has been the praise thread, big surprise.
I had many of those Basic Grey papers waaay back when I used to paper scrap. It's all old stuff! And their elements look rather boring. My $8.00 will be better spent elsewhere.
^^^^^^ And that would be the products made available at SBG?????? Definitely not the same "quality/originality/etc." as what SBG usually offers (or is it?)
Wow yeah, that Basic Grey stuff is a big disappointment. I can't believe they just stuck all their old lines in there. YEARS OLD. --------------------------------- However, if you still have some of those paper sets it could be nice to purchase the digital set if you are into hybrid scrapping. If I had a big project and wanted to add some digital to my paper layouts $8 wouldn't be too much to spend.
What do you think the marketability of a site like this is? Yes they have some members. It seems that most of the advertisers are part of the clique. Once the site sells will they still advertise there? The original draw for me was Traci and Gina. They aren't active anymore so for me the site doesn't offer anything special.
^^^^ I don't think that the advertisers are part of "the clique" because of any kind of negative reason. I was invited to advertise there and did for about 6 months, and I was definitely not part of any clique. I quit my advertising because I just didn't see that it was benefitting me in a significant way. At the same time I canceled my advertising at DST and DSA. I just felt like I was spending more than I was getting in return.
The owners at MSA were really nice while I was there, and the site is really nice imo. I just can't spend the money for so little in return.
My honest guess is that the advertisers still there, haven't left because they feel loyalty to the owners, or because they are still trying to see if it works for them. Maybe it does.
Denise Liemert and Beth Rimmer are retiring. well, Beth Rimmer says she is closing both shops at digitals and sbe, and going to a "smaller more altered and collage" type business. Deviantscrap, maybe?
ugh-Hot Topics is starting to get active again. JCSimon drives me crazy; she is hyper-partisan and bitter. Somebody needs to tell her that character assassination and throwing daggers at "repubs" as she calls them is not an effective way to advance your ideas.
I haven't been to DST in a long time, it just doesn't seem to have anything going for it, just the same old same old.
On the rare occasions I do visit DST, I actively avoid Hot Topics. Too many defective parachutes in there, you know, a mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open.
Not sure if others are aware of this particular method of piracy, which could easily become a major swapping issue ...
One of my CT members alerted me yesterday after she was "propositioned" to share digi kits by someone else on Kaboodle. (For those unfamiliar with Kaboodle, it is a universal wishlist that allows people to add any item from any online store and then share their wishlist if they like.) I checked out the person's Kaboodle page (emilyshares27's Kaboodle profile) and found she is making a habit of going around to others on Kaboodle who have any digiscrap items in their wishlists, and invites them to share/swap with her. One person she contacted posted a comment back saying that what she proposed was piracy, and this person stated she doesn't see it that way... "Sorry I look at it a little different. I spend a whole lot on digi products so I don't feel the least bit bad for sharing the kit to a couple of people." (see comments below this kit: {You} review at Kaboodle) This user has two lists on her Kaboodle - one for digikits she owns & one for digikits she wants. Clearly set up as "swapping lists".
Hopefully the majority of folks will take the honest stand, but it is worth watching to see what happens, & we can notify Kaboodle of the abuse if it looks like it starts to spread.
Unbelieveable, well, actually it is very believeable anymore on the Kaboodle thing.
Scrapable hasn't been the same since the big fiasco last year. All the 'good' designers left...leaving some pretty sad remains. All those that are there are pretty new to designing - and that JK creations....just...yuck.
forgive me for being confused but usually those who use Kaboodle for their wish lists usually only are copying the preview which is at 72 ppi. Is this gal asking for people to contact her to share parts of or the whole kit. That is insane. Didn't see the link that Cassel removed. What was it? I swear people can downright try and justify anything they do to include stealing.
Well now that you have posted the links for everyone to see, you have advertised for Miss Emily. I am sure she is making contact with new friends today. Good work raising awareness.
at the end of last January, Scrapable was sold, and the new owner shut everything down - store and forum. No one had a clue what was going on. The new owner bought it specifically to shut it down, for whatever reason. There were quite a few good designers there at the time. within ONE day, someone paid the person who shut it down, and it once again changed hands. This was January 28 - 29. Most of those "good designers" left right away, and after that those remaining also left. by "good designers" I mean "known" designers. IBDD, Victoria Feemster, JayaPrem. Scrapable is now about the equal of Enchanted Scraps.
Just looked at both the stores. I'd say Scrapable's stuff looks better than Enchanted Studio Scraps. IMO. --------------- not just your opinion. i think so too, since ESS sells circle of life, country hollow, and knittenjen.
I didn't mean one was better than the other - just...nothing spectacular. I forgot COLS is at Enchanted now. LOL ----------- neither one is spectacular, that's for sure.
Totally not dissing the charity or the idea, but why would you preview a kit that has a printer draw included with a printer draw that is not included?
Totally not dissing the charity or the idea, but why would you preview a kit that has a printer draw included with a printer draw that is not included?
I guess it's because the printer drawer included looks totally warped.
November 19, 2010 6:22 PM
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I love the idea behind the charity. And it was awesome of all of those designers to donate their time and work. The product is a really fun idea too.
Honestly though...the drawer does look warped. The perspective on it is totally odd. One would think that Maya would have realized that if the drawer that is included in the acutal download doesn't look good enough to preview the little elements, it really shouldn't be included as part of the product.
I wonder why she didn't take the time to fix the drawer rather than just tricking out the preview.
^^^^^^^^^ I didn't get the kit, but i saw the preview. Is it possible that the actual drawer included is just not big enough to display that many elements?
Yup definitely should have used the real printers drawers. What's included is definitely warped. Looks like the ends are mirror images. Someone screwed up.
I'd guess she left Scrap Orchard because Kami is a raging control freak, and a money hungry bitch that doesn't care about her designers, just her bottom line.
She has horrid people skills, and totally discounts you if you're not worth money to her.
I'm guessing Amy left for Scrap Matters to have more control of her own business, more freedom from nazi like meddling, and to work for the sweethearts that run it. As a designer I'd rather make less money and be happy in my job anyday. Lucky for me I get to do both.
Don't believe everything you hear on a smack blog. I've worked with Kami in the past and she wasn't a tyrant. My impression of her is that she seems to care a lot about her designers. I was there only for a guest spot, but she worked hard to promote them and advertise for her designers. She seemed like she was very passionate about her store, and determined to run it like a business. I left with a very positive impression of SO.
I'd guess she left Scrap Orchard because Kami is a raging control freak, and a money hungry bitch that doesn't care about her designers, just her bottom line.
She has horrid people skills, and totally discounts you if you're not worth money to her.
I'm guessing Amy left for Scrap Matters to have more control of her own business, more freedom from nazi like meddling, and to work for the sweethearts that run it. As a designer I'd rather make less money and be happy in my job anyday. Lucky for me I get to do both.
And no, I don't design for SO or SM.
November 20, 2010 5:00 PM
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If you don't work for SO how the hell would you know how Kami treats her designers?
Yup definitely should have used the real printers drawers. What's included is definitely warped. Looks like the ends are mirror images. Someone screwed up.
November 20, 2010 10:17 AM
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Yeah, it looks all bulgy in the middle. I wonder where the preview printer drawer is from?
I agree that Kami is a control freak and a bitch. I say that from a customer of SO standpoint and former player in the challenges there. I once asked a question in the forum and she jumped me for it so I quit trying to participate.
I'm not for or against Kami, as I haven't dealt with her. But, she's a control freak because she has her rules for challenges on her site? Wow, how controlling is that? Lame. And being jumped on is a matter of opinion. I've seen a lot of screaming about being jumped on, when in fact no one was jumped on. The whole fact that you said you were jumped on, shows me that you weren't. You were probably just upset about her answer. Your prerogative, but it doesn't make her a control freak and bitch.
