Here is some new space for you to discuss DSA, DST, MSA or anything else you want to debate about.
FYI - I do see your emails, but as a general rule I will not respond to them. Call me paranoid or whatever, but y'all can be ruthless. Feel free to send me alerts as I check my email more often than the blog, I will see them. So anyway, thanks for the reminder, I have been meaning to get a new post up just for you.
For the person looking for the dirt on Amanda, I don't have time to rehash 3+weeks worth of drama for you, feel free to read the blog archives, it unfolded here. You have the link, spend your time looking for the information you are requesting.
If you are in the US, enjoy the long weekend, hopefully nice weather has arrived in your part of the world.
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Look...Queen Brat thinks she's Queen of the scrapbooking world....as if NO ONE ELSE has piracy issues. Yea...I am so sure this will work!
Hey folks,
I'm going to be making some changes due to all of the piracy of my kits. I will no longer be offering "tagger" size kits in any of my stores and I am retiring a large group of kits that have been pirated. And since so many people have them already illegally, I am going to give you the kits so that you are free to use them without problems. I do hope you enjoy them.
I will continue releasing new kits but they will only come in scrapper size. At the present time they will only be available in my store as it will take time to get them uploaded to my other stores. Also, you will notice that there is a price difference in what you have been paying for the tagger kits. This is due to the fact that it takes more of my time in uploading. I'm sorry about this for those of you that legally purchased your tagger items, but you can blame the group of pirates that are on the net.
And now for the kits. I apologize that there are no previews but I just don't feel like posting them. Take what you want and have fun using them. All I ask is that you be copyright aware and at least give the tube artist the credit they deserve.
You can snag the kits on my scrap blog here:
http://bitsnpiecesofqbd.blogspot.com/
She is one of the biggest pirates on the net. She likes to recieve but hates when others take her stuff. She is in a ton of share groups.
Turd. I mean third.
Queen Brat is a BIG pirate herself, I guess she's just fallen out with her 'mates'. Shame. Not. How d'ya like THAT medicine QB LOL
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Wow! Trashy blog with Christian Music? Should have figured it was a trashy tagger's blog.
man are you guys trying to stir the pot or what. Please don't summon the taggers.
man are you guys trying to stir the pot or what. Please don't summon the taggers.
May 21, 2009 12:35 PM
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This is a little tiring. Taggers can be scrappers too.
We don't care!
I hate taggers. Bottom rung.
They don't post on DST. Why are we discussing them here?
I hate everyone who isn't a white, digital SCRAPBOOKER, living in a house with a white picket fence and 2 kids and a dog. Fuckers should get a life.
You know what's sad? When a scrap designer winds up only doing tagger stuff. I used to love Tammy Kat's stuff, then she was doing both reg & tagger size, and now only tagger size (last i looked anyway). boo =(
the QB thing, that is so stupid. what a dumbass. that just means no $ at all from those.
I hate taggers. Bottom rung.
They don't post on DST. Why are we discussing them here?
May 21, 2009 4:18 PM
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How do you know? Are you personally acquainted with everyone who posts at DST? I don't think so.
ok to be nosey went over to Queen Brat's blog..........ummm, yeh not one I'll be nosey about again for sure, lol.
Not seeing why people would want to pirate her stuff.
I hate taggers. Bottom rung.
They don't post on DST. Why are we discussing them here?
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You know it's this kind of snooty attitude that I really don't understand. How do you know your statement is fact? That is just your opinion.
Taggers go away.
What do you all think about the daily digi?
ok to be nosey went over to Queen Brat's blog..........ummm, yeh not one I'll be nosey about again for sure, lol.
Not seeing why people would want to pirate her stuff.
May 21, 2009 6:50 PM
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She has or did have a lot of tutorial writers using her kits. Makes it easier to do the tuts, if you have the scrap kit. :)
What do you all think about the daily digi?
May 21, 2009 7:16 PM
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Not impressed one bit. Bought it the first month & that was enough for me.
Almost all of the SYTYCD contest kits are up for this week...anyone want to share their predictions as to who will be "going home" this week?
What do you all think about the daily digi?
May 21, 2009 7:16 PM
I don't. It's very meh.
on another topic, anyone checked out the gold member upcoming designers at DST? they FINALLY updated the frigging thing ... no one on this year's list really appeals to me at all. Don't think I'll be renewing.
What do you all think about the daily digi?
May 21, 2009 7:16 PM
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What the heck is the daily digi?
on another topic, anyone checked out the gold member upcoming designers at DST? they FINALLY updated the frigging thing ... no one on this year's list really appeals to me at all. Don't think I'll be renewing.
May 21, 2009 9:17 PM
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I felt like that for last year's lot and this lot doesn't appeal to me either. Only one I'm interested in is Holly and but I wish she would do more of earlier stuff
I think I"m disappointed with most of the kits this week at SYTYCD. There are only four more to come and if I see another Octopus's Garden, I'm going to hurl!
I was disappointed with the Blackbird kit, that could have had so much potential. The Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds kits have all been interesting. I loved that someone tackled Eleanor Rigby, I haven't decided on the kit yet.
Going forward? Probably all the studio girls and Faith, AnnaBV, the two Amys, not sure about the others.
I have a feeling Maelia and Seni will make it too, in addition to the ones 9:38 said.
Yes Maela definitely, I thought her kit was great. Flergs really did a good job I thought too. I'll be using it to scrap some concert pic's.
I like:
JadyDay
Charlize Creations
AnnaBV
Amy Sumrall
Faith True
Amy Stoffel
My 2 favs (this week) are Flergs and Maelia, tho...
Both are just awesome.
Going forward? Probably all the studio girls and Faith, AnnaBV, the two Amys, not sure about the others.
May 21, 2009 9:38 PM
I have a feeling Maelia and Seni will make it too, in addition to the ones 9:38 said.
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All the studio girls? Really? Ziska? Her kit is boring. Seni? Her kit is 100% CU.
But they probably go forward because they have to pick 20 people for the next round and a lot of kits suck.
All the studio girls? Really? Ziska? Her kit is boring.
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I never said I liked it, did I? But I know how the game works. IMHO, Ziska should never have got past round 1, but she did, why? Because she's a Studio girl.
IMHO, Ziska shouldn't be selling at SBG anyway...
IMHO, Ziska shouldn't be selling at SBG anyway...
May 21, 2009 11:11 PM
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SBG has been going downhill for over a year now.
These are my predictions for the SYTYCD contest:
Faith
Amy Stoffel
Brandy
Lyndsay Riches
Flergs
Maelia
Amy Sumrall
Seni
Megan Turnidge
Tracie Stroud
mle card
anna bv
jadyday
stephanie ogren
mel wilson
redju
jen yurko
studio mgl
fe
studio Ziska
I really only like 3-4 of them, though. Some just seemed to phone it in this week. Aren't they supposed to step it up a notch?
**Please don't tell me to go away, I am not a tagger, and I have a right to my opinion too**
I work in a store that sells tagger kits, so obviously they are 'taggers'. I am a regular designer, I suppose since I create full size kits. And, well, I have met some of the nicest people, who happen to be taggers. Have you ever thought that maybe they are so nasty here because of what you type here? Yes you have the right to say what you wish, but come on. If you call a stranger fat, and she reacts poorly, is should she be told to go away? I don't think so. Do you realize how many taggers buy and create full size kits? Who may very well support you? And don't give me this stuff about taggers and piracy, because many regular designers also pirate. They steal money from charity kits, get into backdoors, like within the dst and many other stores. Look at amanda. Should they judge you because of her actions? I don't think you'd want that any more then they would want to be summed up into one category.
