Here is some new space for you to discuss DSA, DST, MSA or anything else you want to debate about.
FYI - I do see your emails, but as a general rule I will not respond to them. Call me paranoid or whatever, but y'all can be ruthless. Feel free to send me alerts as I check my email more often than the blog, I will see them. So anyway, thanks for the reminder, I have been meaning to get a new post up just for you.
For the person looking for the dirt on Amanda, I don't have time to rehash 3+weeks worth of drama for you, feel free to read the blog archives, it unfolded here. You have the link, spend your time looking for the information you are requesting.
If you are in the US, enjoy the long weekend, hopefully nice weather has arrived in your part of the world.
1,394 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 801 – 1000 of 1394 Newer› Newest»It's amazing how many seemingly grown women equate honesty or directness with being unkind.
All the fronting and fakery is what really does the harm.
Family troubles from what I heard. It amazes me that it's always family troubles from the so-so average designer.
May 31, 2009 6:04 PM
Is there some kind of directive in place that only allows good or bad designers the privilege of having personal issues which need to be addressed? Just kind of an odd statement, as if being a so-so designer make you immune to family problems.
And really, why is it anyone's business why a designer is not active or has taken time off? Where else in the world, does a company contact all their customers to let them know that one of their employees decided to take some time off? "Hello Mr. Jones, we are calling all of our customers to let them know that Betty our receptionist is going through a nasty divorce and needed some time off, so if you call ABC Company she will not be answering the phone for a while..." Seriously, it amazes me what some people feel they are entitled to know because they happened to have purchased something from a designer or store. I mean, I certainly expect Best Buy to inform me every employee vacation, leave of absence, sick day because I purchased a digital camera from them, don't you?
Ever stop to think about what you're griping about before clicking the Submit button, like, put it in a "real world" situation and hopefully you'll realize how ridiculous you are being.
Seriously, it amazes me what some people feel they are entitled to know because they happened to have purchased something from a designer or store. I mean, I certainly expect Best Buy to inform me every employee vacation, leave of absence, sick day because I purchased a digital camera from them, don't you?
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Not the OP but it's the fault of the designers. They are the ones putting themselves out there, wanting to get to know you. This is why people feel entitled to know about what's going on with a designer.
The people at Best Buy don't give a rats ass about you, don't expect you to visit their blog, etc. It's a false analogy in so many ways.
Family troubles from what I heard. It amazes me that it's always family troubles from the so-so average designer.
May 31, 2009 6:04 PM
Is there some kind of directive in place that only allows good or bad designers the privilege of having personal issues which need to be addressed? Just kind of an odd statement, as if being a so-so designer make you immune to family problems.
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That's not what I said. It amazes me how much people read between the lines. The designers who are good, generally manage to keep making product, DESPITE family problems. It's a business and they treat it as such. The average or so-so designer treats the whole thing as a hobby and easily distracted from their so called business.
I put it into a real world situation and this is my answer.
And really, why is it anyone's business why a designer is not active or has taken time off? Where else in the world, does a company contact all their customers to let them know that one of their employees decided to take some time off?
Did I say "Well fuck Scrapartist, they didn't contact me saying why Cori Gammon hasn't been active, how unprofessional of them!"? Did I say I was entitled to knowing? I asked if anyone knew what had happened, which is a totally different thing. The same way I might, were I used to having Betty the receptionist answer the phone every time I called ABC Company, ask other people who called ABC Company if they knew why - as a matter of curiosity, not feeling of entitlement. I would not demand said info from ABC Company, same as I haven't demanded it from Scrapartist.
The designers who are good, generally manage to keep making product, DESPITE family problems. It's a business and they treat it as such. The average or so-so designer treats the whole thing as a hobby and easily distracted from their so called business.
I put it into a real world situation and this is my answer.
May 31, 2009 7:19 PM
totally spot.on.
That Best Buy analogy was completely off. Digital scrap supply stores are in no way similar to chain stores.
I think a better analogy than Best Buy would be if I went into my locally owned and operated pharmacy, where I have gotten to know the pharmacist and he has gotten to know me, noticed I hadn't seen him in a few visits, and asked if anything was wrong. I don't think that would be out of the ordinary at all.
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Family troubles from what I heard. It amazes me that it's always family troubles from the so-so average designer.
May 31, 2009 6:04 PM
Is there some kind of directive in place that only allows good or bad designers the privilege of having personal issues which need to be addressed? Just kind of an odd statement, as if being a so-so designer make you immune to family problems.
And really, why is it anyone's business why a designer is not active or has taken time off? Where else in the world, does a company contact all their customers to let them know that one of their employees decided to take some time off? "Hello Mr. Jones, we are calling all of our customers to let them know that Betty our receptionist is going through a nasty divorce and needed some time off, so if you call ABC Company she will not be answering the phone for a while..." Seriously, it amazes me what some people feel they are entitled to know because they happened to have purchased something from a designer or store. I mean, I certainly expect Best Buy to inform me every employee vacation, leave of absence, sick day because I purchased a digital camera from them, don't you?
Ever stop to think about what you're griping about before clicking the Submit button, like, put it in a "real world" situation and hopefully you'll realize how ridiculous you are being.
May 31, 2009 6:49 PM
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I like you for your statement, but most of all because you are one of the few people who spell ridiculous correctly. I see it spelled with "red" at the beginning so often.
WV nerse
I want to be a nerse when I grow up, but I don't know how to spell it-- how rediculous.
whatever happened to Cori Gammon? Nothing new in her store for months and months now.
May 31, 2009 4:01 PM
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Family troubles from what I heard. It amazes me that it's always family troubles from the so-so average designer.
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She lost her BABY and then right after that she lost her Mother. So yes, family troubles!!!! Why do you always have to be so damn cruel about EVERYTHING!!!!!
Geez people go look at Ruby's postings at DST. Look in her profile for her comments. Surely you can't keep saying she's just "direct". She's downright rude. Maybe that's okay with all you rude blog readers/Ruby CT
I'm not on any of Ruby's CTs, don't really know much about her really til all the hub bub of the Sybil designer amanda/whoever escapade. but on the occasions I have needed something that Ruby had knowledge of, she has offered it clear and made it understandable to me.
sometimes when you are rude to others it makes you see rude and mean automatically, perhaps a bit of kindness may help you...it couldn't hurt! you probably will see sarcasm in the last paragraph, because I placed it there rather clearly.
Amy said...
heehee, thanks for the vote, I totally appreciate it! LOL, but I have to agree... you may want to wait and see what I come up with. (yep, I still read here too!) Anyways, this may be the week I jump the shark and end up with the stinkiest kit ever. But I love you for saying you will vote for me, whoever you are!
May 30, 2009 6:54 PM
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LOL. Oh Jeeze Amy I had more respect for you before you came over here begging for votes ;)
Do you sign your name to all your smack posts too? or is it just when it suits you? I bet your shop owner loves that you hang around a smack blog huh. It must be great for their reputation.
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LOL. Oh Jeeze Amy I had more respect for you before you came over here begging for votes ;)
Do you sign your name to all your smack posts too? or is it just when it suits you? I bet your shop owner loves that you hang around a smack blog huh. It must be great for their reputation.
June 1, 2009 3:06 AM
Oh my word. EVERYONE reads this blog, even hallowed store owners. Get your panties out of a twist. At no point did she beg for votes. I like it when people actually post non-anonymously!
WV: nosiveri The people who ready this blog are nosi. Veri nosi. and they can't spell either.
I don't think I was begging for votes... LOL, I was answering this post, directly:
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So people have to vote in the last round of SYTYCD. Who are you voting for? I'm voting for Amy Sumerall.
May 30, 2009 4:02 PM
it might be a good idea to wait till the kits are done BEFORE you decide, don't you think?
May 30, 2009 4:52 PM
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Basically telling whoever the nice person is that they my want to hold off on voting for me till they see my kit!
