Here is some new space for you to discuss DSA, DST, MSA or anything else you want to debate about.
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For the person looking for the dirt on Amanda, I don't have time to rehash 3+weeks worth of drama for you, feel free to read the blog archives, it unfolded here. You have the link, spend your time looking for the information you are requesting.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1394 of 1394it sucks that designers ask their CT's to pimp all over gso. it totally ruined it when that started happening. before that, it was a fairly nice thread to look through. that's why i go to the gso blog now, to get a better feel for stuff out there that isn't being pimped all over the place. and pimped is definitely the right word for it lol.
where's the blog?
google is your friend :)
I think the GSO thread should remain as is. If people don't post traditional layouts in it now, what makes you think they will in a new GSO that's JUST for traditional layouts? What's stopping people from posting the kind of layouts that they want to see? I posted a couple for the first time in yesterday's thread, just to get into the spirit of it, and it wasn't hard at all. The reason that the thread is so cluttered up with CT pimping and fantasy layouts is because no one who prefers traditional layouts is taking the time to post. If you don't post, don't complain. That's a generic you, btw--obviously I don't know who complains but never posts. I suspect it's a lot of people, though, since there is a lot of complaining and not a lot of posting.
June 17, 2009 12:25 PM
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I agree completely. I have heard it said here so many times that 'traditional' pages never make it to the GSO and I always reply, then why not post some. I guess it's easier to bitch and moan than to actually do something about it.
Perhaps there SHOULD be two standout threads:
1. Scrapbooking (memory Preservation) Standouts
2. Digital Art Standouts
Do you all think this would make everyone happier?
June 17, 2009 9:36 AM
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Who are you (generic you), or anyone, to tell me that my digital art page is not a memory preservation? Just because it doesn't look like a 'traditional' page, doesn't mean it's not a real memory with real feelings behind it.
I really hate the snobbery that the 'traditional' scrappers have for the fantasy scrappers. I always hear complaints about the fantasy pages and hardly any about the traditional pages. It has to make you think that the fantasy scrappers are way more satisfied with what they produce, doesn't it?
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Who are you (generic you), or anyone, to tell me that my digital art page is not a memory preservation? Just because it doesn't look like a 'traditional' page, doesn't mean it's not a real memory with real feelings behind it.
I really hate the snobbery that the 'traditional' scrappers have for the fantasy scrappers. I always hear complaints about the fantasy pages and hardly any about the traditional pages. It has to make you think that the fantasy scrappers are way more satisfied with what they produce, doesn't it?
June 17, 2009 6:38 PM
I think people are just looking for some distinction between the two. They can both be "memory preservation" but the memory is more abstract in the fantasy LO, it more a memory just for you. When someone else views the page the memory is as apparent.
I also think some of the " snobbery" is because a lot of these fantasy LO are strictly for CT pimping and alot of them have photo's that are from professional photographers that have been lifted from the internet. Sometimes with out credit of permission. Yours probably are not but you have to admit the majority of them are, so they all just get lumped together.
If you don't like the GSO because the layouts aren't your cup of tea, and you don't want to post the layouts that ARE your cup of tea, stop bitching about it and find what you're looking for in the gallery.
The tension between traditional and fantasy scrappers is one-sided. It's always the traditional "I'm preserving my memories and it's not fair that people don't recognize the difference" types who complain, and they usually come across as jealous and whiny (although there have been some very good posts about it today).
It's irritating, because the reality is if it's all about preserving memories, why do they give a damn who is/isn't in the GSO? Obviously, it's more about "look at me, because I care what a perfect stranger thinks about my layouts" than the GSO.
If you don't like what's there, post what you do like or shut the hell up.
I also think some of the " snobbery" is because a lot of these fantasy LO are strictly for CT pimping and alot of them have photo's that are from professional photographers that have been lifted from the internet. Sometimes with out credit of permission. Yours probably are not but you have to admit the majority of them are, so they all just get lumped together.
June 17, 2009 7:34 PM
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Good point.
Huh. While I agree to some extent with the digital art versus scrapbooking conversation, the one thing I think maybe that seems to be lost is that sometimes a layout can be both. I have a tendency to do primarily what I guess you would call 'scrapbooking' but occasionally do a layout that falls more under the header of 'digital art'. Just because the layout I made of my kid has them in a magical forest with wings and is more artistic in nature doesn't mean I wasn't scrapping a specific memory. In some cases maybe it's the way the picture I took makes me feel, or maybe it's because my kid was pretending to be a fairy. Point being, just because something may be more 'artistic' doesn't mean that it doesn't preserve one of my memories.
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9:36 Back again to say: I totally agree that a layout can be both. Technically, Digital Art is a more broad category, with digital scrapbooking being a specific subset of it that is focused on memory preservation and documenting family history.
Here's the definition of scrapbooking from Wikopedia: Scrapbooking is a method for preserving personal and family history in the form of photographs, printed media, and memorabilia contained in decorated albums, or scrapbooks.
Certainly some scrapbook pages can be very artistic and even be a fantasy page: ex. Your child dreams she can fly? Then by all means recreate the story with a fantasy scene. Or maybe you are journaling a special emotion and you create an artistic piece to go with it. I would still categorize these examples as scrapbooking.
To 6:38: Perhaps I should clarify by using the term 'documenting personal history' instead of 'memory preservation' (since virtually anything can create a memory in the creator): The digital art pieces that I'm referring to are not DOCUMENTING A PERSONAL HISTORY, therefore, they should be considered digital art instead of digital scrapbooking.
And I don't see the snobbery being referred to. I stated that I admire digital art pieces and find them inspiring. I just think that for contests, digital art pieces should be distinguished from scrapbooking. I know people who ONLY create digital art, and they themselves admit that they are not really scrapbookers. I don't see why this distinction should offend anyone.
To 6:38: Perhaps I should clarify by using the term 'documenting personal history' instead of 'memory preservation' (since virtually anything can create a memory in the creator): The digital art pieces that I'm referring to are not DOCUMENTING A PERSONAL HISTORY, therefore, they should be considered digital art instead of digital scrapbooking.
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But how do you know? That's the point. If you start to categorize them and put them into different areas, you are going to get conflicting points of view, as you do now. How do you know it's not documenting personal history? Did you ask the creator?
Take Art Journaling for instance. It's definitely documenting personal history, but in an arty way. Quite a lot of the 'fantasy' pages I see are art journal pages. What can be more personal than a journal?
Do you see the difficulties that can arise?
And to clarify, the you I'm using is the generic you.
For me the question comes in WHY do some scrappers feel a need for a distinction?
Is it because they are not getting the affirmation they feel they deserve? Is it because they want to feel better about the pages they make because they are "real" scrapbooking pages?
Really, what is the motivation?
I suspect it's rooted in competitiveness and comparisons and IMO scrapping is about neither.
If it is not, then why in the world does anyone care what pages are recognized as standouts?
I'm in the "I don't see the two and mutually exclusive and therefore do not want or think there is a need for the distinction" camp.
If you don't like the GSO because the layouts aren't your cup of tea, and you don't want to post the layouts that ARE your cup of tea, stop bitching about it and find what you're looking for in the gallery.
