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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1394 Newer› Newest»I have known designers that are still part of DSP and some that are not. Catty doesn't even describe some of the backstabbing that goes on there. I've heard that Lauren likes to tell the newer designers that they are copying her.
I have to agree with one of the above posters. I completely avoid DSP not only because most of their stuff is well....ugly...but also because of the way they treat their newer designers.
If you all wanna work to fill the top "dogs" pockets, more power to ya. You wanna see "corporate greed" at it's best......
A non-compete clause is pretty standard in any designer contract. In digiland or elsewhere. I guess it depends on how professional your store is....
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Is this the load of crap that they spew to you. Sounds a little like brainwashing.
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28 days and counting to judge the scrappers choice awards? not that I have personal investment; but wow that is excessive isn't it?
May 27, 2009 10:00 AM
I wonder if those poor ladies that participated will ever see the results. If Amy couldn't email the specific customers, how on earth will she ever be able to compile all those results?
Is this the load of crap that they spew to you. Sounds a little like brainwashing.
May 27, 2009 9:47 PM
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it must be! Along with their silly little "contract".
Thankfully I sell at a very professional store and get to keep a huge percentage of my money. The other tiny bit only goes to the store owner.
Not jane, sally, susy and harry whoever that is "above" me.
Come over to the real side and keep your money DSP designers!!!
They are good designers whether you like their stuff or not!
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I completely disagree--that's certainly your opinion but not mine. I can absolutely say that I don't think they are good designers if I don't like their designs.
Gee, I am a designer at a store that does fairly well and I didn't (nor would I have) signed a non-compete agreement with them. Thanks, DSP, for telling me that the store I sell for is unprofessional!
Good to know how you really feel. I don't do a whole lot of shopping since I make mostly my own stuff, but I'll definitely NEVER be coming to your uppity, smarmy ass store again (oops, sorry was that unprofessional?). I'll stick with a "SAHM" store any day over your sorry ass.
Shitheads...
May 27, 2009 9:44 PM
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Nice... so someone mentiones that non-compete clauses are common and professional on an anon blog and it automatically means DSP is posting it?
Sounds like someone struck a nerve! Very defensive sounding..
Non compete clauses are not legal is some states.
Many companies have non compete clauses. Some are enforceable some aren't. It all depends on the agreement and on facts and circumstances.
No one has to work at at store that has a non compete agreement. There are many digi scrap stores out there and designers are free to work in the environment that they chose. But they are not necessarily lame nor are they illegal.
I so completely and utterly disagree with you! There may be other stores that do this, I don't know, but in general non-competes are utter bullshit used by crappy employeers as a modern version of forced servitude. They're illegal and unenforceable in a number of states here in the US for good reason- they're complete crap. Tell me how it's fair to someone to say- Sorry, know you want to leave but you can't make a living or feed your family for the next 6 months if you do.
May 27, 2009 9:38 PM
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Umm, non-compete isn't the same as not making a living. There are more ways to make a living than design in a digital scrapbook store believe it or not! ROFL
I am not a designer. Just a regular scrapper. I left DSP because of the attitude. You can't talk about any other site. When I was there, it was because I had no idea any other digi-scrapping site existed. Then I saw how they treated certain designers who were really very good, but made the mistake of questioning the powers-that-be. The only reason drama doesn't exist there is because they delete any post they don't like. Then they make up stories that put them in a better light. Ask the designers who did leave.
But they sign it when it they sign on? Seems like they can't really complain! They didn't have to sell at that store nor sign the contract.
May 27, 2009 9:44 PM
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Exactly! They must feel it is worth it to sign the contract. Why would you do so otherwise?
I have known designers that are still part of DSP and some that are not. Catty doesn't even describe some of the backstabbing that goes on there. I've heard that Lauren likes to tell the newer designers that they are copying her.
May 27, 2009 9:45 PM
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Hello Irene
Hi DSP designers.
Umm, non-compete isn't the same as not making a living. There are more ways to make a living than design in a digital scrapbook store believe it or not! ROFL
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You could, but why should you HAVE to?
Pretty dumb argument if you ask me. I could be homeless or not pay taxes or run red lights, too, but those are probably not things I want to do either.
from wikipedia
The majority of U.S. states recognize and enforce various forms of non-compete agreements. A few states, such as California, totally ban or prohibit non-compete agreements except in limited circumstances. For this reason, non-compete agreements have been popular among companies with employees working in states where they are allowed. They are very common among commercial radio stations, especially for radio personalities working for media conglomerates.
I've been around this community quite a while and I have never heard a designer have anything good to say about DSP. I've heard they have 6 month non-compete clauses for all their designers and pay really, really low commissions relative to everyone else.
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I call BS! If that were true, why are they one of the very few stores that has managed to keep their designers for years and years? Designers that were selling there three or four years ago are still selling there. ScrapGirls is one of the few other stores I know about that can claim that track record.
Besides, I've been around for awhile too and I've never heard of any designer complain about DSP.
You could, but why should you HAVE to?
Pretty dumb argument if you ask me. I could be homeless or not pay taxes or run red lights, too, but those are probably not things I want to do either.
May 27, 2009 10:01 PM
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No one said you did have to, you don't like it, don't design there, simple! Why is it such an issue?
MOST of the newer designers come straight from DSP and don't really know of all the other stores that exist out there. Ruby Rynne and Robyn Gough are the only two who willingly went there after selling in other stores in recent history.
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28 days and counting to judge the scrappers choice awards? not that I have personal investment; but wow that is excessive isn't it?
May 27, 2009 10:00 AM
I wonder if those poor ladies that participated will ever see the results. If Amy couldn't email the specific customers, how on earth will she ever be able to compile all those results?
May 27, 2009 9:47 PM
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LOL!
Ask the designers who did leave.
May 27, 2009 9:57 PM
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Designers who leave aren't always the best source of information...
There are always to sides to any story...
I call BS! If that were true, why are they one of the very few stores that has managed to keep their designers for years and years? Designers that were selling there three or four years ago are still selling there. ScrapGirls is one of the few other stores I know about that can claim that track record.
Besides, I've been around for awhile too and I've never heard of any designer complain about DSP.
May 27, 2009 10:03 PM
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Very good points, and I have been around the scene quite a few years and I have to agree, I have NEVER head any designer complain about DSP.
I have known designers that are still part of DSP and some that are not. Catty doesn't even describe some of the backstabbing that goes on there. I've heard that Lauren likes to tell the newer designers that they are copying her.
May 27, 2009 9:45 PM
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LOL!! I'm not Irene. I'm just a lowly customer that was friends with some of the designers.
May 27, 2009 8:56 PM
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If your commissions are lower but you sell more, you still win right?
A non-compete clause is pretty standard in any designer contract. In digiland or elsewhere. I guess it depends on how professional your store is....
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Nice... so someone mentiones that non-compete clauses are common and professional on an anon blog and it automatically means DSP is posting it?
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So in the context of the original post, you're telling me this wasn't from someone at DSP? Right.... I've got a brige in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you, too...