To each his (her) own, obviously, but Ziska is better than a whole bunch of well-loved designers out there, certainly better than me (not saying I'm well-loved, just saying how much I love her work). She's an illustrator whiz who'll draw just about anything from scratch, it's a real pleasure for me to see her vectors. I wish some of you would give her a chance and browsed her store, she might surprise you!
Hey Jester! I believe you are Mlg, aren't you? Can you please tell Maya to change her psychedelic store background! I don't shop there anymore because it gives me headaches.
on another topic, anyone checked out the gold member upcoming designers at DST? they FINALLY updated the frigging thing ... no one on this year's list really appeals to me at all. Don't think I'll be renewing.
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ITA. Seems like the same people over and over. Seriously thinking about not renewing either.
To each his (her) own, obviously, but Ziska is better than a whole bunch of well-loved designers out there, certainly better than me (not saying I'm well-loved, just saying how much I love her work). She's an illustrator whiz who'll draw just about anything from scratch, it's a real pleasure for me to see her vectors. I wish some of you would give her a chance and browsed her store, she might surprise you!
May 21, 2009 11:49 PM
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Her kits for the SYTYCD have not been all that great. They have not made me want to go and check out her store. I have discovered some new designers through that contest. I did check Ziska's SBG store and it's nice, but it doesn't stand out from all the other kits that are very similar. If she's an illustrator wiz, she should do more of that kind of thing, stand out from the crowd, KWIM?
By the way, I think it's great that you've come to stand up for her.
Scrap Kitten I definitely expect to get cut.
I wasn't impressed with any of the octopus ones - and I usually love Maelia's stuff so I was disappointed there.
Madame Wing was pretty blah.
twoboyz00 has come a long way from her start, but still not *there*.
sogren, scrapshana, Abish Allen, sweet digi scraps - all I think shouldn't make the cut this week.
My favs are Flergs & Wild Dandelions. I do like Seni's kit, but my first thought when I saw the preview was 'haven't I seen that kit somewhere else already?' and the comment here about it being 100% CU makes sense then, and I probably do have all those things in various places in my stash already.
I forgot Amy Sumrall! She's def in my top three this week!
wv= choetr
I know I've heard it somewhere before but can't remember what it means. Orgasmo maybe?
sogren, scrapshana, Abish Allen, sweet digi scraps - all I think shouldn't make the cut this week.
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Do you mean shouldn't get cut, or shouldn't get into the next round? I don't think they should get in either.
make the cut: Informal
to avoid elimination, as in a golf tournament
from http://www.yourdictionary.com/short-cut near the bottom
You didn't like Ziska's entry, really? wow ... I just downloaded it and I think it's beautiful. Just because it's not loaded up with tons of elements doesn't make it bad. The colour choice and the papers are really nice. Definitely one of my fav's this week. And I don't see SBG going downhill, actually I think it's gotten better in the last year. Lots of great new designers. I spend at least 3x more money there than any other store.
I love redjus kit, she really stepped it up this week. So did Faith and Flergs. mgl's is awesome, very different.
^_^ I guess I'm famous!
Thank's to all who like my design, I know I'm a bit boring, since I try to focus only on things I like to scrap pages with.
And yes, if you asked me one year ago I never would have pictured me selling at SBG. I'm still constantly surprised Maya picked me.
But let me guess something:
- you applied at SBG too, and got rejected?
- you was eleminated at SYTYCD?
- I recently let you go from my CT?
No matter what, I can't please everyone, so I guess I keep up with what I'm doing, and you focus on the designs you like, and vote them during the popularity vote!
I hope I'm allowed no to continue to hide under my rock and focus on designing things I like. If you want to help me improve there is a challenge post at my blog, post there and I try to work with your suggestions.
But let me guess something:
- you applied at SBG too, and got rejected?
- you was eleminated at SYTYCD?
- I recently let you go from my CT?People can have an opinion that doesn't revolve around being rejected in some fashion. It can be that they just don't like your products. The snarky attitude just makes you look bad.
Come on seriously. You smack someone and you they can't defend themselves? Ziska - your designs are lovely, which I'm Maya agreed with since she asked you to sell at SBG. You have a great attitude. Don't worry about what these losers say.
I really like Franziska's stuff, it's original and not just a bunch of redecorated CU like many of the so called "famous designers" you see around.
A for effort and creativity, I'm sure a store like Scrapbook Graphics didn't hire her for the looks either.
I don't find Franziska's comments snarky at all. She is merely coming back with a few rhetorical questions and comments.
Her designs are not for everyone and I appreciate that she keeps true to herself. I personally love her papers, the texture is amazing. Yet I am not a Lori Daivson fan with all the fantasy stuff. I won't cut on her designs as I don't feel it's fair, just not my cup of tea.
I understand it's a smack blog and that's what it is here for. I'm not attempting to stand on a soapbox nor am I going to call those who said Franziska's designs were 'boring' names, that's not me.
What I will say is this contest has shown me some new faces that I have never heard of before and will definitely be following. Franziska will be one of them as I have always loved her designs, but again that's me.
Yes her comment was snarky. Please there is much better out there then Ziska. People are going to see your comment then you can watch your sales drop honey. No I am none of the above in the smart ass list that you posted. I am a customer that appreciates people to treat others as equals and not someone that thinks they are better then another.
You didn't like Ziska's entry, really? wow ... I just downloaded it and I think it's beautiful. Just because it's not loaded up with tons of elements doesn't make it bad. The colour choice and the papers are really nice. Definitely one of my fav's this week. And I don't see SBG going downhill, actually I think it's gotten better in the last year. Lots of great new designers. I spend at least 3x more money there than any other store.
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I agree. I just went to check out Ziska's kit after reading here, and honestly I think it's one of the better kits this week. I like the worn papers and monochromatic color scheme and could see myself using this kit.
And SBG has added some terrific designers this year. You think they're going downhill? Really? Have you checked out the new designers? They just added Peta Boardman, who is one of my favorite designers. Coralie, Line Designs, Miss Vivi, SussieM are all pretty wonderful IMO. If that's going 'downhill', then please tell me what store you think has a better group of designers....
One thing people should take into account, is that what may come across as 'snarky' really isn't intended that way. Language barriers can cause misintrepretation of the written word when translated. Not defending her comments, but I work in a school with a lot of English as a second language and I know that sometimes what's written on paper does come across completely different from how it was meant.
I do have to say that my favourite kit from SYTYCD is JadyDay Studios, she has been a favourite of mine each round thus far.
I'm the poster from 10:00 am above and I just want to clarify: I think there are a lot of terrific stores out there, SBG is just one of them.
7:42/9:50 you're just pissed that she called you out...
7:42/9:50 you're just pissed that she called you out...
May 22, 2009 10:41 AM I didn't even make any of the original comments, but thanks for playing.
One more time, I'm sorry I sounded snarky to you, thats one of the causes, I usually don't post at forums, blogs etc. english is not my first language. I was just wondering if me recently let go some CT members has something to do with my name popping up here?
And I for myselfe consider myselfe not under the top designers, I have my personal favorites at SYTYCD too, I download their kits and leave them comments, thats what it is for, at least I thought.
And no, I have no idea for what a smack blog is for.
I love playing. I WIN!
Anonymous said...
7:42/9:50 you're just pissed that she called you out...
May 22, 2009 10:41 AM
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Called me out? On what? I am not even a designer you stupid ass. So think again before you run your fat mouth. Go fill it with another Jelly doughnut that will keep you busy for a whole 2 seconds.