And I do like reading here and do use my real name. I don't *think* it's anything to be ashamed of! I used to read perezhilton.com all the time, but the gossip here is way more interesting to me now then what Lindsey Lohan is up to!
The designers who are good, generally manage to keep making product, DESPITE family problems. It's a business and they treat it as such. The average or so-so designer treats the whole thing as a hobby and easily distracted from their so called business.
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So I guess if my DH drops dead of a heart attack or my DS or DD get killed in a car accident, or my house goes up in flames, or i'm busy trying to sell my parents house because they have now passed on, or I'm recovering from a major surgery that almost killed me, or I just found out I have terminal cancer, those designers must go on about their BUSINESS of desiging no matter happens in their life just to make you happy. What a poor pathetic soul you are. Hope nothing every happens to keep you from posting on this smack blog like a broken arm.
Lots of people read here. It doesn't mean they need to make it known. This place attracts the scum of the digiscrap world. Not everyone who reads/posts here is a complete asshole but there are some big ones. I have a good idea who some of them are, especially when someone even slightly disses the DSP ladies or anyone from the sunshine clan.
--Ignoramus alert--
What's the sunshine clan?
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3093
WTH? This thread annoys me! Does she really think that a designer is using a different Etsy name or is she just being catty and bringing it up like that so she can seem so innocent? If you think a designer is stealing, which you obviously do, then just come out a say it already!
Plus, I can't even find the kit she "swears" uses those elements.
Dumb!
Family troubles from what I heard. It amazes me that it's always family troubles from the so-so average designer.
May 31, 2009 6:04 PM
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This is such a cruel statement. God forbid any family troubles hit you, where you cannot produce whatever it is that you do at your job. And SAHM is also a job.
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3093
WTH? This thread annoys me! Does she really think that a designer is using a different Etsy name or is she just being catty and bringing it up like that so she can seem so innocent? If you think a designer is stealing, which you obviously do, then just come out a say it already!
Plus, I can't even find the kit she "swears" uses those elements.
Dumb!
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I think she's got it confused with a kit from the Funky Playground contest.
http://www.funkyplaygrounddesigns.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=14531
although it still doesn't look the same, just similiar.
Family troubles from what I heard. It amazes me that it's always family troubles from the so-so average designer.
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I get sick of hearing the same excuses too. If you need to take a break, then take it but don't just dissapear! As a customer it drives me crazy when I cannot find a designer I like or that I bought from previously. I get sick of the hunting/chasing down/store jumping (although I do understand the need to find the right store and sometimes that can't be helped)
Now, as a designer I feel my business is no different then a brick and mortar store. If I can't be there then someone else must. There is nothing more unprofessional to me than just disappearing off the face of the earth without a word. I'm not bragging but I have to say that my customer service is priority and because of it I am successful. When I am away for the day because my son is sick or my daughter has a recital or I just need a mental health day then someone else is. You wouldn't open a store in town and be the only worker would you? It costs little to nothing anyway to get some help.
Finally, I think it is hard not to see this business as a hobby too, which there has been so much debate about constantly. Scrapping/crafts IS a very personable thing, I'm not arguing that, but I think there's a line you must draw. Just because you may have breast cancer doesn't mean you get to disappear without a word, not pay your design team and/or disregard your customers (who may need help with a purchase or whatever). It just doesn't work like that. But because so many have gotten away with it, it has become the norm and acceptable in our industry. It's what's destroying this industry and makes us look very unprofessional.. and it's not fair to those of us that have worked so hard to make this looked at as a professional business. It's the Amanda Dykan, Ashly Olsen, Keely Simpson type that ruin it for all of us and make us work that much harder. I just wish designers would get their act together!
Though I do not disagree with you. It IS unprofessional to not pay your designers or help your customers with their downloads. This is definitely NOT the case here. She did not jump ship on her store, she is probably paying her fees at SA, and we do not know that she does not respond to her customers. What irks me is the "so so designer" comment, as if there is a distinction between "good" and "so so" designers when it comes to personal issues. It is unfair for you and the other poster to group everyone together like that.
If I can't be there then someone else must.soo, the artist part of this can be done by someone else??? (not talking store owners here who generally are not designers and we're not discussing not paying designers...we're discussing designers who go awol)
If the ideas, the color combinations, the selection of elements, packaging, promoting, and everything else that goes into creating a product can be done by someone else then why don't we set up a factory to output digiscrapping stuff and you all can quit bitching.
Artistic creations, whether a masterpiece painting or a lowly digiscrapping kit, cannot be put on a schedule. Sabbaticals are a necessary evil of the creative process. The mind gets tired, needs rejuvenating, needs a vacation to refuel, or even, god forbid, to stop and tend to RL issues.
Go shop from the thousands of other designers who are still putting out stuff--not like there's a shortage.
^^^
someone that finally makes sense
So I guess if my DH drops dead of a heart attack or my DS or DD get killed in a car accident, or my house goes up in flames, or i'm busy trying to sell my parents house because they have now passed on, or I'm recovering from a major surgery that almost killed me, or I just found out I have terminal cancer, those designers must go on about their BUSINESS of desiging no matter happens in their life just to make you happy. What a poor pathetic soul you are. Hope nothing every happens to keep you from posting on this smack blog like a broken arm.
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Hey Miss Drama Queen, did you miss the part where I said generally? Or were you too busy being overly dramatic, sheesh. Half the problems occur because people simply DO NOT READ!!
Family troubles from what I heard. It amazes me that it's always family troubles from the so-so average designer.
May 31, 2009 6:04 PM
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This is such a cruel statement. God forbid any family troubles hit you, where you cannot produce whatever it is that you do at your job. And SAHM is also a job.
June 1, 2009 11:57 AM
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How is this cruel? She is a so so designer. That's my opinion. We are no longer in Thumper land. Sheesh. It would be cruel if I were crapping the family problem, which I wasn't, it would be cruel if I were saying mean things about her, which I wasn't. Saying so so is not mean or cruel by any stretch.
What irks me is the "so so designer" comment, as if there is a distinction between "good" and "so so" designers when it comes to personal issues. It is unfair for you and the other poster to group everyone together like that.
June 1, 2009 2:10 PM
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What irks me is people who don't read. I already explained what I meant by my original comment and yet, here we are, in the same place. Please explain to me how it is unfair? I totally understand unexpected family emergencies and absences for a short period of time, but an absence of four or five months? That is unprofessional, sugar coat it however you like, it's not going to change.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
^^^
someone that finally makes sense
June 1, 2009 4:30 PM
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No, just someone who agrees with you. The OP of the post you agree with was talking about sabbaticals, not unexplained absences. So, not really sure how this makes sense to the original discussion. Sabbaticals are okay with me, it's disappearing into the ether that irks me.
I heard Ruby Rynne drinks the blood of children and was raised by centaurs.
DSA has hit a new low.
do not click that link!
why are you trying to prevent people from learning the truth?
ok, well hover over it and see where it goes and click at your own peril....it may not be a virus, but it's definitely annoying!
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I wouldn't click on that link for all the Basic Grey paper in China!!!
If I can't be there then someone else must.soo, the artist part of this can be done by someone else??? (not talking store owners here who generally are not designers and we're not discussing not paying designers...we're discussing designers who go awol)
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My apologies. I was not the original poster with the "so-so" comment but I did post 1:12pm. I think I gave the wrong impression by grouping designers together in my post. I was more commenting on the Bren type absences but then went on to talk about other bad business practices I've been hearing about that irk me, not realizing I went off topic. I should have been more clear. Sorry. I certainly didn't mean Cori either. I made no statment about her nor do I think any cruel statements should be made about her personal situation Her situation is much different and I do understand emergencies. Finally, when I say "if I can't be there someone else must".. I meant that for store owners/designers running their own shop. Obviously no one can step in and design for me/them. That would be pretty ridiculous now wouldn't it.
AGAIN, sorry for not being clearer but that's what my post was about, whether or not you were talking it.
