Sorry, I was out of town and knew when I checked the blog today and saw that many comments something must be going down. I must admit I haven't read it all, but I skipped to the last page to read the ending. I kind of feel sorry for her, as she seems to play the victim card and blame others for the situations she creates or fabricates. I still have many questions...like who is the hat girl in the hotel? How is MB involved in this? Who leaked the first screen shot of the DST post?
Carry on...
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looks like someone is posting back to back to make it look like there is a convo going on...how pathetic!
^^^ You're really lame. Typical response.
Or maybe there's actually three people posting?
^^^ You're really lame. Typical response.
Or maybe there's actually three people posting?
May 16, 2009 4:06 PM
No definitely think you are the lame one that all you have time to do is sit on this blog and post dumb shit. I come on here to get my laugh for the day. You all say the same things...so unoriginal. It is hysterical.
Or perhaps the previous 1005 comments were all from the same person (well, except for those that aren't anonymous). Point is, that's the problem with anonymous blogs like this. You never know who has what agenda or what might be in their best interests, so don't take anything said here with anything other than a grain of salt.
No definitely think you are the lame one that all you have time to do is sit on this blog and post dumb shit. I come on here to get my laugh for the day. You all say the same things...so unoriginal. It is hysterical.
May 16, 2009 4:13 PM
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Yep, that's been said before too. You are here for the same reason as the rest of us. To smack it up. The problem is that you can take in the same shit that shovel out because you're lame.
Oh, I definitely don't and I feel sorry for the ones that do because that is just sad and shows how pathetic they really are. You are right you just never know what anyone's agenda is and that is why you just let it roll off your back and for those that get all flustered and out of sorts...well, they need to take lessons on how not to get so involved that their world revolves around a stupid blog.
so true 4:14!
Yep, that's been said before too. You are here for the same reason as the rest of us. To smack it up. The problem is that you can take in the same shit that shovel out because you're lame.
May 16, 2009 4:16 PM
Ponders where this person learned to speak and write because this is so stupid to read and makes no sense whatsoever. Who is lame now? I would have to say you. :) Have a blessed day.
The problem is that you can take in the same shit that shovel out because you're lame.
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So mad that you cannot even type correctly and you look stupid in the process. Tsk, tsk!
Wow, was reading back...definitely some pissy women in da house today. Take a chill pill this is just a blog!
you win
no you win, bitch
WTF???
http://paulaphillipsdesigns.com/blog/
Look at where the links point to!
May 16, 2009 9:48 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
^^^
very bizarre.
May 16, 2009 10:07 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yeah, OK, so Paula/Amanda/Lilyanne - wtf - how many Amanda's are there? This gets more complicated every moment. So sad.
May 16, 2009 10:21 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
wth does Paula Phillips have to do with the Amanda/Lilyanne thing??
May 16, 2009 10:28 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
wth does Paula Phillips have to do with the Amanda/Lilyanne thing??
May 16, 2009 10:28 AM
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No idea other than AD claimed to be BFF's with Paula and now her blog links to Lilyanne's stuff - too weird.
May 16, 2009 10:34 AM
Opinions?
Paula's been a designer for a long time and the majority of it over laps her time in stores with AD. I don't think they are the same person. That would mean that AD was cranking out kits like crazy!
My theory is that Amanda designed her website for her. It's very AD.
1. Paula is listed in the white pages. I'm not posting that information but it's really there.
2. http://paulaphillips.blogspot.com/2009/03/busy-weekend-painting.html
Read the 2nd to last para where she says that "Amanda" is setting up her blog. This was LONG before the fall-out.
3. She doesn't sound like AD. Read her blog!
Out for more blood?
Paula is not Amanda.
Paula needs to cut all ties with AD that's for sure.
http://www.target.com/Creative-Colors-Paper-Barbara-Buechley/dp/1574212907/sr=1-1/qid=1242512559/ref=sr_1_1/184-6102143-4097508?ie=UTF8&frombrowse=0&index=books&rh=k%3APaula%20Phillips&page=1
Probably Paula! She said she's done projects for the paper world. Could this be it?
If Paula isn't Amanda, she sure has pretty piss poor taste in friends. How could she be such great friends with someone that's obviously so crazy??
I would like to say that I AM Paula Phillips - NOT AMANDA - that I WAS one of Amanda's BFF's and she did set up my blog for me. She never finished it and I HAVE cut all ties to her. I have been lied to in all this and am very hurt that someone that I thought was one of my BFF's would do this. I was not aware of the links until someone brought it to my attention and I was mortified. I had thought that I took everything off my site already. I went and searched further and found the links that I did not know were there and took them out immediately. If you need any further proof that I am who I say I am - I am listed in the phone book in Fort Worth, Texas. I have been designing for around 3 years now. I was at Purple Paper Flowers, then Get Digi With It, then Color Line Design. Then I went to Faith Sisters, Enchanted Studio Scraps, and Digital Candy. I graduated from Broken Arrow High School in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma in 1990.
Yes - I did projects in the book referenced there. I have done craft/paper projects in several books for Design Originals. I also taught paper scrapping classes at the Scrapbook Pad in Colleyville, Texas while it was open.
And maybe I did have poor taste in friends, but I had NO IDEA any of these things were going on. All I can say is that it really SUCKS to be burned and made a fool of by someone.
Not trying to be an ass, Paula, but you may want to change the registration for your website. Right now, looks as though it's registered by Amanda so she'll likely get the renewal notices, etc. From whois:
Registrant:
Amanda Dykan
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: PAULAPHILLIPSDESIGNS.COM
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.SITEPOWERED.NET
NS2.SITEPOWERED.NET
For complete domain details go to:
http://who.godaddy.com/whoischeck.aspx?Domain=PAULAPHILLIPSDESIGNS.COM
Thanks a bunch!! I don't look at this as you being mean - I truly appreciate that info - these are all things that I know NOTHING about and wouldn't even think of. She set everything up for me and I seriously know nothing about web stuff but I am working right now with someone to try to re-do the look of my site with a new kit and all. I don't know if I can completely redesign the whole thing cuz I don't have the money for that right now. I'm doing everything I can tho to get any ties to her off of all my stuff!
Replying to a poster about these ladies in the SUTUCS contest. WTF is your deal with people using CU stuff? That is what it is for! Not everyone can extract ect or possibly cannot afford the tools to do their own? Give it up already on the bashing of people using CU items. Hell Sweet Shoppe is full of CU items in their kits.
can you guys not give the woman a friggen break?
She has been publicly ridiculed for a lack of judgment that we could have been guilty of.
And Paula--you have said enough. I would hold my head up and keep my mouth shut. Do not give anyone for fuel for their personal witch hunt.
Actually, I'm glad that Paula spoke up. Running and hiding would make her look guilty. The only ones that have been running and hiding in this mess are Amanda and those who helped her.
Replying to a poster about these ladies in the SUTUCS contest. WTF is your deal with people using CU stuff? That is what it is for! Not everyone can extract ect or possibly cannot afford the tools to do their own? Give it up already on the bashing of people using CU items. Hell Sweet Shoppe is full of CU items in their kits.
May 16, 2009 6:40 PM
ITA!!!
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Replying to a poster about these ladies in the SUTUCS contest. WTF is your deal with people using CU stuff? That is what it is for! Not everyone can extract ect or possibly cannot afford the tools to do their own? Give it up already on the bashing of people using CU items. Hell Sweet Shoppe is full of CU items in their kits.
May 16, 2009 6:40 PM
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Are you referring to the SCRAP contest or the DESIGN contest? The current one at DSA is for Designers - a competition to see who can Design the best, am I right?
In that case, absolutely should they NOT be using other people's CU stuff they THEY didn't design themselves IMHO. Any designer worth her salt would be designing her OWN stuff for a contest...
There is a huge difference between someone who knows her software, knows how to extract, knows how to design etc..... and someone who merely recolors and assembles things made by others.
I feel that it should have been stated that if they did NOT design everything in their kit themselves they should be disqualified. Then it will boil down to who has real TALENT and not who is the most popular.
Sounds to me like someone had sour grapes for lunch. I agree with the list that was released. The kits that were cut were either filled with obvious CU crap or lacked quality or both.
May 16, 2009 2:18 PM
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Oh please, tell me you are joking? Several of the kits that made it had a lot of CU crap and were just a lot of recolors and some of them had crap in them as well.
Anonymous said...
Sounds to me like someone had sour grapes for lunch. I agree with the list that was released. The kits that were cut were either filled with obvious CU crap or lacked quality or both.
May 16, 2009 2:18 PM
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Oh please, tell me you are joking? Several of the kits that made it had a lot of CU crap and were just a lot of recolors and some of them had crap in them as well.
May 16, 2009 8:14 PM
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Neither of you are helping much. Why don't you both be more *specific*?
Who are "the kits that were cut"?
Who are "several of the kits that made it"?
Who are "some of them"?
Vague generalizations like these make me think you are merely lumping designers together but didn't take a good hard look.
Names, people, names.
Yeah, perhaps Paula could enlighten us on how it is possible to be friends with someone as crazy as Amanda appears to be?
Way back last year when she went postal on the digi world and claimed we shot a gun at her house? Where were you then? Why did you stay friends with someone who obviously had emotional issues?
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You are absolutely evil. Paula is a victim here. So was duped and conned (along with a number of paper companies and wacom!) by Amanda. She's not an idiot. Amanda just was able to get away with a lot of crap!
You must not have very many friends. You want to trust them and believe that they are telling the truth. And then it turns out they're a problem. It happened to me once because I let down my guard. At one point I said never again. But I've since changed my mind. (I don't have online friends anymore though). But I'm sure you can relate. The person is your friend and you want to believe their side of the story. And why shouldn't you if you have a couple years of relationship?
