Monday, February 15, 2010

Blog Spam

I always find it interesting to note which topics of conversation generate the blog spam. There are some regulars around digi land that are frequently mentioned here. I think they have given up the battle. They know eventually the topic will turn and it will be on to something else. Admittedly, I am not active around the "community" but I have been hosting the blog for awhile now and have noticed some trends.

Watch out when the blog bitches find a new target. They keep picking, they Google, they dig, they hunt IP's, they search other message boards, they jump in the way back machine and remind all of indiscretions of yesteryear.

The blog target virgins pick up the bat phone. Put out a virtual call for back up send the blog link to all. Their friends will try to defend, try to call everyone out for being anonymous. It gets nasty. They can't win against the blog bitches. So then they try diversionary tactics, attempt to change the subject to some other digi crime in recent memory. When that doesn't work, they resort to spam. Song lyrics, in multiple languages, middle school trash talk. Anything to bury the previous threads of conversation.

And don't forget about the Pearl clutching handslappers. You know, the ones that just want everyone to get along and sing Kum Bay Yah. The ones that scold people for posting, and wasting their time reading this internet trash, all while offering helpful alternate suggestions for spending time. You know, like watching kids, cooking dinner for your husband, reading the bible.

And the Lurkers, that stop by for entertainment value.

Which category are you?

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Anonymous said...

Well if it is a business, why wouldn't there be some kind of quota? I work in sales, and if I wouldn't be able to pull money in, my store would close. Why would you expect anything less from a digi store? If you don't cut it, no sense keeping you around in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

Another example of we want digi to act profressional but without the realities of the business world.

Anonymous said...

That has been my opinion for years. I never shop at the big stores, which is probably why I haven't spent any money for the last two years

What is SUN?

^^^^

Sunshine Studio Scraps

When I first started digiscrapping, they were pretty decent.
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Is it possible your tastes have changed? I'm just asking. Last I checked, but it's been a while...who did you find to be decent there who has since gone downhill? Are you talking about changing their style in general maybe? Some of the kits I have bought there have been great, but a few I've bought, I wasn't happy with the product...

Anonymous said...

Oh and my overall response to the blog post, I rarely post here, but I know I'm just as guilty. I regard DSTHoF to be my dirty little secret of sorts. Anytime I mention it to friends, I don't feel "right" without mentioning how it's more of my soaps than anything. I try to have perspective on some of the issues and be non-judgemental, but sometimes I can't help but feel a little triumphant when someone disses someone I also dislike, indignant with they trash someone I do in fact like, and strangely enlightened by the poli-talk of recent. I like to be ignorantly bliss to politics. (If it makes it better, I don't watch reality tv lol, DSTHoF is my only source for drama, and fittingly so. What other drama should I be interested in but the one that relates to my own interests. You Australians have a spare bed? Lol. No, but, even knowing all I do about America and the overall flawed system I'm not stupid enough to think I'd be comfortable elsewhere. No one does things right 100% of the time.

When it comes to welfare, I'll be the first to admit, that I get irritated by the overt over abuse of the system on the part of more than a few people, one of which who has OPENLY told me "Um why would I go get a job when I'm getting paid to sit and do nothing? I can go out and get a job, sure, but what? To work like a horse what I get paid just barely less for doing squat" (I've tried arguing with this person about the ordeal but it's beating a dead horse)

As far as the economy, I myself am far too picky and too greedy, and not within my rights. I don't have a degree, (though I would love nothing more than to go to school, I don't have the means to be taking out school loans)

Anonymous said...

[continued because I ramble too much for blogger comments. rofl]

I'd have to say I'm no better, nor worse, I live off of my husband and we live apart at the time when it's in actuality living beyond our means and as of late, I've considered going back simply because it's the financially stable decision and I'm fully aware that he and I living together is probably not a great option either. Funnily enough I live in a city where the unemployment isn't nearly as bad as many places, and jobs are readily available, but I play holier than thou with the jobs that ARE available, insisting to myself and others, that I wouldn't be productive in anything I wasn't into. (And for the record, this isn't a mock on someone else, I'm speaking honestly of myself and am able to be honest with my dissonance on life, the knowledge that I'm not ethically doing the right thing by not having a job, yet conveniently doing nothing about it at the same time. Again, please refer to the term used, dissonance)I think my biggest issue is feeling like if I did get a job I'd be away from my toddler for longer than necessary, and paying daycare for my son would counter-balance any income I could expect to see from it. Because of lack of transportation on my part, I find myself in a "can't" Catch 22. I can't drive, because I have no car. I have no car, because I have no job, I have no job, because I have no car to get there, and further, because I have no personal income, I can't buy a car to learn properly...I have considered bus routes, do not misconfuse me for lack of attempt, and I had the best intents, but it's disheartening that when I was looking, and couldn't seem to find a job that I knew I would be productive in. I love doing so many things and, I know that I'd do well many jobs would be great for me, unfortunately, available jobs expect past job history and, well, I didn't require a job before, so again right now, I live as frugally as I am capable and feel blessed enough that even though my husband is a huge meanie jerk butthead, he's an unselfish and responsible one who's best interest is in taking care of us. Huge luck out there. I'm a "single" stay at home mom (and I don't live off of "welfare" unless you would like to say that my butthead husband plays the role of my favorite abused taxpayer.

Anonymous said...

WTH was that all about? Thanks for your life story. YAWN.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible your tastes have changed? I'm just asking.

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They used to have some realy great designers but they moved on to other stores. They're ok right now but I hardly ever shop there because many of them sell at other shops.

Anonymous said...

The packaging of the grab-bags says $3 but it's $6 when I put it in my cart. False advertising!

Anonymous said...

^that's at SUN.

Anonymous said...

The packaging of the grab-bags says $3 but it's $6 when I put it in my cart. False advertising!

It's $3 for the month, then it goes to regular price. I always grab it early because they are really great!

Anonymous said...

Then they need to change the preveiew to reflect that. It says $3 and doesn't say anything about an end date on that price! As a newbie to the store, I don't know about the sales games they play.

Anonymous said...

http://sunshinestudioscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=3175&cat=0&page=1

she's right. They have to sell that at $3, not at $6.

Anonymous said...

It came up as $3 when I put it in my cart. Either they fixed it fast or something was wonky with your cart at that moment?

wv duclow: duc low cause the crap's flying at the DSTHOF. LOL

Anonymous said...

I just got an email from SBE for their 6th birthday celebration. It got me thinking about who else has been around that long. (5+ years) This is all I could come up with: SBE, SBB, DSP, SBG, Digitals. Anyone else? I didn't add Shabby Princess because hers is a personal store. I'm thinking consignment stores.

Anonymous said...

Someone at SUN reads this blog. They fixed it because I saw it at $6 too.

Anonymous said...

And what do Australians have to do with your long winded life story? Just curious.

Anonymous said...

I just got an email from SBE for their 6th birthday celebration. It got me thinking about who else has been around that long. (5+ years) This is all I could come up with: SBE, SBB, DSP, SBG, Digitals. Anyone else? I didn't add Shabby Princess because hers is a personal store. I'm thinking consignment stores.

March 31, 2010 1:15 PM

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You need to remove SBG because it has only been a consignment store for the last three years. Designer Digitals and maybe ScrapGirls? Not sure though.

Anonymous said...

Ahh, yes, Scrap Girls has been. I forgot about them.

wv: dooki. That designer's kit looks like dooki. LOL!

Anonymous said...

What about Scrapartist? It was one of the first ones.

Anonymous said...

Ok, so Scrap Artist, Designer Digitals, Scrap Girls, SBE, SBB, Digitals, and DSP. Any others? I can't believe I forgot Scrap Artist and Scrap Girls. They were the first 2 shops I bought from. Designer Digitals was the 3rd.

I think 3 Scrapateers has been along that long too. Are they still around?

And before someone says, "Who cares" I'll say that I do. If they've been around that long, I'm thinking they aren't going to run away with my money or support pirates. Plus, with all the new "shops" opening up every day, it's nice to know some people have been around a relatively long time.

Anonymous said...