Oh girl... no worries! Basically 3:35 just has a stick up her crotch... LOL! God forbid you went off *her* topic. Thank you for coming back to explain your post! There still are some awesome designers out there that feel the same way!
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WV: wasshup, as in 3:35 is washed up!
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Geez, what is that? I don't even know how to respond to your post.
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10:55, I am not the OP you are responding to, but thank you for your post.
Geez, what is that? I don't even know how to respond to your post.
10:55, I am not the OP you are responding to, but thank you for your post.
June 2, 2009 2:30 AM
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I think 10:55pm was just responding to 3:35pm who seems to have gone on the real tangent over the switching of topics somewhat. But 10:55 did clarify her earlier post..so whatever.
10:55 - Thanks for clarifying. As a designer I can say that I DO agree with you. This business has taken quite the ugly turn with some designers disappearing, stealing, cheating and ignoring customers. Personally I wish more designers would see this business as less personal and more professional, but I also understand that this business is unique in that it can be very personal too. There needs to be a line. Does anyone else agree?
ha ha ha ha
I was rick-rolled!!
Lisa Whitney has quit designing.... again.
I didn't know who Lisa Whitney was so I googled. Her blog says that she will upload her products to the blog for everyone to download for free. Of course I'll have to look at her stuff,lol!
Anonymous said...Lisa Whitney has quit designing.... again.
June 2, 2009 2:56 PM
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Are you kidding me? Let's see how long before she decides to come back this time! I swear they do it so they can get customers to feel bad for them, enough to do well when they run their "final" sale! Then when they return they make a grand re-entry hoping for lots of attention on themselves! Come on, haven't you guys caught onto this marketing scheme yet?! It wouldn't be a first, or a last.
word veri: portlfore
HA! As in a portal for designers coming and going! (Webster defines portal as "a grand and imposing entrance"!
I like her stuff... but when she retired the first time and came back, I had moved on to other designers. Plus it wasn't the same Scrap Artist....
Lisa Whitney has quit designing.... again.
June 2, 2009 2:56 PM
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To be fair to Lisa, she quit before Nancie made all the changes to SA and then came back, not knowing just how much SA had changed. Maybe she just got fed up with it. I certainly don't shop at SA anymore since they got rid of half the forums and half the CT for no good reason.
anyone know how to find "crooked halo" and the offensive torrents
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...Lisa Whitney has quit designing.... again.
June 2, 2009 2:56 PM
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Are you kidding me? Let's see how long before she decides to come back this time! I swear they do it so they can get customers to feel bad for them, enough to do well when they run their "final" sale! Then when they return they make a grand re-entry hoping for lots of attention on themselves! Come on, haven't you guys caught onto this marketing scheme yet?! It wouldn't be a first, or a last.
word veri: portlfore
HA! As in a portal for designers coming and going! (Webster defines portal as "a grand and imposing entrance"!
June 2, 2009 6:37 PM
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ITA! Furniture stores are notorious for doing this as well. Whenever you see a "90 percent off closing sale" for a furniture store, you know in a few months a "new" furniture store will be having its "Grand Opening Blowout Sale".
Designers: Just communicate with your customers and create products as promised. Set expectations and then meet or beat them. Keep blogs professional. Save the personal stuff for your family and friends--the ones who love you. We don't love you, hell, we don't even know you. We love your work.
I love the designers who do just that. I don't know much about them and they consistently put out product and keep their promises. It's not that hard!!!!
Hmmm... WV=konseng I know there is something there but I am WAAAAAAAAAY to high up on my soap box to think of anything- the air is very thin up here.
anyone know how to find "crooked halo" and the offensive torrents
I don't get it, what is this? What is a torrent and who or what is a crooked halo. I've heard of torrents but have no clue honestly. I'm almost sure it has to do with downloading illegal files and that's not cool but please explain.
ITA! Furniture stores are notorious for doing this as well. Whenever you see a "90 percent off closing sale" for a furniture store, you know in a few months a "new" furniture store will be having its "Grand Opening Blowout Sale".
Designers: Just communicate with your customers and create products as promised. Set expectations and then meet or beat them. Keep blogs professional. Save the personal stuff for your family and friends--the ones who love you. We don't love you, hell, we don't even know you. We love your work.
I love the designers who do just that. I don't know much about them and they consistently put out product and keep their promises. It's not that hard!!!!
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Hallelujah..We must share a brain. Simple right?
Anonymous said...
Lisa Whitney has quit designing.... again.
June 2, 2009 2:56 PM
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To be fair to Lisa, she quit before Nancie made all the changes to SA and then came back, not knowing just how much SA had changed. Maybe she just got fed up with it. I certainly don't shop at SA anymore since they got rid of half the forums and half the CT for no good reason.
June 2, 2009 7:29 PM
I think SA went downhill long ago, beginning with the split of the 2 owners (Michelle and Nancie). Does anyone know why that even happened? I hate all the commercial use stuff and really miss the old, old SA. It's like Nancie sold out! Anyone else miss those days?
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As for Lisa's retirement, well it sounds like she has some personal stuff going on and I can understand that. I'm not a fan of hers but I'm sure she has a lot of people who love her style. It's just nice to see her being honest and not just, well..er...walking away! Hear that Bren? LOL
Ugh, there is nothing good going on. I did notice that AH finally posted the results from her little contest... how did the people earn points, anyway? It's kind of sad to see all the people with just a couple... She should have posted the top half and just let the others know they were below it.
wv: alittesc
A LITTLe diSCretion goes a long way for saving poor scrappers feelings, Amy.
It is sad that scrappers who stuck it out for all 6 weeks would only end up with 1 point, especially if they bought the kits.-you're right- save their feelings a bit and just post those over a certain point level.
I think SA went downhill long ago, beginning with the split of the 2 owners (Michelle and Nancie). Does anyone know why that even happened? I hate all the commercial use stuff and really miss the old, old SA. It's like Nancie sold out! Anyone else miss those days?
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I *heard* they had some big blow out because Michelle Coleman was so controlling about the biz they shared. I dont know either of them personally but I have heard Nancie is super sweet and Michelle is really stuck up. Then again she can be since she pretty much rules the digi and paper world. Ughh, I'm green with envy :(
Speaking of SA. WTH is this:
http://www.scrapartist.com/shoppe/product.php?productid=2438&cat=42&page=2
I have to say that this designer (MUJKA) is waaaaayy below sub-par for what I would expect from SA. Her work is horrible in my opinion. Everything she sells is stock images/clip art recolored. I have to wonder if she designs a single thing herself! This disgusts me. I think she has some Dover frames for sale too. Wow, just slap them on a page and just sell them huh? and commercially? This store HAS gone downhill and I hope Nancy opens her eyes. This is a far cry from the kind of shop she used to run. What a sell-out and turn off. I guess I better learn to design quick! LOL
dont know either of them personally but I have heard Nancie is super sweet and Michelle is really stuck up. Then again she can be since she pretty much rules the digi and paper world. Ughh, I'm green with envy :(
June 2, 2009 11:59 PM
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I haven't had dealings with Michelle, but have had with Nancie and I translate super sweet as being indecisive and wishy washy about business and stuck up as knowing what she wants and how to get it. Just my opinion from my experience.
wv: alittesc
A LITTLe diSCretion goes a long way for saving poor scrappers feelings, Amy.
June 2, 2009 11:47 PM
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We are talking about the woman who sent an indiscreet message to her entire newsletter subscribers. Personally, I think Amy and discretion are complete strangers.
Alright... bat signal SSD. A TON of your kits are being shared there!
Anyone know anything about if/when Christina Renee will reopen?
It would have been helpful to see the SUTUCS points breakdown, just as it would have been helpful to know how votes translated into points. But I suppose that's too much to ask when it took 4+ weeks just to get the totals posted. Hurt feelings suck for those with few points, but what can you do? If Amy hadn't posted all the totals they would have been irked about that. I'm just glad it's finally over and can be forgotten in five minutes.
