ok, so material has been a bit sparse over at the hub, so I thought we could discuss the call forum. A quick scroll through the forum I saw a multiple offers relating to digi needs.
CT calls
Designer calls
Advertising Guru
Preview Maker
Ad maker
Guest Calls
Product tester
One time CT opportunities
Publication calls
Site CT
QP Artists
Web site admin \ designer
These two particularly by Seascraps are interesting:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=130776
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=130777
and of course the wildly crazy CT requirements for Rose Farver; and I am eagerly waiting for the announcement of the gals that are looking for this type of gig:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=128827
Do you scan the DST forum for Digi "opportunities"? Designers is this an effective source for recruiting talent? If you had web design \ admin skills, would you offer your services in trade for scrap supplies? If you look at the calls does the quality \ style of the ad make an impression? Is free product enough compensation for the expectations of some of these designer requests? Would targeting your customer base, blog readers, be a better source for potential CT members? Discuss the Call forum, its contents or anything else that might spark some debate.
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Wow, do these people think that scrappers out there have nothing else to do with their lives than to be a designer's goon?
I posted my calls through DST and my own site. I did look to see if they already had layouts with my products. That was important to me.
I have someone who is charge of challenges/blog - they don't have any other requirements. I have someone who is my head ct - she organizes things for me - she has no other requirements. And one of my woman does only my kit previews for me - I don't expect her to do anything else either. Could I make my own preview for my kits? Absolutely and I have. It's something she did once without my asking and she enjoyed doing. I love how she does them. It works out for us.
Web design? I would never ask to pay someone in product. I paid someone $200 + to set up my site.
Maybe there are people willing to do that kind of work for product, but I'm not willing to ask for it. Nor am I willing to ask for someone to come up with the graphic design of my site without being willing to pay cash.
I've looked at the calls for CT spots. I will only apply to the ones that don't have militant requirements. 2 layouts a month is all I go for because sometimes the mojo just isn't there even if there's fabulous product. But if I'm on a roll, I will do more work because not only does the designer get their product seen more, but I get more pages scrapped.
I also have applied to CTs for designers that I don't have any of their products. They were new to me, I checked out their store, and liked what I saw. I thought it'd be a fun way to see what their product is really like up close.
I recently quit all 3 CTs I was on for the summer because our schedule just doesn't lend itself to much scrapping time. I'm glad I did too because I haven't scrapped a page in about a month I think. For me, it's something to do while my little one is napping and my oldest is in school from fall to spring.
Geez, Rose doesn't expect much does she!!!! Her thread title should have been "Professional Pimps required". What she is expecting is above and beyond. I've never heard of a designer inspecting layouts before allowing them to be posted......and to have a designer tell you to change parts of your layouts....... wow!
I don't even know where to begin w/Rose's call - why doesn't she just ask for a "slave." I'm amazed that people are applying for this crap - maybe they like to be bullied? lol What happened to just having fun scrapping and showing off the products via the layouts in the gallery?
I've posted calls at DST, my own site, my blog, and thru yahoo groups. I like to have a variety of people able to see the ad and apply. Frankly, my CT requirements are really laid back - 1 layout per kit, when done they can ask for another kit. I only expect 2 layouts per month - so, it's not that big a deal. I do have a head CT would just coordinates and makes sure that everyone gets their links. I've been thinking of taking on someone to just do previews for me in return for the kits as well.
However, I would NEVER trade product for web design - this is something that should be handled in a professional way in case something goes wrong and you have some sort of recourse afforded to you.
The seaside calls are very unprofessional imo. If you're looking for quality web design and graphic arts work, you're certainly not going to get much interest if all you're offering is a bit of free product, and from a relative unknown, to boot. There's a lot of truth to the saying 'you get what you pay for' so I don't expect to see those calls getting many nibbles at all.