I don't think they're bitching about the preview. You'll find that what's included is warped and not what is previewed. Charity or not, it should not be of any less quality.
bitching about a shelf thing on a product preview for CHARITY? really?
November 20, 2010 10:04 PM ----------
Why not? No one is bitching about the charity or the idea, just the product. If the product is crap, it's crap, it doesn't matter where the money is going. Sheesh. I have a right to a decent product if I hand over money.
No, I was talking specifically about the term 'being jumped on'. Nothing else. Not sure what the hell you were reading, but not my post, at least, not without your delusional reading between the lines. Way to go!
November 20, 2010 10:42 PM ----------------------------------- Not new. Old and abandoned. The forum is full of spam and the last blog post was Jan 2010.
(Reposting because my comment earlier never show up.)
That place is as dead as a dodo. I wonder what happened? Blog archives go back to July 2009 and then about six to seven months later in January 2010, it's dead.
That was my deleted post -- I left the window open and came back and it asked me if I wanted to navigate away from the page and I said yes. I thought I had posted it hours before, so I have no idea what is going on.
I was just saying I buy more from and spend more time at Scrap Matters than I do at Scrap Orchard, so to me it seems like a step up for Amy.
Then I was going to ask a question about the printer tray, but it has already been answered.
Now I'm going to comment that people on here have an outstanding collective memory. I can't believe some of the things I've read (over the past few weeks) that show me you know so much history of the Whos of Scrapsville - where they came from and how they work.
^^^^^^^ Wow! Since it just opened at another store i could have expected to see BasicGrey as a Guest designer but it looks like a full designer, and NOT exclusive????? That seems to be a first! REALLY surprising.
As a paper scrapper, I bought tons of Basic Grey stuff. Since I discovered digi 3 years ago, there's no way I'm going back to that. I have alot of those exact same collections from 3-4 years back. And at $8, no way. For $8 I can pick up way better/more stuff than that.
It's absurd for any of you to think that Basic Grey are or were going to be exclusive to SBG. And of course SBG is going to take them on as they are a name. Having said that though, I'm wondering if BG are going to be able to reach the minimum quota required and if not, will SBG dump them.
The comment about exclusivity is simply a known fact that it is a REQUIREMENT for SBG for ALL designers there so if it was the case for years and so strict that one cannot even have a personal store, it is just surprising that they would make an exception now, when they never did before (never that i heard of anyways). Many good name designers who were pretty well known HAD to leave all their other stores to meet that requirement of SBG. And since BasicGrey does not seem to be THAT original (bringing back simply old paper design as digital design), it is just... hum... odd and surprising.
^^^^^ But if SBG bends over backward to have this "designer" NOT being exclusive, possibly NOT meeting the minimum sale requirement, why are they taking them/him/her on board? Unless SBG knows something most people don't know? Are they expecting that the mere presenece of BasicGrey will attract enough visitors (if not sales) to be worth their marketing gymnastics?
it is just surprising that they would make an exception now, when they never did before (never that i heard of anyways). Many good name designers who were pretty well known HAD to leave all their other stores to meet that requirement of SBG. And since BasicGrey does not seem to be THAT original (bringing back simply old paper design as digital design), it is just... hum... odd and surprising. -------
Basic Grey is a well established name in the scrapping world. Known digi designers are really not known outside of the digi scrap world. There's the difference. I agree that the digi stuff BG is selling is old school, but they are a name and maybe SBG is hoping to attract another customer base. It's not going to work. It didn't work for Prima with Prima Hybrid (anyone remember that fiasco?) and it's not going to work for SBG either.
I've dealt with Kami over at Scrap Orchard for a long time and can only say my dealings with her were very professional. That being said I also can not say anything negative about Amy as she seems like a real sweetie. Maybe the closing the store right away was a mutual decision between both parties, not everything has a sordid story behind it.
It was not a mutual decision. But, is it standard practice in a lot of stores to close a designer's store immediately if they give notice that they will be leaving?
It was not a mutual decision. But, is it standard practice in a lot of stores to close a designer's store immediately if they give notice that they will be leaving?
November 21, 2010 9:38 PM
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No, it's not standard practice, obviously. Or why would there we be moving sales?
Well it was something bad, very bad, because I don't think they would have just out-and-out canceled her freebie for the month the way they did if it weren't.
The letter (email) they sent out said they were saddened, making it look as if it were all her decision. Of course, they had the power of the pen so they could make it look however they wanted.
I think Amy had given notice that she was moving to another store, no problem as it happens all the time. As for the closing of the store and the cancellation of the freebie I think it had something to do with the fact that she was the featured designer at Scrap Orchard for November. From a business standpoint only, it makes sense to cancel it and close the store. Why continue to promote someone who is leaving at the end of the month, instead promote the designers who are still with you. Again, this is just speculation.
^^^^^^^^^^ Especially at this time of year, when every store is already going to have a pretty full roster of special events. You don't want a retirement sale competing with other events, that could take away from the designers who are staying. This is also speculation, the previous post made me think of it.
I see Candice Wong at Scrapdish is retiring. I alway liked her stuff, and its good quality - but it was always just a bit too expensive for me. a couple elements in a CU pack for $4 was just too high at the time. She's having a 75% off sale, tho starting the 25th. I might have to go get some now!
Yeah, looking at Candice`s store, i was a bit surprised by the price tag. For 3 CU button, the initial price is $3.99. At 75% off though, it might be worth it. I`ll look into her store too (she seems to have a LOT of stuff)
Yeah, thats what I thought, too. Nice stuff...and I have purchased her stuff before, its very good quality. But it was always the pricing that got me. Sorry to see her go, but greedy bugger that I am, I'll be taking advantage of that sale. It runs thru Dec. 20th, too - so I can wait till after Black Friday.
...We are starting up a community for scrap designers to display their new products to the scrap community. The aim is to have the community act like a kind of search engine for scrap kits.
What you will receive:
Your own forum within our community to talk to your fans, advertise your stores, specials, discount codes etc.
Your own gallery which you can upload previews to and fill in key words that relate to your kits, so these can be found using the search function.
Your own blog on the site or you can link your blog to our site.
Your own profile which is customizable.
Members can subscribe to your blogs, forum and gallery so they will never miss new releases.
Your CT can have their own gallery which they can upload their scrap pages to. . . .
After the first month has finished, the charge will be $30USD per month or $20USD if you give us access to your new releases for us to scrap with and upload to your gallery.
So I pay $30 for a place to talk to my customers, a gallery, a blog and a newsletter -- all things I already have -- but if I want to give them all of my new releases it only costs me $20? I've never had to pay to give away my products before.
I wonder how many designers are signing up? I don't think I will, can't really see the value of it. Am I missing something here?
No I got it too and thought the same thing. I will not be signing up. They really need to build a customer base for designers to talk to before trying to get designers to pay for it.
ok - so "Rachness" from MScraps is guesting at SBG, right? well, guess who just put up a "closing my store at MScraps" ad at DST? Is SBG recruiting everyone? LOLOL! So help me, if they take on Connie Prince, too - well, I'll do nothing, but sounds good to say scream and pull my hair out. Don't they have enough already? Geez, they even took on Roberta McMeen (tangie baxters mom).
After the first month has finished, the charge will be $30USD per month or $20USD if you give us access to your new releases for us to scrap with and upload to your gallery.
sorry I'm still laughing over this one. I mean who is stupid enough to pay them every month when I can do all that for free through FB, my own Blog, store galleries and I can save money buy giving them my kits for free . I mean really someone is stretching it a bit or in the sauce.
I am glad I am not the only one that thought the price tag on that site was a laugh, especially considering I don't need 3/4 of what they are offering. Anybody that can afford to pay that per month, obviously doesn't need their services. It could work, they just need to rethink their plan a bit, or a lot.
