I always find it interesting to note which topics of conversation generate the blog spam. There are some regulars around digi land that are frequently mentioned here. I think they have given up the battle. They know eventually the topic will turn and it will be on to something else. Admittedly, I am not active around the "community" but I have been hosting the blog for awhile now and have noticed some trends.
Watch out when the blog bitches find a new target. They keep picking, they Google, they dig, they hunt IP's, they search other message boards, they jump in the way back machine and remind all of indiscretions of yesteryear.
The blog target virgins pick up the bat phone. Put out a virtual call for back up send the blog link to all. Their friends will try to defend, try to call everyone out for being anonymous. It gets nasty. They can't win against the blog bitches. So then they try diversionary tactics, attempt to change the subject to some other digi crime in recent memory. When that doesn't work, they resort to spam. Song lyrics, in multiple languages, middle school trash talk. Anything to bury the previous threads of conversation.
And don't forget about the Pearl clutching handslappers. You know, the ones that just want everyone to get along and sing Kum Bay Yah. The ones that scold people for posting, and wasting their time reading this internet trash, all while offering helpful alternate suggestions for spending time. You know, like watching kids, cooking dinner for your husband, reading the bible.
And the Lurkers, that stop by for entertainment value.
Which category are you?
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«Oldest ‹Older 1401 – 1552 of 1552Can a designer answer that to me: is designing scrap kit a well paid job? Is it worth your time? Wouldn't it be better to have a real job?
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First of all, if you're doing something, anything, that pulls in money that helps sustain your home, how is that not a "real" job?
Second, I have a primary source of income that, I suppose, you would label a "real" job, so my designing is something I do for extra cash and don't spend more than 10-15 hours a week on. If I spent more time, I could make more money but for the time I spend now pulls in about $400-$500 extra a month for me, so yeah, it's certainly worth it.
If I spent 40+ and made $2k or more a month, would it then qualify as a "real" job?
And you guys are ready to call her a pirate and ruin someone's reputation over a TOU violation? You should be ashamed.
April 6, 2010 11:19 AM
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We should be ashamed? We didn't call her a pirate, Digi Scrap Cafe did. They should be ashamed. Why not take it up over there? Oh right, because that would mean using your name.
And you guys are ready to call her a pirate and ruin someone's reputation over a TOU violation? You should be ashamed.
April 6, 2010 11:19 AM
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We should be ashamed? We didn't call her a pirate, Digi Scrap Cafe did. They should be ashamed. Why not take it up over there? Oh right, because that would mean using your name.
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I am a designer. If I used these CU products the same way RCC did, I would expect people to call me a pirate. I would be a pirate for violating the terms of use that way. She is not a victim, neither is anyone falsely accusing her of something she didn't do. You are both complete idiots.
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No, you are an idiot. I never said she wasn't one, I just said don't blame the blog for calling her out in the first place, it's not our shame.
She is not a victim, neither is anyone falsely accusing her of something she didn't do. You are both complete idiots.
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I haven't seen any concrete proof yet. It's all very circumstantial. So, you are the idiot for just taking it all at face value.
I think a few people here need to learn the true definition of PIRATE and COPYCAT.
PIRATING - someone buys a kit and shares it with those who haven't paid for it. The person sharing the kit is a PIRATE. The people downloading the kit are PIRATES/THIEVES. People who attain a kit via pirating and then go on to share the file with even more people are still PIRATES/THIEVES.
A "designer" who knowingly uses PITATED items in her own kits to sell is a PIRATE/THIEF.
A designer who perhaps has access to a whole store and helps herself to other designers items without permission or payment is a THIEF.
Using the said items in a kit to sell is THEFT.
Buying a CU set of templates and altering them only slightly but using the SAME EXACT files is COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.
Out and out COPYING another designers work - even though perhaps making the template shapes themselves - While not theft, is COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT/UNETHICAL.
If the original CU train templates in question were NEVER PURCHASED by the alleged copycat then she could only have them via 3 means. 1. She got them from a pirate. 2. She had access to the store and helped herself. 3. The original designer gave them to her.
None of the above apply. Just the fact that there is no record of her ever having purchased the templates in the first place puts the pirate/thief/copyright infringment tag on her.
The only aother alternative is that she saved the store preview of the templates and used it as a "guide" to make her "own". This would still be COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT/COPYING.
How anyone can defend her is beyond me.
The only aother alternative is that she saved the store preview of the templates and used it as a "guide" to make her "own". This would still be COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT/COPYING.
How anyone can defend her is beyond me.
April 6, 2010 7:16 PM
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Under that rule, the person who made the so called original template is also infringing copyright, as train shaped albums are readily available in the paper world. So she must have just copied the idea too. Something to think about it.
I'm not for or against Rustic Charms, but people need to tread a little more carefully.
The only aother alternative is that she saved the store preview of the templates and used it as a "guide" to make her "own". This would still be COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT/COPYING.
How anyone can defend her is beyond me.
April 6, 2010 7:16 PM
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Under that rule, the person who made the so called original template is also infringing copyright, as train shaped albums are readily available in the paper world. So she must have just copied the idea too. Something to think about it.
I'm not for or against Rustic Charms, but people need to tread a little more carefully.
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Do you know anything about the situation...or are you just saying shit to say it? It wasn't as general as your making it out to be. You are incorrect, and as dumb as the other two.
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Did you even read what I said? There are one or two people who are just too ready to call other people idiots.
I was merely pointing out the idiocy of the copyright infringement argument, did you miss that? Was I just too subtle? Not enough swearing and name calling to make sense?
I don't think anyone who is saying 'wait a minute, this isn't actually piracy' is defending her .... yes what she did is copyright infringement, but calling her a pirate when there is not proof she is such a thing isn't right.
Copyright infringement is wrong. I'm still glad she closed her store.