Well since the contestants are "numbers" I don't really see the big deal with listing everyone's point totals. Also it is a contest, they need to have thick skin. The overall winner - Rebecca - put on a shirt, looks like she is wearing a bra only.
Note to all:
I deleted the post above indicating the web address of an illegal file sharing website. I don't make a habit of deleting anything here, but I do not want to condone pirating websites. Feel free to speak of piracy issues, but please do not share any links that would facilitate this behavior. Thanks!
what if I'm a pirate and WANT to share? Where would I go?
what if I'm a pirate and WANT to share? Where would I go?
June 3, 2009 2:34 PM
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I'll tell you where you can go!
what if I'm a pirate and WANT to share? Where would I go?
June 3, 2009 2:34 PM
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You're a fucking cunt
oh, my. Big, nasty words from anonymous people. How scary.
what if I'm a pirate and WANT to share? Where would I go?
June 3, 2009 2:34 PM
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If you were really a pirate, you would know where to go.
My designers have all already changed their requirements to eliminate DST. I am thankful. Uploading there is a nightmare!
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Tell me whose teams YOU'RE on please! I'll apply for them today! I've dropped a bug in my designer's ears more than once... still no luck!
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That's because designers want you to post where you will get EXPOSURE and there's no comparison between DST and DSA...it's not even close. All you have to do is pick out any random location (say 50 pages back or a certain date) and compare the number of views the two galleries are getting.
Ugh, I just wanted the demonoid link out of curiosity more than anything else. Please post again, I won't download hehehe.
A5 is down again?
It doesn't matter anymore, CrookedHalo got shut down. So... there's no reason to bring it up anymore.
Yeah, it looks like A5D IS down again. They just can't get their stuff together, can they?
I thought A5D got a new server...LMAO! Amy must have just bought herself something with that money! And the points they used for judging was sad and pathetic and I think it was really harsh they gave some 1 point...that was lame! They are lame! Glad I don't shop there!
And the points they used for judging was sad and pathetic and I think it was really harsh they gave some 1 point...that was lame! They are lame! Glad I don't shop there!
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That's why I don't enter contests. I don't want scrapping to be a competitive sport! I have enough worries and struggles with myself over my own layouts...I certainly don't need others judging my layouts and assigning 'points' to it!
Anyone know anything about if/when Christina Renee will reopen?
June 3, 2009 8:35 AM
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Seeing as at least six months have gone by since the supposed new store, I'd say probably never. She's doing well in the paper scrap world, why bother with the digi one? Besides, there's a ton of digi designers who do the same thing as Christina and so much better as well.
I didn't know she was doing designs in the paper world.
Yeah, it looks like A5D IS down again. They just can't get their stuff together, can they?
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Maybe Amy was on vacation again? Or maybe Amy and Shannon shop at the same "new server" store?
I didn't know she was doing designs in the paper world.
June 3, 2009 11:28 PM
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Yep, she has been for ages. She was doing stuff for Prima and Creating Keepsakes, I'm not sure about CK, it could have been Memory Makers.
So...predictions on the winner of SYTYCD?
I read about the contest here & FINALLLY decided to go check out the designer kits last week for the first time. I've got gigs & gigs of stuff that I've bought & never used and I just couldn't see anything that I really needed; however, today I decided to download all of Maelia designs so I could check out the water color papers. They really look pretty in the previews.
My guess is that Maelia will win.
For the contest this week, I think Maelia will get my vote- So far it is the only kit I think I can actually use. I don't like the color orange and is seems to be used a lot.
I'm torn between Jady Day and Maelia. How would they know if we vote twice, for 2 designers?
jady day's final week kit is full of jaggies. the quality on most elements is not great. just thought i'd mention.
I actually don't even LIKE Jadyday's stuff - I find it very "meh." Maelia's stuff is nice but not my style at all. I think I am voting for either Amy Sumrall or Amy Stoffel.
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While the ideas she has had is pretty good, the quality is definitely lacking.
There are only 2 that have really stood out to me quality wise and ability to put a kit together.
But you know the studio gang still have a girl to root for, so even though I aint voting for her, My bets are on her being the winner
is anyone actually downloading the kit and taking a good look before they decide who they're voting for?
I downloaded the nature one, rainy afternoon (think that is one of the amy's) and the camping one, cause I was looking for more of a lake type camp just today and the price was good! but I'm not voting...
these are the first kits I really liked...that rainyday one is very nice..
is anyone actually downloading the kit and taking a good look before they decide who they're voting for?
June 4, 2009 12:26 PM
I think I am going to unzip the element packs I d/l'd and give them a once over before I vote.
is anyone actually downloading the kit and taking a good look before they decide who they're voting for?
June 4, 2009 12:26 PM
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Yes - although admittedly, I haven't downloaded EVERY kit. I only download the ones I like, will use and that fit my style. In earlier weeks, there were actually kits that I downloaded, opened up, looked at closely and then trashed because the preview made them look MUCH better than they were.
They're all up now. Who to vote for? Hmm.
I think the quality is down for many of the designers this week. I downloaded the previous weeks kits and they were great. This week the ones I have downloaded are "meh" quality. Maybe the designers are all worn out after 5 weeks of churning out kits.
I'm still voting for Jady. Hers are the only kits I've downloaded all 5 of. Hopefully, someone sees this an emails her a tutorial on getting rid of jaggies, because her kits are so cute otherwise!
If she needs a tutorial to get or jaggies, maybe she shouldn't be designing.
I'm torn between Amy Stoffel and SweetDigiScraps.
I'm still voting for Jady. Hers are the only kits I've downloaded all 5 of. Hopefully, someone sees this an emails her a tutorial on getting rid of jaggies, because her kits are so cute otherwise!
June 4, 2009 1:22 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but doesn't the fact that her kits are full of "jaggies" sort of seem...odd at this point in the contest? I mean, someone with a kit full of jaggies makes the top ten? And you're going to vote for her, despite the fact that she can't fix such a basic thing? I'll be using my vote for someone who designs a quality, useable kit...sans jaggies at the very least.
Oh wow was Jady bitten by the jaggies bug?
I just went through about 2/3 of the elements from Jady's kit and only two of them had stray pixels... and they were VERY minor stray pixels that I was able to erase without an issue.
As far as jagged edges, the elements I found them on, they did not seem out of place... to me they just looked like they should be that way.
It sounds to me like someone is trying to discredit the competition of their favorite designer.
I agree 4:21. I think another designer from the contest is in here stirring the pot and we all know who likes to post on this blog.
the lines on the bird especially, are not clean at all. just sayin. the hotdog and owl, too.
They're all up now. Who to vote for? Hmm.
June 4, 2009 1:01 PM
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What happened to Megan and Tracie?
I haven't downloaded any this week, none of them appeal to me.
What happened to Megan and Tracie?
I haven't downloaded any this week, none of them appeal to me.
They both had to bow out. There are threads that explain it at DSA....
I feel badly for those who got cut in the last round, Kami and Shauna could have bumped two more people up to fill their spots!
They both had to bow out. There are threads that explain it at DSA....
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Thanks. I don't hang at DSA so I missed those.
ScrapOrchard is having a CT contest...
Are any of you going to play along in the CTC since it was speculated that the SUTUCD winners will be selling @ SO?
Just curious to see what's what....
I don't know where you get your info, but Crooked Halo is not shut down. She is happily sharing her stash is full force.
It doesn't matter anymore, CrookedHalo got shut down. So... there's no reason to bring it up anymore.
June 3, 2009 7:25 PM
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Oh no she didn't.
I agree 4:21. I think another designer from the contest is in here stirring the pot and we all know who likes to post on this blog.
June 4, 2009 4:28 PM
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Do "we"?
Then, who am I?
That's because designers want you to post where you will get EXPOSURE and there's no comparison between DST and DSA...it's not even close. All you have to do is pick out any random location (say 50 pages back or a certain date) and compare the number of views the two galleries are getting.
