I always find it interesting to note which topics of conversation generate the blog spam. There are some regulars around digi land that are frequently mentioned here. I think they have given up the battle. They know eventually the topic will turn and it will be on to something else. Admittedly, I am not active around the "community" but I have been hosting the blog for awhile now and have noticed some trends.
Watch out when the blog bitches find a new target. They keep picking, they Google, they dig, they hunt IP's, they search other message boards, they jump in the way back machine and remind all of indiscretions of yesteryear.
The blog target virgins pick up the bat phone. Put out a virtual call for back up send the blog link to all. Their friends will try to defend, try to call everyone out for being anonymous. It gets nasty. They can't win against the blog bitches. So then they try diversionary tactics, attempt to change the subject to some other digi crime in recent memory. When that doesn't work, they resort to spam. Song lyrics, in multiple languages, middle school trash talk. Anything to bury the previous threads of conversation.
And don't forget about the Pearl clutching handslappers. You know, the ones that just want everyone to get along and sing Kum Bay Yah. The ones that scold people for posting, and wasting their time reading this internet trash, all while offering helpful alternate suggestions for spending time. You know, like watching kids, cooking dinner for your husband, reading the bible.
And the Lurkers, that stop by for entertainment value.
Which category are you?
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1552 Newer› Newest»I don't like Txmusicmom or her politics. She's not nice, she gets passes for behaviour that others don't. I can like people I don't agree with or that have opposing views, but she's not one of them.
Txmusicmom is a pompous, bigoted, hypocrite. It's too bad she didn't stay gone--DST certainly would have been a better place without her.
To the Lee defenders who have their feathers all ruffled:
Anyone could do a better job running DST than Shannon did.
But maybe instead of selling out to someone who's looking to build some kind of internet conglomerate, she could have sold to someone like Ripal who actually cared about scrapping. I guess the greed won out. Not surprising, but still disappointing.
One look at that guy's bio tells you all he's interested in: buying up sites and jacking up ad prices. While there's nothing wrong with profit, it would sure be nice to have someone who actually cares about scrapping or the community, since that's what the site was supposed to be about.
6:18 is right. The thundercunt that you're thinking of is Traci Murphy. She was one of the original designer divas who stirred up a ton of shit from the get go at DST.
I wonder if something happened to Shannon that precluded the sale of DST? I have to say its weird that she didn't come forward to announce the sale - but her husband. Its like she just vanished a long time ago and he has been trying to manage it.
As far as judging the new owner - please get a grip. You know nothing about him or his business management skills. And how does this impact you anyway? So what if it doesn't work and the site fails? Its not the end of the world - there other places to hang out.
I would think it nice to put good energy around it - maybe it can be built up to a place of respect again with fun.
Either way, I am not losing sleep over it. I just wish Eric and Shannon the best and hope everything is okay with their family.
I have to say its weird that she didn't come forward to announce the sale - but her husband. Its like she just vanished a long time ago and he has been trying to manage it.
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Maybe she really did leave.
But what business is it of yours? It doesn't affect you at all.
Does anyone visit myscrapbookart any more? I think I hung out for a week. Total.
LOL @ thundercunt. My new favorite word.
Kinder? You mean she doesn't express herself as well, don't you?
She's not kinder.
Oh gosh, I remember Traci Reed. She is an idiot who also thinks her shit doesnt stink. Big copycat! More than anything she caught an attitude with me once. ONCE! She's a huge racist and that's where my issue with her stems.
I wonder if something happened to Shannon that precluded the sale of DST? I have to say its weird that she didn't come forward to announce the sale - but her husband. Its like she just vanished a long time ago and he has been trying to manage it.
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Nothing happened except she lost interest in DST. She's been active on FB and Flickr.
If you're going to spam us with your crap you could at least type in ENGLISH ........... IDIOT!
Nothing happened except she lost interest in DST. She's been active on FB and Flickr.
February 27, 2010 9:46 PM
This is the crux of the problem in digi. No professionalism.
If she lost interest in her BUSINESS, then she needed to sell it or turn it over to someone who did give a crap. Shannon's just another SAHM who thought an online business would be easy, effortless money. When she realized it would be work, she just abandoned it and dumped it in her husband's lap. People like her are a huge part of the reason why women get such crap in the business world. It's hard to take women seriously when so many of them cut and run and play the mommy/family card at the first sign of hard work.
Nothing wrong with family being your priority, but then get a job that's conducive to that--don't expect to have it both ways just because you're a girl.
She recognized it, gave it over to her dh, and when it was more than he wanted, they sold it.
What, your decisions are always right, 100% of the time? She doesn't owe the digi world anything. Her first priority is apparently her family--how refreshing.
Yes, they could have handled it better, been more open, sold it to Ripal, etc. But it's their business, and if you are so disgusted with their unprofessionalism, you are free to start your own site and stay away from DST.
Grow up. The whiney bitching is getting old. You are entitled to your own opinion, and I am entitled to think you are a stupid baby.
Sometimes I wonder if designers realize how detrimental obnoxious CT members can be. There aren't many CT layouts that have caused me to buy a kit I didn't already have my eye on, but rabid, bitchy CT members have sure made me stop buying from more than 1 designer.
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CT layouts don't entice me at all. They are entirely too CTish, and not something I would add to my albums. What actually inspires me are layouts done by everyday scrappers like myself. Like vacations, birthday's or everyday events.
^^ How do you define a CT layout?? Every layout I did while working as a CTM ended up in my photo books. I covered everyday moments, birthdays, month in review, some "Me" pages, but also used just the kit in question. Still a CT layout.
Admittedly, I didn't "gallery bomb" with them, usually just posting to my designer's Flickr and Facebook groups (I actually gave up on posting at digi sites) so I may not be the typical CTM, I know that much.
I'm on a CT but my layouts are just "for me" as they were before I was on a CT. I still scrap as I always have - layouts to preserve my family history. All of the gals on the team do so too. I don't know what you mean by "CT'ish"?? If you mean total fantasy with no personal photos or layouts using stock photos of unknown people then I would agree that they are "CT'ish".
I think the most influential CT layouts these days are those sent via email for new product releases. I don't look through the galleries, and would rather have the designer sell me something (supported by CT layouts included in the email) than CT members bombarding the message boards and galleries.
I'm on a CT but my layouts are just "for me" as they were before I was on a CT. I still scrap as I always have - layouts to preserve my family history. All of the gals on the team do so too. I don't know what you mean by "CT'ish"?? If you mean total fantasy with no personal photos or layouts using stock photos of unknown people then I would agree that they are "CT'ish".
There are a lot of CT members that are big on clustering everything in a kit (non-fantasy) around a singular photo (usually of their kid) and maybe a one-word title. Sure, do that once in a while... but if you do it all the time, the layouts get tired looking and not unique.