May 22, 2009 1:19 PM
plus there is this Anonymous part lol
For what it is worth...or not...here are my top ten designers to move forward to the next round:
(In no particular order)
1 FE
2 Ziska
3 MGL
4 Valerie N.
5 Flergs
6 Redju
7 Tracie Stroud
8 Seni
9 lynz riches
10 MLE
These are the kits that I would be most likely to scrap with. Not everything in the kit, but for sure some of the elements or papers.
Just my opinion.
20 designers are going to the next round and then, the public will vote for the winner (Flergs or Maelia).
hey on another note, anyone know what happened to Studio Mistique at SBG? I wanted to buy a kit I saw there earlier in the week and now her entire studio is gone???? :(
Scrapsmack tourist here : what's tagger?why do you dislike them?
Many thanks
Here are a few of the designers I think will make it to the next round of SYTYCD...
Chris Geiser
Ziska
MGL
Flergs
Faith True
Valerie N
Redju
Jadyday
Tracie Stroud
Amy Sumrall
Lindsay Riches
Brandy Designs
Amy Stoffel
what ever happened with the SUTYCS contest? Did they ever pick a winner?
Re: Mistique @ Scrapbookgraphics, I too was wondering where she went and so quickly? I was looking thru some stuff yesterday and was planning to buy a few QP's. Today they're all gone. Whats up with that, anyone know? I think she was listed as intern only, maybe got canned by Maya?
hey on another note, anyone know what happened to Studio Mistique at SBG? I wanted to buy a kit I saw there earlier in the week and now her entire studio is gone???? :(
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I am shocked. I wanted to get her kit Glorious Spring, sometime this weekend. Hit SBG every morning checking out the deals & she was there this morning. :( It sure happened quick...whatever it was. :(
what ever happened with the SUTYCS contest? Did they ever pick a winner?
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Yes, it should come as no surprise.
http://sutucs.blogspot.com/
Regarding the SUTUC contest the second place winner is an After5 creative team member. How fixed is that?
hey on another note, anyone know what happened to Studio Mistique at SBG? I wanted to buy a kit I saw there earlier in the week and now her entire studio is gone???? :(
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I am shocked. I wanted to get her kit Glorious Spring, sometime this weekend. Hit SBG every morning checking out the deals & she was there this morning. :( It sure happened quick...whatever it was. :(
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That really sucks! she had a new kit out, not sure if it was Glorious Spring, it kinda reminded me of Lori Davison's style a little ... was planning to pick it up this w/e, it was a real stunner.
Regarding the SUTUC contest the second place winner is an After5 creative team member. How fixed is that?
May 22, 2009 6:07 PM
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The whole thing seem fixed to me. If I had known so many professional CT members would be joining, I wouldn't have bothered wasting my time.
This contest should have been called the CT SUTUCS contest.
Learned a valuable lesson. Will be saving a lot of money now.
on another topic, anyone checked out the gold member upcoming designers at DST? they FINALLY updated the frigging thing ... no one on this year's list really appeals to me at all. Don't think I'll be renewing.
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Yeah, and it looks like Bren Boone went MIA (again) and Shannon is trying to hunt her down. Bren is up for the June Kit and isn't answering Shannon's emails.
Shame, cause I really like Bren's designs. But that chick is consistent in being inconsistent.
both those girls totally deserved to win! Their pages were AMAZING. And Sophie has always been super fab. She didn't get 2nd *b/c* she's a CT member. She's a CT member cause she's flippin awesome.
But let me guess something:
- you applied at SBG too, and got rejected?
- you was eleminated at SYTYCD?
- I recently let you go from my CT?
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Well, wow Ziska, just for that, I'm never going to shop with you. What kind of attitude is that?
For your information, I was never on your CT so couldn't be let go, I'm not a designer so I never applied to SBG nor the SYTYCD contest.
Because I don't like your stuff, I'm automatically jealous. Way to on the ego.
Come on seriously. You smack someone and you they can't defend themselves? Ziska - your designs are lovely, which I'm Maya agreed with since she asked you to sell at SBG. You have a great attitude. Don't worry about what these losers say.
May 22, 2009 8:03 AM
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Saying someone's kit is boring is hardly a smack. The only losers I see are the ones who are defending her, not including Jester. Most of you have done way more smacking than the original posters.
hey on another note, anyone know what happened to Studio Mistique at SBG? I wanted to buy a kit I saw there earlier in the week and now her entire studio is gone???? :(
May 22, 2009 3:36 PM
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I can't begin to count the number of designers that have come and gone in no time flat over at SBG. Something is seriously wrong over there.
And to answer the downhill comment; yes, I have checked the new designers over there. It's all the same, nothing stands out from the rest of the herd. I can get those kind of kits anywhere
After 5
Oscraps
Catscrap
Shabby Pickle
Scrap Orchard
Scrap Artist
etc.
I don't know buy from any of those places either though. I'm not saying it's bad, but it doesn't stand out. I used to love shopping at SBG in the early days, but now, it's just the same old same old.
One thing people should take into account, is that what may come across as 'snarky' really isn't intended that way. Language barriers can cause misintrepretation of the written word when translated.
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I agree with this comment but in this case, I just don't think it's valid. Saying that those people who didn't like her designs are either jealous and failed designers or dropped CT members is snarky, no what matter what the language.
I find the whole English is not my first language excuse very convenient. Sarcasm is universal.
Boy oh boy, designers can't win. They give to many freebies away, they don't give enough away. And then when they do....you come here and bitch. Why don't you leave these comments at the forum? Oh...wait...then your ugly asses will show and people can judge your shit, your layouts, your designs. My friends love coming here, my non-scrapbooking friends, and reading this shit. You all sound like a bunch of back stabbing bitches. Do you have friends? Do you have a family? Good Lord, you all find enough time to bitch and moan.
Boy oh boy, designers can't win. They give to many freebies away, they don't give enough away. And then when they do....you come here and bitch. Why don't you leave these comments at the forum? Oh...wait...then your ugly asses will show and people can judge your shit, your layouts, your designs. My friends love coming here, my non-scrapbooking friends, and reading this shit. You all sound like a bunch of back stabbing bitches. Do you have friends? Do you have a family? Good Lord, you all find enough time to bitch and moan.
May 22, 2009 7:58 PM
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I just bet that those same friends are laughing at you behind your back and you know why? Because you are just the same.
Thanks for the hand slap. If you disapprove so much, don't post, it makes you more believable.
And to answer the downhill comment; yes, I have checked the new designers over there. It's all the same, nothing stands out from the rest of the herd. I can get those kind of kits anywhere
After 5
Oscraps
Catscrap
Shabby Pickle
Scrap Orchard
Scrap Artist
etc.
I don't know buy from any of those places either though. I'm not saying it's bad, but it doesn't stand out. I used to love shopping at SBG in the early days, but now, it's just the same old same old.
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Not trying to be an ass, but where do you shop then? Do you have something you'd like to share with the rest of the class?
^^^
I was going to ask the same exact thing.
Nah...they dont laugh behind my back...I come here to make fun of you people too.....I am not joing in on the yammering...I am poking fun on the people who do.
Well, wow Ziska, just for that, I'm never going to shop with you. What kind of attitude is that?
For your information, I was never on your CT so couldn't be let go, I'm not a designer so I never applied to SBG nor the SYTYCD contest.
Because I don't like your stuff, I'm automatically jealous. Way to on the ego.
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This comment makes me laugh...cause if this person truly is the person who originally posted about not liking Ziska's stuff, then she wouldn't be buying from her anyway now would she? So, let's get this straight, Ziska just lost a customer who hated her products???? LOL!