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True, but when I check the Currently Active Users at DST and DSA at the same time, DSA almost always has more people in their forum. If more designers would just change their requirements and have their CT members post in DSA's Praise Game instead of DST's, they would get just as many views.
If more designers would just change their requirements and have their CT members post in DSA's Praise Game instead of DST's, they would get just as many views.
June 4, 2009 11:28 PM
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I highly doubt it. The number of views per LO at DSA is pretty crappy.
voting has begun - who would you like to see win, and who do you think actually will?
I highly doubt it. The number of views per LO at DSA is pretty crappy.
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Yes, I know the views are low right now, that's why I said that more designers would have to change their requirements so their CT members would play the praise game at DSA. Why do you think LOs at DST get so many views? It's all because of the praise game, and most of the people playing the game are only doing it because of CT requirements.
That's because designers want you to post where you will get EXPOSURE and there's no comparison between DST and DSA...it's not even close. All you have to do is pick out any random location (say 50 pages back or a certain date) and compare the number of views the two galleries are getting.
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I highly doubt it. The number of views per LO at DSA is pretty crappy.
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Ummm, okay... I don't really spend much time at either site, but was curious if this was true and hate seing something like this go by unchallenged (twice now). Plus it's so patently obvious an informerical for DST it's kind of annoying. So I went back to page 41 (my randomly selected number) of each and here's what I saw:
DST (views per layout on what was page 41 at the time)
3, 3, 4, 34, 8, 3, 31, 63, 16, 75, 27, 42, 84, 76, 5, 4, 1, 1, 14, 1
Average per pic = 24.75
Median = 11
DSA (views per layout on what was page 41 at the time)
8, 10, 15, 13, 13, 11, 6, 6, 17, 7, 24, 22
Average per pic = 12.67
Median = 12
So, at least in the two I looked at, it looks like DST has more views on a few pics, but 'no comparison' or calling DSA 'crappy' seems to be a bit of a stretch. Way more (at least to me) would be 500 to 1 or something. At best, this is maybe 2 - 1 in favor of DST. Also from a statistics point of view find it interesting that there's such a wide variance at DST (alot of <5 views and an equal number >40 views) whereas DSA seems more even. Not sure what that means (praise game influence?), but it's interesting.
Just sayin'....
Plus it's so patently obvious an informerical for DST it's kind of annoying.
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What's annoying is automatically assuming that because I said something negative about DSA, I therefore am in favor of DST. Hate to break it to you, but I don't hang at either place.
So, at least in the two I looked at, it looks like DST has more views on a few pics, but 'no comparison' or calling DSA 'crappy' seems to be a bit of a stretch.
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The problem with statistics is that they can say whatever you want them to say. When I said the views at DSA were crappy, they were. I looked at page 1 of both DSA and DST. At DST, 50% of the LOs had at least 3 or more comments. At DSA, it was under 20%.
What's annoying is automatically assuming that because I said something negative about DSA, I therefore am in favor of DST. Hate to break it to you, but I don't hang at either place.
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The problem with statistics is that they can say whatever you want them to say. When I said the views at DSA were crappy, they were. I looked at page 1 of both DSA and DST. At DST, 50% of the LOs had at least 3 or more comments. At DSA, it was under 20%.
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If statistics don't mean anything than clearly saying something is 'crappy' or 'no comparison' with no context is just waaayyyy more accurate then actual numbers, right?
Whatever. It's not like I give a rat's ass either way.
What's annoying is the owner/owner's minion of DST and the owner/owner's minion of DSA POSTING ON HERE LIKE THEY AREN'T INTERESTED AT ALL. Why in the hell would someone that:
1. Never visits either site
2. Could care less
3. Is bored with the whole thing
4. Blah blah blah baa baa baa
Bother to type so many words about something they don't care about (not to mention do statistical research.) Don't pee on our legs ladies and tell us it's raining!
DST (views per layout on what was page 41 at the time)
3, 3, 4, 34, 8, 3, 31, 63, 16, 75, 27, 42, 84, 76, 5, 4, 1, 1, 14, 1
Average per pic = 24.75
Median = 11
DSA (views per layout on what was page 41 at the time)
8, 10, 15, 13, 13, 11, 6, 6, 17, 7, 24, 22
Average per pic = 12.67
Median = 12
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You fail at statistics.
The median is the middle value.
Therefor DST median is: 15
1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 8, 14, 16, 27, 31, 34, 42, 63, 75, 76, 84
DSA median is: 12
6, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 13, 15, 17, 22, 24
The mode is the number repeated most often.
DST mode: 1 or 3
DSA mode: 6 or 13
DST has some very high numbers that affect the results.
I have no horse in this race btw, I just like statistics.
LOL ^ She's right!
The median is the middle value.
Therefor DST median is: 15
1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 8, 14, 16, 27, 31, 34, 42, 63, 75, 76, 84
^^^^^^
Ouch, smackblog fail?
Not the OP, but wouldn't the median be the number between the tenth and eleventh value?
1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 8 = first 10 numbers
14, 16, 27, 31, 34, 42, 63, 75, 76, 84 = second 10 numbers
Therefore median = (8 + 14) / 2 = 11
LMAO that we're arguing about a bunch of arbitrary numbers, but unfortunately I have nothing better to do :-(
we don't care about your stats
Speaking of jaggies, does anyone had a tut or know of one off the top of your head? still trying to learn PS and this would help.
To save everyone time and energy, I've created these handy templates below for designers/store owners/site owners to blog here pretending to be an angry customer at one of their competitors and another handy template for designers/store owners/site owners to blog here pretending to be a supportive customer.
Smackblog "Angry Customer" template
I'm just 'Jane Average Customer' here and I really (hate/dislike/am annoyed by/would like to burn at the stake) that stupid (bitch/group of bitches/witch/witches) at (designer store name/store name/site name). (She/They) are so (unprofessional/rude/bitchy/lame/stupid/arrogant/possesed by evil) and all they really do is (steal designers/steal ideas/copy other's work/act like a bitch/act like bitches/recolor CU/use black magic). I am personally never going to (shop there again/go there again/give them money/be forced to endure their evil ways) and am so offended that anyone else would. I may be just a lowly customer, I am certainly not a fancy (designer/store owner/site owner), but my opinion matters too, so there!
Smackblog "Supportive Customer" template
Wow, I don't know (designer name/store owner name/site owner name) at all and I'm just a normal, everyday, plain old vanilla scrapper who is certainly not a (designer/store owner/site owner), but I think they're just (peachy/wonderful/ultra-cool/hip/super duper nice/umbrella users). I don't know much about the situation, but from what I've heard (designer name/store owner name/site owner name) certainly would never (steal
designers/steal ideas/copy other's work/act like a bitch/recolor CU/wear goulashes). I think the original poster is just a (jealous
hag/bitch/dumbass/rain-lover) and needs to (get over it/shut up/quit bitching/stop whining/buy a raincoat). Now I'll definitely be checking out
(designer name/store name/site name) even though I know nothing about them and am just a customer!
it's somewhere between 8 and 14
LOL 12:31
Thank you template creator! I laughed so hard, I cried.
LMAO 12:31 That is the best post I have ever read here!!!
12:31 I'm going to use your template. Many thanks! Oh, and I'm not a designer/store owner either. ;)
12.31, I'm sure your post was funny, but I got bored reading it, sorry.
What's annoying is the owner/owner's minion of DST and the owner/owner's minion of DSA POSTING ON HERE LIKE THEY AREN'T INTERESTED AT ALL. Why in the hell would someone that:
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Seriously, are you so lacking in intelligence that everything has to be either or? As some wise person posted a while back, I'm just here to stir the pot. You are way too caught up in the two party system, it makes you think that everything has to be one or the other.
New topics anyone?
In the last months it seems there has been one designer contest after another... How much do designers and store owners think these might be hurting their business? a poll would be interesting
Do you think people tend to not shop or buy less when they have a huge variety of free kits available to them at any given time? A fair of them are decent quality
Do stores see a dip in sales? I'd honestly like to see less of these contests where the contestants give away all of their kits... or maybe limit the amount of freebies given out. anyone else who has been thinking about this?