What's really sad here is that you are really being a jerk to someone that already has a broken heart. I hope noone ever betrays you and makes you feel like a total idiot because you decided to trust them. On the other hand, I have a feeling that you don't trust many people and probably don't have many friends in your life. So you already don't have much to lose.
Paula, if you are still reading, please don't let these crazy people get you down.
There is a huge difference between someone who knows her software, knows how to extract, knows how to design etc..... and someone who merely recolors and assembles things made by others.
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ITA! And you will not see these people coming into my shop.
If you are a designer and you keep getting turned down for shops you like this should be the first thing you consider when you wonder why. I am sick of seeing the same flowers and ribbons and the same damn Miss Tina birds. Get yourself a scanner or a tablet and teach yourself something new and stand out from the crowd. Because recoloring does not make you a designer. Designing something does.
I'm loving all this talk about how much you hate these "So You Think" contests. It just reaffirms my belief that the community doesn't want them and soon it will be an obvious sign of desperation (like a 70% off sale) when you see a store having one. It might have been cool and classy a year and a half ago but now it's tiring and boring and predictable. We all know that Flergs is going to win.
Flergs, save some face now and withdraw from the race. You are actually going to alienate more fans than you know when you win. I'm one of them.
We all know that Flergs is going to win.
Flergs, save some face now and withdraw from the race. You are actually going to alienate more fans than you know when you win. I'm one of them.
May 16, 2009 9:11 PM
So let me get this straight. You are sick of this contest because an established designer has entered?
You do realize that they will win an advertising package at DSA? The 3 month guest spot isn't really worth competing for but that advertising package is. Especially after the got all these people to register at DSA!
So you are going to boycot Flergs for being good enough to possibly win free advertising? I could understand if it was because she was competing for a long term spot in the store, but really, because she's trying to get $500 in advertising free? I seriously doubt that it is for a designer spot at SO.
Well miss I think everything should be done by scanning or tablet. I will tell you that I do not have either and I make a really good living at making my kits. It is not what you use in your kits but how you use them. Believe me I can take a cu item and totally change it to where you cannot tell it was a cu item to begin with. So yes I do consider myself a designer and OMG I use CU stuff!
Wow, so much going on here I don't even know where to start...
To the shop owner who hates CU, I totally agree. As a consumer, I try to avoid kits that mostly (if not all) a bunch of recolored CU. It's okay to use it in a limited way, but it certainly shouldn't be the majority of a kit. Recoloring is not designing, IMHO.
To the person who thinks the community hates contests, because of a handful of posts on this board, puh-leze. Why exactly does this offend you so much? Are you too cool for good, quality freebies? I'm certainly not, I grabbed some great kits and for that alone I'm pretty happy. Seems like a win-win-win scenario to me. Designers get some publicity and possibly a following they didn't have previously, us scrappers get free stuff, and the host gets traffic. If it offends you so much to get free stuff (or some degree of publicity and a chance to win if you entered as a designer), then don't go get the free stuff nor enter the contest. Duh...
And finally, the whole 'this contest is rigged' thing- give me a break. You do realize that the final 10 for SYTYCD is voted on by the public, right? So, when it's time, get on there, vote, and quit your bitching...
You do realize that they will win an advertising package at DSA? The 3 month guest spot isn't really worth competing for but that advertising package is. Especially after the got all these people to register at DSA!
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Just because they registered, doesn't mean they will stay. They will grab the freebies, like me, and just run. Look at all the people that registered at various sites when they had the Amazing Digi Scrapping Race. Most of them did not stay for the long term.
And finally, the whole 'this contest is rigged' thing- give me a break. You do realize that the final 10 for SYTYCD is voted on by the public, right? So, when it's time, get on there, vote, and quit your bitching...
May 16, 2009 9:56 PM
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It's just too bad that by the final 10, no one I'm interested in will actually be there.
It is just me, or does the pale blue and pale grey writing on white over at SA drive you crazy? I find it hard to read, I'll admit I wear glasses and am getting on, but I still think they are bad color choices.
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Well miss I think everything should be done by scanning or tablet. I will tell you that I do not have either and I make a really good living at making my kits. It is not what you use in your kits but how you use them. Believe me I can take a cu item and totally change it to where you cannot tell it was a cu item to begin with.
So yes I do consider myself a designer and OMG I use CU stuff!
May 16, 2009 9:53 PM
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See, that makes yours different from all the other cookie-cutter kits out there. It takes some imagination to fancy up a plain CU ribbon/string/overlay/whatever so that it looks totally different from the original. I think that DOES make you a designer - you're using tools to make something new, not just recoloring an existing item.
I'm on the CT's for several designers and seen them use the same CU product. I really appreciate it if they turn it into something new and unique and not as easily recognizable.
Well miss I think everything should be done by scanning or tablet. I will tell you that I do not have either and I make a really good living at making my kits. It is not what you use in your kits but how you use them. Believe me I can take a cu item and totally change it to where you cannot tell it was a cu item to begin with. So yes I do consider myself a designer and OMG I use CU stuff!
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ok- post a link to your store and we'll all go look at these fabulous cu re-designs and let you know if we think you're a "good" designer.
It's sad that the contest at designsindigital.com is encouraging CU use.
It is just me, or does the pale blue and pale grey writing on white over at SA drive you crazy? I find it hard to read, I'll admit I wear glasses and am getting on, but I still think they are bad color choices.
May 16, 2009 10:19 PM
No, it's not just you. I love SA, but their new color scheme is not doing them any favors. I'm young with good eyes, and I can barely make it out. They debuted their new look on NSD, and it was immediately obvious that they made a mistake. I have no idea why they left it that way.
Just come to SSD and you will see my designs.
What does everyone think about some stores starting to let tagger sized kits into them? Does this effect if you would purchase from that store? I have never really gotten what the whole tagger thing is but I guess it is a really popular hobby. I was just curious what everyone else thought about it.
What does everyone think about some stores starting to let tagger sized kits into them? Does this effect if you would purchase from that store? I have never really gotten what the whole tagger thing is but I guess it is a really popular hobby. I was just curious what everyone else thought about it.
May 16, 2009 11:01 PM
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I think it's a great idea! It will give taggers a legit place to get their goods.
I'm on the CT's for several designers and seen them use the same CU product. I
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yeah, and it's even worse when the designers use the same CU product from a designer at the same store. I had to pee myself laughing the week that Aja and Rachel at SA came out with a kit each in the same week that had the same CU rose in it from Amanda and neither of them had even bothered to recolor the orignal.
What does everyone think about some stores starting to let tagger sized kits into them? Does this effect if you would purchase from that store? I have never really gotten what the whole tagger thing is but I guess it is a really popular hobby. I was just curious what everyone else thought about it.
May 16, 2009 11:01 PM
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None of the stores I shop at sell tagger size kits. I don't care if they do as long as they have high quality stuff that I like. But I won't buy the tagger size.
Right now the only stores that I know of that do sell them do not offer anything that I would be even download as a freebie. If there's better out there, enlighten me.
I really liked SuzyQ's kit.
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Me too! I downloaded it today! It had a good idea behind it...It had a little different twist.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the SO gang were down on Amanda for using copyrighted material and yet they are all swanning around using copyrighted material on their flair avatars? And before anyone goes on about the fact they aren't selling it, it doesn't matter, they are still using copyrighted material in an authorized way.
*unauthorized, not authorized.
Don't let the posts here make you think that all of the designers who got cut have sour grapes.
I got cut this week and I'm not even slightly upset about it. I was up against some very talented women. Granted there are a few people I felt should have moved on that didn't, but really in the scheme of things what does it matter? It's one contest.
Personally, I'm very happy with the exposure I got in the contest and the kits I personally created. I'm betting most of the other designers feel the same way.
Life is too short to spend it feeling bitter about a silly contest.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the SO gang were down on Amanda for using copyrighted material and yet they are all swanning around using copyrighted material on their flair avatars? And before anyone goes on about the fact they aren't selling it, it doesn't matter, they are still using copyrighted material in an authorized way.
May 17, 2009 12:17 AM
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You're an idiot. Amanda was making a profit of the pirated stuff.
Why don't you go ahead and report the SO designers to the proper authorities for stealing flair? :rolleyes:
You're an idiot. Amanda was making a profit of the pirated stuff.
Why don't you go ahead and report the SO designers to the proper authorities for stealing flair? :rolleyes:
May 17, 2009 12:29 AM
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I'm not an idiot. :rollseyes: back at you. I did mention that Amanda was selling and the SO people were not, so your argument has no validity :more eyerolling:
I think if you go and preach about copyright, you should set an example.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the SO gang were down on Amanda for using copyrighted material and yet they are all swanning around using copyrighted material on their flair avatars? And before anyone goes on about the fact they aren't selling it, it doesn't matter, they are still using copyrighted material in an authorized way.
May 17, 2009 12:17 AM
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You're an idiot. Amanda was making a profit of the pirated stuff.
Why don't you go ahead and report the SO designers to the proper authorities for stealing flair? :rolleyes:
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yeah you're a complete idiot. you think if you were wearing a piece of flair with a coke bottle on it, coca-cola would complain? no you dumb-ass, it's free advertising. plus, ever heard of facebook. that's where they're all coming from. get a grip.
Whatever. If you want to waste your energy on posting stupid crap like this, go right ahead. Unless you report it, it's not going to change.
12:52 was directed at 12:48
12:50, ITA!!!
I'm surprised that Fernlili made it to round 3, but Claudi Designs didn't.
yeah you're a complete idiot. you think if you were wearing a piece of flair with a coke bottle on it, coca-cola would complain? no you dumb-ass, it's free advertising. plus, ever heard of facebook. that's where they're all coming from. get a grip.
May 17, 2009 12:50 AM
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I find it amusing that you can only get your point across by being rude and name calling.