As for the Rose Farver call, I have to chime in with another, WOW, just WOW. I am always amazed at how some scrappers will let themselves be used like pack mules for a few free kits. No wonder her team has been so small. And I'm amazed that those three ladies aren't seriously burned out. I find the whole 'ct layouts subject to review and possible requests for changes' to be highly distasteful. If she's that darn picky that she would make her ct change their layouts, she ought to just scrap them herself. Ick.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=130918
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Oh snap. The whole thread was stupid to begin with, but I'm grabbing some popcorn now that Laurie has publicly "outted" Natali for scraplifting her and not giving credit. Good grief-more proof that so many designers are nothing more than divas and drama queens always ready to sling mud at each other. This isn't even about something that could make or cost them sales, I guess Laurie's just not happy that she's not getting enough compliments or whatever for having a LO that someone lifted?? Jeez, cry me a river that you're not getting enough attention or props or whatever @@ I seriously cannot believe how damn needy and insecure some of these chicks are. Brings new meaning to the term high maintenence.
I'm sorry, I don't see it. Those are two different layouts.
These people seriously need to get a life. It's rediculous!
I don't think an example was necessary and achieved nothing other than making me think twice about buying from her for fear of using in a some what similar manner of be
linked in a post of how not to do something. Another good reason not to post to galleries
If she though so I would have picked a better one than that. Yes, I see some of the same elements (the frame) and title on the bottom beneath the frame with an element tuck inside but that were it ends. I thought they were both different layouts.
The funny part is that she waited 9 months to make her "please credit my layout" comment. After so long.........why? Was it really necessary?
Makes me want to do an exact scraplift just to piss her off.
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haha @ 4:35
word. I can just imagine the hissy fit that would ensue.
She seriously needs to get over herself.
With all this CT nonsense, I have to wonder if it really increases sales. Personally, what I buy has nothing to do with layouts posted as I rarely go through galleries looking at the scores of layouts. I simply don't have that kind of time.
I'd love to see a poll indicating whether or not people shop based on seeing layouts. I think that would be interesting!
The whole thread was stupid to begin with, but I'm grabbing some popcorn now that Laurie has publicly "outted" Natali for scraplifting her and not giving credit.
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Exactly which post are you talking about? I searched the thread for 'natali' and it got no hits. Who said Natali lifted them?
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if you follow the links that Laurie posted as an example of what NOT to do, you'll understand.
Wow, there sure is some attitude coming from a few people at SA lately. First, not-so Special K and now this Laurie.
I used to consider SA the kind of site that was too classy to get mixed up with all the crapfests over at DST. Not so much these days :(
Rose's designs aren't really all that great, but she probably got plenty of applicants simply because she is at Shabby Pickle which everyone is raving about right now. Once they start working with her stuff I bet a lot of them will leave within a month.
I am wondering if having a CT will help my sales. Is it worth it? I'd love to hear from other designers.
Laurie is so CHILDISH, she had the balls to comment on her layout and thread instead of PM'ing her. I like Natali's version way better and wouldn't call it a lift. It's an IMPROVEMENT.
I like Natali's version way better and wouldn't call it a lift. It's an IMPROVEMENT.
June 28, 2008 12:56 PM
I actually thought the same thing.
Laurie made herself look really mean and foolish with that little tantrum.
The funny part is that she waited 9 months to make her "please credit my layout" comment. After so long.........why? Was it really necessary?
June 27, 2008 11:33 PM
Nope. But it sure did give everyone some interesting insight into what kind of person she really is!
Lots of people expect what Rose does they just arent honest enough to say it up front!
Lots of people expect what Rose does they just arent honest enough to say it up front!
June 28, 2008 1:31 PM
So tell us who! I meant if that's what they expect, people should know, right?
Ok, I want to know from the former CT's, who were the designers that were unbearable to work with? Let's hear some inside scoop.
I am wondering if having a CT will help my sales. Is it worth it? I'd love to hear from other designers.
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I don't think it really helps with my sales at all. Advertising thru yahoo groups is what seems to keep me selling. The CT is just something that everyone seems to think you must have or you're not a "real" designer. Now, if you're like some of these designers and expect your CT to do a ton of stuff besides creating a layout or two per kit ... then maybe all those extras help w/sales in the end. I, however, don't feel comfortable exploiting people.
OK TMI- Even though she does warn it in the title.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=131344
ewwwwww!
I can tell you that CT layouts have never made me want to buy a kit. So many obnoxious, pushy CTs ruined all that for me a long time ago. I do my best to ignore as much CT activity as I can.
Ok, I want to know from the former CT's, who were the designers that were unbearable to work with? Let's hear some inside scoop.
