I always find it interesting to note which topics of conversation generate the blog spam. There are some regulars around digi land that are frequently mentioned here. I think they have given up the battle. They know eventually the topic will turn and it will be on to something else. Admittedly, I am not active around the "community" but I have been hosting the blog for awhile now and have noticed some trends.
Watch out when the blog bitches find a new target. They keep picking, they Google, they dig, they hunt IP's, they search other message boards, they jump in the way back machine and remind all of indiscretions of yesteryear.
The blog target virgins pick up the bat phone. Put out a virtual call for back up send the blog link to all. Their friends will try to defend, try to call everyone out for being anonymous. It gets nasty. They can't win against the blog bitches. So then they try diversionary tactics, attempt to change the subject to some other digi crime in recent memory. When that doesn't work, they resort to spam. Song lyrics, in multiple languages, middle school trash talk. Anything to bury the previous threads of conversation.
And don't forget about the Pearl clutching handslappers. You know, the ones that just want everyone to get along and sing Kum Bay Yah. The ones that scold people for posting, and wasting their time reading this internet trash, all while offering helpful alternate suggestions for spending time. You know, like watching kids, cooking dinner for your husband, reading the bible.
And the Lurkers, that stop by for entertainment value.
Which category are you?
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Thanks Emily, good to know you read the blog!
March 20, 2010 10:34 AM
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If you honestly think that was Emily posting, you are a complete dumb ass.
I am surprised that no one has brought up the fact that the wording on that template is from a very famous children's book. Isn't that like a big no no right there???
March 20, 2010 9:02 PM
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Spot on.
That doesn't work. I haven't been on FB since forever, as I really don't get it the whole hype. I'm still getting fan of requests and probably have multiple of them from the same people. It's just tacky.
March 20, 2010 8:43 PM
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Yes, it does. I don't click anything and I don't get reinvites. It keeps coming up in my FB notifications but I don't care about that.
It's so much easier though if you aren't friends with a bunch of random digiscrappers. And if a digiscrapper ever asks, I have no problem saying it's for friends and family that I really know. Why would I want to be friends with someone I barely know? I post stuff about my life on there.
Again, as long as you are friends with people in this business, you'll have to play the game. Start unfriending and your FB life will get easier! Or keep them as friends and keep getting the invites from CTs and designers to join their designer's FB fanpage. You can't really bitch about something that you can do something about. They can't invite you to a fan page unless you are friends.
I'm still getting fan of requests and probably have multiple of them from the same people. It's just tacky.
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email them and tell them they are being tacky and annoying. or report to fb. and i agree to unfriend them.
I am surprised that no one has brought up the fact that the wording on that template is from a very famous children's book. Isn't that like a big no no right there???
March 20, 2010 9:02 PM
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Nope, In general, copyright does not protect individual words, short phrases, and slogans.
I am surprised that no one has brought up the fact that the wording on that template is from a very famous children's book. Isn't that like a big no no right there??
all you people do is bitch. why don't you email the author of the book/ or the site owner/ get off your ass and do something if it bothers you.
doesn't bother me what she does. i don't buy her crapola. and digi takes this stoopid copyright business way beyond normal.
ps kids popped shift keys off my laptop and i can't find them. the keys, not the kids.
so the scrapnchat forum linked on the front page was a complete fail/ it's gone now/ like that was a surprise.
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What are you talking about?
all you people do is bitch. why don't you email the author of the book/ or the site owner/ get off your ass and do something if it bothers you.
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Read on sister. You'll find that a lot us report. Don't come here and give random advice that nobody wants.
digi takes this stoopid copyright business way beyond normal.
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No they don't. Other industries and places go completely nuts. You really don't have a clue about anything, do you?
Nope, In general, copyright does not protect individual words, short phrases, and slogans.
March 21, 2010 12:26 AM
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That doesn't apply here. It's not any of those things. It's a short quotation which must be attributed. This part of the law probably applies, which comes under Fair Use.
Under the doctrine of fair use, a person may make short quotations for purposes of criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, or scholarship, without first obtaining permission of the copyright owner of the quoted work. However, every quotation must be clearly identified with the source of the quotation and the name of the author of the quoted text.
Maybe she sited in her TOU? Probably needs to do it in her description though. Using a quote from a book is not a copyright infringement.
Maybe she sited in her TOU? Probably needs to do it in her description though. Using a quote from a book is not a copyright infringement.
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Whoa.....unless she has specific permission from the author of the book to be quoted, it certainly IS copyright infringement.
Funny how you designers can be so up to date on graphics copyright violations, but not literary violations. Read up on it.
http://www.plagiarism.org/plag_article_what_is_plagiarism.html
But can words and ideas really be stolen?
According to U.S. law, the answer is yes. The expression of original ideas is considered intellectual property, and is protected by copyright laws, just like original inventions. Almost all forms of expression fall under copyright protection as long as they are recorded in some way (such as a book or a computer file).
All of the following are considered plagiarism:
•turning in someone else's work as your own
•copying words or ideas from someone else without giving credit
•failing to put a quotation in quotation marks
•giving incorrect information about the source of a quotation
•changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit
•copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on "fair use" rules)
So if I type the poem right here, right now, I'm infringing on copyright? and you would report this blog?
Bring it up with the store owner. Hashing it out here doesn't do anything.
I don't see the point being so damn anal about copyright issues. A little common sense and reasonableness would go a long way here. I just read a post on DST about whether it's okay to scraplift a template that you didn't buy.
Do other people with a hobby spend as much time agonizing about all the legal and moral implications of copyright as digiscrappers seem to?
I don't see the point being so damn anal about copyright issues. A little common sense and reasonableness would go a long way here. I just read a post on DST about whether it's okay to scraplift a template that you didn't buy.
Do other people with a hobby spend as much time agonizing about all the legal and moral implications of copyright as digiscrappers seem to?
March 21, 2010 3:00 PM
I'd noticed this too. Do you think that digi has a higher percentage of people who want to make a dime off the average digiscrapper than other hobbies. For instance, my dh plays golf, several of his buddies do too. Out of a group of ten of these guys, none of them sells any golf product that affects that hobby.
Now think about digi, out of a group of ten digi people you know, at least one of them is selling product. Could this be a factor in that?
Digiscrap: how to make money out of nothing.
Digiscrap: how to make money out of nothing.
March 21, 2010 4:08 PM
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Lol, love it!
Digiscrap: how to make money out of nothing.
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Really? Wouldn't you have to say the same thing for web site developers and any type graphic designers then?
Because a designer uses a computer (which is costly) and a program (again costly) and spends hours and hours of her time designing - she has no cost?
Seems to be a lot of resentment towards designers here.
One joke, and suddenly there's "a lot of resentment towards designers here." I thought it was funny, because sometimes I laugh at myself for buying so many products that aren't really real, iykwim. Doesn't mean I resent anything at all. It was a funny description.
For instance, my dh plays golf, several of his buddies do too. Out of a group of ten of these guys, none of them sells any golf product that affects that hobby.
Now think about digi, out of a group of ten digi people you know, at least one of them is selling product. Could this be a factor in that?
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It's not just restricted to digi but you do have a point about the number of people selling. I've noticed it with the cottage industries. I've been in stamping groups, toy making, crocheting, knitting, etc. etc. Sooner or later some bright spark gets the idea of selling their designs or patterns. And then it's on for you and old about copyright etc. The same crapola goes on about piracy and sharing, just like it does in digi.
I'd noticed this too. Do you think that digi has a higher percentage of people who want to make a dime off the average digiscrapper than other hobbies.
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No. You'll find the same stats in any cottage industry that is mostly populated by women.
Its not ridiculous to report people for copyright infringement - it's ridiculous that people think its OK to try to make money off someone else's idea in the first place. And so often people want to use the excuse of '5 of my friends did it an they didn't get into trouble' to make it OK. So, fine, I'll make it my personal mission to get all 5 of them in trouble too.