It's cool that you want to support the long standing stores. I'm not as nice a person as you I guess. I'd rather buy cute scraps from a newer less established store than the fugly WAY overpriced things they sell at Scrap Girls.

Anonymous said...

2Peas? LOL

Anonymous said...

Oh and Mo Jackson? Not that you're allowed in or anything.

Anonymous said...

Because their country does seem more or less not as overzealous. Personal opinion is all. I've always thought their governing system works well. Again just personal opinion. It seems from afar that they're doin somethin right...but hey, grass is always greener. I'm comfy enough where I am.

Anonymous said...

Yes, Australia seems to have weathered the global economy crash better than some others. I would love to visit other countries but as the song goes "I still call Australia home". It's nice to travel but wonderful to come home too.

Anonymous said...

http://www.catscrap.com/shoppe/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=41

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Oh great another template designer for the masses to gush over.

Anonymous said...

http://www.catscrap.com/shoppe/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=41

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Oh great another template designer for the masses to gush over.

March 31, 2010 10:58 PM
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Bitter much?

Anonymous said...

Oh and Mo Jackson? Not that you're allowed in or anything.

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LOL

Anonymous said...

http://www.catscrap.com/shoppe/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=41

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Oh great another template designer for the masses to gush over.

March 31, 2010 10:58 PM
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Bitter much?

March 31, 2010 11:08 PM

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Moronic much?

Anonymous said...

Bitter much?
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What the hell is there to be bitter about? Apparently anyone can put out templates and call themselves a designer.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone buy from Scrap girls?

Anonymous said...

yes, designers for CU.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone noticed that Royanna is taking over DSW? What's up with that? Why would Cindy allow her to bring all this crap that no one wants in the first place? Are they BFF's or what? Are they planning on combining stores? Anyone have the scoop?

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to Annie Manning?

Anonymous said...

Has anyone noticed that Royanna is taking over DSW? What's up with that? Why would Cindy allow her to bring all this crap that no one wants in the first place? Are they BFF's or what? Are they planning on combining stores? Anyone have the scoop?

Does anyone really care? The store designers have no control who the store owner allows in the store. Maybe she isn't familiar with all the hoopla that is spewed over here because she doesn't come read the trash. You'd be surprised by how many reputable store owners think Royanna is just fine. I don't get it but then again I don't care and I don't see any of the designers jumping ship because she is selling there.

Anonymous said...

So now Mo is consignment?

Thinking about personal stores, did anyone notice TADA moved to Etsy to sell her designs? I don't understand why...maybe taxes work differently? I used to buy from her often but I never bought from Etsy prior, so unless I she really does something new and exciting or has some amazing sale, no plans to buy there...maybe a Lucky Dip would entice me...haven't browsed enough to see if her old products are all there...but without a way to sort things..it just makes it a hassle.

Anonymous said...

No, they aren't jumping ship, but DigiscrapVault has a whole lot more designers than they had before. Maybe the new people are looking at DSW and saying, no thanks!

Speaking of clogging up a store, I see Elegant WA by Bethany has a new store. [I think she has added Scrapbookgraphics, but maybe it's Scrap Orchard.] One thing I really, really hate as a customer is having to wade through her WA offerings on sale days. Or any days. I just give up and go to a different store.

If I were a designer at the new store, I would push the owner to have a maximum number of items, or something, to prevent 10 pages of sale items being overridden by 7 pages of WA by Bethany. Just sayin'

Anonymous said...

WTF is this Bethany word art crap at SBG? Maya has finally lost the plot hiring a typist to be a designer.

Anonymous said...

Annie Manning:

http://paintthemoon.net/
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About Bethany, I have never understood why people buy her stuff. I can type my own words much faster than I can download and unzip one of her files.

Anonymous said...

I'm not really a Bethany fan, but I feel the same about word art...however, it only takes browsing the gallery and seeing some disgusting fonts used, to know that people like Bethany are apparently necessary for some people...lol. And here I thought everyone just "understood" fonts. She uses many I wouldn't really touch because I'm no fan of the overswirled elegant swirly unreadable fonts, but, I do know many like those sort.

Anonymous said...

I'm confused. I looked up Bethany at SBG and she only has 8 items in the store. Why is everyone making a fuss about how many pages she takes up with her WA?

I WILL say, her baby names are WAY over-priced, especially since most people would only use 1 or 2 names from the list--unless you are "aquiverfull" of "momof9blessings" LOL.

Anonymous said...

^^^

correction: a quiverful OR momof9blessings

Anonymous said...

Trying to decide how I feel about the "new" FPD.

At first glance I wanted to role my eyes. Been there, bought them...but then...when I stopped affiliating them and just had a look at the new products I realized that maybe the stores they were at were maybe not giving them the right exposure. I have to wonder whether if they were at Scrap Orchard, they'd be bigger designers...because they are a really good mix of girls and make a good fit for the FPD name...all of them tending towards a more colorful scrap. I guess I'll wait and see...they may work well together as a group...

Anonymous said...

^^^meant roll not role^^^

Anonymous said...

Didn't Gotta Pixel start about the same time Scrap Artist did?

Anonymous said...

Totally unrelated topic here but I'm so baffled I just had to share. I'm watching the President speak right now about the health care bill. But I can't pay attention to what he says because of the dipshit kid over his right shoulder wearing a gray Eagles t-shirt is being a complete asshat by being completely distracted by his phone-toy-gadget.

What is wrong with people today? Not only is he priveleged by being able to attend this speech in the first place, he is placed almost directly behind Obama and his face is all over television. He's yawning, laughing, showing the people next to him whatever is on his phonetoygaget at the moment. He looks totally and completely bored and being totally disrespectful. I half-expect to see him pick his nose any minute.

Makes me want to puke. (I have NO intention of this turning into a stupid political debate. I'm just making an observation.)

K, back to your regularly scheduled blog and I do apologize.

Anonymous said...

Gotta Pixel as a site started around then, but their store didn't open until a couple of years ago. I don't know if we want to count them or not, especially since they don't have a enough of a history to know if the store will survive. (some designers have said Stacy Carlson is a Nazi in the way she runs the store...)

To the poster annoyed by the kid...parents are to blame as much as the kids are. We've let our kids become socially crippled with their cell phones and being so scared to actually discipline our kids.

Anonymous said...

My bad. I either posted this too early or too late. She had 30 pages at Scrap Orchard, now gone, and probably hasn't gotten them all up at SBG yet.

Just sayin if there are any SBG designers here, watch where your product placement falls on sales, new releases, or any time the customer is likely to shop the whole store -- not a direct link to your little shop within the store -- and see if you are not bumped back by B&W WA.

And speaking of WA: A commercial designer can never be as good as a scrapper (this assumes a certain level of competency of the scrapper) because they can't use the same quality of fonts we have access to because they have to use CU fonts.

And on some of the CU fonts, the kerning is just NOT THERE. This means the letter spacing comes out however it comes out, not how it looks best, or how it is supposed to be. Take a look at Vinnie Pierce's "Sisters" kit -- look at the WA in it and you'll see it says "Ssters".

http://www.twopeasinabucket.com/shop/vinnie-pearce/95432-digikit-my-sister-my-friend/?filters=vinnie-pearce%2Fdigital-kits

Anonymous said...

I agree that Bethany's word art is annoying. Mostly because I don't want to buy something I can type myself in 30 seconds. But also because her products overtake the other new designs on a weekly basis. I don't want to wade through it to find the cute stuff. If you shop at SBG, be prepared to have her words overwhelming the real products in the new release category in a very short time.

That Vinnie Pearce kit is actually pretty cute. But $8??? Really?? I would never pay $8 for that.

Anonymous said...

Would you if it weren't $8 but instead %7.99...?


Lol just curious. Doesn't always seem as bad imo when you say...hmmm 7.99...rather than O-M-G she wants $8?? Lol.

Anonymous said...

^^^

LMAO! No. LOL!

I'm thinking more like $5.99-ish. But who knows, maybe her stuff sells like hotcakes at $8. It looks pretty cute.

Anonymous said...