I feel sorry for Ziska (who hardly speaks English)for trying to come here to defend herself. And for what reason was she attacked in the first place? Simply because somebody somewhere guessed that she might do well in the SYTYCD contest. That's the only reason her name was even brought up.
I don't know buy from any of those places either though. I'm not saying it's bad, but it doesn't stand out. I used to love shopping at SBG in the early days, but now, it's just the same old same old
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Wait a second - the person that I was responding to said SBG was going 'downhill'. To me that's saying they're bad.
But, now (if you're the same person), you're saying they're not bad, they just don't stand out from Shabby Pickle, A5, Catscraps, etc.
Those are two completely different statements to me.
And to answer the downhill comment; yes, I have checked the new designers over there. It's all the same, nothing stands out from the rest of the herd. I can get those kind of kits anywhere
After 5
Oscraps
Catscrap
Shabby Pickle
Scrap Orchard
Scrap Artist
etc.
I don't know buy from any of those places either though. I'm not saying it's bad, but it doesn't stand out. I used to love shopping at SBG in the early days, but now, it's just the same old same old.
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So just where do you buy from then? Please name the stores that you think are better than the ones you've named.
What do you all think about the daily digi?
>->->
I hardly think about it at all. It started out ok, but has gone downhill quickly. The owner starts out with a big "I was spending too much time on the computer, so I'm starting this blog to help people spend more time with their families" bit, but now it's a store, and a blog, and huge rip off for their digi files. Just another scam to make money.
What do you all think about the daily digi?
>->->
I hardly think about it at all. It started out ok, but has gone downhill quickly. The owner starts out with a big "I was spending too much time on the computer, so I'm starting this blog to help people spend more time with their families" bit, but now it's a store, and a blog, and huge rip off for their digi files. Just another scam to make money.
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I think there's some good tutorials and content there the few times I've looked. Never bought the digi-files so I have no opinion about them. I think it's a shame that it has a store...I was hoping it would stay a neutral site.
I remember when 'We Are Storytellers' had the whole campaign leading up to their opening...I honestly thought it wasn't going to be a commercial site. I thought it was going to be something special like a community focused on storytelling, journaling, family history, heritage scrapping - you know...leaving a legacy. Silly me!
But, certainly this blog hasn't left Janet with MORE time to spend with her family. Creating an interesting blog entry EVERY day is a lot of work - and these aren't just thrown together entries. So, I'd say her original goal has not been met...that is if you are naive enough to think her real intent was to spend time with her family. LOL!
Nah...they dont laugh behind my back...I come here to make fun of you people too.....I am not joing in on the yammering...I am poking fun on the people who do.
May 22, 2009 8:52 PM
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We get a snicker or two off of you too, hun.
that is if you are naive enough to think her real intent was to spend time with her family. LOL!
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I don't believe that for a second. I hear that she's a nightmare to work with and has a big head on top of it. No Janet, your site is not the be all end all of digiland, not even close actually.
I disagree about the Daily Digi...I really like the site and the posts are usually really creative and cool. I also was glad to see that Janet would be selling her template grab bags as that was something I purchased almost every month before she left SBG. I also like the digi files and think they are a good buy. I loved the kit by Kristin C. Barrow and the kit put together by the Digi Darers and it was dirt cheap for that many full kits.
I can only speak for myself but I don't see the store as a "sell out" and instead as just another part of the site you can take advantage of if you want to and stay away from if you don't. Even the post about the sponsors who have things in the Digi Files each month are cool and don't come across as pure advertising and instead as a means to get to better know a lot of designers around the community.
Anyway, I am not affiliated with the site at all but just don't have the complaints about it that many of you do. To each their own I guess!
don't believe all you hear. Janet is actually very very sweet. I've never had an issue with her. And she is quite modest too. Pretty much just like everyone else. So don't slag her unless you know her.
You're an idiot if you think you "know" her. You know the public face-the persona. The whole designers being friendly thing is a marketing tool. Looks like you're just one of the sheeples who fell for it. baaa!
So, the final 20 have been announced in SYTYCD. No surprises there...
I personally think the right folks moved on. There were some really blah kits and those that moved on had the originality and quality you would expect from a contest entry IMHO. The one that really impressed me though was MGL's (Jester) because she took a big risk with her theme and came out with a fun and very different kit. I also think that Flerg's was fun and high energy and is something I will definitely use. I have liked a lot of their stuff in the past and the contest kits were another example of sound design...
Faith True's kit isn't my style but I thought it was still one of the best and it was done well. I don't enjoy the whole fantasy craze either so it would be hard for me to use but it was a fun and original design.
I guess i don't get why anyone would invest time in disliking their kits and finding fault with them because of who they are and where they sell.
Just my 2 cents.....
I'm surprised Jen Yurko and Fe didn't make it to round 4.
I hadn't heard anything about the DailyDigi so I'm glad to know that Janet is still selling template grab bags. I haven't scrapped since early last fall so I need to get busy.
Now if I could just remember the steps in using a template.
There is a page on the Daily Digi http://thedailydigi.com/layeredtemplates/ that points to good places to learn how to use templates. Jen Caputo's tutorial is listed and she also has a bunch of nice freebie templates to get you started if you are new to using them.
I started using them way back when Jen was at Plain Digital Wrapper when Holly owned it and I love them for a quick start to a finished page :-) HTH!
daily digi - i read about it when it first started and just reading that blurb about she's starting this b/c she's spending too much time on the computer...let's just say it didn't inspire too much confidence that she would be successful at doing anything else, either. so i never went back. but i have no idea who she is anyway.
SYTYCD - I'm pretty pleased with the list. and praying they don't all choose the same holidays.
it's May so I'm really hoping no Christmas kits.
There were a few of the top 20 that I didn't like, but that's more my taste than if the kit was well done. Of the top 20 there were only 11 that I downloaded and of the whole 40 only 12.
I think any holiday will be fine, as long as the kit is well-done and not totally predictable or full of done-to-death stuff.
It's pretty hard to be really original about a holiday kit.
OMGODDDDDDD...I've been away from the digi community for a few months, and just wasted half my day catching up on the Amanda Dykan saga.
It all started because I saw the post at DST entitled "Considering the Lilyanne thread I wonder...". Having been totally out of the loop, I started doing searches and visted sites I never new existed (when did that new forum open?).
Wow! What a whack job Amanda is (but I knew that from the mad-scrapper-shooting a bullet through her front door days). That woman is a crazy sociopath!
Anyway, sorry to bring up old news, but this was all new to me.
Kudos to you bloggers who bring crap like this out in the open.
About the SYTYCD, I wish the designers won't use any or at least a minimum of CU in their kits. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against CU when used well, but this a DESIGN contest, not a repackaging contest. Some of the designers who went forward, just repacked CU stuff. I don't call that designing.
some of you make way too big a deal of the CU thing. There are lots of great designers who use CU items. If it's a kit that I like and can use and if I don't already have something too much like it, I'll buy it.
so you think you can repackage? nice ring to it,
we give you 12 CU products and you repackage them to sell?
I don't care if designers add CU stuff to their kits in their shops, but they have no place in a DESIGNING contest.
so you think you can repackage? nice ring to it,
we give you 12 CU products and you repackage them to sell?
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I know your being sarcastic, but actually that sounds like a fun contest! And I bet the resulting kits would be better than you expect.
Anyway, I am not affiliated with the site at all but just don't have the complaints about it that many of you do. To each their own I guess!