Its not just in digicrapping either - perhaps we notice it more because we spend more time here - but there is hell to pay if a blogger uses someone else's work without crediting - drama, controversy, blog rebuttals flying all over the place.
There's something about the digital world that makes people think its OK to steal other peoples ideas and claim them as their own. I don't know if it's because we don't physically see the people we are stealing from, so it's dehumanized and doesn't seem real so we feel less shameful ... or if its just that the chances of getting caught are much lower ... or some other crazy idea. But it is prevalent in
the digital world - theft, copyright infringement, privacy ... it's everywhere.
Why do we talk about it so much? Well because it's wrong.
What REALLY pisses me off is the designers who in one thread are all over someone for stealing elements and putting them in a kit, and then in another thread are defending their own use of copyrighted images and coming up with all sorts of creative ways to interpret the law to make it seem like what they are doing isn't illegal. Hellooooo hypocrites.
I think the people who comment here that we should all stop being
'anal' about copyright are the people who have violated it themselves and want to continue to do so.
Why the hell are digi designers accused of being anal about copyright?? It's not just digi designers. Many industries are much more stringent about copyright than digi designers are. Good grief! Some of you people are so stupid.
Being that the same tired old subjects keep getting brought up here, it just shows that there really isn't as much "drama" going on in the digi industry as a lot of you idiots would like to have people believe.
What is all this bullshit talk about designers trying to make a dime off of digiscrappers? Hello - where would you get your supplies to digiscrap if you didn't have designers? Some scrappers can make their own, a lot can't.
Or do you think we should just be giving everything for free????
Yes, that's it! These same idiots probably think the supermarkets should supply them with free groceries too. Afterall, they are just "in it for the money" LOL. Stupid stupid people.
You do realize that those facebook invites aren't coming from the designer, right? Everytime one of your scrapbook friends becomes someone's fan, they have the option to suggest that you become a fan too. So if you are getting too many of the same invites, check which friend it is and ask them to stop inviting you. Or you can do what I do, which is join and then hit the "hide" button. The person who runs the fan page can't see your profile like someone who you add as your friend.
I think the people who comment here that we should all stop being
'anal' about copyright are the people who have violated it themselves and want to continue to do so.
March 21, 2010 7:49 PM
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I'm the one who posted that, and I've never knowingly violated anyone's tou's. I don't share my files, and I'm too lazy to upload to galleries.
Other things I don't do include hooking up my tv to the neighbor's cable and downloading music from filesharing sites. I can even talk about my favorite shows an songs without hyperfocusing on the ethics of loaning my bff my season one of The Office dvd.
A lot of things are wrong. No one is saying designers should give away their work or that stealing is okay. But sometimes people are just so damned petty (i.e., the quote in Emily Power's template).
Totally not impressed with FPD's new line up of designers.
Oh crap, now that the health care bill has passed the government dependent horde is going to be out in full force in the Hot Topics forum.
What REALLY pisses me off is the designers who in one thread are all over someone for stealing elements and putting them in a kit, and then in another thread are defending their own use of copyrighted images and coming up with all sorts of creative ways to interpret the law to make it seem like what they are doing isn't illegal. Hellooooo hypocrites.
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But are the exact same people or are you refering to designers as a group in general? Just like there are many opinions on this blog about copyright, there are many opinions in designer world too.
If specific designers have done this, then why don't you post who it is?
Totally not impressed with FPD's new line up of designers.
March 22, 2010 12:15 AM
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Announced where?
A lot of things are wrong. No one is saying designers should give away their work or that stealing is okay. But sometimes people are just so damned petty (i.e., the quote in Emily Power's template).
That quote was a copyright line from a book. Why are you making an exception and saying its petty to point out that it is also a copyright violation? Obviously you have a good understanding of theft so it's confusing that you defend this one.
But are the exact same people or are you refering to designers as a group in general? Just like there are many opinions on this blog about copyright, there are many opinions in designer world too.
If specific designers have done this, then why don't you post who it is?
The exact same designer group. One thread attacking another designer for stealing elements, and another thread defending their own copyright infringements as 'fair use' (which NEVER applies to commercial works). And I'm not saying who it is because that group reads this blog, and the conversation was in a private forum, and I would be outing myself if I did. And I'm not ready to do that.
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You do realize that those facebook invites aren't coming from the designer, right? Everytime one of your scrapbook friends becomes someone's fan, they have the option to suggest that you become a fan too. So if you are getting too many of the same invites, check which friend it is and ask them to stop inviting you. Or you can do what I do, which is join and then hit the "hide" button. The person who runs the fan page can't see your profile like someone who you add as your friend.
March 21, 2010 10:13 PM
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Well, I keep getting invited to join a particular designers fan page which SHE runs and SHE does the inviting. Wouldn't you think she'd get the hint after 6 or 7 times? LOL
Fan pages should be started by FANS but the majority of them are started by the designer who then sends invites to all her "friends" to be her fan. That seems so egotistical to me. LOL
Isn't it enough that I have her as a "friend"? Why be a fan too?
I have someone on my friends list who is a promoter of designers - every time she takes on a new client I get an invite to join that clients fan page. I'm kinda stuck though because she is a friend so I want her on my friends list.
You usually get a notification of who is doing the inviting or recommending - so maybe look for patterns and see who's doing it most and then unfriend.
Does anyone buy anything based on what they've seen advertised on the fan page? There's been a lot of discussion about FBs and some designers are wondering if it's worth the trouble of setting one up?
---Does anyone buy anything based on what they've seen advertised on the fan page? There's been a lot of discussion about FBs and some designers are wondering if it's worth the trouble of setting one up?---
Yes, the majority of my buying comes from seeing the product in my FB feed or from newsletters I receive in my email account. I rarely just pop into a store and look to see what they have anymore. Mainly because, if I did that, I would spend way too much time browsing for something that I like. I would rather have it brought to me, kwim? I will occasionally look at DST to see what sales are on as well.
I agree. Why are you "friends" with a bunch of people you don't know? Seriously, you said it yourself that they only become friends to advertise. You do realize you have control over this? Right?
Start unfriending and you'll get less of those requests. If you don't want to play that game then you have to completely jump out. Otherwise you're getting what you ask for.
March 20, 2010 4:20 PM
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Yes, I realize I have control. *rolling eyes* But, it is called "NETWORKING" and there is a reason I, and many others, do it.
All digital designers and scrapbookers who I do not have a personal relationship with are in a special group and I do hide most of my family photos and personal status updates from them.
Well, I keep getting invited to join a particular designers fan page which SHE runs and SHE does the inviting. Wouldn't you think she'd get the hint after 6 or 7 times? LOL
Fan pages should be started by FANS but the majority of them are started by the designer who then sends invites to all her "friends" to be her fan. That seems so egotistical to me. LOL
Isn't it enough that I have her as a "friend"? Why be a fan too?
March 22, 2010 1:42 AM
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EXACTLY! I was the one who originally commented about the FB issue and this is exactly what I am talking about with the multiple invites.
Does anyone buy anything based on what they've seen advertised on the fan page? There's been a lot of discussion about FBs and some designers are wondering if it's worth the trouble of setting one up?
March 22, 2010 5:38 AM
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Yes, I have. And I'm more likely to see the sale or new release that way.
Yes, I realize I have control. *rolling eyes* But, it is called "NETWORKING" and there is a reason I, and many others, do it.
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Yep, you're playing the game. That's your choice. You can't have it both ways.
Fan pages should be started by FANS but the majority of them are started by the designer who then sends invites to all her "friends" to be her fan. That seems so egotistical to me. LOL
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Who do you think started the Children's Place fan page? Or Land's End? OR Glee? Look them up and you'll see what I mean.
They do it for advertising purposes. FANS don't start fan pages on Facebook, it's meant as a mean to get your name out there to the people who like to buy your products. Why would Digi be any different?
I'm always amazed at how people balk about digital designers not being professional. But when they do things just as the "pro's" do it, everyone bitches about it.
Yep, you're playing the game. That's your choice. You can't have it both ways.
