But a new designer in a non-established store? No - I don;t think so - new in established - sure
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I have no idea if the OP was lying or not but she didn't say it was a non-established store. She said it was a mid-level store which is not really the same thing.
I was really disappointed in Scrap Matters this NSD. Last year their grab bags were really good, and I bought at least half a dozen. This year not a single one interested me.
I think these are the already noticeable effects of them going exclusive and losing some really talented designers.
OMG, Rachel Jefferies (Captivated Visions), please cool it on FB! In the past 10 hours alone, 10 posts have shown up from you in the newsfeed. Constructive advice: pick what's important, and stick to a couple of posts a day. Soon, you're going to get so annoying that you'll make even die-hard fans like me want to stop following you. Just a matter of time.
(in fact, a lot of designers could benefit from listening to this advice...)
^^^ She has three new releases - at least three of those posts were albums publications. A chat she was hosting. Frankly - all the posts were specifically "business-related". If you don't like how frequently she posts - defriend her.
I was really disappointed in Scrap Matters this NSD. Last year their grab bags were really good, and I bought at least half a dozen. This year not a single one interested me.
I think these are the already noticeable effects of them going exclusive and losing some really talented designers. _________________________
Are any of the designers you purchased from last year still selling there?
She has three new releases - at least three of those posts were albums publications. A chat she was hosting. Frankly - all the posts were specifically "business-related". If you don't like how frequently she posts - defriend her.
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Well, of course it was all "business-related"... it's a business page. Doesn't mean it isn't potentaily ridiculous to post that much in a day. I agree w/ OP, that designers should try to spread their posts a bit more. Maybe post about one new release a day for 3 days. And yes obviously we can all "like" and "unlike" pages as we please. I think OP was the first to bring that up, in fact.
(in fact, a lot of designers could benefit from listening to this advice...)
Maybe you should stick to their fan page and unfriend their regular page? I'm sure they wouldn't mind. I rarely request a friend, so those I have as friends requested me. Either tolerate my musings or stick to my fan page.
I was really disappointed in Scrap Matters this NSD. Last year their grab bags were really good, and I bought at least half a dozen. This year not a single one interested me.
Shabby Princess. She's marketed herself so well and then practically stopped releasing products. Hope she picks it up before people lose interest. She's got such a good thing going on.
I can believe that there are a few designers that made $2-3K during NSD but honestly I'd be surprised if it's as many that have already posted here though. I spent about $60 but it was spread out between several shops/designers.
Since someone asked, in looking through my stash, I have multiple kits from Allison Pennington (Catscrap), Kristen Aagard (A5D), Jennifer Barette (SSD), Kate Hadfield (TLP), Shabby Miss Jenn, Kaye Winiecki (TLP), and Gina Marie Huff (Weeds & Wildflowers). I also use alot of templates from Sara Gleason (TLP), Jenn Lindsey (A5D)and Cindy Schneider (SSD). I've got a kit or two from alot of other designers too, but these are the ones I shop with the most and usually like their stuff.
I buy a lot from Kristin CB, Jenn Barrette & Liella (SSD), Kay Miller and Kristin Aagard (A5D), Kaye Winneki, Kate Hadfield and Sara Gleason (TLP) and Kristin Rice & Creashens (CS).
(sorry if I butchered the spellings)
I spent just under $100 over the last weekend. I NEVER spend that much in one month but there were some good sales and I wanted to stock up.
so what exactly constitutes a top tier store? I know the answer is completely subjective since mainly it's a matter of perception and not fact, but I'm curious what the factors are that make you think a store is top tier. Is it how long they've been in business? Traffic? Designers selling there?
For me, the stores that I consider to be "top-tier" are the following: Lily Pad (fairly unique designers, good quality), After 5 (same - unique designers, good quality), Designer Digitals (only because of a few designers like Ali Edwards, Anna Aspnes and Cathy Zielske though, and man that site needs a makeover!). Used to consider SBG to be the top, but think they're definitely slipping in many areas. SO does a good job of marketing themselves, and yes it looks like a fun place but none of their designers really interest me but for an occasional product. I know none of this matters but I'm bored and felt like typing.
Shabby Princess. She's marketed herself so well and then practically stopped releasing products. Hope she picks it up before people lose interest. She's got such a good thing going on.
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I was thinking this EXACT same thing over the weekend. I've always loved her products, and the quality is great. She's always been slower to release things than most (which is probably why I like her work so much; certainly not created just to make a quota, and it's not cookie-cutter crap like so many other places) but she hasn't released anything other than a template (and those are probably by her team) since, what, the holidays? December? Hope she's OK.
OMG, Rachel Jefferies (Captivated Visions), please cool it on FB! In the past 10 hours alone, 10 posts have shown up from you in the newsfeed. Constructive advice: pick what's important, and stick to a couple of posts a day. Soon, you're going to get so annoying that you'll make even die-hard fans like me want to stop following you. Just a matter of time.
(in fact, a lot of designers could benefit from listening to this advice...) ^^^ If there was a like button I'd click it for this post.
Everything Scraporchard does is business oriented which is great but what about them is original their forum games, blog, and homepage are all modeled after sweetshoppedesigns sad they couldn't be original and do something they thought of... I lol when I heard they asked permission to do that r u serious... ohhh wait they did they did that whole Vegas crap thing woo hoo 1 point for original. As for the ct call good luck with that Designers are Designers stick with that I hate that you all bounce around once your not getting what you think you should from the store your selling at. I'm so tired of following I gave up already it's ridiculous.
You can not like SO's decision, but that doesn't mean they are wrong. It's their business and they can do what they want. May 10, 2011 11:19 PM "ummm for sure they can but who the hell would want to work with that shit? Have you seen the new releases? WTF fuglyness all the way around only 2 things I would consider buying ickkkk."
OMG after this http://www.simply-scraps.net/2011/05/ayo-baby-lets-goto-digiscrapapalooza.html I wouldn't want anything to do with them are they all designers, LMAO?? Stick with designing you can't even dance while sitting,Top Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!!
i liked the SO video. i think its awesome that the designers worked together like that, and work together well. i really liked that some of the people on the video really goofed it up. like let their real selves show! unlike someone (bottom left corner) that looked like a boob the whole time. the chick in the middle was funny. she must be the "picked on" one in the group.
I heard from a designer that's no longer with Scrap Orchard that SO actually designed the Sweet Shoppe. May 13, 2011 10:00 PM
LOL what does that have to do with stealing all the original ideas of the meat and bones, they helped Design what? SO wasn't even a thought when SSD opened up years ago so back to the whole original ideas of forum games, blog posts and Gallery standout on the main page... I'm glad I haven't seen any other store do anything like that Digi-Crap-A-Poolaza video.... Original :?
OMG after this http://www.simply-scraps.net/2011/05/ayo-baby-lets-goto-digiscrapapalooza.html I wouldn't want anything to do with them are they all designers, LMAO?? Stick with designing you can't even dance while sitting,Top Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!! ----------- I think you must be jealous. I thought it was very creative. Good for them for doing something different. You don't see other stores doing this.
i liked the SO video. i think its awesome that the designers worked together like that, and work together well. i really liked that some of the people on the video really goofed it up. like let their real selves show! unlike someone (bottom left corner) that looked like a boob the whole time. the chick in the middle was funny. she must be the "picked on" one in the group. May 13, 2011 10:24 PM
I like the song in the video but that's it. Their real selves NOT!! What a bad info-mercial.
OMG after this http://www.simply-scraps.net/2011/05/ayo-baby-lets-goto-digiscrapapalooza.html I wouldn't want anything to do with them are they all designers, LMAO?? Stick with designing you can't even dance while sitting,Top Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!! ----------- I think you must be jealous. I thought it was very creative. Good for them for doing something different. You don't see other stores doing this. May 13, 2011 10:28 PM ------------ Who's jealous of what I think some one hit the nail on the head with this one I love how the person above said "Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!!" OMG funny thank you for that...
The video is definitely not Oscar worthy. It is creative and fun. You certainly don't see other stores advertising like that. May 13, 2011 10:35 PM -------------------- First of all good for all of them that they can be horrified by this later and creative, NOT you tube you tube you tube geeeshhh Advertising is ok I guess and I hope no other designer's decide to do this
I actually don't like SO in general and never really shop there but I thought the video was fun and creative. May 13, 2011 11:04 PM ---------------- I don't like SO either it is a fun and creative video but mortifying at the same time it's already been said so let's not dwell on the obvious!
I don't like SO either it is a fun and creative video but mortifying at the same time it's already been said so let's not dwell on the obvious! ------------- I guess I don't understand what is so mortifying.
Wow. It looks like the same person came and talked to themselves for a bit there. ;) The shitty sentence structure gives it away....Probably a designer that applied to SO and wasn't accepted.
I honestly thought the SO video was fun and it made it seem like those girls would be a lot of fun to hang around with at a convention. I'm not going and I don't shop at Scrap Orchard but still! I think it was fun!
I guess I don't understand what is so mortifying. WV:iness May 13, 2011 11:37 PM
Here's a definition so you won't be so duhhhh mortifying present participle of mor·ti·fy (Verb) 1. Cause (someone) to feel embarrassed, ashamed, or humiliated: "she refused to accept this mortifying disgrace". oh wait you must have been in the video lol
^^^^^^Scrap Orchard, Sweet Shop Designs, The LilyPad. Though I don't necessarily agree these are the "good" stores. Its all a matter of opinion. May 8, 2011 3:35 PM
yay for all of us having our opinions or we'd all think like you!
I think they should so use this video for advertising. I really like it. http://scraporchard.com/forum/showthread.php?29307-Digiscrapapalooza-2011-Photo-Slideshow
I think they should so use this video for advertising. I really like it. http://scraporchard.com/forum/showthread.php?29307-Digiscrapapalooza-2011-Photo-Slideshow
don't like SO either it is a fun and creative video but mortifying at the same time it's already been said so let's not dwell on the obvious! -----
Mortifying, yeah, maybe if you are sixteen or so, but as an adult? No, dont' think, unless you are wound so tight, you could stick a lump of coal up your bum and in a week have a diamond.