I bet neither Shannon or her husband ever imagined DST would become the way station for social dysfunction that it did. She seemed nice enough. Perhaps too nice for the cattiness of that crowd.
I would have more respect for both of them had they bothered to notify their advertisers & subscriber membership of the upcoming change. How about a letter of thanks and farewell? After all, the money they made came from the very community they cashed out on. Contrary to some snide response to someone's comment up a bit, what happens to a company I have invested my money in is indeed my business.
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I agree. I remember asking if subscriber members and the advertisers had been notified and they hadn't, which seemed pretty lame to me.
I think a lot of people left when Hot Topics become a permanent thing. If you look at Shannon's profile, you'll see that she was part of a group ignoring the political sub forum. Why keep it? The other reason was when the Happy Place become nothing more than an unpaid advertising place.
CT layouts don't entice me at all. They are entirely too CTish, and not something I would add to my albums. What actually inspires me are layouts done by everyday scrappers like myself. Like vacations, birthday's or everyday events.
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An "everyday scrapper"? As apposed to what? A CT scrapper? I am on CT's but I consider myself an everyday scrapper. I'm not mocking, I sincerely want to know what you mean.
Who are your favorite "everyday scrappers"? Examples?
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Really? Favorite scrappers, -eye roll- what do you think this is?
Wow. What happened to this community! When did we become so cynical and mean? When I first started digi (a long time ago) everyone was so encouraging and sweet and uplifting. Now, you mention that you like someone's work and you must be up to something, or kissing ass, or you offend someone.
Speaking of favorite scrapers, why are we always bashing designers on here. Wouldn't it be fun to bash some layouts once in a while like the old Scrap Smack Blog. Now THAT was fun!
--Mean and Cynical Scrap Whore
(all in the name of fun, of course)
Wow. What happened to this community! When did we become so cynical and mean?
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Since when did this blog become the community?
There's always been mean and cynical people.
--Mean and Cynical Scrap Whore
(all in the name of fun, of course)
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All in the name of fun unless it's your layout, your cherished memories or YOUR children on the layout being smacked. You can call it fun, but what it actually is, is cruel and childish.
Wow. What happened to this community! When did we become so cynical and mean? When I first started digi (a long time ago) everyone was so encouraging and sweet and uplifting. Now, you mention that you like someone's work and you must be up to something, or kissing ass, or you offend someone.
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You are just hanging out in the wrong community. If you want nice, a smack blog is probably not the best place to be. There are still pleasant places to hang out where people are nice.
What "community"? The one that's full of cliques? The one where everyone plays games, puts on a front, and people are only allowed to say sunshiney, rosy things? No consumer opinions allowed unless they're glowing reviews? Designer worship only? That's what DST was/is for.
Maybe lots of people got tired of playing games. That's why blogs like this got started. DST isn't a true picture of the community, and neither are the smack blogs-they're both skewed one way.
Speaking of favorite scrapers, why are we always bashing designers on here. Wouldn't it be fun to bash some layouts once in a while like the old Scrap Smack Blog. Now THAT was fun!
--Mean and Cynical Scrap Whore
(all in the name of fun, of course)
March 1, 2010 12:12 AM
Blech. I don't think it's fun at all to bash other people's scrapping.
Designers and stores want my business-they're after my money. If I have a criticism, I can voice it. Especially if it's based on an experience where they've already gotten my money. No different than a comment card at Kroger or an online customer satisfaction survey. Since designers are so opposed to that type of thing in digi, there are smack blogs.
ITA. Many things have been handled unprofessionally. Especially the past year or so. DST didn't have to decline like it did.
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I would have more respect for both of them had they bothered to notify their advertisers & subscriber membership of the upcoming change. How about a letter of thanks and farewell? After all, the money they made came from the very community they cashed out on. Contrary to some snide response to someone's comment up a bit, what happens to a company I have invested my money in is indeed my business.
February 28, 2010 4:26 PM
Since designers are so opposed to that type of thing in digi, there are smack blogs.
March 1, 2010 6:14 PM
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Who says designers are opposed to that type of thing? None of the designers I know are opposed to it at all. Their concern is and always has been those people who would take advantage of it for their own purposes.
You girls just don't like Txmusicmom because of her politics, admit it. She's much kinder than Ruby ever was in HT.
Adding 50 smilies to every post does not equal kind.
txmusicmom is a idiot. point,blank,period. she is a sheep following a flock, a greedy bitch and an ignorant teacher.
Who bought FPD? I didn't hear a word since "we're closing" and now there's a designer call and a "new look".
txmusicmom acts like a racist pouty little 2 year old. Likes to preach & tell everyone how to act, feel and what to believe in and then pouts & cries foul when they don't agree with her or her warped thoughts. Or claims that what she said isn't really what she meant but when you follow her history of what she says, you know she is really full of BS.
I also have told many people I know in real life about this stupid person who posts online in a political form and that she is a teacher. I am SSSSooooooo glad that my children don't go to school where she teaches!
she teaches in a community college, i believe online biology classes. she's not teaching children.
txmusicmom is not a teacher. She supposedly teaches college stuff online. And homeschools her kids.
I'm calling BS on her teaching at the college level. She's way too stupid to be a certified teacher, much less the experience and education to be an actual college/university instructor. I'd bet huge money that she holds no certification whatsoever.
IF she really teaches anydamnthing online, it's for one of those cheesy, unaccredited bullshit schools where the "degrees" are w
orthless.
She's nothing but a crazy, "homeschooling" hypocritical zealot who is also a huge bigot.
She thinks she's being all sneaky and clever trying to disguise her prejudices and hate with her 50 smilies per post. Or the 'I didn't mean it that way' bullshit. mmkay. She's actually stupid enough to think that she's fooling people with that. She could be one of the poster children for everything that is wrong with the 'conservative movement.'
February 27, 2010 12:58 AM
hmmm but did she bake/make them herself??
such hypocrites on here LOL
I dont care but in any event it is just funny ...
biology!! its laughable! she does not have critical thinking skills to comprehend science. she probably thinks humans and dinosaurs roamed the earth together.
I was just looking at a blog. Question-- Is it me or do these pictures just look way too over photo-shopped? Or is that a natural picture and she really looks like that?
http://hollymccaigdesigns.com/journal/category/lollipop-smiles/
I mean to each his own but it makes me sad to see such a little girl so over-done. What happened to beautiful natural pictures? I dont know, maybe Im just not up on the times..maybe that's just a new trend I missed. I guess being much older than most in the community I'm old school. When I was a kid little girls didnt wear make-up or look so over done in this way. Reminds me of the little pageant girls, who by the way, now wear fake teeth too. WOW!
I think it would have been fine except for the eye makeup. That makes it go from cute to creepy.
I don't like it at all. Her skin looks plastic, makeup on a little girl is unnecessary, and that last picture is just creepy. Big thumbs-down from me.