WOW the DSP posse has arrived. FYI: You are NOT helping your store by coming here and acting like idiots.
So in the context of the original post, you're telling me this wasn't from someone at DSP? Right.... I've got a brige in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you, too...
May 27, 2009 10:13 PM
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How much? ROFL
I'm not even associated with DSP, not that anyone will believe me, I just call BS when I see it. Doesn't matter who or what it is.
WOW the DSP posse has arrived. FYI: You are NOT helping your store by coming here and acting like idiots.
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Seriously funny. The truth comes out.
I call BS! If that were true, why are they one of the very few stores that has managed to keep their designers for years and years? Designers that were selling there three or four years ago are still selling there.
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because of the non-compete, you dumb shit.
if this store really IS as successful as you all claim and the designers are making money.... chances are they NEED that money to support their households. so yeah, if leaving means they can't sell anywhere for an extended (and ridiculous) period of time, then they're not going to leave. if DSP is SO confident that they're designers are there because the want to be... then why don't they drop the non-compete and see how fast their design team "vacates the premises" (i believe the saying is "like bats out of hell").
no they have a non-compete because they know they're assholes and they know their designs will leave if they don't trap them there.
WOW the DSP posse has arrived. FYI: You are NOT helping your store by coming here and acting like idiots.
May 27, 2009 10:14 PM
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I don't really see anyone here acting like idiots, except for maybe the person who likes to call people shitheads because they do not agree.
No one has to work at at store that has a non compete agreement. There are many digi scrap stores out there and designers are free to work in the environment that they chose. But they are not necessarily lame nor are they illegal.
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Agreed you don't have to sign the contract, but these things have a tendency to pretty damn legalistic and confusing. Maybe DSP is very upfront about it, maybe not, but either way non-competes are COMPLETE crap. What are you so afraid of that you have to have someone sign a non-compete? I still haven't heard a good explanation for why DSP seems to feel this is necessary.
28 days and counting to judge the scrappers choice awards? not that I have personal investment; but wow that is excessive isn't it?
May 27, 2009 10:00 AM
I wonder if those poor ladies that participated will ever see the results. If Amy couldn't email the specific customers, how on earth will she ever be able to compile all those results?
May 27, 2009 9:47 PM
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I wasn't are that Amy ran DST, I thought it was Shannon. This response would have been way funnier if had anything to do with Amy, but it doesn't, so you just look lame.
WOW the DSP posse has arrived. FYI: You are NOT helping your store by coming here and acting like idiots.
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yeah and apparently we've hit a nerve... seems like they're a wee bit defensive
because of the non-compete, you dumb shit.
if this store really IS as successful as you all claim and the designers are making money.... chances are they NEED that money to support their households. so yeah, if leaving means they can't sell anywhere for an extended (and ridiculous) period of time, then they're not going to leave. if DSP is SO confident that they're designers are there because the want to be... then why don't they drop the non-compete and see how fast their design team "vacates the premises" (i believe the saying is "like bats out of hell").
no they have a non-compete because they know they're assholes and they know their designs will leave if they don't trap them there.
May 27, 2009 10:17 PM
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Wow, vindictive much?
because of the non-compete, you dumb shit.
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I wasn't aware that six months translated into four years, but as I'm a dumb shit and you are so intelligent, you sure told me.
yeah and apparently we've hit a nerve... seems like they're a wee bit defensive
May 27, 2009 10:19 PM
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Seriously..?
THIS sounds defensive...
because of the non-compete, you dumb shit.
if this store really IS as successful as you all claim and the designers are making money.... chances are they NEED that money to support their households. so yeah, if leaving means they can't sell anywhere for an extended (and ridiculous) period of time, then they're not going to leave. if DSP is SO confident that they're designers are there because the want to be... then why don't they drop the non-compete and see how fast their design team "vacates the premises" (i believe the saying is "like bats out of hell").
no they have a non-compete because they know they're assholes and they know their designs will leave if they don't trap them there.
May 27, 2009 10:17 PM
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WOW the DSP posse has arrived. FYI: You are NOT helping your store by coming here and acting like idiots.
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WOW, I didn't know that you could see who the anon posters are. I'm so impressed, NOT!
WOW the DSP posse has arrived. FYI: You are NOT helping your store by coming here and acting like idiots.
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They did show up pretty quickly, didn't they? Maybe more people are reading this blog than I thought...
If the non-compete clause is as useless as some of you say, do you really think someone would let that stop them from leaving if they really wanted to go?
Just because they have a non-compete, doesn't mean you can't contest it and doesn't mean you wouldn't leave if you hated it that much.
It sure as hell wouldn't stop me!
WOW, I didn't know that you could see who the anon posters are. I'm so impressed, NOT!
May 27, 2009 10:22 PM
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Ha! Too funny! ;-)
They did show up pretty quickly, didn't they? Maybe more people are reading this blog than I thought...
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Alot of people read the blog, most won't admit to it though.
ok there are two different issues here-
one is a non-compete on products sold at the store-
say a store wants to say you can't sell the same PRODUCT that you sold in their store, in another store, for a set amount of time.
then there is a full non-compete. the store says, you can't work at all. you can't sell new products, you can't sell old products, you just flat out can not earn any money by any means in this industry for a set period of time.
if a store wants to say you can't sell the same products at another store, for some amount of time, i can almost understand that.
but to say that you can't make money, i.e. prevent you from earning a living doing what you do best, that is 100% bull shit. i'm sorry. you can't argue that THAT kind of non-compete is reasonable.
and btw, when OTHER industries have non-competes like this, they PAY large amounts of money to the people WHO CAN NOT EARN A LIVING during the time of the non-compete.
does DSP give severance to the designers when they leave to help off set the fact that they can't work?
NO.
the reason why these OTHER industries pay a severance is because the non-compete is not MEANT to be ABUSIVE and INTIMIDATING. it's meant to protect their interest.
DSP is a bully.... straight up.
DSP is a bully.... straight up.
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ITA!
regarding a non-compete. Why not just quit and come back with a new name? It's all the rage these days. ;)
It's hard to know who is saying what on an anonymous blog. But I'm curious as to who is actually doing all the complaining about the non compete agreement.
If you are a current designer then why complain? You knew what you were signing when you went into it. If you are now not happy with an agreement that you willingly signed that is your problem not DSP's.
If you are not a designer there then why complain? It really isn't any of your business. If you hate the idea of a non compete agreement then obviously you wouldn't look at DSP as a place to sell your designs.
If you are a former designer it really is pretty tacky to complain about a former employer. It really says more about you than the employer you are complaining about.
I'm not a designer and I'm not from DSP. I just think that what DSP and their designers agree to is their business not anyone elses.
I am not a designer. Just a regular scrapper. I left DSP because of the attitude. You can't talk about any other site. When I was there, it was because I had no idea any other digi-scrapping site existed. Then I saw how they treated certain designers who were really very good, but made the mistake of questioning the powers-that-be. The only reason drama doesn't exist there is because they delete any post they don't like. Then they make up stories that put them in a better light. Ask the designers who did leave.
