Friday, June 26, 2009

More Space

I saw the infamous "sexy" layout. Unfortunately I didn't have the sense to save it off for future discussion. My first thought was I hope that is a stock photo, because having a third party capture that image might be more awkward than posting it in a scrapbook gallery. Second, the title didn't work for me, it was something like "every life is precious". I think a more appropriate title may have been "Do me now".

Did you all rush out to buy the kit to scrap your last sexcapade? Any recommendations for kits appropriate for scrapping your after hours adventures. Does anybody really scrap that?

Carry on with whatever is going on...CU sharing, DST banning, digital art vs. digital scrapbooking, Christina Renee's grand re-opening, GSO thread abuse....

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Anonymous said...

It always makes me laugh how people think these are the "good" stores. Take a look at web stats people!!! Divine Digital gets almost TWICE as much traffic as Shabby Pickle and After Five Designs. Just an example to show how confused some of your are. :)

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Web traffic doesn't necessarily equal sales. For instnace, I've visited Divine Digital but never bought anything. I've also visited ScrapArtist and Shabby Pickle and bought from both those places.

Anonymous said...

It's easy to have a lot of traffic when you have 50 designers, plus 4 or 5 ct's for each visiting the site every day. Traffic is not the same as sales. I bought there once and the stuff was so bad I won't go again!

wv - natin - natin this lifetime...lmao!

Anonymous said...

It always makes me laugh how people think these are the "good" stores. Take a look at web stats people!!! Divine Digital gets almost TWICE as much traffic as Shabby Pickle and After Five Designs. Just an example to show how confused some of your are. :)
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I think you're pretty confused, LOL. Traffic comes from all kinds of things, not just paying customers. Divine Digital has at least 3-4 times as many designers as WST. More designers means more CT members, which means more traffic, but not paying customers. Also, I don't know if it's still this way, but when I started scrapping Divine Digitals had a ton of freebies. I went there all the time looking for new ones. But now that I've started paying for higher quality, I don't go there anymore. Again, freebie hunters mean more traffic, but they're not paying customers.

Anonymous said...

LOL, 8:25 had the same thought I did about the CT members! That means it must be true. ;)

Anonymous said...

Were you rejected Pamela?

August 6, 2009 5:56 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Should that 'rijected'?

August 6, 2009 7:09 PM

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Booya!

Anonymous said...

She had a kit called pop my cherry. WTF is this digital world coming to? I understand the concept behind using kits to create a tag as they call it but that to me is just drawing the line. I scrolled down looking to see what else was on this site and she had a kit with condoms in it. Now who in their right mind would buy such distasteful items. Oh yes I think I will create a scrap page with condoms and whip cream. Get real.

August 5, 2009 12:02 AM
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I can only imagine the LOs done with those kits!
Betcha those pics would get right clicked and saved!

Anonymous said...

It always makes me laugh how people think these are the "good" stores. Take a look at web stats people!!! Divine Digital gets almost TWICE as much traffic as Shabby Pickle and After Five Designs. Just an example to show how confused some of your are. :)

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Now THAT was funny!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if Kellie Mize will go back to Designer Digitals. And now Molly DeCrow's defection to ScrapOrchard makes more sense.

Anonymous said...

STOP SPELLING THE WORD RIDICULOUS WITH AN E!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's not rEdiculous, it's rIdiculous.
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stfu.

August 6, 2009 4:42 PM
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Feeling guilty, stupid bitch?:)

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^

Huh?

Anonymous said...

Feeling guilty, stupid bitch?:)
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Yeah, you got me. I am just feeling sooooo guilty about a typo.

Idiot. rEdiculous idiot. It's so fucking rEdiculous when people come here and spout such rEdiculous crap about rEdiculous nonsense that nobody cares about. It's completely rEdiculous.

Anonymous said...

Feel better now?

Anonymous said...

what the hell is up with all the "wv"s? I've never found ANY of them to be funny!

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^

Some of the WV themselves are pretty funny but the some of the interpretations are really lame.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the hell is up with all the "wv"s? I've never found ANY of them to be funny!

August 7, 2009 6:08 AM

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Maybe you just don't have a sense of humor.

Anonymous said...

It always makes me laugh how people think these are the "good" stores. Take a look at web stats people!!! Divine Digital gets almost TWICE as much traffic as Shabby Pickle and After Five Designs. Just an example to show how confused some of your are. :)
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LOL I have never EVER judged the quality of a site by how much traffic it gets. I judge how good a site is by the stuff it has and whether it interests me.

Anonymous said...

LOL I have never EVER judged the quality of a site by how much traffic it gets. I judge how good a site is by the stuff it has and whether it interests me.
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I totally agree........can't say as I've ever even bothered to check how much traffic they get. If I like it, good quality and in my budget.......it becomes mine.

Anonymous said...

Why does every kit at Scrap Orchard look the same? Even the new designers seem to have changed styles to match the store. Blah boring.

Anonymous said...

Really everything at SPD, SO, @ A5D has looked all the same for some time now. I swear if I see another freakin wooden, plant like ladder in a kit I will scream!!!

Anonymous said...

actually I think it's the new designers at SO who have come with kits all the same.

Anonymous said...

Question for designers...
Do you care what kind of subject matter your team scraps with your kits? If you're doing a call and you see pages on depression, divorce, etc. in a person's gallery, will you not pick them because of it? I'm just curious if designers want people who only scrap "happy go lucky" layouts or if they mind if people scrap about the other stuff too.

Anonymous said...

I wish there were more 'outlaw scrappers' out there, but all the CT apps I see are from the sugar brigade. I'd hire people who scrap the dark side in a heartbeat, but they don't apply. Guess they are too busy being real people to want to play the 'look at me' game. Good for them!

Anonymous said...

Question for designers...
Do you care what kind of subject matter your team scraps with your kits? If you're doing a call and you see pages on depression, divorce, etc. in a person's gallery, will you not pick them because of it? I'm just curious if designers want people who only scrap "happy go lucky" layouts or if they mind if people scrap about the other stuff too.

August 8, 2009 7:55 AM

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Nope. I welcome all kinds of styles, approaches and levels of scrapping. Shows versatility and I like a real feel.

Anonymous said...

I'd take "real" layouts topics on my team over a ct that uses stock photos any day.

Anonymous said...

Not at all. I welcome brand-new scrappers as well as seasoned. I'm not a fantasy or fancy type scrapper myself. I tend to stick with the simpler paper style scrapping and I wish I would see more of this style when designers showcase layouts with their kits. I also scrap where the image I'm scrapping is the main focus. I tend to make the main image really large on my page and then lightly accent it. I don't see much of that with CT layouts, either. I know their job is to showcase the kit but to me, it's incredibly cheezy to be showcasing another person's over-hyped clip art instead of the photo you're creating a memory for. A kit works well for me if it accents the photos and doesn't over-power them to where you really have to concentrate on the photo to see what it's all about.

I know I'm getting off on a separate tangent but I'll never, ever, ever in a million years understand layouts with a tiny little pic in the corner blurred out by a cluster of junk and the remaining 95% of the page is nothing but background paper.

Anonymous said...

Well that is good to know as I do scrap the real stuff... I wish I knew which designers you were so I could apply for your teams! ;) And I agree, I don't understand the use of stock photos, but then again, I'm scrapping the real memories, not the fake, fantasy ones.