Looks like too much processing in Photoshop. It's a shame, because if left alone, these shots wouldn't be so bad.
February 27, 2010 12:58 AM
hmmm but did she bake/make them herself??
such hypocrites on here LOL
I dont care but in any event it is just funny ...
March 3, 2010 8:55 AM
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I don't think hypocrite is the word you are looking for. I've never slammed anyone for copying so ....
I would hate to bust your bubbles, but that little girl is not wearing eye make up, she has naturally dark lashes. Yes, unbelievable, but there it is. Some girls are lucky that way.
However, they are over Photoshopped and I see a lot of it. People over brightening eyes, specially on children and babies and they end up looking like aliens.
If you read about the site, you would find out that it's SUPPOSED to look like that. Visit: http://www.lollipopsmiles.com/
It's her other business line with specific post processing.
no way, that kid is definitely wearing eyeliner. my daughter has naturally dark lashes, so I know some girls are lucky that way, but I've never seen a kid with natural eyeliner.
If you read about the site, you would find out that it's SUPPOSED to look like that. Visit: http://www.lollipopsmiles.com/
It's her other business line with specific post processing.
March 3, 2010 4:50 PM
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I did but I still don't like it. I know it's all HDR and that but it's not my thing.
no way, that kid is definitely wearing eyeliner. my daughter has naturally dark lashes, so I know some girls are lucky that way, but I've never seen a kid with natural eyeliner.
March 3, 2010 4:50 PM
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I'm just going by experience. I know a little girl who photographs exactly the same and she doesn't wear eyeliner in her photos. Everyone keeps asking her mom why she puts make up on her daugther, when she doesn't.
Check out the deer in Miss Shabby's new kit, Oh Deer. My eyes may be deceiving me, but that deer sure looks to be a replica of Bambi himself.
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A fawn is a fawn is a fawn. How the heck should it look?
It looks like a replica of Bambi if you are reaching for a comparison, but at first glance, it sure didn't remind me of Bambi and I only saw the DVD a few nights ago.
Check out the deer in Miss Shabby's new kit, Oh Deer. My eyes may be deceiving me, but that deer sure looks to be a replica of Bambi himself.
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Bambi HIMSELF? Whatever. Your really looking for anything here arent you. Nice try at stirring up shit. NOT
If you read about the site, you would find out that it's SUPPOSED to look like that. Visit: http://www.lollipopsmiles.com/
It's her other business line with specific post processing.
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I dont care what it says, it looks ridiculous. Some of the worst shit Ive ever seen. That poor kid looks so damn over-photshopped I could puke. Totally reminds me of child beauty pagents. Jeeze, why are people so into making little girls look so fake these days? Yuck. And speaking of Holly Mccaig, I wouldnt have my kids picture taken with her for all the fish in the sea. She is one scary bitch and Ive seen her attitude in action. She's an animal. Very unprofessional, which is probably why she owned and failed at 4-5 digi scrapbook shops.
It's eyeliner for sure! Why do people like to make CHILDREN grow up too fast? It's WRONG! Those are the sort of photos that attract paedophiles. I don't care if it was for "dress-ups" or not, that type of photo should never be posted on the net.
Those are the sort of photos that attract paedophiles. I
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Actually, they prefer their kids more natural looking, otherwise, they'd be into adults, wouldn't they? They like kids to look like kids, that's the point.
She is one scary bitch and Ive seen her attitude in action.
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Yeah, it's so different from the people in this blog, isn't it? Geez.
Actually, they prefer their kids more natural looking, otherwise, they'd be into adults, wouldn't they? They like kids to look like kids, that's the point.
March 3, 2010 11:48 PM
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Not necessarily. Not all paedophiles think and act the same.
Regardless, those photos are inappropriate for the child's age.
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How? There's nothing raunchy about them. I'm not getting the inappropriateness about them. They look like a kid being a kid.
Fun or not I think the shots are disgusting. She doesnt look like a little girl. Seems to me that the reason why girls look so different today is because they are already thinking it's normal to wear make-up at such a young age and to be photo shopped like they do to models that look this way in magazines. If I were that kids mother I would have them pulled asap. It's not even artistic to me. I would want my money back.
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I dont care what it says, it looks ridiculous. Some of the worst shit Ive ever seen. That poor kid looks so damn over-photshopped I could puke. Totally reminds me of child beauty pagents. Jeeze, why are people so into making little girls look so fake these days? Yuck. And speaking of Holly Mccaig, I wouldnt have my kids picture taken with her for all the fish in the sea. She is one scary bitch and Ive seen her attitude in action. She's an animal. Very unprofessional, which is probably why she owned and failed at 4-5 digi scrapbook shops.[/i]
I'm not a fan of lollipop smiles style, but her photography is amazing. She's not unprofessional, she's just very business minded. It's called good business sense, which is why she opened and SOLD so many stores. Her first one, TDC is still one of the most well established stores.
She owns her own photography studio and owns Pink Ink Studios.
I'm not saying she's sweet as pie, just saying she is very professional, and not all kissy kissy try to get my customers to want to be me, like some designers are. I was once of the opinion that she was a rude bitch, but she's really not.
Traci Reed's new kit has real Goldfish crackers in it. Aren't those like copyrighted?
February 26, 2010 11:11 PM
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Nope. Check out the stock photo sites and a lot of them seem to have goldfish crackers.
February 27, 2010 12:58 AM
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That's the stupidest answer ever! Most stock photo sites HAVE copyrighted issues. You can't rely on them. Geez!
All the non US people are freaking out because they're using the spelling, "paedophiles" as opposed to "pedophiles."
hey ladies - is it just me or have you noticed more new members introducing themselves in the scrap talk section of DST? I've never noticed too many people coming on and saying I'm new here, where's a good place to shop etc etc. Seems like there have been quite a few since DST changed hands. Wonder if we're upping the membership with some of Lee's friends?
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All the non US people are freaking out because they're using the spelling, "paedophiles" as opposed to "pedophiles."
March 4, 2010 3:46 PM
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What the fuck are you talking about? I don't see anyone but YOU commenting on the spelling. How do you conclude that "the NON US people" are freaking out?? Does it really matter? How it's spelled? People knew what was meant.
And how do you know where someone comes from by their spelling? What makes you think some non US people don't spell american on this blog and some US people spell british english on this blog? Easy enough to do if you want to make people think you are/aren't american.
Fun or not I think the shots are disgusting. She doesnt look like a little girl. Seems to me that the reason why girls look so different today is because they are already thinking it's normal to wear make-up at such a young age and to be photo shopped like they do to models that look this way in magazines. If I were that kids mother I would have them pulled asap. It's not even artistic to me. I would want my money back.
March 4, 2010 7:15 AM
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They were a shoot for a friend, so no money exchanged. She looks like a little girl to me. It's not my thing, but she still looks like a little girl having fun.
