Here is some new space for you.
I have really lost interest in the message boards, and found that I have been getting a lot more scrapping done!
I did a quick scan at DST and the thread that jumped out at me was about MyPicTales. Seems there are more than a few gals disappointed in the product, customer service and turnaround time. Seems that the owner of MPT, and DST staff have requested that criticism be kept off the board. In my opinion she can't have it both ways. She used that board like crazy to promote her product, coupons, and now that there are service issues they are requesting they be kept private. I personally would like to know both sides of the story, and I applaud those that have publically shared their experiences, both positive and negative.
Sorry - for those wanting gossip...I am just not in the "know" - I can only speculate with the rest of you on the flight of designers from SBG etc.
438 comments:
1 – 200 of 438 Newer› Newest»If customers can't get anything done with MPT CS, why NOT got to DST!
I've ordered from them twice and both times I had issues. I contacted customer service because my order was taking so long and was told it would mail the next day which turned into weeks. With both orders I had express shipping yet it took nearly three weeks to receive the order. The prices are fantastic and the prints are gorgeous but the processing/shipping times are beyond ridiculous and the customer service is horrible. I never brought it up on DST as I kinda believe you get what you pay for. Since the prints are so cheap I guess you sort of have to deal with the long wait to receive your order. I would use them again but only if I was ordering something I didn't need in a hurry. That being said I do believe they should change the processing time on their site because it is false advertising and something should be done to fix their horrible CS.
Blog owner, thanks for the new topic.
I've never orederd from MPT but I was considering it, so I'm very interested in what people have to say.
11:26am, you said the CS is bad, how? She doesn't reply to her emails or she doesn't fix issues or what?
I guess I won't be able to get my LOs in time for Xmas if the shipping time is horrible. :(
I was really surprised at how many people said they got 3-4 extra copies of a print. Sounds like a major glitch in their system.
I'm 11:26. I had to email them repeatedly to get an answer and then they would just say oh its going to ship tomorrow which it didn't. After several emails of that runaround they would finally check the order and tell me there was a problem. The first time it was an upload issue and the second time they printed them the wrong size. I understand problems, though problems with both my orders was a bit much, but they could have contacted me and told me there was an issue. Instead I'd wait a week and end up having to email them. I haven't heard much about very long waits for calendars or books just the single page prints.
Never ordered from them and never will. I don't like the owner's attitude when she replies to threads at DST about her company. I'm tired of the excuses, if you start a business, you suck it up! If you can't handle the business, get out.
http://piratesanddrama.blogspot.com/
What do you think of this thread?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=157936
http://piratesanddrama.blogspot.com/
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Darkside owner?
I've ordered from MPT twice. I had screw ups on both orders. The issue from the first order was never resolved. I didn't bother notifying them about the issues from the second order. They are a new company and pretty much used us a guinea pigs. I don't have a problem with that. We got these prints dirt cheap. And you know what they say...you get what you pay for.
I'm not sure I would use them again.
1. I don't like resizing my layouts for the bleed.
2. I don't like how they stack a bunch and cut them at the same time. Slight movements of the paper make borders uneven and can cause white edges even if there is a bleed.
3. They do not have good quality control. For example, sending damaged layouts (happened to me), printing duplicates, printing wrong sizes (happened to me), missing some layouts, sending layouts to the wrong customer (happened to me), including plain white pages in with my order (happened to me), etc. Obviously they do not have anyone reviewing the orders prior to being shipped.
I've had WHCC call me because something close to the edge was going to be cut off and they want to give me the option of canceling print so I can correct the file if I want. They also called me once because I had accidentally used a low resolution photo on one of my layouts and they wanted to let me know before it went to print. Now that is good customer service and one I am willing to pay for.
If it weren't for DST I would have never gotten wrapped up in the MPT frenzy in the first place. They had the darned coupon in their newsletter. So if people want to discuss their issues they should be allowed to do so. IMO.
What do you think of this thread?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=157936
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I wonder why she says she doesn't know where to start. If she is on Meredith's CT why doesn't she start there?
Nothing says she has to use a coupon code for the designer she CT's for, but what a burn on that designer to post that thread.
If it weren't for DST I would have never gotten wrapped up in the MPT frenzy in the first place. They had the darned coupon in their newsletter. So if people want to discuss their issues they should be allowed to do so. IMO.
November 12, 2008 4:46 PM
ITA. If businesses like MPT are allowed to promote their business at DST, it's completely wrong of Shannon to say that customers can't discuss issues or problems.
but what a burn on that designer to post that thread.
November 12, 2008 4:54 PM
how exactly? I'm sick, so maybe that's it, but I don't get this?
I guess if one of my CT's had a coupon code for a store I sold in and posted a thread saying she didn't know where to start at said store, it would hurt my feelings.
Why should it hurt the designer's feelings? If she's on her CT she already gets all her kits for free.. so why would she go buy that person's stuff?
I don't think it would hurt the designer's feeling. It was an obvious pimp for 2peas. Who knows, maybe she meant it, but it felt like Hey everyone check what 2peas has now oh by the way, my designer is there now too.
Yep you are right. It was a blatant pimping job!
http://piratesanddrama.blogspot.com/
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Personally I am really tired of the pirates and the drama. It just is not my fight. I didn't know any of the names that were being discussed and I was starting to feel weird being caught up in all their drama.
I haven't missed the darkside a bit. In fact I have been spending my time scrapping and not gossiping and am thrilled at how many layouts I've done.
The darkside took their blog to a private forum. Sasha and Patricia havent been heard from since, which I think speaks volumes in respect to them wanting to avoid further drama. I really dont think they liked how out of hand things were getting. Looks like they wanted to avoid all the drama and yet still help the community out in a quieter manner.
Now there are all these "darkside wannabees" coming out. It's rather shameful.
I've had WHCC call me because something close to the edge was going to be cut off and they want to give me the option of canceling print so I can correct the file if I want. They also called me once because I had accidentally used a low resolution photo on one of my layouts and they wanted to let me know before it went to print. Now that is good customer service and one I am willing to pay for.
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I can attest to this. WHCC called me as well when a piece of text was about to be cut off. They asked if I could send a corrected layout so they can finish my order. WOW!!!! Now THAT's service.
What is WHCC?
http://www.whcc.com
I guess if one of my CT's had a coupon code for a store I sold in and posted a thread saying she didn't know where to start at said store, it would hurt my feelings.
November 12, 2008 6:02 PM
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Say what? If she's on her CT, why would she BUY her stuff, if she already gets it for free? Not following your logic here.