March 22, 2010 8:10 AM
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MmmmHmmmm. I realize that.
I don't want to stop playing the game, but I can change the rules to suit me, right?
I don't want to stop playing the game, but I can change the rules to suit me, right?
March 22, 2010 9:05 AM
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only if you get some balls and email the offending CTs and designers requesting they stop inviting you. Otherwise you just have to deal with the crap pile you are choosing to step in.
Does anyone buy anything based on what they've seen advertised on the fan page? There's been a lot of discussion about FBs and some designers are wondering if it's worth the trouble of setting one up?
March 22, 2010 5:38 AM
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Not bought, but added things to my wishlist or downloaded free products. I am not the type to buy something as soon as it is released. I can wait for a sale or until I have money to blow, whichever comes first.
I also find things I love through LOs that are posted on FB, that I more than likely would have missed in the galleries. In general, I just love the inspiration.
only if you get some balls and email the offending CTs and designers requesting they stop inviting you. Otherwise you just have to deal with the crap pile you are choosing to step in.
March 22, 2010 9:13 AM
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Who pissed in your cheerios this morning? Lighten up lady before you blow a gasket! LOL All I did was ask a question. I can deal with my own shit.
But like I said, these are designers sending invites to their own pages. I am 100% positive of this. And yes, I have figured out how to handle the situation. Thanks.
But like I said, these are designers sending invites to their own pages. I am 100% positive of this. And yes, I have figured out how to handle the situation. Thanks.
March 22, 2010 9:20 AM
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They can't send an invite unless you are a friend of theirs.
You were the one bitching and whining about it. Clearly you can't be an adult or you would have solved the problem on your own without bitching about it here.
Yes, but wouldn't you think they'd get a hint if you have ignored more than one of their invites? Why do they feel the need to keep sending invites at regular intervals?
LOL @ "can't be an adult". Another example of your need to lighten up. Don't take this blog and it's contents so seriously.
For the record, *I* wasn't bitching. I asked a question DAYS ago and forgot about it. There were others who responded to the fb issue, but I wouldn't consider any of their responses to be bitching either. It's called having a discussion. I thought that was the purpose of this blog.
Yes, but wouldn't you think they'd get a hint if you have ignored more than one of their invites? Why do they feel the need to keep sending invites at regular intervals?
March 22, 2010 9:34 AM
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I think it's just what they do, apparently on a daily or weekly basis.
Don't click on the ignore button and they won't be able to send another request for that particular. Your name will be faded and unselectable.
thanks for the tip on the "ignore" button. i didn't know that! I don't join fan pages, but I have a lot of scrappers and designers on my friend list. I have them in a "scrapbooking" group. When I have extra time, I might browse through the category, but it gets frustrating since so many of them play the stupid facebook games and it fills up my wall! (no, I haven't figured out how to "hide" these. Please feel free to give me that tip as well!)
thanks for the tip on the "ignore" button. i didn't know that! I don't join fan pages, but I have a lot of scrappers and designers on my friend list. I have them in a "scrapbooking" group. When I have extra time, I might browse through the category, but it gets frustrating since so many of them play the stupid facebook games and it fills up my wall! (no, I haven't figured out how to "hide" these. Please feel free to give me that tip as well!)
March 22, 2010 9:57 AM
Move your cursor over a post and the hide button will appear. If you click it you will be given the option to hide that person or the game they are playing.
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You are my hero! I've been trying to do it from my profile and it only shows a "remove" button. Woo hoo! No more farmville or mafia crap! Yes, I am easy to please!
If you go in under your requests, you can also "Block This Application" or "Ignore All Invites From This Friend". Sometimes hiding in the news feed just isn't enough!
My word verification is sittinon. That must be a hint that I've been sittin on my ass looking at this blog much too long this morning. hahahahahahaha!
Fan pages should be started by FANS but the majority of them are started by the designer who then sends invites to all her "friends" to be her fan. That seems so egotistical to me. LOL
Isn't it enough that I have her as a "friend"? Why be a fan too?
March 22, 2010 1:42 AM
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OR, designers started Fan Pages so that they could advertise on THOSE and stop advertising on their Personal pages. That seemed to b the Gripe du Jour a few months ago.....
Respond to one complaint and wait for the opposite to commence, LOL.
Unfortunately, the option to "ignore all invites from this friend" doesn't seem to apply to page requests.
Totally not impressed with FPD's new line up of designers.
March 22, 2010 12:15 AM
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Announced where?
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It hasn't but you can go into the gallery at the site and see.
Totally not impressed with FPD's new line up of designers.
March 22, 2010 12:15 AM
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WHO???? Got a list to share?
Unfortunately, the option to "ignore all invites from this friend" doesn't seem to apply to page requests.
March 22, 2010 10:14 AM
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On fan page invites, don't click ignore or accept. It will still be on your page but you won't continue to get notifications because they can't reinvite you as long as there is a pending invite.
Yes, but wouldn't you think they'd get a hint if you have ignored more than one of their invites? Why do they feel the need to keep sending invites at regular intervals?
March 22, 2010 9:34 AM
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There's a button that sends it to all your friends that don't have pending invitations or aren't in the group. It's a matter of being lazy. They probably don't know that you rejected the invite. That's why so many on this blog are advising you to think carefully before you choose digiscrap friends.
I think we need a new post, blog owner. Pretty please! I don't know if it is because there are so many comments or if its blogger's fault but this one is getting all messed up.
blogger's messed up!
It's called having a discussion. I thought that was the purpose of this blog.
I don't think we're visiting the same blog. This blog is a bitch-fest! There's rarely a logical or worthwhile discussion occuring.
I'm not knocking the blog, I lurve the bitch-fest! Just sayin' that you came to the wrong place if you wanted someone to be all nicey to you about your retard facebook problems.
I'm not knocking the blog, I lurve the bitch-fest! Just sayin' that you came to the wrong place if you wanted someone to be all nicey to you about your retard facebook problems.
March 22, 2010 1:26 PM
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You are also in the wrong place, if you are looking for a forum where all of the people are adults who are capable of conveying a message clearly, intelligently and without feeling the need to spit out childish and offensive slurs. Most of us are...just not everyone.
I have a facebook "fan" page for my scrapbook kits because my real life friends and family really don't care that I have a kit on sale or I'm hosting a speed scrap. (And the ones that do just get the info from my fan page, it's really just an easy way to separate my business and personal life. Not to mention, like I posted yesterday, when you add my fan page, I can't see anymore of your profile than I could by doing a search for your name. If you friend request my real page, then I can see all your pictures and your Farmville posts or whatever. So becoming my "fan" really just means you're interested in my sales and not all my personal stuff that we don't all need access too on either side. Maybe they need to call them something other than fan pages.
Blogger is messed up right now - i cant do anything on my personal blog either.
You are also in the wrong place, if you are looking for a forum where all of the people are adults who are capable of conveying a message clearly, intelligently and without feeling the need to spit out childish and offensive slurs. Most of us are...just not everyone.
Nope, I'm really not. I was clear and intelligent enough that you got the message. And I got your goat, too. Too easy!
Maybe they need to call them something other than fan pages.
March 22, 2010 2:34 PM
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Sure, that's it! Facebook needs to cater only to the digi bitches that can't understand the business world.
Nope, I'm really not. I was clear and intelligent enough that you got the message. And I got your goat, too. Too easy!
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I could be wrong, but I think she was on your side.
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Nope. I wasn't on her side. I was letting her know that she sounded unintelligent. Although, apprarently she got that, so maybe she's smarter than I thought she was.
I'm not mad about it...no goat gotten for you this time. I don't feel the need to get upset about that at all since I'm not the one who came off sounding ignorant and bigoted. I'm all good. And if you feel good about yourself as a person throwing slurs out there, go to town. You may be anonymous here, but you can't escape your own character flaws. :)
got your goat over the word retard apparently. If you don't like "slurs", then you probably shouldn't be reading this blog. It isn't exactly the definition of PC.
