Saturday, June 5, 2010

New Space

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Anonymous said...

Help me out please. I'm a newer designer and I was just contacted by a 'Kate'. Could someone please point me in the direction to find out what went down surrounding 'Kate' and Digital Candy? thanks

Anonymous said...

Is this Kate person the same as sonshinekate?

Anonymous said...

It's common; so common I thought it was an industry standard. I don't have time to go look at challenge forums right now, but I just ran into it again this week. Here is Sweet Shoppe Designs' take on it for the June Portfolio challenge:

"It can be a retired kit from a CURRENT designer but not a current kit from a designer no longer at SSD (but once was)"

Anonymous said...

I think that means you can't use a kit by a designer that left SSD if the kit you are using was never at SSD (is at the ex designers new store only). If you bought a kit at SSD and that designer is no longer there it should be okay to use that kit. That's my understanding of that anyway.

Anonymous said...

I understood it to mean that if the designer no longer sells at SSD, you can't use her kits, period.

Anonymous said...

Can we talk a little about the SCAv2? I am so underwhelmed by the entries, but it looks like 90% of them are self-nominating, and it really shows. Last year made more sense, with seperate catagories for submitted and nominated.

They really screwed this contest up one side and down the other.

Anonymous said...

I haven't checked the new SCA and have no desire to. It was obvious that they had no clue in the first one; and second time around a month or so down the track was not going to give them new insight.

Anonymous said...

http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/product.php?productid=1405&cat=0&page=1

Fastination? LOL someone should spell check at least the previews here.

Anonymous said...

http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/product.php?productid=1405&cat=0&page=1

Fastination? LOL someone should spell check at least the previews here.
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Hell, print media even has typos and spelling mistakes. As long as everything is correct in the kit I could care less. What galls me is when I get a kit by someone from the Eastern hemisphere and there are phrases such as 'our friendship last forever' or 'a winner is someone who never give up'. Hell-O use an s where one is called for!

Anonymous said...

Could someone please point me in the direction to find out what went down surrounding 'Kate' and Digital Candy? thanks
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Kate and her husband Rick used to own Digital Candy. There was a big drama blow up because of her association with Amanda Dykan/Lillyanne Taylor who was a total scam artist and is probably still around scamming people. It's not real clear if the accusations made against Kate were true, and most people were willing to give her the benefit of the doubt until she stopped communication and closed her site.

There was something about her using CU from designers in her store without permission too. She claimed it was by accident. Not sure how such a thing can be done by accident.

Anonymous said...

Which Kate is she? Surname??

Anonymous said...

http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/product.php?productid=1405&cat=0&page=1

Fastination? LOL someone should spell check at least the previews here.
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Hell, print media even has typos and spelling mistakes. As long as everything is correct in the kit I could care less.
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It's not correct in the kit, which is why the OP pointed it out.

Spelling errors occur all the time in word art and quite a lot of them are by people who should know better.

Anonymous said...

If you look @ the previews tho, the word fascination is spelled correctly and a few of the layouts.

Anonymous said...

http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/product.php?productid=1405&cat=0&page=1

Fastination? LOL someone should spell check at least the previews here.
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Hell, print media even has typos and spelling mistakes. As long as everything is correct in the kit I could care less. What galls me is when I get a kit by someone from the Eastern hemisphere and there are phrases such as 'our friendship last forever' or 'a winner is someone who never give up'. Hell-O use an s where one is called for!

June 6, 2010 1:22 PM

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It IS WORD ART IN the kit. I wouldn't attempt to sell in a foreign market in which I was anything less than 100% proficient. This is bogus shit here.

Anonymous said...

If you look @ the previews tho, the word fascination is spelled correctly and a few of the layouts.

June 6, 2010 7:14 PM

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Never check if the MAIN preview has a glaring error.

Note to designers.

Anonymous said...

Oh ja mean like dis:

http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/images/cache/3f43171b618d1e69ddc883aa89b79726.jpg
http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/images/cache/0f5a274588707f3aa59f9215a99d0fca.jpg
http://www.afterfivedesigns.com/shoppe/images/cache/2120f28d60a085f1b1cab49f60c14139.jpg

Anonymous said...

If you look @ the previews tho, the word fascination is spelled correctly and a few of the layouts.

June 6, 2010 7:14 PM

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A few? I only saw one layout that had the word spelled correctly and I'm guessing she did that herself. On all the other layouts, it's incorrect.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^

My mistake, two were correct. Four were wrong and the others didn't use it.

Anonymous said...

Have you purchased her kit? I'm certain that if you contact her and let her know that there is a spelling error, she will replace the element for you. People make mistakes, it's part of being human.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^

Oh please, what a pathetic excuse. She has a CT, they should have let her know. She has a store, they should have let her know.

It's not my job as a customer to let her know her mistakes.

Anonymous said...

^^^
You could always do it from the goodness of your heart.

Anonymous said...

^^^^

As could you.

Anonymous said...

Alas, there is nary a spot of humanity in the deep dark black depths of the membrane that is purported to be my heart.

Anonymous said...

I prefer to use the goodness of my heart for things that actually matter.

Anonymous said...

such as spreading goodwill and cheer to those in need, no doubt

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^

Oh please, what a pathetic excuse. She has a CT, they should have let her know. She has a store, they should have let her know.

It's not my job as a customer to let her know her mistakes.

June 6, 2010 8:04 PM
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Actually I wasn't making excuses for her. I was just saying that if you've purchased a kit with an element in it that has an error, it is within your rights to ask for a replacement. Obviously it's not your "job" to tell her she's made a mistake.

I was merely suggesting an easy fix to your situation. But I guess you weren't looking for a fix. You are obviously just wanting to bitch which is no skin off my back.
Although for your family's sake, I hope you aren't this hyper critcal with everyone in your life who makes a small mistake.

Anonymous said...

Although for your family's sake, I hope you aren't this hyper critcal with everyone in your life who makes a small mistake.

June 6, 2010 10:10 PM
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And I hope for your family's sake that your aren't that preachy and sanctimonious as you appear to be here.

I wasn't being hyper critical, but you sure do like your extremes, don't you?

Anonymous said...

^^^^
Oh, and before you pick me up on it, I realize it should be 'you aren't' and not 'your'. But then, I'm not selling it, so what does it matter?

Anonymous said...

^^^
shoulda googled it

Anonymous said...

Ouch! I think the OP didn't hype her kit enough to be honest. Just kinda threw it up there ... ya want it? Leave a message after the beep.

Sure, why not ... tell her you want it but you hadn't seen it before. Sometimes ya gotta bump up the thread for people to actually see those.

I don't play the Happy Place cause it's used only to promote new kits. I wonder if she ever sold any? That oughta tell her something right there.

Anonymous said...

But I guess you weren't looking for a fix. You are obviously just wanting to bitch which is no skin off my back.
Although for your family's sake, I hope you aren't this hyper critcal with everyone in your life who makes a small mistake.