And as far as Ssters...yea...that "i" is alll squished in there...makes me go...helloooooo alt+arrow arrow!? Duhhhhh.

As far as that kid, I've looked at teens like that since I WAS a teen...I'm mid 20s myself...so...I'm right close to the gen...but both hubber and I have always dreamed of growing up in different times. So many (not to say ALL or MOST, but rather MANY) in this age group, are a bunch of disrespectful degenerates. I must admit I have an iPhone that I love, but if I were at an Obama speech I'd be 100% keyed in. Why even go if you're not there to listen?

Anonymous said...

To the poster annoyed by the kid...parents are to blame as much as the kids are.
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Exactly. One of the people he was showing something on his phone to (and this is the point where I realized what he was doing because his hands were mostly hidden by Obama) was an older woman right next to him. I could only assume she was his mother, although I hope that is not the case. She wasn't nearly as distracting or disrespectful but it's still pretty damn stupid to behave that way, especially when you're DIRECTLY behind the president. Did they not think they would be on national television? LOL

Anonymous said...

Thinking about personal stores, did anyone notice TADA moved to Etsy to sell her designs? I don't understand why...maybe taxes work differently?
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She's actually been at Etsy for almost a year. Did you see her sales? Over 5000. Sounds like Etsy is a good move to me.

Anonymous said...

WTF is this Bethany word art crap at SBG? Maya has finally lost the plot hiring a typist to be a designer.

True that. I lost a lot (more) of respect for SBG when 'Studio' Bethany opened there.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^

She must be making money though.

Anonymous said...

Yea. I knew she'd been there for a while (re:TADA) but hadn't realized it'd been nearer to a year. I just don't like how Etsy is setup. That does sound like pretty good sales for less than a year though. Hmmmmm. Nice.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^

She must be making money though.

April 1, 2010 9:39 PM

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No way to know for sure until you are in there. You have to see if your customers follow you, and if the store-based customers "take you on" and support you.
Only way to be able to guess is to see if she lasts at SBG or not.

Anonymous said...

That does sound like pretty good sales for less than a year though. Hmmmmm. Nice.

April 1, 2010 11:10 PM

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Not really. That's more like quarterly sales for a moderately successful designer. I would have thought Tracy Ann pulled in at least twice that per quarter.
Or maybe I'm more successful than I give myself credit for. Hmmmmmm. Nice.

Anonymous said...

^^^
But her 5000 sales, is that only 5000 dollars or 5000 items sold? Because if it's items sold, then her dollar sales would be at least triple that--most likely more based on the cost of a kit. If that's the case, then yeah, she's doing well at ETSY. If it's just $5000 she's making at Etsy, not so good if it's your only store. But, I'm pretty sure the customer base at Etsy is different from a scrapbook store. So, if she has another scrapbook store, she's killing 2 birds with one stone.

I've not looked into Etsy, so I'm no expert.

Anonymous said...

Biggest problem with Etsy for digital products is that there is no automatic delivery (or any way of integrating something like E-Junkie to do it), so you have to manually email each customer with a download link for what they bought. Which means every single day of the year, possibly several times a day, you have to be available and online, and cutting and pasting links into emails. Not worth the effort IMO.

Until and unless Etsy address that issue (and so make it feasible to sell digital stuff in any quantity) I doubt many digiscrap designers would consider it. I certainly wouldn't.

Anonymous said...

So stores will boot you designers out if you don't pull in the sales? Does every store do that?

If you are just taking up space, then the store has every right to make room for someone who will pull in sales. I don't think it has to be anything grand, but think about it: if you don't release anything new for MONTHS, customers forget about you and your sales plummet, the store still has bills to pay, and you're not contributing. Every store I know of takes a cut from designers to help cover server costs, etc. It's the price you pay for their advertising, customer base, etc. It's kind of rude to sit on your ass. If you only want to be in it for yourself, you are free to set up your own shop and take on all the hassles that go along with that.

Anonymous said...

Iwould have also...but then I considered it as over 5000 times rouchly5-8 dollars...then I divide that by about 8 months and that still brings in around what over 4000 a month roughly...maybe not as big as some designers but I know if I were making around 1000 a week I certainly wouldn't be losing sleep.

Anonymous said...

I've not looked into Etsy, so I'm no expert.

April 2, 2010 9:35 AM

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Me either, and you bring up an interesting point. I'm not sure if the 5,000 refers to sales dollars or pieces sold either.

Anonymous said...

I think "designers" should stop buying CU items, and start designing their own stuff. Which of the three kits would you buy? :)

http://scrapmatters.com/shop/product.php?productid=4175

http://stufftoscrap.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_16&products_id=1625


https://scraporchard.com/market/product.php?productid=20007&cat=0&page=1

Anonymous said...

Gotta Pixel as a site started around then, but their store didn't open until a couple of years ago. I don't know if we want to count them or not, especially since they don't have a enough of a history to know if the store will survive. (some designers have said Stacy Carlson is a Nazi in the way she runs the store...)

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"Nazi" is a little strong, but from what I've heard from a few people "power-hungry control freak" might be about right. Also heard that she badmouths former designers and CT who have left her site.

Anonymous said...

Is DAM even in business anymore? Are there any digi online magazines that actually manage to get their magazine out when promised?

Anonymous said...

"Nazi" is a little strong, but from what I've heard from a few people "power-hungry control freak" might be about right. Also heard that she badmouths former designers and CT who have left her site.

April 2, 2010 12:23 PM

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All true. She's a confrontational, overly-dramatic, micro-manager. She takes personal offense and gets pretty rude if you try to leave her store.

Anonymous said...

Concerning GP: I heard if you have something that hasn't sold any more items in 3 months, it has to come down. So, you pretty much have to take down your holiday stuff soon after the holiday because those sell so infrequently during the year. I understand wanting to keep things fresh, but I sell a lot of older items sporadically during the year.

Anonymous said...

Don't know the person you're talking about, but this is a classic case of caring too much (about the business which obviously is her baby) and her hurt feelings. You might want to cut her some slack.

Anonymous said...

Me either, and you bring up an interesting point. I'm not sure if the 5,000 refers to sales dollars or pieces sold either.

April 2, 2010 11:34 AM
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It's pieces. I said 5000 sales not $5,000 worth of sales.

Anonymous said...

I think "designers" should stop buying CU items, and start designing their own stuff. Which of the three kits would you buy? :)

http://scrapmatters.com/shop/product.php?productid=4175

http://stufftoscrap.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_16&products_id=1625


https://scraporchard.com/market/product.php?productid=20007&cat=0&page=1

April 2, 2010 12:10 PM
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I don't like any of them, but I prefer the SO one because it has original items in it. Faith True can draw.

The first two are so alike, it's not funny. I'm not sure why you included the SO one.

Anonymous said...

She must be making money though.

April 1, 2010 9:39 PM

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No way to know for sure until you are in there. You have to see if your customers follow you, and if the store-based customers "take you on" and support you.
Only way to be able to guess is to see if she lasts at SBG or not.

April 2, 2010 9:28 AM
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Actually, we do know for sure because Maya doesn't take on anyone who isn't making decent money. What she makes once she gets to SBG though is another matter.

Anonymous said...

To the poster who gave links to the superhero kits--thank! I'm going to pick up Faith's. My son dressed as batman for his entire 3 year old year. He's 18 now...About time I scrapped those photos, huh?

Between the other two, I would purchase Armina's. I know her quality is good. Don't know the other girl.

Anonymous said...

Not really. That's more like quarterly sales for a moderately successful designer. I would have thought Tracy Ann pulled in at least twice that per quarter.
Or maybe I'm more successful than I give myself credit for. Hmmmmmm. Nice.

April 2, 2010 9:30 AM

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I doubt even the most successful of designers would be selling 20,000 pieces per year. Where you confusing the 5000 with a dollar amount, rather than a piece amount?

Anonymous said...

I don't think a single designer at STS is capable of creating a kit without loads of recolored CU. If you feel particularly bored, you could look through the store, and see what I mean. My only guess as to why people spend money there is they are looking at quantity, not quality.

Anonymous said...