Geez, they even took on Roberta McMeen (tangie baxters mom). ^^^^^^^^^^ why does that surprise you? At least she is actually a real artist, not someone just throwing CU crap together and calling it a kit. I picked up her Christmas kit and it's very beautifully done. I'm looking forward to see what she has to offer.
ok - so COLS is at it again. Here is a post from the Designers Area at DST from yesterday. and the store in question is Faith Sisters:
Ok, here we go AGAIN! This time, though, I gave a generous advance notice of resignation from a store, with the end date. I am getting ready to move and take some design classes, ( I have a lot to learn- and don't ever expect to stop learning!) so I am cutting back on my involvement in design. I expected to be able to have a closing sale and maybe add a Thanksgiving mini. I have had no real problems with the store except that I don't feel it is what it tells everyone it is, doesn't live up to it's name. But I have not voiced that before toady, so there haven't been any issues.
So I was shocked to find out last weekend that two weeks before my end date, I have no access to FTP, Admin or even the forum!! I did not get to announce the closing of my store or even talk with the DT! We had agreed upon November 30th as my closing date, with the understanding that products needed to be available for download in ftp through Dec. 15.
{Oh, FYI I have deleted her blinkie, so no it is not ESS! Trish is GREAT!}
I DID agree not to delete anything before DECEMBER 15. Well, obviously, I don't have that option now, do I? Once again, I was cut off from my store apart from what was agreed, and cannot do anything about it. YET my store is still there for HER to do what she wants! She claims it is normal procedure??
and I posted the note about Roberta McMeen. and I didn't mean there was anything wrong with her stuff - there isn't. Just that all of a sudden SBG is taking on so many new people was all I meant by that. Sometimes I should reread what I post before I hit send. :)
About the designer service site thingy..... I would never pay $30 for something like that when they are brand new and can not promise an ample return for me. Second, I would also never pay $20 for them to have complete access to whatever kits I put in there. Cheap shot at getting designers kits to do what they want with.
This seems all a little self serving to me. Not on your life will I be doing any of that!
I wonder about COLS. At a certain point, when you keep having the same problems over and over and over again, shouldn't you figure out that the thing they all have in common is YOU?
And in case someone's wondering what Tirza said about COLS, I've pasted it below. Bravo to her (Tirza) for taking on a nut case.
QUOTE: This post is IMHO. I am going to truthfully say that when a designer runs in here and posts about every store they have some trouble with, I start wondering what and who the real problem is. What problems I've had in stores I've been in I decided that it was much better to work out things as amicably as possible and not go public with my dissatisfaction. I want to examine the situation and see if the problem is me. I've chosen to quietly remove myself from stores where I just didn't fit in.
If I was ever a store owner (and I have no such intentions), I would be wary of taking on any designer who has made it a habit to publicly broadcast her problems with the different stores she is, or has been, in even with identities removed. Someone always knows who and what store is being talked about. I would have to assume that what she did to them she would do to me as soon as some problem arose. I would consider such a designer a debit and not a credit.
Misunderstandings do occur but it is much better to give the other person the benefit of the doubt, and reasonable time to respond to our concerns. Owners have other responsibilities outside their stores, sometimes of a nature we know nothing about. They may not be quickly available. Things may not always work out the way we would like, but I still consider it the better part of valor to just move on and say nothing.
COLS really is something else! She whines a lot. Did you see that she blasted DSTHOF on her website? LOL Wonder how many new viewers there are here now.
Geez, they even took on Roberta McMeen (tangie baxters mom). --------
She's been selling for them for ages under Tangie's name, so it doesn't surprise me that she's finally listed at the store. I'm just surprised it took this long.
I wonder about COLS. At a certain point, when you keep having the same problems over and over and over again, shouldn't you figure out that the thing they all have in common is YOU?
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Too true, but these sort of people never think it's them, they always think it's someone else. It sure must be a shitty world they live in where everyone is out to get them all the time.
I guess stealing something from off the web, extracting it and then giving it away as a freebie, doesn't make her, what was it, oh yes, in her words "dispicable [sic] and deceitful and dishonest"
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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What the f*** is this?
What I want to know - the person who said they'd never buy a digital kit. Why the hell do you hang at a site discussing digital kits? sheesh ...
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Because she only gets freebies and does not BUY any? Unless she gets them illegally so she still does not PAY for them.
I recognise the COL part as Circle Of Life's. Either Amanda is sharing her own kit or more likely there is an idiot here. That link should be removed.
why buy a color swatch when there are so many free color palette makers out there?
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No, the question is why buy a color swatch when you can just save the preview image or take a screenshot and use the dropper to take the colors that way.
Please remove that link. That is a contribution to a charity kit for a designer names Tish who house entirely burnt to the ground. Luckily, the family was not home and was not harmed, but their dog couldn't get out and died. They lost all of their belongings as well.
We all know how charity kits do not sell well due to the less than honest people out there in the past, so please have some respect and don't destroy the chances of a couple hundred dollars being raised for this family.
But isn't there only a few people who should know the link? COLS herself, the people who organise the charity, and the store. Surely it can't be that difficult to find who leaked it?
you mean easy, like finding out who leaked Dawn Inskips SBG link that was HIDDEN? That one should have been easy - SBG admin, Dawn herself or her CT. Someone obviously doesn't like COLS, but then who does?
on a side note ********
to the person who was so upset that KimB posted pictures of her son drinking - she addresses that issue JUST FOR YOU on her blog....LMAO!
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Would you care to share a link to her blog, please?
http://kimbsdesigns.blogspot.com/
No, the question is why buy a color swatch when you can just save the preview image or take a screenshot and use the dropper to take the colors that way.
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Actually, most will NOT display the actual color palette on the preview for that very reason. I got one, once, with a buy my store deal (might as well take advantage of it) and the color swatches on the preview didn't match the ones IN the file so you likely cannot just use the dropper to grab them from the preview.
Well, that's just stupid. Why would you want to pay money for a color swatch if you didn't know what colors you were getting? I don't buy or use other people's color swatches, I was just pointing out (what I thought was) the obvious.
If what you say is true, this means people talentless enough to actually buy a color swatch are dumb enough to buy color combos they haven't even seen. What the fuck?
I've seen the color swatches in grab bags I've bought, similar to those glitter sheets/styles. I downloaded them and put them in the file for Photoshop to pick up. It's nice having them already done. There are so many collabs with a swatch I have to match, but occasionally I am asked for freebies with no swatch to match and I expect that's how I'll use them. I can't imagine buying them, but it's an okay thing to add to make a grab bag look bigger, or to give free with purchase (like glitter, which I also can't imagine buying on its own.)
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Agreed. I like it when designers add the color swatch to their kits, but I'm okay if they don't. It's a nice touch if they do
I might be stepping on a saint's toes here, but is Flergs' stuff any good? It was hard to tell from her previews what the quality is at 100%.
Yes, her quality is good.
looks like someone went to Joanns...
http://file.walagata.com/w/haunted/wpd-ds92-preview.jpg
http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp?CATID=cat3674&PRODID=zprd_10029783a
http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp?CATID=cat3674&PRODID=xprd274768
http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp?pageName=search&flag=true&PRODID=xprd274480
http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp?pageName=search&flag=true&PRODID=xprd274576
Well, those leaves are paper scrapbook elements. Major no-no.
Maybe she read the article about copyright in that designers ezine last month and thought it was right...
The sunflower, not just color wise it's a different shape for a start, and ladybug are different from the ones linked too, but the leaf is definitely that leaf.
Maybe they aren't all from Joannes, but they are all clearly someones copyrighted embellishments.
Actually the look like knock offs of some copyrighted embellies. A knock off of a knock off, lame.
So someone tell me. is there a store that Laitha is NOT in?
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Not one she hasn't BEEN in, in some capacity.