OMG after this http://www.simply-scraps.net/2011/05/ayo-baby-lets-goto-digiscrapapalooza.html I wouldn't want anything to do with them are they all designers, LMAO?? Stick with designing you can't even dance while sitting,Top Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!! --------
WTH? What's having fun got to do with being a designer? What's not top secret is that you are nasty, uptight, stupid and pathetic.
Speaking of the list of initials for stores and them not being around now... what stores have been around for several years? SBG, Scrapbook-bytes, Designer Digitals, SO, The Digi Chick, TLP, SSD, SUN, Catscrap, After 5 has been several years huh?, I don't remember when mscraps started... 2 years ago?
I didn't add Shabby Princess & should have. Also NitWit and Kay Miller if you count their personal stores. Those used to be the only places you could get their stuff but Kay Miller is somewhere else as well now, I think?
Kay Miller is at After Five. Shabby Miss Jenn, Peppermint Creative, Weeds & Wildflowers, OScraps, Scrap Matters, Scrap Girls - they've all been around for several years, too. The only store that's closed in the past year that surprised me was Scrap Artist.
I guess I don't understand what is so mortifying. WV:iness May 13, 2011 11:37 PM
Here's a definition so you won't be so duhhhh mortifying present participle of mor·ti·fy (Verb) 1. Cause (someone) to feel embarrassed, ashamed, or humiliated: "she refused to accept this mortifying disgrace". oh wait you must have been in the video lol
May 14, 2011 2:02 PM ---------------------- No, actually I wasn't in the video. Clearly you weren't either. It's pretty obvious that you are just a stuck up bitch that has her ass clenched so tight you shit diamonds.
I just downloaded the MSA kit for this week. The preview is really really ugly. But the actual contents are not totally terrible. Some of it is actually nice.
I feel bad for the designers who participated in that. It seems like they were trying to help give MSA new life, but IMO that collab kit is not doing anything good for their reputations.
I like and shop at SO, but the constant advertising here is not subtle and it is starting to get annoying.
--- Doesn't seem like constant advertising to me. They are a pretty popular store so they are brought up a lot. I've mentioned them several times and I'm not a designer there or CT or anything else, I don't even visit their forums at all.
Kay Miller is at After Five. Shabby Miss Jenn, Peppermint Creative, Weeds & Wildflowers, OScraps, Scrap Matters, Scrap Girls - they've all been around for several years, too. The only store that's closed in the past year that surprised me was Scrap Artist.
_____ Thank you. I had never visited Scrap Artist so can't comment on that. I don't see why people spend their money at Scrap Girls, very expensive and nothing special to make me want to pay the extra price.
Speaking of the list of initials for stores and them not being around now... what stores have been around for several years? SBG, Scrapbook-bytes, Designer Digitals, SO, The Digi Chick, TLP, SSD, SUN, Catscrap, After 5 has been several years huh?, --------------
Digital Scrapbook Place (DSP) Digital Scrapbook Pages (Digitals) Plain Digital Wrapper (PDW) Funky Playground Designs (FPD) Scrapbook Elements (SBE) Pickleberry Pop (PBP)
Al of those have been around for four or more years. I've probably left some off and I didn't list the others that have been already mentioned
I just downloaded the MSA kit for this week. The preview is really really ugly. But the actual contents are not totally terrible. Some of it is actually nice.
I feel bad for the designers who participated in that. It seems like they were trying to help give MSA new life, but IMO that collab kit is not doing anything good for their reputations. ---------
I picked up the first and second parts, but the last three parts of have been completely useless to me.
No, actually I wasn't in the video. Clearly you weren't either. It's pretty obvious that you are just a stuck up bitch that has her ass clenched so tight you shit diamonds. May 15, 2011 11:15 AM ------------------------- Stuck up IDTS, I love to go clubbing have a sense of humor and I can def. laugh at myself and other people like you because this has you in enough of a tizzy you have resorted to name calling and stating things that obviously could never happen. I am not a stick up Bitch, Just a BITCH because I call it how I want!! I'm not sorry I offended you It shows how hurt u r that some people don't like ur lame video.. xoxo
I'm not the original person who stated they go clubbing but I have to disagree with the only under 20s go clubbing. I'm almost 30 and I do. I don't call it clubbing though. I go out to bars/dance clubs and drink and hang out with friends. Girls nights... definitely fun for me and desperately needed at times. Maybe it's just where you live that only people under 20 go clubbing? My mother still goes out to clubs.
Ah, but you see, you don't call it clubbing, that's the difference. Going to a club is not the same thing as clubbing. Like going to a pub is not the same as a pub crawl.
Who creates quality pre-shadowed elements similiar to Natali at SBG? Not on her CT so don't slam me but I don't want to post at DST because I don't want to wade through the junk posts I'm likely to get. I just like the shadowed dimensional elements she includes in her overlays and am curious if anybody is doing that.
I find it truly ironic that she found that CU piracy while searching for pictures on the internet to use to make commercial use items. I guess the copyright on photos means nothing to her. I find it hard to believe she was only looking at photos that carry a commercial use license.
I don't know what designers are thinking, but I find that so many actions and scripts are just... humm... useless. I find that too many actions and scripts to create elements are really ridiculous. Really!
I see the thread went and bit her in the backside.
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I notice her shops now down for maintenance. It really sucks when all your righteous indignation gets turned around on you and your just as guilty (maybe moreso) as the person you're complaining about.
Why do people here think that when a name is mentioned in a positive way, its advertising?? Why can't someone ask/answer a question without being accused of being the same person mentioned?
the OP on that post, Kater07 is a real life bitch anyhow. always trying to start shit, never satisfied. she did it last year on a rant from CT's. she is NEVER happy.
I don't think she employs much logic either. I get those off and on too and it's because someone's posted in the thread with spam...not because someone's deliberately sending out email. I go to the thread and mark the post as spam...simple as that.
Yeah, from her sig line and other things I've seen her post...I kinda got the impression that she's on the bitchy side.
Question: Do you think that store owners should be allowed to give out sales reports on collabs to the collab partners?
IMO: I think so. You go into a collab trusting your collab partner but when things just don't add up and the partner basically brags about how much money s/he makes but has supposedly sold none of your collab, what do you do? Just take the loss and ask him/her to remove the kits from their store? I don't think it should work that way. Since the collab is yours as well, I think it is only fair and reasonable that a store owner be allowed to give information about it IF a problem arises.
Interesting question. I can't say I've ever seen a designer bragging about how much money they make... but I know I do have OK sales but collabs that don't sell at all. I guess it's a trust factor and that's why I can be leery of collabs in the first place. I think if you honestly believe someone is holding out on you, you just need to take it as a loss and maybe call it even at this point and hope the next time will be better. As far as store owners giving out sales reports, I highly doubt any of them would be willing to do that for someone not directly involved with their store. Though it would be nice to have some sort of proof.
I wont do a collab with any designer who doesn't sell at my store. Period. I get asked to do them all the time by designers who, I feel, are just wondering how much I make or want to kiss my ass so I'll recommend them to my store.
I've outsold every designer I've ever collaborated with. Why in the world would I bother with the extra time and effort? Clearly either I sell tons more than they do, or they're lying about their sales. Limiting collabs to designers who sell in your store means you don't have to worry anymore.
I've never asked anyone to collab and never will. And I absolutely HATE collabs that are sold at a higher price, even though they're the same size (or smaller) than other kits the designer sells. It's just wrong.
And I forgot to say, Yes. I 100% agree that sales of a collab should be given to each designer by the store owner. It's YOUR product. In fact, I firmly believe store owners who sell product by a designer who doesn't have a storefront at their store, should pay them directly. A collab belongs to TWO designers, not one.
Some people just look for problems to bitch about. The attention whore not getting enough back pats from her weekly discussions? ----------------------------------- I don't see anything wrong with her question. You and I must have a total different perspective of what bitching means.
Yes. I 100% agree that sales of a collab should be given to each designer by the store owner. It's YOUR product. In fact, I firmly believe store owners who sell product by a designer who doesn't have a storefront at their store, should pay them directly. A collab belongs to TWO designers, not one. -------------------------------- I agree!
Question: Do you think that store owners should be allowed to give out sales reports on collabs to the collab partners?
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From a store owners perspective, if I had to do this I wouldn't allow collabs in my store. At any one time, we can have many, many collabs in our store, and I would have to generate reports for each collab, and send it to each designer involved. This could take an extra day at least, and for no extra money.
I'm sorry, but if a designer wants to do a collab, they can do the work when it comes to the reporting and paying the other designer.
If you don't trust a designer to send correct reports and money owed for a collab, don't collab with them.
Some people just look for problems to bitch about. The attention whore not getting enough back pats from her weekly discussions? -----------------------------------
She's just keeping it real. Why the hell not say what we think sometimes? Maybe not about a layout *but then again* maybe! For example looking through the Gallery Standouts makes me want to puke sometimes! I love fantasy layouts but omg...get the coloring and the shadows right for God's sake!! Some of them look like plop and drops. lol! Come to think of it they probably are!
From a store owners perspective, if I had to do this I wouldn't allow collabs in my store. At any one time, we can have many, many collabs in our store, and I would have to generate reports for each collab, and send it to each designer involved. This could take an extra day at least, and for no extra money.
I'm sorry, but if a designer wants to do a collab, they can do the work when it comes to the reporting and paying the other designer.
If you don't trust a designer to send correct reports and money owed for a collab, don't collab with them.
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I'm not saying to do it for every collab. I'm just saying if a designer is having an issue with a designer in your store regarding payments, should a report be generated and sent to them if requested?
And of course no one will do a collab with someone that they do not trust. I'm saying that in the beginning you trust your partner completely but then something happens where you start to question their honesty.
Since I'm in this situation now where someone I collab with is betraying my trust and stealing from me, I would be very willing to give a store owner money to generate the reports for their time. I would do anything to make sure I know how much I'm not receiving.
The girl I collabed with is constantly bragging about how much she makes and is saying that she doesn't *think* that she sold any collabs. I got suspicious so emailed the store owner asking for a report on the sales. She said that she can't tell me how much she has made from the collabs since it will violate the contract she has with her but, if I give her the total amount the designer has sent me, she will tell me if it is significantly off the amount I'm owed. I told her the amount and got this as a reply. "Oh boy…yeah she does owe you more. I don't know if I should have even said that but I really don't like if she is being dishonest."