I still don't get the freaking out that is going on about those photos. One reason I can think of though is that people just like to bitch about Holly.
I don't care who took those pics. They are not nice.
Not nice is ok, but to say disgusting is going too far. They are not disgusting.
Those pictures are awfully tacky. That over-processing is garish. The only people who seem to go for that are the sheeples who mindlessly follow any 'trend,' no matter how stupid it is.
The kid looks like a wax museum figure in those photos. That's sad, b/c I bet she's a really pretty little girl IRL.
Who the heck is 'Miss Shabby?'
Shabby Miss Jenn? Shabby Princess? or another shabby?
SA took on Traci Murphy and it looks like Corina will follow.
Thoughts?
Who the hell owns Shabby Pickles now? Holly?
February 18, 2010 4:59 PM
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Looks like Laura still owns it. Maybe Holly was just doing the redesign?
Not nice is ok, but to say disgusting is going too far. They are not disgusting.
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D-I-S-G-U-S-T-I-N-G period.
SA took on Traci Murphy and it looks like Corina will follow.
Thoughts?
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Good jeezus! I will never shop at SA again as long as the two of them are there. Why Nancie took either on is beside me. I know this though..if nancie doesnt open her eyes both Corina and Tracy will try and run the show with their Im-better-than-you attitude. I worked for them and the experience was terrible. They have a separate agenda. Not one iota of caring about them for the people they brought on. They are both self-centered, greedy and stuck up.
Am I the only one who deletes blinkie files, "no piracy" files, detailed previews, url links and even CT LOs from the kits I buy? Why do designers think I would keep them anyway? I keep the tou document and that's enough...
Just wondering: when a designer put the classic "no piracy" jpeg image on a kit, aren't she violating the copyright? WHo created that first?
Just wondering: when a designer put the classic "no piracy" jpeg image on a kit, aren't she violating the copyright? WHo created that first?
March 5, 2010 12:10
The person who created the most used no piracy image offered them up for all other designers to use from Jen Strange's no piracy site. Quit trying to stir up more controversy. Sheesh you idiots will grab at anything!
I know this though..if nancie doesnt open her eyes both Corina and Tracy will try and run the show with their Im-better-than-you attitude. I worked for them and the experience was terrible. They have a separate agenda. Not one iota of caring about them for the people they brought on. They are both self-centered, greedy and stuck up.
March 5, 2010 9:38 AM
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Agree.
Not nice is ok, but to say disgusting is going too far. They are not disgusting.
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D-I-S-G-U-S-T-I-N-G period.
March 5, 2010 9:34 AM
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How? I really want to know.
They are both self-centered, greedy and stuck up.
March 5, 2010 9:38 AM
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I've had dealings with both Traci and Corina. I didn't mind Corina, but Traci seemed a bit childish.
Oh brother. All the secrecy about Ruby Rynne's new store and it's Plain Digital Wrapper??? Seriously??? That was worth all the build up??? Is that the best she could do??? Puh-leeeze
I had the same thought! And does anyone else think it's weird how people "need" Ruby, and can't wait until her new store opens? I don't get it. If you can't wait, just buy a victorian children Dover book and you should be set for life. Oh, and don't forget to throw in a creepy doodled doll that doesn't match anything else when you make your layouts.
For the record, there wasn't any buildup, and there wasn't any secrecy involved. Nobody knew whether I was opening a new store, and if I was where, because until a week ago I didn't know either.
Take it or leave it, that's how it is.
Oh brother. All the secrecy about Ruby Rynne's new store and it's Plain Digital Wrapper??? Seriously??? That was worth all the build up??? Is that the best she could do??? Puh-leeeze
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March 6, 2010 10:18 AM
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I had the same thought! And does anyone else think it's weird how people "need" Ruby, and can't wait until her new store opens? I don't get it. If you can't wait, just buy a victorian children Dover book and you should be set for life. Oh, and don't forget to throw in a creepy doodled doll that doesn't match anything else when you make your layouts.
March 6, 2010 11:28 AM
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WTF are you two talking about?
What build up? What secrecy? And what need? I saw a few people asking and you lot try and turn into some kind of drama. You really are smack junkies, aren't you?
I haven't heard any build-up regarding Ruby's next move. However, how many customers are going to follow her to yet another store? This is the 4th one in a year. I have gotten tired of the store hopping by some designers, and I really don't feel like joining up with more stores just to buy from them. I have decided that I'm going to stick to the stores I'm already signed up with and buy from on a regular basis. Its not worth spreading my info all over the place to follow a few designers around. Nothing against Ruby specifically, she's certainly not the only designer to store hop.
Take it or leave it, that's how it is.
March 6, 2010 11:53 AM
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I'll leave it, thanks.
The new owner of FPD is just as stuck up as the last 2 IMO
Stuck up? What the heck does that mean? From an adult view that is. The only people I know who use that phrase are kids.
So who is the new owner of FPD?
I think some designers are moving around in the hopes of finding customers.
So who is the new owner of FPD?
March 7, 2010 6:19 PM
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I think it's Michelle Batton.
Where is everybody?
Because clicking on "newest" doesn't work properly, people might not be seeing the latest posts.
It's been too nice here in the US to stay inside. Everyone is away from the computer and getting fresh air before the rain comes.
I doubt it. There's just nothing to gossip about.
Plain Digital Wrapper sure seems like a step down from Scrapbook Graphics.
I'm also done following designers around. The store hopping is beyond ridiculous. Very unprofessional.
I'm also done following designers around. The store hopping is beyond ridiculous. Very unprofessional.
March 9, 2010 5:21 PM
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Ditto, store hopping is not going to improve your sales people, the US economy is crap, and the market is over saturated, the only way to make sales it be the best you can be and do your best at marketing.
The good news, at least the wannabe designers may realize that it is not as easy a buck as they thought and give up. Making the market a bit more profitable for the rest of us who know it is not a quick easy buck and are prepared to work hard.
I'm also done following designers around. The store hopping is beyond ridiculous. Very unprofessional.
March 9, 2010 5:21 PM
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Ditto, store hopping is not going to improve your sales people, the US economy is crap, and the market is over saturated, the only way to make sales it be the best you can be and do your best at marketing.
The good news, at least the wannabe designers may realize that it is not as easy a buck as they thought and give up. Making the market a bit more profitable for the rest of us who know it is not a quick easy buck and are prepared to work hard.
Plain Digital Wrapper sure seems like a step down from Scrapbook Graphics.
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How so? SBG has been going down hill for a long time, in my opinion. I just see it as a step side wise. SBG is more trendy, but it doesn't make it better.
Ditto, store hopping is not going to improve your sales people, the US economy is crap, and the market is over saturated, the only way to make sales it be the best you can be and do your best at marketing.