Bla bla bla. Hi Janet!
so you think you can repackage? nice ring to it,
we give you 12 CU products and you repackage them to sell?
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I know your being sarcastic, but actually that sounds like a fun contest! And I bet the resulting kits would be better than you expect.
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I was trying to be snarky, but I read your comment and think it would be fun and probably some great kits!
Anyway, I am not affiliated with the site at all but just don't have the complaints about it that many of you do. To each their own I guess!
Bla bla bla. Hi Janet!
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No....not Janet. I truly do like the Daily Digi shop and all and don't see why you would care it has a shop...it's not like there are ads all over so it should be easy for you to keep out of the shop and still enjoy the blog or not...whatever blows your skirt up.
I don't care if designers add CU stuff to their kits in their shops, but they have no place in a DESIGNING contest.
May 24, 2009 9:48 AM
blah, blah, blah. If you have a problem with the contest, just stay away. There are many out there who don't give a crap if CU is used in a contest, in a store, in a freebie or whatever else you want to bitch and moan about.
If you think it's really THAT important for things to be CU free, why don't you do something about it, and start a contest or store or something that will only allow CU free stuff. Knock yourself out.
blah, blah, blah. If you have a problem with the contest, just stay away. There are many out there who don't give a crap if CU is used in a contest, in a store, in a freebie or whatever else you want to bitch and moan about.
If you think it's really THAT important for things to be CU free, why don't you do something about it, and start a contest or store or something that will only allow CU free stuff. Knock yourself out.
May 24, 2009 12:17 PM
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Think what you want but designers who don't use CU in their kits sell WAY more than the average "CU repackager so-called designer". And I know how? Because I'm a store owner ;) So saying that people don't give a shit if designers use CU is not true.
Any designer who's ever used a brush, shape or style they didn't create, a texture the did not photograph or scan (or even if they did), a shape set they didn't make...if they didn't create every item used in their kit by themselves, they are not truly designing anything. My 10-year-old can photograph a concrete wall and turn it into a background paper.
Photographing something and then extracting isn't designing, either, it's extracting. Extracting is not hard, it's just time-consuming.
The whole "you're not a designer if you use CU items" is bullshit because unless you paint every single pixel of your designs with your own hand on a blank canvas, you're using some type of CU item.
a large percentage of The items that are being sold for CU aren't being "designed" either. Again, photgraphing and extracting a flower isn't designing, it's extracting.
Someone brought it up before here that someone who may be very talented at taking items and coordinating them into a kit may not possess great extraction or other design skills. On the other side, someone may be very talented at extracting things or creating great textures or templates but may not have an eye for putting those things together into a good, usable kit. There's nothing wrong with either and there's room for both.
If a designer uses a lot of cu product and puts out fabulous kits with those products and has a large customer base, what's wrong with that?
What about web designers? Do you think those people who create web templates create all the images they use by hand? No, they purchase items that can be used in their template designs. I guess they're not really designing, either.
You all need to get over the the whole CU argument..it doesn't hold any water and is borderline hypocritical.
The whole "you're not a designer if you use CU items" is bullshit because unless you paint every single pixel of your designs with your own hand on a blank canvas, you're using some type of CU item.I think you're missing the point by a wide margin. 'CU items' are items that you can purchase that have a license to resell them.
Taking a picture of a flower YOURSELF and extracting it YOURSELF is NOT using a CU item.
And just b/c your son can make a b/g paper doesn't mean he didn't do the work. It just means it's easy to do.
I must be totally clueless about CU. I mean there are a few things that I see used over and over again across kits. But for the most part I don't know if it is a CU item because I'm not a designer and don't follow those new releases closely. I'm just looking for kits to scrap with. If I like it, I buy it.
And I know how? Because I'm a store owner ;) So saying that people don't give a shit if designers use CU is not true.
May 24, 2009 1:03 PM
Really? Great, then you can send us over to your CU-free store and we'll all be happy to scoop up all that superior CU-free stuff ;)
Think what you want but designers who don't use CU in their kits sell WAY more than the average "CU repackager so-called designer". And I know how? Because I'm a store owner ;) So saying that people don't give a shit if designers use CU is not true.
May 24, 2009 1:03 PM
Do you have stats? and from what source? It would need to be more diverse than just from your "store" to be believable ;)
How does the average scrapper know if the item is CU or not? I can see a designer or store owner knowing because they are probably keeping an eye out for tools they can use. But the average scrapper that just buys kits?
And now there's so much out there that the same stuff isn't being used again and again like it was a couple years ago. Then it was easy to tell.
How does the average scrapper know if the item is CU or not? I can see a designer or store owner knowing because they are probably keeping an eye out for tools they can use. But the average scrapper that just buys kits?
And now there's so much out there that the same stuff isn't being used again and again like it was a couple years ago. Then it was easy to tell.
May 24, 2009 2:55 PM
You're right-most average scrappers don't know or even care. We're looking for stuff that we like. We just want to scrap with it. And no one that we share our books and pages with gives the slightest bit of a crap about how much CU was involved.
stupid CU argument again. Seriously what difference does it make? Either you can pull a kit together or not. You'll know if the money is rolling in or not. I look for a great colour scheme, theme, well-cordinated papers and pieces, alpha, and word-art. I could care less if the designer made the stuff themselves or but someone else's extractions.
Just because they create everything themselves (no CU in their kit) doesn't mean that they can make a decent kit!
Word. ITA. Amen.
All my family is interested in is seeing their pictures in an album & seeing our life documented.
To Anonymous May 24, 2009 1:22 PM; I completely agree. I also agree that an entire kit should not be completely re-colored CU products. I think possibly, the CU Argument or perhaps the issue people have with CU is more along the lines of a Designer being uncreative. I think there are plenty of Designers out there who use CU products and use them well, change them (besides re-coloring) and makes them their own creation. I can see how many would be turned off by a kit with nothing but the same run-of-the-mill CU products just being re-colored. But I don't feel it's a remotely valid argument to say someone is not a good Designer because they use some CU products.
I certainly wouldn't claim a fantastic Interior Designer wasn't a real Interior Designer because they didn't make all their own fabric or furniture.
ITA, and I don't use CU, only because I like to challenge myself and I am stubborn about that. But CU is simply a tool and so many great designers use it as such and make it their own. There is nothing wrong with that! These designers that use CU well can still design circles around me and my CU free-ness. I'm realistic, so I know that!
Seriously, why does anyone care what everyone else is doing? Not trying to be snarky, I just don't understand why it bothers some people so much?
Taking a picture of a flower YOURSELF and extracting it YOURSELF is NOT using a CU item.
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Extracting is not designing. It's extracting. Extraction is not creating a new image, it is altering an existing image. Why is it such a big deal if someone uses a flower they extract themselves versus using one that someone's already done? (I understand there is crappy CU out there but that's a whole separate argument.)
And to the post before this one, I also don't quite understand why some people care so much about what everyone else is doing.
Just because they create everything themselves (no CU in their kit) doesn't mean that they can make a decent kit!
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ITA!
any opinions on the best and maybe most versatile 365 kit out there?
just a thought, an interior designer is more like a CT..not the designer of fabric and furniture. CT's rearrange the designs of a designer...
just my opinion
I am really pondering that so you think you can package? previews are such an important part of the designers (one more thing to do) I know that some designers who have it down, (like Flergs) sell her previews and they are good. It would be a good contest!
Powers that read this...come on, have fun, it'll get ripped, (as is anything that is doing well) but I really think it would be fun!
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That post is a mess. Learn to write.
Taking a picture of a flower YOURSELF and extracting it YOURSELF is NOT using a CU item.