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i had the same experience. i first found DSP because of a google search and i didn't realize there were other stores. i actually never bought anything there because their stuff is just kinda ugly. but i did get some freebies and i looked around the forum. then i did another search and found shabby princess and i was out of there. i think that's how they get people to stay, but not letting them mention that there's a whole nother digi-scrap world out there and there are designers who actually make some good shit.
also, i'm not sure if they changed it, but at the time, all their stuff was 200 dpi, so everytime i tried to move it in to a 300 dpi file, it was all off.
Wow, vindictive much?
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I actually don't have anything against DSP one way or the other, but I really, really HATE non-compete agreements and since they are using them, I by default am not a big fan. Occasionally (and very, very rarely) they are used correctly (typically in the tech industry for trade secrets or against executives who have insider knowledge that could be damaging), but in a case like this they seem more like a bullying tactic than anything. I'm pretty sure a designer at DSP doesn't have any trade secrets or insider knowledge that would be problemaic for DSP if they went to another store. As such, IANAL, but I'm pretty sure their non-compete would be thrown on it's ear by most any judge, problem is it'll cost a designer a pretty penny in legal fees to find out.
why do WE care if they have a non-compete? Seriously? The DSP designer chose to sign it in the first place. It's not like they kindly convinced them to design for them and then chained them to the wall. Surprise! You can't leave now! They know it going in.
I wouldn't sign one. PERIOD. I don't care what store it is. I would want the option to walk if shit like what happened at A5 occurs.
(I'm not a designer. Just sayin')
If you are a former designer it really is pretty tacky to complain about a former employer. It really says more about you than the employer you are complaining about.
I'm not a designer and I'm not from DSP. I just think that what DSP and their designers agree to is their business not anyone elses.
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it's tacky to complain on this blog? then wtf are you doing here?
and as for you not being a designer or from DSP... do you think just by saying it we're gonna believe it? the only people defending DSP are people from DSP. why would someone not related to DSP defend them? especially since that would mean, they really didn't know what they were talking about-
hey guys, i know absolutely nothing about this site or anyone one this site, i'm just talking out of my ass right now, but i think they're just the bees knees!!!
why would someone not related to DSP defend them?
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some of us enjoying arguing to see you idiots get all hot and bothered over stupid stuff.
How many more days do we have to wait for the Scrapper's Choice Awards. Seriously?
I wouldn't sign one. PERIOD. I don't care what store it is. I would want the option to walk if shit like what happened at A5 occurs.
(I'm not a designer. Just sayin')
May 27, 2009 10:35 PM
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Umm signing a non-compete doesn't mean you can't leave! I suspect it would be pretty easy to contest the non-compete if something like that happened.
why do WE care if they have a non-compete? Seriously? The DSP designer chose to sign it in the first place. It's not like they kindly convinced them to design for them and then chained them to the wall. Surprise! You can't leave now! They know it going in.
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ITA. but i would also expect a certain level of professionalism from a store owner and a site. but from what i've heard, they're very nasty there and they don't treat their designers very well at all. so i can see both sides. the designer shouldn't have signed it, but that doesn't give DSP the right to treat them poorly just because they're trapped.
How many more days do we have to wait for the Scrapper's Choice Awards. Seriously?
May 27, 2009 10:40 PM
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Ask what's her face at DST. You asked once on here already and your post was ignored. Get the hint?
some of us enjoying arguing to see you idiots get all hot and bothered over stupid stuff.
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so what you're saying is
you're arguments are bullshit and you just want to stir the pot? ok- then we're all agreed, DSP sucks, let's move on.
How many more days do we have to wait for the Scrapper's Choice Awards. Seriously?
May 27, 2009 10:40 PM
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Ask what's her face at DST. You asked once on here already and your post was ignored. Get the hint?
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Well dear bitch, that wasn't me who asked the first time.
from what i've heard, they're very nasty there and they don't treat their designers very well at all.
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So you are basing this on a rumor and really no proof? Seriously?
from what i've heard, they're very nasty there and they don't treat their designers very well at all.
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So you are basing this on a rumor and really no proof? Seriously?
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Not rumor, FACT.
I really don't get the big deal, DSP even mention their non-compete clause on their website, it is not like they slap it on their designers without them knowing, it is all right there for everyone to see before you even submit an application. It seems to me they are pretty up front about it, if they are up front, it is unlikely it is a scare tactic don't you think?
http://www.digitalscrapbookplace.com/company/designerinfo.shtml
You don't know who I am so it doesn't matter to me what you believe. But I'm just saying that I am not coming from DSP, that doesn't mean that I don't know anything about them. I started with DSP back in 2003 and stayed there for years. I know quite a bit about them. I have branched out and don't really go there anymore. I don't have any grudges against them. If they have non compete agreements I don't have a problem with that either.
So you are basing this on a rumor and really no proof? Seriously?
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of course. their shit was so ugly, i didn't wait around to find out if they're shining personalities were going to win me over.
Well dear bitch, that wasn't me who asked the first time.
May 27, 2009 10:44 PM
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Thanks for the compliment. I take pride in my bitchiness! But you read it and didn't get the hint. Doesn't matter if it was you or not. Go ask Shannon.
Not rumor, FACT.
May 27, 2009 10:46 PM
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FACT huh... back it up then
I just love all the people who are saying 'from what I've heard'. That's just so much BS, unless it happened to you, what you heard doesn't mean a damn thing. For instance, I heard that NY was an ugly, dirty city full of mean and nasty people. Guess what? I got there and it was a great place. It was clean and the people were friendly. It's a good thing that I don't believe everything I hear and I prefer to make my own judgments based on my experience.
Not rumor, FACT.
May 27, 2009 10:46 PM
FROM WHERE? DISH!
Remember, dear. I heard it from a friend usually means it is a rumor!
why would someone not related to DSP defend them?
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I'm defending the right for any company to operate as they see fit.
why do WE care if they have a non-compete? Seriously? The DSP designer chose to sign it in the first place. It's not like they kindly convinced them to design for them and then chained them to the wall. Surprise! You can't leave now! They know it going in.
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Apparently you've never been subject to a non-compete agreement. I have (and no it wasn't at DSP or even in this industry). I took a sales job almost straight out of college that had a non-compete and didn't really know any better (they told me it was a 'standard' form, no big deal, won't be an issue, etc.). Long story short, I wanted to leave as I hated the employer and eventually did, but had to go work in a compeletely unrelated field for a year. Totally, totally sucked. My point is- if DSP is completely upfront with their designers about the whole non-compete thing for 6 months and have a semi-legitimate reason for it, then fine, but from what I've heard that isn't really the case.
of course. their shit was so ugly, i didn't wait around to find out if they're shining personalities were going to win me over.
May 27, 2009 10:47 PM
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This is a great reason for YOU not to shop there!
But to do it because you hear something through the grapevine is petty & childish!
if they are up front, it is unlikely it is a scare tactic don't you think?