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It's a lot of work to market your product and even then - no one buys it,what with all the freebies on the net and the giveaways.
It's a lot of work to market your product and even then - no one buys it,what with all the freebies on the net and the giveaways.
March 9, 2010 10:04 PM
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There might just be a reason no one buys it.......Just saying..
A good reputation takes a long time to build and can be ruined easily.
If you are relatively new, and your work does not jump right of the screen out at someone, they are more likely to buy tried and true than an unknown that they are not sure about.
Did Ripal ever make an offer to buy DST or did she just want to? If she did make an offer, could it even come close to matching what the new guy paid?
If DST was indeed sold so Shannon and Eric could spend more time with their family, why wouldn't they try to get the most that they could?
Let's not pretend that any of us would do any differently.
idea for new thread...
i'm getting disgusted with the new "designers" and some not so new, photographing and extracting chinese, dollar store items. And to go further, extracting more recent products and then selling them.
How about a new thread to show the items in question and discuss them before more designers have to pull back their items because of copyright issues, whether known or not....
what does "extracting more recent items" mean exactly?
Anyway, that's an old and tired subject.
I am sooo over the over saturated over extracted realistic element trend. It is just plain ugly and always looks out of place in a scrapbook kit. I don't get the fascination with it. I would much prefer designer created art work than ugly scans and poorly photographed and extracted elements. 90% of those extracted elements are poorly lit, have over exposed bits as well as blurry bits and look just plain awful.
Give me hand created work anyday.
I don't mind real elements as long as they are done well. But as you said, most of them are just awful.
I love scrapping with real elements, as long as the edges are clean and there aren't any jaggies. That isn't a trend, it's here to stay.
I love scrapping with real elements, as long as the edges are clean and there aren't any jaggies. That isn't a trend, it's here to stay.
March 10, 2010 10:03 PM
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Gawd I hope not, they are AWFUL! I think people are starting to realize that most are crappy.
They are total crap. Think about paper scrapping for a minute........ do you see "photos" of items in paper scrapping stores? I don't think so. I don't know why people need "real" items on their scrap pages. If you want "real" items, use your own photos and keep the decorating to "digital" items. It IS DIGITAL SCRAPPING afterall.
Why should I think about paper scrapping? I don't give a damn what they are doing in paper scrapping. If I wanted my pages to look like paper pages, I'd do paper scrapping.
do you see "photos" of items in paper scrapping stores? I don't think so.
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Yes, I do. They have stickers and papers that are photos of real things. They have dried flowers. Think a little harder next time.
They are total crap. Think about paper scrapping for a minute........ do you see "photos" of items in paper scrapping stores? I don't think so. I don't know why people need "real" items on their scrap pages. If you want "real" items, use your own photos and keep the decorating to "digital" items. It IS DIGITAL SCRAPPING afterall.
March 10, 2010 10:47 PM
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ROFLMMFAO. Another self-appointed expert setting out to dictate how everyone else scraps.
Thanks for the reminder.
However, since I never was a paper scrapper, would you tell me why I'd ever give two fucks what a paper scrapper finds in a a paper scrapping store?
Stay in your own box but don't try to shove everyone else in it as well.
LOL I knew I'd get a reaction. Just what I wanted. This place needed livening up and you bit the bait LOL
LOL I knew I'd get a reaction. This place needed livening up and you took the bait LOL
LOL I knew I'd get a reaction. This place needed livening up and you took the bait. LOL
Why aren't posts showing up?
They are, you need to wait. It's called patience.
Well I used to be a paper scrapper and there's no way I want my digital layouts to look like the old days when cutting scraps of colored paper behind the photo was considered a mat or a cardstock frame was the be all and end all. Now I can put a frame around my photos that actually looks like a frame!
When I show my printed layouts to traditional scrappers they go nuts. They want to know how to do it and where to get the supplies.
I think it is safe to say that Holly was not happy with the posts about her on here....I think she has a right to be pissed also. I don't know though whether I would have addressed it the way she did. You have to give her credit for having a sense of humor and a healthy amount of attitude to go with it! I have bought from her and will again.
I think it is safe to say that Holly was not happy with the posts about her on here....I think she has a right to be pissed also. I don't know though whether I would have addressed it the way she did. You have to give her credit for having a sense of humor and a healthy amount of attitude to go with it! I have bought from her and will again.
March 11, 2010 9:17 PM
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Kudos on the randomness. Your point was?
Anyhoo...What do you think of this GSO find? It appears as though she scrapped a picture of a boy picking his nose. At least it's not his butt. Maybe she's saving that for tomorrow's GSO? I can just see the comments. "LOOK AT THIS AMAZING PICTURE! BEAUTIFUL!!!"
http://www.digishoptalk.com/gallery/data/500/ThinkOfYou-ON.jpg
I think it is safe to say that Holly was not happy with the posts about her on here....I think she has a right to be pissed also.
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Which Holly are you talking about? Holly at SDP or Hollie of Holliewood Studios or Holly McCaig?
Anyhoo...What do you think of this GSO find? It appears as though she scrapped a picture of a boy picking his nose.
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It's an every day moment. What's wrong with that? It's not all birthday parties and perfectness.
It's just another stupid layout with no information at all. What's the point of it if it has no title and no journaling anyway? In years to come nobody will know that it was their great great grandfather who was the dirty little nose picker. She could at least have included the kids name and maybe the name her family uses for nasal mucus - oysters, boogers, boogies, snot, goobies etc and maybe the terms they use for nose picking - digging a hole to china, mining, nose diving, pick and flick LOL LOL
perhaps she picked that one just for you? I had to say that. and although I am wanting to use two dots to make all the detectives think I am someone else or three dots to really make you mad.
it ain't all about memories
you are allowed to just make a page for the fun of layering and ENJOYing it for yourself.
so many rules?
no title, no date, no journalling
in years to come?
how about how funny it is today?
I don't know the scrapper under the bus today, but how hilarious to use this pic...pun intended!
so glad I didn't get your rule book with my program to create.
it is rather fun to make a page just to play-try it, you like it, try it, you'll see.
What I find funny is that it's scrapped in the same way as the "perfect moment" pics, and of course it just HAD to go in the GSO, because it's so amazing, so beautiful, so everything. Or maybe it's just so she-used-my-designer's-kit-that-I'm-trying-to-advertise-so-if-she-wants-to-scrap-her-kid-picking-his-nose-I'll-still-put-it-in-the-GSO.
it is rather fun to make a page just to play-try it, you like it, try it, you'll see.
Totally Agree!!! I don't know when people got so critical to know just how something should or shouldn't be done. This is about creativity as much as about making memories and I'm with you-sometimes I like making just a fun page that has nothing pertinent to anything else. Those who don't get it never will!