June 6, 2010 10:10 PM

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Wow, the only one bitching here is you. What a tirade. Geez, I hope for your family's sake they don't find out just how much of a bitch you can be.

Anonymous said...

^^^
Is this a double post? Or are your insults really just not that original.

Anonymous said...

http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/happy-place-31/win-%2A%2Anew-kit-kristi-w-designs-240178/

I do not know who all goes to the Happy Place but I felt like posting to this poor Designer, You go girl. She got right on there and stated how she felt. I think the kit is cute and especially for free. I would have asked for it, I did not see it until now but it looks like it has been up there for awhile and not one person replied to her. Do you think it would be horrible if I said I would like to have it?

June 6, 2010 10:49 PM
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She's being a bit dramatic. She's made four posts prior to this in the Happy Place and received responses.

Personally, I wouldn't pick up that kit for free. The colors are just a little off. They look cheap.

Anonymous said...

^^^
Is this a double post? Or are your insults really just not that original.

June 6, 2010 11:09 PM

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No double post. It must have been someone else.

Anonymous said...

Wow, the only one bitching here is you. What a tirade. Geez, I hope for your family's sake they don't find out just how much of a bitch you can be.

June 6, 2010 11:07 PM
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Sorry you lost me. How does expressing sympathy for someone who made a mistake make someone a bitch?

I guess I was being a little bitchy. But only to you. And you kind of asked for it.

Anonymous said...

"Fastination? LOL someone should spell check at least the previews here."

Could be worse ... flatitnation

Anonymous said...

I guess I was being a little bitchy. But only to you. And you kind of asked for it.

June 6, 2010 11:18 PM

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How? Because I said she should have checked her spelling and if she wasn't sure, she should have checked with her CT? How is that asking for it? How is that even being hypercritical?

Anonymous said...

How? Because I said she should have checked her spelling and if she wasn't sure, she should have checked with her CT? How is that asking for it? How is that even being hypercritical?

June 6, 2010 11:45 PM

^^^^^^
Whoa! That is quite selective editing there. I believe the original response was:

"Oh please, what a pathetic excuse. She has a CT, they should have let her know. She has a store, they should have let her know.

It's not my job as a customer to let her know her mistakes."

June 6, 2010 8:04 PM

Anonymous said...

Yes, and? It's still not being hypercritical. It' what every designer should do. Double and triple check their work.

Anonymous said...

^^^^
Wow. Selecting reading as well.

This is what was posted:

"I guess I was being a little bitchy. But only to you. And you kind of asked for it."

June 6, 2010 11:18 PM
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Hyper-critcialness was not rementioned.

Anonymous said...

She'd already removed her comment before I had a chance to look. What did she say?

Anonymous said...

She'd already removed her comment before I had a chance to look. What did she say?

June 7, 2010 12:47 AM

Something along the lines of, "Gee thanks everybody ... it's nice to know that my work is not good enough to even give away."

Wahhhh.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

^^^^
Wow. Selecting reading as well.

This is what was posted:

"I guess I was being a little bitchy. But only to you. And you kind of asked for it."

June 6, 2010 11:18 PM
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Hyper-critcialness was not rementioned.

June 7, 2010 12:37 AM

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WTF are you talking about? You mentioned I was being hypercritical and then when I called you out for being a bitch, you said I deserved it. You are having episodes of selective memory.

See? Hypercritical was mentioned, or did you forget?

Anonymous said...

Hmmm, that thread with the kit had 52 views earlier today and now it has 75. This blog obviously has more than three readers, unless we all kept checking on it.

The kit in the store has been reduced by 77%.

Anonymous said...

^^^

You must have really disliked that redheaded angel baby

Anonymous said...

Le Sigh
Just for you, copied, pasted and typed s.l.o.w.l.y.

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Hyper-criticalness was not REMENTIONED

June 7, 2010 12:37 AM

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WTF are you talking about? You mentioned I was being hypercritical and then when I called you out for being a bitch, you said I deserved it. You are having episodes of selective memory.

See? Hypercritical was mentioned, or did you forget?

June 7, 2010 1:47 AM

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Selective reading, yet again.

Tsk-tsk.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^

Tsk, tsk, still in denial and still losing your memory. Getting old must be so wearying for you.

Anonymous said...

^^^^
On the contrary dearest child. One should always embrace the wisdom and maturity that comes with years of experience. Perhaps once you shed the bonds of rash youthfulness, you will find the experience quite gratifying. Honestly, my altruistic nature knows no bounds.

Anonymous said...

...satanic looking children...

LOL

Anonymous said...

On the contrary dearest child. One should always embrace the wisdom and maturity that comes with years of experience. Perhaps once you shed the bonds of rash youthfulness, you will find the experience quite gratifying. Honestly, my altruistic nature knows no bounds.

June 7, 2010 6:28 AM
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Age does not bring wisdom. Cheese and wine are the only things that should ever mature. And this can only have been said by someone who has not yet leapt over the fence of 40. Thank you for sharing.

Anonymous said...

I feel bad for Kristi. It must be really embarrassing to offer a kit for free and then have no responses. Aside from the little red-headed girl, the other little ones aren't too bad.

Anonymous said...

Age does not bring wisdom. Cheese and wine are the only things that should ever mature. And this can only have been said by someone who has not yet leapt over the fence of 40. Thank you for sharing.

June 7, 2010 6:00 PM
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I concur, both wine and cheese do indeed, once properly aged, attain a taste that is appreciated so much more.

'Tis a pity one so young can not conceive of the irony.

Having not only "leapt that fence" of the ripe young age of 40, the following life-affirming milestone of 50 has been surpassed and "leapt" as well.

I must say however, that your "passionate" nature is formidable. Quite amusing and I do so enjoy a spirited debate.

Pity it's not that challenging. Perhaps your bon mot needs a bit of, dare I say, maturity?

Anonymous said...

^^^^^

It's rare to find someone with whom one can truly repartee. My ripostes have lost the edge they used to have. Perhaps I can resharpen my wit?

Anonymous said...

I feel bad for Kristi. It must be really embarrassing to offer a kit for free and then have no responses. Aside from the little red-headed girl, the other little ones aren't too bad.

June 7, 2010 6:06 PM
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I don't think anyone would have noticed if she hadn't bumped the thread with her pouting. She brought the embarrassment on herself.

Anonymous said...

It's rare to find someone with whom one can truly repartee. My ripostes have lost the edge they used to have. Perhaps I can resharpen my wit?

June 7, 2010 6:58 PM
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^^^^
Brava!! Well said, indeed! It would be a privelege and my pleasure.

Anonymous said...

Dodgy, dodgy, dodgy!
Me thinks dst is using a traffic 'boosting' mod! Yes, you can get mods to make your forum traffic appear higher than it is..
Check this out..
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/online.php?order=asc&sort=username&pp=30&page=35
Watch it for a while... Thats page 35 that is an awful lot of people just viewing the index page.