I'm so happy to have found this blog. Lots of fun and enlightening reading material.
Now, how about I go ahead and call myself an idiot and a moron to save all of you the trouble? LMBO
Remember Anelia Designs with the Wonderland themed website? Take a look at this thread. Particularly the link to a sample of her kits. And yes, that is an actual element of Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter in her "Bits of Wonderland" kit. ((Rubbing my eyes as I can't really be seeing this!))
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/calls-15/ct-call-new-personal-store-anelia-net-236067/
Here is the kit sample link:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4286/samplekits.jpg
I wonder if any crazy parents have ever actually named a child Anonymous? It would be really funny.
Remember Anelia Designs with the Wonderland themed website? Take a look at this thread. Particularly the link to a sample of her kits. And yes, that is an actual element of Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter in her "Bits of Wonderland" kit. ((Rubbing my eyes as I can't really be seeing this!))
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/calls-15/ct-call-new-personal-store-anelia-net-236067/
Here is the kit sample link:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4286/samplekits.jpg
April 6, 2010 11:16 PM
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No effing shit? That's crazy bold of her.
I am a designer, never copied/pirated/inspired/ignored-TOU, but no way will I join the Seal of Approval group. I agree that sometimes designers are pissy little people. I remember the Faith True fiasco--can't remember the designer in question--but she accused Faith of stalking her and putting out identical kits after she put out hers. It caused all kinds of meanness and vindictiveness, and yes, luckily, Faith survived it. (I like Faith too).
There are too many instances of designs being released at the same time that look the same but are completely uninspired by each other. However, with this group, you could put out your design a day after someone else and even though you've been working on it for a month, you'd get accused of copying. And yes, your reputation would be ruined, especially if you're not one of the big names.
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I love Faith, she's so down-to-earth. It's that redhair that makes her so stubborn and able to persevere over the BS. I'd hate to see her stop designing, she's about the only one that's got original stuff.
Seriously? Freaking Seriously???? Johnny Depp is in her kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!! I almost feel sorry for her being so naive. Wow.
Remember Anelia Designs with the Wonderland themed website? Take a look at this thread. Particularly the link to a sample of her kits. And yes, that is an actual element of Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter in her "Bits of Wonderland" kit. ((Rubbing my eyes as I can't really be seeing this!))
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/calls-15/ct-call-new-personal-store-anelia-net-236067/
Here is the kit sample link:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/4286/samplekits.jpg
April 6, 2010 11:16 PM
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I like how she says (in her call flyer) that her designs are mostly hand painted and digitally created. lol!
Don't feel sorry for her. She sounds like she knows the business well enough. I noticed she has CU products in her store as well, it's just a sneak peek so you can't see everything. I wonder if she has Johnny as a CU pack as well? He'd look great in my next kit!
Wish I had the balls to say something to her in the dst forum. Alas, I don't. :)
Even if "Johnny" isn't part of her kit but only on the previews, she is violating copyright. It was pointed out to her on her blog that she can't use those copyrighted images even just on previews. I guess she thinks she's above the law.
Did she remove the kit preview from that post? Maybe someone has already told her it's not okay to use copyrighted images.
It probably still wouldn't have been fine for her to sell the train templates as personal use, because you have to flatten the original files. Also, with the hangers, most TOU's say you can't resell element packs for PU. Whether it was a copywrite violation, TOU problem, or pirating, the decent thing to do would be immediately pull the product instead of lie about it straight off. The fact that she immediately said "I extracted those" instead of saying "Oh I thought I could use them like that" proves her guilt.
Did she remove the kit preview from that post? Maybe someone has already told her it's not okay to use copyrighted images.
April 7, 2010 1:12 AM
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No, click on the link under her call add that says, "starting kits to work with - here".
why does kaylaugh have to be in the middle of all this crap? She's not even a designer? And most importantly, she's NOT a lawyer!!! She seems to want to dictate the rules for the digi community and it's driving me insane that's she always right there when the shit hits the fan.
What are they gonna do when the pirates pirate the seal? LOL!!! It happened on Ebay many years ago with a company called "Square Trade" that was set up as a mediation company.
anneofalamo isn't a designer either. I think they all need to stop trying to police their hobby. If the designers want to set something up just for designers, fine. It's their business, they have more at stake. Scrappers should just shut up.
They've already talked about including CT members in their stupid witch hunt. If they do that, they'd better make damn sure to NEVER take an anonymous accusation seriously. I can see petty, vindictive women making all kinds of false claims and even creating false "proof" if they don't have to make accusations under their own names.
why does kaylaugh have to be in the middle of all this crap? She's not even a designer? And most importantly, she's NOT a lawyer!!! She seems to want to dictate the rules for the digi community and it's driving me insane that's she always right there when the shit hits the fan.
Agreed. And she has a faulty understanding of copyright and 'teaches' it in her videos. I HATE when people say digital scrapbooking is a 'gray area' regarding copyright laws. It's not. The laws don't have to specifically say anything about digital scrapbooking - they apply to all photographs and scans no matter WHAT the end purpose is.
I would get too worked up about it. This "idea" comes up about every 2 years and nothing gets started. They don't have the money or the authority to police a free market.
*wouldn't (I need coffee!!) LOL!!
The "seal" is basically a way for crappy designers to promote their crap. Stores like The Digi Chick, Catscrap, Scrap Artist, Sweet Shoppe, After 5, etc. aren't going to touch that stupid seal! They don't need to! I don't understand why people buy from crap stores and then are surprised when the products are either pirated or crappy.
One of my favorite quotes from Tommy Boy:
Ted Nelson, Customer: But why do they put a guarantee on the box?
Tommy: Because they know all they sold ya was a guaranteed piece of shit. That's all it is, isn't it? Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time...
Yeah, and about a list for pirates...