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HANDS down Christina Renee. That woman would pop on Hello and ask you to do something and if you didn't drop every single thing you were doing and do her bidding she got BEYOND pissy. She was always digging for information about other scrappers, other designers and trying to get us to do her dirty work for her.
OMG if you burned your child (even if it was an accident) would you take pics about it and plaster all over a digi board? (talking about Lena here)
trying to get us to do her dirty work for her.
June 28, 2008 6:23 PM
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really? What kind of dirty work? I'm pretty surprised by this b/c she is one the few designers that I have never seen badmouth another designer
June 28, 2008 6:23 PM
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hmm, it didn't take long for the Sarah and Nathy gang to find the new blogs and start in on Christina Renee.
I don't want to mention designer name,because she would probably figure me out, but one I did a term for that, "kept score" on your layouts every month and the number of times you promoted. If it was getting towards the end of the month and you were short on your quota, she would email you to remind you of your commitments.
HANDS down Christina Renee. That woman would pop on Hello and ask you to do something and if you didn't drop every single thing you were doing and do her bidding she got BEYOND pissy. She was always digging for information about other scrappers, other designers and trying to get us to do her dirty work for her.
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Not Sarah or Nathy here, nor am I the OP, but I second this. Only someone who works directly with CR will be able to understand this or I guess even believe it.
CR comes off soooo friendly to the rest of the digiworld, but when you get close to her and get to know her you will know this is true. I actually had to take her off Hello because she would not leave me alone and was such a negative influence in my life. DRAMA surrounded that girl in everything she would say to me, or everything she did!!!
Just look at her CT record. How many has she been through? Her original "Dream Team" consisted of designers and well known CT's, and that did not last long before they quickly jumped ship. Only a very special and patient person can work with her very long, or put up with her drama. That is why she goes through CT members faster than any designer I have seen.
For those that think I am someone that is just out to get her - (or whatever) just look at her CT track record.. that says it all. She is GREAT with the public eye and putting on a nice face, but up close and personal she is a nightmare.
I guess I'm not really surprised at the CRD thing - she's one of those difficult "creative" types, I suppose. I love her stuff, but I wouldn't want to be on her CT. In my experience, people with her personality type are intense, not very organized, and demanding.
I'm glad I can just enjoy her stuff ;)
I'm glad I can just enjoy her stuff ;)
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You like her stuff?? I loved her old stuff, but NO clue how or what to do with the stuff she is putting out now. It is just kinda weird to me.
I pmed Christina once, something that was nice and complimentary. I really sort of put myself "out there" and she never responded. Ever. I thought that was kinda shitty. I wasn't looking for RAK or anything like that either. Just wanted to compliment her.
DRAMA surrounded that girl in everything she would say to me, or everything she did!!!
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I have wondered about her with the intense levels of designing and releasing products and then 'something' happens and she all but disappears for a while. Seems to be a cycle.
But is she really into digging up dirt on people and other designers? And if so, what does she do once she finds stuff out-is she just nosy, or does she do stuff with what she finds out? And what kinds of stuff does she do?
I can certainly believe that she's one of those quirky, even temperamental artist types, but I'm just surprised to hear the stuff about digging up dirt on others-never seen her get embroiled in any public crapfests, etc. But I have wondered about all the CTs changovers and drama.
You like her stuff?? I loved her old stuff, but NO clue how or what to do with the stuff she is putting out now. It is just kinda weird to me.
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that's because she DOESN'T know how to design and she is taking all this really old public domain crap and trying to pass it off as "vintage" scrapping stuff but yea i'm like you, I can't see actually USING any of it and I have to wonder if her sales are anywhere what they used to be?
I like CR's stuff. I use it a lot. I've never seen her be anything but nice, and that's more than I can say for many, many other designers out there.
CR's stuff is great for collage art. You know, designers aren't just marketing and selling to scrappers - there is are huge dollars in the collage/altered art arena. So, while some of her stuff is scary and wouldn't be good framing a child, she rocks the odd layered look necessary for other types of artists.
looks like Rachel Young is going to SBG
http://www.scrapbookgraphics.com/xcart/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=51
that's because she DOESN'T know how to design and she is taking all this really old public domain crap and trying to pass it off as "vintage" scrapping stuff but yea i'm like you, I can't see actually USING any of it and I have to wonder if her sales are anywhere what they used to be?