Just because it comes from Facebook, doesn't make it right, doh! And, Coke and the Little Miss and Little Men series are not the same thing at all. One is a multi billion dollar corporation, and the other isn't.
You are completely missing the point. Why don't you get a grip of a thesaurus and learn some new words.
Also note that at least Flergs made her own flair and little miss person. At least that shows originality, unlike the others, who had to steal from Facebook.
Little Miss and Little Men series are not the same thing at all. One is a multi billion dollar corporation, and the other isn't.
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Why don't email the Little Miss and Little Men then? Take it up with them! No one cares here!
Well miss I think everything should be done by scanning or tablet. I will tell you that I do not have either and I make a really good living at making my kits. It is not what you use in your kits but how you use them. Believe me I can take a cu item and totally change it to where you cannot tell it was a cu item to begin with. So yes I do consider myself a designer and OMG I use CU stuff!
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ok- post a link to your store and we'll all go look at these fabulous cu re-designs and let you know if we think you're a "good" designer.
I highly doubt you are anyone to judge others designs. It does not seem to me that they were even asking for input but making a statement. I swear some people!
This has to be the lamest smack-attack ever. If I had any artistic ability whatsover, I'd totally make you a Little Miss Lame-O button so you wouldn't feel left out :-(
Apparently the all-mighty smack blog has fallen to- flair copyright infringement! And it's not even hidden as those evil-doers even left the original creator's name on most of it! The horror!
Go find something real to whine about... Geez...
One is a multi billion dollar corporation, and the other isn't.
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Um, I'm pretty sure Cartoon Network is a billion dollar corporation.
And you really should check out their terms of use before you start throwing out accusations:
http://www.mrmen.com/
Just because it comes from Facebook, doesn't make it right, doh! And, Coke and the Little Miss and Little Men series are not the same thing at all. One is a multi billion dollar corporation, and the other isn't.
You are completely missing the point. Why don't you get a grip of a thesaurus and learn some new words.
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Can't say I understand your complaint at all, but assuming you're complaining about what I think you're complaining about, what difference does the size of the company make? So in your estimation, ripping off a small company is bad, but a big company is okay? Talk about contradictions...
And I love this - "get a grip of a thesaurus". I have no idea what the hell this means, but it certainly sounds impressive! LOL!
"You agree not to modify, copy, reproduce, broadcast, republish, sell, resell, exploit, create derivative works or distribute in any way any portion of mrmen.com or the Materials"
"Related characters and distinctive likenesses thereof, designs, logos, artwork and literal elements are copyrights of Mr Men Limited, [etc]."
"Any unauthorized use of these marks and copyrights is unlawful."
"The Material may be used by you only for your personal, noncommercial use as provided in these Terms, It may not be taken out of context or presented in a false, misleading, derogatory, discriminatory or otherwise offensive manner."
"You are granted a personal, limited, non-transferable, non-exclusive licence to access mrmen.com and use, for noncommercial purposes only, mrmen.com and the Material, provided that you do not, and do not allow any third party to, modify or create a derivative work of, reverse engineer, disassemble, or otherwise attempt to discover any source code in software available on mrmen.com."
"Unauthorized or prohibited use of mrmen.com or the Material may subject you or the offending party to civil liability and criminal prosecution."
(from: http://www.mrmen.com/us/uk/tandc/index.html)
You are granted a personal, limited, non-transferable, non-exclusive licence to access mrmen.com and use, for noncommercial purposes only, mrmen.com and the Material
Why are you making such a deal out of this? I was talking about irony and get smacked for it? Wow, talk about irony again!
well, now you have the link to report them and leave us alone.
Except the Mr.Men company will tell you it falls within the personal useage terms. No profit is being made.
"The Material may be used by you only for your personal, noncommercial use as provided in these Terms, It may not be taken out of context or presented in a false, misleading, derogatory, discriminatory or otherwise offensive manner."
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And you think Little Miss Cougar is non derogatory do you? Quite a few of those flairs could be considered offensive.
irony and get smacked for it? Wow, talk about irony again!
May 17, 2009 1:40 AM
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You really are an idiot. You post smack on a smack blog and then can't handle being smacked right back? There's no irony in that. You are AT a smack blog!
And you think Little Miss Cougar is non derogatory do you? Quite a few of those flairs could be considered offensive.
May 17, 2009 1:41 AM
REPORT IT! IDIOT! Let them work it out.
You really are an idiot. You post smack on a smack blog and then can't handle being smacked right back? There's no irony in that. You are AT a smack blog!
May 17, 2009 1:42 AM
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Where did I say I couldn't handle it? No where did I say that. I wish people would learn to read what is there instead of what they think is there.
and get smacked for it?
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right here you are questioning being smacked. Your. own. words.
Why are you making such a deal out of this? I was talking about irony and get smacked for it? Wow, talk about irony again!
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You were the one who brought it up! Now you're complaining about being smacked for your attempted smack?
Comparing what Amanda did to using some stupid cartoon for flair is a horrible analogy and not even remotely close to the same thing. Whether you want to admit it or not, you were 100% wrong to try and draw any sort of comparison between the two.
Alternate words for idiot:
blockhead, cretin, dimwit, dork, dumbbell, dunce, fool, ignoramus, imbecile, jerk, kook, moron, muttonhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, out to lunch, pinhead, simpleton, stupid, tomfool, twit
Why not use some of them and improve your vocabulary.
Why not use some of them and improve your vocabulary.
May 17, 2009 1:45 AM
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Idiot suits the bill. But thank you for giving me a list of other names that I think describe your sorry ass.
and get smacked for it?
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right here you are questioning being smacked. Your. own. words.
May 17, 2009 1:45 AM
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Not if you heard me say it.
Comparing what Amanda did to using some stupid cartoon for flair is a horrible analogy and not even remotely close to the same thing. Whether you want to admit it or not, you were 100% wrong to try and draw any sort of comparison between the two.
May 17, 2009 1:45 AM
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EXACTLY! BRAVO!!!
Idiot suits the bill. But thank you for giving me a list of other names that I think describe your sorry ass.
May 17, 2009 1:47 AM
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I'd rather be my sorry ass than be you. I can at least appreciate the absurdity of the situation, whereas I'm sure, you aren't even aware of it.
Comparing what Amanda did to using some stupid cartoon for flair is a horrible analogy and not even remotely close to the same thing. Whether you want to admit it or not, you were 100% wrong to try and draw any sort of comparison between the two.
May 17, 2009 1:45 AM
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EXACTLY! BRAVO!!!
May 17, 2009 1:47 AM
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Applauding yourself doesn't count.
Not if you heard me say it.
May 17, 2009 1:47 AM
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IDIOT. I can't hear you talk so all I can do is read the words. Maybe if you weren't such and IDIOT you could communicate better?
I think the operative phrase is this:
"You agree not to MODIFY, COPY, reproduce, broadcast, republish, sell, resell, exploit, CREATE DERIVATIVE WORKS or distribute in any way ANY portion of mrmen.com or the Materials"...
Even if they come from facebook, mrmen.com clearly states what you can and cannot do.It doesn't matter if you sell them or not - you cannot make anything (like flair buttons) from them.
I think the original poster made a very valid point: it is ironic that designers & store owners who 'should' be on par with ANY copyright are so flippant over disregarding TOU that is VERY clear on the subject. I know they did it all in jest, but it does not lead by example...
IDIOT. I can't hear you talk so all I can do is read the words. Maybe if you weren't such and IDIOT you could communicate better?
May 17, 2009 1:50 AM
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An idiot, not And. Oh this is too much fun.
Applauding yourself doesn't count.
May 17, 2009 1:49 AM
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Now your just a lame idiot copying everyone else who doesn't have a good comeback on this blog. I didn't post the 1:45 comment. I was too busy typing another post about how idiotic you are.
I think the original poster made a very valid point: it is ironic that designers & store owners who 'should' be on par with ANY copyright are so flippant over disregarding TOU that is VERY clear on the subject. I know they did it all in jest, but it does not lead by example...
May 17, 2009 1:50 AM
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I think I love you! Someone who gets what I was trying to say.
Now your just a lame idiot copying everyone else who doesn't have a good comeback on this blog. I didn't post the 1:45 comment. I was too busy typing another post about how idiotic you are.
May 17, 2009 1:51 AM
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I'm lame? When all you can say is idiot? I gave you such a nice list too.
I think I love you! Someone who gets what I was trying to say.
May 17, 2009 1:52 AM
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Yes, but they clearly aren't as idiotic as you are. Their post made sense AND they didn't bring up AD just to add drama.
If it bothers you email SO. Email Mr.Men. Email Facebook.
Even if they come from facebook, mrmen.com clearly states what you can and cannot do.It doesn't matter if you sell them or not - you cannot make anything (like flair buttons) from them.
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Oh, goody, another one! You seriously want to jump in on this? Not to mention, these Terms of Use are for the WEBSITE mrmen.com and it's content. That's what all that crap about source code and blah de blah is for.
If you really, truly, think this is so horrible that the universe is about to end, by all means contact the FBI or dial 911 or something. I'd love to see how much they bill you for wasting their time!
I'm lame? When all you can say is idiot? I gave you such a nice list too.
May 17, 2009 1:53 AM
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and that makes you even more of an idiot
Yes, but they clearly aren't as idiotic as you are. Their post made sense AND they didn't bring up AD just to add drama.
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I didn't mention AD to add to the drama. I was mentioning her as they fired her sorry butt for copyright infringement, and then they do the same thing.
It was everyone else who created the drama and making mountains out of flairs. It's obviously a slow time for everyone out there today.
and that makes you even more of an idiot
May 17, 2009 1:57 AM
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Why?
Why?
May 17, 2009 2:00 AM
BECAUSE. You gave me a list of other "idiot" names to call you. Which means you are an idiot by your own admission. That did not make you look smart.