Anonymous said...

Where does that link go to? I was given a prompt to log in, which I didn't do, naturally.

Anonymous said...

It goes to one of the last whos online pages.

Anonymous said...

I said the same thing in the last blog post, but was ignored. It looks as if they are artificially inflating the traffic in order to sell the site for more money.

Anonymous said...

It's just search engine bots. My little dinky *family* website with no advertising got over 1000 unique visits this week, it's crazy now. Probably only 3 of those visitors were legit.

Anonymous said...

And it was said in the last blog post that it is spiders and search engine bots. If you don't know what that means, then do a search.

Plus they have all those links at the bottom of posts to "furl" etc. Even a machine hitting the site will up the forum numbers. Designers need to look into the "real" visits before they sign up to advertise. It's best to base it off of logged in guests.

Anonymous said...

SWA's Announced - Discuss. http://www.scrappersonline.com/gallery/scrappers-world-award/index502.html

Anonymous said...

^^^ looks good to me. Nothing really to discuss.

Anonymous said...

And it was said in the last blog post that it is spiders and search engine bots. If you don't know what that means, then do a search.

Plus they have all those links at the bottom of posts to "furl" etc. Even a machine hitting the site will up the forum numbers. Designers need to look into the "real" visits before they sign up to advertise. It's best to base it off of logged in guests.

June 8, 2010 11:29 AM
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Did you even look at the link?? That isn't bots. Bots don't sit on the index page for ages and do nothing. Bots are designed to crawl the site. Bots also don't inflate a forum by 1000 guests at a time. Maybe 30 or being super generous 100 on a really busy bot day.

If you look through the last whos online pages, you will see that very few of those are anywhere other than the index page. The ones that are elsewhere are probably bots, but 98% of the 'guests' are just sitting there on the index page.

Maybe you people should think before speaking out of your ass.

Anonymous said...

SWA's Announced - Discuss. http://www.scrappersonline.com/gallery/scrappers-world-award/index502.html

June 8, 2010 1:12 PM

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Pathetic that some people need to enter competitions to feel validated about their work. Despite what they may say, it's not just memories because who needs to be validated for that?

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what's going on with Jen Wilson Designs?

Anonymous said...

4:11, I'm a website developer. I'm not speaking out of my ass. If a company was going to inflate hits for sales purposes, it means absolutely nothing unless the person hitting the site is going to return and click the advertisements. An unregistered user is not likely to do that. If they truly were trying to scam someone, then they would also be inflating the registed users.

It's bots. It rarely records pages past the index. Watch the next time you hit. It will say that you are visiting the index even though you visited specific threads in the forum.

Anonymous said...

4:11, I'm a website developer. I'm not speaking out of my ass. If a company was going to inflate hits for sales purposes, it means absolutely nothing unless the person hitting the site is going to return and click the advertisements. An unregistered user is not likely to do that. If they truly were trying to scam someone, then they would also be inflating the registed users.

It's bots. It rarely records pages past the index. Watch the next time you hit. It will say that you are visiting the index even though you visited specific threads in the forum.

June 8, 2010 9:09 PM
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I call bull shit, if that were the case the first few pages would only show index pages as well, they show actual threads as well as yes some on the index.

On the last few pages, it shows guests sitting on the index and not moving anywhere else.

Plus 1000 bots?? That appeared only mysteriously after the new owners took over, that is a hell of a lot of bots.

I run a busy vbulletin forum and watched the bots and they DO go places other than the index. They DON'T just sit on the index and go nowhere else, that wouldn't be spidering now would it?? Bots on my forum are never more than 30 or so tops usually closer to 10 or so.

Anonymous said...

Pathetic that some people need to enter competitions to feel validated about their work. Despite what they may say, it's not just memories because who needs to be validated for that?

June 8, 2010 6:03 PM

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Or, maybe they have preserved their memories in a beautiful and inspiring way, and want to show off what they've accomplished. And maybe you are a bitter shrew who's doing a lot of assuming about other people's motives. And maybe you should know that I have no horse in this race, neither submitted nor nominated, but I still recognize crap when I read it.

Anonymous said...

Pathetic that some people need to enter competitions to feel validated about their work. Despite what they may say, it's not just memories because who needs to be validated for that?

June 8, 2010 6:03 PM


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So what? Let people do what they want to do. What's wrong with wanting validation? There's nothing wrong if they scrap for that reason entirely. I take photos professionally for that very reason. I like to feel like I'm good at my hobby and when someone pays me in cash or with a compliment, I feel validated.

Haven't you ever been to a state fair? Competition is common in hobbies and has been forever!

Anonymous said...

I didn't get the impression that Lee is going to sell DST. So why does it matter? And why should you care unless you are going to be the one buying it?

There's always a sucker! Good thing you aren't one. ;)

Anonymous said...

I didn't get the impression that Lee is going to sell DST. So why does it matter? And why should you care unless you are going to be the one buying it?

There's always a sucker! Good thing you aren't one. ;)

June 8, 2010 9:27 PM
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Maybe not yet, but that's what he does, he buys communities, builds them up and sells them for a profit.

It may only be a temporary measure to sell advertising, to build up the income, who knows, just interesting is all.

Anonymous said...

I really don't think that would be overlooked on the buyer's behalf. We aren't website owners and can see that it is somehow inflated and isn't accurate. That's why I agree with it being bots or something like that and not that he's running something to up the number of visitors. Those counters aren't accurate anyway.

It still says I'm visiting The Happy Place. I hadn't been on for 30 minutes.

Anonymous said...

Or, maybe they have preserved their memories in a beautiful and inspiring way, and want to show off what they've accomplished. And maybe you are a bitter shrew who's doing a lot of assuming about other people's motives. And maybe you should know that I have no horse in this race, neither submitted nor nominated, but I still recognize crap when I read it.

June 8, 2010 9:20 PM

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Entering a competition is definitely seeking validation. There's no assuming needing to be done, none at all.

If you don't have a horse in the race, why call me names? Calling people names is pretty damn lame.

Before you point out that I called people pathetic, I didn't. I called the motive pathetic.

Anonymous said...

So what? Let people do what they want to do.
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I'm not stopping them, I have no intention of stopping them and I never asked for them to stop. So your point in saying this is what exactly?

Anonymous said...

I'm not stopping them, I have no intention of stopping them and I never asked for them to stop. So your point in saying this is what exactly?

June 8, 2010 10:06 PM

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You are being rather judgmental is all. You are making it seem like it is a terrible thing for a person to want validation for their hobby. Clearly you want your opinion to be validated or you wouldn't have a come back to argue your point. I don't agree with your opinion that the desire for validation is pathetic. It's human.

Anonymous said...

Oh yes, I need validation, give it to me. Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes.

If saying pathetic is being 'rather judgmental', I would hate to think what you are being right now. Overly judgmental? Super judgmental? Uber judgmental?

Anonymous said...