Baers Garten would be on that list. She's still selling at a "reputable" store. But wasn't that just a misunderstanding? Everyone hugged and made-up? But crap like that could happen and then a designer is forever named a pirate because a moronic committee/witch hunters named it so.
I think the whole idea is stupid. Because a pirate designer only has to change their name. What are they going to do? Look through all the new designers work and make sure they have rights to use every staple and button? The people that volunteer to be inspected aren't going to be the pirates.
http://www.stopdigitalpiracy.blogspot.com/
The witch hunt is starting - wonder if they have the money to cover the legal costs when someone brings them to court for slander/libel, etc.?
I give it 3 months tops. There's not that much piracy amongst designers. I think they are making a bigger deal out if it than necessary.
If you're going to go after what's-her-name for using Disney's Mad Hatter Johnny image, you need to include Flergs on that little rampage for using wall-e and Twilight images to promote her kits. I didn't see the jaw-dropping, totally dumbfounded "Seriously? Freaking Seriously???? wall-e / Twilight characters are in her kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!! I almost feel sorry for her being so naive. Wow." posts when those instances were brought up.
Using it for promotion is one not good. BUT repackaging and selling the images??? That's over the top!
why does kaylaugh have to be in the middle of all this crap? She's not even a designer? And most importantly, she's NOT a lawyer!!! She seems to want to dictate the rules for the digi community and it's driving me insane that's she always right there when the shit hits the fan.
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OMG. She drives me crazy. I'm thinking about just blocking her at DST so I don't have to even LOOK at her, much less read her drivel. She's a self-appointed expert in EVERYTHING digital and makes me barf. I hate it when she talks about how hard SHE has worked to professionalize S4O/S4H--she acts like the President of the S4O Guild. And her copyright "information" is usually wrong and when someone points it out to her, she gets all wiggy. And just to be immature about her--why on earth would she use that picture as her avatar?! She looks like a fat, lazy piece of white trash. Use a cartoon or something. That photo is NOT flattering!
Where does flergs use Wall-E in her Industr-E kit? I just see a bunch of rusty elements!
And just to be immature about her--
LMAO!!!
(and agreeing)
Does kaylaugh do S4H? Her gallery is horrible, do people actually hire her?
Using it for promotion is one not good. BUT repackaging and selling the images??? That's over the top!
April 7, 2010 3:12 PM
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Exactly. Not only does she have the Johnny Depp image, but the white rabbit, the mouse, the mushrooms, the swirly tree branches, and the swirling hat background. All owned, drawn/created by Disney. Its beyond ridiculous!
well, now you have a trusty "Stop Digital Piracy" blog that you can report it to. BWAHAHAHAHA!
Does kaylaugh do S4H? Her gallery is horrible, do people actually hire her?
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I have wondered that same thing. I think she just made herself the self-appointed expert/ruler-of-all-mankind. I can't imagine anyone hiring her--not if they've seen her gallery.
I also hate how she tries to strong arm designers into making all their stuff S4O friendly. She is always "compiling lists", "ensuring quality", and "educating others" about S4O. She encourages "her followers" to boycott designers who are not S4O friendly or who charge an extra fee. My stuff is not S4O-friendly, but if someone emails me and asks permission, I always allow it. She just turned me off on the whole thing.
And yeah, before anyone brings it up, I am bitter. I just don't like people like that.
So who will be the "judge" when it is one of the designers at ESS that is accussed of piracy? Will that get swept under the rug?
And yeah, before anyone brings it up, I am bitter. I just don't like people like that.
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You don't sound bitter at all. I think she can be a bully especially if it comes to using anything except ACDsee for scrapping and organizing.
If you're going to go after what's-her-name for using Disney's Mad Hatter Johnny image, you need to include Flergs on that little rampage for using wall-e and Twilight images to promote her kits. I didn't see the jaw-dropping, totally dumbfounded "Seriously? Freaking Seriously???? wall-e / Twilight characters are in her kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!! I almost feel sorry for her being so naive. Wow." posts when those instances were brought up.
April 7, 2010 3:06 PM
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I brought them up here. No one cared/s.
As a designer, if my name was wrongly slandered on that blog I would use every dime in my small pockets and risk house and home to take those bitches to court. They should proceed with caution.
As for the new Disney designer, has anyone reported her yet?
I brought them up here. No one cared/s.
April 7, 2010 3:48 PM
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Maybe because she didn't use the items in her kits? I don't see anything in the industr-e kit that's from Disney.
And just to be immature about her--why on earth would she use that picture as her avatar?! She looks like a fat, lazy piece of white trash. Use a cartoon or something. That photo is NOT flattering!
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I don't like her attitude either but you do know that she has MS right? This comment was just tacky.
MS or not, it's an ugly, unflattering photo.
oh great! The PC police are back.
Can anyone explain this to me? At the stop piracy blog, there is a list with designers, with the title: Stop Piracy Supporters. What does that mean? Are those designers pirates or what?
No, they are probably on the witch-hunt committee.
They aren't the pirates. They just support the witch-hunt idea.
*All designers are innocent until proven guilty *
*Pirates listed here have been contacted and have proof against them*
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Only a court of law can deem someone legally guilty in the US. A team on a blog can't do that no matter how much evidence they have! They better be prepared for some libel lawsuits!
I know she has MS. Not least because she's made it public knowledge.
I have MS too, but you don't know because I've never 'shared' that info at DST, why would I? It's not relevant to digiscrapping and it's nobody's business. I don't need sympathy or to have 'allowances' made.
I do however find it offensive that you think commenting on Kaylaugh's resemblance to 'fat, lazy white trash' is tacky because she has MS. What has her MS got to do with anything? Do you think all people with MS look like fat, lazy white trash? I hope not, because that really WOULD be tacky.
They aren't the pirates. They just support the witch-hunt idea.
April 7, 2010 4:07 PM
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I just added them to my "do not buy from" list.
I think that blog is BS. They weren't pirated, so why are they involved?