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I don't think anyone said they don't like digital art pieces. The only point being made is that there are two different types of layouts being created:
A. Scrapbook pages whose main object is to document personal histories (ie real memories)
B. Digital Art pieces which are created with no expectations other than to be art (as a creative outlet).
I think the issue is that when you lump everything together, the scrapbooking pages are often out-shined by the artistic beauty of the digital art. And they are often overlooked in the GSO and contests. Let's face it, I'd be hard pressed to find a scrapbooker who's scrapping real-life events that could shine next to 'she_'s gallery: http://tinyurl.com/nqzo2d
Let's take 'she_' as an example - to me she is a Digital Artist more than a scrapbooker. I can look at hundreds of pages in her gallery and yet I know nothing about her or her history. Who are the children in these beautiful pages? What stories and memories do they hold? There's not one piece of journaling anywhere. Don't get me wrong...I adore her work - I just think this is art and not scrapbooking.
Why was Melanie Colosimo (lemonyr) banned from DST?
But how do you know? That's the point. If you start to categorize them and put them into different areas, you are going to get conflicting points of view, as you do now. How do you know it's not documenting personal history? Did you ask the creator?
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Only the creator would know. The category of whether something is digital art or a scrapbooking can only be decided by the creator herself! I would never presume to decide this for someone else.
I usually create scrapbooking layouts, but occasionally I create a digital art piece just for the fun of it. I KNOW beyond a doubt which ones are which...the digital art ones are fun...I might even display them around my house, or I might create them to challenge myself - but they aren't a part of my family legacy.
Wow I never thought she'd be banned but goes to show that you really don't know anyone online. She was one of the very first to join DST back in the day.
In my experience as a person who actually spends time in the gallery (gasp!)...the number of CT pimpers using stock photos or snagging them from the internets, is actually very low relatively speaking. Most of the Euro set *do* scrap with photos of their own kids. I know this because I've actually gotten to know these people in the gallery.
Not that that would change things for those who already don't care for the digital art fantasy crowd, but it makes a difference to me because it makes their pages personal. And therefore who am I to criticize them? Who am I to say those pages aren't for their personal memory keeping..and who cares if it's not realistic? I sure don't. Whatever floats their boat. If it's beautiful to them, then so be it.
This whole discussion is just silly to me. The community is what we make it. Don't like what gets attention? Be proactive and post what you do like.
Wonder why the GSO thread is full of similar styles? It's because those are the people who are really active in the gallery and they are sharing what they like. Is there blatant pimping going on? Sure there is. But not nearly as much as non-gallery hos assume. I think mostly it's people who share a similar scrapping/art taste, sharing what they LIKE. Just because it's not what you (general you) likes and just because they may be on a CT it doesn't make it pimping.
I would wager most of those who complain about the state of things are NOT gallery hos, and therefore only making judgments on what they see in one very subjective thread. Spend any decent amount of time in the gallery and you'd see the whole sociology of it AND you'd see that all this you complain about is really in the minority. Seriously.
Perhaps those you consider "digital artists" prefer to keep their journaling private, and post their layouts before adding it. If someone like She put journaling on her layouts for all to see, her life would be an open book simply because she is so prolific in her posting. I wouldn't presume to tell her that her layouts are strictly art, not scrapbooking. It's for her to decide, and in the meantime I love to look at her pages, and wonder how she can do SO many SO well.
8:56...why do you care about the backstory of she_'s pages? Why do you need to see the full story? And for that matter why would it matter if there wasn't one? Why not take it for what it is and admire that she's amazingly talented in an artistic and techinical way? I think you do. I'm just tossing this out there to beg the question:
Why do her (or any others like her) pages need to be separated from those who are not like hers? Why the need for a distinction? Really why?
Perhaps those you consider "digital artists" prefer to keep their journaling private, and post their layouts before adding it. If someone like She put journaling on her layouts for all to see, her life would be an open book simply because she is so prolific in her posting. I wouldn't presume to tell her that her layouts are strictly art, not scrapbooking. It's for her to decide, and in the meantime I love to look at her pages, and wonder how she can do SO many SO well.
June 17, 2009 9:12 PM
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8:56...why do you care about the backstory of she_'s pages? Why do you need to see the full story? And for that matter why would it matter if there wasn't one? Why not take it for what it is and admire that she's amazingly talented in an artistic and techinical way? I think you do. I'm just tossing this out there to beg the question:
Why do her (or any others like her) pages need to be separated from those who are not like hers? Why the need for a distinction? Really why?
June 17, 2009 9:19 PM
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Exactly! I do all kinds of pages, white space, graphic, element sneeze, fantasy, etc. The one thing they have in common, they rarely have journaling on them. I put the journaling on later, on the back as I often don't like the look of the writing on the page. That's just me.
She does have beautiful gallery but I do wonder who all those children are. Where did she get those pictures, she is one that "I" suspect has lifted those photo's. Just my opinion, not making an accusation.
Melanie C. was banned? OMG, when? and why? I'm more than a little shocked if this is true.
Why was Melanie Colosimo (lemonyr) banned from DST?
June 17, 2009 8:56 PM
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When did that happen? She's a regular poster but I just noticed that her last activity at DST was in April, do you think it was that far back? She's still selling at Oscraps though.
Melanie C. was banned? OMG, when? and why? I'm more than a little shocked if this is true.
June 17, 2009 9:38 PM
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It's true, check her profile:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/member.php?u=180
Wow I never thought she'd be banned but goes to show that you really don't know anyone online. She was one of the very first to join DST back in the day.
June 17, 2009 9:04 PM
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Not sure what you mean by this. I'm assuming you have no idea why she was banned, so it could have been a misunderstanding, goodness knows, it's happened at DST before.
I just meant that I had no idea why she was banned. The only reason that I've heard of banning members was piracy. If there are other reasons then I don't know them. I would not have expected her to be accused of piracy though.
Lots of visits to Melanie's profile. When I was there, it had 5 visits, now it has 23 and some names are there too.
Ohhh names!! Who the flip gives a shite.
I think it's pretty common knowledge that there are LOTS of readers of this blog.
Sooooo mrsmeek. Pimping Hazel Olive designs on this blog the other day?
Ohhh names!! Who the flip gives a shite.
I think it's pretty common knowledge that there are LOTS of readers of this blog.
June 17, 2009 11:12 PM
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You must, or you wouldn't react like this. Sheesh.
Wrong 11:17-I over react with sarcasm all the time IRL.
ALL
THE
TIME
I really couldn't give a flip about who reads this blog.
I don't care either, I was just saying. No need for the sarcasm at all.
Gee, first it was the paper scrappers V digi scrappers with the paper scrappers saying that digi wasn't "real scrapbooking". Now it's traditional digi V fantasy digi with the traditional digi scrappers saying that fantasy isn't "real scrapbooking".
Good grief people. Scrap the way you like to scrap and leave others to do the same.
I hate this "them V us" mentality.
Off to scrap "my way". :)
Bet your way is not real scrapbooking.
Agree with above, everyone scrap what/how/when/where you want and keep your nose out of other scrapper's business.
Would like honest feedback...I've noticed a few designers that I've dubbed my "favs" using the same items in kits over and over...all of a sudden I'm noticing this...same element shows up in several kits, not even changed either! Or minor change to the exact same element. Its annoying!
Anyone else notice this with certain designers? Not "standard" CU items either (like curly folded tied circle ribbons, lol) but acrylic brackets and frames, swirls, everything! Its the same kit over and over with a different color laid on top...ach!