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ITA! I do a lot of altered art and collage stuff, and her stuff still does NOT appeal to me at all.
OK TMI- Even though she does warn it in the title.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=131344
ewwwwww!
June 28, 2008 5:25 PM
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Geez! what are you? 16?
You like her stuff?? I loved her old stuff, but NO clue how or what to do with the stuff she is putting out now. It is just kinda weird to me.
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that's because she DOESN'T know how to design and she is taking all this really old public domain crap and trying to pass it off as "vintage" scrapping stuff but yea i'm like you, I can't see actually USING any of it and I have to wonder if her sales are anywhere what they used to be?
June 29, 2008 4:27 PM
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I'm glad you are saying it out loud! So, does she takes Dover images, juste recolore them and pass them as her own? She is NOT a designer! She is just laughing at people because it takes her a few hours to came up with a product and hundreds of people buy it.
looks like Rachel Young is going to SBG
http://www.scrapbookgraphics.com/xcart/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=51
June 29, 2008 8:56 PM
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Oh please Rachel, NO MORE BLURRY TIN FOIL ELEMENTS PLEASE!
Ooooh here's a chunk of ACTUAL gossip. Ashley Olson is back selling, but is apparently not making new stuff. Guess she thinks enough time has passed for everyone to forget the way she shafted so many people with the Digishoppe scandal last year. I'm sure the resourceful types will find her new selling outlet.
Ashley Olson selling is not news. Anyone who has been around DST for a while knew this was going to happen at some point. It's what DST is for.
Designers can behave badly, pull off charity scams, pirate, and steal from people ala Ashley with TDS scandal, then they can whine, cry, make up some lame excuse, 'apologize', pretend to disappear for a while, start back to posting at DST, then appear at some new store. They will be welcomed back with open arms at DST, and anyone who dares to suggest that this type of behavior should not be tolerated will be soundly pounced upon by the ennablers and then lots of references to being a good Christian will be made.
Just tell us where Ashley is selling...I come to the smack blogs for the gossip, not clues to the gossip.
Holliewood is gonna be selling there too:
http://www.scrapbookgraphics.com/xcart/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=50
Here's Ashley's Ad on DST, apparently, she's selling on payloadz.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=131100
These are all her (Ash) posts on DST:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/search.php?searchid=885441
Did Christina Renee have a new team call? I saw the announcement of her team members, but I missed the call. Was it advertised anywhere? or were her old team members that were worthy just brought back?
Just reposting this here:
Ashley Olson is me, and the Digi Shoppe scandal is referring to when the store suddenly was shut down due to an irresponsible oversight by myself which left many wonderful designers without a store very suddenly and then without a paycheck for many months. This was also due to being irresponsible, all of which I did own up to publicly at DST.
Anyway, I do not have plans to make anything new and I do not have plans to sell in any stores because I have moved on to other things. However, I have missed posting and so I'm posting again. As for selling my stuff on Payloads, that will be a very temporary thing (until July 15th) simply to help get a little cash to put a deposit on a new apartment. That's all that happening with that.
I did pay my designers and it did take a long time. I'm certainly not proud of it but it is what it is and I can't undo it. It's something that will always tarnish my name in this community and I'm very ashamed of that. It was not easy to start posting again. But I'm done hiding out and I think that since I have paid what I owed I have every right to step back into the community again. I do not and would not expect everyone to welcome me with open arms, so if you choose to ignore me that is fine. If you hate me, that's fine. I can deal with it. There are only a few people that I really let down in all of this that I truly care about. They are the friendships I lost because of my own stupidity. I'm a woman who made a big mistake and learned a lot from it and is still dealing with the effects of it.
Anyway, smack away :) It doesn't matter to me. I was wondering how long it would take before I was mentioned over here anyway!
Jesus, is no place safe from Ashley Olson????
Let's get back to something interesting. Any news on who made Rose Farver's team yet?
DID Christina Renee have a call b4 she announced her new team? I'm with whoever said that I just like being able to enjoy her stuff, but I was surprised to see her announce a new team so soon after saying that she needed a break from having a CT. What gives?