I have MS too, but you don't know because I've never 'shared' that info at DST, why would I? It's not relevant to digiscrapping and it's nobody's business. I don't need sympathy or to have 'allowances' made.
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Um....no....we wouldn't "know it" because you are posting as anonymous. For all anyone knows there could be just one person posting all these comments and just posing as different people to amuse themselves. Honestly some of the comments made on this blog just crack me up....idiots all!!
I do however find it offensive that you think commenting on Kaylaugh's resemblance to 'fat, lazy white trash' is tacky because she has MS. What has her MS got to do with anything? Do you think all people with MS look like fat, lazy white trash? I hope not, because that really WOULD be tacky.
Very true. Doesn't Montel Williams have MS? Whatever someone thinks about him, I don't think fat, lazy, or white trash would be among the words used to describe him.
Someone has commented on Anelia's thread but Johny Depp is still in the preview.
yeah, it bothers me too when people are always so ready to share their life's drama. We've all got drama, but I don't need to post it to a digiscrapping board to get attention. I started to write an email to a designer whose coupon had expired while I was going through some pretty traumatic family stuff. I really wanted the coupon to be reactivated, so I started to explain why I didn't use the coupon on time. I deleted the email. I didn't want to be one of those people who use their problems to get special attention or favors. I'll keep my drama to myself and live it vicariously through this blog! LOL!
Kaylaugh is no expert at ACDsee. I use that and some of her explanations and tutorials are ridiculous. She does things the absolute hardest way possible.
Kaylaugh is the one who is trying to start an ACDsee tagging business, right? She gains access to people's computers via the internet and then tags their stuff for them? There's no way in hell I would let that woman have free access to my computer! Is there some protection people can use, because if not then anyone who agrees to it is crazy.
^^^ You can block off access to certain parts of your computer. But I think it's weird too. And something went wrong with one of her customers. She blogged all about it. But I would like to hear the customer's side of the story.
Now she's trying to become the expert on Windows Live Photo Gallery because everyone is switching to it since acdsee sucks and wlpg is free. But honestly, there's not that much to learn in wlpg. My mom is using it and she can barely logon to a website.
m....no....we wouldn't "know it" because you are posting as anonymous.
April 7, 2010 4:57 PM
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Exactly. So you still don't know, that's the point.
I was sort of thinking that maybe Kay Laugh could use ACDSee to solve the piracy problem since it seemed to be answer for every other question that anybody ever had at DST. But now that she's moved on to something else we'll have to endure that promotion for the time being.
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I was sort of thinking that maybe Kay Laugh could use ACDSee to solve the piracy problem since it seemed to be answer for every other question that anybody ever had at DST. But now that she's moved on to something else we'll have to endure that promotion for the time being.
April 7, 2010 8:53 PM
LOL!!! So true!
Does kaylaugh do S4H? Her gallery is horrible, do people actually hire her?
Ya when I first saw her I looked at her gallery and thought no one could possible take her seriously as a S4H businessperson ... but she doesn't go away. And somehow she has access to the DCR? Why does a S4H person have that kind of access?
As for the Disney kit by Anelia - I would say it looks like she was in the movie with her camera taking stills, because her backgrounds for that kit are seriously right out of the movie. I did report her to Disney when her splash page was up - it's changed now and i have no idea if she did that voluntarily or not. When her kit is up in her store I will report that too.
As for the pirate blog - I'm a designer, I have no intention of participating and I have avoided the thread about it at DST. I'm much more in favor of real authorities.
No, you can't mean it....
ACDSee isn't the answer to world hunger? It won't cure all sick? It wont make my ass look good in my new jeans? You mean it wont make my husband a better lover? It wont clean my closets?
I am crushed..........
Yes it will! It WILL! It will do those things...It will I swear...it WILL.....
it..
Willl.
It
Willllll.
I have to say the reason I quit surfing DST was because every thread had a ACDSee comment....
Need help with a technique ACdsee does it quickly.
Looking for a small pink flower...Buy ACDsee has it...the one you want.
Your child's grades have fallen...Buy ACDsee his grades will go up as soon as you pay.....
Did you see that DailyDigi had a write up on organization? And even they seemed bullied into making a comment about tagging with ACDsee.
Where did the link for the stopdigitalpiracy blog come from?? I didn't see it on the DST thread. Is it the same people from the DST thread?
Also what are the qualifications of the people that want to be the checkers on the proposed blog or website?
Does any of this look familiar to anyone or am I just jumping to conclusions. I think I see quite a few things in this store that might have originated from some other commercial use designers
http://www.eyeinspire.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=22&zenid=8c4ea28ce878eb9c1fc9c11956d8755b
Before you go stirring the pot I suggest you either be more specific about the products you "suspect" or you stop and think that IF any CU items were used they may have been used in accordance with the TOU. The only way to know that is if you know the original CU items you "think" have been wrongly used and you have access to the TOU included. Put up or shut up. Comments like yours are what cause shit when there may not be any just cause.
Exactly. Not only does she have the Johnny Depp image, but the white rabbit, the mouse, the mushrooms, the swirly tree branches, and the swirling hat background. All owned, drawn/created by Disney. Its beyond ridiculous!
April 7, 2010 3:26 PM
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Actually the Disney hat background is different, but the rest is the same.
I looked at that eyeinspire store. It looks like the SSDD (same shit, different designer) kind of stuff. I see a lot that could possibly be filter forge renders and art rage glitters, you know, stuff that anyone with the right applications can make themselves. Not fantastic design skills but certainly not questionable, in my opinion.
Where did the link for the stopdigitalpiracy blog come from?? I didn't see it on the DST thread. Is it the same people from the DST thread?
Also what are the qualifications of the people that want to be the checkers on the proposed blog or website?
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They only posted here. Great way to get the word out and make them legit. note: sarcasm Maybe they posted in the designer forum at DST? But how helpful is that?