Anonymous said...

Designers, why don't you ask some of those people to be on your team? I know I'd be flattered to be asked.

Anonymous said...

http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=204853

I thought Melanie Colosimo disappeared - is she back?

Anonymous said...

one of the sites, DSA I think, has a REVERSE CT CALL in the forum. Why not go list yourselves as "Looking to CT", and maybe you will get recruited.

Including that little blurb somewhere on your blog will let folks see you are looking for CT work also. I've recruited all my ct off seeing their blogs.

:)

Anonymous said...

when I was designing, I used to have all sorts of scrappers on my CT. Beginner scrappers to those with a few years experience. All sorts of styles, including, yes, fantasy, which so many seem to dislike.

I don't see the fantasy layouts as any more fake than those layouts where every day seems to be perfect, like a TV family. Isn't that a fantasy too?

Anonymous said...

The thing that some of you are overlooking with the stock photos is that some people don't want their families and children plastered all over the internet. Blurring out faces is an option, but it does detract from the page.

Anonymous said...

I know I can spend up to two hours on a layout so I don't get the appel of stock photos at all. Why use them and spend hours on a layout to not use them for your own scrapbook? To each their own.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^

Because you can save the file in layers and then put your real photo in there once it's uploaded. That's why. See, the time hasn't been wasted.

More people need to think outside of the box, instead of in the box.

Anonymous said...

I'd rather use a stock photo on my layout than blurring the face of my kid because it's really ugly and there is no point in sharing a blurry layout. If you want to share your kids, do it with your friends. If you want to post online for your CT requirement, then it doesn't help the designer you T for if you post blurry pics.
I don't post my family neither my journaling on the web because it's private.

I know I'm getting off on a separate tangent but I'll never, ever, ever in a million years understand layouts with a tiny little pic in the corner blurred out by a cluster of junk and the remaining 95% of the page is nothing but background paper.

August 8, 2009 10:00 AM


See, that's the kind of layout I make for the galleries. What you don't know is that I might have written a long journaling but took it off for the web version.

Anonymous said...

Ah, I get it. That must be what all those white space layouts are (the ones with the little tiny photo and all that paper)... they actually have a ton of journaling which has just been removed for posting! LOL jk :)

Anonymous said...

I wish there were more 'outlaw scrappers' out there, but all the CT apps I see are from the sugar brigade. I'd hire people who scrap the dark side in a heartbeat, but they don't apply. Guess they are too busy being real people to want to play the 'look at me' game. Good for them!
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Or maybe there are real people who just don't have a dark side to scrap. Depression, divorce, drug use, death, whatever, won't be in my LOs because I have no experience with any of them. My life is pretty darn cheerful, that's my reality and I'm thankful for it.

Anonymous said...

The obviously everyone else in the world is the same 12.20, that must be why dark side scrappers don't apply for CT spots, because they don't exist. It must be just me who has problems and disappointments from time to time then, I wonder why I don't have a 100% baking scones and flower arranging life like everyone else on the planet?

Get real.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe there are real people who just don't have a dark side to scrap. Depression, divorce, drug use, death, whatever, won't be in my LOs because I have no experience with any of them. My life is pretty darn cheerful, that's my reality and I'm thankful for it.

August 9, 2009 12:20 AM

Or maybe the world is full of people who live in denial and have fronting and pretending down to a science.

And how stupid do you have to be to say that death will never be a part of your life or your LOs?? Same goes for things like illness, depression, and divorce. Even if they don't affect you personally (YET), it's hard to believe that they haven't affected anyone close to you. Then again, how could anyone get close to you? You're so far out there in fantasy land that you can't be reached.

Brace yourself, you're in for one helluva of a crash and burn someday.

Anonymous said...

Just because you're depressed, divorced, etc doesn't mean that she will ever be. And I certainly wouldn't wish it on her like that. (and please don't say, "Wah! I didn't say that!" You're right, you didn't. But you were implying it.

Anonymous said...

ust because you're depressed, divorced, etc doesn't mean that she will ever be. And I certainly wouldn't wish it on her like that. (and please don't say, "Wah! I didn't say that!" You're right, you didn't. But you were implying it.

August 9, 2009 1:18 PM

Way to miss the whole point. And you are way too obtuse to know what the OP was saying, much less implying.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe there are real people who just don't have a dark side to scrap. Depression, divorce, drug use, death, whatever, won't be in my LOs because I have no experience with any of them. My life is pretty darn cheerful, that's my reality and I'm thankful for it.

August 9, 2009 12:20 AM
^^^^^^^^
This is the most perfect example of DST-speak EVER.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps there are people who care not to share their more personal "darker" pages in the galleries? Maybe they contain darkness that shares news of a sister's struggle with drugs or their father's alcoholism or any number of things and it's not something she or her family would want every stranger who sees her gallery to be privvy to.

It's ok if you're open like that, but not everyone is. Doesn't mean they don't experience or scrap some of the darker aspects of life.

But this--and the gripe about white space pages--all comes down to this: WTF does anyone care what someone else scraps??

End of song.

Anonymous said...

Oh quick! Quick! Up there! Look! It's the point! Oh darn, you missed it.

It's not that we care what they scrap, we're just curious as to whether there was a reason why those who DO scrap the dark stuff aren't on CTs.

Not sure how that translates to your viewpoint.

Anonymous said...

Guess they are too busy being real people to want to play the 'look at me' game. Good for them!

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See, I think the opposite. The people who scrapbook and post pages about personal, dark experiences are crying out to be noticed. In my opinion, anyway.

My life is pretty pleasant too. I am so thankful for that. I do have things I struggle with, I have scrapped them before, but I have only posted one layout that shared anything really personal or dark. Some things are just too personal for me, and I don't feel comfortable sharing them with the whole world. I do believe there are a few people who share layouts that have dark and edgy subject matter who have no ulterior motives, but most just to it to get attention.

Anonymous said...

I think you could probably say the same about any scrapper who put any layout in a public gallery. Just MHO.

Anonymous said...

I'm just gobsmacked by how many mind readers there are in digi. All this ability to know what people are thinking, what their motives for scrapping or posting are, and even the amazing ability to know what people are implying!

Anonymous said...

Are you "implying" that the people here are stupid? LOL :P :P :P

And yes, I'm being sarcastic

Anonymous said...

I just wanted to say something, my life recently has found many dark things, I just don't feel the need to scrap them. My scrap pages are for things I want to look back at and remember, not things I wish I could forget. Don't get me wrong, it's not about denial whatsoever. I know I'll remember them fine, and I'd prefer not to be looking through my albums and going, "Oh and look here, this is when I got into that NASTY divorce!" That's for my private journal, not something I want to be posting on the WWW for the whole world to take in my dirty laundry and spread the fake sympathy. Nor do I prefer to see someone else's dark layouts. Like "Oh, how inspiring. Her husband died!" I do love some of the ones that discuss how they are healing and how they know that they are better for their negative experiences. I have enough unwanted negativity going on in my real life, no thanks I don't need yours presented at me in scrap form. How close does someone feel they need to be with everyone that they have to share their skeletons? Am I missing a point here? I personally just don't understand dark scrap and not for lack of bad things having happened to me.

Anonymous said...