I had never heard of she_ before this blog and went to check out her art at DST. I really like her digital artistry- Does anyone know if she has a Blog? Does anyone know the blog address? Thanks!
I have also noticed the same elements being used in multiple kits. And also between designers at the same store - I can think of one store right now that had a recent big sale and I bought several kits and got several of the same elements - in different kits, from different designers! I didn't realize they shared stuff - or have the same "sources." But it was/is VERY annoying!
I have also noticed the same elements being used in multiple kits. And also between designers at the same store - I can think of one store right now that had a recent big sale and I bought several kits and got several of the same elements - in different kits, from different designers! I didn't realize they shared stuff - or have the same "sources." But it was/is VERY annoying!
Ah... you must have shopped at SSD! There was some discussion earlier in this thread about how they 'pool' their designer resources. Certainly not OK if they are using any CU items at all!
They do that? That's crazy. Why would they do that? So their designers can pump out more crap faster? I would never agree to allow use of my stuff like that.
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perhaps it's just CU created by their own designers (to share among SSD only). i don't think anyone in their right mind would share CU items bought from other sites for this purpose...
Well only a real SSD-designer will be able to answer that question and set aside any speculation (....and we DO know they read this blog....)
Gee I wonder what new kits are being released today? I can just go to the GSO and find out.
11:54 here.
I do not know for a fact that they do that.... just going on what others posted... which could be completely false... Anything on this blog could be 100% fiction. I actually wish I hadn't posted that, since I have no way of knowing if they really do pool their resources, not being from SSD.
I have also noticed the same elements being used in multiple kits. And also between designers at the same store - I can think of one store right now that had a recent big sale and I bought several kits and got several of the same elements - in different kits, from different designers! I didn't realize they shared stuff - or have the same "sources." But it was/is VERY annoying!
Ah... you must have shopped at SSD! There was some discussion earlier in this thread about how they 'pool' their designer resources. Certainly not OK if they are using any CU items at all!
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I would be very very very surprised to find that SBB shared resources. I don't think they would ever take the chance to do something like that and not expect at some point that it would come out so that is just a rediculous statement.
The reason you see so many of the same elements is because they are buying from the same CU designers. Duh it's not just SBB it's designers all over the internet. Obviously they don't know how to use a resource and instead just recolor and plop in a kit and call it designing. If you are unhappy about it look for the designers who know how to use resources or design all their own items.
I wasn't referring to SSD or SBB. And these were not elements like string or buttons... they were the same elements that were a little more unique, like feathered wings, baby shoes, etc. I do not know if those are CU or not, but even so, why put the exact same thing in multiple kits? Not even recolored or anything. There was also a very popular designer who early on did the same thing within her own kits. I was very disappointed to find I had like 5 of the same circle frames. LOL
Gee, first it was the paper scrappers V digi scrappers with the paper scrappers saying that digi wasn't "real scrapbooking". Now it's traditional digi V fantasy digi with the traditional digi scrappers saying that fantasy isn't "real scrapbooking".
Good grief people. Scrap the way you like to scrap and leave others to do the same.
I hate this "them V us" mentality.
Off to scrap "my way". :)
I was thinking the same thing.
wv = relli I relli relli do hate these ridiculous squabbles over who is a "real" scrapbooker.
Anyone else notice this with certain designers? Not "standard" CU items either (like curly folded tied circle ribbons, lol) but acrylic brackets and frames, swirls, everything! Its the same kit over and over with a different color laid on top...ach!
June 18, 2009 8:02 AM
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Yes, I've noticed this at SA. Several of the designers there purchase Amanda's CU items and then put them in their kits. Quite a while ago, Aja and Rachel released separate kits that had the same CU rose in it, which was from Amanda. Neither of them had even bothered to recolor the original item.
The last update on Melanie's blog is in March. Around the time she started dwindling away from DST. I wonder what happened. There hasn't been any gossip about her. Maybe the banning is a mistake.
To the DST Hall of Fame Sherlock Holmes:
It always makes me laugh how people try and call someone out personally on here like it's some kind of threat or something.
By the way...this blog isn't the only place people find out information in the digital world. Not to mention the many times I have seen people trying to act like they are someone else. Stop assuming your "in the know" about who is reading or posting on an anonymous blog.
What are you talking about?
By the way...this blog isn't the only place people find out information in the digital world.
Link us up.
Personally, I've never claimed to know who is posting or reading. I rather think there are more people reading than posting but I don't know for sure. Isn't that what anonymous is all about. I just laugh at posts that *think* they know who is posting.
I am blonde, female and a digital scrapper...Who I am?
What are you talking about?
Ditto! I was just about to type the same thing. lmbo
Personally, I've never claimed to know who is posting or reading. I rather think there are more people reading than posting but I don't know for sure. Isn't that what anonymous is all about. I just laugh at posts that *think* they know who is posting.
June 18, 2009 6:39 PM
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Me too. I've been 'accused' of being so many people, but never who I really am.
Yes, I've noticed this at SA. Several of the designers there purchase Amanda's CU items and then put them in their kits. Quite a while ago, Aja and Rachel released separate kits that had the same CU rose in it, which was from Amanda. Neither of them had even bothered to recolor the original item.
June 18, 2009 5:53 PM
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Duh!
People do that all the time! It's called repaking! A lot of CU designer don't require that you modify their products before throwing them in your kits. There is nothing wrong with that if your are not against their TOU. And about finding the same element in multiple kits from the same designer, well maybe the designer doesn't know that she has a fan that buys all of her kits!
Duh!
People do that all the time! It's called repaking! A lot of CU designer don't require that you modify their products before throwing them in your kits. There is nothing wrong with that if your are not against their TOU. And about finding the same element in multiple kits from the same designer, well maybe the designer doesn't know that she has a fan that buys all of her kits!
June 18, 2009 7:06 PM
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Duh yourself. I never said there was anything wrong with it and I never said it had to be recolored. Not sure why you are flying off on a tangent about TOUs and stuff. My point is that I don't want to buy two kits from two different designers and have the same elements in it, do I? If the designers were smart, they would change it up.
You must be a designer who does this, the whole 'repaking', any idiot can do that. It's not designing.
Designers sharing files or using another designer's non-commercial use product to create new product is the only thing listed as reason for a ban on the DST faq page.
Designers sharing files or using another designer's non-commercial use product to create new product is the only thing listed as reason for a ban on the DST faq page.
June 18, 2009 7:44 PM
Well that or if you call someone a dumbass, or Shannon a slut or something.
"A federal jury Thursday found a 32-year-old Minnesota woman guilty of illegally downloading music from the Internet and fined her $80,000 each — a total of $1.9 million — for 24 songs.
Jammie Thomas-Rasset’s case was the first such copyright infringement case to go to trial in the United States, her attorney said."
If she loses this appeal, the gates are open and the manhunt for pirates is on.
In my original post I wasn't talking about using CU items over and over, I was talking about a designer (as one person put it) "repacking" their own items in several different kits. If you make an acrylic mat and put it in a kit, why put it in the very next kit you make, too? I mean, these designers know they have the same people buying every kit they make, they see the invoices. I just wondered if I was the only one who cared (I didn't see the previous discussion on this topic, sorry.)
And I'm not talking about SSD because I don't shop there, I was talking about someone at SO (this was a few months back).