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Extracting is not designing. It's extracting. Extraction is not creating a new image, it is altering an existing image. That's why I included the part about taking the picture yourself. It's not easy to take a picture that is good to do an extraction on, and if they are taking it themselves they are thinking about lighting, angles, etc. when they are doing it. It IS possible to do an extraction on damn near any image, but to get it looking good they do need to put in the forethought and effort to get a GOOD picture to start with.
I love the idea of a preview packaging contest. I'm no good at kit stuff, only decent at making scrap pages, but templates and/or previews I think I would have fun with those sorts of contests =D
I don't really love The Daily Digi, but I am a fan of The Simple Scrapper.
I love the idea of a preview packaging contest. I'm no good at kit stuff, only decent at making scrap pages, but templates and/or previews I think I would have fun with those sorts of contests =D
May 24, 2009 8:33 PM
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You don't need a contest. Every time you put it in the store it is already in a contest against other kits to win a scrapper's money! Every time it sells, you win! ;)
Good grief, take your medication. Trust me, it's not that important to me (and I DO stay away from that contest).
Step away from your computer and into the real world once in a while.
The purpose of my expressing my opinion was simply to add to the pot. Nothing earth-shattering.
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I don't care if designers add CU stuff to their kits in their shops, but they have no place in a DESIGNING contest.
May 24, 2009 9:48 AM
blah, blah, blah. If you have a problem with the contest, just stay away. There are many out there who don't give a crap if CU is used in a contest, in a store, in a freebie or whatever else you want to bitch and moan about.
If you think it's really THAT important for things to be CU free, why don't you do something about it, and start a contest or store or something that will only allow CU free stuff. Knock yourself out.
You don't need a contest. Every time you put it in the store it is already in a contest against other kits to win a scrapper's money! Every time it sells, you win! ;)
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LOL - I don't sell anything, so there's not much motivation for me at the moment. Besides, I think the contests are just as much about building community as they are about scrapping/designing/etc.
Just because they create everything themselves (no CU in their kit) doesn't mean that they can make a decent kit!
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May 24, 2009 5:37 PM
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Just because they don't use CU doesn't mean they CAN'T make a decent kit either. ;)
Just because they don't use CU doesn't mean they CAN'T make a decent kit either. ;)
May 25, 2009 8:35 AM
True, but the discussion is about degrading those designers who choose to use CU. Those that don't use CU seem to feel that they should be held in higher esteem which simply isn't accurate. I've seen total crap come from designers that make it all themselves. It's all digital looking or they take bad photos or scans of the objects in the kits. There's so much more to designing a kit than whether or not the stuff is CU.
True, but the discussion is about degrading those designers who choose to use CU.
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No, you also missed the point. The discussion started by saying that designers in a DESIGNING CONTEST should not be using CU. Is it hard to understand? We want to see THEIR skills (designing, extracting, taking photos, drawing in illustrator, call it want you want).
Designing involves a whole lot more than being able to extract a flower or hand-paint a bow. It involves coordination and using colors and textures in a way that makes everything blend seamlessly and also putting together something people not only will want to use but can use easily. Whether a designer uses CU or not is irrelevant in a kit-making contest or even just making a simple kit for free or for sale. These people in this particular contest weren't asked create one item from scratch, they were asked to make kits based on colors and themes. It's the way that it's all put together that matters the most, CU or no CU.
One more thought to that last post. Hold a contest for 10 different designers and ask them to create a kit ONLY with CU items. These people will be required to use the exact same CU products.
You'll get 10 completely different kits in the end and some will suck and be completely unusable and some will be absolutely breathtaking. It's not the CU products being used, it's the way the designer is using them.
You'll get 10 completely different kits
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I don't agree. I see so many designers using CU elements, flowers for example, and they don't change them, not even recolor them. Their kits are all the same.
I don't understand this whole argument. If you don't like CU, don't use it, don't buy it, don't enter contests that allow use of it and don't vote on contests where it's being used.
It seems simple enough to me. You know what they say about opinions.
I'm hearing that Scrap Orchard is running around and offering people in their SUTUCD contest permanent spots in their shop now. I thought this contest was for free advertising and a guest spot at SO but it looks like they lied about that and they are a bunch of sneaky bitches after all. Well that's not really that surprising. Quite disappointing though. Can no one tell the truth in this industry?
I would laugh my ass off if Flergs left SBG for SO.
The SO team posted a few weeks ago at DSA that they would be offering some SYTYCD designers spots at the end of the competition in lieu of a designer call. I wish they'd just have a call, some of us didn't have time to do the contest or the desire but would still like to apply.
Anyone reading along on the drama about the pirated SYTYCD freebies?
this seems like a duh thing. they held a contest, got to see all the gorgeous kits ppl made under pressure, got to know them in the forum/community part of the site, and now they're not allowed to do anything else? Pffft! They can do what they like. If designers don't want to accept the offers they don't have to. I'm sure they're getting offers from more places than that.
Ah well I missed that statement. They probably should have said that from the beginning. Because now they look like sneaky bitches to me. If you started something finish it off well. Don't change your mind half way through ykwim?
the pirate stuff was funny for a day, it's pretty much over now. the owner of the pirate forum doesn't know how to set permissions (everyone can moderate upon registration) so their shit ALL disappeared pretty quick.
this seems like a duh thing. they held a contest, got to see all the gorgeous kits ppl made under pressure, got to know them in the forum/community part of the site, and now they're not allowed to do anything else?
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I disagree. If they wanted to do this as a SO thing, then fine make that a part of the contest and hire who you want to at the end. But they made this a DSA thing for advertising and then changed their minds and said to themselves "Who can we steal for our shop?" That's what rubs me the wrong way here.
There's no honesty out there I tell you.
Pirating freebies? Waah waah.
Ah well I missed that statement. They probably should have said that from the beginning. Because now they look like sneaky bitches to me. If you started something finish it off well. Don't change your mind half way through ykwim?
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Oh please, you will look for anything to bitch about. They announced in the forum 3 weeks ago that they were going to do that. They have every right! One person in the contest that I know of has been offered spots at 3 different stores! If other stores can come in and try to snag some of these designers, why can't those running the actual contest offer up the same? I really have to wonder what exactly your problem with the DSA/SO girls is? Get over it already.
i about had a heart attack when i saw the new girl say that she bought from magical creations @ pickleberrypop. upon researching, i'm glad to know she meant magical reality. Josy from magical creations was just as much a pirate as Barbie last I checked, but with better packaging.
I wish people would just stay where they are at. Most of the designers in SYTYCD are at great stores already! All the jumping around is just a mess for the customers. "Where is Vera Lim now?" "Where is Emily Merritt now?" I get sick of people changing their minds every month about what store they want to make their home. Just thinking over some of the places these designers are at already - SPD, SBG, SM, TDC, FPD? all those shops are great shops! Top shops! Why move to SO? It's either a step to the side or a step down. Their sales probably wouldn't change one bit. You know I never did get why Bren Boone left SPD for SO. Big step down IMO.
It just bugs me and I really wish designers would find one happy shop and just stay there. Then we'd know where to find them when we want them.
You are right 3:17. I absolutely hate SO. They just rub me the wrong way and always have from the very start. All that drama about splitting away from DC. And then there's the crap they pulled with last year's SYTYCD contest winners. I just don't trust them and never will. They talk like everything is on the up and up but I don't believe it.
What did they do to last year's winners?
Yeah, and it looks like Bren Boone went MIA (again) and Shannon is trying to hunt her down. Bren is up for the June Kit and isn't answering Shannon's emails.