I suppose it depends on why you scrap. As you said, there are things that are for your personal journal and things which aren't. I don't want to leave only the good things behind when I am gone, the good memories and the 'my life is perfect' stuff. For my, preserving the memories and stories of my life has to include the problems and the heartache as well as the joy and the happiness, else it's just a sham.

Doesn't necessarily mean I want to publish those layouts, but that wasn't the question.

Anonymous said...

I just wanted to say something, my life recently has found many dark things, I just don't feel the need to scrap them. My scrap pages are for things I want to look back at and remember, not things I wish I could forget. Don't get me wrong, it's not about denial whatsoever. I know I'll remember them fine, and I'd prefer not to be looking through my albums and going, "Oh and look here, this is when I got into that NASTY divorce!" That's for my private journal, not something I want to be posting on the WWW for the whole world to take in my dirty laundry and spread the fake sympathy. Nor do I prefer to see someone else's dark layouts. Like "Oh, how inspiring. Her husband died!" I do love some of the ones that discuss how they are healing and how they know that they are better for their negative experiences. I have enough unwanted negativity going on in my real life, no thanks I don't need yours presented at me in scrap form. How close does someone feel they need to be with everyone that they have to share their skeletons? Am I missing a point here? I personally just don't understand dark scrap and not for lack of bad things having happened to me.
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Could it maybe be therapy for the one who is suffering. Art therapy has been used for years for those who have suffered trauma in their lives. Maybe this is just scrap therapy. Ok so you don't get it and you don't see why others would want to scrap their darkest times but does that mean just cause you wouldn't do it someone else isn't suppose to do it either let alone put it in a gallery for others to see. Shame Shame just cause it isn't your thing and you don't get it don't act so holier then thou if someone else sees the need to do it!!

Anonymous said...

To each his own on whether or not they scrap all of life, or just the good stuff. Same with what people post to galleries. But I call BS on anyone who says they have no experience with anything bad, sad or netagive in their life, and they never will. Bullshit.

Anonymous said...

netagive=negative

Anonymous said...

Art therapy is certainly understandable. I do GET why people do it. I just don't personally do it or like to see it. Everyone is entitled to scrap what they want and it's just up to me not to look. It is a very to each their own issue. I'm sorry for coming off close minded, and had not intended to, I was just putting in two cents for the minority that DOES have dark things, is not "in denial" and just doesn't feel the need to scrap it. I did add the unnecessary I don't need to see it, but again, the quick fix for that is to...just not look.

Anonymous said...

The thing that some of you are overlooking with the stock photos is that some people don't want their families and children plastered all over the internet. Blurring out faces is an option, but it does detract from the page.

August 8, 2009 7:08 PM
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I don't think that most people using stock photos are doing it for that reason. They are doing it to produce a more attractive page that will get lots of comments/compliments or because they don't have photos that match the themes of the kits. Seriously, WTH is someone going to do with a tiny web version of a cropped photo covered with elements anyway? What's the fear of posting a photo of your child on the internet within a layout? If someone is going to use a photo for ill purposes, they certainly aren't going to the trouble of extracting it from 600px web version layout, lol ... they will go to a photography website. It bugs me to no end when I see people not crediting professional photos they've grabbed without permission (Anne Geddes, etc) or crediting the photo as "photo from Google" --- Google is not a photographer, duh! I agree, blurred faces are a total distraction to the page and if I were a designer I wouldn't care for pages posted with them using my products nor would I ever use them for previews.

Anonymous said...

the problem with stock photos and CT WORK: is in the photo rights themselves.

though YOU the scrapper my be using them as personal use {which technicaly you are NOT if you are doing a CT layout. You are recieving the product as compensation for your work. Compensation = NOT PERSONAL USE}

When you submit them as your creations, the designers then use them for advertising purposes. This is COMMERCIAL USE, not Personal. THAT is why stock photos should NOT be used on CT Layouts.

If you do a layout of your kids "just becuase" and want to share it on a gallery without your kids so you pop in a stock. Thats fine.

But if you made that layout as CT Work, and the designer is using your layout for advertising, then that is NOT cool.

Anonymous said...

Totally agree with you 1:34, infact I refuse to buy from designers who product previews include CT LO's that contain stolen pictures!

Anonymous said...

But if you made that layout as CT Work, and the designer is using your layout for advertising, then that is NOT cool.

August 10, 2009 1:34 PM

Totally agree with you, but nothing is ever going to be done about this issue. If the CT LOs done with Anne Geddes, etc. photos are getting the designers more exposure and more sales, then the designers in question are more than happy to look the other way or pretend/plead ignorance. Same goes for Shannon and DST-it's getting traffic for her site and views in the gallery. She pays lip service to the whole 'follow TOUs and copyrights' issue, but isn't willing to do anything about the actual violations.

And I'm sure some DST apologist will just be chomping at the bit to say that DST is too busy of a site for Shannon and her ilk to police. Yeah, yeah. Right.

Anonymous said...

Disappointingly, I also see them published in scrapping magazines :( It's frustrating that so many turn a blind eye to this issue, yet get so worked up over other types of digital piracy. I guess it boils down to people really only care when it suits their own interests.

Anonymous said...

Totally agree with you 1:34, infact I refuse to buy from designers who product previews include CT LO's that contain stolen pictures!

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I would guess that most designers probably don't know whether a photo is stolen or not. How can you be so closed minded? And I would like to know how all of YOU know whether or not a photo is stolen? Do you browse stock photography sites looking for photos that other scrappers have used? Not to mention that there are lots and lots of commercial use CD's of images you can buy in stores and online. I have one that is all nature images, and I know know they have them for all sorts of genres.

Anonymous said...

Many photos are used over and over and are very distinctive to particular photographers, such as Anne Geddes. I don't think anyone doubts that some stock photos are legitimately used. It's the circumstances when they clearly aren't, that have been ignored in the community. I don't think anyone was generalizing the use of stock photography to every situation. I do think that most designers and store owners are aware of the misuse of some of these photos, which wouldn't require much research :) It wouldn't surprise me if there have even been circumstances where the designers may have even enabled it (purely speculation).

Anonymous said...

I guess it boils down to people really only care when it suits their own interests.

August 10, 2009 2:24 PM

Word.

Anonymous said...

Take a look st She's gallery at DST, a lot of her pages feature children that (I think)were taken by professionals. There is never a photography credit in her credits. If she had permission from the photographers you can bet they would require credit. Its easy to right click a photo from a blog or web page. I think the trend of using small photo's and lots of white space is because these photo's are web sized and they tried to use it as a full size photo on a lo it would show.

Anonymous said...

Any news on where some of the WAS/WST designers will be going? There are a few I'd really like to keep up with.

Anonymous said...

People! We can all go round and round in circles over TOUs, copyright, EULs and yadda yadda 'till the cows come home. It's not going to make a bit of difference.

Newsflash: all the abuses will keep happening if and until a big lawsuit or three comes about. Then, of course an 'Average Joe'-type person would have to get into a whole shitload of trouble, and there'd have to be tons of publicity about it.

Um, don't hold your breath. Even sites like Anne Geddes really just don't care unless it's costing them some serious $$.

Anonymous said...

3:37, ITA, but it still bothers me, lol.

Anonymous said...

I agree 3:37, but with the designers preaching TOU and anti_piracy messages, I figure what good for the goose in good for the gander,KWM.

Anonymous said...