I just hate it when I see a kit I like, buy it, then open it up to find elements I've already gotten in the previous kit by the same designer. I've not bought anything further from designers who I've caught doing this, either. Why bother??
In my original post I wasn't talking about using CU items over and over, I was talking about a designer (as one person put it) "repacking" their own items in several different kits. If you make an acrylic mat and put it in a kit, why put it in the very next kit you make, too? I mean, these designers know they have the same people buying every kit they make, they see the invoices. I just wondered if I was the only one who cared (I didn't see the previous discussion on this topic, sorry.)
And I'm not talking about SSD because I don't shop there, I was talking about someone at SO (this was a few months back).
I just hate it when I see a kit I like, buy it, then open it up to find elements I've already gotten in the previous kit by the same designer. I've not bought anything further from designers who I've caught doing this, either. Why bother??
June 19, 2009 6:47 AM
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When you say that this designer put the EXACT element in other kit, you mean same color, same style, well, exactly the same one? I mean, for me, it's really not a big deal if she puts generic items like an acrylic frame or a mat in every kit but if she made specific items like a blue airplane or a yellow watercolor air balloon and throw it in every kit, then it would be different.
I had never heard of she_ before this blog and went to check out her art at DST. I really like her digital artistry- Does anyone know if she has a Blog? Does anyone know the blog address? Thanks!
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You never heard of _she? She is amazing. Here's a trick if you want to see the most artistic pages at DST. Hit '14 days' and make sure your pages are set to 90 images per page. Then go to the bottom and search on 'views', 'last month' then 'descending'. It will pull up the layouts in the last month with the most views. The all-time top viewed layouts are always '_she', 'bml' and 'Sydney'. They are all amazing. Sometimes you have to scroll through a few rows of layouts before you start seeing view counts in the 500s+ (not sure why)
Regarding Melissa's profile - there's now been 112 visitors - including 'DST DADDY' LOL! (Shannon's dh)
Regarding Melissa's profile - there's now been 112 visitors - including 'DST DADDY' LOL! (Shannon's dh)
Melissa? Do you mean Melanie?
now been 112 visitors - including 'DST DADDY' LOL! (Shannon's dh)
June 19, 2009 4:36 PM
Not surprising at all. It's always been apparent that they read over here, even though they claim they're 'above' it.
DST is down for me now. I get a data base error.
I see Maya is using SBG's mailing list to send out her own private sale notices again.
You'd think she would have learned after the hoohaa over the last time she did it.
Some people just don't give a shit what their customers think obviously.
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or maybe she knows her customers don't really care. Why would they? Why would you? I'm sorry, I just don't get it.
Here's two things I just don't get...
The whole CT "pimping" in galleries complaint. From what I see, it is rare when CT do use stock photos for their layouts. But, They still took as long as you to if not longer to create these layouts. Aren't galleries about inspiration and sharing our talent? Since most of the CT members use their own personal photos in their layouts...how can you complain just because they got their kit for free And the designer gets a bit of advertisement in the process? These are still their personal creations and have as much right to be in the gallery as yours.
On another note, the whole real vs fantasy debate. I think that trends should be mentioned here. Just like in clothing, new styles come and go. Being a New style doesn't meant it no long falls into the "clothing" category, no matter how different or odd the new style may be. The fantasy layouts are what is "in" in scrapbooking now. Were not in the 90's anymore people!!! I welcome the change. It is refreshing and really opening the doors to a younger scrapbook crowd that is helping to keep this business alive. Also, the new style has no effect on your grandma's style scrapbooking. This is art with memory preservation and it is wonderful! People just tend to lean towards what is beautiful rather than typical.
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or maybe she knows her customers don't really care. Why would they? Why would you? I'm sorry, I just don't get it.
Because I signed up to get the SBG newsletter. Not to get spam from someone who is using the mailing list to send out their own personal stuff. And besides that, her designs are horrid !!
Maya is a crazy bitch!
The problem I have with CT pimping in the GSO is that it's turned it into more of a "here's all the layouts we CT's have made with our designer's latest release and aren't they great" thread. Same elements and papers used different ways by very talented scrappers, but it's obvious that they are marketing the product, which isn't the supposed to be the point of the thread.
I think A5 CTMs are the worst with the GSO and new kit releases. They are gorgeous layouts, don't get me wrong, but every single one in GSO? Please!
ITA, 12:49. The A5 CT has totally turned me off, and I just can't stomach the place anymore.
Are people just deliberately being obtuse? No one has said that the DST gallery is being used for pimping, they've said that the GSO THREAD @ DST is being used for pimping. Big difference.
And they're right. It's been misused for a long time now and the DST owners and mods don't give a crap. I gave up on it a long time ago.
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or maybe she knows her customers don't really care. Why would they? Why would you? I'm sorry, I just don't get it.
Because I signed up to get the SBG newsletter. Not to get spam from someone who is using the mailing list to send out their own personal stuff. And besides that, her designs are horrid !!
June 21, 2009 11:14 PM
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I bitched to her about this - cause I signed up for SBB NOT the Maya Fan Club & she banned me from the store. If you REALLY like shopping there, shut your trap or she'll ban you.
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I see Maya is using SBG's mailing list to send out her own private sale notices again.
You'd think she would have learned after the hoohaa over the last time she did it.
Some people just don't give a shit what their customers think obviously.
June 21, 2009 5:27 AM
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I was happy to get it. It's not like she is sending them out everyday or every week.
The Bash Maya over the SBG newsletter is getting really old. She owns the place-she can do whatever she wants to with the newsletter.
If it really twists your knickers up that much, unsubscribe and STFU.
The Bash Maya over the SBG newsletter is getting really old. She owns the place-she can do whatever she wants to with the newsletter.
If it really twists your knickers up that much, unsubscribe and STFU.
June 22, 2009 5:41 PM
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It's hardly a bash and way to go. If you all for SBG, you just lost them a customer or two.
I unsubbed from SBG newsletter a long time ago because I was tired of getting Maya sales all the time. If I wanted Maya news, I'd have subbed to her, not her store. I agree, it is her store and she can run it any way she wants, but she has to face the consequences of losing customers and designers.
Doesn't Shauna send personal sales through the SO newsletter?
No I am not for SBG or any other store. I don't give a rat's ass how much they sell or don't sell. Just like I don't give a rat's ass about what the store owner chooses to put in the newsletter.
If you unsubscribed from it a long time ago, why the hell are you still bitching about it?
Grow up and get a life Susan.
I've worked for Maya in the past, and found her very friendly and easy going. Not sure what's up with the hate? And btw ... she probablys sends 2 newsletters per year, that's the big issue that's crawling up your panties? Just delete it if you don't like it, like anyone with half a brain would do.
I don't know Maya at all but seriously, you have GOT to be kidding me. You're mad because she used HER store newsletter to send out a personal sale notice?
I think you have way too much time on your hands or a past experience with her that is clouding your judgment.
In the real world, this isn't a big deal. You should find something to do with your time, maybe go volunteer at a shelter and see people with real problems.
I don't know Maya at all but seriously, you have GOT to be kidding me. You're mad because she used HER store newsletter to send out a personal sale notice?
I think you have way too much time on your hands or a past experience with her that is clouding your judgment.
In the real world, this isn't a big deal. You should find something to do with your time, maybe go volunteer at a shelter and see people with real problems.