I don't want say much else about the situation out of respect for the store owner who has requested that I keep quiet for now. I really like her and I don't want to be on bad terms. I'm just really fed up with the whole situation. When it comes to a persons money, I am 100% honest. I will never mess with someones income.
This designer is doing A LOT of collabs with people which worries me because I wonder how many other people she is not being honest with. She is basically just making money off of us and its just not right.
Anonymous said... The girl I collabed with is constantly bragging about how much she makes and is saying that she doesn't *think* that she sold any collabs. I got suspicious so emailed the store owner asking for a report on the sales. She said that she can't tell me how much she has made from the collabs since it will violate the contract she has with her but, if I give her the total amount the designer has sent me, she will tell me if it is significantly off the amount I'm owed. I told her the amount and got this as a reply. "Oh boy…yeah she does owe you more. I don't know if I should have even said that but I really don't like if she is being dishonest."
I don't want say much else about the situation out of respect for the store owner who has requested that I keep quiet for now. I really like her and I don't want to be on bad terms. I'm just really fed up with the whole situation. When it comes to a persons money, I am 100% honest. I will never mess with someones income.
This designer is doing A LOT of collabs with people which worries me because I wonder how many other people she is not being honest with. She is basically just making money off of us and its just not right.
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I wonder if you are referring to Laitha, I've noticed she does a LOT of collabs.
i call bullshit because i know who YOU are and i happen to be friends with said store owner as well as said designer. if you can't accept the fact that a collab you're a part of didn't sell as well as you thought it would, because you're shit don't stink, then you got another think coming.
how many of those collabs did YOU sell?
why don't you tell them the WHOLE story, not just the parts you made up and the parts that make you look like the shafted one.
oh wait. you can't. because your a two-faced lying bitch.
who likes to copy other people's logos by the way. yep i saw that too. same designer too. funny how you're so quick to say "oh she's stealing from me" when you are actually the one who stole from her.
miss anonymous here and said designer along with a third designer put up a collab. obviously didn't sell well in miss anonymous' store so miss anonymous starts hounding said designer for invoices. said designer sends invoices but isn't sure that she sent all of them, admits that she may have missed one or two over iNSD weekend. her life has been total chaos the last few weeks and ADMITTED to not knowing if she sent them all and told miss anonymous she would check to make sure before she paid her - which by the way isn't until next month, so what's the rush? so miss anonymous goes off the deep end, threatening to tell everyone that said designer is a liar and a bitch and would post it on her FB page too. next message has miss anonymous politely asking for screenshots of sales reports. and now she's here, calling said designer a liar and says she's stealing from her.
the logos of said designer and miss anonymous on said collab are almost identical in nature and guess what? said designer has been around way longer than she has.
and oh. yea. miss anon is on said designer's creative team. not making layouts.
and yes. she can prove it. she's saved every single message and instant message you've sent her.
ohh... my bad. the logo incident wasn't with this said collab. it was a different collab with the third designer. i just found the preview again. so on that point i was wrong, it was a different collab, but the logo was still definitely copied
I saw it before it was deleted. It seems as though the "said designer" is lying to "said friend" to make "miss anonymous" look bad. I hope "miss anonymous" reposts what to posted again.
Really, I understand that she is your friend but, you have to realize that she IS lying and she IS stealing. The store owner has said so herself. I have a feeling I know who you are and I will email you with all of my proof. You have been blinded by her lies and you have no idea what you are talking about so I am asking that you stay out of it and let her handle this herself as this is not your "battle" and not your collab. And if you are who I think you are you really should look into making sure you are getting your payments for the collabs you have done with her as well since I notice all of the kits you have made together are in her store. There is no need to talk badly about me since everything I am saying is truthful and is not with ill intention. I came here genuinely looking for advice since I was asked not to make this public by the store owner and I can not post at DST for that reason. I did not come her looking for an argument. I did not bring up things that are irrelevant to the situation (such as the logo and the CT layouts). I came here solely looking for advice on what I should do in this situation.
------------ and now she's here, calling said designer a liar and says she's stealing from her. ---------- This is because she is. She is lying about a lot more things now such as me threatening her and me not completing my CT layouts.
------------ the logos of said designer and miss anonymous on said collab are almost identical in nature and guess what? said designer has been around way longer than she has. --------- The logos are not alike in anyway. The shape is different. The colors are different. The only thing that is the same is the letters used in the logo but, we can not help that can we?? If she really had a problem with the logo, she could have told ME instead of complaining to other people. I would have happily changed it.
------------ and oh. yea. miss anon is on said designer's creative team. not making layouts. ------ I am a VERY good CT member and I ALWAYS make my layouts. THIS I can prove as well. The only layouts that I did not make for her are layouts with our collabs and one kit she put out while I was on vacation. Every other kit has had a layout made. Like I said, I can prove this. You are now looking very desperate for "comebacks" for bringing up such irrelevant things.
------------ and yes. she can prove it. she's saved every single message and instant message you've sent her. ------------ This is good! Because now you both should have no problem emailing me showing me proof of all these allegations.
Really, I understand that she is your friend but, you have to realize that she IS lying and she IS stealing. The store owner has said so herself. I have a feeling I know who you are and I will email you with all of my proof. You have been blinded by her lies and you have no idea what you are talking about so I am asking that you stay out of it and let her handle this herself as this is not your "battle" and not your collab. And if you are who I think you are you really should look into making sure you are getting your payments for the collabs you have done with her as well since I notice all of the kits you have made together are in her store. There is no need to talk badly about me since everything I am saying is truthful and is not with ill intention. I came here genuinely looking for advice since I was asked not to make this public by the store owner and I can not post at DST for that reason. I did not come her looking for an argument. I did not bring up things that are irrelevant to the situation (such as the logo and the CT layouts). I came here solely looking for advice on what I should do in this situation.
miss anonymous here and said designer along with a third designer put up a collab. obviously didn't sell well in miss anonymous' store so miss anonymous starts hounding said designer for invoices. ------------ I didn't start "hounding" her for invoices until AFTER her bragging and AFTER my suspicions and AFTER I emailed the store owner who told me she is being dishones
------------ said designer sends invoices but isn't sure that she sent all of them, admits that she may have missed one or two over iNSD weekend. ------------ Said designer is in THREE stores. She only sent me THREE invoices from ONE store. I emailed one of the owners of her OTHER store who told me she has sold kits. Where are the invoices from that store?
------------ her life has been total chaos the last few weeks and ADMITTED to not knowing if she sent them all and told miss anonymous she would check to make sure before she paid her - which by the way isn't until next month, so what's the rush? ------------ Everyone's life is chaos in some way so I see that as NO excuse not to be honest with reports and payments. I have children to feed and to take care of. She does not so she is really not hurting ME by stealing from me. She is hurting them. While the store owner that you both keep referring to only sends out payments once per month, the store that you both seem to completely forget and avoid talking about (in references to sales of this collab) send out 2-3 payments per month. So why is it that "said designer" has to wait to get paid from that store to send payments for the 3 invoices (which totals up to about $6 after the spilt) she sent me? Oh, because she is out spending money that is NOT hers.
The second part of my "part one" got deleted. I give up. I wonder why it is doing this. It makes me question if "said friend" is the owner of this blog.
I think you have said this designer is doing collab with all kinds of people. Why not tell us her design name so we can stay clear of her.
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I REALLY REALLY want to so that the people have collabs with her can check to see if they are getting honest reports as well but, I can not name her with out breaking my promise to the store owner who I promised to keep quiet since this is almost in violation of her contract.
This is why I first asked if store owners should be allowed to send reports of collabs if requested if a problem arises.
It will all be different if you all could guess for yourself but, I will not name her. I will just say that she has been bought up on this blog before in regards to collabs with someone else as well.
As a store owner, I would probably talk to my designer first to see what her take on the situation was. It may not sway my decision one way or the other but I like to get all sides. If I felt there was a problem, which in your case there obviously is, I would let my designer know I was sharing the sales of the collab with the other designer. If the outside designer had proof that my designer was not being honest and stealing or withholding money I would want to know. I wouldn't want someone like that in my store, personally. I share the sales of collabs when both designers are at my store so I should think outside designers should get the same courtesy. Though as mentioned above it would have to be in a situation like the one mentioned, I wouldn't have time to do it for every single collab.
well having 3 stores seems to narrow it down a bit I would think. I'm going to guess Studio Demo She's only at 3 as far as I know and has a lot of collabs, especially some recent ones. FPD is owned by Michelle, though correct me if I'm wrong on that, and she seems to be strict or go by the rulebook so to speak so I could see her being the store owner mentioned.
At least something interesting is finally going on.
As a store owner, I would probably talk to my designer first to see what her take on the situation was. It may not sway my decision one way or the other but I like to get all sides. If I felt there was a problem, which in your case there obviously is, I would let my designer know I was sharing the sales of the collab with the other designer. If the outside designer had proof that my designer was not being honest and stealing or withholding money I would want to know. I wouldn't want someone like that in my store, personally. I share the sales of collabs when both designers are at my store so I should think outside designers should get the same courtesy. Though as mentioned above it would have to be in a situation like the one mentioned, I wouldn't have time to do it for every single collab.
^^^ Thank you for seeing it this way. I do appreciate how much help the store owner gave me though. If she wouldn't have given that "little" hint I wouldn't have known for sure that I wasn't getting the money owed to me. I wish she saw it more of your way too though as it would be nice to know just how much I am missing out on.
I would like to know who the designer is so I know not to buy from them. I'm sure designers would like to know so they don't collab with this person. I can't think of any designers that don't have children and are in 3 stores though I don't know many of them well anyway.
----- I'm going to go with this answer as well. Mainly because of the logo thing mentioned which seems to match up well http://myedeleon.com/2011/05/its-a-sale/
Mye has children - so that doesn't work either and I am guessing we will never know and they feud I am sure is now underway between the 2 designers and neither is going to say who they are. Bad press. Just drama to make this become an open arena to get the other to talk.
Queen Of Hearts also has kids. The OP says this designer has no kids and three stores. I dont know of many designers who dont have kids.