I don't have a CT right now, but I can say that unless it was something clearly recognizable, like Anne Geddes, I wouldn't know whether it was a stock photo or a photo stolen from the web or not. A lot of people have very expensive cameras now and if you know photoshop, it's not much editing to make a photo look professional. Also many children's photography sites teach you to take photos a la Anne Geddes, like the ones with the newborns "hanging" in a sack. And I've photoshopped wings onto my own daughter. So I don't think you can assume that just because a picture LOOKS professional, it actually is.

Anonymous said...

I have seen some of the children in the GSO LO'sused on pro photog sites, I think designers should remind their CT's that any photo's they use they should have the legal right to use, since it is not for personal use but is actually an ad for the kit, thus professional use.

Anonymous said...

There are some very good photographers who are scrappers and their pictures do almost look professional, but when every layout has different kid on it, its hard to believe that they have taken the photo. I think its actually pretty easy to tell, IMO.

Anonymous said...

I agree 3:37, but with the designers preaching TOU and anti_piracy messages, I figure what good for the goose in good for the gander,KWM.

August 10, 2009 3:52 PM


Agreed. I really believe that designers should be held to the same standards that they expect and/or demand from others.

However, a few years in digi has shown me that it's rife with designers who have no scruples whatsoever about the work of others, but they'll screech and harp about their own stuff being abused every chance they get. I guess I'm just kind of jaded about it all now, and tired of all the hypocrisy and double standards.

Anonymous said...

I'm guessing that some of the WAS designers are heading on to SA only because a few of the SA designers and site CT were in the 'we are closing' thread over at WAS.

Merely conjecture, but it is the way it usually works.

Anonymous said...

A lot of people have very expensive cameras now and if you know photoshop, it's not much editing to make a photo look professional.
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This made me laugh out loud. If you are crap photographer, the most expensive camera in the world will not make you look professional. I was only holiday a few years ago with a friend. I had this dinky point and shoot and she had this fancy expensive camera. We are both with a photography club. My photos won some prizes, her's didn't.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^
Yeah...give me a great brush and I still won't paint like Picasso!

Anonymous said...

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/divinedigital.com+scraporchard.com/

Anonymous said...

Why are we still looking at analytic sites?

Anonymous said...

Just peruse ilovephotography.com. These amateurs who don't know how aperture or ISO works, yet have Canon 5D Mark IIs! They use that damn camera on auto! What a waste!

Anonymous said...

oooh how exciting here's more stats...
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/scrapartist.com+scrapbookgraphics.com+digitalscrapbookplace.com/

Anonymous said...

Just peruse ilovephotography.com. These amateurs who don't know how aperture or ISO works, yet have Canon 5D Mark IIs! They use that damn camera on auto! What a waste!

August 10, 2009 7:44 PM
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Yeah that is a waste, no point in getting that high a level SLR if you are always going to work on auto!!

Just get a 450d if that is all you are going to do and give the 5D to me!!! ;)

Anonymous said...

I beg to differ but the kits the CTs get as compensation for making a LO using a Designer's kit is NOT COMMERCIAL USE. You need to know what that means. No money is exchanging hands. The definition of Commercial Use is "Use for the purposes of monetary reward" CT are getting no monetary reward - they are getting a product for their LO - sort of an exchange of a service rather then monetary so Commercial Use doesn't come into the mix for CTs.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I beg to differ but the kits the CTs get as compensation for making a LO using a Designer's kit is NOT COMMERCIAL USE. You need to know what that means. No money is exchanging hands. The definition of Commercial Use is "Use for the purposes of monetary reward" CT are getting no monetary reward - they are getting a product for their LO - sort of an exchange of a service rather then monetary so Commercial Use doesn't come into the mix for CTs.

August 10, 2009 10:09 PM

Well you can't really call it personal use, and the designer uses it as an ad so it is used to make an income. Any real company cannot take a photo and use it in an ad without licensing agreements and such. Money doesn't need to change hands for it to be considered commercial use.

Anonymous said...

whats up with the tagger tragedyann over at dst? she is raisin' the roof...woo hoo...
big letters and pissin' some off
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=205011

Anonymous said...

I would not pay $50 for this!
http://www.misstiina.com/goshop/product.php?productid=16898&cat=0&page=1&featured

Anonymous said...

whats up with the tagger tragedyann over at dst? she is raisin' the roof...woo hoo...
big letters and pissin' some off
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=205011

August 11, 2009 12:26 AM
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That chick is a complete dumbass. I need to put her on "ignore". I love how she brags about how much money she spends like she's the only one in the entire community that buys kits. Wah, wah. *rolls eyes*

Anonymous said...

whats up with the tagger tragedyann over at dst? she is raisin' the roof...woo hoo...
big letters and pissin' some off
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=205011

August 11, 2009 12:26 AM
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That chick is a complete dumbass. I need to put her on "ignore". I love how she brags about how much money she spends like she's the only one in the entire community that buys kits. Wah, wah. *rolls eyes*

August 11, 2009 1:14 AM

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She is a trouble maker, I'll agree, but I also agree with her point about the amount of garbage in some packaging. I don't run into a lot, but then, I don't buy from those name stores either.

Anonymous said...

About tragedyann:

Well, she might be right about some amount of crap in the DL files, but she is seriously rude. I don't want her money. Also, I pity the designers who send her the links to their stores. What a bunch of brown nosers. Everything for a sale *eyerolls*.

Anonymous said...

I was reading through that thread and the one where the list of crap in the zips was more than what was actually in the zip for the kits killed me. A photo of the designer? LOL

I never knew this was an issue but I honestly didn't know some designers actually put all that crap in their kits. I litterally have 2 files..a very small main preview, less than 150kb, and a TOU file. That's it. lol If I have more than 2 or 3 zips that are split, I separate the preview/tou to it's own file. I've always done it that way because back when I started digiscrapping, that's pretty much how it was.

For designers who feel the need to throw all that other crap in there, why not make a simple html or PDF Terms of Use file and just put all your blinkies and photos and whatever other junk you make right in that?

Anonymous said...

Quote TragedyAnn..."I AM BUYING and spending GOOD MONEY....and not a dollar or two like MOST of you, JUST last month I bought $265 just on kits, and I don't have a right to vent how I feel about it!!!! PLEASE !!!"


LOLOLOLOLOL
Well, isn't she just queen shit? I wish I only spent a dollar or two. Someone needs to smack this chick back to reality.

Anonymous said...

whats up with the tagger tragedyann over at dst? she is raisin' the roof...woo hoo...
big letters and pissin' some off
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=205011


I don't know anything about her but I must have just shopped at the same store. There were 5-10 blinkies, several store links, multiple previews etc. in everything I bought. I was so annoyed I won't buy there again either.

Anonymous said...

I beg to differ but the kits the CTs get as compensation for making a LO using a Designer's kit is NOT COMMERCIAL USE. You need to know what that means. No money is exchanging hands. The definition of Commercial Use is "Use for the purposes of monetary reward" CT are getting no monetary reward - they are getting a product for their LO - sort of an exchange of a service rather then monetary so Commercial Use doesn't come into the mix for CTs.

August 10, 2009 10:09 PM

Well you can't really call it personal use, and the designer uses it as an ad so it is used to make an income. Any real company cannot take a photo and use it in an ad without licensing agreements and such. Money doesn't need to change hands for it to be considered commercial use.