June 22, 2009 9:04 PM
Exactly......I agree. Apparently I need to get a life too, ROFLMAO
If you unsubscribed from it a long time ago, why the hell are you still bitching about it?
June 22, 2009 7:00 PM
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I'm not bitching about it. It was someone else. You look like a moron when you assume the same people are posting, did you know that?
In the real world, this isn't a big deal. You should find something to do with your time, maybe go volunteer at a shelter and see people with real problems.
June 22, 2009 9:04 PM
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Oh, I do darling, I come here.
I've worked for Maya in the past, and found her very friendly and easy going. Not sure what's up with the hate?
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Who hated on Maya? People objected to the newsletter. I didn't see any hate. What's up with the assumption?
And they're right. It's been misused for a long time now and the DST owners and mods don't give a crap. I gave up on it a long time ago.
June 22, 2009 1:47 PM
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Yes, it's so much easier to bitch and moan and give up than to actually do something about it.
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They do that? That's crazy. Why would they do that? So their designers can pump out more crap faster? I would never agree to allow use of my stuff like that.
June 18, 2009 12:53 PM
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Exactly! CU resources are being shared. I know because I am on the team. Without being exposed (because I need the money and cant really lose the money I make that puts food on my table)I'll be vague. All I can say is that although it isn't clearly stated somewhere that we should share there was a post a few months back that turned into a discussion about using CU items. One designer joked about using another design team members cu item during a collab kit (an overlay by a popular SA artist) saying how it was no big deal since they worked on the same collection. Well, one designer spoke up saying how she thought it was very wrong but was immediately shot down by Manda, a long time designer, who replied saying we should all grow some balls. The thread never got another reply and that was the end of that. Since I have been there I have never felt welcome by this designer (Manda). She seems to be the bully of the team and Robin protects her. Between the sharing and pushing to make as many kits as possible each week I have truly lost my love for design and all I can hope for is that another opportunity comes my way soon, making the same good money.
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Great story. You should go into writing fictional short stories!
Like any other shop in digiland wouldn't take an SSD designer if they just asked. There's plenty of places to go that designers can make just as much. It's a load of crap!
I would need to see screen shots in order to believe that BS. But then again those can be altered too. Sounds like someone's got a problem with Manda.
Who other than someone on the inside at SSD would have a problem with Manda?? She's not active anywhere except SSD, and she's not that much of a presence on the public boards.
I would need to see screen shots in order to believe that BS. But then again those can be altered too. Sounds like someone's got a problem with Manda.
June 23, 2009 9:33 AM
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That's what I think, too. I call BS on your story. If you ARE one of the better designers at SSD, then go & find yourself a different store. If you do have a good clientelle, they'll follow you. If not, I feel that you're using the "protection" of SSD's shop & it's customer base for staying there.
Who other than someone on the inside at SSD would have a problem with Manda?? She's not active anywhere except SSD, and she's not that much of a presence on the public boards.
June 23, 2009 10:40 AM
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someone who got caught pirating when that SSD pirating thing blew up? Someone who just HATES SSD. Someone who used to hang out at SSD and decided that they don't like it anywhere. Manda doesn't have to leave SSD to be known if the person with the grudge used to hang out there or is even two faced enough to still hang out there.
I call BS on the story posted above. I don't believe that SSD designers would share CU items. It doesn't make sense for a well known designer to steal because they will get caught. There kits are in the spotlight and a CU designer can put two and two together by noticing that the designer never purchased the product. Rachelscraps, a popular CU designer, hangs out at SSD. I think she would notice if someone was using her stuff without purchasing it first.
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and if the grammar police are reading, I do see my typos. There=their. anywhere=anymore.
I need more coffee!
I don't know if the SSD designers share CU resources from other sources, but it's pretty obvious that they're sharing their own stuff and recycling it over and over and OVER again.
There are people at SSD who are known pirates, zacola3 being one of many.
What do you guys think of the people who were in the FPD design contest selling the free contest kits now? I think its so tacky.
zacola is a pirate? isnt she on the sight ct there?
Funny - when you view a member's profile @ DST - the people who last viewed the profile is missing. I call you out DST Daddy and/or Shannon for "fixing" this and becoming known that you read this blog!! Liars Liars Pants on Fire.
What do you guys think of the people who were in the FPD design contest selling the free contest kits now? I think its so tacky.
June 23, 2009 2:47 PM
Other sites like LDD and SA have been doing this for years.
the FPD design contest selling the free contest kits now? I think its so tacky.
June 23, 2009 2:47 PM
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Why? Designers do this all the time? It's free for a limited time and if someone missed the download they can buy it!
Funny - when you view a member's profile @ DST - the people who last viewed the profile is missing. I call you out DST Daddy and/or Shannon for "fixing" this and becoming known that you read this blog!! Liars Liars Pants on Fire.
June 23, 2009 2:49 PM
Yep.
Shannon's always been a liar and a hypocrite.
zacola is a pirate? isnt she on the sight ct there?
June 23, 2009 2:47 PM
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From what I heard from other people, she denied the entire thing. I don't know her so I don't know what is truth or what is a lie. It's obvious SSD must have believed her to keep her place on the creative team.
Yes. A lot of people who end up being pirates hang out at SSD. And a lot of said pirates are on those designers creative teams.
Yes. A lot of people who end up being pirates hang out at SSD. And a lot of said pirates are on those designers creative teams.
June 23, 2009 2:56 PM
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SUCH AS? WHO?
I call BS on the story posted above. I don't believe that SSD designers would share CU items. It doesn't make sense for a well known designer to steal because they will get caught. There kits are in the spotlight and a CU designer can put two and two together by noticing that the designer never purchased the product. Rachelscraps, a popular CU designer, hangs out at SSD. I think she would notice if someone was using her stuff without purchasing it first.
June 23, 2009 11:56 AM
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I call BS on your BS. First, Rachelscraps is not the only CU shop.
Second, who says it's legally purchased CU overlays? Some of the kits use background patterns from the kits of now retired designers that NEVER sold their product as CU.
Third, putting the CU usage totally aside - the same background patterns get used over and over and over even if they were originally generated by an SSD designer. Take MB for example, go look at the SSD kits before she joined and look at kits 3 months after she came.
They're like vampires. They attract new talent and then they're all re-using the same stuff to the point it becomes boring.
They're like vampires. They attract new talent and then they're all re-using the same stuff to the point it becomes boring.
June 23, 2009 3:35 PM
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But that's not pirating which is what the OP is trying to say that they do.
And no, rachelscraps isn't the only CU designer. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense that they would do something like that. If you really had something substantial you would have torn them to pieces already. And they wouldn't be designing any more. So stop stepping around the issue and come up with something concrete. oh wait, you can't because it's a bunch of BS!
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Show the proof if you are so familiar with these overlays? It sounds like BS to me. A lot of them reuse stuff all the time, like Melissa, Libby and Misty. But I haven't noticed the exact same items in different designers kits.
They're like vampires. They attract new talent and then they're all re-using the same stuff to the point it becomes boring.
June 23, 2009 3:35 PM
LOL, so true. I don't give a crap if they're sharing CU stuff or not. But they obviously share and reuse their own crap over and over.
Not an overlay, but a bird.