The darkside took their blog to a private forum. Sasha and Patricia havent been heard from since, which I think speaks volumes in respect to them wanting to avoid further drama. I really dont think they liked how out of hand things were getting. Looks like they wanted to avoid all the drama and yet still help the community out in a quieter manner.
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They always had the power to delete or turn off comments. It was in their hands. It was their blog. As they left all or most comments in and only rarely turned them off, I'm not seeing how they were wanting to avoid the drama.
I think they caused way more harm than good.
The darkside took their blog to a private forum. Sasha and Patricia havent been heard from since, which I think speaks volumes in respect to them wanting to avoid further drama. I really dont think they liked how out of hand things were getting. Looks like they wanted to avoid all the drama and yet still help the community out in a quieter manner.
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They always had the power to delete or turn off comments. It was in their hands. It was their blog. As they left all or most comments in and only rarely turned them off, I'm not seeing how they were wanting to avoid the drama.
I think they caused way more harm than good.
Not sure why the darkside keeps coming up?
On the MPT issue, I see no reason to try and censor posts re issues or problems. God knows we all saw enough pimping posts-it's only fair for everyone to hear the whole story.
I ordered from MPT and got multiple prints of some of my layouts. But then I went back to my MPT account and realized that I had uploaded the same layouts multiple times. There was no way to access your personal gallery, I didn't even know I had one, so I thought that I had to re-upload every time the system logged me out. They only charged me for the prints I actually ordered, but they printed every layout in my gallery even though I didn't order the multiples. I was kind of happy to have them and gave them to my mom and MIL.
It did take a long time for me to get my prints, but I didn't care because I didn't need them for any particular reason. The quality was fine, even though I didn't add bleed. My biggest problem was that the corners were crumpled during shipping. You can't see it now that they're in the scrapbooks, but I still know it's there. I'll order from them again, I'm willing to deal with the small problems because the price is right. If I had bigger issues, I'd definitely think twice about ordering again.
I was just on that pirates and drama blog link someone posted. Looks like someone is buying a bunch of stuff from stores and doing chargebacks. As much as thousands of dollars.. I hope my stores aren't affected..
I got my MPT prints today. It took about 10 days for me to receive my order and everything was there. No mistakes.
The quality is not as good as my prints from Costco (where I usually print) but for the amount of money that was saved (more than 60%) I will be using MPT again.
Does anyone know when they are going to resume individual layout printing?
6:24 PM - I guess your experience is a rare exception. Everyone I talked to seemed to have problems. Some more than others but definetly a lot of problems. Shipping times of 5-6 weeks, duplicate layouts, missing layouts, other people's layouts, white edges, cut off edges, bent edges, the list goes on.
has anyone bought from there
www.the-digi-boutique.com
and no im not on any of the cts there i just want to know if anyone has tried that store before i purchase to get the free kit.
I'd steer clear of it. Scrappy Lover sells there aka the biggest pirate ever
Well MPT does have glitches and they even send me some tubes I didnt order so now that is really strange!
Um tubes? We're not talking about that MPT... go back to your tagging.
I have to laugh when I see or hear a retailer asking for positive feedback only. Get real.
Life is not perfect. Problems happen. No matter what you do right in retail there will still be complaints because 1) not everything is perfect or 2) some people just can't be pleased.
The real litmus test of a business for me is how they handle their CS issues. If they show some maturity and grace, I'm likely to keep shopping. If they act like spoiled children who can't handle the realities of owning a business, I won't shop there.
For all of the MPT hype and promoting that went on at DST, it's pretty nervy of Prathiba or Shannon to even SUGGEST that people can't honestly relate their experiences.
Can anyone tell me the whole story about hating 2peas?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=158299&highlight=2peas
2Peas was the HUB of everything, that's where we all met.
Whenever someone would post about another digital store or designer, they would delete the posts.
It was VERY frustrating, that's the reason Shannon started DST.
We all left and never looked back.
Other than that, I don't know except their prices are ridiculous.
What the poster above said, and IMO it's probably the only scrapping site on the web that's faker, and with more cattiness and drama than DST.
But, c'est le vie. Drama and cattiness is everywhere. People suck.
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Can anyone tell me the whole story about hating 2peas?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=158299&highlight=2peas
November 15, 2008 8:16 AM
I was never part of the 2Peas mob and exodus but I was with DST almost from the beginning. I don't get the continued hating on 2Peas all the time, seems ridiculously childish to me.
I was never part of the 2Peas mob and exodus but I was with DST almost from the beginning. I don't get the continued hating on 2Peas all the time, seems ridiculously childish to me.
November 15, 2008 7:07 PM
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As you said, you were never part of the 2 peas mob, had you been you'd understand more. I think the only reason 2peas ever opened a digi section at the time was because they wanted to be first, as they were with everything. But it wasn't done because anyone wanted us there, and that was made more than clear all the time. The boards were censored continually and posts were deleted regularly. Heaven help you if you ask for something specific that one of the digi designers at 2peas didn't have. And at the time there were what, maybe 3 or 4 designers there, with unbelievable prices and little to chose from. The whole thing just sucked!
Yeah, I understand all that but it was over two years ago. Seriously, people need to let it go, what's the point of still going on about it now? I've been there done that with other boards, it happens, move on, let it go, breathe a little.
Just because we choose not to shop there and give them our money doesn't mean we haven't moved on. Two years or not doesn't change the fact that the prices are outrageous.
And as for the OP, I wouldn't order from MPT if they were giving their stuff away, simply because of the snarky attitude of the owner. I don't care that English isn't her first language, it gives her no right to be nasty and rude.
Would any designers be willing to share what % they pay to the store? I know of one store that's 20% and another that's 30% plus Paypal fees. I'm just curious if that's normal.
20 to 25 % is about normal
The highest i have ever known a store to take was 35%
veggie place takes fifty
veggie place takes fifty
November 19, 2008 1:11 PM
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holy crap?! 50% is ridiculous! I'm at two stores - not the most popular of the shops, but both are well known and have been around for a while. I pay in 20% at both, they cover all paypal fees. The first shop I was ever at was 25%. I seriously can't get over paying 50%.. hope they really do some mass selling there for it to be worth it.
veggie place takes fifty
No wonder they have to charge $15.00 a kit.
Bigger stores that usually bring in a good amount of money only charge %15.
veggie place takes fifty
November 19, 2008 1:11 PM
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And you know this how?
Two years or not doesn't change the fact that the prices are outrageous.
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A lot of their stuff isn't any more pricey than elsewhere. Sure, two years ago, they were pricey but I see of lot of product at 2peas that's $8 and less.
Hmm, new ownership at ES. I wonder if some of the download and server issues will improve now?