The LO a CT makes with my kit is just that a LO. It is used to show my products but I don't consider LOs ads. They are showing a memory, making a statement whatever but there is nothing in that LO saying this kit came from....and crediting the kit in the description is still NOT advertising. Scrappers may use my stuff and credit me and those certainly aren't what you are trying to make ads.

If you truly want to know what Commercial Use means go look it up. It's monetary, not someone doing something for me for the product or an ad or whatever. I just gave you the definition why do you not get it is for MONEY. MONEY has to change hands. If I paid my CT in MONEY then it would be CU. My free product given to my CT doesn't involve the exchange of money. MONEY MONEY MONEY-get it now?????

Anonymous said...

whats up with the tagger tragedyann over at dst? she is raisin' the roof...woo hoo...
big letters and pissin' some off
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=205011

I don't know anything about her but I must have just shopped at the same store. There were 5-10 blinkies, several store links, multiple previews etc. in everything I bought. I was so annoyed I won't buy there again either.

August 11, 2009 8:53 AM
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Yeah, she comes off as loud and a bit full of herself, but she's got a valid point.
I don't think it really mattered HOW she said what she had to say - the brown nosers would be telling her (and those of us who agree with her) to just delete and STFU.
And I'm wondering just WHO is the designer including a mug shot?
Like I really want THAT.

Anonymous said...

Anyone remember the big brew-ha-ha at DST over the 'adult scrapping' site that lots of people got emails from?

Wasn't tragedyanne the one defending the spammer, and calling everyone prudes because they said they didn't want those emails?

I could have her mixed up with another tagger who appeared around that time . . . ?

Anonymous said...

tragedyanne has a point about all the useless crap in files, and the designers who just throw all the files into a zip so they explode all over the place when you unzip.

Her attitude isn't going to get her any results, though.

I'm also curious which designer puts pics of herself into purchases. Could anything BE more useless?? :P

Anonymous said...

I'm also curious which designer puts pics of herself into purchases. Could anything BE more useless?? :P

August 11, 2009 10:13 AM
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Royanna and some other girls in DD

Anonymous said...

I'm also curious which designer puts pics of herself into purchases. Could anything BE more useless?? :P

Maybe another anti piracy graphic. It's a toss up. LOL

Anonymous said...

She does have a point with all the multiple TOU's and blinkies etc that are in some files. I don't however like the way she went about pointing it out.
I wonder if she's going to stop posting in the Happy Place to get free kits from the same designers. Out of curiosity I went to her blog where she brags about how often she is RAKked. Good on you if you are but I wonder if those designers would fall under a different category than the ones whose kits she pays for.
I'm of the mindset that yeah it's a pain in the butt but I have my 'moods' where I go in and do a major cleanout of my files. It's great to rediscover kits I had forgotten about.
What I find is the ones who say, 'no big deal' get jumped on.......by the one, think it's Snaggletooth or something, who also keeps bringing up 'may not be a big deal for those of you on a lot of CT's'...........umm get over it, CT's has nothing to do with it.
I'm not a designer, not a DST lover, not on a multitude of CT's. I spend enough $$ on scrapping stuff, not high end but not low either.
My 1 cent for what it's worth, lol.

Anonymous said...

I'm also curious which designer puts pics of herself into purchases. Could anything BE more useless?? :P

August 11, 2009 10:13 AM
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Royanna and some other girls in DD

August 11, 2009 10:39 AM

^^^
hmm, somehow I am not surprised. Ages ago, when I checked out DD I remember thinking how many pictures of herself that Royanna had plastered all over the site, but for the life of me, I can't understand why she would think anyone would want those pics in their downloads?

And wow, that lizzyfizzy sure seems like another tragedyanne, just with opposite opinions!

Anonymous said...

To August 11, 2009 10:04 AM:
I think you're nuts! You're the one who doesn't get it at all.

Anonymous said...

Tragedyanne hangs out a LOT in the Happy Place. There is NO way, I'm gonna RAK her EVER! If I choose the winners of my kits randomly, I will definitely ignore her participation. She is rude, she's a bitch and she is the biggest trouble maker of the community.
And yes, I do remember the thread about adult scrapbooking and she was treating people like crap back in time as well.

Anonymous said...

And yes, I do remember the thread about adult scrapbooking and she was treating people like crap back in time as well.

August 11, 2009 1:34 PM

Thanks for verifying. I thought I recognized her 'tude. I love that she thinks she's more important than any other customers who spend less money than she (supposedly) does @@

Anonymous said...

Christina Renee finally has a new kit in store ... looks gorgeous. Great to see her back.
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Where?????

Anonymous said...

didn't Tragedy Anne have some thing where she was supposedly in the hospital dying and someone looked up the address her "aunt" gave to send her cards and it turned out to be a mobile home park or something?

Anonymous said...

ROFL! That's true! I remember! the address she gave that was supposed to be a hospital, was a trailer park! She's full of shit!

Anonymous said...

Hmmmm, I too out of curiosity checked her blog and loosely counting she won approximately 15 kits plus a $10 GC, wonder if that's where she's getting her monthly amount spent from, lol.

I agree with the designer who posted, that a customer was a customer regardless of how much they spent, equal importance.

Anonymous said...

No wonder I never win any kits. She is winning them all!!!!!

Anonymous said...

ROFL! That's true! I remember! the address she gave that was supposed to be a hospital, was a trailer park! She's full of shit!

August 11, 2009 3:30 PM

I remember that, too.

It's kind of amazing how many digi scrappers keep having so many close brushes with death, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

I've heard the complaint before about unzipped files just 'exploding' onto your desktop, coz there's no folder. I have never, ever had that happen in all the time I've been scrapping since 2005. Which designers do not put their kits into folders? I've purchased from quite a few different stores and different designers and I've never encountered this. It seems really strange.

Anonymous said...

No wonder I never win any kits. She is winning them all!!!!!

August 11, 2009 4:49 PM
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It's too bad she doesn't know how to scrap with them, lol. Hi tragedyanne, meet "drop shadow", you guys should become friends.

Anonymous said...

re: the exploding files. Irene Alexeeva is one, but I don't buy from her anymore since she went all-out fantasy. I know I've had it happen with more than just her stuff, but I must not be buying from them anymore, because it hasn't happened to me in a while.

Anonymous said...

It's too bad she doesn't know how to scrap with them, lol. Hi tragedyanne, meet "drop shadow", you guys should become friends.

August 11, 2009 6:12 PM

Now that is just BS. After all, she has a VERY successful S4H company, and business is REALLY good, and she spends LOTS and LOTS of money!

Anonymous said...

LOL That's funny!
I really hope she's reading this.

Anonymous said...

Now that is just BS. After all, she has a VERY successful S4H company, and business is REALLY good, and she spends LOTS and LOTS of money!

August 11, 2009 6:15 PM
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ROTFLMAO -- love your sarcasm! After all, how do we know that her S4H business is successful? ... or that she truly buys a lot of kits ;) Don't you remember all of the whining she did when she didn't do very well in the SUTUCS contest? ... Oh, woe is me, I didn't know I would be up against all of these "professional" scrappers. I don't know who in their right mind would pay for S4H from someone that doesn't even know how to resize a photo. *shrugs*

Anonymous said...

Agreed. I really believe that designers should be held to the same standards that they expect and/or demand from others.