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i was considering this, too- but more along the lines of the designers spending so much time making the entries each week, that they don't have time to make products to put in the store
Maybe at the end of a competition the public can vote on their favorite kit from each designer. Then only the most popular kit from each one could be given as the freebie. You'd still get one kit per designer that way. Then again, all the freebie hunters probably wouldn't like that idea.
I'm wondering how this contest will end... So people are voting for the designers, aren't the results just another fake? How can we be sure they don't do all this show and decide who wins anyway?
I've been reading this blog for a few months now, and I just have to comment. I find it so funny that just about EVERYTHING in the digi scrap world is viewed (by posters on this blog) as a conspiracy. It's kind of funny, when you think about it.
That is all.
I wouldn't be surprised if the contest is fixed... how do we know?
the store owners know who they want to have sell at their shop- if the voters choose someone they don't really want, they'll choose someone else anyway...
Maybe at the end of a competition the public can vote on their favorite kit from each designer. Then only the most popular kit from each one could be given as the freebie. You'd still get one kit per designer that way. Then again, all the freebie hunters probably wouldn't like that idea.
June 6, 2009 4:31 AM
You're right, the freebie hunters wouldn't like it, but I think it's not a bad idea.
Another thought..... don't release all of those entries as freebies, until near the end of the contest, when each contestant can pick out what they think are their 2 best kits they entered and release them as freebies. and maybe they can get an idea from comments as to which 2 might be the best ones to release... Then people can vote based on those 2 kits from each designer. It's kind of a compromise... people still get freebies but not such an overwhelming glut of freebies, and it still gives the contestants a chance to ~wow~ the judges, whether that be store-owners or everyone voting. And they can still show off more than one style or type of kit. The contest sponsors would still get the full kit in order to make their decisions, but no other kits released until near the end.
Another idea... have them release just a small sample of each kit they enter, with a maximum number of pieces they can give away. That would allow them to still be able to actually sell the kit after the contest... seems fair after all the work they do.
Or after the first round, when every contestant could give one full kit away, and then a large cut would be made, allow the remaining contestants to give a sample of each of their entries, and let them sell the remainders of the contest kits in the store that is sponsoring the contest - at a lower than usual price. Sales would be the best judge of which designers would be a good fit for their store anyway.
I find it so funny that just about EVERYTHING in the digi scrap world is viewed (by posters on this blog) as a conspiracy. It's kind of funny, when you think about it.
That is all.
June 6, 2009 10:37 AM
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There are only a few things I view as a conspiracy, and it's certainly nothing that has ever been posted on this blog.
Anyone who thinks that the views and comments in the DST gallery are anything other than CT pimping is completely delusional.
The gallery at DST is a complete joke. Almost No one goes or posts there unless they absolutely HAVE to. Why would they? It hasn't worked like it should for at least two years.
as for the dst gallery, unless you're part of some large group of "in" people you don't get any views at all.
DST is a farce. shannon is a dimwit who espouses Christianity but doesn't appear to live it.
DSA aint no better. I'm through with both.
This place is a snooze fest.
Must be time for some shit to hit the fan! It's the quiet before the storm...
hahaha - just wait, it's coming
hopefully some new juicy gossip for folks to get in a tizzy about. DST, DSA, contests........old, need something new and fresh to stir the pot.
It had better come soon, or we'll have to start making shit up.
What do you guys think about patterned paper that has big obvious fold lines all over it?? (Like the paper has been folded several times & roughed up). I've noticed lots of it lately, especially in the SYTYCD contest entries.
When I'm doing a grungy style layout it's ok. But I mostly find it hard to use, because I prefer less distressed papers.
I wish the heavily folded & distressed patterned papers came in a "cleaner" version too. (wishful thinking). :) Especially when I see a delicate looking patterned paper that has big tears/folds all over it.
Anyways, anyone else feel this way?
Do you think the big fold lines & heavily distressed paper is a short term trend, or here to stay??
They're probably using multiple CU items and by combining the, making it their own and "unique." Take away the grunge/creases- identifiable.
It had better come soon, or we'll have to start making shit up.
June 7, 2009 8:16 PM
LOL! Isn't that what everyone here (maybe including myself, maybe not) does anyway!?!
Anyways, anyone else feel this way?
Do you think the big fold lines & heavily distressed paper is a short term trend, or here to stay??
June 7, 2009 9:39 PM
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I think you should find designers that don't distress their papers so much. Or if someone is your favorite send them an email and let them know what you want. I'm not sure it's a trend because it's been around for a long time. I like your idea of including both.
What do you guys think about patterned paper that has big obvious fold lines all over it?? (Like the paper has been folded several times & roughed up). I've noticed lots of it lately, especially in the SYTYCD contest entries.
When I'm doing a grungy style layout it's ok. But I mostly find it hard to use, because I prefer less distressed papers.
I wish the heavily folded & distressed patterned papers came in a "cleaner" version too. (wishful thinking). :) Especially when I see a delicate looking patterned paper that has big tears/folds all over it.
Anyways, anyone else feel this way?
Do you think the big fold lines & heavily distressed paper is a short term trend, or here to stay??
June 7, 2009 9:39 PM
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That trend has been here for a long time, almost all my papers have always been heavily distressed, sometimes crumpled etc. It is my design style, there are plenty of designers out there who have a cleaner style.
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They're probably using multiple CU items and by combining the, making it their own and "unique." Take away the grunge/creases- identifiable.
June 7, 2009 10:33 PM
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That would depend on the designer, I create all my own textures, patterns, grunge brushes etc etc. Just because a paper is heavily distressed, doesn't mean it is all CU.... some of us can actually design rather than 'compile'.
Anyways, anyone else feel this way?
Do you think the big fold lines & heavily distressed paper is a short term trend, or here to stay??
June 7, 2009 9:39 PM
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Well, it's been around for at least 8 months, so hardly a short term trend.
It had better come soon, or we'll have to start making shit up.
June 7, 2009 8:16 PM
LOL! Isn't that what everyone here (maybe including myself, maybe not) does anyway!?!
June 7, 2009 10:56 PM
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Yeah, it is. We so made up the whole Amanda Dykan/LilyAnne Taylor scenario; and we also made up all the other scrams that took place in the digi community.
Guesses on who's going to end up at SO?
Guesses on who's going to end up at SO?
June 8, 2009 1:49 AM
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Lyndsay, I hope.
Well, it's been around for at least 8 months, so hardly a short term trend.
June 8, 2009 1:40 AM
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ROFL it's been around just a TAD longer than that! Try at least 4yrs! It is not a fad, it is s style.
ROFL it's been around just a TAD longer than that! Try at least 4yrs! It is not a fad, it is s style.
June 8, 2009 2:31 AM
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ROFL as well. I meant in profusion. I know it's been around forever, but it's been around almost everywhere for the last 8 months or so.
ROFL it's been around just a TAD longer than that! Try at least 4yrs! It is not a fad, it is s style.
June 8, 2009 2:31 AM
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ROFL as well. I meant in profusion. I know it's been around forever, but it's been around almost everywhere for the last 8 months or so.
Geez! An other contest: http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2923
Concerning statistics of DST verses DSA: If you really want to compare apples to apples, you can't just go 41 pages back on each site. Everyone knows that the older the layout is, the more views it gets. Since DST gets 3 times as many layouts posted each day as DSA, the layouts 41 pages back will be much newer at DST. To illustrate my point, if you click on '7 days' at each site, you'll get:
DSA: 2879 layouts
DST: 7056 layouts
A better comparison will be to look at a specific date at each site.
BTW - I'm one of the OPs that brought up stats and I have no special interest in either site - I'm just a CT member that likes to use her time wisely and I don't see any reason to post my layouts in a gallery where no one will see them.