Actually most of the people who post here are adult enough to remember that they are accountable for their words even if they are anon. Only some forget or don't care about their personal character when they hide behind anonymity. Or maybe those few people like sounding uneducated and rude. Not sure.
And you might be right. It does bother me to hear people use rude and insensitive slurs.
But looks like I got your goat as well by calling you out on your bigotry. You know, you don't have to be an ugly person inside if you don't want to be. It's an easy change. Just saying.
Maybe they need to call them something other than fan pages.
March 22, 2010 2:34 PM
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Sure, that's it! Facebook needs to cater only to the digi bitches that can't understand the business world.
March 22, 2010 3:12 PM
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I don't think it's just the digi world...I'm not really a "fan" of Toys R Us either, but I joined their fan page to get a coupon and be notified of sales. I don't think fan is the most accurate word for what these pages are.
Actually most of the people who post here are adult enough to remember that they are accountable for their words even if they are anon. Only some forget or don't care about their personal character when they hide behind anonymity. Or maybe those few people like sounding uneducated and rude. Not sure.
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I'm so impressed with your integrity.
Yes, she's the little professor, lol. Full of integrity and knowledge, she can teach us all.
For the record, I didn't say the word but having said that, there was a time when the term'retard' or 'retarded' wasn't considered anything bad. In fact, that was how mentally challenged individuals were referred to, even in the public schools.
If you use the word in public now, would a few eyebrows lift? Probably. Is the character of the person who used the word flawed? Based on that sentence - of course not.
So would the PC police please give it a rest.
^^^ Speaking of FB, I wish we could "like" the anon posts on this blog!
Totally not impressed with FPD's new line up of designers.
March 22, 2010 12:15 AM
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Announced where?
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It hasn't but you can go into the gallery at the site and see.
March 22, 2010 10:31 AM
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I haven't even heard of most of them.
Does anyone know if admin or store owners can read pm's in the forums?
Oops, I mean OTHER people's pm's to each other, sorry. lol
Does anyone know if admin or store owners can read pm's in the forums?
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They can but I don't think many of them do unless they are psycho.
Thanks! I was just curious.
Psycho or not they probably don't have time to read them ... there's soooo much else to do to run a site!
I have no clue if it can be done or not. I have access to the administrative side of some forums and I've never even thought of doing it let alone tried to find out if it can be done. I've got better things to do than read what other people say to each other.
Does anyone know if admin or store owners can read pm's in the forums?
March 23, 2010 12:01 AM
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Yes. There a couple ways it can be done. I would hope that most site owners and admins aren't in the practice of reading members PM's, though.
I've been out of the digiscrap world for a while, I'd be curious to see how people are rating the stores now. When I left, the great ones were the Lilypad and the Sweet Shoppe, OK ones were like Oscraps and Digichicks, and bleh ones were Elemental Scraps or Scrap Outside the Box (I didn't shop there unless I was following a direct link). Not sure where all these new stores should go in this!
Not sure what your point is!
Can't speak for others, but my favorite stores are SBG, Oscraps, A5D, and Shabby Pickle. I've recently bought some stuff from Two Little Pixels that I'm happy with.
I used to like Catscraps, but lately their stuff just seems blah.
Can't speak for others, but my favorite stores are SBG, Oscraps, A5D, and Shabby Pickle. I've recently bought some stuff from Two Little Pixels that I'm happy with.
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I's concur with the above...those are my favorite stores right now.
Yet there are a ton of smaller shops that have nice items too. Although you wouldn't know it from reading this blog, but I think the overall quality of product being offered has increased in the past year.
I like some of the designers at Elemental Scraps. It's worth checking out on Dollar Days.
I never shop at the Lilypad. I don't like their stuff.
I like Sweet Shoppe but I usually don't want to shell out the extra cash.
Honestly, it's a matter of what your scrapping style is. I don't like Catscrap, A5D, Lilypad, SBG, etc. Not they aren't great designers, it's just not my thing.
It seems like every time I look again there's a new store popping up, I'm sick of signing up for new stores!
I'm sick of signing up for new stores!
March 23, 2010 11:39 AM
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THEN DON'T! It's not like you are being forced to sign up. (unless you're a CT, but still your choice.)
There's a number of old stores that I don't have an account.
Has there even been a new store lately worth shopping at?
THEN DON'T! It's not like you are being forced to sign up. (unless you're a CT, but still your choice.)
There's a number of old stores that I don't have an account.
March 23, 2010 11:46 AM
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Well gee, obviously if I'm signing up it's because there's something there that I want/need, I realize nobody is tying me to a chair and forcing me to shop there, I just wish stores didn't keep popping up all over the place and that designers would go to already established stores so I didn't have to take the 20 seconds out of my day to sign up again. With the 20 seconds I have saved I have typed up this nifty post!
^^^ Still your choice to buy it and you can probably find something similar in a store you already have an account. Maybe you haven't been around long but that isn't going to change in this industry. Designers will keep changing stores as they open and close. It's like "Where's Waldo?"
that designers would go to already established stores
Maybe the store owners don't want them?
It doesn't make sense profit-wise to choose an unknown store unless you're the owner or just starting out.
Of course, there's been a few new stores that were instant hits...
Goddamn, I know it. NO ONE should EVER try anything new. Help us all if a new car manufacturer should open shop or some new clothing designers come into the scene and try to sell their styles at a new boutique on the corner. Lord knows we have enough clothing and cars to choose from already! *rolls eyes*
Want to know what I wish? I wish people would stop saying stupid shit on this blog.
I agree that what store is popular all depends on your style. Personally I shop at Scrap Orchard, Scrap Matters, Elemental Scraps (I think they have come a long way from when Jodee owned it), Sweet Shoppe and TLP.
I used to like to shop at TDC but the store just has way too many designers now and I get really overwhelmed there.
I always check out a new store if I know about it. I've been around long enough to remember when TLP was a new store and there was only one known designer selling there out of three. I remember when SBG was just Maya and her friend and when she went consignment, I think out of the 10 designers she took on, only 2 were probably known.
Of course, there's been a few new stores that were instant hits...
March 23, 2010 1:32 PM
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PDW when Holly had it
TLP
SBG
SP
A5D
FPD
SO
CatScrap
Pixel Canvas
Sweet Shoppe
Little Dreamer
That's just a few that I can remember.
About the giving credit issue:
Sometimes it's hard to give proper credit, when the kit contains "element_1", "element_2", "paper_1" etc. Hey you designers, why don't you start renaming the files one by one, with your name, the kit's name and the description "frame", "flower" etc. How about that? (I know that many designer do so, but others just don't...)
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You aren't the first to suggest that. I think this is something new designers do. I don't really care if they name their elements (I know what a frame looks like), but I like their name on the file.
About the giving credit issue:
Sometimes it's hard to give proper credit, when the kit contains "element_1", "element_2", "paper_1" etc. Hey you designers, why don't you start renaming the files one by one, with your name, the kit's name and the description "frame", "flower" etc. How about that? (I know that many designer do so, but others just don't...)
March 23, 2010 5:13 PM
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This only bothers me when they do this in a collab. Just because I like the collab, doesn't mean I'm such a huge fan I can tell who made what.
I'm gonna be a rebel and start posting in digi galleries without credits. I wonder if anyone will notice and send me a copyright notice?
About the giving credit issue:
Sometimes it's hard to give proper credit, when the kit contains "element_1", "element_2", "paper_1" etc. Hey you designers, why don't you start renaming the files one by one, with your name, the kit's name and the description "frame", "flower" etc. How about that? (I know that many designer do so, but others just don't...)
March 23, 2010 5:13 PM
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What's hard about it? It doesn't matter what the element is named. Why not just say Ribbons by X designer or Ribbons from X Kit by X designer. Who says you have to credit by filename?
I used to like to shop at TDC but the store just has way too many designers now and I get really overwhelmed there.
That is why we open new stores and don't all sell at already established ones ... its overwhelming to shop at stores with 30 or more designers, and its easy to get lost in the crowd.