. I don't agree with your opinion that the desire for validation is pathetic. It's human.

June 8, 2010 10:29 PM
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I forgot to address this. I never said seeking validation was pathetic - quite a leap you made there - I said entering a competition to seek validation was pathetic. Big difference.

Anonymous said...

How is she being judgemental?

You are the one calling people's methods pathetic. She is pointing out that you are judging their methods.

I agree that it is natural for people to want validation. Some want more than others. Some post in galleries and hope for comments, some enter contests, some only post on their blogs. And then some people don't need validation with their scrapping. They are happy to just be documenting the memories.

It's all good and we don't need to call any of it pathetic.

Anonymous said...

I said entering a competition to seek validation was pathetic. Big difference.

June 8, 2010 11:23 PM

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Why is that pathetic? It's meeting the need for validation. You are talking in circles. Are you a lawyer?

Anonymous said...

"It is better to live in peace than in bitterness and strife”

Confucius

Anonymous said...

Why is that pathetic? It's meeting the need for validation. You are talking in circles. Are you a lawyer?

June 8, 2010 11:29 PM
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how am I talking in circles? You can get validation from your family and friends. Why enter a competition to seek validation from strangers?

Anonymous said...

how am I talking in circles? You can get validation from your family and friends. Why enter a competition to seek validation from strangers?

June 8, 2010 11:37 PM
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Why not enter?

Being voted as one of the best layouts by complete strangers is actually very validating. My family and friend love what I do because they love me. Strangers provide a different validation because it is more objective.

Anonymous said...

I suppose you would tell your child to not enter a music contest because you love the way they play or sing and that is all that matters? Or what about an art contest?

Anonymous said...

LMAO!!!

"No, Jimmy. I know your teacher nominated your artwork to go to state. But you don't need validation from complete strangers. Sorry, we'll have to decline."

Anonymous said...

Ignorance is bliss.

Anonymous said...

"No, Jimmy. I know your teacher nominated your artwork to go to state. But you don't need validation from complete strangers. Sorry, we'll have to decline."

June 8, 2010 11:53 PM
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Actually, I would. Some people don't need competition to make themselves feel better about themselves.

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for your children. Far too sheltered and controlled.

Anonymous said...

I would only enter Jimmy's artwork if he wanted it to. It wouldn't be based on what I want. (which would be for him to win!!! :) )

I didn't enter any of the scrap competitions. I don't plan to. It has nothing to do with fear or validation. I just don't care.

Anonymous said...

Competition doesn't necessarily have anything to do with validation. It usually has to do with pushing oneself to be the best. Competition is inherent in just about every aspect of life from politics to marketing from sports to the entertainment industry, etc. Competition is about striving towards excellence and there is nothing wrong or pathetic with that.

Anonymous said...

1:44AM is right!!! :) Well said!

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for your children. Far too sheltered and controlled.

June 9, 2010 12:27 AM
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Hmm, you made that decision based on one comment? What a judgmental person you must be.

My children are far from sheltered, having traveled the world. They are happy people, without the need for pointless competition. Making them enter competitions would be controlling. My children don't need to compete and I don't need to compete with other moms either. So sorry that that you do.

I feel sorry for your children, that the need validation and competition to make them feel good. Don't you care enough?

Anonymous said...

Competition is about striving towards excellence and there is nothing wrong or pathetic with that.

June 9, 2010 1:44 AM

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No, it isn't.

Competition is all about wanting to prove yourself better than someone else. You can strive towards excellence without comparing yourself to others. It's called self confidence.

Anonymous said...

I don't buy into your stupid socialist agenda that competing is bad. I don't force my children to compete. If they are interested I encourage it. Losing is good for children. Winning is good for children. But it isn't about validation. It's real life.

And I'm certain that it isn't about validation for scrappers either. You are a sad and bitter person. I'm sorry you lost along the way and didn't have anyone to help you through your feelings. All you can see is one side to competing and that makes you unable to understand why anyone would want to compete. Open your mind.

Anonymous said...

You can strive towards excellence without comparing yourself to others.

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True. But competing makes it more FUN!

Anonymous said...

Competition is all about wanting to prove yourself better than someone else. You can strive towards excellence without comparing yourself to others. It's called self confidence.
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What's wrong with wanting to prove yourself better than someone else? Have you ever had a job interview? Didn't you have to prove yourself better than the other applicants and make yourself look good?

Yes, you can strive towards excellence without competing. But you can also choose to compete. And you can be self-confident in both cases. There's no fault in either way.

Anonymous said...

You are a sad and bitter person. I'm sorry you lost along the way and didn't have anyone to help you through your feelings. All you can see is one side to competing and that makes you unable to understand why anyone would want to compete. Open your mind.

June 9, 2010 2:42 AM
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What a judgmental person you are! I hope you have a happy life. I think you should open your mind and understand that competing is not the be all and end all to being good at something. Do try.

Anonymous said...

I NEVER said it was. Moron.

I thinking competing has it's place and is fun.

Anonymous said...

True. But competing makes it more FUN!

June 9, 2010 2:45 AM

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Are you sure?

Anonymous said...

What's wrong with wanting to prove yourself better than someone else? Have you ever had a job interview? Didn't you have to prove yourself better than the other applicants and make yourself look good?

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I had no clue what other applicants said or did or were qualified at. I was myself. Confident. I got every job I ever applied for. Can you say the same?

Anonymous said...

Have you ever watched figure skating, a tennis match, a diving competition? Yes, competing is fun!

Anonymous said...

I NEVER said it was. Moron.

I thinking competing has it's place and is fun.

June 9, 2010 2:57 AM

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There's no need to call me names. It does no good. It makes you look defensive.

Anonymous said...

I had no clue what other applicants said or did or were qualified at. I was myself. Confident. I got every job I ever applied for. Can you say the same?

June 9, 2010 2:59 AM
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I had no clue what the other scrappers were going to submit. I just made a layout that I loved and someone nominated me. I was myself. How's it different?

Anonymous said...

Have you ever watched figure skating, a tennis match, a diving competition? Yes, competing is fun!

June 9, 2010 3:00 AM

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No. It's been shown time and time again that most competitions are rigged, or at least questionable in the end result. How is that fun?

Anonymous said...

I had no clue what the other scrappers were going to submit. I just made a layout that I loved and someone nominated me. I was myself. How's it different?

June 9, 2010 3:01 AM
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Ah, but you didn't enter yourself, that's how it's different.

Anonymous said...

so it clearly isn't fun for you.

but it is fun for some people. and that doesn't make them lesser of a person. lacking self confidence or begging for validation.

is it at all possible that they are just having fun? but you can't see it because you don't think competing is fun?

Anonymous said...

Ah, but you didn't enter yourself, that's how it's different.

June 9, 2010 3:03 AM
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I didn't enter for my last job either. They called me. But I still had to compete with other applicants.

Anonymous said...

No. It's been shown time and time again that most competitions are rigged, or at least questionable in the end result. How is that fun?