Joedee out of ES, means I might even shop there again. I will be checking it out when they get up and running.
They're getting moved to a new server over the next few days. ES will improve all over with Joedee gone
Does anyone now why JoeDee gave up?
AND seriously... have you seen the prices on Weeds and Wildflowers chrismtas kit???
Joedee left because she no longer has internet access and has alot going on with real life things
AND seriously... have you seen the prices on Weeds and Wildflowers chrismtas kit???
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What about em? lol... I bought 5 out of the 8 packs today because I couldn't wait for her to offer it all together. Each kit is packed and worth every penny imo.
The packs I bought for around $3.50 each are at least 30-40 ORIGINAL elements, and way more than that with different versions. I pay that for mini kits that have half the amount of elements easy.
I also bought the alphas - 3 alphas plus a few accessories for $4 is too much? I will buy an alpha around $3-$3.50, so I thought 3 for $4 was great. I am an alpha freak though, so I had to have these. I also got the papers for $4 which included 26 papers, thought it was a deal for me.
I usually don't buy huge collections like that but her holiday stuff is so versatile (as in I think I will use this stuff for lots of other things too) that I had to do it, and I think it is worth every penny.
AND seriously... have you seen the prices on Weeds and Wildflowers chrismtas kit???
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the prices for what you get seems fine to me, but I am still waiting to buy it during the Black Friday sales next weekend
AND seriously... have you seen the prices on Weeds and Wildflowers chrismtas kit???
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The prices at W&W don't seem any higher than many other stores out there, especially for what you get.
I also like that they break up their big kits into separate packs. That way, I can pick and choose what I think I'll really use.
Maybe she meant that the prices were good, why assume she meant the price was ridiculous?
Some very good designers have come from ES, Joedee may not have been the best store owner, but she sure knew talent when she saw it.
Maybe she meant that the prices were good, why assume she meant the price was ridiculous?
Some very good designers have come from ES, Joedee may not have been the best store owner, but she sure knew talent when she saw it.
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I think there's a few good designers at ES, but there's also a few that really shouldn't even bother selling. I certainly don't think putting together kits entirely of recolored CU items makes you a good designer, and there are a few at ES that it seems that's all they know how to do.
On another note -I'm really happy to see new ownership there. I don't know Jodee personally, nor do I know the new owner, but I had had pretty poor CS from ES the two times that I contacted them directly.
"The packs I bought for around $3.50 each are at least 30-40 ORIGINAL elements, and way more than that with different versions"
I just looked at that collab - and I beg to differ with your "30-40 Original" call. There are not 30-40 original, individual items in each mini kit. There is a ton of recolouring/pattern changes. So, while its cute, its not the bomb either. The value doesn't appear to much more than the average mini.
Good grief, what's with all the nitpicking?? Why is it that so many scrappers think everyone else's taste has to match their own?
Is the herd mentality seriously so extreme that people can't have a diversity of tastes? Does it make you any better of a scrapper if you think W&W is overpriced? Or if you don't?
I can't believe some of you have the time to sit around COUNTING how many elements you consider to be original or not, and then posting to each other nit-picking about whose count is more accurate.
This blog and really, this whole digital community have turned into a complete waste of time. And before anyone comes back with the oh-so-witty and original question of what I'm doing here, I can assure you, this is my last attempt at spending any time anywhere in the digital community. I give up.
Thanks for the hand slap. Buh, bye.
I only see one person nitpicking, and that's you! Why can't people have a discussion without someone immediately thinking it's nitpicking, or bashing, or whatever. I mean, who are you Thumper? Did you mother tell you, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all? That's just crap.
No one said everyone had to be the same. You think everyone should be the same, it's obvious from your post.
If someone says there's 30 to 40 original elements and that's blatantly not true, why shouldn't someone be allowed to say so? It's not nitpicking. It's a statement of fact.
I just looked at that collab - and I beg to differ with your "30-40 Original" call. There are not 30-40 original, individual items in each mini kit. There is a ton of recolouring/pattern changes. So, while its cute, its not the bomb either. The value doesn't appear to much more than the average mini.
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Do you own this kit? I do and when I say the elements were original that is what I meant lol... cracks me up. Anyways, it was well worth the $$ for me - even if it is what you say just pattern changes or whatever. I bought the element pack and the tree pack among other things and there ARE more than 40 unique elements. She does not count recolors or pattern changes (as you say) in that total. With those, there is much more. If your idea of value for the $ is something else, great. Thank goodness there are lots of options out there in the digi world. Spending that much $ is not a problem for me, if it is for you there are lots of freebies out there.
I happen to own every thing W&W (well, Gina) puts out because I love her style and I don't mind paying for the good stuff.
Besides, it must be working for her as she keeps her collections and prices the same every time, and imo they just keep getting better.
I also like that they break up their big kits into separate packs. That way, I can pick and choose what I think I'll really use.
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I totally agree -- I don't buy huge collections or kits, but I did buy a couple in this WW collection because of the fact she broke it up - I love that. And for me, $3.20 - $3.60 is not too much for an element pack of 20-30 elements(although there is quite a bit more than that in the packs I got), pretty average I would say.
You think an element pack with 20-30+ elements should be less than $3-3.50?
The value doesn't appear to much more than the average mini.
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And you buy the average mini kit for under $3.50? Where do you shop? I am sincerely curious... I haven't seen much under that price rang for anything
I can't believe some of you have the time to sit around COUNTING how many elements you consider to be original or not, and then posting to each other nit-picking about whose count is more accurate.
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This totally struck me funny as well - Oh, if only I had more time to sit around and count and compare elements!
There are not 30-40 original, individual items in each mini kit. There is a ton of recolouring/pattern changes.
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I am so tired of this argument. I am a designer and I just don't get the "recoloring" complaint. I know a lot of people can recolor their own stuff, but a lot of people can't. And - to be done right, recoloring takes a TON of time, especially in an element that has several colors. To get it right, I have to extract different layers and that takes as much time for me as doing another totally different element. And to do a different pattern or design on the same shape takes time too.
I don't know about th W&W kit, but as a designer, I will label and price my kits according to how hard I worked on them, and how much time it took me. I am sure there are a lot of differing opinions on what is labeled "unique" but there is no way we will make everyone happy.
If someone says there's 30 to 40 original elements and that's blatantly not true, why shouldn't someone be allowed to say so?
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wow, sounds like someone has a chip on their shoulder about something? Did you buy a kit and were disappointed in how much was in it? I suggest you contact that designer and let em know, I am sure they would be more than happy to give you a GC or reimburse you.