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Even if they come from facebook, mrmen.com clearly states what you can and cannot do.It doesn't matter if you sell them or not - you cannot make anything (like flair buttons) from them.
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Oh, goody, another one! You seriously want to jump in on this? Not to mention, these Terms of Use are for the WEBSITE mrmen.com and it's content. That's what all that crap about source code and blah de blah is for.
If you really, truly, think this is so horrible that the universe is about to end, by all means contact the FBI or dial 911 or something. I'd love to see how much they bill you for wasting their time!
May 17, 2009 1:55 AM
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Geesh..... overeact much?? I don't see anyone making such a big deal of it as you are making. You must be sporting one of the LilMiss avatars yourself to react SO vehemently. Scared someone is going to report you to the copyright police and your reputation goes down the drain?
Chill out, already ..... I don't think anyone on this blog is out to have those people fired on the basis of a funny little picture.
I think all they wanted to show is that some people are hypocrites when they scream bloody murder over a copyrighted doodle/flower/whatever, but they disregard copyright themselves (small as it may be...)
BECAUSE. You gave me a list of other "idiot" names to call you. Which means you are an idiot by your own admission. That did not make you look smart.
May 17, 2009 2:08 AM
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My own admission? I don't think so, but if I'm idiot, and you are therefore, by process of elimination, smart, I think I'd rather be an idiot because smart doesn't look all that intelligent.
So, if I'm a fan of something and a designer, I can't sport an avatar that is purely personal use, and protect my own copyrights?
What about all the twilight avatars?
you are therefore, by process of elimination, smart
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this right here is the smartest thing you have said all night. ;)
So, if I'm a fan of something and a designer, I can't sport an avatar that is purely personal use, and protect my own copyrights?
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No, that would make you look like a hypocrit by this crowd.
Even though the other person is selling your designs and making a profit vs. you providing free advertising for the avatar you "sport".
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So, if I'm a fan of something and a designer, I can't sport an avatar that is purely personal use, and protect my own copyrights?
What about all the twilight avatars?
May 17, 2009 2:15 AM
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I think it just depends on what the designer's TOU are, really. I can't see them complaining about anyone sporting their blinkie. They probably had someone specially make those up for others to wear, plus it's advertising for them. I don't think they will state something in their TOU that prohibits it so explicitly as mrmen.com.
As for the Twilight and other stuff, again, it will depend on what their TOU states.
So, if I'm a fan of something and a designer, I can't sport an avatar that is purely personal use, and protect my own copyrights?
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It would depend on the copyright terms attached to the image you are using. You can sport whatever you want, as long as it's within the terms of the copyright, but don't preach about breach of your copyright, if you are doing the same thing. It's a little hypocritical.
you providing free advertising for the avatar you "sport".
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I'm not exactly sure how the Mr Men avatars are providing free advertising. That's a stretch.
I'm not exactly sure how the Mr Men avatars are providing free advertising. That's a stretch.
May 17, 2009 2:22 AM
When I saw them I thought about the books and went to put some of my wishlist to buy for the kids. I loved those books. I forgot about them!
So you are saying the SO shouldn't have fired Amanda Dykan just so that they can sport their Little Miss avies?
So you are saying the SO shouldn't have fired Amanda Dykan just so that they can sport their Little Miss avies?
May 17, 2009 2:25 AM
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No, I'm not saying that at all. I just said I find it ironic.
When I saw them I thought about the books and went to put some of my wishlist to buy for the kids. I loved those books. I forgot about them!
May 17, 2009 2:24 AM
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You must not go to a book store much, they are all the over place in the kids section. But I'm glad you found them again.
as it's within the terms of the copyright, but don't preach about breach of your copyright, if you are doing the same thing. It's a little hypocritical.
May 17, 2009 2:21 AM
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But the problem is that the person making the accusations and spreading the rumors rarely checks the terms themselves to see if it is ok. I would read the terms for the Mr. Men and see that as ok for personal useage. Clearly some people do not feel that is the case.
I think my point here is maybe we should worry about ourselves and not try to point fingers and accuse other people until we are absolutely sure that person has breached copyright.
You must not go to a book store much, they are all the over place in the kids section. But I'm glad you found them again.
May 17, 2009 2:36 AM
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Nope, I usually go to the library or buy used on Amazon. But now I do remember seeing them at the library.
But the avies did work on one person. And I'll have my kids watch the videos on the website. Really cute stuff!
But who's idea was it for the avatars at SO? At the sites I visit, the CT comes up with that stuff. Sheesh, just let them have some fun. Loosen up a bit!
I would read the terms for the Mr. Men and see that as ok for personal useage. Clearly some people do not feel that is the case.
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The terms on the Mr Men site:
The Material may be used by you only for your personal, noncommercial use as provided in these Terms, It may not be taken out of context or presented in a false, misleading, derogatory, discriminatory or otherwise offensive manner.The avvies are taken out of context, are misleading, etc.
It has nothing to do with not allowing any one to have fun. As I said earlier, Flergs took the theme and made HER OWN version. What's wrong with the others doing the same?
Loosen up a bit!
May 17, 2009 2:40 AM
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It's this attitude that has caused a lot of problems. Oh let it go, it was bit of fun, it was only a mistake, she only did it once, etc. How many times have we seen this only to have it bite us in the bum?
It's this attitude that has caused a lot of problems. Oh let it go, it was bit of fun, it was only a mistake, she only did it once, etc. How many times have we seen this only to have it bite us in the bum?
May 17, 2009 2:50 AM
they'd have to take down more than just digiscrappers. I would think if Mr. Men CARED or felt their copyright was in violation they would have already been removed from Facebook Flair. I don't think it's a violation even if you put a gloss overlay on them. If you sold them in a kit and tried to say "but I changed it by making it a flair" that wouldn't fly.
Digital Candy & AD are still listed as sponsors:
http://www.scrapandpapercorner.com/events/dse/sponsors.html
There is a huge difference between someone who knows her software, knows how to extract, knows how to design etc..... and someone who merely recolors and assembles things made by others.
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The only difference is that the designer who can make it herself doesn't have to spend money on CU items! The only thing that really matters is who can come up with a beautiful product, regardless of 'how' it was made.
There are probably designers that are very talented technically, who can extract, create, design gorgeous elements and papers, but still can't put together an attractive and useful kit.
On the other hand, there may be a designer that isn't that good at creating individual pieces, but has an eye for color and a vision. They may be able to put together beautiful collections using some CU products. I see nothing wrong with that.
Think about this analogy: One persona may be able to grow plants but not create a beautiful garden. Another may not be able to grow the plants, but they may be able to put all the plants together into a master garden.
But, I do have one complaint about the SYTYCD contest: I really think the entries ought to be anonymous. Otherwise, it can NEVER be objective in the digi-community - there are just too many alliances and relationships. Think about it - Could you imagine the scandal if Faith True or Flergs were elminated in the early rounds? I just don't think it would ever happen even no matter what. The only way to give everyone a fair shot, it should have been set-up anonymously.
SO gang AKA the "DSA" gals. Their continued crudeness and professionalism is disgusting to me.
I don't post or go there anymore, threads like "if easily offended, don't read" are rude...like if you can't handle being a potty mouth or can't hang with the big girls...just wallow over there. You aren't welcome here.
The continued undertones of sexual references and the smilies of having sex are just over the top.
I lost respect for a few designers because of their crude humor and yes some of their avatars. Copyrighted or not. It is a very exclusionary group. It is not one I support.
People talk about how scrap booking as a business is not looked at as professional~if some of the post were said in an office situation, they would be fired immediately.
I believe they are unprofessional, and that will eventually come back to hurt them. I wish no ill will on them, but do hope that they clean up a bit. It has some great aspects to it, but I don't want to be part of it.
I totally agree. I'm not a prude by any stretch of the imagination and think some of those threads are fun. But.....there is a fine line between being professional and being raunchy on an open site. There is a place for everything I do believe. So while I don't necessarily disagree with them having a bit of fun below the belt, it has most definitely altered my view of some designers. Not for the better, I might add. Even some designers I had a lot of respect for before have tainted my opinion of them. I think it's important to uphold a professional image in this community and over there the lines get blurred.
I subscribed to DSA months ago and thought it was a neat alternative to the cliques of DST. But I have yet to make a post.....I have been checking out the types of conversations there and I'm sorry to say I feel extremely uncomfortable. It seems to me as if there is an even stronger clique that people like me don't fit into.
I'm not a feisty 20-something designer or scrapper, I'm not one of the trendy names or part of the "in" crowd. I'm just an ordinary scrapper who feels like a fish out of water both at DSA and DST. No,I'm not the fat kid who got teased at school, but just someone looking for a place to hang out where I feel comfortable making a comment and not looked down upon by the elite clique.
SO gang AKA the "DSA" gals. Their continued crudeness and professionalism is disgusting to me.
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I totally agree. I'm not a prude by any stretch of the imagination and think some of those threads are fun.
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I actually like both sites you mentioned and spend a fair amount of time on each. Exclusionary isn't really how I would describe my experiences at either, but I can maybe see how, if you're perhaps a bit more on the conservative side, some of it may be a bit out of your "comfort zone" and I suppose that's a valid criticsm. By the same token, though, I have a much harder time accepting that you truly feel this way and have no other agenda as here you are posting (and I have to believe, reading) one of the crudest, most profanity riddled blogs out there.
So, for me, I find both SO and DSA amusing and silly, but I do (sort of) see your point.
I think there's a difference between posting risque comments with your real designer name attached, and posting anonymous on this blog. Does that sound hypocritical? Yes, perhaps it does. You never know "who" is behind all these anon blog posts, but you do know who reveals themselves on places like DSA/DST. Attaching your designer name to those posts she mentioned associates you with an unprofessional image IMO. Of course, I have no doubt many a well known designer posts here under the cloak of anonymity who we would never believe to spout such vulgarities as are often seen...