June 9, 2010 3:02 AM
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Well, millions disagree with you. Not only the audience but also the people that are competing.

And who's shown that time and time again? If it's so terrible, then why do people continue on with it? Your opinion is very much in the minority. I'm sure you think that makes you enlightened somehow.

Anonymous said...

Shut the fuck up all of you. If you want to enter a competition, do so. If you don't, don't. Whose business is it other than your own if you want to enter or not. For fucks sake! Each to their own. None of you has the right to criticise anyone else for either entering or not entering a competition. Life must be pretty sad if that's all you have to argue about.

Anonymous said...

is it at all possible that they are just having fun? but you can't see it because you don't think competing is fun?

June 9, 2010 3:05 AM
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Thanks 3:05. I'm glad someone else sees it.

Anonymous said...

not entering a competition. Life must be pretty sad if that's all you have to argue about.

June 9, 2010 3:16 AM
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First, we'll talk about whatever we want to. You weren't hear earlier to provide us with a better topic. Wait, you didn't give us one now either. So I guess we'll continue on.

AND I never had a problem with the dimwit not entering the competition. She can do whatever she wants. She just shouldn't be saying that people enter competitions because they need validation and lack self confidence. It's about FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN.

Anonymous said...

Shut the fuck up all of you. If you want to enter a competition, do so. If you don't, don't. Whose business is it other than your own if you want to enter or not. For fucks sake! Each to their own. None of you has the right to criticise anyone else for either entering or not entering a competition. Life must be pretty sad if that's all you have to argue about.

June 9, 2010 3:16 AM
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I have the right to criticise whomever I want. If you can't deal with that, go and fuck yourself.

Anonymous said...

s it at all possible that they are just having fun? but you can't see it because you don't think competing is fun?

June 9, 2010 3:05 AM
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Thanks 3:05. I'm glad someone else sees it.

June 9, 2010 3:19 AM
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Oh, I see it alright, but it's a shame that none of you seem to see the other side.

Anonymous said...

It's about FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN.

June 9, 2010 3:23 AM

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Prove it! I've seen the end result of competitions where the loser isn't having so much fun. It's only ever fun for the winner.

Anonymous said...

I lost. I still had fun.

Anonymous said...

Well, millions disagree with you. Not only the audience but also the people that are competing.

And who's shown that time and time again? If it's so terrible, then why do people continue on with it? Your opinion is very much in the minority. I'm sure you think that makes you enlightened somehow.

June 9, 2010 3:12 AM
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And there are millions who don't agree.

I can see your point of view, but can you see mine?

I don't think I'm more enlightened. This is what happens when you don't feel the need to compete. You just accept.

Anonymous said...

I can see your point of view. I don't feel a NEED to compete. I didn't plan on entering the scrap contest either. I like to do it on occassion. I'm confident. I don't need validation. I find it fun.

I run too. I lose those all the time. But I still have fun.

Probably because I learned that it's not about winning or losing. It's about having FUN. I treat life that way too.

Anonymous said...

3:29:

while there are millions who don't like competition, you can't miss the fact that sports is always on TV and makes a lot of money. that proves something.

i see your point of view. but i think you should know that you aren't going to change the world. and that not everyone competes for validation or to prove they are better than someone else.

you don't appear to have accepted anything. especially other's desire to compete for fun. you make assumptions about their motives for competing without even knowing the person. i actually see you as competitive because you want to win this argument.

Anonymous said...

No. It's been shown time and time again that most competitions are rigged, or at least questionable in the end result. How is that fun?

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Really, have any facts to back this up or are you just pulling facts out of your ass?

Anonymous said...

I can see your point of view, but can you see mine?

I don't think I'm more enlightened. This is what happens when you don't feel the need to compete. You just accept.

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I'm going to assume by all your comments that you have never held a job, because after all, the job application process is in fact a competition, only the best candidate gets the job.

Anonymous said...

She just shouldn't be saying that people enter competitions because they need validation and lack self confidence.

True! Most people who lack self confidence would NOT enter a contest like that!

As for validation? eh..well it's pretty cool to get validation! Isn't that why the majority post in galleries? Don't we all like REAL comments? ;)

I haven't scrapped in..oh about 2yrs. now and I'm thinking about entering. Might be a good way to get back into it not to mention what a hoot it'd be if I DID win..I could use a couple bills!

Anonymous said...

Competition is all about wanting to prove yourself better than someone else. You can strive towards excellence without comparing yourself to others. It's called self confidence.
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You may be self confident but you are not very intelligent. Competition is the very basis of our economic system (the best products, made for the least expense and providing the maximum profit is what fuels innovation), our political system (fractured now it is true but it is competition of ideas that is going to be the basis for winning candidates and the advancement of our political system over time), our social system and the natural world. The very understanding of evolution is based on competition and the survival of the fittest.

If you don't want to compete in the scrapping contest or in life that is fine by me but that isn't how the world operates and you will find yourself being left behind.

Anonymous said...

No. It's been shown time and time again that most competitions are rigged, or at least questionable in the end result. How is that fun?

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Really, have any facts to back this up or are you just pulling facts out of your ass?

June 9, 2010 9:29 AM
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Of course not. She's a socialist trying to build her utopian society where no person will be hurt or feel unequal to their fellow man. But when they take that away, they also take away the joy and happiness that comes from the otherside of the experience. "I earned this!" "I did it!"

All I can say is that without the pain of losing, we can not experience the joy of winning! But some people have to shelter themselves and their children from such feelings. She said herself that loser doesn't appear to be having much fun. That's only true if the loser was in it because they were looking for validation. The competition is a game. Games are supposed to be fun. Her comments are lacking a certain perspective because of the wall she has built to protect herself. She feels the need to expand her wall to others but a healthy person won't accept it.

Anonymous said...

if you don't believe in competition, why care if someone sees your side of an argument, doesn't matter
no one is right, no one is wrong
you live in a gray world
there are winners and losers...and although I can see the harm of too much competition in any one's life. It swings both ways.
a balance of life is a good thing.
I've won and I've lost, and my kids have also, I hope to teach them to have a striving attitude, without being ugly when they win or lose.

Anonymous said...

Of course not. She's a socialist trying to build her utopian society where no person will be hurt or feel unequal to their fellow man. But when they take that away, they also take away the joy and happiness that comes from the otherside of the experience. "I earned this!" "I did it!"

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Bah, I'm a Canadian and somewhat socialist and I believe in competition too, please don't compare HER to us :)

Anonymous said...

yeah, it's probably more totalitarian. No matter what it's unhealthy. And I agree, very grey.

But I don't care if she competes or not really. It's more that I hate that she defines motive behind competing inaccurately.

Anonymous said...

Y'all do realize that arguing is a form of competing, right?

What a stupid place this has become. Anonymous people arguing about what people like to do for fun. *shakes head* *not letting the door hit my ass as I leave*

Anonymous said...