It's just another stupid layout with no information at all. What's the point of it if it has no title and no journaling anyway? I
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Just because she chose not to share the journaling with you, doesn't mean it's not there. Quite a few scrappers don't include the journaling when they upload their layouts.
Some of you people need to get your panties out of your asses. I was being sarcastic about the nosepicking layout. Lighten up for fucks sake!
Just got the SSD newsletter for this week, and I see a new designer is joining the store in a couple weeks. Anyone have any guesses who it might be?
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Some of you people need to get your panties out of your asses. I was being sarcastic about the nosepicking layout. Lighten up for fucks sake!
March 12, 2010 6:59 PM
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Sounds like you are the only one with your panties up your ass.
Just got the SSD newsletter for this week, and I see a new designer is joining the store in a couple weeks. Anyone have any guesses who it might be?
March 12, 2010 10:48 PM
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Miss Tiina?
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Some of you people need to get your panties out of your asses. I was being sarcastic about the nosepicking layout. Lighten up for fucks sake!
March 12, 2010 6:59 PM
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Sounds like you are the only one with your panties up your ass.
March 13, 2010 12:59 AM
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Nope! Not up my ass at all. I'm not wearing any LOL
Hummie is a rusty old cooze.
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And you are a bitter troll.
So incredibly disappointment to see an otherwise good designer go so copyright wrong.
http://bouncingbonbon.blogspot.com/2010/03/alice-in-wonderland.html
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What's amusing is that she is aware of the copyright breach, but thinks it's okay as long as you use the stuff for personal use only.
Amusing or frustrating - she even goes on to defend it in a later post.
Amusing or frustrating - she even goes on to defend it in a later post.
March 13, 2010 8:28 PM
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It would be different if she just used the images in her blog post. She is distributing them and whether for commercial gain or not, you cannot distribute copyrighted art or materials without written permission from the owner. Period. So, spin it anyway she chooses, she has violated the Disney copyright by distributing THEIR art on her commercial blog. Doh!
I always find it so amazing that people make up their own rules in regards to copyright, based on ill conceived comparisons. She is distributing material copyrighted by Disney plain and simple, she is abusing the copyright laws.
Interesting how she also uses the length of time designing as reasoning in her argument. What has that got to do with the price of butter?
If she had attempted to get permission from Disney, she would know that she would not get permission for such a thing. Disney is one company I would not want to mess with!
At least we know it's okay to distribute her art once we've bought it. As long as we give it away for free and request personal use only.
Isn't that her argument for the Disney stuff?
And at least we bought her stuff, instead of stealing it off the web.
I took a psych course once and I'll always remember the lesson they taught us about the different types of arguments people use to defend their position when they know it's wrong.
I don't remember the names of them, but the ideas behind them.
One is the idea that 'I've been doing it this long and not been proven wrong yet, so I must be right'
One was 'hundreds of other people do it so it must be right'
One was 'if its not really hurting anyone it must be right'
She uses all of those. Plus she added her own special one 'I'm having a really bad day today, so what I did was right.'
Don't get me wrong, I am very sorry she lost her brother. But that doesn't make it OK.
And, to further answer one her "rationalizations", when you decoupage and you take a copyrighted design on a napkin and use it to create a commercial piece of art - yes, you have violated that copyright. Is it done all the time? Yep. And by some pretty big name decoupage artists. Just because they are famous doesn't make it legal. I am sure if you look on the package of napkins you will see the copyright symbol.
Funny how easily ethics can be confused with what a person "wants" to do, instead of what they "should" do. Our society is full of these type of personality types. No wonder we are in a financial crapper right now.
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Yep. The economy sucks right now for sure! And it's almost entirely related to the misunderstanding of copyright issues and bad decoupage ethics.
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So has anyone kept up on the thread at DST on whether we should have to post credits when uploading a layout?
Thoughts?
Credits are NOT enforcable. Crediting is a courtesy. Nothing more, nothing less. Nobody can force you to credit or not credit.
You don't see a list of credits on clothing items: thanks to Jane Doe for the fabric design, thanks to Jane Doe for the cotton used to sew this product, thanks to Singer for the sewing machines, thanks to Brand X for the dyes used to print the fabric etc etc.
Designers can "suggest" people credit but they can't enforce it.
What gives me the shits and also gives the impression that a designer has an enlarged ego is when a CU TOU states the exact words you must use in your credits eg: "Special thanks to X for items used in the making of this kit". I don't comply. I simply state "Thnks to X"
Kinda see your point except that a digi kit can't be compared thread, etc. A digi kit is a work of art. The scrapper is adding their own photos to someone else's art and rearranging that art. But the scrapper didn't create the art, the designer did.
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Disagree. I may use a kit to enhance my work, but that doesn't mean the designer made my work, does it?
A digi kit is a work of art.
I disagree. A kit (paper or digi) contains the components to create a layout.
I always find it so amazing that people make up their own rules in regards to copyright, based on ill conceived comparisons. She is distributing material copyrighted by Disney plain and simple, she is abusing the copyright laws.
So WTF don't you give Disney a head's up and let them take care of the situation. Sheesh quit bitching and then do nothing about it. Those who have copyright problems usually have to pay the piper before it's all over but if you sit by and let someone get away with it then you are just as much a part of the problem as the problem itself.
I disagree. A kit (paper or digi) contains the components to create a layout.
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That depends upon the kit. Some kits are nothing more than a hodge podge of flowers and ribbons, but many are not. Many are made up of unique elements that the designer has created, oftentimes painted digitally. That's art and the scrapper didn't create it.
Some kits contain unique art, many contain a hodge podge of flowers and ribbons.
...whatever.
The bottom line is if you're using a unique elements and posting a layout but not giving credit, you're actually taking credit for those items.
Yep. The economy sucks right now for sure! And it's almost entirely related to the misunderstanding of copyright issues and bad decoupage ethics.
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March 14, 2010 3:23 PM
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No smart ass. I was referring to the people in this ENTIRE society who think the rules of ethical behavior don't apply to them. They want something - they take it. Our economy is crumpled because people bought homes they couldn't afford, charged up credit card bills they had no way of paying. All because they had to "have it" and figured they could just pull money out of their ass at some point to pay for their wants. It is unethical to accumulate debt you can't pay. It is the mindset I was referring to. Its the same just at a smaller scale.
So WTF don't you give Disney a head's up and let them take care of the situation.
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Done.
You shouldn't assume that just because someone bitches here, that they haven't taken action.
So you can take your WTF and chew it on for awhile while you figure out your next smart ass remark.
A digi kit is a work of art. The scrapper is adding their own photos to someone else's art and rearranging that art. But the scrapper didn't create the art, the designer did.
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I don't agree at all. The digi kit is a collection of digital resources to be used for making other things. In some cases, they MAY contain art. But, I think many layouts could also be considered art. Most art definitions say something to the effect of 'deliberate' (or conscious) arrangements of elements (forms colors, shapes) to appeal to our senses...