I think there's a difference between posting risque comments with your real designer name attached, and posting anonymous on this blog. Does that sound hypocritical? Yes, perhaps it does. You never know "who" is behind all these anon blog posts, but you do know who reveals themselves on places like DSA/DST. Attaching your designer name to those posts she mentioned associates you with an unprofessional image IMO. Of course, I have no doubt many a well known designer posts here under the cloak of anonymity who we would never believe to spout such vulgarities as are often seen...
May 17, 2009 10:17 AM
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ITA!!! Well said and their lack of class and the whole trying to act like a teenager again when they are obviously middle aged women has put me off and I will not be buying from some of them due to that. Their crudeness is not silly it is just plain dumb for business!
LMBOOOOOOOOO!!! Someone pointed out this tagger and full size kit site to me....I was scared away at the home page. I would not buy from this place.
http://desireddesignsnscraps.com/store/
Trashy posers. Yuck! As I said before I have yet to find a store that sells tagger stuff that I would even be willing to download for free. They are so tacky!
Trashy posers. Yuck! As I said before I have yet to find a store that sells tagger stuff that I would even be willing to download for free. They are so tacky!
May 17, 2009 11:13 AM
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Then, I realized I knew some of the women designing there and it made it even more hilarious because they are trashy women!! LOL!!
I agree it's very tacky but everyone has their own style. Quality is one thing but if you just don't like something because it doesn't fit your style then you're okay because there's hundreds, if not thousands, of different styles out there for you to choose from.
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So trashy poser dolls are your style? Do you put them on layouts with your kids?
So trashy poser dolls are your style? Do you put them on layouts with your kids?
May 17, 2009 11:43 AM
ROFL...I would love to know the answer to this as well?????
touche' point about reading here and seeing unprofessionalism at DSA, and I will debate the point, I come here knowing that it is a slamfest and will have jerks/rude folks. I understand not all is truth, some are very angry people hurt either by real or unreal circumstance. I also have seen some pretty vulgar post here. I know it could be here, and come knowing, but it is a slamming blog.
When I go to DST, DSA, MSA or DTS all 4 are wanting to be the place you go for the "hub" of digiscrapping, open gallerys, ability to enable, praise threads etc. A business.
This blog has opened my squeezed shut eyes to the piracy and "sweetness" of digiworld.
DSA, again I say I don't wish bad things on them, but find it offensive that they try to portray themselves as business woman but their crudeness comes again and again to the forefront.
I appreciate you bringing up the what seemed hypercritical, and hope I have made it clear the difference.
for one more point, designers ask to enable or post at some of the 4 wanting to be "hubs" of digiland, haven't seen one call yet to enable or post here.
Lordy, lordy...someone has a high and mighty stick up their ass, don't they? And if I did put poser dolls in my layouts with my kids, what then? You'd critisize me...yep, 'cause that's obviously what you do.
I can't understand the point of extracting your child out of a photo and plopping them down in the middle of some freakish fantasy page and sticking wings on them. Who am I to say that's wrong?
Anyway...you COMPLETELY missed the point of my post.
Let me bring it down a fewl levels so you can grasp the concept of what I was trying to say.
Person A likes flip-flops. Person B prefers sneakers. Therefore, each person buys what they like and doesn't buy what they don't like. I hope that's better. I can bring it down even further using pre-school language, if you like.
You seem to be Person C. You like flip-flops but for whatever reason feel compelled to laugh and sneer at person A because they like sneakers.
touche' point about reading here and seeing unprofessionalism at DSA, and I will debate the point, I come here knowing that it is a slamfest and will have jerks/rude folks. I understand not all is truth, some are very angry people hurt either by real or unreal circumstance. I also have seen some pretty vulgar post here. I know it could be here, and come knowing, but it is a slamming blog.
When I go to DST, DSA, MSA or DTS all 4 are wanting to be the place you go for the "hub" of digiscrapping, open gallerys, ability to enable, praise threads etc. A business.
This blog has opened my squeezed shut eyes to the piracy and "sweetness" of digiworld.
DSA, again I say I don't wish bad things on them, but find it offensive that they try to portray themselves as business woman but their crudeness comes again and again to the forefront.
I appreciate you bringing up the what seemed hypercritical, and hope I have made it clear the difference.
for one more point, designers ask to enable or post at some of the 4 wanting to be "hubs" of digiland, haven't seen one call yet to enable or post here.
May 17, 2009 12:09 PM
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My eyes are now wide open as well. You aren't the only one.
Lordy, lordy...someone has a high and mighty stick up their ass, don't they? And if I did put poser dolls in my layouts with my kids, what then? You'd critisize me...yep, 'cause that's obviously what you do.
I can't understand the point of extracting your child out of a photo and plopping them down in the middle of some freakish fantasy page and sticking wings on them. Who am I to say that's wrong?
Anyway...you COMPLETELY missed the point of my post.
Let me bring it down a fewl levels so you can grasp the concept of what I was trying to say.
Person A likes flip-flops. Person B prefers sneakers. Therefore, each person buys what they like and doesn't buy what they don't like. I hope that's better. I can bring it down even further using pre-school language, if you like.
You seem to be Person C. You like flip-flops but for whatever reason feel compelled to laugh and sneer at person A because they like sneakers.
May 17, 2009 12:21 PM
Last time I checked this was a SMACK blog so anyone can say whatever they like! If you want to teach semantics get a degree and become a teacher. Otherwise, take your opinion that is so utterly ridiculous and STFU!!!
Well, I'll shut the fuck up when you do, how's that?
I'd love to stay and have a school yard fight with you but I have to go throw together some layouts of my kids with some half-naked poser doll in them. I prefer ones with big tits.
You go stick some wings and a halo on your baby and stick them next to a unicorn. Make sure you go show your BFFs and be sure to throw in some OMGs and ROFLs in there, too.
OK, now I am wondering.. is the crude talk you are referring to my post about the Yo Gabba Gabba thing? I am really sorry if I offended someone, but really, I was just joking around and blowing off steam. I certainly would not joke about stuff like that in the work place or around men for that matter. But seeing as it is 99% grown women hanging out in these forums, I thought it would be okay to joke in a PG 13 kind of way. Yes, I am a designer and I treat my business as such. I make sure I put out quality products that people would want to scrap with. But I am also just another forum poster/scrapper who enjoys making friends in the community. Just because I design doesn't mean I have to be unfriendly and act like someone I'm not, does it? If so, why??
Well, I'll shut the fuck up when you do, how's that?
I'd love to stay and have a school yard fight with you but I have to go throw together some layouts of my kids with some half-naked poser doll in them. I prefer ones with big tits.
You go stick some wings and a halo on your baby and stick them next to a unicorn. Make sure you go show your BFFs and be sure to throw in some OMGs and ROFLs in there, too.
May 17, 2009 12:57 PM
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I just came to see what was new on the blog today and LMAO! You have some serious anger issues...try taking some prozac and chill! You get all flustered over a blog...that is just too effin' hilarious! Get a life seriously! How pathetic!
Amy---if that was really you posting. I think Yo Gabba Gabba is awesome and I would never find that offensive it is some of the others on there that I do have a problem with. I don't think you were the one they were referring too. :)
I'd love to stay and have a school yard fight with you but I have to go throw together some layouts of my kids with some half-naked poser doll in them. I prefer ones with big tits.
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WOW! You're a pervert. I guess you let them watch porn too because you're just so open minded?
FYI I don't use the fantasy stuff either. I prefer the paper look with cute buttons and polka dot ribbons. Keep it sweet.
I would not put something on my layout that I think is not appropriate for my children. These are their books too. You can do what you want but don't be crying 15 years from now when your child is in jail for prostitution or sodomy.
I'd love to stay and have a school yard fight with you but I have to go throw together some layouts of my kids with some half-naked poser doll in them. I prefer ones with big tits.
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WOW! You're a pervert. I guess you let them watch porn too because you're just so open minded?
FYI I don't use the fantasy stuff either. I prefer the paper look with cute buttons and polka dot ribbons. Keep it sweet.
I would not put something on my layout that I think is not appropriate for my children. These are their books too. You can do what you want but don't be crying 15 years from now when your child is in jail for prostitution or sodomy.
May 17, 2009 1:25 PM
NOW...that was well put and I so agree. The first poster is not classy one bit probably smokes dope and has sex in front of her kids. Wow, what a shame there are people like you.
Amy, that is where you are wrong. There are kids who scrap and do hang out in the forums.
And to the other poster who thinks the Yo Gabba Gabba post isn't an example of the problem: did you read the thread? Yo Gabba Gabba itself isn't the issue. Its what she was comparing it to and how the conversation progressed.
I'm no prude, and I don't care if people talk about this stuff. However, I do think it should be in its own spot, and not where it is easily accessed by children.
Did you all get your appreciation kit?
http://www.creativeteamappreciationweek.com/
Amy, that is where you are wrong. There are kids who scrap and do hang out in the forums.
And to the other poster who thinks the Yo Gabba Gabba post isn't an example of the problem: did you read the thread? Yo Gabba Gabba itself isn't the issue. Its what she was comparing it to and how the conversation progressed.
I'm no prude, and I don't care if people talk about this stuff. However, I do think it should be in its own spot, and not where it is easily accessed by children.
May 17, 2009 1:40 PM
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i've read this thread you're talking about. there isn't anything in there that's any worse than some of the stuff on t.v and the radio. anymore these days, i can't even listen to the radio with my children in the car, every other "ad" is for condoms, lube, viagra... basically sex, sex, sex.
as for kids scrapping and having access to that forum, you as a parent should always be monitoring what *your* children have access to, be it on-line, on t.v., on the radio. no amount of censorship will ever be a substitute for good parenting. if you don't want your kids to access that forum, then use your parental controls to block the site.
i'm sorry but that's the lamest excuse i've heard in a long time.
oh and btw, those same kids can also read this blog...