Thanks, for pointing out something that has been said a number of times already.

And again, do you have something better to discuss? Digiland is dead right now.

Anonymous said...

Do you know who are judging the Scrapper's Choice Awards at DST?

Anonymous said...

I'm sure you can ask at the forum. The information says "Representatives of DST"

Anonymous said...

Confession: I'm an awful person. I'm still holding out hope that they won't be able to restore Divine Digital and Royanna will go away for good.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Roy's selling at DSW - I don't think we're gonna get rid of her THAT easily! Besides, I don't believe her BS story about the server. The other stores that were affected were up within a couple of days.

Anonymous said...

It was on a different server than those other stores. The web hosts posted in response to her on their facebook page. It's not BS because someone else verified her story. But the lady is a disaster magnet.

Anonymous said...

Disaster magnet, LOL! Good one!

Anonymous said...

Ahhh.... such a great time in digi community.
People don't even have anything to smack about... LOL!

Anonymous said...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dani-Alencar-Designs/192586316443

Why would she delete her page with almost 800 people on it just to change her name? Odd.

Anonymous said...

What is with designers stealing stuff and putting it in their kits. This vendor: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=78710 says specifically ... May not be redistributed in any way.They cannot reselll or make new backgrounds and sell...

Look what I found today: http://scrapbird.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73_227&products_id=3192&zenid=e1c1bc864a79dfcc19c481918b0165a3

This kind of thing just pisses me off!!!! Reported!

Anonymous said...

What is with designers stealing stuff and putting it in their kits. This vendor: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?ViewProduct=78710 says specifically ... May not be redistributed in any way.They cannot reselll or make new backgrounds and sell...

Look what I found today: http://scrapbird.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73_227&products_id=3192&zenid=e1c1bc864a79dfcc19c481918b0165a3

This kind of thing just pisses me off!!!! Reported!

June 11, 2010 8:43 PM

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Before jumping to conclusions, maybe that Cali design is not the culprit. Maybe she bought them as CU from someone else who would be the one to accuse.

Anonymous said...

The product has already been removed. Good to know the store acted fast when notified

Anonymous said...

Its still up - I Can see it.

Anonymous said...

Umm... no, it's still there in the shop, as of now. Hasn't been removed.

Anonymous said...

Before jumping to conclusions, maybe that Cali design is not the culprit. Maybe she bought them as CU from someone else who would be the one to accuse.

June 12, 2010 12:59 AM

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Oh please, go look @ some of her other kits. Then go to Deviant Art. Straight copy and paste. No editing. Why pay for CU when you can steal it from DA?

Anonymous said...

Did you report it the designer at renderosity? The copyright holder is really the only person who can connect the store owners and designers who are using his/her stuff illegally. Plus, I'm thinking they would like to know.

Anonymous said...

Maybe they changed just the preview and put it back for sale, because the one I see now has nothing to do with the renderosity images. BUT one of the CT LO has the background with the window! LOL! Well done, Ms. Scrapbird!

Anonymous said...

I still see the same previews @ Scrapbird. And yes, I reported it to moonchild @ rederosity. Amazing the sense of entitlement of some people who think they're above the rules.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I recognized those backgrounds right away! I'm oblivious to this sort of stuff normally, but I think every one of those has been in the GSO lately.

Anonymous said...

And the CT is using stock photos to promote the kit. No doubt without permission or even crediting. Losers.

Anonymous said...

What's the bet the preview has been changed but the window bg is still in the download zip.

Anonymous said...

She feels the need to expand her wall to others but a healthy person won't accept it.

June 9, 2010 10:06 AM
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Actually, I don't but I love how you all seem to know me and my motives, yet judge me on what I perceive the motives of others are. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

I'm not a socialist, nor a totalitarian, nor a liberal, nor a democrat, nor sheltered, nor any of the other things that I've been told I am from posting here. Quite the mixed personality I have, isn't it? Should I call myself Sybil?

I see we've gone back to the boring topic of pirating. Wasn't it fun to talk about something else for a change?

Anonymous said...

I'm going to assume by all your comments that you have never held a job, because after all, the job application process is in fact a competition, only the best candidate gets the job.

June 9, 2010 9:30 AM

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You assume wrong.

Anonymous said...

Does it not bother you people that you could very well be making smartass comments to someone you consider a digi-friend or a fellow CT member or designer you CT for, etc? Oh wait, what am I saying, people who are as rude and obnoxious as some of you wouldn't have friends.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm betting you wouldn't either.

Anonymous said...

She's NOT at all competitive but non-stop argues prove she is right and a perfect well-rounded person! She hasn't been able to argue against that one. You are competitive!

Anonymous said...

This is a blog about smacking scrapbooking. What else is there to discuss about scrapbooking? Besides piracy, who is a thief, who has cheated people outta money, copyright infringement what else is there?

Pray tell me, whatever else is it you would like to discuss?

We discussed the SWA's. Some think it's a healthy competition, and others think it's a self serving form of validation. There were attacks made on both sides.

I don't understand how such a simple conversation can provoke such animosity towards one another.

There is an art to debate. It does not have to dissolve into calling each other names. I find that type of debate boorish and insolent.

It is much more fun to try and debate issues than to resort to childish name calling.

I love to parry with words, I find it invigorating and one should be able to do so without crushing another's spirit. Opinions are like brains. Most of us have one. It's up to you how you employ them.

Anonymous said...

Great, the snob is back.

If you want an intellectual conversation, you should not try to find it in a dark alley.

Anonymous said...

^
lolz

Anonymous said...

I don't understand how such a simple conversation can provoke such animosity towards one another.


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It's this little thing called "anonymous". But that's what makes it fun. People shouldn't take this stuff so seriously. It's just random people talking.

Anonymous said...

Even a dark alley has its promise. Amid the trash and the homeless therein lies a rainbow reflection in a puddle, a small flower struggling to grow thru the cracks in the asphalt.

Anonymous said...

^
I think I just threw-up a little from the smell of cheese.

Anonymous said...

^^^^
ROFL

Might I suggest some Listerine to assist in the after taste. However, I find I prefer the flavor of Scope.

Anonymous said...

Confession: I'm an awful person. I'm still holding out hope that they won't be able to restore Divine Digital and Royanna will go away for good.
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So now Royanna is claiming she's been working 20 hour days to get the site back up,verge of divorce, house about to be foreclosed upon and a bunch of other bs.

Wasn't she just living out of her car last summer?

Every time you turn around she a a bunch of new products loaded at DSW.

I can't believe that it is taking over 1 month to get it back up and running when it takes about 1 hour to install vbulletin and photopost.

I smell a big fat rat....

Anonymous said...

OMGosh! You have tracked her THAT much? Get a life!!!!

Anonymous said...

Royanna's bat crap crazy.

Anonymous said...

so are people that read blogs and facebook pages of people that they hate.

Anonymous said...