The OP said that this same designer has been mentioned here, by name?, before in regards to her collabs before. I cant find anything LOL. Im wondering if this designer is at an established store? More hints would be nice LOL. There are SO many designers that its hard to say.
miss anonymous here and said designer along with a third designer put up a collab. obviously didn't sell well in miss anonymous' store so miss anonymous starts hounding said designer for invoices. ------------ I didn't start "hounding" her for invoices until AFTER her bragging and AFTER my suspicions and AFTER I emailed the store owner who told me she is being dishones
------------ said designer sends invoices but isn't sure that she sent all of them, admits that she may have missed one or two over iNSD weekend. ------------ Said designer is in THREE stores. She only sent me THREE invoices from ONE store. I emailed one of the owners of her OTHER store who told me she has sold kits. Where are the invoices from that store?
------------ her life has been total chaos the last few weeks and ADMITTED to not knowing if she sent them all and told miss anonymous she would check to make sure before she paid her - which by the way isn't until next month, so what's the rush? ------------ Everyone's life is chaos in some way so I see that as NO excuse not to be honest with reports and payments. I have children to feed and to take care of. She does not so she is really not hurting ME by stealing from me. She is hurting them. While the store owner that you both keep referring to only sends out payments once per month, the store that you both seem to completely forget and avoid talking about (in references to sales of this collab) send out 2-3 payments per month. So why is it that "said designer" has to wait to get paid from that store to send payments for the 3 invoices (which totals up to about $6 after the spilt) she sent me? Oh, because she is out spending money that is NOT hers.
May 19, 2011 11:43 PM
Wait a sec, she said this designer was in a store that paid 2-3 times a month? What shops have bi-weekly or weekly paydays?
Why are you handling this problem so childishly? Guessing games? In the end you'll still be telling us who it is if someone guesses it correctly. So you won't have kept your promise to the store owner either way. When it is found out who you are, this little game you are playing will just make you look unprofessional.
Why are you handling this problem so childishly? Guessing games? In the end you'll still be telling us who it is if someone guesses it correctly. So you won't have kept your promise to the store owner either way. When it is found out who you are, this little game you are playing will just make you look unprofessional. May 20, 2011 5:10 PM ------- Or when someone does guess right they will still say no one has mentioned the right designer. That could have happened already actually. If she wanted to tell who it was she would have already so unless the store owner says she doesn't care I doubt a name will be said at this point. I can see a name being said if it keeps going on without a solution regardless of what was promised to the store owner though. If someone wasn't paying me and I knew it I would have already said something regardless of what the store owner wants. The store owner should want honest designers in her store so she doesn't have problems like this come up at all.
so what exactly constitutes a top tier store? I know the answer is completely subjective since mainly it's a matter of perception and not fact, but I'm curious what the factors are that make you think a store is top tier. Is it how long they've been in business? Traffic? Designers selling there? --------------------- SSD:Paperss and embelies with an Alpha what more could you ask for TLP:Good Quality Kits 9th&Bloom: Variety A5D: Variety MScraps:Variety
alking about (in references to sales of this collab) send out 2-3 payments per month. So why is it that "said designer" has to wait to get paid from that store to send payments for the 3 invoices (which totals up to about $6 after the spilt) she sent me? Oh, because she is out spending money that is NOT hers __________________________________
You've got to be kidding me. All this drama for 6 fucking dollars???
Here's a thought. Go get a real job. You should be able to make $6 in half an hour - even if you have to ask someone if they want fries with that.
And no I'm not involved in this sordid mess at all - I have no idea who any of you are nor do I really care. Well, ok that's a lie. I'd love to know who would drum up this much drama, and who would screw another person over 6 bucks. So yes, I'd like to know who you both are. But then again, I like watching train wrecks.
OMG, Rachel Jefferies (Captivated Visions), please cool it on FB! In the past 10 hours alone, 10 posts have shown up from you in the newsfeed. Constructive advice: pick what's important, and stick to a couple of posts a day. Soon, you're going to get so annoying that you'll make even die-hard fans like me want to stop following you. Just a matter of time. _______________________________
I have 'unliked' a few designers who think facebook is twitter or who don't understand the difference between a fanpage and a personal page. I don't want updates everyday from your fanpage showing up on my personal pages. It starts to look like spam. Enough already.
You've got to be kidding me. All this drama for 6 fucking dollars???
Here's a thought. Go get a real job. You should be able to make $6 in half an hour - even if you have to ask someone if they want fries with that.
And no I'm not involved in this sordid mess at all - I have no idea who any of you are nor do I really care. Well, ok that's a lie. I'd love to know who would drum up this much drama, and who would screw another person over 6 bucks. So yes, I'd like to know who you both are. But then again, I like watching train wrecks.
--------------------- Reading comprehension goes a long way. She said that's all she sent her. Not how much she is owed.
And I forgot to say, Yes. I 100% agree that sales of a collab should be given to each designer by the store owner. It's YOUR product.
The store owner has no obligation to a designer that has no contract with the store only to the designer with the contract and to give information to a third party about one of their designers is a breach of confidentiality regardless that they are a designer in a collab.
I am just an average scrapper, not a designer. I am not active on any CT's, although I have been in the past. I am not active in any "scrapbook community", I don't post on the message boards, and I don't post my layouts online anymore. I read the Digi boards for entertainment, and am constantly amazed at what people share on the internet. I freely admit to reading the scrapbook smack blogs, it is a guilty pleasure.
You can email me at: DSTHallofFame@gmail.com
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I have no idea if the OP was lying or not but she didn't say it was a non-established store. She said it was a mid-level store which is not really the same thing.
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why are we still talking about this? who cares. it's a pointless discussion, and will never resolve itself.
why are we still talking about this? who cares. it's a pointless discussion, and will never resolve itself.
May 12, 2011 11:43 AM
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Some of us are interested. You can feel free to ignore whatever you aren't interested in. That's what I do.
I was really disappointed in Scrap Matters this NSD. Last year their grab bags were really good, and I bought at least half a dozen. This year not a single one interested me.
I think these are the already noticeable effects of them going exclusive and losing some really talented designers.
Off topic, but necessary to say:
OMG, Rachel Jefferies (Captivated Visions), please cool it on FB! In the past 10 hours alone, 10 posts have shown up from you in the newsfeed. Constructive advice: pick what's important, and stick to a couple of posts a day. Soon, you're going to get so annoying that you'll make even die-hard fans like me want to stop following you. Just a matter of time.
(in fact, a lot of designers could benefit from listening to this advice...)
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She has three new releases - at least three of those posts were albums publications. A chat she was hosting. Frankly - all the posts were specifically "business-related". If you don't like how frequently she posts - defriend her.
(in fact, a lot of designers could benefit from listening to this advice...)
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Not just designers...people in general.
I was really disappointed in Scrap Matters this NSD. Last year their grab bags were really good, and I bought at least half a dozen. This year not a single one interested me.
I think these are the already noticeable effects of them going exclusive and losing some really talented designers.
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Are any of the designers you purchased from last year still selling there?
She has three new releases - at least three of those posts were albums publications. A chat she was hosting. Frankly - all the posts were specifically "business-related". If you don't like how frequently she posts - defriend her.
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Well, of course it was all "business-related"... it's a business page. Doesn't mean it isn't potentaily ridiculous to post that much in a day. I agree w/ OP, that designers should try to spread their posts a bit more. Maybe post about one new release a day for 3 days. And yes obviously we can all "like" and "unlike" pages as we please. I think OP was the first to bring that up, in fact.
(in fact, a lot of designers could benefit from listening to this advice...)
Maybe you should stick to their fan page and unfriend their regular page? I'm sure they wouldn't mind. I rarely request a friend, so those I have as friends requested me. Either tolerate my musings or stick to my fan page.
I was really disappointed in Scrap Matters this NSD. Last year their grab bags were really good, and I bought at least half a dozen. This year not a single one interested me.
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agreed
Not just designers...people in general.
May 12, 2011 12:18 PM
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So unfriend them. They can post whatevah the hell they want.
Shabby Princess. She's marketed herself so well and then practically stopped releasing products. Hope she picks it up before people lose interest. She's got such a good thing going on.
I can believe that there are a few designers that made $2-3K during NSD but honestly I'd be surprised if it's as many that have already posted here though. I spent about $60 but it was spread out between several shops/designers.
Since someone asked, in looking through my stash, I have multiple kits from Allison Pennington (Catscrap), Kristen Aagard (A5D), Jennifer Barette (SSD), Kate Hadfield (TLP), Shabby Miss Jenn, Kaye Winiecki (TLP), and Gina Marie Huff (Weeds & Wildflowers). I also use alot of templates from Sara Gleason (TLP), Jenn Lindsey (A5D)and Cindy Schneider (SSD). I've got a kit or two from alot of other designers too, but these are the ones I shop with the most and usually like their stuff.
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We frequent some of the exact same designers.
I buy a lot from Kristin CB, Jenn Barrette & Liella (SSD), Kay Miller and Kristin Aagard (A5D), Kaye Winneki, Kate Hadfield and Sara Gleason (TLP) and Kristin Rice & Creashens (CS).
(sorry if I butchered the spellings)
I spent just under $100 over the last weekend. I NEVER spend that much in one month but there were some good sales and I wanted to stock up.
so what exactly constitutes a top tier store? I know the answer is completely subjective since mainly it's a matter of perception and not fact, but I'm curious what the factors are that make you think a store is top tier. Is it how long they've been in business? Traffic? Designers selling there?
For me, the stores that I consider to be "top-tier" are the following: Lily Pad (fairly unique designers, good quality), After 5 (same - unique designers, good quality), Designer Digitals (only because of a few designers like Ali Edwards, Anna Aspnes and Cathy Zielske though, and man that site needs a makeover!). Used to consider SBG to be the top, but think they're definitely slipping in many areas. SO does a good job of marketing themselves, and yes it looks like a fun place but none of their designers really interest me but for an occasional product. I know none of this matters but I'm bored and felt like typing.
oops. last post was in response to 2:11
Shabby Princess. She's marketed herself so well and then practically stopped releasing products. Hope she picks it up before people lose interest. She's got such a good thing going on.
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I was thinking this EXACT same thing over the weekend. I've always loved her products, and the quality is great. She's always been slower to release things than most (which is probably why I like her work so much; certainly not created just to make a quota, and it's not cookie-cutter crap like so many other places) but she hasn't released anything other than a template (and those are probably by her team) since, what, the holidays? December? Hope she's OK.