Nothing wrong with maximizing your profits, I suppose. I couldn't handle selling in more than 2 stores just because of how long it takes. You have to make the product then make a preview, then zip it, then upload it and add it to the store. Depending on what the stores' different requirements are, that could easily eat away at my sanity pretty quickly for more than 2 or 3 stores. Even if you can use the same zips, previews and TOUS with all, it's still time consuming just to get one product into several sites. That's another reason I don't understand how some designers can store hop so much. Ugh. What a pain.
Then, if you mind your business the way you should, that means keeping up with the same prices and sales and inventory and bad files and all that happy crap.
What I don't understand is that SBB was always product exclusive. Has that changed? Isn't Scrap matters at least product exclusive?
No, ScrapMatters is not exclusive.
I'm in 2 stores...and it takes forever to upload (DSL) sometimes. I can't imagine having a new release and having to put it in 8 shops (Laitha is 8 that i KNOW of). and hers are huge with all those bundles...I can see her having 8 pc's, all on seperate lines , all uploading at once...LOL! I don't know how she does it either. I have a few of her CU products, and they are good - so at least she is spending time on her stuff and not just uploading :)
Laitha also answers email quickly and puts some thought into her answers.
I have always held her in very high regard, though her style isn't mine.
I'd rather have a life than spending all my time in front of my PC uploading and adding products to 8 stores. What a pain.
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Maybe she has people doing it for her? Ever think of that? Obviously not, judging by your responses. There are quite a few designers who have someone in charge of their CT and handle business stuff.
I have no idea who Laitha is.
What's the scoop on Elemental Scraps? Anyone know?
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What's the scoop on Elemental Scraps? Anyone know?
November 15, 2010 6:30 PM
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In what way ? selling there? buying from there? customer service?
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Maybe she has people doing it for her? Ever think of that? Obviously not, judging by your responses. There are quite a few designers who have someone in charge of their CT and handle business stuff.
I have no idea who Laitha is.
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Um....you obviously don't design and sell in a shop. Uploading is done by the designer to a shop ftp. NO ONE but the designer is to have that uploading information. NO ONE.
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Oh please, how naive are you?
Laitha lost my regard when she put some of Jaguarwoman's stuff in her kit without any kind of modification (against the TOU). Then, when Jaguarwoman asked her to remove it, she went to DST and whine that Jaguarwoman wasn't being fair, and asked for everyone's opinion on if she should really remove it. That threw Laitha's ethics into question and I'm not interested in her any more.
What's the scoop on Elemental Scraps? Anyone know?
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Since no scandal or anything remotely interesting has been talked about here or at DST about ES I am guessing that you must have insider information about something going on there but don’t want to outright say it
Laitha lost my regard when she put some of Jaguarwoman's stuff in her kit without any kind of modification (against the TOU). Then, when Jaguarwoman asked her to remove it, she went to DST and whine that Jaguarwoman wasn't being fair, and asked for everyone's opinion on if she should really remove it. That threw Laitha's ethics into question and I'm not interested in her any more.
Try and get the story straight. When Laitha used Jagerwoman's one item, she did change it up and Jagerwoman after the fact changed her TOU. When you buy something with a TOU that is the only TOU you have to follow. Any changes aren't retroactive. So Jagerwoman finally had it with scrapbook designers using her stuff in the "wrong" way as she never sold to them before and called us all names. Now she is still putting ads at DST though not much and as far as I'm concerned she can take her 3D crap back to her DAZ customers because her stuff is ugly.
Laitha puts out quality and has great kits and she's a heck of a nice gal who tries her best to follow the rules. When the rules changes on you in mid sale, one tends to get testy and I don't think I'd have taken the item out of my kits either as long as the TOU stated altered was fine.
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I have read in some TOUs that "terms may change" and "you have to follow the updated TOU" at any time.
That's why some designers don't include a txt file but a link to the TOU page at their site/blog.
I think this is ridiculous. When I buy a CU item, I must know how to use it. I can't visit each designer's page all the time!
I have read in some TOUs that "terms may change" and "you have to follow the updated TOU" at any time.
That's why some designers don't include a txt file but a link to the TOU page at their site/blog.
I think this is ridiculous. When I buy a CU item, I must know how to use it. I can't visit each designer's page all the time!
They can say that but if taken to court it won't hold water. The owner of the kit with the original TOU may never know about someone changing their TOU. I continually change, add, subtract from mine and if I have a question about something someone has used I can always find out when they bought the kit to find out whether the new TOU was in force or not.
Why don't designers spend more time writing their TOU to be clear enough to avoid confusion? I've read too many CU TOU files that have made zero sense whatsoever that it's disturbing.
TOU are an important part of your business plan--one that too many designers neglect or don't consider when writing them.
where is amy stoffel going? she's leaving SO? why? http://justus-mylifeinpictures.blogspot.com/
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Jaguarwoman CANNOT change her TOU RETROSPECTIVELY. Only product purchases AFTER the changes are affected. She can cry all she likes but she can't sell a product for a particular purpose one week then tell the purchaser she can't use it for that purpose the next week.
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I agree. the purchaser bought it with a certain understanding. That is the reason the customer bought it. You can't then change it after.
It is a bait and switch. That is not right.
Two more designers retiring, Sara Ellis + Litabells :( Must be something in the air.
where is amy stoffel going? she's leaving SO? why? http://justus-mylifeinpictures.blogspot.com/
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Scrapmatters - dont know why the sudden change!
I've changed my TOU but it's been more beneficial to my customers - they're welcome to apply the terms retroactively.
where is amy stoffel going? she's leaving SO? why? http://justus-mylifeinpictures.blogspot.com/
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Scrapmatters - dont know why the sudden change!
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I ment to say Ive heard whispers its Scrapmatters..possibly ZigZag Scrap aswell
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Scrapmatters - dont know why the sudden change!
November 16, 2010 3:31 PM
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Wasn't supposed to be sudden. I heard SO closed her store the day she told them she was planning on leaving in December.
quick note - REDJU is back!!!
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Does it mean BasicGrey is going to sell at SBG? I thought it was a paper company. They do digital?
Does it mean BasicGrey is going to sell at SBG? I thought it was a paper company. They do digital?
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I know a number of designers got surveys a while back from BasicGrey asking about where they get they purchase digital kits, how often they purchase, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if they were adding digital.
anyone have any experience filing a dmca (copyright complaint) with filestube? i noticed a few of my files (which had been on 4shared) suddenly showed up there. the links on 4shared are long gone, but if you do the premium download you can still (supposedly) get the files.
(i seriously can't imagine anyone playing to download stuff i gave away for free, but whatever...)
just wondering how long it takes to file the complaint and if they bother to respond.
Good! I'm glad to hear the basic opinion is that TOUs can't change retroactively. I code my file names as to how things can be used and don't open the TOU after the first time (when coding).
Basic Grey have had some digital in the past. They went digital around the time of PrimaHybrid or just after. I remember visiting the BG site and was very disappointed with what they had offer. Maybe others were too, which is why they quit.
Basic Grey have had a digital line for a while, now they are shopping around to sell it in a few stores in addition to their own site. Looks like SBG took them up on the offer.
Basic Grey has been doing digital I think a little over a year now. The paper line was great when I used paper. But the digital is pricey and some of the elements are plain not good. It would not surprise me if they has a survey on where people bought. I sure they heard all kinds of places but not where they sell. There site I am sure is not doing good selling digital and once you pay the prices for what you get they wont be doing good in any store.Just my opinion.
So you dont see SBG as adding a uber-talented designer nor uber-original line of products?
Doesn't that clash with what they want to achieve? (the SBG store i mean)
Try and get the story straight. When Laitha used Jagerwoman's one item, she did change it up and Jagerwoman after the fact changed her TOU. When you buy something with a TOU that is the only TOU you have to follow. Any changes aren't retroactive. So Jagerwoman finally had it with scrapbook designers using her stuff in the "wrong" way as she never sold to them before and called us all names. Now she is still putting ads at DST though not much and as far as I'm concerned she can take her 3D crap back to her DAZ customers because her stuff is ugly.