However, a few years in digi has shown me that it's rife with designers who have no scruples whatsoever about the work of others, but they'll screech and harp about their own stuff being abused every chance they get. I guess I'm just kind of jaded about it all now, and tired of all the hypocrisy and double standards.

August 10, 2009 5:45 PM
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Just because a FEW designers have double standards, doesn't mean we all do. I have purchased every piece of software on my computer and don't use CU products by other designers as I just don't trust someone else doing the research. I would rather do my own research as to whether the clipart I use is ok for CU. Besides, I want to keep my work original by using unique sources, not the same stuff everyone else uses.

Anonymous said...

I've heard the complaint before about unzipped files just 'exploding' onto your desktop, coz there's no folder. I have never, ever had that happen in all the time I've been scrapping since 2005. Which designers do not put their kits into folders? I've purchased from quite a few different stores and different designers and I've never encountered this. It seems really strange.

August 11, 2009 6:04 PM
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Depends on your software and how you unzip them.

Anonymous said...

The only unique source of 'clipart' is drawing it yourself.

Anonymous said...

Depends on your software and how you unzip them.

August 11, 2009 7:14 PM

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I use the usual, Winzip or Winrar, depending on the file type. But even using Stuffit, BetterZip and a few others, I've never had an exploding file. I guess I've been lucky.

Anonymous said...

Amy Sumerall's kits explode all over the place when you open them. All the ones I downloaded of hers from that design contest are in one big mess because I opened them all at once and they went everywhere.

And if you read the whole thread, apparently everything at DSP will do that too.

Anonymous said...

I downloaded Amy's kits from the contest and they all unzipped into a folder. How strange.

I would love to know who MommyD is. What a coward.

Anonymous said...

And if you read the whole thread, apparently everything at DSP will do that too.

August 11, 2009 7:35 PM
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Not unless you change the windows default for unzipping. (that is if you use windows explorer to unzip.)

Anonymous said...

I downloaded Amy's kits from the contest and they all unzipped into a folder. How strange.


August 11, 2009 7:49 PM
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Like I said, depends how you unzip. You CAN set how you want to unzip in most unzip programs.

Anonymous said...

The only unique source of 'clipart' is drawing it yourself.

August 11, 2009 7:16 PM
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Who says I don't do plenty of that as well. I draw more than I use Dover etc actually. But we are talking about designers doing the right thing, so I was explaining what I do to make sure I get it right.

Anonymous said...

If you change the windows default for unzipping, wouldn't that give you extra folders when you're dealing with designers who actually do put their stuff into a folder?

Anonymous said...

In my experience, the people who feel the need to make a point of saying how successful they, their business, etc. are, are the biggest bullshitters out there. Not to mention the most insecure.

Anonymous said...

Don't you remember all of the whining she did when she didn't do very well in the SUTUCS contest? ... Oh, woe is me, I didn't know I would be up against all of these "professional" scrappers.

August 11, 2009 6:29 PM
^^^^
I had forgotten about this, but now that you mention it, I do remember. That was some classic sour grapes right there.

Amy said...

Anonymous said...
Amy Sumerall's kits explode all over the place when you open them. All the ones I downloaded of hers from that design contest are in one big mess because I opened them all at once and they went everywhere.

And if you read the whole thread, apparently everything at DSP will do that too.

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Wow, I don't know why that happened, sorry! I do always zip them in folders but I did start using a new zip program called ALZip a few months ago so maybe that's why? That's the only reason I can think of. I will switch back to winzip now for sure! I never knew that was happening for some people. Sorry again!

Anonymous said...

Like I said, depends how you unzip. You CAN set how you want to unzip in most unzip programs.

August 11, 2009 7:58 PM
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But if some files explode and others don't, then it would seem it has nothing to do with the settings.

Anonymous said...

yes, I download quite a bit (mostly freebies) and Amy's are the only ones I've ever had do that.

Although instead of having a big hissy fit about it, I just made a mental note not to mass unzip different kits again.

Anonymous said...

oh, and Amy, I appreciate your quick response...I didn't exactly mean to call you out...just to give an example!

Anonymous said...

But if some files explode and others don't, then it would seem it has nothing to do with the settings.

August 11, 2009 8:46 PM
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It has to do with BOTH whether or not the designer has their items in a folder within the zip AND how you unzip them. If they have a folder and you tell your unzip proggie to unzip into a folder, the files will be in a folder within a folder. If the designer doesn't have their items in a folder within the zip and do the same, it will be in a single folder.

It is easy enough to adjust your unzipping method to the designers you buy from.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about XP or on a mac but on my Vista PC in Windows Explorer, I can actually browse and see what (if any) folders are contained within the zip file before I unzip it and I can even pick and choose what and where to unzip. No designer will please everyone. I've had people request specific packing from me in every extreme from zipping every item together but not in a folder to splitting everything up and making several folders. While I agree that too much advertising/no piracy/blinky hell is annoying but if you simply take a look before you unzip, it'll make organization and cleanup much easier easier.

Anonymous said...

*del* second easier.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about XP or on a mac but on my Vista PC in Windows Explorer, I can actually browse and see what (if any) folders are contained within the zip file before I unzip it and I can even pick and choose what and where to unzip. No designer will please everyone. I've had people request specific packing from me in every extreme from zipping every item together but not in a folder to splitting everything up and making several folders. While I agree that too much advertising/no piracy/blinky hell is annoying but if you simply take a look before you unzip, it'll make organization and cleanup much easier easier.

August 11, 2009 9:20 PM
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I can do the same in XP

That is exactly what I do before unzipping.

Anonymous said...

meh. I think tragedyanne is frequently just looking for a fight. She seems to ramp up and start something every few months.

She called everyone prudes on the spam thread, and refused to acknowledge that the issue was unsolicited emails. She just decided everyone was uptight.

Then, a few months ago she was bitching about people being 'half naked' on blogs.

Now she's in a snit because all those kits she's 'buying' have too much 'crap' in them. This quote from her last June is just priceless given her current thread:
"whats the big deal????.....thats what the DELETE button is for..."

Given that she spends so much time in the Happy Place getting her mooch on, I'm kind of surprised she has time to spend so much money and run such a successful S4H business!

She seems to be one busy lady @@

Anonymous said...

IIRC TragedyAnne is a teenager, right?
that explains a lot!

Anonymous said...

from tradegyanne=
I have 21 PMs to prove that plus a few awesome GC and great coupons each reassuring me that the packing is to my liking.
(Thanks gals, you all rock)
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I wonder who the designers are that are sending her GCs and coupons?

Anonymous said...

from tradegyanne=
I have 21 PMs to prove that plus a few awesome GC and great coupons each reassuring me that the packing is to my liking.
(Thanks gals, you all rock)
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I wonder who the designers are that are sending her GCs and coupons?

August 11, 2009 10:18 PM
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ROFL maybe it was all a ploy to get free kits????

Anonymous said...

I think Tragedyanne is hot, do you think she will let me have her babies?

Anonymous said...

ROFL maybe it was all a ploy to get free kits????

August 11, 2009 10:21 PM

lol, it was sure quicker than posting to tons of happy place threads!

Anonymous said...

TragedyAnne IS a TRAGEDY! She just sounds like a smoocher sucking up to get freebies. She needs to grow the hell up! There might be a few designers falling for her suck job but my bet is there are many more who won't be sending RAK's her way in future.

Anonymous said...