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good point. i don't think it's a scare tactic, necessarily. i just think it's unnecessary if you are a respectful store with a positive attitude toward your designers. it seems like- if you treat your people right, you don't need to try to punish them for trying to leave, because they won't. i think the non-compete just speaks more to how they treat their design team and i agree with the poster above, if they're so great (and they may very well be) why would they have this clause?
For instance, I heard that NY was an ugly, dirty city full of mean and nasty people.
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Apparently you never went there in the 80s....
DSP is completely upfront with their designers about the whole non-compete thing for 6 months and have a semi-legitimate reason for it, then fine, but from what I've heard that isn't really the case.
May 27, 2009 10:50 PM
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If it is in the contract, then they are being completely upfront about it.
but from what I've heard that isn't really the case.
May 27, 2009 10:50 PM
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Heard from who exactly?? Your next door neighbour?? Seriously??
I heard that NY was an ugly, dirty city full of mean and nasty people. Guess what? I got there and it was a great place. It was clean and the people were friendly.
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I ditto that. I was absolutely thrilled that NY wasn't anything like I had heard.
But to do it because you hear something through the grapevine is petty & childish!
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lady, everything about this blog is based on rumor and speculation. seriously... what the fuck are you doing here (posting anonymously might i add) if you're so above all this petty & childish behavior?
Apparently you never went there in the 80s....
May 27, 2009 10:52 PM
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Goes to show that place can change too!
lady, everything about this blog is based on rumor and speculation. seriously... what the fuck are you doing here (posting anonymously might i add) if you're so above all this petty & childish behavior?
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LMFAO! ITA!
of course. their shit was so ugly, i didn't wait around to find out if they're shining personalities were going to win me over.
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LOL!
I guess there is not much going on in digi land if all there is to smack is a store like DSP.
I have personal talked with at least 5 designers that I have left DSP. ALl of them were very unhappy at how the "behind the scenes" were run. All had very similar stories. All were scared to challenge the non-compete since DSP threatened legal action when they quit.
if you're so above all this petty & childish behavior?
May 27, 2009 10:54 PM
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That's the best response you got? Sheesh. I haven't read that one before. So original!
I'm here to rub all of you assholes the wrong way so you realize that you aren't all that either!
Damn typos, let me try that again.
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I have personally talked with at least 5 designers that have left DSP. ALL of them were very unhappy at how the "behind the scenes" were run. All had very similar stories. All were scared to challenge the non-compete since DSP threatened legal action when they quit.
you aren't all that either!
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and that's the best you got? well 1995 called and their smack down back (and they said don't forget to send the bag of chips, too)
I disagree and like a lot of things that Lauren, Kim and Nicole make. I have things I bought years ago and still use. On the other hand I went over to A5D today after reading the smack about them and didn't like what I saw there. So to each their own.
All were scared to challenge the non-compete since DSP threatened legal action when they quit.
May 27, 2009 10:57 PM
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meh. I just would've got a new design name.
and that's the best you got? well 1995 called and their smack down back (and they said don't forget to send the bag of chips, too)
May 27, 2009 10:59 PM
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LOL! OK that was a good one!
If it is in the contract, then they are being completely upfront about it.
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Still doesn't make it right. A lot of things are in contracts that probably shouldn't be. I still have yet to see a valid reason for WHY exactly DSP feels a need to have a non-compete from their designers? Trade secret? Afraid they'll still your customers? What possible reason could there be (whether it's known upfront or not)? I stand by my stance that non-competes are morally wrong (not to mention illegal or unenforceable in some states).
I guess I just don't care that much for "designer rights". They're adults and can figure out that contract stuff for themselves.
But I don't shop at DSP anyway.
I was always turned off by the 200 dpi issue. And now I just don't care that they offer 300 dpi. They just don't suit my style!
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I have personally talked with at least 5 designers that have left DSP. ALL of them were very unhappy at how the "behind the scenes" were run. All had very similar stories. All were scared to challenge the non-compete since DSP threatened legal action when they quit.
May 27, 2009 10:59 PM
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Scared? What are they; five years old? Seriously. They are, I assume, grown women and in a business. If the can't handle the business aspects, then they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.
My desire to stay at DSP has nothing to do with a contract,
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you are either the owner of this shitty store or a complete idiot. I know several designers in this store, who signed that contract not knowing that this non-compete clause was *not* standard in the industry and then they were trapped, and they're miserable!
it's like the store that says other stores "stole" their designers... if you want to keep good designers, build a good store. don't force them to stay because of a shitty contract, and don't whine when other *better* stores take them.
dsp is laughable if it weren't so sad what they do to their designers.
WV = dozedis
if i sign this contract DOZE-DIS mean I'm stuck here forever? no! it doesn't - get the hell out while you can!
I just noticed this at A5, I wonder if that last sentence was always there or if its a new addition?
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from what i've heard, they're very nasty there and they don't treat their designers very well at all.
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So you are basing this on a rumor and really no proof? Seriously?
May 27, 2009 10:45 PM
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Rumor???? Look at how you are behaving here!!! Fact! You should all go back to your wonderful, happy, loving DSP shop and stop the drama here. It is VERY nasty and ugly!
Rumor???? Look at how you are behaving here!!! Fact! You should all go back to your wonderful, happy, loving DSP shop and stop the drama here. It is VERY nasty and ugly!
May 27, 2009 11:33 PM
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Yeah good plan, might just do that.
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DSP is a bully.... straight up.
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ITA!
May 27, 2009 10:28 PM
Another ITA! here. DSP has not represented themselves in a good light here at all.
Heard my name was being mentioned so thought I had better come see what was going on.
Yes I joined the DSP team and have been designing for over 4 years now and have been around the community long enough to have a pretty good idea of what happens. I signed that non-compete clause because I felt it was worth it. DSP was one of the first and few digiscrap communities around when I first started digiscrapping and was my first digiscrapping home. I left to design elsewhere and now I am very happy to be back as a designer.
I truely believe DSP designers are amongst the best around and I am proud to be part of the team at DSP. So shoot me. What is so bad about being proud of who you work for and with?
Any work place will have ex-employees with sour grapes, that is just the way life works. Stuff happens, no-where is all sunshine and roses.
I can honestly say that in the time I have been at DSP, there have certainly not been any scare tactics or poor treatment of designers. I have been treated extremely well at DSP and plan on staying there for a very long time.
There have been no problems with anyone accusing me of copying and I met Lauren in person this month along with Margie & Allen the owners, and Erica as well.
You know what, they are all regular everyday people who are perfectly nice and friendly and nothing like the monsters some of you make them out to be. Spending time with them all felt like spending time with family.
I have no regrets joining the DSP team and plan on staying there for a very long time. It is a great fit for me.
Carry on. ;-)
Some of you will like the designs there, some of you won't that is just another part of life. Each to their own. I like it there, I like my sales there, I like the people there and I love designing there. If you don't feel the same, well that is your choice.