Plus, some (many?) stores are run by borderline crooks, and after being burned a few times you just want to start your own store.
Some people have to be told the difference between a flower and a frame.
What's hard about it? It doesn't matter what the element is named. Why not just say Ribbons by X designer or Ribbons from X Kit by X designer. Who says you have to credit by filename?
Its not whether it says elements or ribbon that matters ... its when it doesn't have ANY designer name attached. Then if you lose the preview you don't know who designeed it because it says 'element_1' (or frame_1 or whatever) instead of DesignerName_element1
There are so many shops to choose from but the ones that usually get my attention are the ones that have catergories such as kits, papers,elements, quick pages, albums....
I don't sort through date added to find things.
They don't all have categories? I thought they installed those back in 2005?
Then if you lose the preview you don't know who designeed it because it says 'element_1' (or frame_1 or whatever) instead of DesignerName_element1
March 23, 2010 6:16 PM
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If a designer is going to be that stupid, then they don't deserve to be credited. It's one way to help protect your work.
If a designer is going to be that stupid, then they don't deserve to be credited. It's one way to help protect your work.
Agreed. It happens far too often though.
Their excuse for not properly naming things is always I no speak English too good.
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Really? I usually hear the not naming excuse from English speaking designers.
I'm gonna be a rebel and start posting in digi galleries without credits. I wonder if anyone will notice and send me a copyright notice?
March 23, 2010 6:02 PM
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What does it have to do with copyright? Nothing. It's about attribution. Huge difference. I've seen posting without credits before, it's not that rebellious.
Hey you designers, why don't you start renaming the files one by one, with your name, the kit's name and the description "frame", "flower"
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Because as it has been pointed out again and again, some computers or applications or whatever, cannot handle long file names.
What does it have to do with copyright? Nothing. It's about attribution. Huge difference. I've seen posting without credits before, it's not that rebellious.
March 23, 2010 7:18 PM
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A number of designers will disagree with you. Even though you are right! And believe me some will be screaming for attibrution rights if they find out someone posted without credits.
I've posted without credits before, no one came after me and it was name designers. It was also during the hey day of digi scrapping, around two years ago?
And believe me some will be screaming for attibrution rights if they find out someone posted without credits.
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I believe it but they can scream all they want. What the heck are they really going to do? Ban me from purchasing from them? They could do that but then I can also start to name names. Who's going to win in that situation? Not them.
Here's an example: If you go to Scrapbook-bytes & click on a designer's name all of the products are listed by date added,alphabetical, best selling,price low to high, high to low & most viewed.
That's what I meant. If there are pages of products, I don't look.
SBB might be the only one that continues to do that, I don't know. I don't shop around much anymore.
What's hard about it? It doesn't matter what the element is named. Why not just say Ribbons by X designer or Ribbons from X Kit by X designer. Who says you have to credit by filename?
Its not whether it says elements or ribbon that matters ... its when it doesn't have ANY designer name attached. Then if you lose the preview you don't know who designeed it because it says 'element_1' (or frame_1 or whatever) instead of DesignerName_element1
March 23, 2010 6:16 PM
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Ah,gotcha. I don't have that problem because I don't separate kits. I keep them all in the original folder so I don't have those problems.
I must be luck because I've never come across any kit that doesn't have designers name in the filenames. Are there all that many that don't put their names on all files?
Really? I usually hear the not naming excuse from English speaking designers.
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Well there was a thread in scrap talk awhile back where someone asked designers to name their files instead of numbering and the reply back was from a chic in Poland that said her english was to bad to do that. So everyone forgave her.
This is a great example of how ignorant many digi scrappers are:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/scrap-talk-65/look-these-hair-brushes-wendy-made-234232/
Hair brushes have been around since forever and you can get a bunch of really nice ones for free.
I just love how so many in that thread think she's being original and clever.
I just love how so many in that thread think she's being original and clever.
March 24, 2010 1:33 AM
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Being the first to market them directly to the digiscrap consumer, she's been at least clever...
How do you figure the first? Maybe the first to have them noted on DST or advertised like that but hardly the first to sell to digiscrappers. I have some I purchased over 2 years ago at a digiscrap store. I don't know from who or where and I'm not going to go dig out that information right now. I'm just sayin'.
Maybe the first to have them noted on DST or advertised like that but hardly the first to sell to digiscrappers.
That would mean that she is the first to actually market them. If the other designers didn't advertise, then many won't know about them. And it's probably been awhile since anything was released.
However, I think wendyzine has a snarky attitude so I don't buy from her. I'm going on a hunt for the free brushes! I would like to know who the other designers are that offer these.
Someone else made that thread, not Wendyzine, therefore she isn't marketing anything, so the whole frikkin' point is moot.
I can't keep up with all the new products posted just at DST daily, never mind everywhere else advertising can be distributed to the public, so it's awfully presumptuous to think she's the first. Unless you keep some kind of record of every single product advertisement ever put out by every, single designer to date. If that's the case, I stand corrected and I apologize.
Yes, but why aren't people posting these other supposed digital scrapbooking designers that have already created this product? I'm wondering if some people are just talkin' smack?
Someone else made that thread, not Wendyzine, therefore she isn't marketing anything, so the whole frikkin' point is moot.
Oh come on you don't really believe Wendy had nothing to do with that thread being started? Just because she didn't start it herself doesn't mean she wasn't behind it.
And I agree - she is snarky, and arrogant, and clearly believes she is better than the good chunk of the designers there. And yet her stuff is all fake-looking digital crap and actions. Being around a long time doesn't necessarily make you better than new designers.
"Oh come on you don't really believe Wendy had nothing to do with that thread being started?"
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Uhhh....how the hell would I possibly know that unless I was her or the person she supposedly put up to it? I'm not like the rest of y'all. I like facts before just saying shit 'cause it sounds good. I don't own any of her products and don't know her personally or have ever engaged in conversation with her, therefore I have no idea what she would or wouldn't do. I don't particularly care.
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"Yes, but why aren't people posting these other supposed digital scrapbooking designers that have already created this product? I'm wondering if some people are just talkin' smack?"
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I'm done arguing the pointless. Yep, Wendyzine is the very first digital scrapbook designer to ever make them and market them to digiscrappers. Clever little thing she is. I'll just go with it just so we can drop this (completely moronic) subject.
Yep, hair brushes have been around forever. Nothing to amazing and tons of free ones at Deviant Art. Personal use only of course.
As for stores I loving right now:
After 5- Always my favorite, first stop shop.
SBG- Some of the product is seeming a bit out of date and bleh.
Sweet Shoppe- Never been a fan, stuff has too much of an 80's, paper scrapbooking feel for my taste.
Little Dreamer- Love, love, them. But not enough new releases to keep me coming back often.
SP-Always loved their stuff.
O'scraps- Ditto.
As for my new-found stores:
MScraps- Reminds me of a mix of After 5 & Oscraps.
The Daily Digi- Can't live without it now.
And my favorite newest find:
KD & Friends- Love it! Check it out if you haven't.
http://www.kbandfriends.com/store/home.php
^^^^^^^^^
So glad you found Kathryn. She's one of the originals and has been around forever!
Yes, but why aren't people posting these other supposed digital scrapbooking designers that have already created this product? I'm wondering if some people are just talkin' smack?
March 24, 2010 10:37 AM
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All I saw was the mention of ONE designer and maybe the OP who posted that has better things to do than hang around here all day. Give her a chance to reply. Geez.
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Someone else made that thread, not Wendyzine, therefore she isn't marketing anything, so the whole frikkin' point is moot.
Oh come on you don't really believe Wendy had nothing to do with that thread being started? Just because she didn't start it herself doesn't mean she wasn't behind it.
And I agree - she is snarky, and arrogant, and clearly believes she is better than the good chunk of the designers there. And yet her stuff is all fake-looking digital crap and actions. Being around a long time doesn't necessarily make you better than new designers.