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I agree her stuff is ugly, but I don't agree with your facts.
Jaguarwoman's TOU has always said that her things can't be included as discrete items ... what that means is they can't be used without being added to something else, they can't be used as a stand alone element under any circumstances (ie: recolored and included as a discrete element).
And that is what Laitha did. She recolored it, she did not ad anything to it, and she included it as an element. (not adding anything to it makes it a discrete item)
I will give her the benefit of the doubt that she didn't understand that use of the word 'discrete' but that doesn't excuse her from whining all over DST about it. When it was pointed out to her she misunderstood the TOU, she should have removed the item, not come whining looking for justification to not remove it.
Jaguarwoman clarified that TOU, she didn't change it.
I do think that the fact that she used the term 'discrete' in that way is a prefect example of her arrogance in her 'rhetoric.' She could have avoided the whole thing by using plain English from the start.
Discrete - from Merriam-Webster dictionary:
1 : constituting a separate entity : individually distinct
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a : consisting of distinct or unconnected elements : noncontinuous
Whatever language Jaguarwoman used, isn't it the responsability of the USER to check the TOU and ask for clarification? I am sure anyone can find the definition of the word "discrete" if they are unsure of its meaning in such an "important" document. What if the TOU was written in French? would you blame the designer for the user's misunderstanding? or what if an English word had a different definition in US-English than UK-English? As far as i know, it is 'buyer beware'. Users, do your homework. If you dont read the TOU... tough for you. If you dont understand the TOU, find a clarification. If you dont... tough for you.
Any designer can put whatever they want in their TOU. And if they forbid you to use their product in creating a "whatyoumaycallit", you better make sure you know what a "whatyoumaycallit" is, and it is YOUR job to check.
Basic Grey has had digital for a while now and honestly it sucks. Not worth the money. Their physical products is 100x better.
Any designer can put whatever they want in their TOU. And if they forbid you to use their product in creating a "whatyoumaycallit", you better make sure you know what a "whatyoumaycallit" is, and it is YOUR job to check.
November 16, 2010 7:31 PM
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This!
If you, general you, don't understand something in the TOU, contact the designer, sheesh, it's not that hard, they have contact details right in the TOU. Crying about not understanding comes down to a few points
1. too lazy to understand, eg. looking up unfamiliar words
2. too arrogant to think it applies to you
3. too lazy to contact the designer for clarification.
I forgot the fourth point, too damn lazy or uncreative to make it yourself and thus avoid the whole damn misunderstanding in the first place.
I totally agree, it doesn't matter if the user (in this case Joelle) didn't understand Jaguarwoman's TOU. When she was contacted by Jaguarwoman about mis-use of the products, she should have removed them and apologized - instead she whined all over DST about it being unfair.
I stand by my original statement - Joelle lost my regard for how she acted over that situation. I don't care if she 'puts out quality and has great kits and she's a heck of a nice gal who tries her best to follow the rules.'
The rules did not change mid-sale - Jaguarwoman's TOU has had the bit about not using her products as discrete items for years. The only changes she made were in attempting to clarify what she meant by that statement.
When did the change from Laitha to Joelle? Started out saying "Laitha has lost my respect n business" now say Joelle. Which is it?
Ah .. embarrassing .. that was me being tired .. sorry .. I meant Laitha .. my deepest apologies to Joelle, whom I have no complaints about.
Wow My Scrapbook Art is for sale. Does anyone go there anymore?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/new-digital-products-33/new-nativity-scrap-kit-260741/
Because we all know that if you take a picture the image is all yours.
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That is one fugly kit. And I love that she can't spell "polka." ;)
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That is one fugly kit. And I love that she can't spell "polka." ;)
now this is ugly:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/new-digital-products-33/new-cubby-elf-penguin-ornaments-260595/
That is one fugly kit. And I love that she can't spell "polka." ;)
November 17, 2010 2:01 PM
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Considering it's a user name, it probably has another meaning. Sheesh.
now this is ugly:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/new-digital-products-33/new-cubby-elf-penguin-ornaments-260595/
November 17, 2010 3:32 PM
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The penguin is cute but the elf is just ugly.
Wow My Scrapbook Art is for sale. Does anyone go there anymore?
November 17, 2010 12:55 PM
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I'm more surprised that it's taken this long. The few times I've dropped in over the last few months, the only really active thread has been the praise thread, big surprise.
The site is not very active. Maybe new owners can get the ball going.
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I doubt it. It was only ever really active for about 8 months after it started.
BasicGrey is selling at TDC.
^^ Their kits look basic/newbie to me and they are $8!!!!!
No thank you. Not impressed.
What is TDC?
TDC = The Digi Chick
It does look pretty basic.
I had many of those Basic Grey papers waaay back when I used to paper scrap. It's all old stuff! And their elements look rather boring. My $8.00 will be better spent elsewhere.
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Agreed. While those papers would have totally sold me four years ago in digi land, they aren't grabbing me today.
For a real paper kit, $8 is a bargain, for a digi kit, it's over priced.
From the MSA sale thread:
"Buyer must purchase new vbulletin and photopost licenses."
So they're selling the name and the traffic (HA!) only.
Wow yeah, that Basic Grey stuff is a big disappointment. I can't believe they just stuck all their old lines in there. YEARS OLD.
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And that would be the products made available at SBG?????? Definitely not the same "quality/originality/etc." as what SBG usually offers (or is it?)
lol yeah I'd say it -is- the same originality and quality they usually offer
I do not see anything from GreyBasics at SBG. And the name is not in the list of designers either.
msa sale? anyone have a link for more info? please??
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They are selling at TDC not SBG.
Wow yeah, that Basic Grey stuff is a big disappointment. I can't believe they just stuck all their old lines in there. YEARS OLD.
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However, if you still have some of those paper sets it could be nice to purchase the digital set if you are into hybrid scrapping. If I had a big project and wanted to add some digital to my paper layouts $8 wouldn't be too much to spend.
MSA announcement in their forums.
http://www.myscrapbookart.com/forums/announcement.php?f=5
What do you think the marketability of a site like this is? Yes they have some members. It seems that most of the advertisers are part of the clique. Once the site sells will they still advertise there? The original draw for me was Traci and Gina. They aren't active anymore so for me the site doesn't offer anything special.
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I don't think that the advertisers are part of "the clique" because of any kind of negative reason. I was invited to advertise there and did for about 6 months, and I was definitely not part of any clique. I quit my advertising because I just didn't see that it was benefitting me in a significant way. At the same time I canceled my advertising at DST and DSA. I just felt like I was spending more than I was getting in return.
The owners at MSA were really nice while I was there, and the site is really nice imo. I just can't spend the money for so little in return.
My honest guess is that the advertisers still there, haven't left because they feel loyalty to the owners, or because they are still trying to see if it works for them. Maybe it does.
I had never even heard of that site until it went up for sale! I gotta get out more, LOL!
Has anyone made a typo when entering this site and typed blogpsot instead of blogspot??
Interesting!
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That is hilarious!
Denise Liemert and Beth Rimmer are retiring. well, Beth Rimmer says she is closing both shops at digitals and sbe, and going to a "smaller more altered and collage" type business. Deviantscrap, maybe?
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I hope so!
ugh-Hot Topics is starting to get active again. JCSimon drives me crazy; she is hyper-partisan and bitter. Somebody needs to tell her that character assassination and throwing daggers at "repubs" as she calls them is not an effective way to advance your ideas.
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I haven't been to DST in a long time, it just doesn't seem to have anything going for it, just the same old same old.
On the rare occasions I do visit DST, I actively avoid Hot Topics. Too many defective parachutes in there, you know, a mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open.