About etsy: Click the "5,000 sales" and you will have a list with all the products sold. Click on each product, and on top there will be three similar products (since they are digital designs, it's likely to have the same listing again and again: this way you can see the price). It's definitely 5,000 items, not $. And the most interesting part: you can see the feedback left by costumers.

I would never shop digiscrap designs from etsy: you have to wait to get the links, and I don't think there are any good sales or fwp items.

Anonymous said...

I'm so cheesed. I ignored a become a fan of request on FB, and now I have another one!!!

Anonymous said...

I would never shop digiscrap designs from etsy: you have to wait to get the links, and I don't think there are any good sales or fwp items.

April 3, 2010 2:15 AM

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I've shopped some knitting and crochet patterns which were a PDF file link, and I easily got all of them within 8 hours, if not less.

Anonymous said...

It's definitely 5,000 items, not $. And the most interesting part: you can see the feedback left by costumers.

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Of course it's items and not dollars. How can anyone be that dense and think it's dollars? Sorry, but really, logic and commonsense wold tell you it's items.

Anonymous said...

Is DAM even in business anymore? Are there any digi online magazines that actually manage to get their magazine out when promised?

April 2, 2010 4:00 PM
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Scrapping or non scrapping? Coz the non scrapping ones sure do manage to do so.

Anonymous said...

Of course it's items and not dollars. How can anyone be that dense and think it's dollars? Sorry, but really, logic and commonsense wold tell you it's items.

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There are some people here who tought it was dollars! It seems like one can't be a bitch and a smart person at the same time!

Anonymous said...

It's pieces. I said 5000 sales not $5,000 worth of sales.

April 2, 2010 7:11 PM

And that is also accumulated from January 2008 for TADA. 2 and a half years of selling. Supposing the average selling price was 6$, that would roughly give about 12K per year in sales. I would have thought she made at least twice that at a regular digi shop.

Anonymous said...

And on some of the CU fonts, the kerning is just NOT THERE. This means the letter spacing comes out however it comes out, not how it looks best, or how it is supposed to be. Take a look at Vinnie Pierce's "Sisters" kit -- look at the WA in it and you'll see it says "Ssters".
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What are you talking about? You can adjust the letter spacing on CU fonts the same way you can on PU fonts. The 'sisters' WA isn't the fault of the font, it's the fault of the designer for not taking the time to adjust it.

Anonymous said...

How many comments are on the "Blog spam" post? When I go to the first page it says there are 1882. When I go to the newest page there are only 1289 comments.
just wondering if it's a blogger glitch or am I missing some messages.

Anonymous said...

Is DAM even in business anymore? Are there any digi online magazines that actually manage to get their magazine out when promised?

April 2, 2010 4:00 PM
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Scrapping or non scrapping? The non scrapping ones sure do manage to do so.

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The Artisan Notebook doesn't seem to have any trouble getting their magazine out on the first of every month and they've been doing it for over three or four years I think.

Anonymous said...

Etsy is a lot of work. You can't just put your shop there and hope people find out about it. Vera Lim has been there since October 2009 and has made 25 sales.

Quite a lot of TADA items are custom - extended licenses and stuff. Which cost more than the price of a kit. I don't think she's going that badly :)

Anonymous said...

Just as predicted ...

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/home.php

If I was a designer who sold there, i'd be irritated.

Anonymous said...

Just as predicted ...

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/home.php

If I was a designer who sold there, i'd be irritated.

April 3, 2010 7:15 PM

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Remember when Trish Jones was there. She used to do the same thing. Some of the designers selling there now, where there then, they had their chance to complain.

Anonymous said...

And that is also accumulated from January 2008 for TADA.
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I've been a member of Etsy for a long time but have no shop as yet. When or if I set up shop, it will show my membership from the day I joined, not the day I set up the shop. So it's not an indicator at all.

Anonymous said...

Just as predicted ...

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/home.php

If I was a designer who sold there, i'd be irritated.
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Just curious, ARE you a designer there? If so shouldn't you be taking this to Maya instead of venting on an anonymous blog? Just sayin'.....

Anonymous said...

Original complainant here: It's more annoying for the customer than the designer; I wondered if the designers even noticed.

Anonymous said...

^^^^

I would have to agree. I don't sell there and it's annoying me, it's like spam and junk mail.

Anonymous said...

Just as predicted ...

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/home.php

If I was a designer who sold there, i'd be irritated.
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Just curious, ARE you a designer there? If so shouldn't you be taking this to Maya instead of venting on an anonymous blog? Just sayin'.....

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I'm not a designer at all ... I was just saying, if it's annoying to me as a customer, it's gotta be annoying to the designers who sell there, who's products I have to dig to find underneath all her word art crap.

Anonymous said...

She's released something twice!!!

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/product.php?productid=28037&cat=0&page=1

and

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/product.php?productid=27986&cat=0&page=5

Anonymous said...

She's released something twice!!!

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/product.php?productid=28037&cat=0&page=1

and

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/product.php?productid=27986&cat=0&page=5

Anonymous said...

Looks like she made a mistake and reuploaded 2009 calendar instead of 2010.

Anonymous said...

She's released something twice!!!
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whoopadeedoo!

Get excite over nothing much?

Anonymous said...

It's not exciting, no. But it goes to show that even the typist, er sorry, 'designer' is so bored looking at her acres of crap word 'art' that she doesn't even notice when she lists the same thing twice.

Anonymous said...

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/product.php?productid=28055&cat=0&page=1

This is copywrite infringement right?

And the pirated stuff was all things made by companies that might have trademark, copywrite whatever on them. The bought things were then scanned and extracted by the designers so in essence SG could have gone out and bought the same frame, flower and button from Michale's. That tag and paper looks very CU familiar.

Anonymous said...

^^^
what are you talking about? The link goes to Tangie's dictionary strips (not copyright infringement, btw, because of the age of the dictionary she scanned)

Are you the person that keeps posting about the WA? Because, dude, you need a life. It's starting to get a little weird.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the Easter Bunny bypassed her house and she's bored. LOL

Anonymous said...

This is copywrite infringement right?

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No. There's no such thing as copywrite

Anonymous said...

It's not exciting, no. But it goes to show that even the typist, er sorry, 'designer' is so bored looking at her acres of crap word 'art' that she doesn't even notice when she lists the same thing twice.

April 4, 2010 1:30 PM

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Exactly.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the Easter Bunny bypassed her house and she's bored. LOL

April 4, 2010 6:43 PM
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Whatever. I'm sorry that I didn't bitch about something, because that wouldn't be boring, would it?

Anonymous said...

She's released something twice!!!
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whoopadeedoo!

Get excite over nothing much?

April 4, 2010 10:54 AM
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I thought it was funny, not exciting.

You hang at this blog, no need to point fingers about getting excited over nothing. (what's with the much? What the heck does it mean? Some stupid teen saying, like BFF?)

Anonymous said...

Are you the person that keeps posting about the WA? Because, dude, you need a life. It's starting to get a little weird.

April 4, 2010 5:43 PM
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No, first time posting about the WA, dude. I do wish posters here would stop telling other posters to get a life, it's beyond ridiculous and hypocritical (and juvenile)

Anonymous said...

ugh. Is AfriDigiDiva still "designing"? She's been doing this for a couple of years and I think she's actually getting WORSE (if that was even possible!) I was just looking through the gallery at DST and came across this piece of crap. http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=64931

Anonymous said...

^^^^

Wow, that is REALLY bad. With that level of badness, I can't bring myself to feel scorn, so I'll have to go with pity. Notice how blurry it gets with the close up. Poor thing.

Anonymous said...

^^^^

I think the blurriness in close up is more to do with the flash animation than the product, but yeah, agree. It's something I may have been excited about five or six years ago, and even then, I'm not sure.

Anonymous said...

I knew I wasn't the only one who has seen Stacy being nasty to former team-members who leave the site, and bad-mouthing them.

And exactly why should I "cut her some slack" for being nasty and hurting people's reputations? I'm aware of at least one former GP designer who was badmouthed to another site owner.