This quote from her last June is just priceless given her current thread:
"whats the big deal????.....thats what the DELETE button is for..."

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LOL What a nincompoop.

Anonymous said...

IIRC TragedyAnne is a teenager, right?
that explains a lot!

August 11, 2009 10:18 PM

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No it doesn't. If you look at some of the other replies in that thread, they are just as bad and written by women who are easily over 25.

Anonymous said...

Hi tragedyanne, meet "drop shadow", you guys should become friends.

she spends so much time in the Happy Place getting her mooch on

TragedyAnne IS a TRAGEDY!
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:P These are funny!

Anonymous said...

A lot of the serious snark in that tragedyanne thread is from a certain store's CT. Such a SHOCKER (not)!

Anonymous said...

You know, I doubt TragedyAnne's S4H can be that fabulous, she doesn't even know how to spell! Have you seen her LOs in the gallery? There are grammar and spelling errors everywhere. If I was hiring someone to do a page or album for me, I'd like it done properly.

Anonymous said...

A lot of the serious snark in that tragedyanne thread is from a certain store's CT. Such a SHOCKER (not)!

August 11, 2009 10:57 PM
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Really? I didn't notice it, but perhaps I just don't know which teams everyone is on. Most of the snark I saw was coming from the OP and one to two other gals. Quite frankly the way that TA approaches her "conversations" puts people on the defensive. I also don't believe a word she types. If she really wanted to solve this "problem", she would have put together a thread asking people how they like their kits packaged. Personally I think TA needs to find a new hobby if every little thing is going to bother her. In addition to be acquainted with Mr. Drop Shadow, she needs to meet Mr. Spell Check and Mrs. Sensor button ;)

I'm not sure why TA is so uptight about MommyD changing her name. If she's a designer like she claims to be, she probably doesn't want any drama associated with her store, but wants to contribute to the conversation. That seems pretty apparent.

Anonymous said...

TragedyAnne had a perfectly valid gripe, she just really screwed up with how she handled it. Or maybe not, if she got a bunch of free kits out of her little tantrum. bleh.

Anonymous said...

IIRC TragedyAnne is a teenager, right?
that explains a lot!

August 11, 2009 10:18 PM
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And she is on serious drugs! Go back to high school, TragedyAnne!

Anonymous said...

I also don't believe a word she types.
^^^
Really? I do. Every word of it-especially about how successful her business is, and how much she spends on digi supplies.

:P

Anonymous said...

The tragic one is not a teenager. She's in her twenties. Chronologically.

Mentally, I'd put her somewhere in the toddler years-the egocentric and tantruming stage.

Anonymous said...

12:07 OMG, I'm so glad you're here to keep me in touch with reality! I don't know how I could have doubted TA. She's such an eloquent speaker, I bet she's in law school studen. It's obvious what a superb job she does convincing people by spewing out a bunch of crap :p

12:10 True, true!

Anonymous said...

All I can say is the venom that snagglepuss person is spewing is enough to put me off the store she CT's for.
Love the argument about the shirt with a stain.........umm yeah would you shout publicly from the corner that WalMart sold you a shirt with a stain? You want coupons and free shirts for you very successful tie dye business in the garage.
Give me a break........although it is fun reading.

Anonymous said...

That thread gave me a headache. It had reached the point of diminishing returns, I'm glad it's been closed.

Anonymous said...

Snagglepuss...LOL!!! If either of those crazy people (tragedyanne or snaggletooth) were on my CT they would be gone! What an unfortunate decision for your designs.

Anonymous said...

Oh, it's closed?!?! That is fantastic!

Anonymous said...

Wow, I just read most that thread. Most of those people arguing have the maturity of 12 year olds. There have been alot of posts here against TragedyAnnie and Snaggletooth but the "holier than thou" asttitude of Lizzyfizzy and LilCameronsMom really turns my stomach. It reminds me the old days when one of the "COOL" designers would get criticized and all her friends came over to the thread to be snarky and so much better than everyone else. I tend to think they are posting here also.

Anonymous said...

Yeah I would boot lizzyfizzy and lilcamersonsmom too!

Anonymous said...

I love how lilcameronsmommy was talking about not starting anything, and trying to be adult, but she kept on putting her two cents in, instead of walking away, like an adult. I'm always suspect of anyone who has to define themselves by whose mommy they are anyway.

Anonymous said...

That snaggletooth75 is a really nasty bitch!

And to DESIGNERS who gave TradegyAnne coupons, GC and free stuff, you got so screwed!!! She is going to share them all with her taggers friends and laugh her ass off of your stupidity.

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm sad that DST closed TA's Thread! It was a good read. And that should tell you just how bored I am!

*yawn*

Anonymous said...

I don't know about XP or on a mac but on my Vista PC in Windows Explorer, I can actually browse and see what (if any) folders are contained within the zip file before I unzip it and I can even pick and choose what and where to unzip. No designer will please everyone. I've had people request specific packing from me in every extreme from zipping every item together but not in a folder to splitting everything up and making several folders. While I agree that too much advertising/no piracy/blinky hell is annoying but if you simply take a look before you unzip, it'll make organization and cleanup much easier easier.
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You can look at what is in a folder on a MAC without ever having to open the folder. Also if you use Adobe Bridge you can open the folder in Bridge and quickly drag and drop stuff to the trashcan. Easy Peasy. I can't believe designers were giving her free stuff or coupons or whatever. Sorry I don't need business from a nutcase.

Anonymous said...

it's closed? :( now what will I do to get a good laugh?

Anonymous said...

I just bought some CU flowers, the TOU says credit required in my tou AND the store description. WTH?

This is the last time I will ever buy from her again.

Anonymous said...

That snaggletooth75 is a really nasty bitch!


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No. She just speaks her mind like is done here. There were valid points brought up on both sides. Like who needs an element preview in the paper folder or a designers picture. I really don't think that is needed or the store url in the folder.

Anonymous said...

Is Royanna really homeless? What happened, does anyone know?

Anonymous said...

I just bought some CU flowers, the TOU says credit required in my tou AND the store description. WTH?
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Eh. Credits are more of a courtesy. I use so many items and change them around before I'm done that if I tried to keep track, I'd never get anything done, both with layouts and stuff I sell. I never credit and I never require credits...it's a royal PITA.

Sue me. lol

Anonymous said...

re: ct/cu

CT are COMPENSATED for their layouts with FREE access to the product. They are being compensated for thier work and THAT makes it no longer "personal".

Who is even arguing that.

The argument was over using stock photos on those layouts. (& like a week ago) The second the designers use those layouts in an ad, in their product description, in emails saying "look what can be done with my kit", or they REQUEST the ct post them somewhere {you know 'must post in 3 galleries'} That is advertising. ADVERTISING is commercial use. If there is a stock photo on there, then its commercial use of the photo.

The CT very well may do some layouts other then those required of them, but the ones they post to meet ct requirements ARE considered COMMERCIAL USE of said items.

There is no way you can say - Im a ct member and I dont advertise with my layouts. You get the shit, you use the shit, you post the shit where and how you were told to. With the express intent of ADVERTISING the designer that gave you the shit.

There is no way a designer can say my CT dont advertise my product. Unless you just hand out your shit with no requirements attached and cross you fingers and pray they post something using it somewhere. If thats the case, please post your info, I would like to apply for your CT. Unless your shit really is SHIT, then I understand, wouldnt want it posted in galleries either.