Their qualifications are that they all work at EnchantedStudioScraps, so basicaly nothing spectacular. They have self-designated themselves as the digi police and court of law. They have no more authority than a hall-montior.
The stop digital piracy blog has been around for a couple of years. Jen Strange started it and it was really a good source of information. Jen Strange is one of those gals that needs to come back and be the voice of reason to some of the other morons at DST.
Check the link above. It is NOT the same blog by Jen Strange. She wasn't about calling them out and judging whether or not people were pirates. She was about educating the public on piracy. I agree, she needs to come back and knock some reasoning into these people.
Why don't digi sites register for the BBB? or at least the USA ones? Other than pickleberrypop or catscrap, I never shop international. I have no recourse if it goes wrong. Buyer beware! I know they want something international, but retail doesn't have anything international. And the place that does international bbb-like things, is merely mediation when it's international. A company doesn't have to comply to the outcome. They look like a rip-off!
so....being petty here....I hate know-it-alls! A few years ago, it was Barb Speck who had to answer every thread and give her opinion on everything (and of course her opinion was always right). Then Cassell came along and became the know-it-all, and now it's Jewel the Queen. She has an answer for EVERYthing! (and I'm pretty sure she hangs out here and has an answer for everything because her postings in the DCR are almost word-for-word what is written here. So, either she's getting her information from here or she's posting all her wisdom here too. I'm just sick of hearing from her on everything....thoughts?
Crap. Kaylaugh is now at SSD. I can't get away from her.
wv=excesseb
Excesseb exposure to kaylaugh is gonna send me to another digi site.
I like Jewel. At least she has smart answers.
I'm not her. I just respected what she had to say when that stupid crediting thread blew-up. She was a voice of reason amongst the insanity.
But I'm not in the DCR. So I don't see her posts there.
I'm in agreement on the know-it-alls, though. But only if they don't really have something worthwhile to contribute. Some of them come in and say what everyone else is saying and seem to think because they said it, it is now biblical.
I am not part of the StopPIracy blog, I understand their frustration and anger, but believe that is not the way to do this! In my heart, I want to publically humiliate and castigate those who steal goods from another designer and then claim as their own. But that is not my
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Then, why are you listed as a follower on the blog? huh?
duh moment~of many more
I wanted it to come to my google reader!
having my fat face on there does seem like a vote of support.
good point
I'm glad you don't support them, Anne!
http://digidesignersonline.com/content.php?5-Seal-of-Approval-for-designers
Looks like the next installment of the witch hunt!
and notice who posted that thread! Cassell! Know-it-all #2! Ironic?
Does any of this look familiar to anyone or am I just jumping to conclusions. I think I see quite a few things in this store that might have originated from some other commercial use designers
http://www.eyeinspire.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=22
She sells for CU stores and those are her own designs! Sheesh this is why having people make certain comments takes so much out of context and then everyone will be accusing her of stealing her own designs. Rediculous.
Kaylah has been told before not to comment on copyright but she's in a wheel chair for Christ's sake why don't you find a dog to kick around. So you don't like her always talking about ACDsee - then don't read her posts. Easy Peasy
For God's sake. How does somebody being a wheelchair make any fucking difference to anything? It's alright to be annoying/irritating/stupid/whatever if you're in a wheelchair? Disability isn't retardation or a licence to do whatever the fuck you like. Disabled people don't need to be made allowances for.
For God's sake. How does somebody being a wheelchair make any fucking difference to anything? It's alright to be annoying/irritating/stupid/whatever if you're in a wheelchair? Disability isn't retardation or a licence to do whatever the fuck you like. Disabled people don't need to be made allowances for.
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Disabled people and non-disabled people alike deserve compassion though. She hasn't done anything unethical or illegal. All she has done is express an opinion that others disagree with or find irritating and for that she gets disparaged on this blog for everything from her posts to her avatar. Give it a rest people.
She's not the first to get a virtual kicking here for having opinions others don't like, she won't be the last. We don't do compassion here. For anyone, disabled or otherwise. Big girl panties, etc.
So who will be the "judge" when it is one of the designers at ESS that is accussed of piracy? Will that get swept under the rug?
Their qualifications are that they all work at EnchantedStudioScraps, so basicaly nothing spectacular.
I (and maybe others?) reported ESS to Disney when they had a new designer whose store was full of copyright infringements. I know that isn't quite the same as pirating, but I still find it ironic that ESS is involved in a 'stop pirating' blog.
There's a lot of that eyeinspire stuff at digiscrapwarehouse - maybe that's why it looks familiar to you.
Where have I been!!!!!!! I went to the digital piracy blog & I didn't recognize any of those store names.
For God's sake. How does somebody being a wheelchair make any fucking difference to anything? It's alright to be annoying/irritating/stupid/whatever if you're in a wheelchair? Disability isn't retardation or a licence to do whatever the fuck you like. Disabled people don't need to be made allowances for.
Well pot say hello to kettle because you sure are annoying, irritating and stupid and you obviously aren't in a wheelchair but you obviously have a disability and it's between your ears!!
I am so sick of hearing about pirates and seals of approval. Sorry, but this shit is going to happen, it's the price of doing business with this kind of cottage industry.
From now on could we ban any "pot/kettle" references? I swear somebody uses it every 100 posts.
What can't be said here:
pot/kettle
trailer trash
get a life
grow up
stupid bitch
fuck off
Anything else you all want to add?
No?
Then fuck off! LOL
Where have I been!!!!!!! I went to the digital piracy blog & I didn't recognize any of those store names.
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I was just thinking this morning that unless and until all these good intentioned but wrong-headed pirate hunters/seal-markers manage to get the buy-in from the big-name sites and designers this whole effort is just a lot of wasted time. These second-tier stores & designers should spend their time working on improving their skill sets and talents instead of trying to police an ungovernable situation.