Off topic, but necessary to say:
OMG, Rachel Jefferies (Captivated Visions), please cool it on FB! In the past 10 hours alone, 10 posts have shown up from you in the newsfeed. Constructive advice: pick what's important, and stick to a couple of posts a day. Soon, you're going to get so annoying that you'll make even die-hard fans like me want to stop following you. Just a matter of time.
(in fact, a lot of designers could benefit from listening to this advice...)
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If there was a like button I'd click it for this post.
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WTF happened to May 12?
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This is the only blog you visit, don't you?
FYI
http://status.blogger.com/
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This is the only blog you visit, don't you?
FYI
http://status.blogger.com/
The only blog from Blogger, yes.
oh look a new "cu designer"
http://funwithdigiscrap-cu.blogspot.com/
Everything Scraporchard does is business oriented which is great but what about them is original their forum games, blog, and homepage are all modeled after sweetshoppedesigns sad they couldn't be original and do something they thought of... I lol when I heard they asked permission to do that r u serious... ohhh wait they did they did that whole Vegas crap thing woo hoo 1 point for original.
As for the ct call good luck with that Designers are Designers stick with that I hate that you all bounce around once your not getting what you think you should from the store your selling at.
I'm so tired of following I gave up already it's ridiculous.
I heard from a designer that's no longer with Scrap Orchard that SO actually designed the Sweet Shoppe.
You can not like SO's decision, but that doesn't mean they are wrong. It's their business and they can do what they want.
May 10, 2011 11:19 PM
"ummm for sure they can but who the hell would want to work with that shit? Have you seen the new releases? WTF fuglyness all the way around only 2 things I would consider buying ickkkk."
OMG after this http://www.simply-scraps.net/2011/05/ayo-baby-lets-goto-digiscrapapalooza.html I wouldn't want anything to do with them are they all designers, LMAO??
Stick with designing you can't even dance while sitting,Top Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!!
i liked the SO video. i think its awesome that the designers worked together like that, and work together well. i really liked that some of the people on the video really goofed it up. like let their real selves show! unlike someone (bottom left corner) that looked like a boob the whole time.
the chick in the middle was funny. she must be the "picked on" one in the group.
I heard from a designer that's no longer with Scrap Orchard that SO actually designed the Sweet Shoppe.
May 13, 2011 10:00 PM
LOL what does that have to do with stealing all the original ideas of the meat and bones, they helped Design what? SO wasn't even a thought when SSD opened up years ago so back to the whole original ideas of forum games, blog posts and Gallery standout on the main page...
I'm glad I haven't seen any other store do anything like that Digi-Crap-A-Poolaza video.... Original :?
OMG after this http://www.simply-scraps.net/2011/05/ayo-baby-lets-goto-digiscrapapalooza.html I wouldn't want anything to do with them are they all designers, LMAO??
Stick with designing you can't even dance while sitting,Top Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!!
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I think you must be jealous. I thought it was very creative. Good for them for doing something different. You don't see other stores doing this.
i liked the SO video. i think its awesome that the designers worked together like that, and work together well. i really liked that some of the people on the video really goofed it up. like let their real selves show! unlike someone (bottom left corner) that looked like a boob the whole time.
the chick in the middle was funny. she must be the "picked on" one in the group.
May 13, 2011 10:24 PM
I like the song in the video but that's it. Their real selves NOT!!
What a bad info-mercial.
OMG after this http://www.simply-scraps.net/2011/05/ayo-baby-lets-goto-digiscrapapalooza.html I wouldn't want anything to do with them are they all designers, LMAO??
Stick with designing you can't even dance while sitting,Top Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!!
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I think you must be jealous. I thought it was very creative. Good for them for doing something different. You don't see other stores doing this.
May 13, 2011 10:28 PM
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Who's jealous of what I think some one hit the nail on the head with this one I love how the person above said "Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!!" OMG funny thank you for that...
The video is definitely not Oscar worthy. It is creative and fun. You certainly don't see other stores advertising like that.
The video is definitely not Oscar worthy. It is creative and fun. You certainly don't see other stores advertising like that.
May 13, 2011 10:35 PM
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First of all good for all of them that they can be horrified by this later and creative, NOT you tube you tube you tube geeeshhh
Advertising is ok I guess and I hope no other designer's decide to do this
I actually don't like SO in general and never really shop there but I thought the video was fun and creative.
I actually don't like SO in general and never really shop there but I thought the video was fun and creative.
May 13, 2011 11:04 PM
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I don't like SO either it is a fun and creative video but mortifying at the same time it's already been said so let's not dwell on the obvious!
I don't like SO either it is a fun and creative video but mortifying at the same time it's already been said so let's not dwell on the obvious!
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I guess I don't understand what is so mortifying.
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Somebody's crabby and jealous today.
I think it's funny when people tear other people down for having a good time.
Who the heck is the psycho who showed up tonight speaking as if she's been on a three day bender?
Thanks for making my eyes bleed reading your rambling jealous rants!
Wow. It looks like the same person came and talked to themselves for a bit there. ;) The shitty sentence structure gives it away....Probably a designer that applied to SO and wasn't accepted.
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Hahahaha- I was thinking the same thing.
I honestly thought the SO video was fun and it made it seem like those girls would be a lot of fun to hang around with at a convention. I'm not going and I don't shop at Scrap Orchard but still! I think it was fun!
Agreed. I think if you can't appreciate the silliness and creativity of that type of thing, you have a serious stick up your ass.
I guess I don't understand what is so mortifying.
WV:iness
May 13, 2011 11:37 PM
Here's a definition so you won't be so duhhhh
mortifying present participle of mor·ti·fy (Verb)
1. Cause (someone) to feel embarrassed, ashamed, or humiliated: "she refused to accept this mortifying disgrace".
oh wait you must have been in the video lol
^^^^^^Scrap Orchard, Sweet Shop Designs, The LilyPad. Though I don't necessarily agree these are the "good" stores. Its all a matter of opinion.
May 8, 2011 3:35 PM
yay for all of us having our opinions or we'd all think like you!
I think they should so use this video for advertising. I really like it.
http://scraporchard.com/forum/showthread.php?29307-Digiscrapapalooza-2011-Photo-Slideshow
There's a list of initials that stores go by in the DCR. It's sad how many of those store are no longer there.
I think they should so use this video for advertising. I really like it.
http://scraporchard.com/forum/showthread.php?29307-Digiscrapapalooza-2011-Photo-Slideshow
May 14, 2011 2:11 PM
First time seeing this- love it!
don't like SO either it is a fun and creative video but mortifying at the same time it's already been said so let's not dwell on the obvious!
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Mortifying, yeah, maybe if you are sixteen or so, but as an adult? No, dont' think, unless you are wound so tight, you could stick a lump of coal up your bum and in a week have a diamond.
I actually don't like SO in general and never really shop there but I thought the video was fun and creative.
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Me too. I liked the first video and the third, but not the second one, it seemed kinda dull.
OMG after this http://www.simply-scraps.net/2011/05/ayo-baby-lets-goto-digiscrapapalooza.html I wouldn't want anything to do with them are they all designers, LMAO??
Stick with designing you can't even dance while sitting,Top Secret what, Top Secret Idiots!!!
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WTH? What's having fun got to do with being a designer? What's not top secret is that you are nasty, uptight, stupid and pathetic.
Are we still talking about that video?
Speaking of the list of initials for stores and them not being around now... what stores have been around for several years?
SBG, Scrapbook-bytes, Designer Digitals, SO, The Digi Chick, TLP, SSD, SUN, Catscrap, After 5 has been several years huh?, I don't remember when mscraps started... 2 years ago?
I didn't add Shabby Princess & should have. Also NitWit and Kay Miller if you count their personal stores. Those used to be the only places you could get their stuff but Kay Miller is somewhere else as well now, I think?
Kay Miller is at After Five. Shabby Miss Jenn, Peppermint Creative, Weeds & Wildflowers, OScraps, Scrap Matters, Scrap Girls - they've all been around for several years, too. The only store that's closed in the past year that surprised me was Scrap Artist.
I guess I don't understand what is so mortifying.
WV:iness
May 13, 2011 11:37 PM
Here's a definition so you won't be so duhhhh
mortifying present participle of mor·ti·fy (Verb)
1. Cause (someone) to feel embarrassed, ashamed, or humiliated: "she refused to accept this mortifying disgrace".
oh wait you must have been in the video lol
May 14, 2011 2:02 PM
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No, actually I wasn't in the video. Clearly you weren't either. It's pretty obvious that you are just a stuck up bitch that has her ass clenched so tight you shit diamonds.
I like and shop at SO, but the constant advertising here is not subtle and it is starting to get annoying.
I just downloaded the MSA kit for this week. The preview is really really ugly. But the actual contents are not totally terrible. Some of it is actually nice.
I feel bad for the designers who participated in that. It seems like they were trying to help give MSA new life, but IMO that collab kit is not doing anything good for their reputations.
I like and shop at SO, but the constant advertising here is not subtle and it is starting to get annoying.
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Doesn't seem like constant advertising to me. They are a pretty popular store so they are brought up a lot. I've mentioned them several times and I'm not a designer there or CT or anything else, I don't even visit their forums at all.
Kay Miller is at After Five. Shabby Miss Jenn, Peppermint Creative, Weeds & Wildflowers, OScraps, Scrap Matters, Scrap Girls - they've all been around for several years, too. The only store that's closed in the past year that surprised me was Scrap Artist.
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Thank you.
I had never visited Scrap Artist so can't comment on that. I don't see why people spend their money at Scrap Girls, very expensive and nothing special to make me want to pay the extra price.
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Their CU is expensive, but the rest is about the same as most places. I like some, not all, of their stuff because it's different.
Speaking of the list of initials for stores and them not being around now... what stores have been around for several years?
SBG, Scrapbook-bytes, Designer Digitals, SO, The Digi Chick, TLP, SSD, SUN, Catscrap, After 5 has been several years huh?,
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Digital Scrapbook Place (DSP)
Digital Scrapbook Pages (Digitals)
Plain Digital Wrapper (PDW)
Funky Playground Designs (FPD)
Scrapbook Elements (SBE)
Pickleberry Pop (PBP)
Al of those have been around for four or more years. I've probably left some off and I didn't list the others that have been already mentioned
I like and shop at SO, but the constant advertising here is not subtle and it is starting to get annoying.