She has no problem openly tarnishing people's names, whether it's a former GP team member, or a customer she suspects of piracy and calls them out publicly in a forum at DST. (DST removed the post) I don't tend to cut a lot of slack to someone like that.


And next topic: What happened to Studio Oh? Where is Randi Oh now, and why not at SBG anymore?

Anonymous said...

Randi is doing real life work--interior design, I believe. She's opening her own scrapbook store, but won't be spending as much time doing scrapbook design.

Anonymous said...

http://networkedblogs.com/p30626329

Google is your friend.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ugh. Is AfriDigiDiva still "designing"? She's been doing this for a couple of years and I think she's actually getting WORSE (if that was even possible!) I was just looking through the gallery at DST and came across this piece of crap. http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=64931

April 4, 2010 7:37 PM

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Her stuff was crap from the start. A pirate once - not sure if she still is or not. Never to be trusted IMO.

Anonymous said...

I need to go cut up an old dictionary, type some stupid sayings and words in crappy fonts and buy some shit at Michael's to scan, so I can be a designer. If anyone scans the same Michael's shit I do I'm saying you stole it just so you know. So back off aisle 4 it is mine all mine!

Anonymous said...

yeah, I heard the allegations of piracy against her, but never heard details. I can't understand how people like her are still designing...does anyone buy their crap? How can you do this for years, not making any money? It just doesn't make sense to me.

Butt ugly stuff like that just baffles me.

As far as Tangie scanning dictionaries, I appreciate scanned ephemera that comes from sources other than dover. I don't have a stash of vintage stuff to scan and use, so these work for me.

Anonymous said...

And next topic: What happened to Studio Oh? Where is Randi Oh now, and why not at SBG anymore?

April 4, 2010 8:15 PM

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Umm, don't know, don't care. I can't recall her stuff and just checked her blog and it's nothing worth talking about.

Anonymous said...

I need to go cut up an old dictionary, type some stupid sayings and words in crappy fonts and buy some shit at Michael's to scan,
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Just make sure of your grammar before your do.

Sheesh, why the fuck can't most people get to grips with apostrophes? There is no apostrophe in Michaels.

Anonymous said...

http://networkedblogs.com/p30626329

Google is your friend.

April 4, 2010 8:48 PM

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Agreed.

I've never understood how people can manage to log into a forum but can't manage to search for anything. The constant idiocy amazes me.

Anonymous said...

As far as Tangie scanning dictionaries, I appreciate scanned ephemera that comes from sources other than dover. I don't have a stash of vintage stuff to scan and use, so these work for me.

April 4, 2010 10:57 PM

ITA.

Anonymous said...

Scrap Outside the Box

Ok, so Scrap Artist, Designer Digitals, Scrap Girls, SBE, SBB, Digitals, and DSP. Any others? I can't believe I forgot Scrap Artist and Scrap Girls. They were the first 2 shops I bought from. Designer Digitals was the 3rd.

I think 3 Scrapateers has been along that long too. Are they still around?

And before someone says, "Who cares" I'll say that I do. If they've been around that long, I'm thinking they aren't going to run away with my money or support pirates. Plus, with all the new "shops" opening up every day, it's nice to know some people have been around a relatively long time.

March 31, 2010 6:55 PM

Anonymous said...

Agreed! I was a template designer for nearly 5 years and now I sit back to see so many copies.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bitter much?
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What the hell is there to be bitter about? Apparently anyone can put out templates and call themselves a designer.

March 31, 2010 11:24 PM

Anonymous said...

Scrap Outside the Box is closed. They closed several months ago.

Anonymous said...

anyone know if cu styles were used to create the hearts? I've been looking for some type of similar style but haven't been able to nail it down. Yah, I could ask at DST but would I get an answer? no one seems to be hanging there much anymore.

http://shop.scrapbookgraphics.com/product.php?productid=26353&cat=0&page=2

Anonymous said...

I *think* the hearts are made with Alien Skin (Impact: Glass I think).

Anonymous said...

ahhh yes you could be right, thx. Wanted to create a shiny element for my page but that's a little outta my price range, LOL! looks like a pretty nifty filter pack though, now I see what alot of designers are using for their chrome. Awesome.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^

Very likely to be Alien Skin as it's a kit by Flergs. I know she uses it.

It's not that hard to reproduce the effect yourself if you use Photoshop. Alien Skin has never impressed me.

Anonymous said...

New pirate. Rustic Charms Creations. She got busted and now she's not in her store anymore. Of course since she is the owner of the store, it doesn't mean much. She's still collexcting money from her designers. I hope some of those designers read this blog.

Anonymous said...

where's the story, link us up ...

Anonymous said...

just another "designer" putting someone else's designs in her kits. Her Facebook fan page is gone now, she's out of her store, but not banned from DST. of course.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^

New owners. They may not know the 'procedure'. Why not inform them if you are so concerned with banning her.

Anonymous said...

Sheesh, why the fuck can't most people get to grips with apostrophes? There is no apostrophe in Michaels.

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I tend to use an apostrophe for ownership. So if it is Michaels' crap where the s is part of Michael then there is an apostrophe on the end. If the s is not part of the name then it is Michael's crap. Either way it is still crap that someone scanned, calling piracy over something they in essence pirated.


the 's <3er

Nic said...

suck my dick bitches

Anonymous said...

Hey Everybody Somebody by the name of MOMMASON from www.imdb.com started a game where she wants us to come bash you coz she thinks you are all hags lol


this is the link where she announced it
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000003/flat/160451931

and this is her IMDB account incase you want to stalk her

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur5089143/boards/profile/

Nic said...

i wanna fuck a bitch up with my 222 incher

Anonymous said...

Hey Everybody Somebody by the name of MOMMASON from www.imdb.com started a game where she wants us to come bash you coz she thinks you are all hags lol


this is the link where she announced it
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000003/flat/160451931

and this is her IMDB account incase you want to stalk her

http://www.imdb.com/user/ur5089143/boards/profile/

Nic said...

yeah u losers have to use annoymus names cause you nto fucking scared to be real

Anonymous said...

ahhh. looks like the pirate got a whiff of the blog posting. nice.

Anonymous said...

Who the hell is Mommason? I don't think I can recall ever having even heard of her/him before.

Anonymous said...

What an idiot she is. She's dissing the posters her for dissing others yet she is dissing the dissers for dissing. LOL What a stupid, hypocritical, brainless dummy she is.

Anonymous said...

interesting. why did the comments about Rustic Charms Creations get deleted? Are we no longer outing pirates here? After all, it all started at DST...

Anonymous said...

Hollie, you were given some very good advice - step away and it'd all blow over. You just couldn't do it, could you? Nearly everyone here forgot who you were. Now you have stirred the hornets nest. You have proven to be nothing but a troll...to be brought up whenever the dredges of digi scrapping are brought up, like Amanda Dykan, Joedee, etc. What an idiot.

Anonymous said...

my bad. blogger just glitched seriously. nothing was deleted. unfortunately, the spammers' comments are still here as well. I hope they enjoy themselves. Welcome, losers.

Anonymous said...

Where are details on the Rustic Charm creations stuff?

And why did someone bring up Hollie?

Anonymous said...

LOL! at this Afridigidiva product: http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=14033&limit=views

Start scrapping those divorces and domestic fights.

Anonymous said...

^^^^^

*shakes head* There's just no accounting for some people's taste...

Anonymous said...

her stuff is just U*G*L*Y!! As for the pirate, she put other people's designs in her kits. I guess she figured no one shops at her store anyway, so no one would ever find out!

Anonymous said...

You mean "TheMommason?"

Anonymous said...

Here ya go: http://digitalscrapcafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=17688#post17688

talk amongst yourselves. LOL!

Anonymous said...

Here ya go: http://digitalscrapcafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=17688#post17688

talk amongst yourselves. LOL!
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Thanks for the link. In the case of the train set templates I don't know that you can really call that "piracy". It's just shapes put together and frankly anyone can do that. Did she copy the idea? Maybe so, but then all ideas are copied at some point or another.

The ribbon hangers on the other hand, well that looks pretty clear cut to me.