I saw the W&W kit and it looks great in the previews - BUT - let's face it I'll never use that many trees (1-3 max) I would have preferred a kit made up of some of each of the elements rather than buying all the different packages, most of which I will never use, not because I don't like it, there's just too much of it.
I saw the W&W kit and it looks great in the previews - BUT - let's face it I'll never use that many trees (1-3 max) I would have preferred a kit made up of some of each of the elements rather than buying all the different packages, most of which I will never use, not because I don't like it, there's just too much of it.
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There is a lot of it - and it is really cute. But I am not sure I would need that much stuff either as I only scrap 1-2 pages of one event. Although I can see someone using that holiday kit for a whole Christmas album or something like that.
Blog owner, thanks for the new topic.
I've never orederd from MPT but I was considering it, so I'm very interested in what people have to say.
11:26am, you said the CS is bad, how? She doesn't reply to her emails or she doesn't fix issues or what?
I guess I won't be able to get my LOs in time for Xmas if the shipping time is horrible. :(
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Is anyone else planning on using them for their Christmas gifts - I am debating, but very worried they won't come in time. If you aren't using MPT - where are you using instead?
wow, sounds like someone has a chip on their shoulder about something? Did you buy a kit and were disappointed in how much was in it? I suggest you contact that designer and let em know, I am sure they would be more than happy to give you a GC or reimburse you.
November 23, 2008 4:43 AM
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I didn't buy the kit and I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I dislike assumptions. People should be allowed to express their disappointment without getting hand slapped. Besides, what's the point of getting a GC for a designer with whom I'm disappointed with?
I bought the element pack and the tree pack among other things and there ARE more than 40 unique elements.
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Yes, in the TWO packs together, not in just one pack, as you implied before. Even in the product descriptions of the W&W packs they claim there's only around 26 or less unique elements, with recolors. Not that I care, as I wouldn't have a use for that many Xmas trees or snowflakes.
am so tired of this argument. I am a designer and I just don't get the "recoloring" complaint. I know a lot of people can recolor their own stuff, but a lot of people can't. And - to be done right, recoloring takes a TON of time, especially in an element that has several colors. To get it right, I have to extract different layers and that takes as much time for me as doing another totally different element. And to do a different pattern or design on the same shape takes time too.
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Nice to know that some designers take the time to do this because most of them don't. Most of the recolors I get are horrible and I could do a better job.
Besides, it wasn't a complaint - it was a response to the comment that there were a certain number of ORIGINAL elements. Original in my book doesn't mean 20 trees.
So put your hand smackies away for God's sake. No one was attacking the store or the designer - just commenting on another person's view of the kit.
Besides, it wasn't a complaint - it was a response to the comment that there were a certain number of ORIGINAL elements. Original in my book doesn't mean 20 trees.
So put your hand smackies away for God's sake. No one was attacking the store or the designer - just commenting on another person's view of the kit.
November 23, 2008 10:38 PM
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ITA!
I used MPT for calendars. I ordered them on a Tuesday afternoon and got them back on Friday in the mail. Not a problem at all in the printing. In fact I'm a very satisfied first time customer, and won't hesitate to sue them for my printing needs in the future.
won't hesitate to sue them for my printing needs in the future.
November 24, 2008 9:18 AM
I realize it was just a typo but with all the problems I had with MPT I got a chuckle out of it:)
ROFL- good catch. That is funny. Me and my typos.
Kudos to the stores and designers who started their Black Friday Sales early! They definitely got my scrapping allotment of the holiday budget!
Now I can do my digi shopping this evening, and hit the brick & mortar stores tomorrow like I had planned.
Dear CK Media employees, readers, and loyal contributors,
I am saddened to share the news that, due to difficult conditions in both the economy and the publishing market, CK Media has made the decision to cease publication of the print version of Digital Scrapbooking magazine after the February/March issue (on sale Jan 6, 2009).
Although we are discontinuing the magazine, we still believe in, and are committed to, digital scrapbooking as a growing segment of the market. We are evaluating more cost-effective ways to deliver relevant content to our tech-savvy audience, via web site and newsletter as well as possible digital delivery options.
The decision to discontinue the print version of our magazine resulted in a reduction of the editorial staff to two people. Jennafer Martin continues in her role as Editor in Chief for the brand, and Renee Pearson remains as Associate Editor.
Current subscriptions will be honored, and will be filled with CK Media product. More information about subscriptions will be available by the end of December, 2008. Information about subscriptions and other topics will be posted on the web site as information becomes available. After December, if you have questions about your subscription, customer service information will be available at the number listed in the magazine.
As information becomes available, we will provide updates on our web site: www.digitalscrapbooking.com.
Look for the Dec/Jan issue on sale November 11, and the Feb/Mar issue on sale January 6. And thank you all for your loyalty and support. We have enjoyed our association with our loyal community, and we look forward to exploring new ways to share digital scrapbooking ideas with you in the future.
Sincerely,
Lin Sorenson
VP/Editorial Director
CK Media
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Thoughts?
I subscribed when it first came out, but didn't renew. I could get the same inspiration by looking in the online galleries.
I always wondered why most of the layouts featured are always with products from Designer Digitals?
Yeah, with things start off bad they rarely recover.
For a magazine backed by such a big company, you would think they would have had an rock solid subscription service in place.
They never publicly dealt with all the customer service issues in the beginning and I believe that is where they lost a lot of faith.
I read that they have been accepting renewals even though they are shutting shop. Really bad form.
I've never understood why any digi scrapper would bother with companies and places like CK, 2Peas, etc when they focus on and cater so heavily to the paper market.
Micheline Martin is now at Designer Digitals.
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November 29, 2008 3:48 PM
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I bought one issue and thought it a total waste of money. Nothing new, nothing innovative, nothing original. I'm not surprised that it probably wasn't successful. As someone pointed out, you can get that kind of inspiration from the on line galleries.
Micheline Martin is now at Designer Digitals.
November 29, 2008 11:12 PM
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Just one more reason not to shop there.
Micheline Martin is now at Designer Digitals.
November 29, 2008 11:12 PM
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No she isn't. I see a Michelle Martin though.
Interesting about Michelle Martin - I read that wrong too.
Micheline is at Oscraps and her own store.
Why did Micheline leave ScrapArtist?
Weren't most of the writers and contributers to Digital Scrapbooking Magazine from Designer Digitals? I actually like that site but I wish that more stores were represented (and other styles).
Yes - most of the design team and creative team were from Designer Digitals and that's why the magazine was flooded with Designer Digital products. Perhaps if they would have made an effort to better represent the whole community, then maybe they would have been more successful.