WTG Robyn. I have no idea why so many people are getting their panties in a bunch about whether or not some stores have their designers sign a non-compete clause. What the heck business is it of theirs? Are they ripping of their customers? No! Are they ripping off their designers? No, they aren't, not that I've heard from an actual designer past or present. The past designers who were trapped or hated it haven't posted about it, it's all just hearsay from other people.
How else could she respond but positive?
How else could she respond but positive?
May 28, 2009 12:18 AM
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Ummm, she could not respond at all!
bla bla bla... yada yada yada... we are the best... we're so stupid... bla bla bla...
move on
WV diesse
I wish that ugly ass site DSP would diesse.
Clikchic said:
"I left to design elsewhere and now I am very happy to be back as a designer."
I know this is none of my business, but with the big discussion about non-compete contracts, your comment intrigues me. The first time you were at DSP, had you signed a non-compete? And then you left to design elsewhere? Then you went back to DSP to design again?
Didn't the non-compete prohibit you from going elsewhere?
I guess I'm just confused as to what the non-compete is. Does it just mean you're exclusive to DSP during the time you are there? Or that you can't go anywhere else for a specific period of time?
I appreciate your response to a nosey question.
I don't think she said she was a designer there and came back. Maybe it was just her digihome.
Clikchic said:
"I left to design elsewhere and now I am very happy to be back as a designer."
I know this is none of my business, but with the big discussion about non-compete contracts, your comment intrigues me. The first time you were at DSP, had you signed a non-compete? And then you left to design elsewhere? Then you went back to DSP to design again?
Didn't the non-compete prohibit you from going elsewhere?
I guess I'm just confused as to what the non-compete is. Does it just mean you're exclusive to DSP during the time you are there? Or that you can't go anywhere else for a specific period of time?
I appreciate your response to a nosey question.
May 28, 2009 12:25 AM
I was there as a scrapper not a designer originally.
I only left DSP as a scrapper because as I was designing at another site I no longer had the time to keep up with DSP.
Now that I am back as a designer, I don't need to spend time anywhere else. ;-) I do at times, but don't HAVE to. ;-)
I can't and won't go into the details of my contract, but I think there are definitions on wikipedia and their is a brief explanation at the DSP site. Any further than that you get to find out when you sign on as a designer. :-)
Got it. I thought you meant you had been a designer there.
Thanks for the reply.
Another ITA! here. DSP has not represented themselves in a good light here at all.
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What are you talking about? I think the posts against DSP have been quite rude and vulgar. There has been nothing inappropriate in the posts sticking up for DSP.
To the person who claimed SBE has a non-compete clause:
You need to get your facts right before making claims like that.
SBE DOES NOT prohibit anyone from selling at another store. Some SBE designers DO sell at other stores as well as at SBE. Their SBE designs must be exclusive to SBE. If they leave SBE they can't sell their SBE items elsewhere for a period of one month. After that they can sell them at other stores.
If they leave SBE they can't sell their SBE items elsewhere for a period of one month. After that they can sell them at other stores.
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That sounds like a non-compete clause to me!
SBE DOES NOT prohibit anyone from selling at another store. Some SBE designers DO sell at other stores as well as at SBE. Their SBE designs must be exclusive to SBE. If they leave SBE they can't sell their SBE items elsewhere for a period of one month. After that they can sell them at other stores.
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This is a completely fair contract. 6 months non-compete, not so much. Non-compete means just what it says, that for 6 months after leaving you cannot design or sell any digiscrap related products anywhere, anytime, or anyhow. Not new, not old, not anything. I'm not saying DSP is a bad shop nor that their designers are either good or bad at what they do nor that the owners are evil, just that I think non-competes stink. If someone signs one willingly, so be it. Their mistake and they'll likely live to regret it as there are so many (I'd say most) stores that don't do this. My opinion, since I'm allowed to have one, is that I will not support a store that engages in this practice. The thought being if enough people feel the same way, then the store/workplace/whatever will stop this insanity and allow people to move on with no repercussions if they choose to do so. Answer me this- why should someone be penalised EVER for seeking out a new employeer? This is one of the few things California has gotten right.
Scared? What are they; five years old? Seriously. They are, I assume, grown women and in a business. If the can't handle the business aspects, then they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.
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Ever had anyone with more money than you threaten to sue you personally when you know good and well you can't afford a lawyer to fight back? Guess not, otherwise maybe you'd understand why that might be scary.
That sounds like a non-compete clause to me!
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Not even close to the same thing. I'm not from SBE, so can't really speak on their behalf, but according to the previous post if you leave SBE you can't sell the designs you were selling there for 1 month. No prohibition against creating new materials to sell or against going to design somewhere else in general (according to the post). I don't know the details of the DSP non-compete either, but based on what's been said here and hasn't really been refuted it looks like a 6 month blanket you can't design anything anywhere clause. Not even in the same ballpark, IMHO.
Not even in the same ballpark, IMHO.
May 28, 2009 1:43 AM
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Agreed, but there are lots of different non-compete clauses. They are ALL different.
Their mistake and they'll likely live to regret it as there are so many (I'd say most) stores that don't do this.
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Some risks are worth taking. It is a risk, not a mistake, for you maybe, but not everyone will see it that way.
Ever had anyone with more money than you threaten to sue you personally when you know good and well you can't afford a lawyer to fight back? Guess not, otherwise maybe you'd understand why that might be scary.
May 28, 2009 1:36 AM
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Yes, I have actually. I told them to go ahead and try it and see how far it would get them. Guess what? They backed down, they didn't want the resulting bad publicity.
DSP is the dregs of digi.
Amy H. is tacky, and apparently quite stupid.
Someone is here just to stir the pot and make us all realize how horrible we are. (@@)
DSP is the dregs of digi.
Amy H. is tacky, and apparently quite stupid.
Someone is here just to stir the pot and make us all realize how horrible we are. (@@)
May 28, 2009 5:45 AM
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My what a cheery sprite you are do you have anything nice to say about ANYONE??
DSP is the dregs of digi.
Amy H. is tacky, and apparently quite stupid.
Someone is here just to stir the pot and make us all realize how horrible we are. (@@)
May 28, 2009 5:45 AM
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My what a cheery sprite you are do you have anything nice to say about ANYONE??
May 28, 2009 5:51 AM
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I think she was just summarizing today's events on the blog.
Doesn't anyone have anything interesting to talk about?
I wouldn't sign a non-compete either. I actually was going to apply to DSP around 2 years ago or so (can't remember exactly) but read that and quickly clicked the x.) I have a regular day job and for me not to be able to do that job for 6 or even 1 or 2 months would be quite devistating if I decided I couldn't stand my boss anymore and wanted to quit. I don't think it's right at all, especially becuse the items being sold at DSP are copyrighted to the designers. I can't see how DSP can tell these designers they can't do what they want with them if/when they leave.
It's one thing to have an exclusivity clause for the designs themselves, not being able to sell them anywhere else for that period that it's being sold in one store. I can understand that.
How does the legality of the contract even play out when it's all online? The store is in one state, designers in another. Wouldn't the store have to sue the designer in their home state? What if that state deesm non-compete contracts illegal or irrelevant? I don't know anything about contract law, so I'm probably wrong.