It always takes a divine miracle for that site accomplish anything when it chokes.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm betting you wouldn't either.

June 13, 2010 9:57 AM
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Wow, you got that right. Is there anything you don't know?

Anonymous said...

It is much more fun to try and debate issues than to resort to childish name calling.

I love to parry with words, I find it invigorating and one should be able to do so without crushing another's spirit. Opinions are like brains. Most of us have one. It's up to you how you employ them.

June 13, 2010 11:27 AM
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i'm truly amazed by you. i don't think i could have made it another day without your wisdom.

Anonymous said...

^^^^

Always happy to oblige. ;)

Anonymous said...

So Elemental Scraps is going exclusive. I've always thought of them as one of those "stepping stone" stores to practice your trade before you try out for the big league. Are they trying to be more like Scrap Orchard/SBG or is there another reason to this decision? Are they losing their designers because of this? Anyone care to shed some light?

Anonymous said...

OMGosh! You have tracked her THAT much? Get a life!!!!

June 13, 2010 12:42 PM
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This from someone who reads and posts here.

Are you aware of the irony?

Anonymous said...

So Elemental Scraps is going exclusive. I've always thought of them as one of those "stepping stone" stores to practice your trade before you try out for the big league. Are they trying to be more like Scrap Orchard/SBG or is there another reason to this decision? Are they losing their designers because of this? Anyone care to shed some light?

June 14, 2010 1:21 AM

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I wasn't aware that either SBG or Scrap Orchard were big league, but what do I know?

As far as I'm concerned, as long as you are making steady sales and good money, it doesn't matter where you sell.

I'm sure there are stores out there that some here would consider sub par, but the designers there have their customers and probably make good money.

I'm not either for or against any of the stores mentioned, but this idea of top and bottom tier amuses me no end.

Anonymous said...

She's NOT at all competitive but non-stop argues prove she is right and a perfect well-rounded person! She hasn't been able to argue against that one. You are competitive!

June 13, 2010 11:15 AM

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I'm not trying to prove I'm right at all. I'm just keeping myself amused. I love to watch the fishies take the bait.

Anonymous said...

I wasn't aware that either SBG or Scrap Orchard were big league, but what do I know?

As far as I'm concerned, as long as you are making steady sales and good money, it doesn't matter where you sell.

I'm sure there are stores out there that some here would consider sub par, but the designers there have their customers and probably make good money.

I'm not either for or against any of the stores mentioned, but this idea of top and bottom tier amuses me no end.


Let me clarify. When I go to a store and see lots of registered customers and browsers and the designers are well known, then I consider that a "top" store. It could amuse you, but there IS a difference between one store and another. And you DO get more sales at a store that has better designers. That's just the way marketing works. Elemental Scraps does not have the traffic that SO or SBG has and thus I think it's fairly safe to say that the sales are not as good. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

Incidentally, which stores DO you consider top notch because apparently it's not SO or SBG. And I don't mean stores you prefer to shop at. That's a whole different discussion. I'm talking about stores that have a high customer base that are logged in making purchases and galleries that are filled with layouts other than from CT members.

Anonymous said...

And just for the record, I have nothing against ES. I like their stuff and I'm surprised it doesn't get more traffic. Maybe it's all the bad blood from previous scandals. Either way, I'm just wondering why the switch to exclusivity. Obviously, the sales/participation WERE NOT what the owner wanted to see.

Anonymous said...

Top notch for me does mean the stores I shop at. Why would I shop somewhere just because it's trendy or someone else considers it to be top tier? I have no idea how many of the customers who logged in are actually purchasing. I've logged into stores and never once made a purchase, so it's not an accurate figure. Gallery wise, it seems that almost all of them are filled with CT layouts, unless they've put up restrictions.

Most of the so called top tier stores just merge together. They all seem the same to me.

Anonymous said...

Interesting...so what you are saying is that it doesn't matter about the store that a designer is in as to how many sales they make? Or am I reading too much into what you are telling me? What stores do you primarily shop at? It's true that the number of customers logged in does not always reflect the number of sales. It could be a large number of CT members for that particular store. Of course, the same could be true for ES. There's really no way of knowing unless a couple of designers come in and enlighten us.

Anonymous said...

I think ES is making a good move. They are preventing designers that don't have a large customer base from spreading themselves too thin. That's good for ES's bottom line. It's better for a designer to be exclusive because in a sense they are competing with themselves when they spread out over a large number of stores.

Designers will leave over this but I hope that soon this will push them up into one of the top stores.

I like ES since Angie took over. She's fun and provides awesome customer service! I think she has made some huge strides to really prove that ES has a new reputation. So maybe we can put that behind us now and allow them to shed that bad rep?

PS: I'm not associated with ES. I am only a customer. Not CT or staff or anything.

Anonymous said...

Without mentioning names, what are some "you won't believe it" things people, customers or designers, have done in the digi community?

Anonymous said...

Read this comments on this blog from day one. You'll get all the answers you need. I don't think it all needs to be rehashed.

Anonymous said...

Without mentioning names, what are some "you won't believe it" things people, customers or designers, have done in the digi community?

Oh, so many. I've had customers email me and ask me to replace lost files, I send them a coupon, they buy something other than what they lost.

Anonymous said...

Read this comments on this blog from day one. You'll get all the answers you need. I don't think it all needs to be rehashed.

What? Is there a really important convo going on here so I'm not allowed to bring up anything?

Who died and left you in charge of what I'm allowed to ask?

Anonymous said...

Sheesh, it was just a suggestion. Sorry you are having such a bad day.

Anonymous said...

Read this comments on this blog from day one. You'll get all the answers you need. I don't think it all needs to be rehashed.

Anonymous blog bully!

Anonymous said...

My gosh! I didn't realize that I had that much power here. Wow! You can discuss whatever you want. It was just a suggestion. There's some great stuff in the past blog posts.

Anonymous said...

^^
They are sheeples who haven't realized that comments can be ignored. We talk about whatever we want.

Anonymous said...

Is ES going exclusive as in "designers can't be in other stores" or as in "product has to be exclusive to ES but the designer can sell other items at other stores"??

Anonymous said...

I think what ES is doing is awful. Exclusive 'with a twist' means that designers who reach certain sales targets can be open at other stores. But no one know who is reaching what sales targets other than the owners ... so it's just a way for the owner to play favorites...she can let people she likes stay and tell other people they aren't meeting their targets and make them leave.

As a customer I really resent stores taking away my ability to comparison shop and get better pricing. If I want to buy something in real life, I go to different stores and I shop around. It's part of being a competitive market - if you want to protect yourself as a company you make yourselves a better company. This kind of forced monopoly could well be illegal - but no lawyers will take on a case because no one takes this industry seriously ... and honestly, part of why they don't is because of this kind of move.

Stores need to get a grip - do some proactive work on their customer service, community feel, events - that make people WANT to shop with them.