So WTF don't you give Disney a head's up and let them take care of the situation. Sheesh quit bitching and then do nothing about it. Those who have copyright problems usually have to pay the piper before it's all over but if you sit by and let someone get away with it then you are just as much a part of the problem as the problem itself.
March 14, 2010 5:52 PM
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I went direct to the designer and posted on her blog, she removed the items and even apologised, is that not good enough for you?
I don't see a need to inform Disney since I am not the copyright police, but designers need to know right from wrong when it comes to copyright as it effects the entire industry when they get it wrong.
I don't agree at all. The digi kit is a collection of digital resources to be used for making other things. In some cases, they MAY contain art. But, I think many layouts could also be considered art. Most art definitions say something to the effect of 'deliberate' (or conscious) arrangements of elements (forms colors, shapes) to appeal to our senses...
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Britannica Online defines art as "the use of skill and imagination in the creation of aesthetic objects, environments, or experiences that can be shared with others."
I agree that many layouts would be considered art, but so to the background papers and elements that went into the kit - depending upon what the backgrounds were and the elements.
An example: Joelle made a kit with swans in it, can't remember the name of the kit and no I'm not Joelle. But the kit is on my wish list. I know for a fact that she digitally painted a lot of the elements in that kit. Now if I were to use that kit to make a layout and upload it without crediting her, it would be no different than my taking credit for her artistry in the kit. Yes, I arranged the elements in a pleasing, artistic manner, but I didn't make them. She deserves as much credit as I do, imo.
Nobody is stopping you from giving designer credit. However, I shouldn't be required to. If I bought a stock photo from a stock site to use in a commercial flyer, I am not required to name the photographer.
An example: Joelle made a kit with swans in it, can't remember the name of the kit and no I'm not Joelle. But the kit is on my wish list. I know for a fact that she digitally painted a lot of the elements in that kit. Now if I were to use that kit to make a layout and upload it without crediting her, it would be no different than my taking credit for her artistry in the kit. Yes, I arranged the elements in a pleasing, artistic manner, but I didn't make them. She deserves as much credit as I do, imo.
March 14, 2010 8:25 PM
Her shit is ugly!
I'm pretty sure that Joelle isn't "hand painting" much of anything. Is this the swan you are talking about?
http://www.scrappity-doo-dah.com/store/product.php?productid=3414&cat=0&page=1
Because you can go ahead and extract that yourself from this public domain image just like she did:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mute_swan_flies_arp.jpg
I'm not saying that there aren't a lot of artists in the digital design community. But extracting a swan from someone else's photo isn't really super artistic, imo.
I know for a fact that she digitally painted a lot of the elements in that kit.
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How do you know this for a fact? Unless you are she or you saw her painting them, you don't know for a fact.
Hi there - did you ask if anyone reported it? Or did you just assume nobody did. Because I did. And I'm probably not the only one.
'I always find it so amazing that people make up their own rules in regards to copyright, based on ill conceived comparisons. She is distributing material copyrighted by Disney plain and simple, she is abusing the copyright laws.
So WTF don't you give Disney a head's up and let them take care of the situation. Sheesh quit bitching and then do nothing about it. Those who have copyright problems usually have to pay the piper before it's all over but if you sit by and let someone get away with it then you are just as much a part of the problem as the problem itself.'
People who design kits are designing digital items to be used by people to create art - sure, they are artists, but what they are doing is designing tools for someone else. Just like paper craft designers. Or people who design fabric. If I pain a picture, its my art - but if I scan it and sell it for people to create layouts with, I am not offering the a tool for their own art, so its a totally different thing. Professional designers are behind most of what we use for aesthetics in our homes, but we don't have credits all over the place. 'This vase designed by X, this drapery by Y'. People come in, enjoy our aesthetics, and complement us on how we put them together. We aren't taking credit for everything we use, just the arrangement.
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Wow, I was wrong about her. My bad :(
There are probably a lots of 'generic' items that only have 'made in China' embossed on them someplace and tracking down the copyright holder to request permission is fairly impossible. That's more of a gray area...but you have very little chance of having a lawyer knocking on your door about it.
Ohhhhhh so I guess that makes it okay then. I don't think there's a gray area - either it's ethical or it isn't.
There are probably a lots of 'generic' items that only have 'made in China' embossed on them someplace and tracking down the copyright holder to request permission is fairly impossible. That's more of a gray area...but you have very little chance of having a lawyer knocking on your door about it.
Ohhhhhh so I guess that makes it okay then. I don't think there's a gray area - either it's ethical or it isn't.
and the Chinese are such an ethical society where most of this junk is made in sweat shops paying pennies a day and places who exploit children to also work to make the crap they import into the US. I mean we aren't talking artistic items costing hundreds of dollars.
WTF is the rude bitch carrying on about copyright and using CU items without crediting the original designer. Using Miss Tiina as an example of a CU Designer whose work gets used without credit, and carrying on about copyright in the same breath is a JOKE especially after what happened with her copying images copyrighted to IKEA lol
I'm loving the credit/no credit conversation on DST. Gives me a really good idea of who is worth buying from, and who wants me to not only pay for their kit, but provide them with free advertising too. For example:
"Designers spend a lot of time, effort and time on each product...WAY more time than it takes to credit them. SO PLEASE credit out of respect for the designers."
The way I show my "respect" for a designer is by purchasing their work.
Duh.
I understand her point that if a designer is going to go ON AND ON about how important it is to credit the source of the work, they should apply that same rule to themselves and credit every piece of CU they use. We are talking about people insisting things be credited to the 'last button' yet they themselves don't do that in their kits.
Unfortunately I don't think she knows about the crap with Miss Tina so she doesn't know how ironic it is that she is including Miss Tina in her list of people who should be credited (when in fact Miss Tina should be more upfront about where she gets her designs from).
And why doesn't she know about the crap with Miss Tina? I have no freakin idea. I don't know why it hasn't been made more public, and I don't know why the two threads in the DCR were removed. I guess it pays yo have the right friends.
At one forum I participate in we were discussing it and the store owner removed the thread saying it was 'high school gossip' that she would not tolerate.
and the Chinese are such an ethical society where most of this junk is made in sweat shops paying pennies a day and places who exploit children to also work to make the crap they import into the US. I mean we aren't talking artistic items costing hundreds of dollars.
and it the Chinese all jumped off a cliff, would you do that too?
'and the Chinese are such an ethical society where most of this junk is made in sweat shops paying pennies a day and places who exploit children to also work to make the crap they import into the US. I mean we aren't talking artistic items costing hundreds of dollars.'
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That's a faulty argument. Just because someone is unethical doesn't make it OK for you to behave in an unethical way towards them.
OK, also reading the credit/nocredit thread with slight interest.