And none of her former CTs ever chimed back in with HOW or WHAT she does that's so pushy and overbearing. Not to mention all the hints at drama, digging for dirt, or being mean?????
looks like Rachel Young is going to SBG
http://www.scrapbookgraphics.com/xcart/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=51
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Oh gee, I wonder where this comes from
What happened to FPD anyway? It used to be a good place to shop. Not so much these days.
Wow, do these people think that scrappers out there have nothing else to do with their lives than to be a designer's goon?
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hahahah - well there are plenty of people willing to fill that role - esp if the designer has a 'name'
I just can't bring myself to demand that my team jump through hoops - I mean spending a couple hours on a layout more than pays for any free product they got.
Hey re: Laurie Anderson
She is a really nice person. While I agree a pm to Natali would have been wiser I have to say she's never come off as anything but very gracious and humble.
I mean if someone scraplifted your LO & didn't credit you and people were fawning over it wouldn't you get a little ticked?
Hey re: Laurie Anderson
She is a really nice person. While I agree a pm to Natali would have been wiser I have to say she's never come off as anything but very gracious and humble.
I mean if someone scraplifted your LO & didn't credit you and people were fawning over it wouldn't you get a little ticked?
June 30, 2008 6:38 PM
@@ Yeah, that public smack at Natali was just dripping with gracious and humble. And so was her oh-so snarky and bitchy comment on Natali's scraplift demanding credit nine months later. I can so see that she must be just the sweetest person evah. (gag)
To answer the scraplift question, um no I couldn't care less if someone scraplifted me. I don't give a crap about how many compliments my LOs get vs. someone else's. I'm not stupid enough to think that any.little.bit of the fawning that goes on over at DST is genuine or sincere or makes my scrapping any more or less valid than anyone else's. Apparently Laurie is.
It is what it is.
And none of her former CTs ever chimed back in with HOW or WHAT she does that's so pushy and overbearing. Not to mention all the hints at drama, digging for dirt, or being mean?????
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that's because if I give specifics she could find out who I am and I don't want that bitch around me EVER again. She's snarky, mean , vindictive, not to mention just plain CRAZY.
I call bullshit.
Put up or shut up. All the wild accusations with nothing to back them up are beyond silly.
You just sound like a crazy CRD hater (think Sarah and Nathy) when you say stuff like this, and it just makes you very unbelievable.
that's because if I give specifics she could find out who I am and I don't want that bitch around me EVER again. She's snarky, mean , vindictive, not to mention just plain CRAZY.
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So nice I am not the only one that feels this way. You just gotta get to know her, then you will see. If you are just the public looking in you would not understand. I would just say she is the epitome of the high school popularity/immaturity that some of us don't like in the digital world. If you like that way of thinking, which I would say a lot suprisingly do, then you will like CR. She is a DST babe, which alone tells a lot about her as well. I personally cannot stomach the place, nor her as well. But there are a lot that love DST and types like her so, hey - to each her own.
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I call bullshit.
Put up or shut up. All the wild accusations with nothing to back them up are beyond silly.
You just sound like a crazy CRD hater (think Sarah and Nathy) when you say stuff like this, and it just makes you very unbelievable.
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Believe what you want - on an anonymous blog that is all you can do. Only those that have worked with her will know and relate. I would not say anyone is putting out wild accusations about her, that is a little extreme. No one is saying she has done anything dishonest or accusing her of any major wrongdoing, or even that we hate her. (So, no, we are not Nathy CR-haters, or however you put it). Just that she is very hard to work with, filled with drama, expects a ridiculous LOT out of you, and if you are not her FAVORITE designer and shun all others, then you are OUT. To me, the fact that she goes through CT's like a baby goes through diapers speaks volumes.. and tells me alone that no one can work with her very long.
I personally know girls that have been hurt by her and they nor I will not work with her anymore. Call it crazy artsy type, whatever you will, but it isn't the type of influence I want in my life, so I have chosen to stay away from that.