I'm pissed that I just renewed a month before this announcement was made.
what do you all think of these designers offering up their entire stores, virtually begging people to buy them in order to help to save their homes and such?
what do you all think of these designers offering up their entire stores, virtually begging people to buy them in order to help to save their homes and such?
December 6, 2008 4:59 PM
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I just read a thread about a ''buy my whole store for $2''. I felt pretty bad for the girl. I mean, I understand that she wants to give a xmas gift to her customers but it looks so desperate. I value my work way more than that. IMO, I think it hurts her business more than it helps because people will think her designs are crappy if they are worth close to nothing.
Amanda Dykan is no longer with "her baby" GDWI.
Thoughts?
Inside gossip? :)
Amanda Dykan is no longer with "her baby" GDWI.
Thoughts?
Inside gossip? :)
December 6, 2008 11:12 PM
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Gossip? She has fake boobs!
not a surprise. she doesn't seem stick with anything thatlong. plus she burned her rep with that whole nervous breakdown/kill the bad blog schicht.
funny though how people just walk away and never both to tell their customers or announce it to the community.
Yeah, I saw a post for a designer call for that site. It was only for a couple of days. What about her all but silent partner?
what do you all think of these designers offering up their entire stores, virtually begging people to buy them in order to help to save their homes and such?
December 6, 2008 4:59 PM
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I haven't seen any designers offering their store to save their homes and such, but I have seen designers selling their store for an all round price. Can you link me to any designers who mentioned they need to save their homes and such?
royanna - selling her entire store because the house they were renting was foreclosed
Princess Lala Designs - saw an ad from her come through email - selling her entire store to raise money for her children's christmas presents
Amanda Dykan is no longer with "her baby" GDWI.
Thoughts?
Inside gossip? :)
December 6, 2008 11:12 PM
She's done quite a few collabs with Melissa Bennett over at SSD lately. Maybe they're stupid enough to take her on?
No clue if SSD is stupid enough to take her on, but it looks like Sunshine Studio is.
Amanda was briefly with Digital Candy, too, but seems that shop is closing at the end of the year too.
Amanda is such an ass kissing pain in the ass. That's why all the collabs with MB - she is too nice for her own good to tell Amanda to stuff it like she wants to. Robin is cracking down on the non SSD designer collabs because of Amanda's obsession with MB.
I still don't get why SUN took her on. Someone with a rep as bad as Amanda's is a desinger to avoid shop wise IMO. Heard a designer or two at SUN was ready to leave because they took her on and the various others during the whole agent crap that didn't go through it but were still let in the door. Both moves are bad for business in a lot of people's eyes.
Amanda is such an ass kissing pain in the ass. That's why all the collabs with MB - she is too nice for her own good to tell Amanda to stuff it like she wants to. Robin is cracking down on the non SSD designer collabs because of Amanda's obsession with MB.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So why couldn't MB just beg off b/c she's too busy or something?
To be totally honest, I had always liked MB's designs, but I didn't like the collabs with Amanda, and the fact that she seems so buddy buddy with Amanda sure makes me hesitant to buy more from her (MB).
Anything associated with Amanda Dykan just leaves a bad taste after all that ridiculous 'a scrapper shot through my front door' drama.
royanna - selling her entire store because the house they were renting was foreclosed
Princess Lala Designs - saw an ad from her come through email - selling her entire store to raise money for her children's christmas presents
December 7, 2008 2:31 AM
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Thanks.
Why didn't Princess Lala put money away for the Christmas presents through the year?
I feel sorry for Royanna, it isn't her fault that her landlord was stupid.
isn't dykan now at iscrapbook.com?
and whatever happened to the whole someone shot at her door myth?
isn't dykan now at iscrapbook.com?
and whatever happened to the whole someone shot at her door myth?
December 8, 2008 7:43 AM
I just took a look, and it looks like she is. That's enough reason for me to steer clear.
Anything associated with Amanda Dykan just leaves a bad taste after all that ridiculous 'a scrapper shot through my front door' drama.
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Amen to that!
Anyone else notice that she's recycling other peoples tutorials and using them as her own in her Bud Club? Wow. Just wow.
Anyone else notice that she's recycling other peoples tutorials and using them as her own in her Bud Club? Wow. Just wow.
December 8, 2008 3:45 PM
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I was never a part of the Bud Club. Which tutorials have been recycled?
Anyone else notice that she's recycling other peoples tutorials and using them as her own in her Bud Club? Wow. Just wow.
December 8, 2008 3:45 PM
Really? I wonder if the other designers have called her on it? If she's using their tutorials in a paid members area, I would hope that they call her out!
I don't see how she gets accepted at any store given her reputation as an unreliable store owner, all her kooky accusations, and so much store-hopping.
the reason people keep hiring her is that they don't know the truth. but people like her seem to crawl back from their dung heaps no matter what. and someone is always there to welcome them in from the cold.
i once saw a reference to her on google as "amanda dykan, an industry expert in digital scrapbooking" wtf is up with that. expert in what? how to change one's mind every 30 days?
Out her. Find the owners of the tuts and send them the proof.
What is up with DSC? She sends out numerous emails wanting designers and stores to advertise on her site - she gives us all maybe a week to respond and then is now shutting down that feature and refunding money.
I find her whole enterprise complicated and confusing. She sends out emails offering space in her newsletter less than 24 hours before it posted - sometimes I wouldn't even see the email for that long.
I wish people would learn how to map out their business plans and stop acting in such reactive modes.
She had a nice idea - but didn't seem to have a clue how to run it.
I just took a look, and it looks like she is. That's enough reason for me to steer clear.
December 8, 2008 3:32 PM
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I just checked and Beth Nixon is now on iscrapbook...
I think I'll tiptoe around Dykan if the page ever really gets of the ground.
so no news about the "hate crime" and online people that shot at her door crap?
so no news about the "hate crime" and online people that shot at her door crap?
December 9, 2008 4:55 PM
Not as far as I know. She's been predictably silent.
But really, after she made herself look like such an ass, what could she say?
Not as far as I know. She's been predictably silent.
But really, after she made herself look like such an ass, what could she say?
December 9, 2008 8:16 PM
That she's a SUNSHINEY Ass now
I just checked and Beth Nixon is now on iscrapbook...
I think I'll tiptoe around Dykan if the page ever really gets of the ground.
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Who is Beth Nixon?
Can we not give this woman any more air time? For gods sake, she is just a sad drama queen and I for one just don't wish to feed her ego or 15 minutes of fame any more.
Who is Beth Nixon?