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ITA!!! And on top of that before getting down on Amy look at what Irene said that was plastered on the home page...What was better before sliced bread? Her answer: Sex.
I'm no prude, and I don't care if people talk about this stuff. However, I do think it should be in its own spot, and not where it is easily accessed by children.
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i've read this thread you're talking about. there isn't anything in there that's any worse than some of the stuff on t.v and the radio.
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ITA with the second poster. Give me a break... Children hanging out at DSA? I'd wager a fair amount of money that no one under the age of 18 (and definitely 16) has ever even accidentally been to DSA/DST or any other digiscrap 'hub'. Pretty sure they're all too busy flashing each other on myspace to care about what a bunch of 25-50 year old, mostly married with kids, women are interested in.
Don't worry 1:58; I'm not a parent of a young child. This blog is different from a site like DSA or DST because this blog is completely for that kind of behavior. DSA and DST are for scrapping. Scrapping kids go to DSA and DST to post layouts and keep up with scrapping talk, with their parents permission. This site can be blocked with parental controls, as there is no other reason for them to be here. See the difference?
Not all TV/Radio is full of trash. I agree a lot of it is. Regardless, parents who have a problem with the posts at DSA are probably not allowing their children to watch a lot of TV or listen to a lot of radio anyway.
Yours is the same argument that I hear from parents who host parties for their teenage children. "I know that all of the other kids out there drink anyway, so I'd just rather have it happen here." Doesn't make it right.
ITA with the second poster. Give me a break... Children hanging out at DSA? I'd wager a fair amount of money that no one under the age of 18 (and definitely 16) has ever even accidentally been to DSA/DST or any other digiscrap 'hub'. Pretty sure they're all too busy flashing each other on myspace to care about what a bunch of 25-50 year old, mostly married with kids, women are interested in.
May 17, 2009 2:06 PM
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to those of you who think that the worst thing on the internet for a child to see is some vague innuendo about a children's show characters strong resemblance to sex toy (and yet not be offended that said character friggin resembles a sex toy!) and the word sex... you all are tragically mistaken.
and should a child have access to a computer with no blocks on it, i am sure the *first* place they're going to run to is some digital scrapbooking website to read some obscure thread with vague sexual references.
man you're really reaching on this one... i think you need to go back to the drawing board and come up with another "plan of attack" because this one just ain't cuttin' it, lady.
2:06 Just one example for you: madigirl. She won a couple of categories for the DSA scrap off. The kids who do hang out at DSA and DST are the homeschooling kids whose parents are anal about what they view and probably won't be allowing their children to visit DSA much longer. If that's what DSA wants, then that's fine. But it seemed to me that they wanted to be a hub of scrapbooking.
Yours is the same argument that I hear from parents who host parties for their teenage children. "I know that all of the other kids out there drink anyway, so I'd just rather have it happen here." Doesn't make it right.
May 17, 2009 2:12 PM
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um not even close... it scares me that people with your mental capacity are able to function in our society.
how is saying that it is up to *you* as a parent to monitor your children even remotely the same thing as saying "well they're gonna do it anyway"? in fact it's the exact opposite. you as a parent should know if another parent is going to give your child alcohol. you should know who your kids friends are and who their parents are and what they are doing. i would never assume that another adult has *my* childs best interest at heart or that they would make the same decisions i would make for my child.
just when i thought this argument couldn't get any more stupid, you go an prove me wrong.
I should have copied the part I was referring to.
"there isn't anything in there that's any worse than some of the stuff on t.v and the radio. anymore these days, i can't even listen to the radio with my children in the car, every other "ad" is for condoms, lube, viagra... basically sex, sex, sex."
Just because its no worse than the TV/Radio doesn't make it right. I covered the "monitor your children" part already.
I only referred to Amy's thread, as she posted about it here. As other people have already mentioned, there's plenty of other stuff on DSA that's worse.
Just because I design doesn't mean I have to be unfriendly and act like someone I'm not, does it? If so, why??
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Well, since no one else seems to what to answer your question, Amy, I will!
I think you should absolutely NOT try to act like someone you're not in the forums, either at DSA/DST or elsewhere. I personally found your post very funny and I'd much rather buy scrap from someone who isn't always all "OMG, rainbows, unicorns, and world peace!" but actually has similar life experiences to mine.
Kudos to you for stepping up non-anonymously!
Ummm, maybe this is a dumb question (since I'm pretty sure the answer is no), but have you bothered to contact the owners of DSA with your concerns? Or do you think posting anonymously on a smack blog is the way to go instead? I hate it when people bitch about something but don't actually try to do anything about it first proactively. If you fit in this category then shame on you!
Not entirely sure, but I'm pretty sure the forum they're running (looks like vBulletin) is capable of putting filters in place based on the age you indicated when you signed up. So, maybe if you actually tried *asking* them FIRST they'd do so! And if not, THEN smack away (even if it's something as dumb as this, at least you would have made some effort to resolve how "concerned" you are first).
Just sayin'.....
First,thanks to those who are sticking up for me. LOL! Second, for the person I upset, I did post that thread in the Total Drama Island section, where the less family friendly stuff goes. But I do agree that I wouldn't want little kids to read that. See, that's what I LIKE about DSA though, I feel like I can let my hair down there and be myself and not all proper and on guard, kwim? But, I do think of myself as a pretty family friendly designer, so maybe I could tone it down a smidge. I will think about that. Oh and to the poster who made the comment about the kids being too busy on MySpace.. that made me laugh! LOL! You're funny and sarcastic, I like you! We should be friends! ;0) And finally to the last poster, thanks! =0) OK, I am going to shut up now and slink back to my little cave.
I should have copied the part I was referring to.
"there isn't anything in there that's any worse than some of the stuff on t.v and the radio. anymore these days, i can't even listen to the radio with my children in the car, every other "ad" is for condoms, lube, viagra... basically sex, sex, sex."
Just because its no worse than the TV/Radio doesn't make it right. I covered the "monitor your children" part already.
I only referred to Amy's thread, as she posted about it here. As other people have already mentioned, there's plenty of other stuff on DSA that's worse.
May 17, 2009 2:27 PM
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and did you read the next part of my comment where i said i don't listen to the radio when my kids are in the car?
i'm saying if you want to get yourself all worked up in a tissy over something that's potentially offensive to minors, take your picky lady because it's everywhere but pointing at everyone else and demanding they change isn't going to get you anywhere. the only thing *you* can do to protect *your* kids is to monitor what they are exposed to.
again...i know it takes more than 2 brain cells to follow the bouncing ball but your should really understand the fundamentals of the argument before you speak out against it.
well, as OP of dsa discussion and one willing to debate the matter.
I (me) have chosen not to have it be a part of the hub I go to. I do think if you are in business (as a designer or CT for that matter) you are representing your product or designer, as long as your name or their name is on it.
at DST, when the topic is very HOT, emotional, I remove my siggy's for I am not speaking for the designers, but myself.
Amy's post to me was beyond the business end of scrapping, and I do look at her differently now. I do make layouts of my kids, family and friends. I buy kits I like, but if I saw one done by Amy and someone else (I didn't know) and they were kinda the same...I would go with the other because of the how I saw her in that thread. (it isn't the first thread that I went, dang, that was over the line, but Amy brought it up, so I used that one also)
I am not saying anyone else should not go or not buy her kits, .God forbid! I choose to not go there due to the unbusiness like nature and crudeness that alot of the threads divert too.
This is my choice, if that is what is humorous and okay to you, go, have fun, laugh enjoy.
What I am so trying and think failing miserably at is to express that it is supposed to be a business (yes, you can have fun too), but I (ME, not you) have not enjoyed the banter it has turned crude too many times.
for the record, I hope it changes, I think it would be good for DST to have competition, and DSa seemed to be the one with the vibrancy and life to give DST a run for it's money. I just wish it didn't cross the line to vulgarity as often as it does.
There.
amy, i agree that i love seeing who you are as a person and it makes you much more real to me. i loved your post because i thought the exact same thing.
and to the person who is so offended by DSA, i agree with the other woman who suggests you actually do something about it and contact DSA, but then that would take your anonymity away and i'm sure you just want to smack everyone but not actually stand behind your words...
ITA with the second poster. Give me a break... Children hanging out at DSA? I'd wager a fair amount of money that no one under the age of 18 (and definitely 16) has ever even accidentally been to DSA/DST or any other digiscrap 'hub'. Pretty sure they're all too busy flashing each other on myspace to care about what a bunch of 25-50 year old, mostly married with kids, women are interested in.
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I just wanted to say that I'm 18 and I've been going on digi sites since I was 16. I also know there's a designer that even owns a store and she's only 14 or 15, I think her name is Kiki. Anyways, I wasn't arguing with anything you said or anything, I was just saying there are a few of us younger ones, probably not many, but some. However, I'm sure we've seen worse things than the things at DSA. I don't really see anything wrong with it. Anyways, carry on.
Amyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! I love you and your sense of humor! Screw the sour pusses who want to rain on everyone's parade. Stay out of DSA if you don't like it their and with the holier than thou attitude you have I can say you won't be missed. I got so bored reading the post from Miss Sourpuss I nearly fell asleep. Go preach somewhere else pleaseeeeeeeeeeee! YO GABBA GABBA!!!
I just wanted to say that I'm 18 and I've been going on digi sites since I was 16.
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Alrighty, I'll take my lumps and I stand corrected, Shilo. Although I will say that by children I was really referring to like kids under 14ish. I remember back when I was in high school (think that's around 14?), if someone would have called me a 'child' and that I needed protecting from something as relatively minor as the posts at DSA I would have been pretty annoyed about that. Lord knows I certainly saw waaayyy worse back then. Anyways, thanks for sharing and didn't mean to offend any of the younger digiscrappers that may be out there.