I'm sure the names and links will be removed from this thread just posted at DST in the Designers area. Might take me a couple posts to get it all in:
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CariCreates
Design Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Beautiful North Idaho
Posts: 223
Seeing Piracy on Kaboodle
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Not sure if others are aware of this particular method of piracy, which could easily become a major swapping issue ...
One of my CT members alerted me yesterday after she was "propositioned" to share digi kits by someone else on Kaboodle. (For those unfamiliar with Kaboodle, it is a universal wishlist that allows people to add any item from any online store and then share their wishlist if they like.) I checked out the person's Kaboodle page (emilyshares27's Kaboodle profile) and found she is making a habit of going around to others on Kaboodle who have any digiscrap items in their wishlists, and invites them to share/swap with her. One person she contacted posted a comment back saying that what she proposed was piracy, and this person stated she doesn't see it that way...
"Sorry I look at it a little different. I spend a whole lot on digi products so I don't feel the least bit bad for sharing the kit to a couple of people." (see comments below this kit: {You} review at Kaboodle)
This user has two lists on her Kaboodle - one for digikits she owns & one for digikits she wants. Clearly set up as "swapping lists".
Hopefully the majority of folks will take the honest stand, but it is worth watching to see what happens, & we can notify Kaboodle of the abuse if it looks like it starts to spread.
and here are the links she is referring to:
http://www.kaboodle.com/emilyshares27
http://www.kaboodle.com/reviews/you-31
People like that are sick, How can you rationalize stealing with "Well, I spend a lot of money on it." Piracy is piracy.
On another note, what in the world happened to Scrapable? It has gone from bad to worse!
http://scrapable.co/store/home.php
Unbelieveable, well, actually it is very believeable anymore on the Kaboodle thing.
Scrapable hasn't been the same since the big fiasco last year. All the 'good' designers left...leaving some pretty sad remains. All those that are there are pretty new to designing - and that JK creations....just...yuck.
RE: the kaboodle thread...yep, Cassel removed the links just a few minutes ago.
forgive me for being confused but usually those who use Kaboodle for their wish lists usually only are copying the preview which is at 72 ppi. Is this gal asking for people to contact her to share parts of or the whole kit. That is insane. Didn't see the link that Cassel removed. What was it? I swear people can downright try and justify anything they do to include stealing.
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No big deal, the links were copied here anyways.
what was the fiasco at scrapable last year? i missed that one.
Well now that you have posted the links for everyone to see, you have advertised for Miss Emily. I am sure she is making contact with new friends today. Good work raising awareness.
at the end of last January, Scrapable was sold, and the new owner shut everything down - store and forum. No one had a clue what was going on. The new owner bought it specifically to shut it down, for whatever reason. There were quite a few good designers there at the time. within ONE day, someone paid the person who shut it down, and it once again changed hands. This was January 28 - 29. Most of those "good designers" left right away, and after that those remaining also left. by "good designers" I mean "known" designers. IBDD, Victoria Feemster, JayaPrem. Scrapable is now about the equal of Enchanted Scraps.
If anyone here is unscrupulous enough to swap with MissEmily, so be it. Thieves find each other without needing a blog like this to point the way.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/why-am-i-getting-no-love-my-layouts-260933/
Desperate for attention?
Scrapable is now about the equal of Enchanted Scraps.
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Do you mean that Enchanted Scraps is not a good shop to go?
thanks for the info about scrapable.
Just looked at both the stores. I'd say Scrapable's stuff looks better than Enchanted Studio Scraps. IMO.
Basic Grey ... http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/BasicGrey-Scarlet-s-Letter-Starter-Kit.html
A real product this time.
Just looked at both the stores. I'd say Scrapable's stuff looks better than Enchanted Studio Scraps. IMO.
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not just your opinion. i think so too, since ESS sells circle of life, country hollow, and knittenjen.
I didn't mean one was better than the other - just...nothing spectacular. I forgot COLS is at Enchanted now. LOL - -
and jusme digital. she should stick to just running her shop and give up on design.
I didn't mean one was better than the other - just...nothing spectacular. I forgot COLS is at Enchanted now. LOL
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neither one is spectacular, that's for sure.
by "good designers" I mean "known" designers. IBDD, Victoria Feemster, JayaPrem.
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I only know one of those designers and that's Victoria. Who the heck are the other two?
Totally not dissing the charity or the idea, but why would you preview a kit that has a printer draw included with a printer draw that is not included?
http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Every-Little-Bit-Counts-A-Charity-Collab-for-Sick-Kids.html
I guess it's because the printer drawer included looks totally warped.
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*drawer not draw.
IBDD = Inspired by Dominic Designs...Tiffikat at Scrappity Doo Dah, and JayaPrem is there, too.
Totally not dissing the charity or the idea, but why would you preview a kit that has a printer draw included with a printer draw that is not included?
http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Every-Little-Bit-Counts-A-Charity-Collab-for-Sick-Kids.html
I guess it's because the printer drawer included looks totally warped.
November 19, 2010 6:22 PM
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I love the idea behind the charity. And it was awesome of all of those designers to donate their time and work. The product is a really fun idea too.
Honestly though...the drawer does look warped. The perspective on it is totally odd. One would think that Maya would have realized that if the drawer that is included in the acutal download doesn't look good enough to preview the little elements, it really shouldn't be included as part of the product.
I wonder why she didn't take the time to fix the drawer rather than just tricking out the preview.
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I didn't get the kit, but i saw the preview. Is it possible that the actual drawer included is just not big enough to display that many elements?
Amy Stoffel is going to ScrapMatters. Personally that seems kinda like a slight step down from Scrap Orchard.
Scrap Matters mus be doing some aggressive recruiting - maybe they are offering a better commission or something?
Yup definitely should have used the real printers drawers. What's included is definitely warped. Looks like the ends are mirror images. Someone screwed up.
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November 20, 2010 9:50 AM
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What is this? Someone was still logged in at blogger but was lucky enough to be alone here, so she deleted her comment right away! LOL!
I'd guess she left Scrap Orchard because Kami is a raging control freak, and a money hungry bitch that doesn't care about her designers, just her bottom line.
She has horrid people skills, and totally discounts you if you're not worth money to her.
I'm guessing Amy left for Scrap Matters to have more control of her own business, more freedom from nazi like meddling, and to work for the sweethearts that run it. As a designer I'd rather make less money and be happy in my job anyday. Lucky for me I get to do both.
And no, I don't design for SO or SM.
That's interesting - I hear to little abotu SO I assumed it wasn't 'smack worthy' ... guess it is after all.
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Don't believe everything you hear on a smack blog. I've worked with Kami in the past and she wasn't a tyrant. My impression of her is that she seems to care a lot about her designers. I was there only for a guest spot, but she worked hard to promote them and advertise for her designers. She seemed like she was very passionate about her store, and determined to run it like a business. I left with a very positive impression of SO.
I'd guess she left Scrap Orchard because Kami is a raging control freak, and a money hungry bitch that doesn't care about her designers, just her bottom line.
She has horrid people skills, and totally discounts you if you're not worth money to her.
I'm guessing Amy left for Scrap Matters to have more control of her own business, more freedom from nazi like meddling, and to work for the sweethearts that run it. As a designer I'd rather make less money and be happy in my job anyday. Lucky for me I get to do both.
And no, I don't design for SO or SM.
November 20, 2010 5:00 PM
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If you don't work for SO how the hell would you know how Kami treats her designers?
Yup definitely should have used the real printers drawers. What's included is definitely warped. Looks like the ends are mirror images. Someone screwed up.
November 20, 2010 10:17 AM
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Yeah, it looks all bulgy in the middle. I wonder where the preview printer drawer is from?
I didn't get the kit, but i saw the preview. Is it possible that the actual drawer included is just not big enough to display that many elements?
November 19, 2010 10:00 PM
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I don't know, but the printer drawer included is huge! Much too big to be really useful on a page.
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November 20, 2010 9:50 AM
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Don't be shy Eryn, tell us what you were going to say.