December 9, 2008 9:38 PM
she used to be a designer at DSP (like Irene Alexeeva who's now at Scrap Orchard) has been giving out freebies since and I always liked her designs.
Personal preference
Elemental Scraps is having a huge team call - ct, designers, the hole 9 yards.
what happened over there?
Elemental Scraps is having a huge team call - ct, designers, the hole 9 yards.
what happened over there?
December 11, 2008 11:35 PM
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They're not having a designer call, they had one for 48 hours and only took on 3 more designers because some left after Jo did.
And as for the rest of the calls, new owner, new team.
Speaking of ES, fun fact Shantilly Faire is none other then Ashley Olson. Wonder if Joedee told the new owner about what she had in shop?
WHAT?! Shantilly is Ashley? Proof? How do you know?
who is Ashley Olsen?
Ashley Olson used to own a store, then she closed the store and didn't pay the designers their final payout and was avoiding everyone's calls, emails, etc for a long time
Nothing surprises me when it comes to Ashley or Joedee for that sake......
Anyone got the mail from DAM and Nancy Comelab today? She is leaving as a editor/owner. Now there must be some gossip behind that other than
"I am sure we have all come to a point in life where we have to make a choice, and I believe this is that time for me"
Did she leave volentarly, or did they make her leave?
Speaking of ES, fun fact Shantilly Faire is none other then Ashley Olson. Wonder if Joedee told the new owner about what she had in shop?
December 12, 2008 1:22 AM
^^^
Seriously? If this is true, please tell us how you know or provide proof.
who is Ashley Olsen?
December 12, 2008 9:56 AM
Ashley Olsen is a thief and a damn liar.
re: Ashley Olson
according to Ashley's facebook, she was without computer, same time chantilly wasn't producing new product and same thing when Ashley had her new baby. Plus Joedee admits it herself and knew who she was when she brought her on. Notice Ashley is active at DST again? Same time as Chantilly came about.
Speaking of ES, fun fact Shantilly Faire is none other then Ashley Olson. Wonder if Joedee told the new owner about what she had in shop?
December 12, 2008 1:22 AM
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Whaaaaat???????? OMFG!!!!!!!
there is also some juicy gossip about another store owner. she was once an owner who skipped out on all her designers and a bunch of drama. she now owns another store under another name.
there is also some juicy gossip about another store owner. she was once an owner who skipped out on all her designers and a bunch of drama. she now owns another store under another name.
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Who is it/what store was it/who is she now/what store is it now? LOL
Plus Joedee admits it herself and knew who she was when she brought her on. Notice Ashley is active at DST again? Same time as Chantilly came about.
December 12, 2008 11:30 PM
Where/when did Joedee admit this???? OMG, what a couple of sneaky, lying beyotches. Remember the outcry when Ashley's name showed up at ES just after TDS stunt?
I just KNEW that Ashley was going to try to start selling again at some point, but I thought she was just going to wait a while and have the guts to try it under her own name. Once again, she proves what a slime she really is.
Why did Micheline leave SSD and then SA?
Why did Micheline leave SSD and then SA?
December 13, 2008 12:34 PM
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To get your attention... and it worked, did it? lol!
there is also some juicy gossip about another store owner. she was once an owner who skipped out on all her designers and a bunch of drama. she now owns another store under another name.
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And you, don't drop this and run!!
You have to tell us now!
To get your attention... and it worked, did it? lol!
December 13, 2008 1:04 PM
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typo: didn't it?
where is micheline now? is she still selling anywhere?
where is micheline now? is she still selling anywhere?
December 13, 2008 1:59 PM
She'll turn up somewhere. The habitual store hoppers always resurface after they've gotten their latest bit of attention.
where is micheline now? is she still selling anywhere?
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her own shop and Oscraps
I want to know more about the Ashley Olsen aka Shantilly Faire thing. Did all the designers at ES know about this or was it just Joedee who helped her pull this stunt? And does the current owner know?
Does TILLIE have a CT?
No the designers at ES didn't know. And I'm pretty sure the new owner didn't either.
And I'd like proof.. other wise it's just a he said she said type of thing
there is also some juicy gossip about another store owner. she was once an owner who skipped out on all her designers and a bunch of drama. she now owns another store under another name.
WHO and WHAT STORES?? Amanda? lol
Did Melissa Herzog ever show back up?
No the designers at ES didn't know. And I'm pretty sure the new owner didn't either.
December 13, 2008 6:03 PM
yikes. I'm so glad that I gave up on ES a long time ago. I honestly don't know how Joedee and Ashley sleep at night.
Anyone that didn't like ES.. you should give it another try. People like Joedee are gone and Angie is a wonderful owner.
Anyone that didn't like ES.. you should give it another try. People like Joedee are gone and Angie is a wonderful owner.
December 13, 2008 8:58 PM
I'd be more inclined to believe that if a self-admitted liar and cheat wasn't selling there under a new identity!
Thanks, but no thanks.
here we go with amnda dykan again. can we not stop giving this girl air time. i am not her. i am just someone who noticed a new store pop up and being the curious person i am i investigated and found out that it was someone who skipped out on her designers last year and thought somebody would find it interesting.
how about you go sit on a sharp object and spin yourself counter clock wise on it.
9:06, wtf? and who are you talking to?
Amanda Dykan's name (thankfully) hasn't been brought up in a day or so and you had to go and ruin that.
I'd be more inclined to believe that if a self-admitted liar and cheat wasn't selling there under a new identity!
Thanks, but no thanks.
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How is that the new owner's fault if Joedee knew and didn't tell her?
How is that the new owner's fault if Joedee knew and didn't tell her?
December 13, 2008 9:32 PM
It's not the new owner's fault if she didn't know, but Ashley's still there, so that IS the new owner's fault.
And how do you know the new owner doesn't know now and isn't working on it? She can't just kick Shantilly out without proof. Don't be so quick to judge. You never know what the new owner is doing when someone just said that Shantilly is Ashley yesterday. And if the new owner doesn't even know and hasn't heard about it and Joedee didn't tell her then how can you blame her for Shantilly/Ashley not being gone?
And where's the proof? You can't expect someone to be kicked out just because of something said on a smack blog.
And where's the proof? You can't expect someone to be kicked out just because of something said on a smack blog.
December 13, 2008 10:15 PM
So, how do store owners pay their designers? At some point, if Shantilly/Ashley is being paid by the store owner, can't she tell who she's paypal-ing the money to?
I'm not sure how easy it is to set up a paypal account with false names, etc. since I've never tried to do it, but I think I remember paypal verifying my address and bank account when I set mine up.
And how do you know the new owner doesn't know now and isn't working on it?