Shame, cause I really like Bren's designs. But that chick is consistent in being inconsistent.
May 22, 2009 6:33 PM
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I heard that she did the same thing for the second time at TDC too. My friend who's on their CT said that she was scheduled to be a guest twice and just never showed up. What's up with her? Divorce? Sick kids? I feel bad for her if its that sort of thing but she'd looking really flaky here. I'd hate to see her cause a big embarrassing stink at DST when those members don't get their free kits. Can't you hear them bitch now? I like Bren and I don't want to see that happen to her.
Also, there's no way I'd be paying for a Gold membership with that new line up. I've heard of only a handful of those designers. I read though and posted in Shannon's threads about what designers they should pick. Looks like they could care less about who we really want.
All that drama about splitting away from DC. And then there's the crap they pulled with last year's SYTYCD contest winners. I just don't trust them and never will. They talk like everything is on the up and up but I don't believe it.
May 25, 2009 3:31 PM
Do tell. I never frequented DC, so I guess I was out of the loop on that one.
And what did they do with last year's SYTYCD winners?
You are right 3:17. I absolutely hate SO. They just rub me the wrong way and always have from the very start. All that drama about splitting away from DC.
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I hate when people post anonymously and say they hate something with absolutely no explanation except vague accusations. Sure, it's a smack blog, so smack away but at least back up you're vague BS with some actual detail... Sheesh...
Ah well I missed that statement. They probably should have said that from the beginning. Because now they look like sneaky bitches to me. If you started something finish it off well. Don't change your mind half way through ykwim?
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Yeah, what a bunch of sneaky underhanded bitches. First they announce a contest where one of the prizes is (possibly) a guest designer spot at their store. Then, according to you anyway, they have the nerve to try and offer some of the entrants jobs at their store where they can maybe make some money! What a bunch of snooty, good for nothing, a*holes. How dare they?
I don't even know (or care much about) SO, but come on, you've got to be kidding me with this...
I wish they'd just have a call, some of us didn't have time to do the contest or the desire but would still like to apply.
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Or you could just fill out the handy online form-
http://scraporchard.com/designerapplication.php
You are right 3:17. I absolutely hate SO. They just rub me the wrong way and always have from the very start. All that drama about splitting away from DC.
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I'm a relative newbie around here, so don't know what DC has to do with SO, but considering what happened with DC recently seems like the SO people made the right call, no?
I disagree. If they wanted to do this as a SO thing, then fine make that a part of the contest and hire who you want to at the end. But they made this a DSA thing for advertising and then changed their minds and said to themselves "Who can we steal for our shop?" That's what rubs me the wrong way here.
There's no honesty out there I tell you.
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What is the problem here? They held a contest, put the time into organizing and hosting it. And they said that they were going to take some people from the contest as new designers at their store instead of holding a call. And OH NO!! Now they're doing just that?
How dare they!? ha ha - you're a stupid bitch trying to stir up trouble.
And for the record, how the hell is that dishonest?
Seems to me that people posting that this woman is a sneaky bitch are probably the same ones that are probably in the contest trying to steal people for their suck ass stores and haven't been successful. Sounds like yet another case of sour grapes to me.
Besides if your store sucks shit and people can "steal" designers from it, then you should simply make a better store and get the hell over it.
I'm a relative newbie around here, so don't know what DC has to do with SO, but considering what happened with DC recently seems like the SO people made the right call, no?
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I certainly don't know all the details but I do know that the trouble was with the previous owner of DC. I think her name was Heidi? Shauna went public with some "bad stuff" she allegedly did but later there were allegations that Shauna just made it all up I think.
And I also heard that they snubbed a few of the top performers in last year's SYT contest. They wouldn't let them in the shop after all. At least, that's what I've heard from a few friends.
Then, according to you anyway, they have the nerve to try and offer some of the entrants jobs at their store where they can maybe make some money!
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Uh, we ain't talking about homeless designers or complete newbies. These designers are already making money at popular stores.
What's with all of the SO hate? I'm new to this blog, and seems no one likes them? I have to say I really love their store. Some of my fav designs are there - SherryJD and Irene - and I find that I buy alot of stuff there. When they had their farmer's market for NSD I picked up 10 great kits for only $1 each. Love them.
I love SO too. Just ignore the bitchy poster, she obviously has a bug up her ass about SO.
Uh, we ain't talking about homeless designers or complete newbies. These designers are already making money at popular stores.
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And your point is what, exactly? Not sure I follow...
You are right 3:17. I absolutely hate SO. They just rub me the wrong way and always have from the very start. All that drama about splitting away from DC. And then there's the crap they pulled with last year's SYTYCD contest winners. I just don't trust them and never will. They talk like everything is on the up and up but I don't believe it.
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I certainly don't know all the details but I do know that the trouble was with the previous owner of DC. I think her name was Heidi? Shauna went public with some "bad stuff" she allegedly did but later there were allegations that Shauna just made it all up I think.
And I also heard that they snubbed a few of the top performers in last year's SYT contest. They wouldn't let them in the shop after all. At least, that's what I've heard from a few friends.
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Are you the same poster? Gettin' confused here watching all the fur fly :-(
Are you the same poster? Gettin' confused here watching all the fur fly :-(
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Hmmm, touching a nerve here perhaps?
Hmmm, touching a nerve here perhaps?
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OK, now I'm even more confused. What are you talking about, exactly? I just was wondering if the stuff in the second post (about Hedi or whatever) was the explanation for the first post? Just trying to follow the smack.
It's all drama. It doesn't matter who hosts the contest. Someone on the blog will always find something to bitch about. And I'm pretty sure that it's a person that is jealous because she didn't get offered the guest spot. Or got cut before the first round. Or someone blew her off in a forum a few weeks ago. Or maybe didn't leave praise on your layout. You name it. But no matter what no one in this industry will ever run a perfectly fair contest by this blog's standard. There will always be losers. There will always be stores that are too bias. Designers that are too good to be in contests, designers that aren't good enough because they use CU. Stores that try to steal the designers out of the contest, stores that are sore because they lost a designer. And it continues on and on...
ITA, 7:40. Amen. That is so spot on.
What I really love is that SO announced their CT contest at DSA and had to be asked why they never announced it at SO. Nothing like a slap in the face to your regular customers.
I understand announcing it at DSA and snagging other interested people as well, but I think its a little tacky not to mention it at your own site FIRST.
I don't get this. FIRST you all are saying that they are oriented the contest to much to favor SO by inviting designers to join the shop. And then your bitching because they didn't post the announcement about the DSA call at SO?
Should they keep them separate entities or not? Or maybe it's just non of our freakin' business because we don't pay the bills?
I realize this is probably two different people posting the complaints but I really think that you are just too bitter over silly digital scrapbooking stuff.
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I see my errors.
to should be too
your should be you're
non should be none
I never claimed to be perfect. ;)
7:54, read it again. The call for their SITE CT was posted at DSA, rather than at SO, the SITE the CT would be creating for. It should be posted at the SITE first. Then DSA. It has nothing to do with the stupid SYTYCD contest and one more example of how the SO owners tend to be near a lot of drama in the Digi world.
Should they keep them separate entities or not?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'd like to weigh in on this. They act like they are separate, like DSA is more neutral "like DST" but all their efforts over at DSA lead back to SO and are for the ultimate good of SO. Case in point the contest we're bitching about.
IMO, they should be separate. Who the hell needs two SO forums and galleries? Either make the new DST or be honest that you've made SO v.2. That's how I feel about it.