March 24, 2010 11:37 AM
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I very much doubt the OP plotted with Wendy to make that post. She is an honest upstanding person and wouldn't stoop to that. You should be ashamed of yourself for even suggesting something like that. And why?? Why would you feel the need to make such an accusation? Bored are you? Go and get a life. You are the sort of person who starts drama just for the sake of it. Now go away and come back when you have something useful to contribute.
Oh come on you don't really believe Wendy had nothing to do with that thread being started? Just because she didn't start it herself doesn't mean she wasn't behind it.
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If you really think that, you really are stupid.
Don't be so cynical. You're projecting your own sneakiness onto someone else.
And you are too trusting if you think otherwise.
Interesting that you only consider what I say useful if its something you agree with. I didn't say this stuff about Wendy randomly.
I agree with what you said about Wendy, I just don't think she and Mikki are in cohoots.
What the heck are you even talking about? Do you really think that we know who "you" are, or that you know which posts belong to which person? Please....
I don't think that there are more than 3 regular posters here (I'm not one of them).
It would be funny to discover that you have just offended a member of your CT, someone that you actually admire... How about that?
That really WOULD be funny, considering that I am strictly a digiscrapper, and have no CT.
That doesn't work. I haven't been on FB since forever, as I really don't get it the whole hype. I'm still getting fan of requests and probably have multiple of them from the same people. It's just tacky.
March 20, 2010 8:43 PM
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Yes, it does. I don't click anything and I don't get reinvites. It keeps coming up in my FB notifications but I don't care about that.
It's so much easier though if you aren't friends with a bunch of random digiscrappers. And if a digiscrapper ever asks, I have no problem saying it's for friends and family that I really know. Why would I want to be friends with someone I barely know? I post stuff about my life on there.
Again, as long as you are friends with people in this business, you'll have to play the game. Start unfriending and your FB life will get easier! Or keep them as friends and keep getting the invites from CTs and designers to join their designer's FB fanpage. You can't really bitch about something that you can do something about. They can't invite you to a fan page unless you are friends.
March 20, 2010 11:52 PM
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Why can't you have 2 facebook accounts? One for family and friends and the other one for business/digiscrap. That's an easy solution.
thanks for the tip on the "ignore" button. i didn't know that! I don't join fan pages, but I have a lot of scrappers and designers on my friend list. I have them in a "scrapbooking" group. When I have extra time, I might browse through the category, but it gets frustrating since so many of them play the stupid facebook games and it fills up my wall! (no, I haven't figured out how to "hide" these. Please feel free to give me that tip as well!)
March 22, 2010 9:57 AM
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You are such a BABY! If you don't want to hear about these designers nor join their pages, just don't be "friends" with them in the first place. What's the point to become friend with someone if you are going to block or hide her? *eyerolls* *eyerolls* *eyerolls*
Not the OP but there are some people who you approve, THEN realize they are so annoying, posting celebrity crap, horoscopes, Farmville, and everything else under the sun.
You can block just those applications though without ignoring the "friend" per say.
I believe there is a button, for example if you see a Mafia War post on your wall, it says something like "hide this application" then you don't get THAT particular game anymore.
Really, I have people contacting from high school that are 10 years older and I didn't even know.
Why would I want to be friends with them now? I feel bad not approving them though.
Facebook is an idiot carnival. NEVER make the mistake of making lots of friends for the sake of game playing. What a mistake that was!! I must have been possessed for a moment or two but thankfully, I was able to retrieve my brain all in-tact and quickly deleted my account. Ugh. Never again.
thanks for the tip on the "ignore" button. i didn't know that! I don't join fan pages, but I have a lot of scrappers and designers on my friend list. I have them in a "scrapbooking" group. When I have extra time, I might browse through the category, but it gets frustrating since so many of them play the stupid facebook games and it fills up my wall! (no, I haven't figured out how to "hide" these. Please feel free to give me that tip as well!)
March 22, 2010 9:57 AM
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You are such a BABY! If you don't want to hear about these designers nor join their pages, just don't be "friends" with them in the first place. What's the point to become friend with someone if you are going to block or hide her? *eyerolls* *eyerolls* *eyerolls*
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Poor thing. Did someone piss in your wheaties this morning? In case you didn't read my post before running your mouth, I said that if I have time, I browse through that category. Actually, since I blocked all those apps (thanks to whomever gave me that help!) I've browsed it each day. It's a lot easier when you don't have a million bejewed and farmvilles to skip past.
In fact, I saw on Melissa Bennett's page that some designer used Melissa's elements in her kits--and the store owner helped the designer in her dishonesty. Does anyone know any more about that? I'd love to know what designer and store.
Why is hazelsmrf so invested in American politics? She is constantly posting in the HT forum telling Americans what their policies should be and she doesn't even live there. I guess it just goes to show that statist liberals want to control everybody-even people who don't live in the same country.
Facebook is an idiot carnival. NEVER make the mistake of making lots of friends for the sake of game playing. What a mistake that was!! I must have been possessed for a moment or two but thankfully, I was able to retrieve my brain all in-tact and quickly deleted my account. Ugh. Never again.
March 25, 2010 2:33 PM
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That's exactly how I feel. I was beginning to think I was the only person not facebooking.
Why is hazelsmrf so invested in American politics? She is constantly posting in the HT forum telling Americans what their policies should be and she doesn't even live there. I guess it just goes to show that statist liberals want to control everybody-even people who don't live in the same country.
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Probably because if anyone talks anything other than American politics they get quickly ignored. It shouldn't be called Hot topics at all, it should be called the American Political Forum. Other from that, she just may like stirring them up.
Well, given the dreadful state of the US economy right now - houses worth less then people owe, high unemployment, a fuckwit for a president, perhaps she may have some good advice. Can someone direct President F Wit to DST? He might learn a thing or two LOL
Am I the only one that thinks the cardboard tube in the back of this kit looks like a toilet roll with tampax in it?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/2382710-post1.html
I think they are supposed to be markers or something.
Anonymous said...
Well, given the dreadful state of the US economy right now - houses worth less then people owe, high unemployment, a fuckwit for a president, perhaps she may have some good advice. Can someone direct President F Wit to DST? He might learn a thing or two LOL
March 25, 2010 5:30 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!! Agree to all cept bout Hazelsmurf or whatever her name is. I think she's just glad to see America goin' the "socialized" route myself :p
I agree with what you said about Wendy, I just don't think she and Mikki are in cohoots.
March 24, 2010 10:04 PM
Quit being so paranoid. Designers promtoe each other all the time. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours."
Besides, Microfart likes to promote lots of other designers.
Oh, take your politics back to HT and blabber with the other foil-hat wearing Fox News sheep and the socialist, marxist America haters. So goddamn childish I just want to vomit.
Republicans hate Democrats, Democrats hate Republicans and no one can seem to do anything except spew out hatred and lies about the other. Yippee yee-fucking-haw.
Am I the only one that thinks the cardboard tube in the back of this kit looks like a toilet roll with tampax in it?
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/2382710-post1.html
I think they are supposed to be markers or something.
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Lol!
a fuckwit for a president,
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And this is different how from previous ones?
I agree with what you said about Wendy, I just don't think she and Mikki are in cohoots.
March 24, 2010 10:04 PM
Quit being so paranoid. Designers promtoe each other all the time. "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours."
Besides, Microfart likes to promote lots of other designers.
March 25, 2010 6:24 PM
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The paranoia in my statement is where exactly?
Facebook is an idiot carnival
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"idiot carnival" - LOL, that expression is hilarious!!
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a fuckwit for a president,
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And this is different how from previous ones?
March 25, 2010 9:48 PM
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They didn't ruin a whole nation in such a record breakingly short time.
Besides, Microfart likes to promote lots of other designers.
March 25, 2010 6:24 PM
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At least she isn't out here namecalling like you. That was uncalled for.
They didn't ruin a whole nation in such a record breakingly short time.
Right. The collapse of the economy didn't actually happen last year, we all imagined it. It was Obama's fault.
They didn't ruin a whole nation in such a record breakingly short time.
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Yes, what great shape America was in on November 3, 2008.