Another store bites the dust!

Anonymous said...

UGH and she was one that wanted to know about another pirate so she could 'watch out for her' as she was holding a designer call. Seriously. How could she think she wasn't going to get caught?

Anonymous said...

interesting. why did the comments about Rustic Charms Creations get deleted? Are we no longer outing pirates here? After all, it all started at DST...

April 5, 2010 9:16 PM
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Nobody deleted them here. They are still there.

Anonymous said...

tend to use an apostrophe for ownership. So if it is Michaels' crap where the s is part of Michael then there is an apostrophe on the end. If the s is not part of the name then it is Michael's crap. Either way it is still crap that someone scanned, calling piracy over something they in essence pirated.

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So do I but Michaels has an s in it, so it should be Michaels'. Fair call on the pirate calling piracy.

Anonymous said...

LOL! at this Afridigidiva product: http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=14033&limit=views

Start scrapping those divorces and domestic fights.

April 5, 2010 10:18 PM
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You're an idiot. That item was uploaded in 2007 and why should it only relate to divorce and domestic fights?

I don't like her style or product, but you are just an idiot.

Anonymous said...

Seriously. How could she think she wasn't going to get caught?

April 6, 2010 12:35 AM
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Because so many don't.

Anonymous said...

You guys need to quit hanging on to DST to do anything. Shannon said, long ago, that DST is not the digi-police and they would not ban anyone unless serious allegations were proved, and that the owner of said product being pirated brought it to DST, and even then, at their discretion would they do something about it. DST is not the be-all-and-end-all of the digi world, and I don't get why some of you still hang on to them to do anything about any of it. And now with the new owners, I doubt they're going to want to jump into that kind of hassle at all.

SSD did it right. Once all proof has been collected and all avenues exhausted..out them in your own forum, and leave it at that. Can't do much more.

Anonymous said...

I'm a little confused by the allegations that Rustic Charms is a pirate in that thread.

It looks to me like all the items she used were CU items. She used them to create derivative works.

It seems to me that this is probably a TOU violation because she's offering the items as CU. But, that she would be fine offering the products for sale for personal use.

Is it possible that she just doesn't understand the TOU for CU verses CU4CU?

Anonymous said...

Continuing from above post....

I just looked again and I was referring to the ribbon hangers. She used 3 CU products to create derivative works (combining and small modifications) and is offering them as a CU product. As I said, I don't really think this is pirating since she used CU products...perhaps just a TOU violation because the may not be allowed to create CU products.

In looking at the trains, she may be a 'copycat', but she didn't do anything illegal. The trains are not exactly the same so she didn't actually copy (duplicate) the files themselves. She may have copied the ideas, but shapes themselves are not protected. Any designer could use basic shapes to create a train. And the trains themselves have many differences (number of windows, shapes of windows,connectors etc).

As I said, she may be a 'copycat', but that's not the same thing as a pirate. And the other products were CU products.

Anonymous said...

Assuming she bought the CU products in the first place, you're right, it's not 'pirating'. Was it ever explicitly said whether the items were purchased and then used outside their TOU (ie as CU4CU) or whether it's actually a case of theft (ie products not paid for)? I am inclined to suppose that they weren't paid for, else why would the 'pirate' have said she created them herself rather than say 'I bought them'?

Anonymous said...

Assuming she bought the CU products in the first place, you're right, it's not 'pirating'. Was it ever explicitly said whether the items were purchased and then used outside their TOU (ie as CU4CU) or whether it's actually a case of theft (ie products not paid for)? I am inclined to suppose that they weren't paid for, else why would the 'pirate' have said she created them herself rather than say 'I bought them'?
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I didn't see any mention of whether the CU products were bought or stolen. But, I saw 'Disasterpiece' complaining that she 'stole' a CU Freebie. How do you do that? Does that mean that everyone who downloaded and used the CU freebie stole it? I'm just confused by all of this. If you offer a Freebie CU product, then how is it supposed to be used? Is the problem that she created a CU product instead of a PU product? I can't help but feel sorry for her because all the designers are calling her a pirate for using CU products.

If it's simply that she MIS-USED the items then that seems a little different and I think they are over-reacting. If she actually stole the items, then that truly is illegal and pirating.

Anonymous said...

For those that asked about Mommason: She posted a bunch of nasty, idiotic comments in the 'Crediting' thread about a month ago. She continued to refer to designers as 'Extractor/colorists' (implying that any Designer who used CU items or extractions weren't REAL designers). And she hated on 'hummie' for reasons I never fully understood.

Anyway...when people started trashing her on this blog, she became very upset. So, I guess this is her lame attempt to get revenge.

It's humorous that she says WE are the losers for talking on this blog....and then she tries to start a game to get non-scrappers to bash us? That's sub-loser!

Worse yet, do the non-scrappers think they are going to get a 'rise' out of us for talking about how big their dicks are? (Hello Rowe$ha) Obviously they aren't digi-scrappers if they think sex talk is going to get us all worked up! LOL!

Anonymous said...

I believe with RCC it is more a case of her being a copycat, violating TOU with the CU items and panicking at first confrontation. I have knowledge of her and find it hard to believe that she would actually steal something. I think she is more a chocolate chip short of a cookie than anything else. Although it is painfully obvious to the rest of us, I don't believe she realized she was doing anything wrong at first glance. Hopefully others will learn from her mistakes and pay closer attention to what they are doing. Her actions and words are still, inexcusable.

Anonymous said...

oh please. She was a store owner. She knows the rules. And if she's too stupid to read a CU TOU, then she's too stupid to own a store.

I hope you're not a designer, because when you defend someone who acts illegally, you tarnish yourself and all other designers.

In case you didn't bother to read the post at Digital Scrap Cafe, she ADMITTED she was wrong! She didn't make a "mistake", she's just sorry she got caught.

Anonymous said...

She was an inexperienced store owner and designer.

Anonymous said...

BS. She went into damage control as soon as she was caught out. She lied and said she made them herself. Then she admitted wrong doing and offered a bribe. She knew exactly what she was doing but didn't figure on getting caught out because she owned/sold at a relatively unknown store. I hope it was worth it for her.

Anonymous said...

^^^
I'm not a designer. I'm just a scrapper and I'm seriously confused by all of this. I'm not sure if I agree that she's a pirate. Piracy is the unauthorized downloading and distribution of something. So, unless she actually stole those CU items without paying for them, then she's not a pirate.

Copying someone's idea is not piracy, as in the train shapes.

So, will someone explain what she actually did that was actually 'illegal'?

1. Did you copy an idea? Yes the trains were very close, but not exact duplicates. So she's a 'copycat', but that's not illegal

2. Did she actually commit theft as in taking products without paying for them? Please don't use the word 'steal' as in 'stealing' someone's ideas. Yes or no?

3. Is the problem that she used CU products to create CU products? Is that the only thing she did wrong? Then wouldn't this be more of a TOU violation than a criminal act?

The OP at the DST thread entitled her post 'Piracy!" and stated: "I just caught someone passing off my designs as their own". I assume she is referring to the trains. But that really ISN'T piracy. She's just pissed cause another designer created a train set with similar shapes. Perhaps not very nice and not very professional, but it isn't illegal. You could find many examples of templates and products in digi-stores that are very similar.

Anonymous said...

I am not defending. Just saying "Pirate" is a little strong of a word for the situation. 100% wrong, YES.

Anonymous said...

In case you didn't bother to read the post at Digital Scrap Cafe, she ADMITTED she was wrong! She didn't make a "mistake", she's just sorry she got caught.
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That post just contains snippets of the conversation, not the whole thing, so who knows what she was referring to when she said she knew she was wrong. Perhaps she means that it was wrong (against the TOU) to use them for CU products.

I don't know any of the people involved, but there have been several people who know her who said they don't thing she would commit theft.

Anonymous said...

oh please. She was a store owner. She knows the rules. And if she's too stupid to read a CU TOU, then she's too stupid to own a store.

I hope you're not a designer, because when you defend someone who acts illegally, you tarnish yourself and all other designers.