WOW! You're a pervert. I guess you let them watch porn too because you're just so open minded?
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Yeah...that's JUST what I do. Porn all day every day. We're all just a bunch of horny sex freaks in my household. I'm teaching my kids so they can start early.
It's called scarcasm. Look it up.
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No, you are called an idiot for posting the most inane crap on here. Seriously, someone call the people with the straight jackets and come and get this loon!
when I go into a bookstore and am looking at books and I go around the corner and the owner of the bookstore and the employees are all reading porn and saying how much the love porn and the freedome to read it in this bookstore~
I don't go and complain to the bookstore, I go, oops, this ain't the place for me. If someones asks or brings up that bookstore, I will chime in, "naw, i don't go to that bookstore, they have a real bent towards porn" I will express my opinion.
I don't try and close the store, I don't call the owner to tell him how dare he?
I don't go.
I did talk with one admin at DSA, and she said she didn't see it...and so I figure, okay, that's their slant, I don't go.
Really, it's doing fine, I'm sure without me. lol
Ya'll have a good time. And if you too aren't keen on going, I'm not looking for a coalition to join me, just my opinion being expressed.
I have appreciated some of the banter back and forth in this discussion and hey a lot of you keep coming back to read it too..
Alrighty, I'll take my lumps and I stand corrected, Shilo. Although I will say that by children I was really referring to like kids under 14ish. I remember back when I was in high school (think that's around 14?), if someone would have called me a 'child' and that I needed protecting from something as relatively minor as the posts at DSA I would have been pretty annoyed about that. Lord knows I certainly saw waaayyy worse back then. Anyways, thanks for sharing and didn't mean to offend any of the younger digiscrappers that may be out there.
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I wasn't offended at all, I was just pointing out there are a few of us. Or two lol. Unless there's some I don't know about. But I agree, when I was in middle school I saw much worse things than some of the threads at DSA.
No, you are called an idiot for posting the most inane crap on here. Seriously, someone call the people with the straight jackets and come and get this loon!
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I get that sarcasm is over your head, it's okay. Really, though, you should invest in a dictonary. I think your post above is pretty "inane." This blog is full of nothing but inane posts.
Have fun arguing with yourself some more. If anyone needs a padded room, it's you. Amanda could probably use some company.
No, you are called an idiot for posting the most inane crap on here. Seriously, someone call the people with the straight jackets and come and get this loon!
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I get that sarcasm is over your head, it's okay. Really, though, you should invest in a dictonary. I think your post above is pretty "inane." This blog is full of nothing but inane posts.
Have fun arguing with yourself some more. If anyone needs a padded room, it's you. Amanda could probably use some company.
May 17, 2009 4:43 PM
Bitch please! Couldn't you come up with something more original! All you type is a bunch of BS that no one gives a shit about! Right now I'm sitting here looking at your typing trying to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my ass. Really I just want you to know I like you I really do. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
Let me venture a guess...the persons having an issue with grown up references to S.E.X.....you are repressed aren't you? Perhaps devoutly religious in a freakish kind of way? It's okay. You can put your bible thumping heart to rest. You see, outside here in the big scary, fun world, sometimes it just isn't about the kids. Sometimes its about just being a woman. And real. No child need read it and be mentally destroyed by it the rest of their life - because actually ITS NOT FOR KIDS.
Oh and one more thing. I know pre-teens that are allowed to vamp about in clothes that scream S.E.X. Their parents think they are cute and sparkly and neat. To a pervert, they are meat. More danger in how you dress your children and send them out into the world than will EVER be found in a forum for grown up women.
I came to check out the latest gossip, but sadly, it looks like the DST moral majority pearl clutchers have invaded the blog. If life on the straight and narrow, prim and proper road is so fulfulling, what are you doing here? Slumming for Jesus, or just looking to make your daily quota of self-righteous handslaps?
I would have thought you could do better than the 'kids might see that' excuse when trying to censor free speech. Looks like I gave you way too much credit. If you're an uptight prude, just OWN IT. Don't hide behind the kiddie excuse-it's old and tired. Probably a lot like you.
Perhaps devoutly religious in a freakish kind of way? It's okay. You can put your bible thumping heart to rest.
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Actually I'm Muslim.
What I am really tired of is, Buy my Store ads from RoyannaF. How many damn times can this woman sale her store, has she not been selling the whole store since Christmas last year?
Oh and one more thing. I know pre-teens that are allowed to vamp about in clothes that scream S.E.X. Their parents think they are cute and sparkly and neat. To a pervert, they are meat. More danger in how you dress your children and send them out into the world than will EVER be found in a forum for grown up women.
May 17, 2009 5:01 PM
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Thanks for that. I really needed the lecture because I just realized that my teen has been dressing like a tramp.
:rolleyes:
Can we please get back to some scrap talk?
Bitch please! Couldn't you come up with something more original! All you type is a bunch of BS that no one gives a shit about! Right now I'm sitting here looking at your typing trying to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my ass. Really I just want you to know I like you I really do. You remind me of when I was young and stupid.
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What I am really tired of is, Buy my Store ads from RoyannaF. How many damn times can this woman sale her store, has she not been selling the whole store since Christmas last year?
May 17, 2009 6:02 PM
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Here's an idea: Don't click on the ads. Just scroll right on past!
I don't think much of Flergs "Location" in the DSA forums either. Is it necessary?
I don't think much of Flergs "Location" in the DSA forums either. Is it necessary?
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Have you read the Twilight books? No, it's not necessary, but it's funny as hell. Get a life and a sense of humor for fuck's sake!
I hadn't spent much time at DSA yet, (but was looking forward to checking it out and trying a new forum - hell knows we need something else from what is out there) and all the talk here on this blog made me go and see what the hype is about.
All I can say is I felt like I was in high school again listening to a bunch of immature chatter... Most of the posts just made me roll my eyes, and I thought..nice, not exactly the place to act like this. (And I am 30, so no, not an old bitty either).
I guess that is great if you like that kind of thing, but I won't be going back and hanging there. I won't be buying from those designers either, my first thought was - 'Yeah, that is very unprofessional. Period.' Even Amy's posts (which yeah, are not the worst by far)- are very unprofessional.
I can see that DSA forum turning off a LOT of people like me that are looking for a great place to hang, scrap, and find cool new stuff to buy - it did me.
And I know those girls will go on with their horny jokes and silliness just fine without me, but I do think they are turning away quite a bit of business/growing opportunities by acting so unprofessional. Flame away, but just speaking from a consumer point of view.
Hasn't it already been established that digi scrapping stores, designers and sites don't have to be professional? Look what we have in this wonderful COMMUNITY: Keely Simpson, Joedee, Ashley Olsen, Tandika, and the biggest whack job of them all: Amanda Dykan.
Not to mention all the dirty dealing, back-stabbing, and cat-fighting amongst stores and designers that the lowly, regular scrappers DON'T know about-I mean those "ladies" and their rawkin' CT's can only leak so much, ya know?
Why would places like DST or DSA be above the fray when it comes to professionalism?
Simply an observation, but as an American who has spent fair amount of time abroad, both in Japan and various countries in Europe, I'll never understand the American attitude towards S-E-X. You can buy sex toys from vending machines on the street corner in Japan and nudity is not an irregular occurrence on the broadcast networks in most of Europe. I don't get why here in America, someone shooting or otherwise maiming hundreds of people in a movie is just fine, but OMG say the word dildo and everyone runs from the building with their hands held over their ears. Damn Puritanical heritage... Just wish things would loosen up a bit here and maybe we'd have less repressed people running around wanting everyone who isn't them to burn in hell and everyone would be happier.
as the "lowly regular scrapper" and wow, so nice to know that we are held in such high esteem!
if I go to a business and everyone hates everyone, and there is backbiting going on and they treat me with respect and complete whatever transaction I requested correct and to the best of their ability, that is professionalism. I don't see the "background of their business"
at some sites, you see too much...and hey I'm just a lowly regular scrapper with money...and that is the unprofessionlism I won't support financially with my lowly regular scrapping finances!
It's truly astounding how stupid so many people really are.
I don't really get the whole 'professionalism' talking point that seem to be endemic here. Most designers I know (including myself) barely make minimum wage after everything gets factored in (amount of time spent developing a kit, store commission, time spent working on promotionals and with CTs, etc.) and I think the same is true for the stores. Point is, most of us do this because we love it and the community, not because we're making millions of dollars a year. Wal-Mart or IBM this ain't.
If a store is selling you good products at a fair price, isn't ripping you off, provides good customer service when needed, then to me that's professionalism. If a 'hub' site like DST or DSA has good tutorials, galleries, and previews of new products then that's professionalism. The forums on DSA and DST are there, IMHO, to provide a method for people (what you would call cliques) to communicate with one another. They are a sidelight, not the core 'business' and are somewhat uncontrolled intentionally so that people can talk to each other in a way that suits them. There's a lot of stuff I don't like that gets posted in forums at both places, so I avoid those particular forums, but I'd still say that both are very professional places to go.
My 2 cents, not that I expect you to care or agree.
I guess that is great if you like that kind of thing, but I won't be going back and hanging there. I won't be buying from those designers either, my first thought was - 'Yeah, that is very unprofessional. Period.' Even Amy's posts (which yeah, are not the worst by far)- are very unprofessional.
I can see that DSA forum turning off a LOT of people like me that are looking for a great place to hang, scrap, and find cool new stuff to buy - it did me.
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ITA. Well said. I am a designer and was thinking of paying for some advertising at DSA, but have decided not to for this very reason. The topics of discussion there have turned me off completely and I really don't want my name associated with a place like that. Kinda sad, really. I was hoping for a fun, new alternative to DST, but have only found another bunch of cliquey, crude, and unprofessional girls.