Do you all remember the flying mute swan in the CU item on this blog from a month ago? The one where an Anonymous poster showed the WIKI image link from which it was extracted?
With all the designers relying on CU products, and the glorious and benevolent witch hunt, does anybody besides me see a problem?
A beloved designer also has WIKI images in her kits. They may or may not be cleaned up, but I have seen them as public domain images, and when I do, I copy them to my hard drive because they are beautiful - beautiful, and in the public domain.
Keep in mind, there is nothing to prevent me from selling them in a kit, in a CU kit, or in a CU4CU kit. It is not illegal, it is not immoral; they are beautiful images in the public domain. If she can sell them, then so can I.
"Kaylah has been told before not to comment on copyright:
Who told her that?
I was the one who thought Joelle had painted that swan herself. Someone found the exact swan on wiki and posted the link. I was wrong and admitted it, but it started a thought process .. what else? A lot of her stufff and other high profile designers stuff seems to be taken from wiki and other sources that we all have access to - granny art is one. They put their items in kits and slap a copyright on it. That's bullshit.
I can see this whole seal of approval thing becoming a monster and a witch hunt. There are too many public domain items that are being circulated for anyone to say that this one was copied or that one. Some innocent designer is going to get her reputation ruined by this group.
I can see this whole seal of approval thing becoming a monster and a witch hunt. There are too many public domain items that are being circulated for anyone to say that this one was copied or that one. Some innocent designer is going to get her reputation ruined by this group.
April 9, 2010 5:32 PM
That's exactly what's going to happen, as some of us have tried to point out on that thread. But anneofalamo, or whatever her name is, is determined to try to get something started. I guess she thinks she's trying to do something good, but nothing good is going to come of it. Seal of approval? Please. It needs to stop before it goes any further. There are always going to be pirates and thieves, unfortunately there's no way to stop it. It sucks, but it is what it is.
Don't worry about that self-appointed seal-issuing group of well-intentioned-but-naive people. My bet is the only ones joining will be those who toss a pile of extracted dollar shop ornaments into a folder and call it a "kit" and call themselves "designers" - the ones from all those stores nobody has heard of and where the "designers" go by a stupid fantasy type design name instead of their real name. The funny part of it is that the people who toss a bunch of "freebies" into a kit are all worried about someone pirating "their" kits......... the very kits they didn't even create in the first place. Even funnier is that they put their own TOU into these kits to "protect" their work. What a bunch of idiots. LOL
That's exactly what's going to happen, as some of us have tried to point out on that thread. But anneofalamo, or whatever her name is, is determined to try to get something started. I guess she thinks she's trying to do something good, but nothing good is going to come of it. Seal of approval? Please. It needs to stop before it goes any further. There are always going to be pirates and thieves, unfortunately there's no way to stop it. It sucks, but it is what it is.
April 9, 2010 6:46 PM
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Intentions may be good but there are huge flaws in their thinking. 1. Piracy will NEVER be stamped out.
2. Self appointed pirate hunters with nothing better to do will sift the might web looking for anything they "suspect" is pirated/copied/stolen. Two people use the same image in a kit. The "police" will determine that designer A had her kit out 2 weeks before designer B so that will be "proof" enough for them that designer B must be a thief/pirate. Will they stop to think that both designers legally sourced the image from the same place and both have the right to use it or will they jump to conclusions and cry foul?
The whole idea is naive, time wasting and I see the number of innocent people falsly accused of wrongdoing far greater than they number of pirates exposed.
And you guys are ready to call her a pirate and ruin someone's reputation over a TOU violation? You should be ashamed.
April 6, 2010 11:19 AM
Yes, yes this is exactly what the self-proclaimed digi-police/"pirate" hunters do all the time. It's been this way for years.
http://www.stopdigitalpiracy.blogspot.com/
The witch hunt is starting - wonder if they have the money to cover the legal costs when someone brings them to court for slander/libel, etc.?
April 7, 2010 2:43 PM
That blog is an epic disaster-in-the-making.
The witch hunt starts .... hazelsmurf tries to slam a designer who used brush that 'looked' like a vector she had in her stash. WTF! Just stop people - take a breath. How many baseless accusatons are now going to be credited? How many reputations are they going to ruin????
Used to be this was the only place for baseless, useless posting. Sad to see were being squeezed out.
What does it matter whether you use a screen name or a design name? I happen to have a very common first and last name, so common in fact that there is already a designer using my first and last name as a design name and another designer using my first and middle name as a design name. Am somehow less of a designer if I have a "business" name instead of a designer name?
Only if you "hide" your real identity. It's the ones using design names but never revealing their real names that I'm suspicious of. Who know if it's just another "cover" for the likes of Dykan or other proven thieves.
http://www.stopdigitalpiracy.blogspot.com/
^Yikes they made that background look awful. If I were Flergs I'd want them to remove that credit at the bottom.
That blog is pointless and really is a witch hunt. I'm a designer myself and I know piracy will never stop, just something you have to deal with if you are in this industry (or most for that matter these days). I'm not going to waste my time looking for things that *might* be similar to my designs. If I see someone flat out giving away my kits that I have in my store, then yes I'll be upset. I have them removed from 4shared and such all the time for this reason but that's all the effort I'm putting into it.
Those designers are just looking to put other people out of business so someone might actually buy their products...
Those designers are just looking to put other people out of business so someone might actually buy their products...
April 9, 2010 9:23 PM
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Bingo!
And what of the "newbies" who are led to believe that they should only purchase from the "seal bearers"? Talk about a good way to destroy their own industry.
Random thought...is Royanna a drag queen? She's so bug utley.
And what of the "newbies" who are led to believe that they should only purchase from the "seal bearers"? Talk about a good way to destroy their own industry.