In case you didn't bother to read the post at Digital Scrap Cafe, she ADMITTED she was wrong! She didn't make a "mistake", she's just sorry she got caught.
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So are you confirming that the only thing she did wrong was to use CU products in a manner that violates their TOUs?

And you guys are ready to call her a pirate and ruin someone's reputation over a TOU violation? You should be ashamed.

Anonymous said...

Can anyone PROVE that she is a pirate? In other words, can anyone prove that she committed theft (downloading items without paying for them)?

The supposed 'proof' just shows the following:

A. she created a Train template set with shapes very similar to another designers products. But, you can tell by looking at all the little details that they were not produced from the same digital files (meaning she didn't actually digitally copy them)

B. She used CU products to create CU products which is a TOU violation.

Neither of the above acts are piracy. So to call her a pirate is incorrect.

The only way to PROVE piracy is to prove that she acquired those CU items without paying for them.

Anonymous said...

prove?!?!?
she admitted and tried to bribe the store owner!! then cussed her out for being righteous and honest!

or maybe since we see she is a lying thief, we shouldn't believe her confession??? ha ha ha....after all she lied before??

Anonymous said...

prove?!?!?
she admitted and tried to bribe the store owner!! then cussed her out for being righteous and honest!

or maybe since we see she is a lying thief, we shouldn't believe her confession??? ha ha ha....after all she lied before??
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That's not what I read in that post. She admitted she was wrong about SOMETHING...but it could be anything such as violating TOUs.

As far as Bribes...not sure about that either. She could have just been trying to make things right by offering to compensate the designers for using the CU products for CU.

People often see what they want to see. The 'evidence' presented in that thread is scant.

You guys are pathetic. As I mentioned, I don't personally know of any of you. But I am reading this part:

"She obviously feels no remorse -- "Well I just solved the problem I closed my personal store. Ill just Run my big store and no longer design this way theres no issues and Its done. So no more worrying for you and everyone can just move on With there lives!""

How do YOU know that she feels no remorse? That's just your opinion. She basically is stating that she will close her personal store and stop designing. That she will remove her items and just run her store. What more do you want from her?

You all are pathetic. What a bunch of pathetic designers we have in this industry

Anonymous said...

Changing the subject a little bit: I hate it when designer present their new kit this way: "Look what my CT did with this awesome kit". Hello, you designed it, let someone else tell that it is indeed awesome. Jesus! And then she has something like 10 freebie QPs. Why should anyone bother buying? I'll use the QPs and save my money for something more eclectic.

Anonymous said...

@ April 6, 2010 12:02 PM

I don't think you will ever get an answer on this. Since the designers claim to sell many many many items, it'll be hard for them to find those invoices among milions of files!

Anonymous said...

Can a designer answer that to me: is designing scrap kit a well paid job? Is it worth your time? Wouldn't it be better to have a real job?

Anonymous said...

or maybe since we see she is a lying thief, we shouldn't believe her confession??? ha ha ha....after all she lied before??
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I didn't see a confession. I saw that she was sorry about something and that she agrees she was wrong - ABOUT SOMETHING.

Still waiting to hear whether the CU items were bought or stolen....

Anonymous said...

@ April 6, 2010 12:02 PM

I don't think you will ever get an answer on this. Since the designers claim to sell many many many items, it'll be hard for them to find those invoices among milions of files!
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Well...unless they can prove that she committed THEFT on those CU files, then they need to apologize to the designer and to the public for calling her a 'pirate'.

Anonymous said...

And you guys are ready to call her a pirate and ruin someone's reputation over a TOU violation? You should be ashamed.

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This is exactly what worries me with the new group that is starting up at DST
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/seal-approval-against-pirates-etc-rant-236144/.

That group could easily turn into a witch hunting mob. Women can become snarky, jealous, bitches and turn on each other at the drop of a hat - I know that being a snarky, jealous bitch myself on a few occassions, lol. What's to stop the pirate police from making a mistake and ruining someone's reputation??

Anonymous said...

No... the other store called her out as a pirate. We went on a fact finding mission and decided it was a TOU violation.

LOL

Anonymous said...

A. she created a Train template set with shapes very similar to another designers products. But, you can tell by looking at all the little details that they were not produced from the same digital files (meaning she didn't actually digitally copy them)

The person calling piracy said this in her post though...

"She didn't even bother to rename the photoshop layer names and they are some how the EXACT same size (including some small "marks" that show they are ours)."

Doesn't this prove that the "pirate" didn't create the shapes herself? If there are marks on the layers that show where they came from, doesn't that prove that they were not just similar shapes? Or are you saying that the designs can't be stolen because they're just shapes to begin with? I'm sorry, I'm confused about this whole train thing.

Anonymous said...

For the person who keeps saying that she is not a "pirate", that she only violated a TOU...So, does that mean that the "designer" who took items DIRECTLY from the Sweet Shoppe designers' kits and put them in her own kits, merely violated their TOU? Because that is EXACTLY what this person did. She took someone else's designs, put them into her set, and sold them AS HER OWN. Did she steal the designs? It doesn't sound like it. But just because you buy something doesn't mean that you can do anything you want with it.

Stop trying to defend her. She was wrong. And don't give me that "inexperienced new store owner" crap. If you open a store, you are 100% responsible for everything that goes into it. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the oven.

Anonymous said...

^^^
if she labeled the cu items as pu, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Anonymous said...

^^^
so that makes what she did OK? Not sure of your point.

Also, about the train, from what the thread says, she took the original train files and modified them and resold them as her own--not even bothering to rename the files.

That is redistribution of the original files. Piracy and unauthorized TOU.

Anonymous said...

The person calling piracy said this in her post though...

"She didn't even bother to rename the photoshop layer names and they are some how the EXACT same size (including some small "marks" that show they are ours)."

Doesn't this prove that the "pirate" didn't create the shapes herself? If there are marks on the layers that show where they came from, doesn't that prove that they were not just similar shapes? Or are you saying that the designs can't be stolen because they're just shapes to begin with? I'm sorry, I'm confused about this whole train thing.
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Where was that statement posted? I didn't see the sentence about "marks" in either the DST thread or the Digital Scrap Cafe thread. If indeed the shapes were digitally copied and turned into something else, then this is more serious than just being a copycat.

Anonymous said...

For the person who keeps saying that she is not a "pirate", that she only violated a TOU...So, does that mean that the "designer" who took items DIRECTLY from the Sweet Shoppe designers' kits and put them in her own kits, merely violated their TOU? Because that is EXACTLY what this person did. She took someone else's designs, put them into her set, and sold them AS HER OWN. Did she steal the designs? It doesn't sound like it. But just because you buy something doesn't mean that you can do anything you want with it.
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The difference is that the SSD elements were PU items and were not to be used for commercial use. In this case, the items in question were BEING SOLD AS CU ITMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They were being sold with the understanding that they could be used to create digital scrap items for sale!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey idiot. BOTH USES ARE WRONG!!! Just because you purchase a CU item, does not mean you can redistribute as a CU item. Doesn't matter how many exclamation marks you use, she is wrong. Both instances are completely WRONG. Don't try to justify it.

Anonymous said...

Exact quote from the Digital Scrap Kit thread: I personally purchased the train templates to compare them, and they are in fact the exact same ones. Others have also purchased both sets to compare. She didn't even bother to rename the photoshop layer names and they are some how the EXACT same size (including some small "marks" that show they are ours). She did make small changes, such as changing out a few shapes, shrinking a few things, etc....

Anonymous said...

so that makes what she did OK? Not sure of your point.

Also, about the train, from what the thread says, she took the original train files and modified them and resold them as her own--not even bothering to rename the files.

That is redistribution of the original files. Piracy and unauthorized TOU.
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Point 1: Yes exactly. Had the RCD designs been sold as PU, then it would have been perfectly FINE because the elements in question were all being sold as CU products. That is the point of CU products...you use them to create derivative works and can offer them for sale.

Point 2: There was nothing about the file layer names or "marks" not being changed in the thread referred to here. Maybe it was from a previous conversation.

Anonymous said...