Anonymous said...

YAWN! only thing I learned from that thread is I would NEVER "purchase" from TA....wow what a way to represent your business! Scrapping skills...ehhhh look like me when I first started...spelling..well lets just say my 9 year old niece spells better than her

Anonymous said...

that TA thread is funny. I'm going to try this tactic with my phone company.

"Verizon - I will make no more long distance calls until you stop putting all that TRASH in with my bill!"

oh and at the post office - No more stamps for me until they quit shoving all that shit in my mailbox.

Products in the real world are sold with shit in them, look at all the shit you throw away when you open a dvd, toy, or electronics.

Geeze, find something better to bitch about.

"I will not download another freebie that doesnt include a tou." I call BULLSHIT... How the hell would you even KNOW there was no tou until you downloaded it?

And I really can NOT beleive that designers gave her free shit, after she's been outted for piracy HOW MANY TIMES? please.

Anonymous said...

was it Tracie Stroud she was about to "out" for sending her CT over to defend her?

Anonymous said...

I can't believe designers would give free stuff to TA. I guess the squeaky wheel does get the grease.

Anonymous said...

Every time there's a thread like the tragedyanne mess over at DST, I'm more and more amazed at who designers and stores will choose to represent them. It really says a lot.

Anonymous said...

I think the reactions were a bit over the top. Considering the source of the complaint if no one reacted at all, the darned thread would have never gone anywhere.

Anonymous said...

lol that all that deleting is taking time away from her family

Anonymous said...

Sure, tragedyann is a total knob, but people like lizzyfizzy and lilcameronsmommy come off looking just as bad or worse than the knob who started the thread when they just keep it going and taunt and bait the ones they disagree with. That thread just made me wonder why anyone would pick people like snagglepuss, fizliz, or lilcameron for CTs. yikes.

Anonymous said...

I think the reactions were a bit over the top. Considering the source of the complaint if no one reacted at all, the darned thread would have never gone anywhere.

August 12, 2009 2:11 PM

Yep, this is the typical M.O. in digi anytime a customer has a complaint. Not saying that TA handled it the way she should have, but it doesn't matter. The minute there's a complaint and others start speaking up, there's always at least one designer or store that will send their CT in to bully, belittle, and argue with them until the thread is closed.

Anonymous said...

lol that all that deleting is taking time away from her family
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yeah like posting in the forums doesn't??

Anonymous said...

Exactly how much can moderators know about what posts you read in a forum? For example, if someone searches on a certain topic or person, and then posts here, can moderators at DST tell who has looked at certain threads recently?

Anonymous said...

Exactly how much can moderators know about what posts you read in a forum? For example, if someone searches on a certain topic or person, and then posts here, can moderators at DST tell who has looked at certain threads recently?

August 12, 2009 5:35 PM
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If you are logged in and I click on your profile, I can see what thread you are reading at the moment, or at least, what thread you may have been reading within the last few minutes. You can do the same with anyone at DST if they are online.

Why do you ask? Worried about something?

Anonymous said...

I downloaded Amy's kits from the contest and they all unzipped into a folder. How strange.
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Amy's kits used to do this, but the peace one from the contest she did have zipped up correctly (I was surprised!) I love her kits, exploding doesn't bother me. If I see one of hers in my queue I just unzip it into a folder instead of just unzipping. Easy peasy.

Nicole Young's also aren't foldered before zipped, but I stopped getting hers a while ago b/c they all look pretty much the same. So idk if she's changed it.

Anonymous said...

Melanie Colosimo has posted on DST tonight. I'm glad to see her back & hope everything is okay with her.

Anonymous said...

Why do you ask? Worried about something?


No, just curious. I know any forum reader can see what other forum readers are doing at the time they are in the forum. I'm just wondering about moderators and/or owners and how much they can find out about who has done searches or looked at certain profiles, or who might have been digging up some interesting information... all purely hypothetical of course. ;)


Here's an example: recently a designer was noted as being "banned" at DST, and then just the other day, and again just now, someone said she was back. Can a moderator or owner of DST look at any records to see who all might have been checking out that designers profile or posts recently, thus possibly deducing who may have posted that observation? Not that it's a huge deal, or like they can really do anything about it... just want to satisfy my curiosity. ;)

Anonymous said...

Is Royanna really homeless? What happened, does anyone know?
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Anonymous said...

bummer. I'm not registered for divine digital. I'm nosy, but i am not that nosy! lol can I get a copy/pasted version please?

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there would be a way for the owners of dst to see the ip numbers of recent visitors to any thread or page of the dst site. They might not be able to do it through the admin side of the forum, but they have the stats SOMEWHERE and it is probably possible to match up ip numbers with usernames.

Anonymous said...

<<<<

from tradegyanne=
I have 21 PMs to prove that plus a few awesome GC and great coupons each reassuring me that the packing is to my liking.
(Thanks gals, you all rock)
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I wonder who the designers are that are sending her GCs and coupons?

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Only the desperate ones!

August 12, 2009 12:01 PM <<< ITA!

>>>>I'm always suspect of anyone who has to define themselves by whose mommy they are anyway.

August 12, 2009 1:39 AM<<<<<

HA! HA! You know what? ME, TOO! Any I thought I was the only one.

Amy said...

Hi! I just wanted to let you all know that after some major testing (and frustration) I did figure out that my kits were exploding all over when some people unzipped them because of the zip program I was using (ALZip). ALZip has the cutest little owl icons which is why I installed it. ROFL! Maybe not such a good reason to be choosing programs I see...

Anyways, I would have never known this was happening since I was zipping the actual folder. I am glad it was brought to my attention! Now I have uninstalled ALZip and installed a new one (JZip) and it is testing out fine.

I just want to say sorry if my kits have ever thrown up all over your computer in the past!

Anonymous said...

Tragedyanne hangs out a LOT in the Happy Place. There is NO way, I'm gonna RAK her EVER! If I choose the winners of my kits randomly, I will definitely ignore her participation. She is rude, she's a bitch and she is the biggest trouble maker of the community.
And yes, I do remember the thread about adult scrapbooking and she was treating people like crap back in time as well.

August 11, 2009 1:34 PM

word! never getting any product from me.

Anonymous said...

Amy.......you're a sweetie. Thank you for taking the time to test it out and come up with a solution.
Appreciate your effort.

Anonymous said...

Yeah...thanks so much for explaining Amy! Your the best!

Anonymous said...

So glad you let us know Any. Such a sweetie pie!

Anonymous said...

You are too sweet, Amy! Thanks so much for letting us know!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I will def be visiting your store now Amy. So happy to know your zips are now clean! :)

Anonymous said...

>>>> gag <<<<<

Anonymous said...

Go Team AMY.....

Amy said...

LOL, Now I really think someone is goofing on me after all of those posts. But, ummm...you're welcome anyways! LOL

Anonymous said...

Thanks for explaining again Amy! Your on the ball with this blog. I appreciate it!

Anonymous said...

So glad you got here quickly to explain that mishap Amy! You rock!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I think amy rocks too!! Rock on amy!!!!

Anonymous said...

Good thing you got that cleaned up before you start at "The LilyPad".

Anonymous said...

hehe why would you assume amy was going to lily-pad?????????

Anonymous said...

Because she rocks! Yeah!!! RAWKIN!

Anonymous said...

Amy is the best!

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