In the end, if it was me, for something as trivial as an online digiscrap store, I wouldn't be intimidated by it, even if they did sue. What are they gonna sue for? The money made on anything sold during that non-compete period? LOL okay.
The problem isn't for the designer getting sued, the clause is completely unenforceable pretty much anywhere. It's that DSP put pressure on the designer's new store to fire them or get sued. It only costs a couple hundred dollars to bring a suit, but many thousands to defend it, even if you win. So the stores roll over. It's just bully boy tactics. This isn't theoretical, by the way, DSP have done it before.
Any bets on whether Amy will manage to get around to posting the SUTUCS results tomorrow? Or will she decide that her store "glitch" warrants another four weeks of waiting? I won't hold my breath (but the likelihood that I'll ever shop there again decreases every day).
I am glad to see that AmyH took down those obnoxious donate buttons today.
Actually, I think that ship has sailed. I'm just too aggravated at this point. Unless she agrees to give me products upon the promise that I'll pay "soon."
what's everyone think about flergs' new wall-e kit?
What are you talking about? I think the posts against DSP have been quite rude and vulgar. There has been nothing inappropriate in the posts sticking up for DSP.
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Ummmm, how about this-
"A non-compete clause is pretty standard in any designer contract. In digiland or elsewhere. I guess it depends on how professional your store is...."
or this-
"but it is just run more like a business than the average SAHM run store out there. It is a professional business with staff. "
To me, I read both of the above as incredibly offensive to a lot of very good stores out there that are run by a "SAHM" and don't have stupid non-competes. Implying (and outright stating) that many, many other stores are 'not professional', unlike super-awesome DSP is not exactly going to make you a lot friends.
To me, I read both of the above as incredibly offensive to a lot of very good stores out there that are run by a "SAHM" and don't have stupid non-competes. Implying (and outright stating) that many, many other stores are 'not professional', unlike super-awesome DSP is not exactly going to make you a lot friends.
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ITA!
what's everyone think about flergs' new wall-e kit?
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Eh. It's okay, but she's using filter forge filters that anyone can make. Download it and use it yourself for 30 days for free and save yourself some bucks. Filter forge is awesome but when you can really tell that's what's being used, there's nothing too special about it. I have the full version and could pretty much design that whole kit in an afternoon. The most time-consuming part is rendering the filters. That yellow rusty wall one she did takes quite a long time and I have a pretty sweet machine. I have a bunch of textures that she used in this kit that i have rendered in a separate texure folder that I have for when I want to use one but don't want to wait to render it. Unfortunately, if I do use them, someone will scream that I'm pirating her.
Other than that, it's borderline copyright infringing on her part as she's used disney/pixar images to promote her product in the layouts.
It cracks me up when people post their real identies and say, "I heard my name being mentioned here." (and perhaps that is true and I'm not directing this specifically at Robyn.)
but...We all just need to fess up and admit we read it, lol.
I can't spell.
I meant "identities"
Sorry Grammar Police.
what's everyone think about flergs' new wall-e kit?
May 28, 2009 9:54 AM
I think using layouts that feature licensed and trademarked characters is not legal. Using the name of the movie in the description to promote the kit may also be an infringement. But maybe she bought a license. Like maybe she did for Twilight too.
Whatever. Not my fish to fry.
Well, aren't you special. Too bad you didn't create it first.
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Eh. It's okay, but she's using filter forge filters that anyone can make. Download it and use it yourself for 30 days for free and save yourself some bucks. Filter forge is awesome but when you can really tell that's what's being used, there's nothing too special about it. I have the full version and could pretty much design that whole kit in an afternoon. The most time-consuming part is rendering the filters. That yellow rusty wall one she did takes quite a long time and I have a pretty sweet machine. I have a bunch of textures that she used in this kit that i have rendered in a separate texure folder that I have for when I want to use one but don't want to wait to render it.
Personally, I have been stalking the SYTYCD gallery for Flergs kit this week. In the previous weeks she was almost first to post, so since it's taking this long she must be making a slam dunk of a kit.
Well, aren't you special. Too bad you didn't create it first.
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What, that kit? Hmmm...maybe I will now.
What site has the sytycd?
lol if you google sytycd you get hits for So You Think You Can Dance!!
It is at Digiscrap Addicts
what's everyone think about flergs' new wall-e kit?
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As a scrapper/designer, I really like it and think it is incredibly well done and completely appreciate the amount of work and talent that went into it. If I were a store owner, though, not sure I'd be comfortable selling it. Some of the elements (the B&L logo, leaf icon, etc.) are pretty much direct copies, albeit probably hand drawn, from the movie. With that said, I think SBG is run out of Canada and Flergs is Australian, and I have no idea what copyright laws look like in those countries.
amount of work and talent that went into it
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Yeah, Me too. The FF designers are very talented.
...which are copycats of Mr Retro Filters, who have been doing this for years: http://www.misterretro.com/image_filters.html
What site has the sytycd?
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digiscrapaddicts.com (lots of freebies)
...which are copycats of Mr Retro Filters
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Uhhhh....Can I have some of what you're smoking?
I would have compared it to Genetica, which both FF and Ggenetica are very similar. I don't know who did what first of those two.
But if you see similarity between Mr. Retro and FF.....alrighty, then. If you say so.
They are not even remotely similar, other than they are both PS plugins.
Oh, those Mr. Retro filters are cool!
Anonymous said...
...which are copycats of Mr Retro Filters
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Uhhhh....Can I have some of what you're smoking?
I would have compared it to Genetica, which both FF and Ggenetica are very similar. I don't know who did what first of those two.
But if you see similarity between Mr. Retro and FF.....alrighty, then. If you say so.
They are not even remotely similar, other than they are both PS plugins.
May 28, 2009 2:39 PM
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Did you perhaps mean they are similar to AlienSkin (Eye Candy) plug-in's? Those are super awesome!!
Robyn I am surprised that you would "lower" yourself by posting on this blog using your real name. I can only imagine that the powers that be at DSP do not encourage this behavior at all. IMO it is unprofessional and puts DSP in a bad light to have one of their own designers posting on this smack blog.
As for DSP's non-compete clause... IMO they would have a better group of designers without it. I do think they have some really talented designers, but I have to say that there are MANY talented designers out there that would not even consider agreeing to a non-compete clause. I know I wouldn't.
DSP isn't the only store with a low turnover rate as far as designers go. There are a few "upscale" digi-stores that have had the same designers for years and years. It is difficult to get a designing position at these stores. It doesn't happen over night. It takes a lot of hard work as well as talent. As far as I know DSP is the only store with a non-compete clause and they certainly are NOT the only store that is successful.
No, I meant Genetica.
Alien skin would me more similar than Mr. retro but is still very far off in what FF can do, which is pretty much limitless. Right now, there's over 5,000 filters in the library, free to use.