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What constant advertising? I've mentioned them here and I don't have anything to do with them. I just liked the video.
I just downloaded the MSA kit for this week. The preview is really really ugly. But the actual contents are not totally terrible. Some of it is actually nice.
I feel bad for the designers who participated in that. It seems like they were trying to help give MSA new life, but IMO that collab kit is not doing anything good for their reputations.
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I picked up the first and second parts, but the last three parts of have been completely useless to me.
No, actually I wasn't in the video. Clearly you weren't either. It's pretty obvious that you are just a stuck up bitch that has her ass clenched so tight you shit diamonds.
May 15, 2011 11:15 AM
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Stuck up IDTS, I love to go clubbing have a sense of humor and I can def. laugh at myself and other people like you because this has you in enough of a tizzy you have resorted to name calling and stating things that obviously could never happen. I am not a stick up Bitch, Just a BITCH because I call it how I want!!
I'm not sorry I offended you It shows how hurt u r that some people don't like ur lame video.. xoxo
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You are how old? A little young to go clubbing, but then, only the under 20s go clubbing, because they think it's something cool to do.
NDISB - Natural Designs in Scrap Booking has been around for 6 years.
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I can't believe I forgot them. I knew there were some missing.
ScrapDish have been around since 2006
3scapateers has been around a long time too but I don't think anyone shops there anymore.
I'm not the original person who stated they go clubbing but I have to disagree with the only under 20s go clubbing. I'm almost 30 and I do. I don't call it clubbing though. I go out to bars/dance clubs and drink and hang out with friends. Girls nights... definitely fun for me and desperately needed at times.
Maybe it's just where you live that only people under 20 go clubbing? My mother still goes out to clubs.
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Ah, but you see, you don't call it clubbing, that's the difference. Going to a club is not the same thing as clubbing. Like going to a pub is not the same as a pub crawl.
Who creates quality pre-shadowed elements similiar to Natali at SBG? Not on her CT so don't slam me but I don't want to post at DST because I don't want to wade through the junk posts I'm likely to get. I just like the shadowed dimensional elements she includes in her overlays and am curious if anybody is doing that.
I OScraps is at least 4 years old because they had a 4th birthday
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Rosey Posey at SBG
Kristen Rice of KStudio
Kitty Designs at OScraps
I know there's more, but my mind is drawing a blank at the moment
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/cu-piracy-277674/
I find it truly ironic that she found that CU piracy while searching for pictures on the internet to use to make commercial use items. I guess the copyright on photos means nothing to her. I find it hard to believe she was only looking at photos that carry a commercial use license.
Who owns Me So Scrappy? Is that the site that Ripal started after she left DST?
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Nevermind. I found the owner.
What was the site Ripal started? Is it still open?
http://pandadezigns.blogspot.com/2011/05/new-coffin-action-freebie.html
Now that's something useful!
I don't know what designers are thinking, but I find that so many actions and scripts are just... humm... useless. I find that too many actions and scripts to create elements are really ridiculous. Really!
http://www.cuonly.fr/boutique/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=111
CU? for real? and it is even backward! I wonder if she took that picture herself (the desert I mean).
What was the site Ripal started? Is it still open?
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I think it is called Scrappers Online. I don't have the link though.
DigiScrapConnect
re: http://www.cuonly.fr/boutique/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=111
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LMAO.
I guess that counts as a modification!
http://pandadezigns.blogspot.com/2011/05/new-coffin-action-freebie.html
Now that's something useful!
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With all the vampire stuff around at the moment, I see a use. Not my thing, but I do see a use.
http://www.cuonly.fr/boutique/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=111
CU? for real? and it is even backward! I wonder if she took that picture herself (the desert I mean).
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Hey, it's free. You get what you pay for, right?
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Free or not, I would expect "designers" to have a bit more pride in what they distribute!
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/cu-piracy-277674/
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I see the thread went and bit her in the backside.
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Free or not, I would expect "designers" to have a bit more pride in what they distribute!
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I was being sarcastic and I see only one designer not designers.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/cu-piracy-277674/
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I see the thread went and bit her in the backside.
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I notice her shops now down for maintenance. It really sucks when all your righteous indignation gets turned around on you and your just as guilty (maybe moreso) as the person you're complaining about.
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her blog and FB page are gone too.
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Bet she's wishing she'd kept her mouth shut now.
Is Babette (LBCreations) still designing? Her blog hasn't been updated in quite some time. I kind of liked her stuff.
Anonymous said...
Is Babette (LBCreations) still designing? Her blog hasn't been updated in quite some time. I kind of liked her stuff.
May 17, 2011 8:14 AM
why don't you contact her directly? Let me guess: you can't mail yourself!
That thread is funny.
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Yes, it is. She threw a complete hissy fit by the end of it.
What? Nothing in 24 hours?
Guess we've run out of things to smack?
Why do people here think that when a name is mentioned in a positive way, its advertising?? Why can't someone ask/answer a question without being accused of being the same person mentioned?
Its a silly way of thinking in my opinion.
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Agreed. And if we aren't advertising, we are jealous. Seems a tad limited.
Because this is a smack blog. If we wanted to be nice we would post with our pictures at DST.
That was totally tongue-in-cheek, btw
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It's the idiocy I'm talking about.
and that's not tongue in cheek, or at least, I don't think it is.
Someone's trying to start something, but no one is biting, it must be so disappointing
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/slideshows-layouts-music-piracy-question-276796/
the OP on that post, Kater07 is a real life bitch anyhow. always trying to start shit, never satisfied. she did it last year on a rant from CT's. she is NEVER happy.
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One look at her siggy is enough to say everything about her.
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I don't think she employs much logic either. I get those off and on too and it's because someone's posted in the thread with spam...not because someone's deliberately sending out email. I go to the thread and mark the post as spam...simple as that.
Yeah, from her sig line and other things I've seen her post...I kinda got the impression that she's on the bitchy side.
Alright - we need some spicing up here.
Designer you like who are new to you? Old favorites? Designers you wish would just go away? Who aren't all that?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/comment-not-comment-277932/
Some people just look for problems to bitch about. The attention whore not getting enough back pats from her weekly discussions?
Question:
Do you think that store owners should be allowed to give out sales reports on collabs to the collab partners?
IMO: I think so. You go into a collab trusting your collab partner but when things just don't add up and the partner basically brags about how much money s/he makes but has supposedly sold none of your collab, what do you do? Just take the loss and ask him/her to remove the kits from their store? I don't think it should work that way. Since the collab is yours as well, I think it is only fair and reasonable that a store owner be allowed to give information about it IF a problem arises.
Does anyone agree...disagree? Why or why not?
Interesting question. I can't say I've ever seen a designer bragging about how much money they make... but I know I do have OK sales but collabs that don't sell at all. I guess it's a trust factor and that's why I can be leery of collabs in the first place. I think if you honestly believe someone is holding out on you, you just need to take it as a loss and maybe call it even at this point and hope the next time will be better. As far as store owners giving out sales reports, I highly doubt any of them would be willing to do that for someone not directly involved with their store. Though it would be nice to have some sort of proof.
Question:
Do you think that store owners should be allowed to give out sales reports on collabs to the collab partners? \
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Yes.
Some people just look for problems to bitch about. The attention whore not getting enough back pats from her weekly discussions?
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Yes, like you. Geez. How many times has the topic of constructive criticism come up here? A lot. Go take a nap, you're a little cranky
Alright - we need some spicing up here.
Designer you like who are new to you? Old favorites? Designers you wish would just go away? Who aren't all that?
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Sorry, but this is spicing it up how?
I wont do a collab with any designer who doesn't sell at my store. Period. I get asked to do them all the time by designers who, I feel, are just wondering how much I make or want to kiss my ass so I'll recommend them to my store.
I've outsold every designer I've ever collaborated with. Why in the world would I bother with the extra time and effort? Clearly either I sell tons more than they do, or they're lying about their sales. Limiting collabs to designers who sell in your store means you don't have to worry anymore.
I've never asked anyone to collab and never will. And I absolutely HATE collabs that are sold at a higher price, even though they're the same size (or smaller) than other kits the designer sells. It's just wrong.
And I forgot to say, Yes. I 100% agree that sales of a collab should be given to each designer by the store owner. It's YOUR product. In fact, I firmly believe store owners who sell product by a designer who doesn't have a storefront at their store, should pay them directly. A collab belongs to TWO designers, not one.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/comment-not-comment-277932/
Some people just look for problems to bitch about. The attention whore not getting enough back pats from her weekly discussions?
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I don't see anything wrong with her question. You and I must have a total different perspective of what bitching means.
Yes. I 100% agree that sales of a collab should be given to each designer by the store owner. It's YOUR product. In fact, I firmly believe store owners who sell product by a designer who doesn't have a storefront at their store, should pay them directly. A collab belongs to TWO designers, not one.
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I agree!
I don't see anything wrong with her question. You and I must have a total different perspective of what bitching means.
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Clearly. Even though it's a smack blog, I don't like the word 'whore', in whatever context it's used. It's just downright nasty.
Question:
Do you think that store owners should be allowed to give out sales reports on collabs to the collab partners?
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From a store owners perspective, if I had to do this I wouldn't allow collabs in my store. At any one time, we can have many, many collabs in our store, and I would have to generate reports for each collab, and send it to each designer involved. This could take an extra day at least, and for no extra money.
I'm sorry, but if a designer wants to do a collab, they can do the work when it comes to the reporting and paying the other designer.
If you don't trust a designer to send correct reports and money owed for a collab, don't collab with them.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/comment-not-comment-277932/
Some people just look for problems to bitch about. The attention whore not getting enough back pats from her weekly discussions?
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She's just keeping it real. Why the hell not say what we think sometimes? Maybe not about a layout *but then again* maybe! For example looking through the Gallery Standouts makes me want to puke sometimes! I love fantasy layouts but omg...get the coloring and the shadows right for God's sake!! Some of them look like plop and drops. lol! Come to think of it they probably are!
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Agreed.
From a store owners perspective, if I had to do this I wouldn't allow collabs in my store. At any one time, we can have many, many collabs in our store, and I would have to generate reports for each collab, and send it to each designer involved. This could take an extra day at least, and for no extra money.