Talking about sex...my husband and I have tried out the Ky yours and mine....it is really quite interesting............it warms some things up and cools other bits down........
Have you every tried anything to spice things up....This is a first for me and wondering...............
They are a sidelight, not the core 'business' and are somewhat uncontrolled intentionally so that people can talk to each other in a way that suits them.
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Yes, I agree, however, when a designer is in the the thick of these forums making a fool out of themselves it affects how I feel about them and whether or not I will support them in buying their designs. I know it isn't that way in the 'real professional' world, but that is just the way it is in this wonderful digital world. And since I am the consumer and I can spend my $ wherever I want, I will spend it on those designers I respect and want to support. So I guess it is what it is.
If these designers don't care who sees them acting like idiots and being unprofessional (and yes, talking about a dildo or posting half nude pics of actors is very unprofessional to me - don't care what you do in your off time at home, etc.. but in a public forum where your customers can see, I DO think that very unprofessional - regardless of how you treat me in a business transaction) then the more power to them. They must not care about where I spend my money.
So it seems that many of you would prefer designers to remain aloof and disconnected from the community? I have a feeling if that were the case you'd bitch about that as well. Personally, one of the things I love about DSA is "real" interaction with some of the designers. What I don't want is another DST-clone where the only time the designers say anything is "Ohhh, nice layout!" or "I *heart* this". I guess maybe you feel that is more "professional" but I find it to be very, very fake. Not saying they should be rude or even necessarily participating in all of the shenanigans (some of which are admittedly a little crude, even for me), but I for one won't hold it against them because they are human and actually would like to carry on a conversation, however colorful they may be. But I guess I'm just not as judgmental and narrow-minded as some of you seem to be.
Yes, I agree, however, when a designer is in the the thick of these forums making a fool out of themselves it affects how I feel about them and whether or not I will support them in buying their designs.
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Ditto. Another one here turned off by DSA.
But I guess I'm just not as judgmental and narrow-minded as some of you seem to be.
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ita! to me, it's sort of like the difference between an actor and their role. if some actor says something that i don't agree with publicly as themselves, unless it's just something stupendously hideously bad, i don't think i'm going to be out boycotting there movie if i really want to see it otherwise. the point at which the line is crossed is different for different people i imagine, but some sex toy innuedos are nowhere near that line for me. to each their own, i suppose.
I just find the ones posting about exposing children to this kind of talk cracks me up.
I work in a school and let me tell you, many parents would be surprised at what their little darlings know and do when not under the watchful eye of mom and dad.
As for DSA and the topics, I agree, don't like it don't to go that topic. I personally don't see how a little crude humour means someone is unprofessional nor would it affect me purchasing something from them. It is labelled and the comments are not directed toward me personally as a way to hurt or belittle me.
Each to their own and why we have choices. I'm not 'sticking up' for either or.
to each their own, i suppose.
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Yep, that is the great thing about free agency - designers can say and do whatever they want, and I can spend my $ wherever I want.
Great world, ain't it?
So it seems that many of you would prefer designers to remain aloof and disconnected from the community? I have a feeling if that were the case you'd bitch about that as well. Personally, one of the things I love about DSA is "real" interaction with some of the designers. What I don't want is another DST-clone where the only time the designers say anything is "Ohhh, nice layout!" or "I *heart* this". I guess maybe you feel that is more "professional" but I find it to be very, very fake. Not saying they should be rude or even necessarily participating in all of the shenanigans (some of which are admittedly a little crude, even for me), but I for one won't hold it against them because they are human and actually would like to carry on a conversation, however colorful they may be. But I guess I'm just not as judgmental and narrow-minded as some of you seem to be.
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Seems to me like some has it in for DSA for whatever reason. They can't win for you it seems. If they have established designers in a contest you bitch, but if it was all new designers you'd bitch that the freebies weren't good. You bitch about the DST crowd that is fake and goodie goodie, now you bitch that the people at DSA are crude and loud. You people are never happy and I feel sorry for you. I for one love that I can say something at DSA and not worry if people will judge me, the staff has always been really nice to me and the freebies there rock. As a new scrapper that is what is important to me. I found this blog because of the amanda dykan thing, but I think I'll stick with racy and crude DSA over bitchy and stupid smack blogs any day.
Seems to me like some has it in for DSA for whatever reason. They can't win for you it seems. If they have established designers in a contest you bitch, but if it was all new designers you'd bitch that the freebies weren't good. You bitch about the DST crowd that is fake and goodie goodie, now you bitch that the people at DSA are crude and loud. You people are never happy and I feel sorry for you. I for one love that I can say something at DSA and not worry if people will judge me, the staff has always been really nice to me and the freebies there rock. As a new scrapper that is what is important to me. I found this blog because of the amanda dykan thing, but I think I'll stick with racy and crude DSA over bitchy and stupid smack blogs any day.
I agree. I've been at DST for as long as I've been scrapping and I've never heard from Shannon even once when I had problems there. My PMs went unanswered for weeks from their staff. I had one problem with posting a layout at DSA and I PM'd shauna and had an answer to my problem in less than 5 minutes. I don't care what people post in some threads. Don't read them if it bothers you! What I do care about is that the site is fast and if I have a problem someone cares enough to help me fix it.
Yep, that is the great thing about free agency - designers can say and do whatever they want, and I can spend my $ wherever I want.
Great world, ain't it?
Amen, sistah!
Lesson learned. Professional veneer.
Unflappable, inscrutable, courteous and distanced.
Definitely doable. Thank you.
yeah a bunch of dried up old prudes - oh - I mean prunes here! lol go get some ladies, you might like it!
yeah a bunch of dried up old prudes - oh - I mean prunes here! lol go get some ladies, you might like it!
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Yeah, sex and being horny and laughing and joking about it is SOOoo important when it comes to scrapping, LOL! I always try to work that into my layouts, so true, being in a forum where that is discussed 24/7 could be very helpful.
What, you've never scrapped some racy or sexual pic's of you & hubby? You don't know what you're missing ;)
If you think that DSA is all sex and horny 24/7 then you are indeed quite repressed.
Ditto 9:29. Really, do you all go to the forums to talk about only scrapping? Seriously ... get a life, there is more to life than only scrapping, especially when you start to make friends, you start to talk about life in general. Maybe we should ban all off-topic chatter in all forums, would that make you happy? You really are repressed.
Talking about sex...my husband and I have tried out the Ky yours and mine....it is really quite interesting............it warms some things up and cools other bits down........
Have you every tried anything to spice things up....This is a first for me and wondering...............
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LOL sorry but the way this is typed makes me think of txmusicmom
Ditto 9:29. Really, do you all go to the forums to talk about only scrapping? Seriously ... get a life, there is more to life than only scrapping, especially when you start to make friends, you start to talk about life in general. Maybe we should ban all off-topic chatter in all forums, would that make you happy? You really are repressed.
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You people just crack me up. You think you know SO much about me! lol! You think I have no sex life because I choose to go to a scrap forum to talk about scrapping, haha... go figure. Yes, I must be very, very repressed. lol..
Have you every tried anything to spice things up....This is a first for me and wondering...............
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Why don't you go post this at DSA, I am sure they would get right back to you about it! ROFLOL!
Talking about sex...my husband and I have tried out the Ky yours and mine....it is really quite interesting............it warms some things up and cools other bits down........
Have you every tried anything to spice things up....This is a first for me and wondering...............
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LOL sorry but the way this is typed makes me think of txmusicmom
May 18, 2009 10:00 AM
ROFLLLLLLLLLL!!!
Well miss 10:19, give Mr. Blowup Doll a kiss for me ... sounds like you definitely AIN'T gettin' any! lol
Really, do you all go to the forums to talk about only scrapping?
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I've never been to DSA and don't have any intentions of going there for any reason. These are just my thoughts as an average customer.
I am not a forum regular anywhere and my normal behavior in any forum situtation is to ask a question specifically about the main topic of the website itself. I wouldn't be there for any other reason. I realize that lots of people do like to hang out in forums and have an online "home" so-to-speak, but there are many, like me, that don't. While it happens all the time, it irks me when I use a forum search function and get sent into the wrong area for an answer to my question but find something completely unrelated. If I had a scrapbook question and decided to search on a forum somewhere and was lead right to the middle of some sexual converstion, I'd get a little pissed off. I would certainly leave and most likely never come back.
I use web searches and search functions on forums quite often to get specific answers to questions I have. I rarely post or even register if I can find my answer without doing so.
If you're going to have an area like that where the general public could wander in and see offensive conversations going on, you've probably lost that person as a customer.
I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just my take on the whole sex talk situation being discussed, As a potential customer and constant google-searcher. Creating forum threads like that in a more private area, such as making the viewer click a "yes, proceed" link or making people request permission for entrance before hand, would be good damage control.
I am NOT a prude by any means. I treat online stores and forums as I would any other business. If I walked into any brick-and-morter store and wanted to ask a question but had to listen to something inappropriate before getting my questions answered, I'd walk right back out the door.
I don't believe (and I could be wrong) that you'd ever find any company that would let their employees talk about anything offensive on that company's open public web forum.
You think I have no sex life because I choose to go to a scrap forum to talk about scrapping, haha... go figure. Yes, I must be very, very repressed. lol..
May 18, 2009 10:19 AM
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I agree the ones who are repressed are the ones who feel the need to brag and talk about it publically. Those of us who get it good have no need for further discussion.
I agree the ones who are repressed are the ones who feel the need to brag and talk about it publically. Those of us who get it good have no need for further discussion.
May 18, 2009 2:25 PM
weird...I've never found that to be true...if I'm not getting it...I'm not talking much about it...but if I'm getting it good it's on my mind and out of my mouth a lot more...must be one of those things that defy armchair psychology...
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