What about the felt bird in all 3 of these kits? These kits are all by 3 different designers. What CU sells that bird? Who "originally" made it?
http://sweetshoppedesigns.com/sweetshoppe/product.php?productid=17987&cat=0&page=4
http://sweetshoppedesigns.com/sweetshoppe/product.php?productid=18175&cat=0&page=1
http://sweetshoppedesigns.com/sweetshoppe/product.php?productid=17804&cat=0&page=2
I'm just a scrapper, but I can recolor something. This looks like the same felt bird just recoloured 3 different ways.
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That's not an example of piracy which is what the OP originally accused them of. That's them using a popular CU bird over and over.
Yes, they reuse. But so do most designers.
But I seriously doubt that they pool the cu stuff together and share with each other.
You know I *do* think it's obvious when there are new releases out from the "popular" designers when you take a look at the GSO thread at DST. But I don't think it's always deliberate pimping. I think it's friends and people with similar styles posting each other's pages b/c they like them. There may be a bunch that happen to use the same kit b/c they are on the same team or because they like the pages. But I don't think it's like "hey, I want to pimp my designer, so I'm going to post only those pages here today". I don't think it's that premeditated. No team I've ever been on has encouraged posting team member's pages in the GSO threads.
As for all this SSD talk/piracy talk or just piracy talk in general. I wish people would just NOT bother speaking up unless they have proof and know what the heck they are talking about. Anything less is innuendo and totally unreliable and potentially hurtful.
http://digiscrapwarehouse.com/xcart/commercial-use-product/tborges_designerpackage01.html
it's just an overused Thaty Borges CU item
LMAO! You actually think that MB would be willing to share her CU stuff with other designers for free? Trust me that ain't happenin'!
4:48, you are too naive to visit a smack blog, honey. And you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to recognize obvious pimping, day, after day, after day, after day. It's a bit much to expect people who see it to say "Oh my. What a strange coincidence."
I have a OT question, I am interested in starting a Digital Scrapbook store and would like to know how I would claim the income on my taxes? Also if I have others in the store do I have to claim their income to or just my own. If anyone could help me out I would be really appreciative.
Thank you
I've worked for Maya in the past, and found her very friendly and easy going. Not sure what's up with the hate? And btw ... she probablys sends 2 newsletters per year, that's the big issue that's crawling up your panties? Just delete it if you don't like it, like anyone with half a brain would do.
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I Agree! I get the SBG newsletter and I don't recall getting any Maya-specific mail recently. It's no big deal anyway...I get tons of newsletters and I simply delete the ones that don't interest me.
I have a OT question, I am interested in starting a Digital Scrapbook store and would like to know how I would claim the income on my taxes? Also if I have others in the store do I have to claim their income to or just my own. If anyone could help me out I would be really appreciative.
Thank you
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Not trying to be an ass here, but if you don't this you don't need to be starting a scrapbook store.
Not trying to be an ass here, but if you don't this you don't need to be starting a scrapbook store.
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And apparently I shouldn't be posting. Sorry, this should read 'if you don't know this'.
My point is running a store is not easy or cheap. The upfront costs can run into the thousands which you may not recover for quite some time. The time investment is also quite large. In other words, it's similar to any other small business with all of the tax implications and legal responsibilities to boot.
I'm not the one who requested shop information; however, I sometimes wish there was some type of business that I could start in the online digitalscrapping world.
I don't design or wish to & I wouldn't want to be tied down to running a store 24/7 either.
The paper scrap world has party plans & consultants but I haven't seen anything similar to that in the digital area.
The paper scrap world has party plans & consultants but I haven't seen anything similar to that in the digital area.
June 23, 2009 8:33 PM
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creative memories
Just as I thought. Not one ounce of hard proof of SSD designers sharing stuff. Not even a screen shot of the post that was brought up above.
Just as I thought. Not one ounce of hard proof of SSD designers sharing stuff. Not even a screen shot of the post that was brought up above.
June 23, 2009 9:02 PM
Yep. You win.
TheresK is back! What's your opinion about this?
I think Theres was treated apallingly considering her mistake was a tou misunderstanding.
Especially when you take into consideration that Anja J stole items from designers she was CTing for, included them in her kits and yet she is still selling at one of the stores Theres was outed from.
Explain that one to me !
I never did understand why she couldn't still sell overlays, so I am happy to see her back! Whether or not it was a misunderstanding, I just wouldn't buy extracted things from her anymore.
It never ceases to amaze me that all kinds of excuses are made for designers who are caught breaking copyright and/or pirating, yet let a scrapper have a 'TOU misunderstanding' and all kinds of wrath is rained down on them. Utter hypocrisy.
No shit. Hipocritical bitches.
So on a different note entirely, is anyone majorly excited about the Shabby Pickle Designer Call???
I XOXOXO SP!!!!!
Going to loose all sleep until I hear the results. Shouldn't get my hopes up to high though. :)
What sort of TOU misunderstanding did this TheresK have? (I'm suddenly worried if I've unwittingly done something wrong, heaven forbid)
So on a different note entirely, is anyone majorly excited about the Shabby Pickle Designer Call???
I XOXOXO SP!!!!!
Going to loose all sleep until I hear the results. Shouldn't get my hopes up to high though. :)
June 24, 2009 12:29 PM
I really hope this is a joke.
So on a different note entirely, is anyone majorly excited about the Shabby Pickle Designer Call???
I XOXOXO SP!!!!!
Going to loose all sleep until I hear the results. Shouldn't get my hopes up to high though. :)
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Not meaning to crash any bubbles here, but you shouldn't get any high hopes at all. This is just another marketing ploy. SP & A5D have already started swapping designers...look at Nikki Boudreau.
Not meaning to crash any bubbles here, but you shouldn't get any high hopes at all. This is just another marketing ploy. SP & A5D have already started swapping designers...look at Nikki Boudreau.
How is ONE designer leaving SP and going to A5 swapping designers?
I assume that since Nikki and Faith left, they have 2 spots open now.
Not meaning to crash any bubbles here, but you shouldn't get any high hopes at all. This is just another marketing ploy.
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Do you really thing Designers are a big marketing area for SP? It's not like they carry lots of CU items. That sounds like stretch to me.
I really hope this is a joke.
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LMAO! I guess you are NOT one of the excited ones. You don't think it's and awesome opportunity? I mean why would someone want to sell their designs at one of the most popular digital scrapbook sights right?
I'm hardly 'in the know' about which sites are the most popular but after reading DST threads from time to time I always thought that SP was one of the hip places to be.
If that's the case why did Faith True leave for SO? She's worked her way to being in the most popular stores. IOW, she's paid her dues, been drug through the mud a time or two & I was really glad to see her succeed in this business. I've only got one or two things of hers but I'm proud for her success. (If you've been around the digiscrapping world for longer than 2 years then you probably understand and remember the ridiculous thread about alphabet beads.)
But back to my question: Is SO a step up from SP? Just curious as to why she went strictly with one store.
Easy, SO doesn't have Laura Deceatis. That's a pretty big plus point.
LMAO! I guess you are NOT one of the excited ones. You don't think it's and awesome opportunity? I mean why would someone want to sell their designs at one of the most popular digital scrapbook sights right?
June 24, 2009 2:51 PM
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hmm, your spelling sure looks a lot like Laura DUNCEatis'
such an interesting coincidence
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What words are spelled wrong? And instead of an is the only thing I see, looks more like a typo than bad speller to me.
But back to my question: Is SO a step up from SP? Just curious as to why she went strictly with one store.