Finally, views suck at BOTH sites if you don't play the praise game. So an even better comparison would be to go back a week or so ago, look at praise game layouts only and compare the two sites.
Guesses on who's going to end up at SO?
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Faith True
Geez! An other contest: http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2923
June 8, 2009 1:21 PM
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Old news. I thought you were talking about something else.
Finally, views suck at BOTH sites if you don't play the praise game. So an even better comparison would be to go back a week or so ago, look at praise game layouts only and compare the two sites.
June 8, 2009 3:05 PM
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I'm not sure praise game numbers indicate much as far as potential customer views. If it's a CT requirement and posters hurry thru just to meet requirements then it's not indicative of what you're saying.
Praise game views is analogous to a dog eating it's own vomit and calling that gourmet dining.
Praise game views is analogous to a dog eating it's own vomit and calling that gourmet dining.
ROTFMAO!! That's the best description for that "game" I've seen yet! HATE that damn game!
Newsflash for all the CT gallery posters: You and other CTs are just about the only ones looking at ANY LO's at DST or DSA.
Most of the regular scrappers gave up on the 'hub' galleries a long time ago when they became nothing but dumping grounds for all the CT pimping.
So knock yourselves out arguing over which of your CT lo's are getting the most views. It's kind of amusing
So true. I'd like to see "regular" scrappers who aren't trying to be the best, just trying to scrap their memories. I can always tell who they are and I leave comments for them if I can find them amongst the rabid ct pimping.
I'll also never quite understand why designers need these CT members who create stuff that beginners and average scrappers just can't or don't want to scrap. I'd like to see some normal pages with kits that maybe I could make. I don't want to extract my kids from the photos and stick them in the middle of some wierd scene, I want to scrap the photographs I took so I can remember the days I took them.
I don't want to extract my kids from the photos and stick them in the middle of some wierd scene, I want to scrap the photographs I took so I can remember the days I took them.
June 9, 2009 7:41 AM
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Hear, hear! Bravissimo! ITA 100%
I wonder if Prima and the original artist know about this?
http://www.bluemoonscrapbooking.com/SPD/45-50012--7074065532655141121.jsp
http://fylleth.deviantart.com/art/No-One-s-Looking-III-14850584
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Those stamps are Christina Renee's, I highly doubt she has permission for the image/stamp in question as many of the pieces in her products are floating around Flickr groups.
Also, to the person who mentioned she was designing for CK or MM - I know she is, or at least was supposed to be designing for a scrap company who hold parties, not sure which one it is though. She posted about the company on DST a while back and I think I remember some negative feedback.
Breaking news...Maelia Designs is the winner of the SYTYCD contest..details at eleven...
wow....I don't really like her stuff much as it is SO not my style but the public has spoken so congrats to her!
I would have liked Jady Day to win or SDS or even Faith True before her.
nice that MSA isn't bothering to tell anyone what is going on with the gallery.
: ( I guess it's because that fantasy style is so "in" right now. I thought her kits were boring.
I just checked my DST gallery. I haven't shared in over a year. Just a scrapper here but why share when no one even looks at your layouts let alone comments. It seems to me that the gallery at DST is just for seeing what is out there and new and how it is being used. Sort of like a fashion show. It's nice to go and oogle but the everyday person doesn't really participate there.
I think DSA is more cliquish than DST. I don't know why people have a problem with fantasy layouts. I agree with the poster that it's like a fashion show. Just go to get some ideas. If you care so much about scrapping your family memories, who cares if you do not get any comments. Is validation by some strangers worth it? I am so sick of this DSA versus DST conversation. I still like DST over DSA but I don't really really that much for DST either.
isn't it Prima that Christina Renee was designing for now? so those stamps are probably her own design. Can't say I miss her anyway, at first her stuff was good but it all went to shit at the end anyway.
well congratulations to Maelia. I thought her stuff was really good actually. I downloaded all of her kits. guess it's just a matter of what style you like. I voted for MGL though, but Maelia would have been my second choice.
I'll also never quite understand why designers need these CT members who create stuff that beginners and average scrappers just can't or don't want to scrap. I'd like to see some normal pages with kits that maybe I could make. I don't want to extract my kids from the photos and stick them in the middle of some wierd scene, I want to scrap the photographs I took so I can remember the days I took them.
June 9, 2009 7:41 AM
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There are a lot of designers that create 'regular' kits and whose CT don't extract their kids and put them in weird scenes. They might extract their kids, but they don't put them into a fantasy scene.
sn't it Prima that Christina Renee was designing for now? so those stamps are probably her own design. Can't say I miss her anyway, at first her stuff was good but it all went to shit at the end anyway.
June 9, 2009 5:52 PM
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Christina started designing for Prima well over a year ago, I don't know if she still is. I liked the look of her stuff but the quality was terrible. One of the very few designers that I actually complained too because it was so bad.
Some of those CT members that are extracting their kids and putting them into scenes are not, how do you know that they are not doing it for their own memory preservation? I don't do fantasy either but it's arrogant of you to assume that your way is the way scrapping should be.
Some of those CT members that are extracting their kids and putting them into scenes are not, how do you know that they are not doing it for their own memory preservation? I don't do fantasy either but it's arrogant of you to assume that your way is the way scrapping should be.
June 9, 2009 6:17 PM
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The only arrogance around here is coming from the above poster. It's arrogant of you to misquote the original poster, telling her she's arrogant based on you twisting her post.
No where does she say her way is right or best. Go re-read the post and nit pick something else.
She's entitled to prefer a style sans fantasy and state her preference.
Remember when CR sold her kid's art? People ate that shit up.
She sold her kid's art??? OMG... that's hilarous ... I would love to see what that looked like.
Apparently she's not returning to digiland.
She sold her kid's art??? OMG... that's hilarous ... I would love to see what that looked like.
Apparently she's not returning to digiland.
June 9, 2009 7:04 PM
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Oh yeah. She had made the art into papers and put them into a grab bag as a 'bonus'. Her CT thought it was super cool, most of her customers thought it was awful. There's nothing wrong with a mom being proud of her kid's art, but selling it is a totally different matter. Her kid was 2 or 3 at the time, so you can imagine what it was like. I think the biggest complaint was that she took photos of the art while it was still wet, so the paint on the papers was all shiny with glare spots.
Apparently she's not returning to digiland.
June 9, 2009 7:04 PM
Has she said this?
She will be back.
I'll also never quite understand why designers need these CT members who create stuff that beginners and average scrappers just can't or don't want to scrap. I'd like to see some normal pages with kits that maybe I could make. I don't want to extract my kids from the photos and stick them in the middle of some wierd scene, I want to scrap the photographs I took so I can remember the days I took them.
June 9, 2009 7:41 AM
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Having a CT that can't scrap worth a crap probably isn't terribly good for business. Why have a mediocre team when your goal is to show the best of your kits? Don't like the style? Fine. I get that. But CTMs should be talented. Makes no sense to have "average" scrappers promoting your stuff, IMO. Maybe that's not how you meant it.
But I see what you're saying..I think designers should really pick more diverse teams of talented scrappers to appeal to scrappers of all different styles.
But I also don't think all CTMs are the same. I think there are TONS of talented CTMs who scrap in the style you like. And also those who scrap in the style you don't like but who still do it for their families memories. I actually think the CTMs who *don't* scrap for their own memories are in the minority.
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pretty damn arrogant of you to imply that CTs who do the fantasy lo's are somehow more talented than scrappers or CTs who don't. That's the attitude that has helped me keep my wallet tightly closed for the past few months.
I don't get how you read that from what she posted. Looks more like she was saying there are diverse teams out there so stop grouping everyone together. Good for you for keeping your wallet closed.
pretty damn arrogant of you to imply that CTs who do the fantasy lo's are somehow more talented than scrappers or CTs who don't. That's the attitude that has helped me keep my wallet tightly closed for the past few months.