I agree that Kami is a control freak and a bitch. I say that from a customer of SO standpoint and former player in the challenges there. I once asked a question in the forum and she jumped me for it so I quit trying to participate.
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I'm not for or against Kami, as I haven't dealt with her. But, she's a control freak because she has her rules for challenges on her site? Wow, how controlling is that? Lame. And being jumped on is a matter of opinion. I've seen a lot of screaming about being jumped on, when in fact no one was jumped on. The whole fact that you said you were jumped on, shows me that you weren't. You were probably just upset about her answer. Your prerogative, but it doesn't make her a control freak and bitch.
that event notwithstanding - I've dealt with her and she is both a control freak and a bitch.
bitching about a shelf thing on a product preview for CHARITY? really?
I don't think they're bitching about the preview. You'll find that what's included is warped and not what is previewed. Charity or not, it should not be of any less quality.
bitching about a shelf thing on a product preview for CHARITY? really?
November 20, 2010 10:04 PM
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Why not? No one is bitching about the charity or the idea, just the product. If the product is crap, it's crap, it doesn't matter where the money is going. Sheesh. I have a right to a decent product if I hand over money.
And another new digi-store....
http://daydreamerdesignworks.com/shoppe/
"The whole fact that you said you were jumped on, shows me that you weren't."
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What crazy kind of logic is that?
So if anyone says they didn't do something, or that something didn't happen, you automatically know that they did do it, or it really did happen?
You fail at logic, and are obviously damaged and pitiable.
I wonder who would be so upset by that post that their logic would fly right out the window while they're blindly reacting and lashing out?
And another new digi-store....
http://daydreamerdesignworks.com/shoppe/
November 20, 2010 10:42 PM
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that store has been around for months! maybe even a year
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No, I was talking specifically about the term 'being jumped on'. Nothing else. Not sure what the hell you were reading, but not my post, at least, not without your delusional reading between the lines. Way to go!
ou fail at logic, and are obviously damaged and pitiable.
I wonder who would be so upset by that post that their logic would fly right out the window while they're blindly reacting and lashing out?
November 20, 2010 10:48 PM
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Judgmental much? I pity you, indeed I do.
And another new digi-store....
http://daydreamerdesignworks.com/shoppe/
November 20, 2010 10:42 PM
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that store has been around for months! maybe even a year
November 21, 2010 12:08 AM
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If you go by the forum, it's been around since September 2009, if not longer.
And another new digi-store....
http://daydreamerdesignworks.com/shoppe/
November 20, 2010 10:42 PM
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Not new. Old and abandoned. The forum is full of spam and the last blog post was Jan 2010.
(Reposting because my comment earlier never show up.)
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That place is as dead as a dodo. I wonder what happened? Blog archives go back to July 2009 and then about six to seven months later in January 2010, it's dead.
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November 20, 2010 9:50 AM
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Don't be shy Eryn, tell us what you were going to say.
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Damn it!! lol
nothing much...just agreeing with the warped drawer..but freaked when I saw my name!
That was my deleted post -- I left the window open and came back and it asked me if I wanted to navigate away from the page and I said yes. I thought I had posted it hours before, so I have no idea what is going on.
I was just saying I buy more from and spend more time at Scrap Matters than I do at Scrap Orchard, so to me it seems like a step up for Amy.
Then I was going to ask a question about the printer tray, but it has already been answered.
Now I'm going to comment that people on here have an outstanding collective memory. I can't believe some of the things I've read (over the past few weeks) that show me you know so much history of the Whos of Scrapsville - where they came from and how they work.
So who IS who of scrapsville, HMMM? LOL Too funny.
I'm me of somewhereland, I guess.
Damn it!! lol
nothing much...just agreeing with the warped drawer..but freaked when I saw my name!
November 21, 2010 5:30 AM
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Good on ya!
they're open at SBG. So much for exclusive. http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/Basic-Grey/
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Wow! Since it just opened at another store i could have expected to see BasicGrey as a Guest designer but it looks like a full designer, and NOT exclusive????? That seems to be a first! REALLY surprising.
As a paper scrapper, I bought tons of Basic Grey stuff. Since I discovered digi 3 years ago, there's no way I'm going back to that. I have alot of those exact same collections from 3-4 years back. And at $8, no way. For $8 I can pick up way better/more stuff than that.
It's absurd for any of you to think that Basic Grey are or were going to be exclusive to SBG. And of course SBG is going to take them on as they are a name. Having said that though, I'm wondering if BG are going to be able to reach the minimum quota required and if not, will SBG dump them.
The comment about exclusivity is simply a known fact that it is a REQUIREMENT for SBG for ALL designers there so if it was the case for years and so strict that one cannot even have a personal store, it is just surprising that they would make an exception now, when they never did before (never that i heard of anyways). Many good name designers who were pretty well known HAD to leave all their other stores to meet that requirement of SBG. And since BasicGrey does not seem to be THAT original (bringing back simply old paper design as digital design), it is just... hum... odd and surprising.
Having said that though, I'm wondering if BG are going to be able to reach the minimum quota required and if not, will SBG dump them.
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I think not, obviously they're above those sort of requirements :)
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But if SBG bends over backward to have this "designer" NOT being exclusive, possibly NOT meeting the minimum sale requirement, why are they taking them/him/her on board? Unless SBG knows something most people don't know? Are they expecting that the mere presenece of BasicGrey will attract enough visitors (if not sales) to be worth their marketing gymnastics?
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Probably.
it is just surprising that they would make an exception now, when they never did before (never that i heard of anyways). Many good name designers who were pretty well known HAD to leave all their other stores to meet that requirement of SBG. And since BasicGrey does not seem to be THAT original (bringing back simply old paper design as digital design), it is just... hum... odd and surprising.
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Basic Grey is a well established name in the scrapping world. Known digi designers are really not known outside of the digi scrap world. There's the difference. I agree that the digi stuff BG is selling is old school, but they are a name and maybe SBG is hoping to attract another customer base. It's not going to work. It didn't work for Prima with Prima Hybrid (anyone remember that fiasco?) and it's not going to work for SBG either.
I've dealt with Kami over at Scrap Orchard for a long time and can only say my dealings with her were very professional.
That being said I also can not say anything negative about Amy as she seems like a real sweetie.
Maybe the closing the store right away was a mutual decision between both parties, not everything has a sordid story behind it.
It was not a mutual decision. But, is it standard practice in a lot of stores to close a designer's store immediately if they give notice that they will be leaving?
is it standard practice in a lot of stores to close a designer's store immediately if they give notice that they will be leaving?
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No, that is not standard practice in this industry.
It was not a mutual decision. But, is it standard practice in a lot of stores to close a designer's store immediately if they give notice that they will be leaving?
November 21, 2010 9:38 PM
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How do you know it wasn't a mutual decision?
No, it's not standard practice, obviously. Or why would there we be moving sales?
Well it was something bad, very bad, because I don't think they would have just out-and-out canceled her freebie for the month the way they did if it weren't.
The letter (email) they sent out said they were saddened, making it look as if it were all her decision. Of course, they had the power of the pen so they could make it look however they wanted.
I think Amy had given notice that she was moving to another store, no problem as it happens all the time.
As for the closing of the store and the cancellation of the freebie I think it had something to do with the fact that she was the featured designer at Scrap Orchard for November. From a business standpoint only, it makes sense to cancel it and close the store. Why continue to promote someone who is leaving at the end of the month, instead promote the designers who are still with you.
Again, this is just speculation.
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Especially at this time of year, when every store is already going to have a pretty full roster of special events. You don't want a retirement sale competing with other events, that could take away from the designers who are staying. This is also speculation, the previous post made me think of it.
I see Candice Wong at Scrapdish is retiring. I alway liked her stuff, and its good quality - but it was always just a bit too expensive for me. a couple elements in a CU pack for $4 was just too high at the time. She's having a 75% off sale, tho starting the 25th. I might have to go get some now!