Not imho, I wondered why too.
What sort of TOU misunderstanding did this TheresK have? (I'm suddenly worried if I've unwittingly done something wrong, heaven forbid)
June 24, 2009 12:32 PM
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IMO, it wasn't a TOU misundersanding. It's too easy to put the blame on a language barrier. She bought handmade stuff on Etsy, photographed the items, extracted the images and sold them as CU for other designers. How could she possibly not know that was wrong. She took other people's creations and sold them as her own. And for CU! Anyway, I never understood the big hype about her overlays. Some of them are blurry, not all, but some. And no, I have nothing against her personally, I'm just really tired to see some designers (same things apply to scrappers) getting away with piracy (or copyright infringement). The message getting spread here is that you may pirate stuff, and a few months later, people will all forget about it and/or won't give a crap. *sigh*
Just curious as to why she went strictly with one store.
Some stores require you to be exclusive, no idea if that's the case here though.
Another reason could be each store has their own previews, it's a lot of work to do them, it takes me hours, maybe it's not worth the trouble to do them for more than one store.
She bought handmade stuff on Etsy, photographed the items, extracted the images and sold them as CU for other designers.
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Oh, I see. I thought she had violated TOU as a scrapper, not as a designer. Naturally I wondered what a scrapper could have done to violate TOU. I mean, you scrap, you save, you print & keep, or you print & give away. I wondered what I could be missing.
If that's the case why did Faith True leave for SO? She's worked her way to being in the most popular stores. IOW, she's paid her dues, been drug through the mud a time or two & I was really glad to see her succeed in this business. I've only got one or two things of hers but I'm proud for her success. (If you've been around the digiscrapping world for longer than 2 years then you probably understand and remember the ridiculous thread about alphabet beads.)
But back to my question: Is SO a step up from SP? Just curious as to why she went strictly with one store.
June 24, 2009 3:23 PM
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I'll answer the last question first. Being in more than one store is a PITA! It's really hard, especially if one of the other stores requires exclusive items, so no repeat uploadings.
I also think that Faith was a little lost over at SP towards the end. So many of the designers turned to fantasy, which Faith wasn't doing. The whole fantasy thing pissed me off as I liked what Kasia and Holly were doing before, now I don't buy from them. I like the fantasy kits but I also like the plain kits and the funky ones. I don't want a whole store filled with the same style though. What's the point of that?
Just because someone is a bad speller, doesn't make them stupid. Some schools tried memorization methods instead of phonics, it was an experiment gone bad. If they haven't memorized a word, there's no way for them to sound it out. I feel so sorry for them.
Oh, I see. I thought she had violated TOU as a scrapper, not as a designer. Naturally I wondered what a scrapper could have done to violate TOU. I mean, you scrap, you save, you print & keep, or you print & give away. I wondered what I could be missing.
June 24, 2009 4:57 PM
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You could be missing the scrappers who share kits. That's a violation of TOU.
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What words are spelled wrong? And instead of an is the only thing I see, looks more like a typo than bad speller to me.
June 24, 2009 4:09 PM
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How about sights instead of sites?
hmm, your spelling sure looks a lot like Laura DUNCEatis'
such an interesting coincidence
June 24, 2009 3:36 PM
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It is just a coincidence. Do you know how many people get that word wrong?
hmm, your spelling sure looks a lot like Laura DUNCEatis'
such an interesting coincidence
June 24, 2009 3:36 PM
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It is just a coincidence. Do you know how many people get that word wrong?
"I have a OT question, I am interested in starting a Digital Scrapbook store and would like to know how I would claim the income on my taxes? Also if I have others in the store do I have to claim their income to or just my own. If anyone could help me out I would be really appreciative.
Thank you"
You only claim the income you the store make - i.e. your commissions. You need to get a business license and you can select the entity - i.e. sole proprietorship, limited partnership, limited liability corporation, corporation, etc.
You need to purchase a program like Quickbooks and manage your sales and commission payments through here - this really helps with year end taxes. There is a Zen mod for QB - allowing direct download into QP from Zen. Its about $150.
It's not inexpensive to get a store up and running. Advertising is expensive - and this is a time consuming venture.
Before you open a business, create a business plan, know your budget for advertising, promotions, etc - and have a niche in mind.
ZenCart setups are about $200+, X-Cart much, much more.
Hope that helps.
Best of luck to you too!!
Did you notice that the GSO thread is closed today. Apparently people can't follow the rules, maybe they should just shut the thing down altogether.
Did anyone see this layout? Look at how many comments it got.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=688623
I have nothing against her personally, I'm just really tired to see some designers (same things apply to scrappers) getting away with piracy (or copyright infringement). The message getting spread here is that you may pirate stuff, and a few months later, people will all forget about it and/or won't give a crap. *sigh*
June 24, 2009 4:32 PM
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Too often, popularity and sharing of items in collabs is why pple in the community "forget". It's in their best interest, quite simply.
You can have proof of infringement and still end up with a "black eye". Look at the Iara/Chef fiasco. Markers clearly proved the "borrowing" yet many were nasty to the victim of the theft.
lol - someone will report it and it'll get deleted. i wonder how many of those were left without even really bothering to look at the layout. so many of them are just cut and paste..cut and paste - same ones over and over.
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You can have proof of infringement and still end up with a "black eye". Look at the Iara/Chef fiasco. Markers clearly proved the "borrowing" yet many were nasty to the victim of the theft.
More info please
I am glad the GSO is closed today. Aren't there new products at A5? Now I don't have to view all that pimping.
Would someone please explain why "scrap for others" is lumped with "scrap for hire"? Why would a scrapper need a license to create pages they're giving as gifts? I understand needing permission if you're earning money for it, but if you're just scrapping for others for kicks then where's the need for permission? Or does "scrap for others" mean something else?
Did anyone see this layout? Look at how many comments it got.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=688623
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well if she sent this in a text message on her phone she could be considered sexting and this could be considered pornography.
I'm not a prude but I really see no reason to put something like this up in a public gallery. It certainly should have parental controls on it and I don't know maybe I'm just weird but I see no beauty in someone grabbying ass.
s4o/s4h tends to get lumped together because people were using them to mean the same thing for so long.
ITA That layout is not beautiful at all. That doesn't belong in a gallery. That's just disgusting.
Thank you, 3:30. For a moment I was sure the world had gone mad. Well, madder anyway.
"...maybe I'm just weird but I see no beauty in someone grabbying ass."
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I might see the beauty if it were MY ass that looked that good! LOL But it doesn't. And I probably don't need to be reminded. Sigh.
ITA That layout is not beautiful at all. That doesn't belong in a gallery. That's just disgusting.
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I don't think it is disgusting but I completely agree that it doesn't belong in a regular gallery...
I personally don't like it as art either but it is WAY on the other side of the spectrum from where I scrap lol!
Did anyone see this layout? Look at how many comments it got.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=688623
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If you do not like it, report it, there is an option for it. I allready did about 12 hours ago, but the darn layout is still there. I do not get this at all and have added the designer to my blacklist, if she allows her CTM to add those kind of layouts as promotion I'm no buyer any longer.
I reckon it must hurt how he digs his fingers like that. I'd be biting him if he did it to me (course he'd have a lot more to dig into than the lady in the photo can offer).