The bobble-heads on the news don't scare me. People like you who make comments like that scare me.
Oh, take your politics back to HT and blabber with the other foil-hat wearing Fox News sheep and the socialist, marxist America haters.
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Sorry you're having such a bad day but who made you the smack blog enforcer? It cracks me up when people try to decide what should and shouldn't be posted here. Since you seem to be into name calling maybe we should refer to you as the SS Smacker, or how about the Brown Shirt Blogger? LOL
Well, given the dreadful state of the US economy right now - houses worth less then people owe, high unemployment, a fuckwit for a president, perhaps she may have some good advice. Can someone direct President F Wit to DST? He might learn a thing or two LOL
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I love our President. I love the new Health Care Bill. We NEED some govt. control because it's been demonstrated that greedy corporations don't do the proper thing unless they are made to. Most Republicans are ignorant, and those that aren't are just selfish. And the elected Republicans officials just obstruct progress and act like sore losers. I think Obama will go down in history as one of the best presidents...E V E R. So there.
No no no don't you SEE?? Corporations are allowed to be greedy, the whole country is built on greed (we like to call it being self sufficient, though, it sounds nicer). It's the American WAY. Self sufficiency, no handouts, reach and and take what you need.
Everyone who is too poor for healthcare has obviously made a series of exceedingly bad choices in their lives (starting with who they chose for parents) and completely deserves their struggles. All they have to do is work harder, stop spending irresponsibly, and they will be able to provide for themselves.
The government should stay out of everyone's business, and allow us all to go on ignoring the 2/3 of our population who have to choose between feeding their kids and giving them dental care - after all, they all deserve what they got, so they don't really count - and we don't want the government telling us that we have to care.
I don't want to give up my quality of healthcare in favor of millions of people getting healthcare. I was much happier knowing I could get an excellent, well-paid doctor even if it means that children die in their bedrooms from diseases that could easily be fixed with $20 worth of antibiotics. They don't matter. I worked for what I have, and I don't really care about them, so I don't want to be forced to help them out.
And also - my privileged daughter is going to a privileged university, and she deserves to be paid extremely well. The new healthcare might mean wage decreases for doctors, which means she ends up living with an upper middle class wage instead of a wealthy wage. This is unacceptable - we have lived privileged lives here for generations, and we should be able to continue to do so. And don't tell me it could save the lives of
millions of people who have little to no chance of getting out of poverty - I have already told you, none of them count, they are all lazy and just want some of the money I work hard for (even though they probably work more hours than me for less money - they are still lazy).
This is the American Way. I am comfortable in it. I don't really care who is and who isn't. I don't want to government forcing me to treat the poor in our country like human beings. I don't care, and I shouldn't be forced to.
And don't even get me started on sweat shops and slavery ... the strong take from the weak. Its been happening since the dawn of time, so it must be right. And I like how it sets me up in life.
March 26, 2010 12:18 AM
WOW 12.18, YOU ROCK!!! Someone who finally gets it!!! Let me guess you aren't American are you?
Health care is a RIGHT not a privilege. Anyone who would want another human being to suffer just so they can keep every penny they have ever earned because they worked hard for it. What about our responsibility to our humanity, our people. What about the people who CAN'T work as much as they want to because they are too ill.
Since when is greed and the ability to be self sufficient more important than compassion?
I live in a country where health care is regulated by the government and while it has it's fault, there is not one single person in this country who is denied health care or treatment for ANY reason. Everyone has access to free health care. Those of us who can afford health insurance have the 'privilege' of choosing their own doctor and hospital, but NO-ONE is refused essential treatment.
The fact that America has collapsed onto itself is evidence that greed doesn't work. There has to be some level of socialism for a society to work.
It amazes me that people have the nerve to blame Obama for the collapse of the American economy? How on earth can someone cause a country to collapse economically in a few short months... America was in recession a long time before Obama became president. The writing was on the wall long before he was sworn in.
Obama is a much needed figure head for the grand ole US of A. Someone with common sense and intelligence. I am not saying he is perfect, no one is, but he is a vast improvement on the previous president who had very little respect from the rest of the world.
Yes, America is a great country, but it is not the only country, there are many other great countries on this planet who do things well. Perhaps, America should look to other countries for solutions to their problems instead of having such a selfish and greedy attitude towards earning money and such a reluctance to contribute to society by making it a better place for EVERYONE.
@ March 26, 2010 12:18 AM
Be warned. Things change. Someday there will be someone who will treat you like you have treated others. But don't beg for mercy then.
Now I seem to understand why the whole planet hates USA...
Wow, people need to learn what sarcasm is.
Great post, 12:18.
12:18 and 4:38, you both rock!
Did anyone go to the DST chat last night with the new owner?
Regarding the new health care bill; now that the bill has been safely passed and signed into law, the mainstream press is gradually revealing the scores of delightful provisions tucked away in the 2,700 page abomination: job-killing taxes on businesses, innovation-killing taxes on medical products, suffocating regulations on individual freedoms, wealth-sapping taxes on the middle-class, unprecedented intrusions on personal privacy, unconstitutional mandates on individuals, racially discriminatory preferences for favored groups, a Ponzi-scheme-on-steroids financing mechanism, and spending on a galactic, incomprehensible scale.
And that's just the first 600 pages. But somewhere in this heaping pile of manure there just has to be a pony.
You did all see that both Caterpillar and Deere had to adjust their earnings projections downward this week because of the bill didn't you? They will shortly be moving employment off-shore because it is just too expensive to hire American workers. Off course I'm sure the left will be quick to call them "greedy corporations." So be it, we will still be left with NO JOBS!! Those who support this bill need to take some basic economic classes-you are all idiots!!
I'm more interested in the bitchfest between Bennet and Bartoloni on Bennets wall - much more interesting than the pirate comment.
Nothin new about Ms Bennett's position. It's the same 'La La La La I can't hear you, if you disagree with me take it somewhere else, the fact that you disagree with me means you're denigrating my right to have an opinion' response the Hot Topics forum has been full of for months. I believe it's called 'Republicanism', AKA Freedom of Speech = Freedom of Agreeing With Me.
The new health-care bill has made the cost of employees more expensive and taken away capital that could otherwise have been used to hire workers:
Farm-equipment manufacturer John Deere "said it expects its expenses to rise by around $150 million on an after-tax basis, mainly in the second quarter, as a result of the legislation."
Verizon "told employees in an email Tuesday that Verizon's costs will go up in the near term, pinpointing a tax-subsidy reduction for retiree health benefits."
Heavy-equipment manufacturer Caterpillar "said that its first-quarter earnings will be hit with a $100 million after-tax charge under tax law changes attached to the new health care reform legislation."
AK Steele Holding Corp., "the third largest U.S. steelmaker by sales, said it will record a non-cash charge of about $31 million resulting from the health-care overhaul signed into law by President Barack Obama. The charge will be recorded in the first quarter of 2010."
Valero Energy "will take a $15 million to $20 million charge to second-quarter earnings for the same reason."
Medical-device maker Medtronic "warned that new taxes on its products could force it to lay off a thousand workers."
If you want to reduce unemployment, stop passing legislation that kicks the snot out of employers. Way to go Obama!! The latest unemployment numbers in Nevada: 13.2 percent — the second highest in the country. In January, it was 13 percent. In February of 2009, it was 10.1 percent. Anyone want to guess what it will be in December?
I hadn't seen that argument between Melissa and Susan. Thanks for the heads up. My goodness. It looks like that 'friendship' is in the crapper. (my guess is that there's more going on between them than the healthcare debate.)
Are only MB's friends allowed to see? Would someone copy and paste for the rest of us?
Such negativity, doom and gloom in the room. Yay, hooray, The HT bitches are here.
I love our President. I love the new Health Care Bill. We NEED some govt. control because it's been demonstrated that greedy corporations don't do the proper thing unless they are made to. Most Republicans are ignorant, and those that aren't are just selfish. And the elected Republicans officials just obstruct progress and act like sore losers. I think Obama will go down in history as one of the best presidents...E V E R. So there.