Where was that statement posted? I didn't see the sentence about "marks" in either the DST thread or the Digital Scrap Cafe thread. If indeed the shapes were digitally copied and turned into something else, then this is more serious than just being a copycat.

It was in the first post in this thread...

http://digitalscrapcafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=17688#post17688

Paragraph 3, it's pretty obvious.

Anonymous said...

Exact quote from the Digital Scrap Kit thread: I personally purchased the train templates to compare them, and they are in fact the exact same ones. Others have also purchased both sets to compare. She didn't even bother to rename the photoshop layer names and they are some how the EXACT same size (including some small "marks" that show they are ours). She did make small changes, such as changing out a few shapes, shrinking a few things, etc...
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I've read all the threads linked from this blog and have never seen this information. Not sure what thread this was in...

Anonymous said...

Where was that statement posted? I didn't see the sentence about "marks" in either the DST thread or the Digital Scrap Cafe thread. If indeed the shapes were digitally copied and turned into something else, then this is more serious than just being a copycat.

It was in the first post in this thread...

http://digitalscrapcafe.com/forum/showthread.php?p=17688#post17688

Paragraph 3, it's pretty obvious.
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OMG - that post has been edited to add that 3rd paragraph...I know because I still have the old version opened from last night and that paragraph isn't there!!!! I better go take a screen print of it.

Talk about changing history...sheesh!

So...smartass...it isn't pretty obvious. The CYA information was added to that thread after I read it.

Anonymous said...

not changing history...just adding more information on her illegal behavior. Still can't believe you're defending her. You'll probably want to contact Barb Speck and ask her how she dealt with the shame and embarrassment when she continued to defend Tandika Starr--then got burned by her in the end. You're defending a loser and thief. Get over her already.

Anonymous said...

The person calling piracy said this in her post though...

"She didn't even bother to rename the photoshop layer names and they are some how the EXACT same size (including some small "marks" that show they are ours)."

Doesn't this prove that the "pirate" didn't create the shapes herself? If there are marks on the layers that show where they came from, doesn't that prove that they were not just similar shapes? Or are you saying that the designs can't be stolen because they're just shapes to begin with? I'm sorry, I'm confused about this whole train thing.
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Given that the above quoted paragraph was added to the thread as an edit...not sure I even believe it.

But all of my statements were based on reading the thread as it was written this morning, and it did NOT contain that paragraph.

Anonymous said...

not changing history...just adding more information on her illegal behavior. Still can't believe you're defending her. You'll probably want to contact Barb Speck and ask her how she dealt with the shame and embarrassment when she continued to defend Tandika Starr--then got burned by her in the end. You're defending a loser and thief. Get over her already.
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I don't even know her....so I'm not defending her based on anything except the evidence that has been presented to the public. And it didn't say anything about digital "marks" or psd layer names until later today.

If she did indeed duplicate digital files on that train set, then I agree that's piracy. But I'd love to see the actual evidence.

Anonymous said...

You know this whole conversation makes me leery of that 'Seal of Approval' group. It might be a good idea, but I can foresee lots of issues.

Anyone that has been around knows that there have been many accusations of 'copying' over the years. Some people use the terms 'copying' and 'pirating' to mean copying one's ideas or making a product that's too similar to someone else's idea.

The example that comes to mind is Faith True. She was accused multiple times, but there was never any real evidence that she did anything wrong or illegal. She just pissed off some designers who thought her products were too close in concept to other products. I like Faith's items and I'm glad that she survived the accusations without a ruined reputation. On the other hand, there are others that have been the target of accusations and their reputations and careers have been ruined.

If they try to start any kind of Seal of Approval group, then they need to be very specific on how to use terms such as copyright, piracy, copying, attribution, terms of use etc. There's a lot of confusion and there's no standards when it comes to TOU and how people use these terms. And there haven't been any actual court cases regarding digital scrapbooking that I'm aware of.

Anonymous said...

Can a designer answer that to me: is designing scrap kit a well paid job? Is it worth your time? Wouldn't it be better to have a real job?

I can't speak for other designers but for me, it's totally NOT a well paying job but - I'm home anyway, I'm not getting a paying job anytime soon so this is a way to earn a little extra money for me.

Anonymous said...

it isn't CYA it is answering yours and others inane questions on how they know it is piracy! they put it out there and figured that was enough, but still..no it is now made up...someone who has no background of theft.
Yet rustic charms has allegations prior...but you refuse to see the issue.
Fine-we were all wrong, her computer went of fritz and she doesn't have the proof she extracted...just the actual items she is reselling that are exactly like the ones from digicafe..down to the lighting and everything
they probably both had the same revelation to take the pics of items and anyways, those items are probably owned by someone else...and it was one huge coincidence. yep, you are right!
see here is the apology in print in a smack blog!!
She closed her shop and cussed out the owners to digicafe because of the severe persecution of the digital community and is probably off feeding the homeless or about to be sainted.

but my money is like the other bad eggs, she will be back because there is a sucker born everyday.
Happy Birthday Sucker!

Anonymous said...

You know this whole conversation makes me leery of that 'Seal of Approval' group. It might be a good idea, but I can foresee lots of issues.

Anyone that has been around knows that there have been many accusations of 'copying' over the years. Some people use the terms 'copying' and 'pirating' to mean copying one's ideas or making a product that's too similar to someone else's idea.

The example that comes to mind is Faith True. She was accused multiple times, but there was never any real evidence that she did anything wrong or illegal. She just pissed off some designers who thought her products were too close in concept to other products. I like Faith's items and I'm glad that she survived the accusations without a ruined reputation. On the other hand, there are others that have been the target of accusations and their reputations and careers have been ruined.

If they try to start any kind of Seal of Approval group, then they need to be very specific on how to use terms such as copyright, piracy, copying, attribution, terms of use etc. There's a lot of confusion and there's no standards when it comes to TOU and how people use these terms. And there haven't been any actual court cases regarding digital scrapbooking that I'm aware of.
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I personally wouldn't get anywhere near a group like this. I'm sure they mean well but when you start giving people authority to hand out "seals of approval" and labeling others as pirates, thieves, copyright violators, etc. you are just asking for trouble. It brings out all the control maniacs and vindictive people who might have an axe to grind against somebody else. No thanks!

Anonymous said...

I am a designer, never copied/pirated/inspired/ignored-TOU, but no way will I join the Seal of Approval group. I agree that sometimes designers are pissy little people. I remember the Faith True fiasco--can't remember the designer in question--but she accused Faith of stalking her and putting out identical kits after she put out hers. It caused all kinds of meanness and vindictiveness, and yes, luckily, Faith survived it. (I like Faith too).

There are too many instances of designs being released at the same time that look the same but are completely uninspired by each other. However, with this group, you could put out your design a day after someone else and even though you've been working on it for a month, you'd get accused of copying. And yes, your reputation would be ruined, especially if you're not one of the big names.

Flergs could put something out identical to someone else and never get accused of copying (and rightly so) but someone who is not as well-known would get accused of copying (even if she is completely innocent.)

Nope, no way in H3LL I'm joining that group. They can stick that seal of approval on my butt.

Anonymous said...

I am a designer, never copied/pirated/inspired/ignored-TOU, but no way will I join the Seal of Approval group. I agree that sometimes designers are pissy little people. I remember the Faith True fiasco--can't remember the designer in question--but she accused Faith of stalking her and putting out identical kits after she put out hers. It caused all kinds of meanness and vindictiveness, and yes, luckily, Faith survived it. (I like Faith too).

There are too many instances of designs being released at the same time that look the same but are completely uninspired by each other. However, with this group, you could put out your design a day after someone else and even though you've been working on it for a month, you'd get accused of copying. And yes, your reputation would be ruined, especially if you're not one of the big names.

Flergs could put something out identical to someone else and never get accused of copying (and rightly so) but someone who is not as well-known would get accused of copying (even if she is completely innocent.)

Nope, no way in H3LL I'm joining that group. They can stick that seal of approval on my butt.

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ITA! Groups like this will create nothing but drama, false accusations and continue to create an atmosphere of distrust and cliques. NO THANKS!

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