Meantime, as another reason to hate this layout, can we assume it's a stock photo? LOL
y'all just hate it because she has a hot ass.
It is totally a stock photo, no doubt.
Did anybody save a copy of the layout? Because it is gone now and I am nosy.
"Exactly! CU resources are being shared. I know because I am on the team. Without being exposed (because I need the money and cant really lose the money I make that puts food on my table)I'll be vague. All I can say is that although it isn't clearly stated somewhere that we should share there was a post a few months back that turned into a discussion about using CU items. One designer joked about using another design team members cu item during a collab kit (an overlay by a popular SA artist) saying how it was no big deal since they worked on the same collection. Well, one designer spoke up saying how she thought it was very wrong but was immediately shot down by Manda, a long time designer, who replied saying we should all grow some balls. The thread never got another reply and that was the end of that. Since I have been there I have never felt welcome by this designer (Manda). She seems to be the bully of the team and Robin protects her. Between the sharing and pushing to make as many kits as possible each week I have truly lost my love for design and all I can hope for is that another opportunity comes my way soon, making the same good money."
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You're full of shit! I happen to be a CU designer and I can say that NONE of the SSD designers mis-use my products, and ALL of them are my customers!!! They all shell out BIG BUCKS for products of mine and use them for their own use.
Stop making up stories about good people just because you're jealous! Pathetic!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Would someone please explain why "scrap for others" is lumped with "scrap for hire"? Why would a scrapper need a license to create pages they're giving as gifts? I understand needing permission if you're earning money for it, but if you're just scrapping for others for kicks then where's the need for permission? Or does "scrap for others" mean something else?
June 25, 2009 3:12 PM
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S4H and Scrap For Others are the same thing - making layouts for payment.
Scrapping layouts as gifts is not in the same class and you don't need permission to use anything for that purpose.
OMG OMG OMG!!! Christina Renee is back!! yayayayayay!!! omg I'm so excited!
You're full of shit! I happen to be a CU designer and I can say that NONE of the SSD designers mis-use my products, and ALL of them are my customers!!! They all shell out BIG BUCKS for products of mine and use them for their own use.
Stop making up stories about good people just because you're jealous! Pathetic!!!!
June 25, 2009 5:01 PM
Take your chill pill Rachel. You're insane.
I'm not a prude
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That's just disgusting.
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Wow, I just don't what to say to this. That layout was disgusting? You're not a prude, but? Give me a break. It's some chick's ass, big deal. We all have 'em, although admittedly mine doesn't look like that either.
With that said, I would agree that it was tacky, especially since it is so clearly a stock photo as well(at least I hope it was).
It was a chick's ass sitting on a naked guy in a sexual position and he was grabbing her ass hard. Does it really need to be at DST?
What would all you crows do without something to whine about?
It was a chick's ass sitting on a naked guy in a sexual position and he was grabbing her ass hard. Does it really need to be at DST?
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I didn't see it @DST before they deleted it from the gallery. But based on the above description, it looks like this one @MSA
http://www.myscrapbookart.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=168606&ppuser=2583
That layout cracks me up! The title "Every life is precious" sounds like a baby page, doesn't it? Not a sexual type page! lol!
That's exactly what I thought - it's a page about making a baby! LOL
OMG OMG OMG!!! Christina Renee is back!! yayayayayay!!! omg I'm so excited!
Are you just being a smartass?
I didn't see it @DST before they deleted it from the gallery. But based on the above description, it looks like this one @MSA
http://www.myscrapbookart.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=168606&ppuser=2583
Yep, that's it. What does it mean when a layout has 4 pages of praise at DST and none at MSA? lol
fwiw-I think it's pretty disgusting too. Why would anyone think it was ok to post that in a public gallery where kids browse?
Thanks for the link @ MSA. It's certainly not as bad as my mind was conjuring, LOL.
Signed, 4.55PM Nosy Gal
You're full of shit! I happen to be a CU designer and I can say that NONE of the SSD designers mis-use my products, and ALL of them are my customers!!! They all shell out BIG BUCKS for products of mine and use them for their own use.
Stop making up stories about good people just because you're jealous! Pathetic!!!!
June 25, 2009 5:01 PM
You are so stupid. First of all, I call BS that ALL the SSD designers buy from you. Whatever. Even if some or all of them did, you have no way of knowing if and what they misuse or don't misuse. The best you could say is that you don't know of them misusing any of YOUR stuff.
Nice try, assclown.
I see nothing "disgusting" about that layout on MSA. I don't know if its the same one as DST, but for one thing - the woman isn't sitting "on" the guy as previously quoted. She is kneeling in front of him face to face - and they are in an embrace.
If witnessing a man and woman embracing is a disgusting thing for a child to see, your world is really upside down. What do you rather a child see? Men and woman who never touch with affection or perhaps they should grow up knowing more about Sponge Bob's weird world than how beautiful love is?
Grow up. You are no longer in the sixth grade and need to snigger and blush in the back of the class at the very idea of sex.
She's not just kneeling in front of him. Her legs are clearly inbetween his spread legs. There's nothing wrong with it but I don't think it needs to be in general scrapbooking galleries.
Grow up. You are no longer in the sixth grade and need to snigger and blush in the back of the class at the very idea of sex.
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No, I am not in the sixth grade but I have a kid who is and she looks at the galleries quite a bit...does she really need to see a bare ass naked lady getting her ass grabbed?
Disgusting is too strong but disturbing in a scrapbooking gallery full of family photos and such?
Even if some or all of them did, you have no way of knowing if and what they misuse or don't misuse. The best you could say is that you don't know of them misusing any of YOUR stuff.
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Hey asswipe, you have no way of knowing either unless you can put up some proof which is yet to happen. You have something real then post it! At least that poster can say that they aren't sharing her stuff and that's more information than you provide!
bout the "sexy" layout. eh..not that graphic and did you see the person that did it? she's from poland. aren't they a little more free and open about that stuff in europe?
that being said i think the lo in general sucks..i absolutely hate obvious ct pimping by using stock, least people could try to do is explain how/why they did the design they did instead of JUST posting the kit name.
I've been away. Is there any info on Melanie Colosimo and why she is banned? I met her a long time ago at a different site and she ran a recipe swap. I thought she was so nice. Has there been gossip about her that i have missed somewhere?
The sexy layout has been removed from DST and MSA. I didn't see it but it must have been inappropriate. We don't know if the stores had it removed or if the creator removed it herself.
If anyone knows about Melanie they're not sayin'.
She's always been great to me & I've never seen anything negative on DST about her. I can't imagine what led up to her to being banned. Something just doesn't seem right with that situation.
I agree about something not being right. Melanie was always very positive and nice. Last I checked, she's still at OScraps, so I think she'd not still be selling there if she had been caught pirating.
Melanie's last blog post was in March, her last posts at DST were in March, the last upload in her designer gallery at OScraps was in March. The shop doesn't show upload dates for the products so I can't tell if she has added any new products lately.
Strange indeed.
I really can't imagine Melanie doing ANYTHING ban worthy, I mean, I know we don't KNOW her but, she is the absolute last person I would expect to do anything wrong.
Melanie, if you're reading, feel free to explain your side. Hugs.
So, let me ask you all. If you were banned, would you ever go back to the site?
I see people there and I just can't believe they keep posting. I would be so humiliated I would crawl into a hole and stay there or at least get a new identity. lol
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