If you want to know for yourself, then go hang at CRD - no even better, join her CT.. and it will all be made very plain to you very soon, lol... If you are the groveling CT type that lifts designers up on a pedestal and thinks of nothing else in your life but scrapping and promoting your designer in every way, then you may be a very good fit :)
On the CRD note, I can't be the only customer that was treated like shit by her, there have to be more of you out there. So it's not only CT members. For all of your CRD lovers, I'll never buy from her again. Not only is her new stuff fugly, but her customer service sucks. I bought quite a few things, found a major mistake in one of the items. I e-mailed her three times over almost a two-week period before I had a response. My response was "sorry bout that, but a corrected copy was sent to everyone who purchased the product. Don't know why you wouldn't have gotten it." But she didn't send me the corrected copy. I emailed her again. Several days later I get an e-mail with a file. The same file I already have with the same mistake. I e-mail yet again. Several days later I get an oops with the mistake fixed. So three weeks to get something fixed, feeling like I've been chastised because I didn't get the corrected copy that was sent out to everyone that purchased the product. The whole tone of her e-mails was just snarky. I haven't spent a dime on her stuff since then and won't again. Hell I didn't even dl the free kit at DST because I just thought it was fugly.
So bottom line, after that long post of mine, it's not just CT members she treats like crap, some customers get treated like shit too.
what is the point of a I hate being scraplifted thread if you are going to say "shame on you" to the person who calls foul?
It's okay to say hey I hate when "she who shall not be named" scraplifted me/got pub'd/rec'd accolades from a site/won a contest. But wrong to actually point to the offender?
So we blindly point at an Anonymous offender and that is okay? Pretty passive aggressive if you ask me.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=131896
wonder how many of those she will actually Sell. C'mon who is she KIDDING? What part of that was designed by her?
11:04 - I know what you mean. I haven't been on her CT, but I've experienced her [lack of] customer service and I have not bought from her since. She has no follow-through.
Oh wow - she has a new coloring book!! LMAO
what is the point of a I hate being scraplifted thread if you are going to say "shame on you" to the person who calls foul?
It's okay to say hey I hate when "she who shall not be named" scraplifted me/got pub'd/rec'd accolades from a site/won a contest. But wrong to actually point to the offender?
So we blindly point at an Anonymous offender and that is okay? Pretty passive aggressive if you ask me.
July 1, 2008 12:32 PM
Um, hello? Did you even READ that thread? There were plenty of people who thought the whole thread was silly. 99% of the people who replied said that they didn't mind being scraplifted. Most people said that they just wanted to be credited. The OP in that thread was not even talking about the average scraplift. She was talking about EXACT copies.
Laurie just came in at the end, and tried to publicly humiliate Natali. Well, it backfired on her and she came off looking like an insecure, snarky bitch.
It wasn't necessary. She had already left a comment on Natali's scraplifted LO 9 freakin' months later demanding to be credited!
When you make a mistake and someone calls it to your attention, how do like for it to be handled? Do you like to be held up for public ridicule while someone points to you and shouts "DON'T DO THIS!" or "DON'T BE LIKE HER!" or would you prefer for someone to take you aside privately and explain what the problem is and how you can fix it?
Laurie could have handled this with some class and tact (a private message). She chose to show her ass. It was her choice and she's just going to have to live with the fallout.
And as for the 'passive aggressive' comment, um, have you been at DST long? DST is all.about passive aggressive underneath that bright, painted-on smile. And why assume that anyone here was participating in that thread? Were there any comments here about scraplifting? Nope, only about Laurie's behavior. IMO, her tizzy fit was plenty smackworthy.
What is it with SA lately? There's so much attitude coming from people there recently. Some of the rudest public behavior in months has been from their CT and designers. Six months ago I would have bet money that they would be one of the last stores with such unprofessional behavior.
What is it with SA lately? There's so much attitude coming from people there recently. Some of the rudest public behavior in months has been from their CT and designers.
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Oh please! There have two instances that you are referring to. TWO!! And they were by people expressing their own opinion that in all likelihood was not condoned by the store.
Compare that to other stores.
And anyway, what has a person's personal comment have to do with whether or not I like the designs in a store? I don't care what people say, if I like something I will buy it!
Onescrappymom IS THE WORST PIRATE EVER. SHE SHOULD STOP DESIGNING AND STOP POSTING AT DST.
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well, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and I happen to agree with the one that you pounced on.
In your haste to run to SA's defense, you made some serious assumptions. No one said they weren't shopping there, just surprised by the piss-poor attitudes.