I'm sorry, but if a designer wants to do a collab, they can do the work when it comes to the reporting and paying the other designer.
If you don't trust a designer to send correct reports and money owed for a collab, don't collab with them.
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I'm not saying to do it for every collab. I'm just saying if a designer is having an issue with a designer in your store regarding payments, should a report be generated and sent to them if requested?
And of course no one will do a collab with someone that they do not trust. I'm saying that in the beginning you trust your partner completely but then something happens where you start to question their honesty.
Since I'm in this situation now where someone I collab with is betraying my trust and stealing from me, I would be very willing to give a store owner money to generate the reports for their time. I would do anything to make sure I know how much I'm not receiving.
and what proof do you have that this designer is stealing from you?
I would request a list of orders from the store owner if you are concerned. Remember when you are paid for a collab to take out commissions.
The girl I collabed with is constantly bragging about how much she makes and is saying that she doesn't *think* that she sold any collabs. I got suspicious so emailed the store owner asking for a report on the sales. She said that she can't tell me how much she has made from the collabs since it will violate the contract she has with her but, if I give her the total amount the designer has sent me, she will tell me if it is significantly off the amount I'm owed. I told her the amount and got this as a reply. "Oh boy…yeah she does owe you more. I don't know if I should have even said that but I really don't like if she is being dishonest."
I don't want say much else about the situation out of respect for the store owner who has requested that I keep quiet for now. I really like her and I don't want to be on bad terms. I'm just really fed up with the whole situation. When it comes to a persons money, I am 100% honest. I will never mess with someones income.
This designer is doing A LOT of collabs with people which worries me because I wonder how many other people she is not being honest with. She is basically just making money off of us and its just not right.
If it were me i would confront the designer and have my collab removed/retired.
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The girl I collabed with is constantly bragging about how much she makes and is saying that she doesn't *think* that she sold any collabs. I got suspicious so emailed the store owner asking for a report on the sales. She said that she can't tell me how much she has made from the collabs since it will violate the contract she has with her but, if I give her the total amount the designer has sent me, she will tell me if it is significantly off the amount I'm owed. I told her the amount and got this as a reply. "Oh boy…yeah she does owe you more. I don't know if I should have even said that but I really don't like if she is being dishonest."
I don't want say much else about the situation out of respect for the store owner who has requested that I keep quiet for now. I really like her and I don't want to be on bad terms. I'm just really fed up with the whole situation. When it comes to a persons money, I am 100% honest. I will never mess with someones income.
This designer is doing A LOT of collabs with people which worries me because I wonder how many other people she is not being honest with. She is basically just making money off of us and its just not right.
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I wonder if you are referring to Laitha, I've noticed she does a LOT of collabs.
No, its not Laitha.
i call bullshit because i know who YOU are and i happen to be friends with said store owner as well as said designer. if you can't accept the fact that a collab you're a part of didn't sell as well as you thought it would, because you're shit don't stink, then you got another think coming.
how many of those collabs did YOU sell?
why don't you tell them the WHOLE story, not just the parts you made up and the parts that make you look like the shafted one.
oh wait. you can't. because your a two-faced lying bitch.
who likes to copy other people's logos by the way. yep i saw that too. same designer too. funny how you're so quick to say "oh she's stealing from me" when you are actually the one who stole from her.
names?
I'm not upset my part didn't sell. I'm upset that she is lying.
But since I didn't tell the whole story, please tell me what the whole story is.
And what did I steal from her? I'm sure it wasn't money.
And I haven't made up anything. Lol. I can prove everything I have said. Can she? I highly doubt that.
ok fine, here's the whole story.
miss anonymous here and said designer along with a third designer put up a collab. obviously didn't sell well in miss anonymous' store so miss anonymous starts hounding said designer for invoices. said designer sends invoices but isn't sure that she sent all of them, admits that she may have missed one or two over iNSD weekend. her life has been total chaos the last few weeks and ADMITTED to not knowing if she sent them all and told miss anonymous she would check to make sure before she paid her - which by the way isn't until next month, so what's the rush? so miss anonymous goes off the deep end, threatening to tell everyone that said designer is a liar and a bitch and would post it on her FB page too. next message has miss anonymous politely asking for screenshots of sales reports. and now she's here, calling said designer a liar and says she's stealing from her.
the logos of said designer and miss anonymous on said collab are almost identical in nature and guess what? said designer has been around way longer than she has.
and oh. yea. miss anon is on said designer's creative team. not making layouts.
and yes. she can prove it. she's saved every single message and instant message you've sent her.
you haven't got a clue who the hell you're dealing with lady.
i'll give you brown noser.
what's the matter? don't want anyone knowing the TRUTH?
I want to know the truth!
i just gave the truth.
she's a lying two faced bitch.
WOW! Where did my post go replying to the BS "said friend" just posted. I will happily type it up again.
by all means. "said friend" is on pins and needles.
I guess it was too truthful for her because she realizes her friend is lying to her.
said observer is also on pins and needles ...
ohh... my bad. the logo incident wasn't with this said collab. it was a different collab with the third designer. i just found the preview again. so on that point i was wrong, it was a different collab, but the logo was still definitely copied
I saw it before it was deleted. It seems as though the "said designer" is lying to "said friend" to make "miss anonymous" look bad. I hope "miss anonymous" reposts what to posted again.
miss anon doesn't need help looking bad. she's done a good job of that herself over the last couple of months
why would someone be deleting comments here?
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Really, I understand that she is your friend but, you have to realize that she IS lying and she IS stealing. The store owner has said so herself. I have a feeling I know who you are and I will email you with all of my proof. You have been blinded by her lies and you have no idea what you are talking about so I am asking that you stay out of it and let her handle this herself as this is not your "battle" and not your collab. And if you are who I think you are you really should look into making sure you are getting your payments for the collabs you have done with her as well since I notice all of the kits you have made together are in her store. There is no need to talk badly about me since everything I am saying is truthful and is not with ill intention. I came here genuinely looking for advice since I was asked not to make this public by the store owner and I can not post at DST for that reason. I did not come her looking for an argument. I did not bring up things that are irrelevant to the situation (such as the logo and the CT layouts). I came here solely looking for advice on what I should do in this situation.
It got deleted again. =/ The really long one. If it is getting deleted because of the length, I will post it in sections.
Part 2:
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and now she's here, calling said designer a liar and says she's stealing from her.
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This is because she is. She is lying about a lot more things now such as me threatening her and me not completing my CT layouts.
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the logos of said designer and miss anonymous on said collab are almost identical in nature and guess what? said designer has been around way longer than she has.
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The logos are not alike in anyway. The shape is different. The colors are different. The only thing that is the same is the letters used in the logo but, we can not help that can we?? If she really had a problem with the logo, she could have told ME instead of complaining to other people. I would have happily changed it.
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and oh. yea. miss anon is on said designer's creative team. not making layouts.
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I am a VERY good CT member and I ALWAYS make my layouts. THIS I can prove as well. The only layouts that I did not make for her are layouts with our collabs and one kit she put out while I was on vacation. Every other kit has had a layout made. Like I said, I can prove this. You are now looking very desperate for "comebacks" for bringing up such irrelevant things.
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and yes. she can prove it. she's saved every single message and instant message you've sent her.
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This is good! Because now you both should have no problem emailing me showing me proof of all these allegations.
Really, I understand that she is your friend but, you have to realize that she IS lying and she IS stealing. The store owner has said so herself. I have a feeling I know who you are and I will email you with all of my proof. You have been blinded by her lies and you have no idea what you are talking about so I am asking that you stay out of it and let her handle this herself as this is not your "battle" and not your collab. And if you are who I think you are you really should look into making sure you are getting your payments for the collabs you have done with her as well since I notice all of the kits you have made together are in her store. There is no need to talk badly about me since everything I am saying is truthful and is not with ill intention. I came here genuinely looking for advice since I was asked not to make this public by the store owner and I can not post at DST for that reason. I did not come her looking for an argument. I did not bring up things that are irrelevant to the situation (such as the logo and the CT layouts). I came here solely looking for advice on what I should do in this situation.
Okay. So this is really strange. My (Miss anonymous) posts keep getting deleted....
hmmmmm....
I see your post now - it sounds like you have truth on your side.
Part of Part 1: (Again)
miss anonymous here and said designer along with a third designer put up a collab. obviously didn't sell well in miss anonymous' store so miss anonymous starts hounding said designer for invoices.
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I didn't start "hounding" her for invoices until AFTER her bragging and AFTER my suspicions and AFTER I emailed the store owner who told me she is being dishones
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said designer sends invoices but isn't sure that she sent all of them, admits that she may have missed one or two over iNSD weekend.
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Said designer is in THREE stores. She only sent me THREE invoices from ONE store. I emailed one of the owners of her OTHER store who told me she has sold kits. Where are the invoices from that store?
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her life has been total chaos the last few weeks and ADMITTED to not knowing if she sent them all and told miss anonymous she would check to make sure before she paid her - which by the way isn't until next month, so what's the rush?
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Everyone's life is chaos in some way so I see that as NO excuse not to be honest with reports and payments. I have children to feed and to take care of. She does not so she is really not hurting ME by stealing from me. She is hurting them. While the store owner that you both keep referring to only sends out payments once per month, the store that you both seem to completely forget and avoid talking about (in references to sales of this collab) send out 2-3 payments per month. So why is it that "said designer" has to wait to get paid from that store to send payments for the 3 invoices (which totals up to about $6 after the spilt) she sent me? Oh, because she is out spending money that is NOT hers.
this is really annoying without any names to go on.
this is really annoying without any names to go on.
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I'm sorry. I really wish I could name names but, I can't out of respect and privacy of the store owner I have been in contact with.
I think you have said this designer is doing collab with all kinds of people. Why not tell us her design name so we can stay clear of her.
The second part of my "part one" got deleted. I give up. I wonder why it is doing this. It makes me question if "said friend" is the owner of this blog.
I think you have said this designer is doing collab with all kinds of people. Why not tell us her design name so we can stay clear of her.
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I REALLY REALLY want to so that the people have collabs with her can check to see if they are getting honest reports as well but, I can not name her with out breaking my promise to the store owner who I promised to keep quiet since this is almost in violation of her contract.
This is why I first asked if store owners should be allowed to send reports of collabs if requested if a problem arises.