June 9, 2009 8:26 PM
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She didn't imply that at all. She specifically said "I see what you are saying". I'm so tired of the scrappers who don't do fantasy thinking they are being picked on, they aren't, but they do whine an awful lot.
pretty damn arrogant of you to imply that CTs who do the fantasy lo's are somehow more talented than scrappers or CTs who don't. That's the attitude that has helped me keep my wallet tightly closed for the past few months.
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Wow. I touched a nerve. But I suppose it's my own fault for not having been clearer. That is not at all what I was implying. In fact I agree that teams could be more diverse. I was only saying that teams should be *talented* and not *average* no matter the style.
Sorry for any misunderstanding.
Wow. I touched a nerve. But I suppose it's my own fault for not having been clearer. That is not at all what I was implying. In fact I agree that teams could be more diverse. I was only saying that teams should be *talented* and not *average* no matter the style.
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Well I don't know what fantasy world you live in but
it's too bad more designers don't allow the average scrapper to CT for them because maybe they'd learn something about scrapbooking. How many CT really are average scrappers who just want to scrapbook their memories of their children, pets, etc without having all the frufru and fantasy. Everything I see is fantasy and way out of this world in galleries like DST.
Why not look at some store galleries where you really do see memories being scrapped. To me frufru isn't real scrapbooking, not the kind of scrapbooking that you see in the paper world and scrapbooking magazines. What the CT are scrapping isn't about a memory but how the designer wants her kit to be showcased. I don't pick my CT upon their talent but how they tell a story through their LOs.
I mean what happened to all the journaling so that one can understand why the page was done in the first place. These fantasy and frufru LOs, while beautiful and sometimes funny, they in no way reflect "real" life memories or even tell a real story. I'm so glad that I don't have to see that from my CT. They just want to scrap normal and they make great LOs to save their memories rather then having to see a child hanging from a vine envloped in a cluster of frufru. They are just your average scrapper and I love them to death.
Plus the snobbery from some of the CT out there has gotten totally out of hand. Everyone wants to work for the most popular designers. Give me a break just because someone is flavor of the moment doesn't mean that that someone will stay flavor of the moment for very long or that they really can design. So the next popular designer comes along and everyone is jumping out hoops to CT for them. It's come down to popularity in many cases and not real life scrapping.
Teams should be talented and not average-give me a break.
nice that MSA isn't bothering to tell anyone what is going on with the gallery.
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Sorry we couldn't post about it sooner, but we didn't know until I saw the post in the forum (thankfully someone did post about it). No one PM'd or emailed us about the issue and since it's summer break my rounds in digi-land have been seriously slowed down or I would have seen it sooner.
I started a thread at MSA about it this morning after hearing back from our web person about what the issue was - our disk is full, so we're upgrading to a dedicated server, just waiting to hear back from our host because Gina and I want MSA running as quickly and smoothly as possible! :)
Plus the snobbery from some of the CT out there has gotten totally out of hand. Everyone wants to work for the most popular designers. Give me a break just because someone is flavor of the moment doesn't mean that that someone will stay flavor of the moment for very long or that they really can design. So the next popular designer comes along and everyone is jumping out hoops to CT for them. It's come down to popularity in many cases and not real life scrapping.
Teams should be talented and not average-give me a break.
June 10, 2009 7:28 AM
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Sounds like some designer is JEALOUS of the flavors of the moment ... LOL!
From Traci Murphy: "Sorry we couldn't post about it sooner, but we didn't know until I saw the post in the forum (thankfully someone did post about it). No one PM'd or emailed us about the issue and since it's summer break my rounds in digi-land have been seriously slowed down or I would have seen it sooner."
Shows you how much people really care about MSA LOL
Teams should be talented and not average-give me a break.
June 10, 2009 7:28 AM
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Sounds like some designer is JEALOUS of the flavors of the moment ... LOL!
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Jealous you have got to be kidding. I think not LOL Sorry if telling it like it is is so foreign to some.
Sounds like some designer is JEALOUS of the flavors of the moment ... LOL!
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Sounds like some fad designer is MAD because someone likes something else. Such an original comment. Good job.
*rolls eyes*
I don't want to extract my kids from the photos and stick them in the middle of some wierd scene, I want to scrap the photographs I took so I can remember the days I took them.
June 9, 2009 7:41 AM
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Then don't do it. And let everyone else do whatever they want to do! If we would all just focus on building our own skills and stop being critics to the latest trends, this community would me a much better place!
Well I don't know what fantasy world you live in but
it's too bad more designers don't allow the average scrapper to CT for them because maybe they'd learn something about scrapbooking.
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I don't understand why you would think it would be better for a designer to allow a scrapper improve on her own dime? The point of a creative team is to promote the designer's kit. If the scrapper can't create interesting layout examples then it really defeats the purpose of having a CT. Would you buy a kit that you saw had an ugly layout with washed out, unfocused pictures and just a few papers and elements randomly scattered all over the page? Come on! This is business. The average scrapper can learn on freebies (been to DSA lately?) or by just *gasp* purchasing kits themselves!!!
Give me a break just because someone is flavor of the moment doesn't mean that that someone will stay flavor of the moment for very long or that they really can design. So the next popular designer comes along and everyone is jumping out hoops to CT for them. It's come down to popularity in many cases and not real life scrapping.
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I'm on a team for a very popular designer and she's been popular for a LONG time. I mean at least since I started 3.5 years ago. AND I scrap real life layouts, not fantasy. I've been doing this long enough to know that I only apply to CT for designers where I know that I can work with what they create. Most of the scrappers on this team and at this website I visit are not fantasy scrappers either. So I fit right in.
And in this designer's case it wasn't even a popularity contest. I had to create a layout using one of her kits. I got in based on my creativity with her kit. I think too many people generalize the popularity contest thing and don't really know much about what it takes to get onto these much desired teams. To say that I got on JUST because I'm popular is an outright insult. I'm not at all popular but it sucks that people may view me in that light because I'm on a top-notch designer's team!
If we would all just focus on building our own skills and stop being critics to the latest trends, this community would me a much better place!
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Ditto
Then don't do it. And let everyone else do whatever they want to do! If we would all just focus on building our own skills and stop being critics to the latest trends, this community would me a much better place!
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You're taking my comment out of context. Had you read my original post, I was basically stating that I don't see many CT layouts that appeal to the average scrapper, like me. I would like to see kits highlighting all ways a kit can be used, not just altered-art styles. I do scrap the way I want. I was in no way saying that any other way was wrong. An example of how I would do a layout would be one large picture in the center of a page, accented with a frame and using parts of a kit to enhance it with journaling. You don't see a whole lot of CT layouts like that. I wondered why and that's what my post was all about. I'm sure there are lots of CTs that post "average" scrapper style layouts but there are so many stores and galleries, it's hard to know without visiting a bunch of galleries. I don't have time. I like when designers post their CT layouts within the kit descriptions and those are basically the layouts I'm refering to that I don't see many pages that aren't fantasy or altered art styles. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong designers.
I would like to see kits highlighting all ways a kit can be used, not just altered-art styles. I do scrap the way I want. I was in no way saying that any other way was wrong. An example of how I would do a layout would be one large picture in the center of a page, accented with a frame and using parts of a kit to enhance it with journaling. You don't see a whole lot of CT layouts like that.
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Actually this isn't true. You're shopping at the wrong stores and looking at the wrong types of kits for YOUR scrapping style. There are some kits that work better for those who prefer a paper look and those that work better for those that prefer the fantasy/digital art style. I prefer mine to look more like paper so the fantasy-style kits just don't work for me. I shop at stores that pick CT that scrap like I do and I hardly ever see fantasy layouts as their weekly layout features (or layout of the day) or as CT examples for a kit.
stores that don't PRIMARILY cater to fantasy style kits (love 'em or hate 'em this is a list). You can always find a designer that is desiging more of a "paper" style kit.
Sweet Shoppe
Elemental Scraps
Scrap Matters
Scrap Orchard
Sunshine Studios
I'm sure there's more but those are the ones that I like!
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