Filter forge is a sealess texture creator & generator and it also has filters for image modification. All filters submitted to the filter library are user-created within the software itself. You should check it out. It's a completely full trial version with no limiations for 30 days. If you learn the software and make your own filters and submit them, good filters get high usage, which earns points and so many points get you the software for free.]
It also doubles as a stand-alone application that can be used outside of PS.
Oh, and I'm not an affiliate, just a big fan and use it in almost everything I create. lol
I can't believe DSP is getting this much attention. It's such a very, very MEH place.
So I guess you're as mediocre a designer as you claim Flergs is for using their filters. lol
I never thought you were an affiliate, by the way...like they have time to stalk this forum.
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Oh, and I'm not an affiliate, just a big fan and use it in almost everything I create. lol
Umm..before you look for the word "mediocre" in your original post, let me reword that...you "inferred" that she was not all that because she used their filtersl.
DSP isn't the only store with a low turnover rate as far as designers go. There are a few "upscale" digi-stores that have had the same designers for years and years.
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Please share the names of these stores. Thanks.
Designer Digitals
Scrap Girls
Designer Digitals
Scrap Girls
May 28, 2009 4:49 PM
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I was going to say those two as well. Much better quality than DSP IMO. Designer Digitals was the first store I found when getting into digital scrapping and most of the same designers are still there.
Personally, I have been stalking the SYTYCD gallery for Flergs kit this week. In the previous weeks she was almost first to post, so since it's taking this long she must be making a slam dunk of a kit.
May 28, 2009 10:51 AM
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I think its safe to say you can stop stalking it, It looks as if she isn't going to have a kit up for week 4.
http://twitter.com/Flergs
With that being said, Who do you all think is going to be top 10?
LOL I inferred nothing. I was asked my opinion and I gave it.
'Cause you all seem to think her shit don't stink and that anyone using CU resources makes them less than a designer. Creating a paper with an existing filter like that by simply clicking render is nothing more than recoloring a flower or rendering out a poser doll. There is zero difference.
As far as the folks at filter forge, they're artists, just like the designers in this industry and deserve credit where credit is due, even though they know when they submit the filters, people will use them at will.
I create my own filters and will submit one every once in a while but I mostly create them for my own use and have well over 100 of my own unique filter designs.
With that being said, Who do you all think is going to be top 10?
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Hopefully, Sweetdigiscraps, I love that kit, and Wild Dandelions. Nothing else really stands out to me.
Different artists can use the same tools (photoshop, cu items, filters, etc.) but they will create very different items. We all have different tastes and will be drawn to different types of art. There are different things that we will be drawn to in a kit; textures, colors, the theme, or certain elements that just go with a set of pictures we have. Some people like to buy kits and others like to buy just papers or just elements. There is no "perfect" designer and there is no "perfect" kit. I myself have gone from wanting clutters and groupies to wanting clean lines and simplicity. I have gone from posting my layouts and sharing on line to not posting anything and just printing layouts for my family. I have no idea what I will be drawn to next month. But I am happy that there are so many different kinds of designers and styles out there so that when my tastes change there will be something for me.
Gosh 5:13, you are the shit aren't you.
Gosh 5:13, you are the shit aren't you.
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Why yes, I am. Thanks for commenting!
My faves in week four are Recycled by Lindsay Riches and Let Freedom Ring by Amy Stoffel.
ROFLMAO - Exactly! What a tool.
People just don't seem to realize that whey they are promoting a product and they act like an asshole, nobody wants to buy that product. I don't think FF or FU or whatever would be too please to have an idiot like that promoting them.
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Gosh 5:13, you are the shit aren't you.
My top picks this week:
mle Card
sweetdigiscraps
redju
AmySumrall
Maélia Designs
lynzriches
Faith True
annabv
I am saving 2 spots for the kits that haven't been posted yet.
The problem isn't for the designer getting sued, the clause is completely unenforceable pretty much anywhere. It's that DSP put pressure on the designer's new store to fire them or get sued. It only costs a couple hundred dollars to bring a suit, but many thousands to defend it, even if you win. So the stores roll over. It's just bully boy tactics. This isn't theoretical, by the way, DSP have done it before.
May 28, 2009 7:57 AM
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I call bullshit! Back it up if you are going to spout crap like that.
As far as the folks at filter forge, they're artists, just like the designers in this industry and deserve credit where credit is due, even though they know when they submit the filters, people will use them at will.
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The terms of use at FF say only that it is polite to give credit to the creator of the filter. It is not required. Apparently some designers are not polite.
To me, I read both of the above as incredibly offensive to a lot of very good stores out there that are run by a "SAHM" and don't have stupid non-competes. Implying (and outright stating) that many, many other stores are 'not professional', unlike super-awesome DSP is not exactly going to make you a lot friends.
May 28, 2009 10:06 AM
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It sounds more to me as if you are a tad over-sensitive.
It's that DSP put pressure on the designer's new store to fire them or get sued.
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DSP has a contract with the designer not the store. So I doubt that they would try and sue a store that had nothing to do with the contract.
People...before you sign anything...be it agreements, loan docs, contracts or whatever...READ IT FIRST. When you are dealing with signed agreements, ignorance is just not an acceptable excuse.
Anyone else smell a Barb Speck?
By the way, Barb, sometimes you forget to call yourself "Filter Forge Contributor" but that's okay...it's all you.
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'Cause you all seem to think her shit don't stink and that anyone using CU resources makes them less than a designer. Creating a paper with an existing filter like that by simply clicking render is nothing more than recoloring a flower or rendering out a poser doll. There is zero difference.
As far as the folks at filter forge, they're artists, just like the designers in this industry and deserve credit where credit is due, even though they know when they submit the filters, people will use them at will.
I create my own filters and will submit one every once in a while but I mostly create them for my own use and have well over 100 of my own unique filter designs.
Get the hell over yourselves. Your're all a bunch of worthless shitheads would rather run in front of a bus than let someone talk shit about your best buddy flerg or whatever her name is. Take it back to DSA wherever the hell it is you like to sniff her ass.
I am surprised that someone would say that based on posts here they are not going to shop at a certain store. There are stores that I think act professionally and there are stores that I think don't. I will base my opinion on what I see going on at the store and how they treat me. I am not going to base my opinion on what is said at this blog. I have no idea if someone from a store is actually posting of if someone else is pretending they are from the store just to get people to be pissed off. It is all anonymous so how do you really know who is saying what??
Get the hell over yourselves. Your're all a bunch of worthless shitheads would rather run in front of a bus than let someone talk shit about your best buddy flerg or whatever her name is. Take it back to DSA wherever the hell it is you like to sniff her ass.
May 28, 2009 5:56 PM
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What a charmer
I am surprised that someone would say that based on posts here they are not going to shop at a certain store. There are stores that I think act professionally and there are stores that I think don't. I will base my opinion on what I see going on at the store and how they treat me. I am not going to base my opinion on what is said at this blog. I have no idea if someone from a store is actually posting of if someone else is pretending they are from the store just to get people to be pissed off. It is all anonymous so how do you really know who is saying what??