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=131896
wonder how many of those she will actually Sell. C'mon who is she KIDDING? What part of that was designed by her?
July 1, 2008 2:04 PM
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She will sell to all these suckers who replied to her thread.
SA sucks. It's been going downhill for a while now. The one or two decent designers left need to jump off the sinking ship.
Why would someone who buys those trees be a sucker? I find that comment just silliness.
A sucker is someone who is unwillingly duped into purchasing or participating in something.
She advertised trees. She has pictured trees. Trees they are. So, if I buy them, I get trees.
Does anyone really care if they are hand painted by her. Probably not. Do they care that they would make a rocking background for a child's poem or tender childhood story. Yes. Would they then be worth the money? Yes.
Sucker? Not so much.
SA sucks? Define sucks, please.
sucks=rather lame or crappy
Yeah, okay TREES. It's a background, I could see some uses for it; but I can't see why anyone is gushing over her about it. She didn't do anything much, it's just some more of her "public domain" stuff that anyone can find if they do a google search. Of course, DST isn't about anything much anymore than kissing butt and those that are gushing are doing just that.
What I don't get in the whole CR debate is those who say that she's mean and wants dirt on other designers. She helped lots of designers get noticed when they started-Amy Hutchison (ah!) and Hollie H. (Holliewood) just to name two. They were on her first CT and she gave them lots of attention when they debuted as designers. How is that mean or nasty?
If she's so jealous of other designers and any attention that they get why would she have ever put any designers on her CTs?
Just wondering what the basis is for all the 'CR is mean and nasty' rumors. Is there really anything to them?
Laurie just came in at the end, and tried to publicly humiliate Natali. Well, it backfired on her and she came off looking like an insecure, snarky bitch.
It wasn't necessary. She had already left a comment on Natali's scraplifted LO 9 freakin' months later demanding to be credited!
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OK, I've had it with the Laurie bashing...maybe she didn't SEE the layout till 9 months later. She praised the LO and politely requested that Natalie please credit her for the scraplift.
For the people dragging her through the mud I wouldn't feel so high and mighty - I can't see Laurie ever visiting a smack blog to rip someone apart so why do you think you are so stinkin superior?
Frankly I thought it was bad judgement for her to post the example in the thread but I still consider her a decent human being.
Now Special K was a different story - she went on her blog and posted about how the people challenging her were b*ches.
But if you read that thread you can see that most of the SA people posting about the outage bent over backward to be polite and accomodating.
Honestly some of the people on this thread are acting like a bunch of starving pirahnas fighting over scraps.
Laurie's a bitch and so are you.
Laurie's a bitch and so are you.
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Yeah well think about this - Laurie could have got on a smack blog and trash talked Natalie just like you are trash talking people right here and now. But she at least posted out in the open using her own name.
Think about it. Why don't you post YOUR snarky comments at DST so people can rip YOU apart on gossip blogs?
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Why does it bother you so much if someone takes a dislike to Laurie based on something that Laurie herself did?
She can take care of herself can't she?
I wonder if you would be Laurie-bashing if it wasn't Vendula (Natali Design) who scraplifted without credit.
Not only did she scraplift without credit (she posted a comment that she wanted to lift the layout and came out with her lift 7 days later), Vendula's page was featured in a scraplift contest and she never once gave credit to the original. Even after lots of comments about how great her design was.
Maybe Laurie didn't use the best judgment in making her post, but if there is nothing wrong with scraplifting without credit, then what's the big deal. And if there is something wrong about lifting without credit, then Vendula, who is a designer, should know better about taking credit for something she didn't design.
You can be sure that if anyone lifted one of Vendula's pages without giving credit, they would be bashed at DST and here for their audacity.
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You are just ridiculous. I don't own ONE Natali designs product-her stuff is so not my style. I did, however, previously buy from Laurie. Never again.
As for all the contest drivel, you seem to have me confused with someone who gives a crap about contests, comments, or compliments. I like my LOs and that's all that matters to me. I don't waste my time seeking the praise of people online.
IF Laurie really did come up with the original design concept of that LO, she just needs to learn to how to be happy with herself and her scrapping and move on.
She screwed the pooch and nothing's going to change that.
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