Is TheMommason the most in your face insulting bitch that ever graced a thread? Seriously, that woman needs prozac.
Speaking from a legal point of view, copyright is one of the most gray areas of law, which is why all the lawyers who deal with this kind of stuff try to avoid it. Trademarks, patents and designs are nice and solid, but copyright bites.
It's refreshing to see someone on DST who isn't afraid to call people on their b.s. Yes, she could be nicer, but at least she's real.
Doesn't anyone else get sick of the sticky sweetness and the sucking up at DST? It's like eating ice cream for breakfast, lunch, and dinner every. single. day. Blech. I can't take any of it seriously when everyone just loves every designer and everyone is such an amazing and wonderful scrapper and everyone is just so surprised and happy that they made the GSO (every day this week).
Are you talking about Mommason? She's real because she's rude? I don't think so. Jenn is being real without being rude. There are lots of real people at DST, but most here seem to think they are stuck up, superior or know it alls.
After the first one or two posts by Mommason, I stopped reading them. They are unnecessarily confrontational, loaded with errors and run on. How the hell can anyone read them? They are incomprehensible.
It's refreshing to see someone on DST who isn't afraid to call people on their b.s. Yes, she could be nicer, but at least she's real.
ITA.
Its hard not to be rude when you feel like you are talking to a wall. People keep coming in and saying how nice and courteous it is to credit - well DUH no one is suggesting otherwise - the problem is with being required to credit.
Its hard not to be rude when you feel like you are talking to a wall. People keep coming in and saying how nice and courteous it is to credit - well DUH no one is suggesting otherwise - the problem is with being required to credit.
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That isn't her point at all. Go back and re-read how she's responding to posts. She's being a bitch for the sake of being a bitch. Very few on there are sickly sweet, most are trying to make a point without being obnoxious and for those of you on here who seem to be still in of high school, speaking in a civil manner to others while debating a point is actually how real grown ups act.
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ITA!
Jenn has managed to get her point across, while hitting the same brick wall, without being rude.
Oh I know it isn't her main point - her main point is that if designers want to require full disclosure in their credits, they are being hypocritical if they don't do the same in their own kits. (And I totally agree - designers need to get OVER themselves and this ridiculous need to be credited to protect their work that half of it - if not more - isn't really their work in the first place)
But she did in caps with the 'typing slowly isn't the same as talking slowly' comment that she isn't saying she wont credit or crediting is bad. People who keep throwing that into the mix - their opinion that crediting is a nice courtesy, isn't really that hard, etc. Those points have seem agreed on so people coming in and saying 'I credit as a courtesy I think its a nice thing to do' aren't really contributing to that conversation.
And the one lady said 'don't tell me this isn't an anti-crediting movement because it is' - uh hello? You get to decide now what the intentions are of the people posting in the thread??
I didn't say she wasn't rude--she was. But it was fun to read, and not everybody expresses themselves perfectly when they are upset. Clearly, she's frustrated and irritated with what looks like hypocrisy from some designers. I haven't checked in with that thread for a few hours, but last I read no one had addressed her very valid points.
Oh, and thanks for throwing out the high school card. We all can't get enough of that cliche on this blog, but thankfully there's always someone around to say it again.
but last I read no one had addressed her very valid points.
March 15, 2010 7:08 PM
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That's probably because her valid points are so deeply buried in the rest of her garbage, nobody has seen them.
Oh, and thanks for throwing out the high school card. We all can't get enough of that cliche on this blog, but thankfully there's always someone around to say it again.
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If people are tired of being compared to childish, narrow minded/mindless adolescents, here's a tip - stop acting like them.
You can make a valid point and not insult people. The woman's a bitch. Here's a quote of her's. Who would respond with something like this simply because someone else quotes wiki? What a moronic twat.
What a moronic twat.
March 15, 2010 8:17 PM
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Classy... No doubt you're the ideal person to teach other people manners. :-)
If people are tired of being compared to childish, narrow minded/mindless adolescents, here's a tip - stop acting like them.
March 15, 2010 8:06 PM
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Maybe where you live all adolescents are childish, narrow- minded, etc., but here in the real world we don't require the manners police to point out rude behavior on a smack blog. That's why it's called....wait for it....a smack blog. Feel free to go elsewhere if you can't handle it. Trust me--no one will miss your stimulating input.
Classy... No doubt you're the ideal person to teach other people manners. :-)
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What's acceptable on here is probably quite different than in the real world because ... wait for it ... this is a smack blog :)
And DST is the real world for you?
SNAP! TheMommason is my new idol.
In case it gets deleted:
Kazadoodle:
Originally Posted by TheMommason
FYI quoting wikipedia as a good source drops your cediblity to about a -1000000. Nevermind the eqation of creidts tracking to carring for your children which won it's on special place in brainless comment of the day..* Ouch ouch eye sprain *
Being rude and insulting does not make you any more credible.
And special place for brainless comment goes right here
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Originally Posted by TheMommason
Typing slowly so does not have the same effect as talking slowly...
You do have some valid and interesting points to make, but if you presented them politely and comprehensively, maybe someone would pay attention.
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Reply from TheMommason:
I'm sorry that you missed the 6 previous comments where it was said nicely and this was once again trying to get someone to actually stop twisting what was being said. Sorry you missed on the Hummie rips and stalking and decided to come after me.
I didn't tell people that making credit lists is on the same level as careing for their children or that Wikipedia is a good place for legal advice. Please find a new person to pick a fight with sweety I bite.
Nice stolen images that are uncredited on your blog by the way.
SNAP! TheMommason is my new idol.
March 15, 2010 10:14 PM
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Why? Because you are her or because like calls to like?
Not to change the subject, but wow. Who would pay $2.49 for a template mostly consisting of a single square and some lines for journaling?
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=24147
Nice money, if you can get people to buy it. Makes me want to start "designing" too.
Why? Because you are her or because like calls to like?
March 15, 2010 10:52 PM
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Are those my only two choices? Because I'm not her, and that's not my posting style. I just appreciate the fact that she's not letting people get away with their hypocritical bitchiness. There's room in this world for people like that, and they keep other people (like you, probably) in check.
Not me, I may be a bitch, but I'm not a hypocrite. How about you?
TheMommason is all over the freakin' internet.
I'm not perfect. I do post here, which makes me something of a hypocrite, since I'm much nicer IRL.
Not to change the subject, but wow. Who would pay $2.49 for a template mostly consisting of a single square and some lines for journaling?
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=24147
Nice money, if you can get people to buy it. Makes me want to start "designing" too.
March 15, 2010 10:53 PM
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Not if you can get something almost the same for free at the same store:
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=22636&cat=287&page=3
I'm not perfect. I do post here, which makes me something of a hypocrite, since I'm much nicer IRL.
March 15, 2010 11:11 PM
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Good answer. Peace?
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