It will all be different if you all could guess for yourself but, I will not name her. I will just say that she has been bought up on this blog before in regards to collabs with someone else as well.
why would someone be deleting comments here?
May 19, 2011 11:30 PM
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No one is deleting comments, despite what some people think. It's just blogger messing around.
So the clues we have so far are:
Said designer is in 3 stores
Said designer has no children
Said designer does lots of collabs
Who fits those descriptions?
Seems to me you already broke your promise to the owner by coming here and giving the story for the world to see.
You may not be stealing money, but you're as trustworthy as the other party in this story, i.e. NOT.
I'll be happy when names come out so I know which TWO persons to add to my list to avoid.
Lol. I didn't break the promise. I have not told anyone who the store owner is.
So the clues we have so far are:
Shilo fits the description. No children, every kit she's done has been a collab, she's in 3 stores...
No,Its not Shilo either.
"Miss anonymous"
As a store owner, I would probably talk to my designer first to see what her take on the situation was. It may not sway my decision one way or the other but I like to get all sides. If I felt there was a problem, which in your case there obviously is, I would let my designer know I was sharing the sales of the collab with the other designer. If the outside designer had proof that my designer was not being honest and stealing or withholding money I would want to know. I wouldn't want someone like that in my store, personally.
I share the sales of collabs when both designers are at my store so I should think outside designers should get the same courtesy. Though as mentioned above it would have to be in a situation like the one mentioned, I wouldn't have time to do it for every single collab.
well having 3 stores seems to narrow it down a bit I would think.
I'm going to guess Studio Demo
She's only at 3 as far as I know and has a lot of collabs, especially some recent ones. FPD is owned by Michelle, though correct me if I'm wrong on that, and she seems to be strict or go by the rulebook so to speak so I could see her being the store owner mentioned.
At least something interesting is finally going on.
Studio Demo has children.
As a store owner, I would probably talk to my designer first to see what her take on the situation was. It may not sway my decision one way or the other but I like to get all sides. If I felt there was a problem, which in your case there obviously is, I would let my designer know I was sharing the sales of the collab with the other designer. If the outside designer had proof that my designer was not being honest and stealing or withholding money I would want to know. I wouldn't want someone like that in my store, personally.
I share the sales of collabs when both designers are at my store so I should think outside designers should get the same courtesy. Though as mentioned above it would have to be in a situation like the one mentioned, I wouldn't have time to do it for every single collab.
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Thank you for seeing it this way. I do appreciate how much help the store owner gave me though. If she wouldn't have given that "little" hint I wouldn't have known for sure that I wasn't getting the money owed to me. I wish she saw it more of your way too though as it would be nice to know just how much I am missing out on.
No, its not Studio Demo either.
I would like to know who the designer is so I know not to buy from them. I'm sure designers would like to know so they don't collab with this person.
I can't think of any designers that don't have children and are in 3 stores though I don't know many of them well anyway.
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What? Nothing in 24 hours?
May 18, 2011 6:18 PM
That was the calm before the storm that rages.
Trixie Craps doesn't have any kids, is in a million stores and does a bunch of collabs to try to make herself look good.
That's who I was thinking as well.
I love guessing games! My guess is Spinky Dink Scraps.
I don't see where Trixie does many kit with too many designers besides her buddy Connie. So I don't think that is who it is either.
Or is it Mye De Leon?
Or is it Mye De Leon?
May 20, 2011 10:27 AM
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I'm going to go with this answer as well. Mainly because of the logo thing mentioned which seems to match up well http://myedeleon.com/2011/05/its-a-sale/
Mye has children - so that doesn't work either and I am guessing we will never know and they feud I am sure is now underway between the 2 designers and neither is going to say who they are. Bad press. Just drama to make this become an open arena to get the other to talk.
So it sounds like it's a collab between 3 people? Or am I reading that wrong?
Yes, it does say a third designer. I can only think of one thing out with 3 designers around NSD. The one with Shilo, Jen Yurko, and Amy Stoffel
Its kind of pathetic that you are playing the guessing game. There are too many possibilities.
She already said not Shilo. And I believe jen and amy have children.
Someone said it wasn't Shilo. That doesn't mean it was the op, or that she was telling the truth if it was the op.
There was a collab by Studio Demo, Bean Bunny and Shilo Designs at the end of April.
my bet is on that collab that had Queen of Hearts in on it ... anyone remember who her insd collab was with? I believe it was 2 other people.
It was with Micheline - and only her
Queen Of Hearts also has kids.
The OP says this designer has no kids and three stores.
I dont know of many designers who dont have kids.
The OP said that this same designer has been mentioned here, by name?, before in regards to her collabs before. I cant find anything LOL.
Im wondering if this designer is at an established store? More hints would be nice LOL. There are SO many designers that its hard to say.
The only three way collab I saw at iNSD was that 3 designers and a grab bag thing with Shilo, Jen Yurko and Amy Stoffel.
Part of Part 1: (Again)
miss anonymous here and said designer along with a third designer put up a collab. obviously didn't sell well in miss anonymous' store so miss anonymous starts hounding said designer for invoices.
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I didn't start "hounding" her for invoices until AFTER her bragging and AFTER my suspicions and AFTER I emailed the store owner who told me she is being dishones
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said designer sends invoices but isn't sure that she sent all of them, admits that she may have missed one or two over iNSD weekend.
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Said designer is in THREE stores. She only sent me THREE invoices from ONE store. I emailed one of the owners of her OTHER store who told me she has sold kits. Where are the invoices from that store?
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her life has been total chaos the last few weeks and ADMITTED to not knowing if she sent them all and told miss anonymous she would check to make sure before she paid her - which by the way isn't until next month, so what's the rush?
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Everyone's life is chaos in some way so I see that as NO excuse not to be honest with reports and payments. I have children to feed and to take care of. She does not so she is really not hurting ME by stealing from me. She is hurting them. While the store owner that you both keep referring to only sends out payments once per month, the store that you both seem to completely forget and avoid talking about (in references to sales of this collab) send out 2-3 payments per month. So why is it that "said designer" has to wait to get paid from that store to send payments for the 3 invoices (which totals up to about $6 after the spilt) she sent me? Oh, because she is out spending money that is NOT hers.
May 19, 2011 11:43 PM
Wait a sec, she said this designer was in a store that paid 2-3 times a month? What shops have bi-weekly or weekly paydays?
I think Sugar Hill does weekly.
I am the OP. the person has not been mentioned yet. I have no reason to lie about who it is since I WISH I could tell.
"Miss anonymous"
Why are you handling this problem so childishly? Guessing games? In the end you'll still be telling us who it is if someone guesses it correctly. So you won't have kept your promise to the store owner either way. When it is found out who you are, this little game you are playing will just make you look unprofessional.
Why are you handling this problem so childishly? Guessing games? In the end you'll still be telling us who it is if someone guesses it correctly. So you won't have kept your promise to the store owner either way. When it is found out who you are, this little game you are playing will just make you look unprofessional.
May 20, 2011 5:10 PM
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Or when someone does guess right they will still say no one has mentioned the right designer. That could have happened already actually. If she wanted to tell who it was she would have already so unless the store owner says she doesn't care I doubt a name will be said at this point.
I can see a name being said if it keeps going on without a solution regardless of what was promised to the store owner though. If someone wasn't paying me and I knew it I would have already said something regardless of what the store owner wants. The store owner should want honest designers in her store so she doesn't have problems like this come up at all.
Personally I think the entire collab issue is just a made up story for drama.
Coming to this blog period makes us all look unprofessional.
Why are you handling this problem so childishly? Guessing games?
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She's not the one playing guessing games.
I find it funny that after leaving here yesterday I would come back and know which names would be mentioned. I was right.
Coming to this blog period makes us all look unprofessional.
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I'm just a scrapper, it doesn't make me look anything except a gossip.
so what exactly constitutes a top tier store? I know the answer is completely subjective since mainly it's a matter of perception and not fact, but I'm curious what the factors are that make you think a store is top tier. Is it how long they've been in business? Traffic? Designers selling there?
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SSD:Paperss and embelies with an Alpha what more could you ask for
TLP:Good Quality Kits
9th&Bloom: Variety
A5D: Variety
MScraps:Variety
alking about (in references to sales of this collab) send out 2-3 payments per month. So why is it that "said designer" has to wait to get paid from that store to send payments for the 3 invoices (which totals up to about $6 after the spilt) she sent me? Oh, because she is out spending money that is NOT hers
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You've got to be kidding me. All this drama for 6 fucking dollars???
Here's a thought. Go get a real job. You should be able to make $6 in half an hour - even if you have to ask someone if they want fries with that.
And no I'm not involved in this sordid mess at all - I have no idea who any of you are nor do I really care. Well, ok that's a lie. I'd love to know who would drum up this much drama, and who would screw another person over 6 bucks. So yes, I'd like to know who you both are. But then again, I like watching train wrecks.
OMG, Rachel Jefferies (Captivated Visions), please cool it on FB! In the past 10 hours alone, 10 posts have shown up from you in the newsfeed. Constructive advice: pick what's important, and stick to a couple of posts a day. Soon, you're going to get so annoying that you'll make even die-hard fans like me want to stop following you. Just a matter of time.
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I have 'unliked' a few designers who think facebook is twitter or who don't understand the difference between a fanpage and a personal page. I don't want updates everyday from your fanpage showing up on my personal pages. It starts to look like spam. Enough already.
You've got to be kidding me. All this drama for 6 fucking dollars???
Here's a thought. Go get a real job. You should be able to make $6 in half an hour - even if you have to ask someone if they want fries with that.
And no I'm not involved in this sordid mess at all - I have no idea who any of you are nor do I really care. Well, ok that's a lie. I'd love to know who would drum up this much drama, and who would screw another person over 6 bucks. So yes, I'd like to know who you both are. But then again, I like watching train wrecks.
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Reading comprehension goes a long way. She said that's all she sent her. Not how much she is owed.
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That's what I read too.
And I forgot to say, Yes. I 100% agree that sales of a collab should be given to each designer by the store owner. It's YOUR product.
The store owner has no obligation to a designer that has no contract with the store only to the designer with the contract and to give information to a third party about one of their designers is a breach of confidentiality regardless that they are a designer in a collab.
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