I have a growing list of desingers I like, and have bought from before, and will not buy from now because they are exclusive at a store I don't want to support. Stores who think I will shop with them after they forced a designer to be exclusive are wrong wrong wrong. No designer is that important to me that I will spend my hard earned dollars where I don't want to ... I'll go find another designer from my group who sells somewhere I want to support.

Anonymous said...

I think you need to get a grip. Designers aren't "forced" to be exclusive to one store only. They read and sign the agreement so they are well aware of the terms. Not all stores are so regimented. There are plenty of stores who don't care if the same product is at one or twenty stores. There are also stores that require products to be exclusive to that store but leave the designer free to have different products at other stores.

Anonymous said...

OK I will revise that - designers aren't forced to go exclusive you are right.

What I'm trying to say is that stores think they can edge out the competition by not allowing their designers to be elsewhere ... which takes away my ability to comparison shop, shop at one stores events, etc. This is all stuff that happens in offline stores all the time. As a consumer, I like it - it makes stores stay reasonable with their prices and events, because thy know I have a choice to go elsewhere.

There is a reason why monopoly business models are illegal - they aren't fair to the consumer. And though I'm not suggesting digi stores are going for monopoly, I'm saying they are doing a very similar thing - taking away my choice as a customer to protect their own profit.

Anonymous said...

I think you'll find that when a designer has the same items at multiple stores, when one is having a sale 99% of the time the designer reduces the price of that item in all her stores. At least that's what I've generally come across.

Ultimately I think it's up the the designers how they choose to operate. If they didn't want to be in a store that only allows them to sell in that one store they wouldn't sign up in the first place.

Anonymous said...

But no one know who is reaching what sales targets other than the owners ... so it's just a way for the owner to play favorites...she can let people she likes stay and tell other people they aren't meeting their targets and make them leave.
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Who else should know who is reaching sales targets? I really do think that only owners should know this. And it's not a matter of playing favorites. ES is letting the designers who have a customer base and meet a minimum in sales be at more than one store. It's not worth it for a store to hold on to a designer that can't reach a sales target and on top of that they are spread out over 4 stores along with their customer base.


And I disagree about that what stores are doing is illegal. I sell custom made jewelry for an boutique her in town. They made me sign a contract that I would not sell anywhere else locally. It wasn't illegal for them to do that. I could have told them "no". But I knew I would make money in that store. More than any other store in town.

And designers shouldn't be competing with themselves. They should always mark down products the same in every store. It's not a matter of "comparision" shopping. There's enough comparision shopping to do among all the different designers out there!

Anonymous said...

I also want to add that a designer should be let go if they aren't making minimum sales. This is business, not charity work. And that isn't about playing favorites. We don't know if ES as put that minimum in place those. We do know that they are putting minimum in place before a designer can sell in other stores.

It's smart.

Anonymous said...

I also want to add that a designer should be let go if they aren't making minimum sales. This is business, not charity work. And that isn't about playing favorites. We don't know if ES as put that minimum in place those. We do know that they are putting minimum in place before a designer can sell in other stores.

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The only good thing I can see about this is that it would get rid of a lot of designers who aren't making any money and are just taking up space along with the stores who open and close 6 months to a year later.

Anonymous said...

There is a reason why monopoly business models are illegal - they aren't fair to the consumer. And though I'm not suggesting digi stores are going for monopoly, I'm saying they are doing a very similar thing - taking away my choice as a customer to protect their own profit.


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So when you go into an art gallery, do you storm out when you discover that that painting isn't available at 3 other galleries as well?

Do you refuse to buy books because each title is only available from ONE publisher?

Do you refuse to eat at Arby's because they don't serve McDonald's french fries?

Your argument is as ridiculous as my examples of it.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a fan of stores trying to strong arm me into shopping with them. And yes, if I find something I really want that has a model only available at Walmart, I will find a different model I can get elsewhere because I will not support Walmart under any circumstances (mostly because of their awful customer service).

Stores need to hone their customer service skills FIRST. Quality product is important, but in a market over-saturated with quality product, your customer service is your number one best too.

Anonymous said...

McDonalds sells fries that they manufacture for themselves. They aren't reselling someone else's product. The refined their recipe to make them stand out on a corner with 4 other fast food joints ... they didn't go to McCain and demand that they don't sell potatoes to anyone else.

Anonymous said...

So when you go into an art gallery, do you storm out when you discover that that painting isn't available at 3 other galleries as well?

Do you refuse to buy books because each title is only available from ONE publisher?

Do you refuse to eat at Arby's because they don't serve McDonald's french fries?

Your argument is as ridiculous as my examples of it.


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Yes, I agree, your examples are absolutely ridiculous. Designers don't need to have a publisher. They create their products all by themselves. Of course if they needed to have someone actually print their work, that would be different, and would be more like needing a "publisher" who can certainly stipulate that they have exclusive rights to print and publish the work.

Comparing digital scrapbook products to work in an art-gallery is also absolutely ridiculous. Physical art-work is utterly and completely different from digital products, which can be sold an infinite number of times.

And the McDonald's & Arby's comparison is so utterly beyond ridiculous that I don't think it even merits explaining. (But you seem to need it: You're right, one manufacturer does not generally sell at another manufacturer's store.) Duh... Not even close to the same thing.

Me-thinks you need a course in logic.

I think it's a poor move as well; seems kind of desperate to me. Doesn't really matter either way to me though, since I've never shopped there. *shrug*

Anonymous said...

lol at refusing to shop at a store because their designers are exclusive. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, I guess.

Anonymous said...

a designer isn't going to undercut themselves at their other store, are they? so I don't get how them being at 2 or 4 or whatever is going to enable someone to price compare and bargain hunt

Anonymous said...

You can easily bargain hunt because some stores offer free with purchase items, others have loyalty points, and not every designer matches sales across the board.

I didn't say that I don't shop at stores because they are exclusive - I said I have a long list of stores I won't shop at. If a designer goes exclusive at one of those stores, I still won't buy from there.

I do shop at exclusive only stores. I can also see the difference between stores that start off exclusive, and stores that are making these seemingly desperate switches to exclusivity, which is actually a pretty nasty thing to do to designers who have made it their home.

Exclusivity is based on the premise that 'if people really want this, and they can't get it anywhere else, they will shop here.'

But the market is too saturated for that kind of business model. I can get equally good stuff from a different designer elsewhere.

If I don't like your customer service or you've proven to be a jerk in some other way, I'm not buying from you no matter WHO you bring in exclusively. No one is that good.

I'll repeat - customer service has to be the first thing these stores try to fix. If their sales are dropping, they need to take a good hard look at that before they look at anything else.

I have a few designers I shop with at ES, and I'm watching to see what they do with this move. ES is going on my 'do not shop' store because of this ridiculous move so I'll be sad if some of the designers I like to frequent there decide to close their other stores.

I'll say it again because someone will misunderstand, I'm sure - I think that stores that open as exclusive stores are on a different playing field than these ones making a desperate switch.

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