Yeah, looking at Candice`s store, i was a bit surprised by the price tag. For 3 CU button, the initial price is $3.99. At 75% off though, it might be worth it. I`ll look into her store too (she seems to have a LOT of stuff)
Yeah, thats what I thought, too. Nice stuff...and I have purchased her stuff before, its very good quality. But it was always the pricing that got me. Sorry to see her go, but greedy bugger that I am, I'll be taking advantage of that sale. It runs thru Dec. 20th, too - so I can wait till after Black Friday.
http://www.scrapdish.com/store/product.php?productid=4948&cat=0&page=1 $2.99 for one flower. Even with 75% off, that's still overpriced.
I just received this in my inbox:
...We are starting up a community for scrap designers to display their new products to the scrap community. The aim is to have the community act like a kind of search engine for scrap kits.
What you will receive:
Your own forum within our community to talk to your fans, advertise your stores, specials, discount codes etc.
Your own gallery which you can upload previews to and fill in key words that relate to your kits, so these can be found using the search function.
Your own blog on the site or you can link your blog to our site.
Your own profile which is customizable.
Members can subscribe to your blogs, forum and gallery so they will never miss new releases.
Your CT can have their own gallery which they can upload their scrap pages to. . . .
After the first month has finished, the charge will be $30USD per month or $20USD if you give us access to your new releases for us to scrap with and upload to your gallery.
So I pay $30 for a place to talk to my customers, a gallery, a blog and a newsletter -- all things I already have -- but if I want to give them all of my new releases it only costs me $20? I've never had to pay to give away my products before.
I wonder how many designers are signing up? I don't think I will, can't really see the value of it. Am I missing something here?
No I got it too and thought the same thing. I will not be signing up. They really need to build a customer base for designers to talk to before trying to get designers to pay for it.
ok - so "Rachness" from MScraps is guesting at SBG, right? well, guess who just put up a "closing my store at MScraps" ad at DST? Is SBG recruiting everyone? LOLOL! So help me, if they take on Connie Prince, too - well, I'll do nothing, but sounds good to say scream and pull my hair out. Don't they have enough already? Geez, they even took on Roberta McMeen (tangie baxters mom).
After the first month has finished, the charge will be $30USD per month or $20USD if you give us access to your new releases for us to scrap with and upload to your gallery.
sorry I'm still laughing over this one. I mean who is stupid enough to pay them every month when I can do all that for free through FB, my own Blog, store galleries and I can save money buy giving them my kits for free . I mean really someone is stretching it a bit or in the sauce.
I am glad I am not the only one that thought the price tag on that site was a laugh, especially considering I don't need 3/4 of what they are offering. Anybody that can afford to pay that per month, obviously doesn't need their services. It could work, they just need to rethink their plan a bit, or a lot.
Ya gotta have more designers if you're going to make a profit in this economy.
Rachness's doodles won't pass QC at my store...too many jaggie edges.
Geez, they even took on Roberta McMeen (tangie baxters mom).
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why does that surprise you? At least she is actually a real artist, not someone just throwing CU crap together and calling it a kit. I picked up her Christmas kit and it's very beautifully done. I'm looking forward to see what she has to offer.
ok - so COLS is at it again. Here is a post from the Designers Area at DST from yesterday. and the store in question is Faith Sisters:
Ok, here we go AGAIN! This time, though, I gave a generous advance notice of resignation from a store, with the end date. I am getting ready to move and take some design classes, ( I have a lot to learn- and don't ever expect to stop learning!) so I am cutting back on my involvement in design. I expected to be able to have a closing sale and maybe add a Thanksgiving mini.
I have had no real problems with the store except that I don't feel it is what it tells everyone it is, doesn't live up to it's name. But I have not voiced that before toady, so there haven't been any issues.
So I was shocked to find out last weekend that two weeks before my end date, I have no access to FTP, Admin or even the forum!! I did not get to announce the closing of my store or even talk with the DT! We had agreed upon November 30th as my closing date, with the understanding that products needed to be available for download in ftp through Dec. 15.
{Oh, FYI I have deleted her blinkie, so no it is not ESS! Trish is GREAT!}
I DID agree not to delete anything before DECEMBER 15. Well, obviously, I don't have that option now, do I?
Once again, I was cut off from my store apart from what was agreed, and cannot do anything about it. YET my store is still there for HER to do what she wants! She claims it is normal procedure??
so, to that , I say BRAVO to Tirza!
and I posted the note about Roberta McMeen. and I didn't mean there was anything wrong with her stuff - there isn't. Just that all of a sudden SBG is taking on so many new people was all I meant by that. Sometimes I should reread what I post before I hit send. :)
About the designer service site thingy..... I would never pay $30 for something like that when they are brand new and can not promise an ample return for me.
Second, I would also never pay $20 for them to have complete access to whatever kits I put in there. Cheap shot at getting designers kits to do what they want with.
This seems all a little self serving to me. Not on your life will I be doing any of that!
I didn't get the designer email (guess I'm just not cool enough) but who is putting this out?
I wonder about COLS. At a certain point, when you keep having the same problems over and over and over again, shouldn't you figure out that the thing they all have in common is YOU?
And in case someone's wondering what Tirza said about COLS, I've pasted it below. Bravo to her (Tirza) for taking on a nut case.
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This post is IMHO. I am going to truthfully say that when a designer runs in here and posts about every store they have some trouble with, I start wondering what and who the real problem is. What problems I've had in stores I've been in I decided that it was much better to work out things as amicably as possible and not go public with my dissatisfaction. I want to examine the situation and see if the problem is me. I've chosen to quietly remove myself from stores where I just didn't fit in.
If I was ever a store owner (and I have no such intentions), I would be wary of taking on any designer who has made it a habit to publicly broadcast her problems with the different stores she is, or has been, in even with identities removed. Someone always knows who and what store is being talked about. I would have to assume that what she did to them she would do to me as soon as some problem arose. I would consider such a designer a debit and not a credit.
Misunderstandings do occur but it is much better to give the other person the benefit of the doubt, and reasonable time to respond to our concerns. Owners have other responsibilities outside their stores, sometimes of a nature we know nothing about. They may not be quickly available. Things may not always work out the way we would like, but I still consider it the better part of valor to just move on and say nothing.
They were probably so excited she was leaving they just shut it right down. Yay, don't have to fire her!
COLS really is something else! She whines a lot. Did you see that she blasted DSTHOF on her website? LOL Wonder how many new viewers there are here now.
Out of curiosity what are the quotas/requirements @ SBG?
I didn't get the designer email (guess I'm just not cool enough) but who is putting this out?
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Me too. Though frankly, I have plenty of fans and followers - lol!
Probably not many. I mean, how many people actually read Circle's blog?
Geez, they even took on Roberta McMeen (tangie baxters mom).
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She's been selling for them for ages under Tangie's name, so it doesn't surprise me that she's finally listed at the store. I'm just surprised it took this long.
I wonder about COLS. At a certain point, when you keep having the same problems over and over and over again, shouldn't you figure out that the thing they all have in common is YOU?
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Too true, but these sort of people never think it's them, they always think it's someone else. It sure must be a shitty world they live in where everyone is out to get them all the time.
Is SBG recruiting everyone? LOLOL!
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I know a few store owners who were really pissed about having their designers snatched away.
holy hell!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4W-1aJ6_Eyc/TOm1ubh3S4I/AAAAAAAACKU/aPR8WtzNJPc/s1600/COLS_CF%2526Jspatulas.png
Geez, I hope that's not an indicator of her work.
I guess stealing something from off the web, extracting it and then giving it away as a freebie, doesn't make her, what was it, oh yes, in her words "dispicable [sic] and deceitful and dishonest"
Ya that's pretty indicative of her work. And she sees nothing wrong with it.
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