April 9, 2010 10:07 PM
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They will learn differently. It's like when newbies came into digi a few years ago and were led to believe to only purchase from the in group of designers. They soon learnt. Just because they are new, it doesn't make them stupid.
Is there an "in" group of designers? I don't personally care who's popular. I just care who is good. They tend to be the same people imo.
Someone said something about selling styles made with Art Rage and Filter Forge - got me thinking - is that wrong? I mean, from the perspective of someone who doesn't have AR or FF, wouldn't you want the styles?
Is there any other way to make good glitter?
I don't know about Filter Forge but anything made in Artrage is allowed to be sold. Even the sticker sprays that come with the program. I wouldn't sell those ones but I would any I made myself in Artrage. And Yes, you can make glitter in PS. Check out SBB. You might find a tut there.
Oh sorry, I should have been more clear. I kind of picked up on some disdain for selling styles made from AR and FF from someone on this blog - so I was more asking if it was generally looked down on by people in the industry, or if it was just that one person who seemed to look down on it.
Is there an "in" group of designers? I don't personally care who's popular. I just care who is good. They tend to be the same people imo.
April 9, 2010 11:27 PM
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Not my experience. I used to know a lot of good designers who weren't popular and popular designers who weren't that good. I have no idea what's what or who's who anymore as I haven't shopped or looked in a long time.
Oh sorry, I should have been more clear. I kind of picked up on some disdain for selling styles made from AR and FF from someone on this blog - so I was more asking if it was generally looked down on by people in the industry, or if it was just that one person who seemed to look down on it.
April 10, 2010 12:01 AM
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It's no different than making something in PS and selling it. I don't know why people frown on stuff made in Artrage. Not everyone has that program so there will be those who are happy they can buy from those who do.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW FLERGS GOT AWAY WITH THE WALL-E KIT ITEMS? WHY WAS THAT LET GO? WHY IS IT IGNORED?
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why are you shouting? She got away with it because she was smart enough to be near enough without actually being close and infringing on copyright.
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW FLERGS GOT AWAY WITH THE WALL-E KIT ITEMS? WHY WAS THAT LET GO? WHY IS IT IGNORED?
April 10, 2010 4:07 AM
This is because people turn the other cheek when people like her who think they are shit hot designers can get away with shit. When someone less well known does something of the same type of nature they are smeared for Copyright infringement. Pretty pathetic.
shut the fuck and scrap, people. no idea why these losers that aren't even designers give a shit about policing others and keeping track of this or that. get a fucking life.
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shut the fuck and scrap, people. no idea why these losers that aren't even designers give a shit about policing others and keeping track of this or that. get a fucking life.
April 10, 2010 10:11 AM
Your intellegence soars in that post!!
Yeah, Up Up and Away with the Man In The Moon LOL
Maybe we should make allowances for her shitty disposition. Perhaps she got out of bed on the wrong side or maybe her partner kicked her sorry ass out of the bed last night. LOL
I never saw anything from Flergs that infringed on Wall-e's copyright. Care to show us exactly what you are yelling about?
Only if you "hide" your real identity. It's the ones using design names but never revealing their real names that I'm suspicious of. Who know if it's just another "cover" for the likes of Dykan or other proven thieves.
You do realize that Psycho Dyko created a whole new persona complete with pictures, right? Lily Anne Taylor ring a bell?
Random thought...is Royanna a drag queen? She's so bug utley.
I had the same thought one day when she popped up on my FB suggested friends list (why she was there I do not know!)She's one scarey looking 'woman'.
That's exactly what's going to happen, as some of us have tried to point out on that thread. But anneofalamo, or whatever her name is, is determined to try to get something started. I guess she thinks she's trying to do something good, but nothing good is going to come of it. Seal of approval? Please. It needs to stop before it goes any further. There are always going to be pirates and thieves, unfortunately there's no way to stop it. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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Anne may have gotten this started but it is Ripal who was quick to set up a site to administer the whole thing. I know people think highly of her but she seems like a blatant opportunist to me and I wouldn't touch that new site of hers with a 10-foot pole. This whole thing just has UGLY written all over it. A list should be started now on how many innocent people end up getting damaged by this "well-intentioned" group and how many more good designers end up dropping out of the business because of this...talk about a circular firing squad!
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME HOW FLERGS GOT AWAY WITH THE WALL-E KIT ITEMS? WHY WAS THAT LET GO? WHY IS IT IGNORED?
April 10, 2010 4:07 AM
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I'll ASK again. WHERE ARE THE WALL-E ITEMS IN THE KIT? (all I see is a kit full of rusty gadgets in the preview!)Noone answered me from about 30 posts back.
[i]"Anne may have gotten this started but it is Ripal who was quick to set up a site to administer the whole thing."[/i]
Ripal had the site set up long before this started. It was started after she left DST months ago.
WHERE ARE THE WALL-E ITEMS IN THE KIT?
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I think people are all messed up about it because one of her CTMs used Wall-E in a layout. It's a layout example. But Flergs didn't actually use Wall-E stuff in her kit. They're just trying to ruin her name. One of the reasons that this piracy group shouldn't be allowed to continue.
I need a Wall-e kit. Guess I'll go swipe from Disney. I was hoping she was hiding some files that weren't on the preview.
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Is this blog ever gonna be updated?
Maybe someone should start a new one that starts a new post at least once or twice a month.
Anyone interested?
This post has over 1500 posts. And Blogger.com has been so weird lately, it takes forever to finally get to the end of the comments. (at least on my cmpt)
Someone said something about selling styles made with Art Rage and Filter Forge - got me thinking - is that wrong? I mean, from the perspective of someone who doesn't have AR or FF, wouldn't you want the styles?
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I have both and I use both and yes you can use for CU. With filter forge you have to make changes and not use the filters as is but since those filters are made by different designers it's good to ask to make sure. The thought behind them is that you can make your own.