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Well, let's hope she is. ES already has a bad reputation with many thanks to Joedee. Having TILLIE aka ASHLEY aka ASHTINA on board certainly isn't going to help that store's reputation!
So, how do store owners pay their designers? At some point, if Shantilly/Ashley is being paid by the store owner, can't she tell who she's paypal-ing the money to?
I'm not sure how easy it is to set up a paypal account with false names, etc. since I've never tried to do it, but I think I remember paypal verifying my address and bank account when I set mine up.
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You do verify it by your bank account but all you need is your check number, routing number, etc then it puts a certain amount of change in your account then you enter those numbers in paypal to prove it's you. No matter if the names are different or not you can do it. And Angie would have no way of seeing her bank account or name to that bank account
And Angie would have no way of seeing her bank account or name to that bank account
December 13, 2008 11:01 PM
ok, that's what I wasn't sure about. I couldn't remember if the bank check that was done had my real name connected with the account when paypal did the verification.
it's pretty crappy that people like Ashley can have such an easy time being dishonest. then again, with people like that, they'll always find a way to keep being cheats.
I do believe that what goes around comes around, though. Sure seems like Ashley's in for a heap of crap at some point.
I don't see her name in the store list now.
I'm a bit confused by this whole thing. I tried to read the Ashley thread on DST but I just couldn't get through it.
She closed the store and didn't pay anyone - but then eventually she did pay?
Is there more to it than that? If she paid all her debts, what's the harm in her being a designer?
On a side note, does anyone else find txmusicmom to be really annoying? I hate how she types all her posts. Everything she says........is always punctuated by......like.......huge long gaps......like this. Good lord woman......learn some proper punctuation.......it makes you look incredibly stupid........and there are lots of people sniggering about you because of it.........maybe go back to school to re-learn the basics?................
Lol, yeah, I've noticed her bizarre writing style before. Kind of irritating reading her long, disjointed ramblings.
........and there are lots of people sniggering about you because of it.........
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Really? Are they sniggering because of her writing style or what's in her posts.......her content, I mean?
I don't see her name in the store list now.
December 14, 2008 7:07 AM
Just checked, and it's not showing up for me either. Props to the new store owner for taking such quick action. It seems I was too harsh above when I thought she wasn't or hadn't done anything about Ashley being there.
"Really? Are they sniggering because of her writing style or what's in her posts.......her content, I mean?"
December 14, 2008 10:00 AM
Both. People have been gossiping and laughing at the way she writes, but the way she comes across as a person in posts has also been the subject of some discussion.
Sniggering? Really? Up until now I don't think I have ever sniggered but I am sniggering at you for being such a lame ass. Seriously...your going to gossip and talk about her because of how she types? My mother...who is a highly intelligent woman...does not type emails well. They are very disjointed and rarely punctuated correctly. It is simply not the era she grew up in.
If this woman catches wind of your nasty little comment the odds are she will probably think twice about participating in a community she obviously enjoys for fear of being belittled.
Ya'll are really a piece of work. You have no idea what that forum does or does not mean to her. For all you know it could be her only outlet.
I am all for a well deserved smack on a smack blog but sometimes you women are so ridiculous it just boggles my mind.
So how did people find out about Ashley/Shantilly?
I must have missed the entire thing.
People come to a smack blog to say what they think about things and read what others are really thinking. Why are you so surprised to hear negative comments about a member of DST? It's her right to say it annoys her if she feels that way. Personally I find it even more laughable when someone comes here full of righteous indignation and reproaches everyone for being ridiculous. Whast did you expect from a smack blog??
So how did people find out about Ashley/Shantilly?
I must have missed the entire thing.
December 14, 2008 1:26 PM
I'm just glad that people did find out. It was very underhanded of Joedee and Ashley to pull this and it was really wrong of Joedee to leave Ashley there and not tell the new owner. I hope the owner got the store for a good price, cuz Joedee sure did give the place a bad name.
I am all for a well deserved smack on a smack blog but sometimes you women are so ridiculous it just boggles my mind.
December 14, 2008 12:14 PM
Well you look pretty ridiculous yourself for trying to deliver handslaps in a place where people are free to express their true opinions. If you want the sunshine brigade, scoot back on over to DST
If this woman catches wind of your nasty little comment the odds are she will probably think twice about participating in a community she obviously enjoys for fear of being belittled.
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Do you really think so? Because if it will make that ........... crazy woman ......... stop posting nonsense ......... I'll happily ............. make fun of her ........... so maybe she'll find .......... somewhere else to ............ post.
I knew there had to be some kind of smack/gossip going on for this blog to generate 50 odd posts in a couple of days.
I have to agree with this poster about Ashely:
If she paid all her debts, what's the harm in her being a designer?
December 14, 2008 7:29 AM
If she did the right thing in the end, why keep smacking her? I'm sure you'd all want a second chance if you needed one.
If she did the right thing in the end, why keep smacking her? I'm sure you'd all want a second chance if you needed one.
December 14, 2008 4:25 PM
She didn't CHOOSE to do the right thing in the end-someone obtained her true address, telephone number, and employer info. She only resurfaced AFTER threats of filing theft charges and contacting her employer. There was no verification that she ever paid everyone everything that she owed them either.
As for wanting a second chance, there are many of us who wouldn't ever shut down a business with no notice to customers, leave customers without the downloads they paid for, and not pay employees until there was a very real possibility of getting in trouble with the law. Also, she did all this when the domain was registered in someone else's name, which caused a lot of problems and headache for that person. Ashley had been GIVEN that business with the promise of not just letting the domain go. She shafted someone who had been a very good friend to her, too. She also let many of her friends take all the heat at DST when the whole mess happened. When she finally resurfaced and promised to pay the designers, she said she wouldn't be selling again-anywhere.
Now, it turns out she's been selling at ES under a false identity with Joedee's help ever since this all happened.
If you like doing business with liars and thieves, whoopee for you, but don't expect everyone else to be as foolish as you.
Second chance, my ass. She pretty much blew that with this whole Shantilly Faire crap. It's pretty damn plain that this zebra's not changed her stripes one bit.
Well, she deleted her blogs too. It was so obvious- same design style!
It was so obvious- same design style!
December 14, 2008 5:52 PM
Looking back now, the design style does seem very obvious.
How did anyone find out about this?
I need to know...Who broke the news that Ashley Olsen and ShantillyFaire were the same person.
Geeze...pretty pathetic.
it was keely
Ashley Olson is Shantilly Faire? Holy crap. Is there any end to her lies??????
The domain name had nothing to do with Ashley, she couldn't renew it as she was not the owner of the name. Janelle, reluctantly, accepted that the problem was hers.