May 28, 2009 6:00 PM
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I have to agree with you there, to believe any of the anon crap that gets spewed here would be silly. It is entertaining perhaps, but should be taken with a grain of salt.
Wow 5:56 you need to chill. What the heck are you even talking about. I for one don't even know flergs. Someone asked about her new kit, someone else responded complaining about her use of FF, so now we are all shitheads?
I think its safe to say you can stop stalking it, It looks as if she isn't going to have a kit up for week 4.
http://twitter.com/Flergs
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Ha, ha. Looks like Flergs read this blog and realized just how much she 'screwed up royally' with her Industri-E kit.
Wow 5:56 you need to chill. What the heck are you even talking about. I for one don't even know flergs. Someone asked about her new kit, someone else responded complaining about her use of FF, so now we are all shitheads?
May 28, 2009 6:05 PM
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He he, my guess is she is jealous of all the attention flergs receives or has some problem with her. Get a life 5.56....
I just love it when you all think you can throw around insults and think they actually have an effect on the person you're directing them to.
Brilliant, I say, simply brilliant. Let's play some more.
signed:
ANONYMOUS. Just like all of you.
This week's SYTYCD kits that I like are:
SweetDigiScraps - original idea
Brandy Designs - not into Halloween but the kit is cute
Lyndsay Riches - really nice
Maelia Designs - I just like it
AnnaBV - not going to download as I can't use it, but it's a nice kit
Amy Sumrall - it really suits the holiday
Faith True - again, I wouldn't use it but it's nicely done
The rest of them are just meh.
Oh, that'll make me run to FF to buy some filters!
Somebody's off her medication.
By the way, I haven't purchased from Flergs in over a year, so no butt sniffing here. I just hate haters. You sound like a jealous hag.
I just hate haters.
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You must hate yourself then. How do you live with yourself? You must be in constant conflict.
It sounds more to me as if you are a tad over-sensitive.
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Gee, nice to know you want to tell me how to feel, too. How else would one interpret the comment "but it is just run more like a business than the average SAHM run store out there. It is a professional business with staff." other than as a insult to a lot of the perfectly professional stores with talented designers that happen to be run by Moms?
Looks like the DSP brigade is back...
Anyone else smell a Barb Speck?
By the way, Barb, sometimes you forget to call yourself "Filter Forge Contributor" but that's okay...it's all you.
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No, I don't. You just make yourself look really stupid attributing an anon post to someone. Barb would post under her own name and the language isn't the same as Barb's.
Barb Speck sucks
Barb Speck sucks
May 28, 2009 6:18 PM
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That may be but at least she has the integrity to post under her own name, unlike the rest of us.
I am surprised that someone would say that based on posts here they are not going to shop at a certain store.
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I can't say I've ever seen anyone here go "OMG Anonymous Poster @ 7:15, I don't know anything about this situation but I totally agree with your completely anonymous and possibly slanted post and will never shop there again". What I do see a lot of is "I hate store ABC because of XYZ and am not shopping there anymore" followed by a lot of eiher "ITA and had the same experience and will not go there anymore either" or "Shut up jealous bitches".
There, now I've finshed what we'll be seeing for the next 2000 entries, so hopefully this will save everyone time.
:hugs: and ;-) and all that crap
Anonymous poster at 6:23 PMish
That may be but at least she has the integrity to post under her own name, unlike the rest of us.
May 28, 2009 6:22 PM
pure speculation on your part. Unless you have the ability to link every anon post to someone, there's every possibility that sucky Barb Speck is posting here anon as well as with her own name
Gee, nice to know you want to tell me how to feel, too. How else would one interpret the comment "but it is just run more like a business than the average SAHM run store out there. It is a professional business with staff." other than as a insult to a lot of the perfectly professional stores with talented designers that happen to be run by Moms?
Looks like the DSP brigade is back...
May 28, 2009 6:17 PM
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Oh for goodness sake, get over it, just because I think the average store isn't that professional doesn't mean I think none are...
I never said you had to feel oversensitive, I said you sounded oversensitive. You also sound very defensive, did I strike a nerve?
And in case you have forgotten, this is an anon blog. Only one person from DSP has posted using her name and had nothing bad to say about other stores.
Let's just drop the whole Barb Speck thing or she'll be here soon saying that she 'heard' that she was being mentioned over here.
I already dropped it. There's no point in arguing with a child.
I call bullshit! Back it up if you are going to spout crap like that.
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Something tells me it would probably not be in your best interest to push this, Margie. Remember, e-mails live forever...
Barb Speck sucks and she'd be a perfect fit over at DSP
Let's just drop the whole Barb Speck thing or she'll be here soon saying that she 'heard' that she was being mentioned over here.
May 28, 2009 6:27 PM
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Well no designer in her right mind except maybe Ruby who has balls of steel would admit to reading here.
ROFL
Something tells me it would probably not be in your best interest to push this, Margie. Remember, e-mails live forever...
May 28, 2009 6:28 PM
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Ahh, sorry, not Margie.. whoever that is, I just call bullshit.. go ahead, make my day.
Something tells me it would probably not be in your best interest to push this, Margie. Remember, e-mails live forever...
May 28, 2009 6:28 PM
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Umm, it can't be Margie, if you read her blog she is somewhere on the cook islands right now without internet access.
Barb Speck sucks and she'd be a perfect fit over at DSP
May 28, 2009 6:28 PM
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Grow up. How old are you? Eight? You sure sound liked it.
Something tells me it would probably not be in your best interest to push this, Margie. Remember, e-mails live forever...
May 28, 2009 6:28 PM
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Umm, it can't be Margie, if you read her blog she is somewhere on the cook islands right now without internet access.
May 28, 2009 6:32 PM
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LMBO! See how stupid you sound when you think you know who is posting.
Barb Speck sucks and DSP would be too good for her!
I think the most entertaining part of this blog is when people think they know who's posting.
Especially the "Hi, *insert name here*" comments. They make me ROLFLMFBO.
Who is Margie?
Hi Barb-you suck
I think the most entertaining part of this blog is when people think they know who's posting.
Especially the "Hi, *insert name here*" comments. They make me ROLFLMFBO.
May 28, 2009 6:35 PM
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ITA! In smack blog history, I've been accused of being many different people but never of being me.
Everyone sucks and you all belong at DC.
Barb Speck belongs at DC
Everyone sucks and you all belong at DC.
May 28, 2009 6:37 PM
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Including you, my dear. Now run along, I hear your mommy calling.
it would be interesting to see how much Amy H made off her donation buttons over at A5. Now SHE sucks!
Umm, it can't be Margie, if you read her blog she is somewhere on the cook islands right now without internet access.
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Ahhhh. Good to know they disenfranchise their enslaved designers to the point where they can afford fancy-schmancy vacation spots. Thanks for the heads up. Designers at DSP, think ya'll need to check those commission rates...
Everyone sucks and you all belong at DC.
May 28, 2009 6:37 PM
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haven't you got anything more interesting to say? Go find another playground to play in. Are the tagger smack blogs down or something?
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