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I'd love to see a photo of the person who thinks Royanna looks like a drag queen. You're so flattering I wonder what you look like-the donkeys back end????
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Is this blog ever gonna be updated?
Maybe someone should start a new one that starts a new post at least once or twice a month.
Anyone interested?
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What's there to update with?
But new space would be helpful. I agree with the clicking through to get to the last posts.
I think people are all messed up about it because one of her CTMs used Wall-E in a layout. It's a layout example. But Flergs didn't actually use Wall-E stuff in her kit. They're just trying to ruin her name. One of the reasons that this piracy group shouldn't be allowed to continue.
April 10, 2010 3:33 PM
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Exactly! Some people just want to drag others down and will say and do anything. On the other hand, some people are just stupid and assume and say things in an attempt to make them look smarter.
Some of the stuff that these designers are claiming as their own are CU scans purchased by them - not designed by them. They are FASTENERS, not hand drawn art - this is just crazy ridiculous to accuse someone of stealing a scan of something found in every hardware store.
Who are these self appointed experts who will determine who is a pirate and who is not? Are they lawyers? What are their credentials? What is the criteria for determining if an item is pirated? Someone else's word? Right. That is a cluster you know what just waiting to happen.
Some of the stuff that these designers are claiming as their own are CU scans purchased by them - not designed by them. They are FASTENERS, not hand drawn art - this is just crazy ridiculous to accuse someone of stealing a scan of something found in every hardware store.
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Trying hard to explain this. You may want to read slowly so you get it.
A scan is the same thing as a photograph. A photograph can be copyrighted no matter what the subject matter. When you take the photograph/scan and extract it you have also created a work of art. The problem isn't that they are using the same item found in a hardware store. It is piracy to take someone else's digital work and resell it no matter how common place the item may be.
And why not go to the hardware store and buy one. And then scan and extract it yourself? Then you can legally sell your own work and be proud that you aren't stealing someone else's effort and time!
5:45 actually I look like Brad Pitt. Thanks for the compliment though.
Trying hard to explain this. You may want to read slowly so you get it.
A scan is the same thing as a photograph. A photograph can be copyrighted no matter what the subject matter. When you take the photograph/scan and extract it you have also created a work of art. The problem isn't that they are using the same item found in a hardware store. It is piracy to take someone else's digital work and resell it no matter how common place the item may be.
And why not go to the hardware store and buy one. And then scan and extract it yourself? Then you can legally sell your own work and be proud that you aren't stealing someone else's effort and time!
April 10, 2010 9:00 PM
Ok so if Person A Extracted a item they found at a hardware store and then Person B extracts the same exact item but person A calls out person B even though they did extract it themselves. So therefore they can still get a bad rep for extracting the same exact item. Kind of like the elements at SSD that this girl took out of a designers kit from there, Who is to say she did not find the exact same frame somewhere, extracted it and used it. The Designer from SSD did not make that frame it was obviously extracted
Hmmm. Someone seems intent on justifying piracy! Makes me wonder who's posting!
It's impossible to get the lighting and the sharpness exactly the same from scans. It will vary from scanner to scanner and even monitors will cause some color adjustment differences. Those items were pirated! She didn't even bother to change the color! And if she really did scan and extract herself, why didn't she just produce the original file or even rescan the item to prove innocence?
And it would be a rare thing for someone to use a stock photo and accuse someone of pirating. They know that means other designers can have rights to that photo too.
Ok so if Person A Extracted a item they found at a hardware store and then Person B extracts the same exact item but person A calls out person B even though they did extract it themselves
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It would be impossible to get the exact same angle and lighting. You could put those items on top of each other and they would be identical.
And many designers are photographing, not scanning. Again, this means that the lighting and angles would be difficult to reproduce. There would be some variation.
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Obviously you are one of the designers caught pirating, because it really IS simple. It's not about scanning photographing the same thing. These were the EXACT items. Look at the lighting, the angle, the scratches--everything. Those pirate designers did not scan/extract those items themselves--they took another person's scans/extractions/art and used it in their kits.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?
I am not justifying pirating but thanks for assuming. I was stating a opinion and you are right the lighting and such would be different. I was not stating that she did not pirate the items by any means. Also do not worry about who is posting, I am sure I am no one that you know but you can sure take a wild guess.")
Designers need to save their orginal scans and photographs of the extractions. And all CU proof of purchase.
Problem solved!
sorry 9:25. I was answering 9:22 above at the same time you were answering. I wasn't calling you out.
Oh damn you caught me lmao. Yes I am a huge pirate and also a Designer. Damn you should start your own psychic network dumbshit!! I am not a pirate nor a Designer. Thanks again for assuming.
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Since you don't design, then you don't know that's the type of crap a pirate spews. They try to justify what they've done by lying and saying that they did the scanning and extraction themselves. I think they start to believe they have rights to the item. So that's why everyone is jumping on you.
Some of the stuff that these designers are claiming as their own are CU scans purchased by them - not designed by them. They are FASTENERS, not hand drawn art - this is just crazy ridiculous to accuse someone of stealing a scan of something found in every hardware store.
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Is this a new piracy thing or the old one with Rustic Creations?
well someone mentioned Joelle's use of the swans from wiki - yes, they're free for anyone to take from wiki, but she altered them before adding to her kit. So, if someone pirated the swans from her kit, imo it would be easy to tell. If someone just extracted the swans themselves, they wouldn't be exactly like Joelle's. Same as someone else mentioned with the lighting, etc., when you photo/scan. I don't think instances like this will end up on the anti piracy blog.
Do the owners of Scrap Orchard still own DSA? I don't go to DSA much, but I was looking at a thread about doing another SYTYCD game and an admin said they don't have a store to offer the owner a guest spot in. Wasn't a guest spot at SO the prize last time? So does that mean the SO owners aren't part of DSA anymore?
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That should say they don't have a store to offer the winner a guest spot in.
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