As far as I know, all the designers who didn't not get paid and said so publicly also publicly said when they did get paid.
I'm not a supporter of Ashley, but I do believe in giving all the details, not just the ones that suit.
I'm not a supporter of Ashley, but I do believe in giving all the details, not just the ones that suit.
December 15, 2008 12:16 AM
The ones that suit? You sure sound like an Ashley supporter when you're trying to make excuses for her. Not sure what your thing with details that suit is, but that's not what I saw at all.
Just because a few designers said they were paid, doesn't mean they were all paid. And if you were there for the whole thing, then you know that after the first few days, scandals like this can't be brought up at DST without a friendly/smiley handslap from Shannon and the full force of the sunshines and roses brigade coming down. So, really, no one knows if Ashley did in fact pay everyone. I also remember at least one designer saying they were just going to cut their losses. If Ashley had had some integrity, she would have paid them anyway.
Whether or not Ashley could have renewed the domain name, she COULD have contacted Janelle and she didn't. She COULD have kept the store open and moved it to another domain name. She COULD have even just given her designers some notice that the domain was expiring and she was going to close down the store. But she didn't, did she?
And the fact remains that she never made contact until she realized that people had enough personal info on her to pursue her legally.
Seriously, I was over at elemental scraps earlier today to see if Shantilly/Ashley was off the designerlist. At the forum someone asked if it was true that Shantilly and Ashley was the same person. And now they have just deleted that thread. Talk about hiding inconvinient information.
The domain name had nothing to do with Ashley, she couldn't renew it as she was not the owner of the name. Janelle, reluctantly, accepted that the problem was hers.
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I don't agree that the domain name had nothing to with Ashley. She was using it and she was making money off it. Plus, She had every chance to contact Janelle and get the changeover done.
The technicalities of the domain name sure don't excuse Ashely's dishonesty-then or now with this whole Shantilly Faire scheme. Remember Ashley's statements that she was leaving DST and that she would not be designing or selling again?
She was a liar then and she has proven herself to be a liar now.
Seriously, I was over at elemental scraps earlier today to see if Shantilly/Ashley was off the designerlist. At the forum someone asked if it was true that Shantilly and Ashley was the same person. And now they have just deleted that thread. Talk about hiding inconvinient information.
December 15, 2008 7:16 AM
Urg, I really wish they wouldn't do that. It makes it look like they have something to hide.
If they knew nothing about it, why not let people ask questions and answer the ones they can?
Joedee's attempted coverup of the hack at ES was what made quit shopping there. Since customers' personal info was at risk, customers had a right to know ASAP when the store was hacked. I won't shop in places that withhold important information from customers.
I sure hate to see the new owner of ES trying to cover this up. It's crappy situation, but if she didn't do anything wrong, why try to hide the facts or even discussion about it?
Seriously, I was over at elemental scraps earlier today to see if Shantilly/Ashley was off the designerlist. At the forum someone asked if it was true that Shantilly and Ashley was the same person. And now they have just deleted that thread. Talk about hiding inconvinient information.
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Now, I'm not affiliated with ES in any way but I think if I were in the position, I would have deleted the thread too. All it would cause is drama and gossip. How do you know the new owner asked Shantilly/Ashley to leave? What if Shantilly/Ashley left willingly? What if the new owner doesn't even know for sure if Shantilly was Ashley? I wouldn't want to be responsible for letting a thread like that keep going when it's all just speculation.
I think the new owner seems to be doing a hell of alot better than Joedee did and I don't think anyone is giving her credit for that. And if she did ask Shantilly/Ashley to leave, atleast she did something whereas Joedee just let Ashley sell their under a false name. Give the new owner some credit where credit is do.
http://www.elementalscraps.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17454&highlight=shantilly
Give the new owner some credit where credit is do.
December 15, 2008 8:42 AM
My post was an opinion, and as you have pointed out, I don't know if the owner asked Ashley to leave, so what kind of credit am I supposed to give her? Your OPINION is that she's doing a better job than Joedee. Since it doesn't take much to do better than Joedee, I'm really not sure what's DUE to Angie?
Maybe the benefit of the doubt.
My post was an opinion, and as you have pointed out, I don't know if the owner asked Ashley to leave, so what kind of credit am I supposed to give her? Your OPINION is that she's doing a better job than Joedee. Since it doesn't take much to do better than Joedee, I'm really not sure what's DUE to Angie?
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Considering someone just posted a link to a thread where Angie said she asked Shantilly/Ashley to leave, I'd say you owe some credit ;]
I give her credit for adressing the issue rather than sweeping it under the rug. I am in no way affiliated with ES nor do I know the owner, just my observation.
Completely unrelated - but if anyone knows of someone being evicted because their landlord is being foreclosed on, please pass on this link: http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/15/news/economy/fannie_housing/index.htm
The government is instituting measures to protect renters from being forced out of their residences due to landlord foreclosures
I have read that some people in our community are being affected by this, so please pass the info on should you know of anyone in need
I give the new owner credit for asking Ashley to leave. And that's all the credit she's due ;]
I went over to ES and read the statement by the new owner. I am impressed at how she handle the situation. That was quick to get a shady person out of their store. I can see why the owner would delete the other thread also. When Jodie owned it there was always drama with her (Charity Scams, Paypal hacks, and who knows waht)and the new owner probably wants to eliminate any bad press created by a crappy previous owner.
But she didn't, did she?
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I don't know and neither do you, do you? You aren't her and you aren't any of the parties involved. It's all guess work, isn't it?
Remember Ashley's statements that she was leaving DST and that she would not be designing or selling again?
She was a liar then and she has proven herself to be a liar now.
December 15, 2008 7:28 AM
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She said that in the heat of the moment, haven't you ever done that or you Miss Perfect? It doesn't make her a liar, other things she may have said might make her a liar, I don't know as I wasn't directly involved and I wasn't actually there. But saying she won't be designing again and then coming back, doesn't make her a liar.
"She said that in the heat of the moment, haven't you ever done that or you Miss Perfect? It doesn't make her a liar, other things she may have said might make her a liar, I don't know as I wasn't directly involved and I wasn't actually there. But saying she won't be designing again and then coming back, doesn't make her a liar."
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No you are right that doesn't make her a liar, but coming back into the industry under and assumed name and hiding it from everyone, begs for attention.
I wish I knew who the designers were she stole from. Wouldn't that be ironic for them to still be selling with her.
But saying she won't be designing again and then coming back, doesn't make her a liar.
December 15, 2008 4:22 PM
But selling under a fake identity DOES make her a liar.
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