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You need to go back to school dear heart! The constitution was designed to LIMIT government power so as to insure a maximum amount of PERSONAL LIBERTY! Obama is shredding that very same constitution. For example, just today the president is going to order banks to cut mortgage payments for the jobless. Just where in the enumerated powers of the president listed in the constitution does it state that the president gets the power to order banks to write off loans? All hail King Obama!!
For example, just today the president is going to order banks to cut mortgage payments for the jobless.
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LOL Well, you can say it however you like. Run in fear, everyone! Some people might not lose their homes to forclosure! God, the horror of it all.
An article by the Associated Press:
I snipped it. The whole article is here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36050868/ns/business-real_estate/
"The multifaceted effort will allow people who owe more on their mortgages than their properties are worth to get new loans backed by the Federal Housing Administration, a government agency that insures home loans against default."
"The plan would also enable the borrowers' existing mortgage companies to receive incentives to lower their principal balances.
To be eligible for the FHA refinancing program, borrowers who owe more than the value of their homes, known as being "under water," must not have fallen behind on their existing mortgage payments.
Separately, the program also would reduce monthly payments for unemployed homeowners for up to six months. (emphasis mine)
The administration cautioned that the plan isn't intended to stop all foreclosures or assist all troubled homeowners...[snip]"
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If you want to call that "ordering the banks to cut mortgages for the jobless," well, whatever helps you sleep at night.
With his economic policies on housing failing for the past year, Barack Obama has decided to double down on postponing the inevitable. In order to stem the coming tide on foreclosures, Obama has come up with the notion that banks should simply stop getting paid for their loans, at least for those people out of work. This child-like solution will mean that Obama will subsidize even more mortgage payments.
In other words, those who are unemployed now will have further incentive to stay on unemployment, although in this tough job market, incentives really aren’t that big of a problem. The $50 billion may not be new, but if it hasn’t been spent yet, it’s still money going out the door to subsidize other people’s mortgages instead of being used to pay down the nation’s debt. In a tough economy, responsible homeowners can rightly wonder why they will wind up being punished economically for making the right decisions.
If I had not been so responsible, Obama’s plan (I still cannot quite believe it) would have given me (via my bank) YOUR money, humble tax-payer, as a gift to reduce my mortgage, and I would have gained to the tune of many thousands of dollars.
However, because I did the responsible thing, MY tax money will be going to help those who were in exactly the same situation as I, but weren’t responsible enough to live within their means and meet their obligations, perhaps because they bought a bigger car than they needed, were paying interest on credit cards they shouldn’t have been using, or whatever…
How dare the government do this? How dare they? This isn’t capitalism. It isn’t even communism. It is some upside down, messed-up mediocracy. …
So now, not only will I be subsidizing the procreative choices of others that I, out of my own sense of basic responsibility (Thanks Mom) will not make, but also, my wealth will be transferred directly to a subset of them for the particular purpose of bailing them out of exactly the same situation that I had to bail myself out of – and was only able to do so precisely because I have been so careful to live within my means and save what I could for an emergency.
Obama’s supporters will give two answers to this argument. One, they will say that we need to provide a safety net to those less fortunate, and that the action plan will rescue the housing values of all Americans by limiting foreclosures. The second argument is false, since we haven’t been limiting foreclosures at all; we’ve merely been postponing them, and not doing that terribly well, either. The $50 billion will get spent and most of the homes that benefit it will still get seized, which is about the clearest example of throwing good money after bad one can get.
As far as the “less fortunate” and safety nets argument goes, most Americans agree on providing basic safety-net programs for the poor and disabled. We don’t agree on providing them for people who took risks and chose poorly in doing so. It creates a moral hazard where bad decisions come with no consequences, and therefore more bad decisions follow. Better to let people fail and remain free to learn from their mistakes than to cocoon them from the consequences of their actions. Instead, Obama proposes to do exactly what got us into this problem — floating money on even more debt to artificially inflate the housing markets for just a little while longer.
Call it bad money after bad.
I would like to know exactly who is going to pay for Obama's decisions? In case you haven't noticed-the Federal Government IS BANKRUPT!!!!! $12,670,895,780,689.20 is the exact amount of outstanding public debt as of Tuesday, according to the latest available figures from the U.S. Treasury. By the time you read this, that figure will have increased by $17,338,324,977.
The share of total debt federal debt for each American household is $120,125. That's up $164 from Tuesday. It's up $15,445 from last year. It will keep going up until something is done to stop the runaway spending by Congress and the Obama administration.
According to the Social Security and Medicare trustees, Social Security has made $17.5 trillion in future promises that it has no money to fulfill. Add to this amount Medicare's unfunded liabilities of $89.3 trillion, and the grand total is $106.8 trillion. That means each household's share of current and future debt is a staggering $1.1 million. Just keep whistling past the graveyard; this mountain of federal debt is all going to come crashing down sooner rather than later.
OMG! Can't you blather about this shit in the HT forum? Yes, people are free to post whatever they want here, blah blah blah. But most of us come here to get AWAY from this kind of talk!
Get out of here with your political bullshit. Yes it's a very relevant and debatable topic but do you really think we are that interested in hearing your super intelligent well thought out debate here? No. Thanks anyway.
OK, now someone please "ctrl V" the Melissa Bennett facebook argument? That's the kind of smack I'm interested in. haha
However, because I did the responsible thing, MY tax money will be going to help those who were in exactly the same situation as I, but weren’t responsible enough to live within their means and meet their obligations, perhaps because they bought a bigger car than they needed, were paying interest on credit cards they shouldn't have been using, or whatever…
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You are such a fucking asshole. For the whole comment, not just that pile of shit paragraph I used.
Last time I checked, I was a tax-paying American, too.
You are such a fucking asshole. For the whole comment, not just that pile of shit paragraph I used.
Last time I checked, I was a tax-paying American, too.
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Your intelligent, well-thought response just slays me. I tremble at the wit and power of your intellect-NOT.
No. I was calling you a fucking asshole because that's what you are. No need to try and read more into it than that.
No. I was calling you a fucking asshole because that's what you are. No need to try and read more into it than that.
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I bet it just kills you that your insult just makes me laugh. Have a GREAT day!
Be sure to kick some disabled veterans on your way home from work today.
Asshole.
AT&T Inc. said it plans to take a non-cash charge of about $1 billion in the first quarter following the passage of the health-care reform bill earlier this week, according to a filing submitted by the company Friday. The telecommunication giant will also evaluate changes to its health care benefits for employees and retirees.
Guess what idiot-this health care bill is going to cost people jobs and dump retirees into the medicare system. Why don't you go kick some old lady or a newly unemployed worker down the street on your way home today. You don't even know the meaning of the word compassion.
The health care overhaul will cost U.S. companies billions and make them more likely to drop prescription drug coverage for retirees because of a change in how the government subsidizes those benefits.
In the first two days after the law was signed, three major companies — Deere & Co., Caterpillar Inc. and Valero Energy — said they expect to take a total hit of $265 million to account for smaller tax deductions in the future.
With more than 3,500 companies now getting the tax break as an incentive to keep providing coverage, others are almost certain to announce similar cost increases in the weeks ahead as they sort out the impact of the change.
Figuring out what it will mean for retirees will take longer, but analysts said as many as 2 million could lose the prescription drug coverage provided by their former employers, leaving them to enroll in Medicare’s program.
This is what liberal good government and compassion looks like:not only will the expected tax revenues never appear, adding even MORE debt to the federal budget, but now we will have to spend a lot more money covering prescriptions out of public funds. The seniors in these programs will suffer most of all, as the Part D coverage is vastly inferior to the private plans offered by businesses in the private sector.
But wait, I thought Obama said if you liked your current coverage you would get to keep your current coverage. What are the Obama zombies going to do when this whole thing crashes and burns?
I know you're talking, but all I hear is blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Take it to HT where the people actually care!
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Guess what? All retires go on medicare program - if they want their SS benefits.
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