It will be really interesting to see how many designers they suck into SO now. I've heard of two already today who will be leaving their shops.
7:54, read it again. The call for their SITE CT was posted at DSA, rather than at SO, the SITE the CT would be creating for. It should be posted at the SITE first. Then DSA.
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I thought you were talking about the CT call for DSA!
SO owners tend to be near a lot of drama in the Digi world.
May 25, 2009 8:02 PM
^^^^
Only because you make it into a drama.
I don't see what the big deal is. But then again I could care less about a site CT call for a site that I don't care to hang out at. I'm not sure why you would care either since you feel they stir-up so much drama?
and one more example of how the SO owners tend to be near a lot of drama in the Digi world.
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ITA with that statement!
You know I wonder if a bunch of SO CT is over here today to defend them because I've seen this for ages yet some people here are talking like "WTF are we bitching about?" This is what I'm bitching about! lol
Too close to the drama. That sums it up for me...
Either make the new DST or be honest that you've made SO v.2. That's how I feel about it.
May 25, 2009 8:06 PM
^^^^
They can't make it that way. It's already bias as long as SO owns it. However, Shanon didn't own a shop and everyone claims that she played favorites too. Once again, no one can win when they are put up to the standards on this blog.
I'd like to weigh in on this. They act like they are separate, like DSA is more neutral "like DST" but all their efforts over at DSA lead back to SO and are for the ultimate good of SO. Case in point the contest we're bitching about.
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So the SO owners, since they own DSA, shouldn't be allowed to use DSA to promote SO at all? Agreed that there is a fine line there and they need to be really, really careful not to cross it, but it also seems a little stupid to think they shouldn't be allowed to promote SO within the confines of DSA similar to how any number of other stores are doing it. Case in point, this contest- I've heard from a few designers in SYTYCD that I happen to know that they've been approached by other, non-SO stores. SO should not be allowed to do the same?
Don't know anything about the CT thing, though, guess I'll have to go read the thread on that one. *Sigh*
8:16, you are so clever to accuse the people that disagree with you of being on SO's CT. WOW! So original! I've never read that on this blog before.
Find a better way to debate.
I'm relatively new to the digiworld and found this blog before the whole Amanda post was removed by Shannon at DST. I've been coming back every once in a while since just to check things out and it seems like all that is ever discussed is Scrap Orchard this, DSA that. I had never been to either before that, but have since and thought they were okay, but nothing earth-shattering either (although I have enjoyed the SYTYCD contest). I can only come to a couple of reasonable conclusions based on what I've read since:
1) Either Scrap Orchard is the only digiscrapping site on the planet
or
2) Someone who is a frequent poster on this blog really hates SO for some reason
2) Someone who is a frequent poster on this blog really hates SO for some reason
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Or there are alot of us who hate SO. Shocker!
8:16, you are so clever to accuse the people that disagree with you of being on SO's CT. WOW! So original! I've never read that on this blog before.
Find a better way to debate.
May 25, 2009 8:20 PM
^^^^^
I'm just saying - that's where you tend to find the most rabid of fans, on a CT. Or I guess I should have said designers? Either way who cares? Arguing about that is pointless. SO is close to the drama - end of story. They even openly invite it at DSA. lol
1) Either Scrap Orchard is the only digiscrapping site on the planet
or
2) Someone who is a frequent poster on this blog really hates SO for some reason
OR
3) There just isn't another damn thing to talk about.
It's #2
There's always someone here at the blog who hates any given site or store. There's so much back-stabbing and drama at all the stores that anytime you get a site open to the whole digi community, you're going to have a wide variety of haters.
Or there are alot of us who hate SO. Shocker!
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I'm a pretty frequent customer of a number of sites, including SO (SPD, SBG, a few others). The thing is, I can't say that I, or any of my 'regular' scrapper friends, hate any particular site or designer. We buy what we like and all that...
The only person I can see hating on a specific site is if you're either a competitor trying to stir up shit, a designer that was rejected for some reason, or some other personal BS. Us regular customer's love drama and all that (or at least I do, LOL), but as a general rule I don't think we 'hate' anything.
Which really makes me wonder who the hell you people are that are hatin' so much... Maybe I'll go pick up a kit at SO to restore the balance of karma in the universe ;-) Have a lovely day!
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I like you.
I've heard of two already today who will be leaving their shops.
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who?
If you hold any store or individual under a magnifying glass and scrutinize everything they do... you are bound to find something you can take, distort and turn into something it's not or worse than it is for the sake of creating drama.
It's nothing new, it's exactly what a lot of main stream media outlets do, they want you to think and feel a certain way about a topic and slant their "information" to try to invoke a particular reaction. You can either believe everything you read/hear or you can think for yourself and make your own conclusions by gathering information from several sources and your own personal experiences.
I understand the need to vent, anonymously, I get it, really I do. I just don't understand the need to vent about fabricated situations or to create falsehoods, all in the name of drama. And, if you do have actual proof of what you are claiming, I would implore you to share it with the rest of us because without it, you are just another anonymous poster on a smack blog throwing around innuendos and inaccuracies.
so maybe I should explain the Josy/Magical Creations thing. Last year I found a forum she ran (linked from her site) and registered. There was a section of the board for kits, which I thought at the time that the members had made. I downloaded one, and when I opened it it turned out to be a Miss Vivi kit (which I found for sale in Miss Vivi's store). So I took a closer look at the others they had up, and they were all sale kits.
I guess they got busted on that (I was too chicken to say anything, I just deleted all Josy's stuff and the Miss Vivi kit [electric boy] from my hard drive) b/c they had a little announcement type thingy basically saying that the designers were the ones who were really breaking the law and they [Josy & crew] weren't doing anything wrong. That it was all a big case of entrapment on the designers' part and they were just victims.
And I never went back so idk what happened with that site after that.
What is fabricated?
1. The owners of SO did leave Digital Candy under less than pleasant circumstances.
2. They accepted Amanda Dykan into their store.
3. They opened DSA to be the next "hub" of digital scrapbooking. However, all things lead back to SO; even The Fix can only be purchased at SO.
4. They hold the next installment of SYTYCD at DSA with the prize being advertisement and a month guest gig. All of the sudden SYTYCD is their Designer Call. 5. Even their own site CT call is announced at DSA first, rather than letting their "valued customers" get the scoop first.
All of these things may seem innocent in and of themselves. However, when you take the fact that the same people are involved in ALL of these situations, it just makes you wonder.
So where do they say they want to be the new "hub"? Was that really their mission?
And why the hell does 3-5 even really matter unless you really want to create for them? If you believe them to be such drama queens why do you even give a crap about 3-5?
It isn't the only digiscrap place on the web to hang out.
what's up with fruity loopy sally?
All of these things may seem innocent in and of themselves. However, when you take the fact that the same people are involved in ALL of these situations, it just makes you wonder.
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Hell yes! It's not a bunch of big, huge, blatant stuff that is rubbing me the wrong way. It's a string of thing after thing like you mentioned that has me wondering as well. Whew! so glad that I'm not the only one to see it.
what's up with fruity loopy sally?
May 25, 2009 11:48 PM
YAWN. Nothing.
In two months there will be no reason for anyone to go to DSA any more, just like there's no one at MSA or DST anymore. The same group of posters that are all hot over DSA right now will get sick of it and find a new place to hang. It's just hilarious to see the same faces again and again talking about how cool and great and new DSA is but it's the same old crowd. Nothing new under the sun. Except for the raunchy talk. That's new! LOL
There better not be something up with FruitLoOp Sally. I love her stuff and I'd hate to have her surrounded in some awful scandal!
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